A Tank So Bad It Had To Be Removed
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2022
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To say that the Maus heavy tank has had a tumultuous history in War Thunder would be a massive understatement. A fan favorite in the German tank tech tree, the Maus was removed a few years ago along with tanks like the Panther II and Coelian. Unlike these tanks, the Maus was not removed for being fictional. A working Maus prototype was complete. No, the Maus was removed because it was simply too hard to balance. That's what Gaijin says, at least. I personally think the Maus is fine as it is, it's just incredibly boring to play due to how slow it is.
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Please play the Doom Turtle next!
The Maus and Doom Turtle are the most enjoyable vehicles ingame, you yourself seem to love them. That sweet sweet 5-12 hp/ton.
Since we're talking about the Maus, why not make a video about ideas how Snail could fix the "hard to balance" issue (that imo they have created themselves)?
I have one such idea - to split the matchmaker in two: one for WW2 vehicles and one for post-war ones.
Or rather those using post-war technologies such as two plain stabilizers, HEAT-FS, thermals or laser rangefinders. That's to avoid the whole Swedish and half of the French trees fighting T-55s, Leopardz and Pattons.
What about the panther 2. That is a fun tank since only one with good reverse speed.
Whenever i play Britain and use the AVRE the maus has a tendency to not exist afterwards
Every time I run into this thing in my T-10A (trying to grind out Russian ground forces for fun) and maybe it’s just me but I can’t pen them and they can’t pen me from the front so it’s honestly just becomes “who’s teammates can help them first”
you can pen him with D round if you hug his side
@@gopnik8855 thx
Have you tried shooting the turret cheeks?
@@hazegrayunderway8695
You need 230mm of flat pen to pen the turret cheeks, the 100mm, the 122mm can't, unless it's the t10m's 122
You can ammo rack the back of the Maus' turret if it's facing you and you're relatively close since it's flat, or you can shoot low in its hulls sides since it can pen them but it's hit or miss since it can get eaten by fuel tanks often
My worst memory with maus is when they allowed players to research it for few days but made wrecks stay whole battle so there was horrendous amount of maus-es in matches to that point where maps like Poland became unplayable because of burning mauses blocking every street
GERMAN ENGINEERING IS THE WORLDS FINEST
That's hilarious, I would have loved to see it
The wunderwafen came through on that day
I don't know what you're talking about, that was tons of fun. Especially when nobody can get on the points fast enough because everyone is so slow
Mice, not mauses
"the maus cant be balanced"
*moves Leopard 1 to 7.3*
Because germany obviously suffers
/s
how is that relevant and how does that even matter? The leopard would perform the same either way
@@bro3217 it just shows gaijins incompetence and that they dont know their own game
@@AllMightyKingBowser no it shows their love towards we the german mains
@@bro3217 well, switch leopard and Maus br lol
400mm heat in 7.7, 128mm APCBC in 7.3
Spook: "likes light tanks"
Everyone: "Suffer!"
i hate light tanks they are so annoying. Espicially the lekpz. m24 chaffees are fine tho.
@@haroldotrotter9148 light tanks are awesome. Play a few games in a bmp and you’ll have a great time, especially if the enemy team has a lot of leopard players. Although the BMP2M can be a bullshit enemy sometimes, I’ve had a 3BM15 APFSDS bounce off the front plate of that thing.
“Just play the undertiered vehicles in the most overpowered tree and you’ll have a great time” - translation.
@@Pantsinabucket ive had 3bm42 bounce off a hstvl point blank
@@haroldotrotter9148 the lekpz is my favorite bulldog. That heat shell is nice to have
I used to be so afraid of meeting the Maus way back in the day, after all the talk of how stronk it was with its armour - nowadays I see a Maus and say “Oh…it’s a Maus.”
I then proceed to lob a heat shell towards it.
As you should
It’s like seeing a rare animal, your like “oh that’s cool” and go on with your day
@@bubla2659 yeah but he’s murdering those rare animals, he’s a murderer, a psycho, a complete lunatic.
@@arandomcommenter412 A virtual animal. Seems ok to me
@@arandomcommenter412 I mean the Maus is technically endangered
I think my greatest achievement in this game is getting the first strike medal in this thing.
Did your team fall asleep or something??
Nothing beats Raider medal with a T95 on Lakeville in other tank game when -CAS- Artillery was fuck ass turbo busted instead of just plain busted.
The thought of trying to pen a maus with the American 76 sent a shiver down my spine.
The nerfs really killed them. Can't even face pen a Tiger II with your HVAP anymore.
I legitimately can't stand playing the Maus. It's frustrating, I feel like I'm in a store stuck behind someone walking slowly and I can't get past. However, despite all the constant uptiers, it's still one of my best stat vehicles. It's really sad that it's been taken out of the game since a lot of folks are desperate to play this iconic meme tank.
Just add it back, honestly.
Also, there are WAY worse vehicles in the game that still exist and people just chose not to play them much. Why has the Maus gotta be different?
@@OddBawZ because germany suffers
;)
As a blind german main i agree and the tiger should be moved to B.R 1.0
Can we have the Maus back, and also get the TOG II for the memes?
Waiting the France Get The Fcm 2C 155
The armour still works when you angle it, played it today and got a positive k/d but it was just so painfully boring because of the speed. Still could drive into the middle of a map and tank loads of hits while waiting for my teammates to kill the enemies. Killed some amx13 with the 75 HEAT at one point :P. Just dont spawn it unless the spawnpoint cost is 140/160 meaning a downtier.
Argh, k/d ratios are always positive!
You can't kill -1 tanks, neither can you die -1 times.
They can be greater or smaller than 1, but negative isn't a thing.
@@kleebl00d84 I imagine if you don't kill anything and die your k/d goes negative
@@kleebl00d84 under 1.0 is a negative KD, for example 0.9 would mean you've killed nine people but died ten times, that's what a negative KD is
@@kleebl00d84 its just a term used to tell when people have more or equal kills/deaths in a vehicle, calm down
@@kleebl00d84 hahaha so technically true!
It's bad till it's 15 minutes into the round, your on your second to last spawn, teams are exhausted
And it sets up shop on the cap point
Yeah unless half the enemy team takes CAS as their second spawn and just nuke you into oblivion
Until it gets immediately bombed and they rage quit because they spent the last 15mins just driving to the cap.
The game would be almost over before your 3rd spawn as Maus. You'd get wacked by CAS on the way to the point or ambushed by bmps and ptl02s hiding in the bushes.
"maus to 6.7" is legitimately the most wehraboo thing i've ever heard
And only about 1 out every 100 people who ask for it to be downtiered ever say that.
Spookstin is blowing the proportions of hiw many people say such things and exaggerate it a lot despite only a minority having such views and the majority just wanting it to be moved to 7.3.
maus in 7,3 will be good and im a american main player
It's literally my first time hearing someone says the Maus needs to be 6.7.
@@cqpp it shouldn't be 7.3 either. It should stay at 7.7
@@Gary_The_Metro You could say that 7.3 is a good fit, there are plenty of tanks armed with heat, and many of the Maus’ rival heavy tanks full caliber rounds are capable of penetrating it on the side, or the turret cheeks. Also there’s always the fact that 6/10 deaths in the Maus for me are to aircraft ordinance. But I do think it’s perfectly capable at 7.7 and 7.3 is a little excessive
I actually have WAAAAY too much fun playing the Maus. Yeah, it's slow and will take you forever to get to the front, but a well-played Maus will either decimate the enemy team, or be used as a shell sponge and aggro the entire enemy team allowing your team to clear them out. And if you get frustrated because you have to repair all day, just use the HEAT shell to take out tracks and cannon barrels from the enemy and force them to sit forever and repair
Hmm, I'll keep that in mind for the games I'm not destroyed by helis, bombs or heat snipers
@@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS Unfortunately that happens to every tank in the game. Helicopters were a huge mistake, being killed by CAS is just the most frustrating thing in the game and HEAT kills everyone, but the Maus due to the huge spacing of the crew requires at LEAST 3 pens by heat, darts or apds to die.
I've also noticed something interesting with the Maus: it feels like you only die to CAS because you actually do, everything else takes ages to kill you so its usually planes and helis who either get the final shot or some of the only ones who get to kill you instantly
Mutual suffering!
I do think 7.3 is a reasonable place for it, the problem with it's current BR is that it constantly faces 8.7 MBTs that can pen it at almost any angle and which it has a hard time frontally penetrating. Most tanks in the 7.3 range can either pen it frontally or from the side. Putting it at a BR where it's armor is actually a big advantage wouldn't be a big deal because the armor is the only thing the Maus has going for it. It's gun is okay, but it has an abysmal reload and moves like an obese brick.
“It’s unfair that some tanks can pen the Maus anywhere in an uptier, so it should be moved down to a BR where it’s unkillable for 90% of vehicles and can pen literally anything anywhere”
@@Dragono_ shooting main cannon goes hard af. Also when i die to maus i aint even mad, maus is awesome.
I member my meathead slugfests against the Maus in my IS-4M when we were the only top dogs.
Good times.
Then the M103 nation attacked and the age of HEAT-FS had begun.
I feel that these tanks should just be put outside of the "tech tree" but still be able to be researched
They literally are right now, i havent yet finished researcjing the maus or 105 tiger
@@SomeKidsAtHomes he means PERMANENTLY, u need to have rank 5 and put 1 RP into the Maus in November when it comes to get it forever
Yeah I remember when they announced they were removing it and all I thought was "why not just put to the side as a vehicle available at rank V or just folder it with the "new" M48. Just make it a side vehicle like the denomination of T-54s. They aren't necessary to get but you can if you want to. Then I remembered I was talking about the snail and that they'll probably use it as some sort of hidden tank available on occasion like the KV-2 with the 107mm
I don’t have the Tiger 105 :0 looks cool tho
I will say, the M4A3 can indeed pen a maus. On a very very small part on the top that gives access to starting a fire. This requires 2 m4a3s and a very specific ledge that lets you go above the maus
Remember Spook, don't conflate your skill with that of the playerbase. You have ten thousand hours and know the tactics and anatomy of every tank, while most players are casual and don't have the same skill level.
Personally I think the way Gaijin handled the Maus is fine. It come around every year as a super easy and forgiving "event". Anyone who wants a Maus can realistically get one and the allure of the event and its rarity brings people into the game.
it's easy to get at least k/d of 2 with maus just as a casual player
They could have left it in the tech tree without it blocking another tank (like a squad vehicle) there are a lot of things that are not balanced, the T28/T95 comes to mind, or the BMP4 or the premium KA, heavy bombers have awful repair SL, so on.
Gaijyn could not explain to the average germany mains thta skill is a thing
@@nahuelleandroarroyo how is the bmd 4 unbalanced? It's less armored than the bmp3. Sure it has a 4sex reload for 4 atgms then HE. But other than that, it's a light tank.
@@nahuelleandroarroyo lmfao what how are the t95 and t28 unbalanced. What are you smoking?
@@Korean_Crayon arguing armour bad on a lighttank is dumb. It's a light tank, if you're taking many hits you're already doing it wrong.
I’ve had very successful flanking maneuvers in the Maus. It’s always funny to see even light tanks completely oblivious to a 200ton super heavy tank on their flank.
* A tank so good it had to be removed to protect every other nation 😎
I don't think that the Sabot APHE was for the FlaK. They experimented with sabot HE for FlaK but they built sabot AP for all large calibers, with 105/75 APHE actually being introduced for the 105mm Light Field Howitzer. There was also going to be 150/88mm AP for the Heavy Howitzers but the 128/88 AP was probably meant for 128mm AT guns, since they realized that muzzle velocity is great for being able to hit targets.
Shattering of the shell was probably only a real problem due to the weird German penetration criteria that requires intact shell to penetrate, only to be detonated by explosive filler, which only sounded good in theory, as APHE fuzes rarely worked and a broken shell penetrating the armor was lethal as it is.
I am one of the people that tried for years in war thunders forum to get it into the game (theres a thread with 100+ pages about the maus were we sweated our asses off talking and promoting changes about the vehicle to gaijin) and there are real documents about it (the apheds) and it was intended to be fired at tanks.They didnt really care to produce it because the standard 128 shell was already big and strong enough to overkill anything the 128 would face
Easiest way to balance the maus in my opinion is to keep it at 7.7 but prevent it from being uptiered, meaning the maus will never face anything 8.0 and above. At 7.7 there are plenty of vehicles that can face it.
Its kinda sad that the new players cant experience Tiger 10,5 and Panther 2, damn those vehicles are so good, Maus is just a iconic tank, but the rest of the removed vehicles is very good, at least i like playing them much more than other stuff around 6.7, great lineup.
Dont forget the coelian!
Subtle reminder the Tiger 105 and Panther 2 L/71 should not even be in the game.
I have the Panther 2. Its good for armor but the night vision on top makes hiding difficult
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 nor should be that stupid Russian battleship
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 Why not? Because of its inaccurate portrayal? Then what will the snail do to fill up the large gaps in Rank III and IV tech tree?
Has Gaijin ever thought about a limited matchmaking system for vehicles like the Maus? They could limit its uptiering to 8.3 or 8.0 while it stays at 7.7. Of course, if you have other 7.7 vehicles in the same lineup you can still face 8.7. You would have to use 7.3 or lower vehicles for the rest of the lineup.
That system maybe cool to work with other Rank III german
For Tiger players not longer to rant with cold war
@@02suraditpengsaeng41 boo hoo
I love this thing, I nabbed it just before it was removed and hell gave it a talisman and it got me through a lot of that part of the tree. My only gripe is that it’s the only tank they add back for the birthday event. I never got the panther 2 and I want it so bad, same with the panther AA. But every year they add back the maus and it’s just an event a lot of us get nothing out of, especially if you got it in a previous year. As for the BR, I think 7.7 is fine. If it HAD to move maybe 7.3 and it would just go along with all the other vehicles in that German lineup (as if it wasn’t strong enough already) :/
I think a good compromise for the maus and other similar super heavy tanks would be to disallow them from full uptiers or downtiers. I think with that the maus could reasonably be put at 7.3/7.0
I think seeing a video about the AMD-1 would be really neat, maybe talking about how useless the APS feels at 8.7 when most of the missile carriers are half a br up to a BR higher in terms of how common it is to see & face them. I feel like it suffers in some aspect because it's selling point is the Hardkill APS & LRF; I have been using it extensively myself but I'd like to see what you think of it.
The M103. The funky armor layout combined with the thick armor it has actually allows it to take hits and give them back with that 120mm
Go Breda 501 (I think it's 501), it's light, it is fast, its cannon has high pen and damage output, it's just great (shell with 520 g of TNT is better than 180 g, more pen is just not needed)
I loved the Breda, grinded nearly everything on the next tier with it.
Eh, you realistically don't need more than 100 grams as it usually one-shots most enemies anyway, so the extra pen is nice for some extra insurance that you'll punch through the armor 99% of the time.
no, it's the contrary, more than 180g is not needed, because it is going to be a one-shot already, but more pen is always better
You don't need more than 100 grams of TNT if you successfully pen, indeed, but if war thunder is shiting you and you did not pen something you should have, you can now overpressure it with power of 520 grams of TNT. It's also fun, when I shoot little short on light vehicle and the explosion of the shell knocks it out. So... 520g
the 520g shell will one shot 95% of tanks you get a turret/hull pen on, even through the engine and has a much higher chance of an ammo rack (say downward fragmentation in a panther/T34 turret) than the 120g. The extra pen only makes a difference on range, which you should not be operating at generally. The breda is fast and agile, you will be shooting at sides and backs often, making the extra pen pointless, but the extra bang SO useful.
All the people that say that the Maus is bad have some serious Skill issues, i have like a 4/1 kill ratio, i unlocked it the 5th November
4:40, the one thing many underestimated when they suggests putting in more doomsday heavies(ie, the T26 family): royal air force bomber command
props to that 906 trying to do a water crossing in the open
The Maus is actually very effective. When you play as the roadblock distraction and use your survivability, you can certainly carry games. Additionally, it’s recently added round is more effective - particularly at range - than apfsds. 75mm is wonderful utility, and many thing at its BR can be penned by 100mm heat. It’s a great tank when played correctly
Ah yes, the mighty german engineering - design a vehicle so useless and unreliable that it becomes a joke
Don't mind me. Just replying to this so I can see all the butt-hurt armchair historians tell you how you're wrong, and how this tank could take over the world 'cause bigger always equals better.
Just like the Yamato that is currently the world's biggest man-made reef.
still big doe
@@Ey_SmoKrac just like your name!
You fool. Everyone knows german engineering is the world's finest.
@@idiom2805 lol then brace yourself because all the wehraboos are coming (RIP ur notifications)
Great video. One thing can you play the Ikv 103 (Sweden) I feel like it needs some attention considering it has a 400mm pen round at 4.7 and is constantly getting down tiered.
Any way keep up the good work.
My first interaction with a Maus was killing it with a bt-7. It was the player's first match and I bounced a shell into his engine and lit him on fire. It was hilarious but I feel bad for a man that got Gajin'ed before he unlocked fire extinguishers.
got killed like that when grinding for fpe may be it was you.
I personally love the Maus and the Black Prince. These slow heavy tanks offer a unique style of gameplay, and one that I personally quite enjoy.
* When germany has a good tank *
Gaijin: DELETE IT RIGHT NOW
Germany has way way way too many op tanks, and has the best vehicle in the game right now (pz IVg)
@@indianfiddler no way you said pz 4 G is best vehicle in the game
@@connivingkhajiit for its br it is by miles
@@indianfiddler its certainly very good. But, normalized by BR, is it the best? surely not. A few i immediately think of that are better: Object 279, 2S38, IS6, KV-1E/B
@connivingkhajiit the pz 4g is better than all u named as at 3.3 there is very little that can frontal pen it if u angle and the gun is amazing up to 5.0. Even if a full uptier the pz4g is better than almost any other 4.3 such. And on a downtier... its fighting things like starts and crusaders which the 4g can delete from about 2 kilometres away. The is6 has a slow reload and is slow, the 2s38 will die to absolutely anything if not spotted first and can struggle to frontally pen some things, the kv1e has an awful main gun and is slow. And the object 279 lacks speed, has an average gun and can be frontally penned by anything at its br. The pz 4 g has almost none of these problems.
I remember being a sped and rushing to get this when it first came out. I quit using it after the insane repair costs sunk in on me. Your main adversary back then was the T-54 and the ZSU-57
Play the Ho-RI production, fantastic frontal armour, great acceleration with very strong engine, decent 105mm canon and amazing turn time, it’s engine surrounded by 8mm of armour on each side give it amazing spall protection and barely anyone knows where to shoot it so over angling can be a valid strategy to provoke the enemy’s first shot, the only thing that kinda sucks is it’s technically an open top (the hatch on the top of your tank needs to open to depress) one of my favourite tanks
I like the Maus personally. It's pretty solid and I enjoy the coaxial cannon.
The maus is unusable by the 10k+ repair cost and 220 sl for the good ammo, 110 sl for the ok one. It also only has a 140% sl multiplier, less then the tiger II(p). It is just too expensive.
140% SL multiplier because you get SL for tanking shots.
You only get money for the first hit. After that you no longer get anything
you would unironically get more money from tanking shells than killing enemies most of the time
I hope to see it return, sure I don't like it all that much but at the same time I adore it.
I'd like to request any/all of the tanks that have the whistling engine, I'm unsure how many there are specifically but I figure a vague ball park can lead to some interesting choices and/or tidbits regarding your choice.
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I dont think its actually *that bad
I mean, i hate it. I hate what its suposed to be. I hate what it is. The entire thing was a mistake. The worst the wunderwaffe has to offer.
But quite honestly, it o v e r preforms in wt, relative to what it was.
make it so the transmission slowly turns red over 5 minutes on driving for enhanced experience
(joke.)
@@phial7616 if that was the case for all tanks, if you tried to drive a Ferdinand/Elefant up a hill you would just catch on fire lol
maus was great in testing too : ) it was just too big and slow and heavy to be usefull . in real life , also too expensive
@@oliverthecool8329 mozdok Hill C and you just start hearing "fire!! in the engine compartment" immedeatly as you crest the hill, leaving you exposed and vulnerable
@@TheJimyyy superheavy tanks have a future, they just didnt go far enough in research
Maus could be 7... The IS6 and IS3 is 7.0 and most tanks without heat suffer vs them.
The IS6 and IS3 never suffered a moment of their existence lol
its so hard to make videos with such slow vehicles because of the ammount of cutting to get any kind of action, but once you drive into the middle of the map you will have the whole enemy team shooting you so much action
this hit on that wheelyboi without damage: e-sport ready
I don't really play the MAUS but I just love having it. It's my favorite just because it's so absurdly huge. Gotta love German engineering.
Just face it, the Maus isn't trash and it never will be, yall just mad it has more armor, no ammount of information will convince me otherwise.
Maus are always fun to take out with the Type 60 ATM. The massive missiles can fairly easily one hit kill them if you hit the turret anywhere due to how much explosive filler they have. They are also slow and big enough to easily hit even at very long range.
"armor is only there as a last resort" well funny about that when i play my Maus my armor is my main weapon but at the same time i have become very scary at angling it
play the centurion mk1
it is the first MBT after all, is armor is pretty much a panther and if u angle while u reload ur very well protected, APDS slaps even king tigers and the reload ain't too bad, though ammo rack is only 5
(only British vehicle with reverse gear)
The 5.3-6.0-7.3 uk lineup has to be one of my favorites. Shame the BR on the centurion forces you onto 7.0 now as opposed to 6.7 on full uptier if you decide to take it on the lineup
@@pukekissing 7.0 uptiers are nonexistant, and 6.7 is completly viable with your APDS, plus the centurion is so much better than the challenger or comet its worth the risk of a potential 7.0
Some more top tier SPAA please!! It’s just satisfying to see helicopters falling out off the sky.
👍. I got this in the latest grind. Luckily it didn’t bug like the strumtiger grind did. It’s balanced around 7.3. With the hi pen and heat at that br. Plus it’s ridiculous slow. Plus the long reload.
If you could, try messing about in some low-Tier to Mid tier Japanese tanks. The CHI-HA LG is a fun open-top TD. The CHI-HA Short Gun has a Navel gun attached to it, and only uses HEAT. The RO-GO, a multi-turreted, monster that bears the Title of being the ONLY heavy tank Japan has produced for themselves, and of course, the HO-RO, or rather the 152mm howitzer Derp Turtle. Those tanks are fun to play when balanced correctly, and Japan has lots of solid light tanks to boot! Love the vids, so keep up the good work!!
A tank so good it counted as food... For other tanks... And planes...
Guilty pleasure every time I kill a MAUS with an ATGM.
I mean its br was already pretty balanced imo. We are talking about a tank prototype dead end from WW2 after all. Im surprised that it can drive at all. And its not like every 6.7 heavy doesnt have the same weaknesses. BR decompression could help a lot with that
Hey a suggestion, you could make a series about a good tactis or good spots for every/some maps in War Thunder
I think that the M4A3 can actually pen the side of the Maus flat on with APCR but thats about it apart from the back.
I remember several times when I saw a Maus in matches, and started bullying them with my BMP-1.
They literally can't do anything against me and my team.
I have committed the sin of T-54 future tech YEET shell bullying.
Even magic bonked a couple on Kursk with the balans-57-2.
And the Maus is one mistake away from seeing T-64 (fixed edition) on top of the later cold war T-55/62's it can easily run into normally LMFAO. Subtle reminder the T-54 (1947) w/future APDS and BMP-1P 1974 are lower BR than the Maus XD)))
You should try the type 75 sph. It’s such a meme now.
The MAUS is the tank i go to if i want some fun. It's avalible to research every november around the anniversary if your german tree is far enough along. It's the same tier as the E-100.
I have to ask this but what sound mod do you use it sounds amazing
"We removed it because we can't balance it"
..Leaves it in the game only for those who got it.
Okay, sure.
I think the idea was more like they don't want it as a permanent addition to the game's tech tree anymore I guess; if any memelord or wehraboo wants the Maus, go ahead, but you dont have to slog through it to grind the next tank in line
"it can't be balanced tovarish"
No, gaijin just didn't want to get its head out of its own ass to decompress the BR's that actually make it viable
because when the Object 120 exists with a railgun at a step below, and the T-55AM and its derivatives exist less than 1 BR jump away from it, it cannot do hardly anything
"removing vehicles, because actual change is for chumps" - Gaijin, probably
Even with decompression, that will dominate downtiers and suffer in uptiers.
The M-56 Scorpian is a nice little niche tank. It's built for sniping because it's small, mobile, and has good gun depression. Best time I've had with it is when I got an open field kind of map and I set on a flank near the middle. Bushes and sitting there while the enemy tried to cope with moving past their side of the map was alright. Only complaint is I didn't have enough ammo and I had to essentially range my shots myself because US Range finders can't cope beyond 950m...
at 7.7 i had games were nobody could pen the mause so every body just shot at the gun for the hole game.
Even with HEAT and ATGM's, its difficult to properly pen and destroy this thing.
Germany mains just play braindead. Thats litterally it.
These morons rely on the armour too much and act surprised when they get instantly targetted.
Its not a great tank, but its not unplayable.
Great another braindead and toxic take.
You clearly haven't played the game enough if you still divide things into the "German mains vs this mains camp".
What's next eugenics in war thunder? Some countries playerbases are "superior" while others are inferior sub-human. That is getting dangerously close to nazi teachings and yet most people in the sub are quick to generalise a whole player group to feel superior in their role-playing tank videogame.
If you can't rely on its armor then remind me, what's it supposed to do again?
Its a tank whose pace is charitably described as "glacial" and is large enough to qualify for its own postal code. No amount of bushes and camo is hiding that thing. Its armor is all it has. Especially when it has an 11,000+ SL repair cost, getting insta-gibbed by a tank from the 1970s firing second generation ATGMs or bombed from orbit is rather frustrating, even if the latter is a rather appropriate example of "reality ensues" for what would have happened had the Maus gone into production.
@@bro3217 you can rely on the armor of the maus just learn to play it :) you need to angle the hull and turret and only show your cheek when you want to fire . maus armor will spot all rounds that are not apds whit hight pen , heat and atgm . everything else is a big nop : D and most player just rush whit the maus and get killed . play it like a normal tank be carefull and dont think you god and you will be fine
@@bro3217 i see a video of a maus player taking on a is7 and win on you tube so...
You should play the AMX M4, I remember it being one of my favorite tanks in the game when I was grinding France but I haven't played it in a while.
You should do like a longer video with like the infamous 8.0 line up for america being the m551 t95e1 and the m163
He was amphibious, ergo he must go into the water when given the option.
The difficulty with the Maus is that it has really different playstyles depending on the br of the battle. If you get uptiered all the way to apfsds, you stay at the back and ocasionally get some kills, but If it's anything else, you rush forward and rule. People say the Maus gets penetrated by anything. Those people also dont even try to angle it. If you angle the turret correctly, there is almost no vehicles that dont have apfsds that could penetrate it and the hull doesnt even need to be angles. Then just wiggle to not get your gun taken out and have fun
I wonder if they could bring it back as a squad vehicle as well as having another variant with the quad 30mm turret on top, just to make it to where the turret has its own crew and can function like ship AA? granted this is not happening under any circumstances but would be neat.
Probably impossible- but would be funny! Bump the normal maus to 7.3 and that goes 7.7 :)
I honestly love playing the muas I’m so glad I was able to get it
Spookston: *pretty casual gameplay*
Me: * my surrounding teammates die before being surrounded and bullied/
Bombed before even reaching the battle/
Meets a T114/
Gets barrel broken for 14th time in a row by the same person *
Can you make a vid on the STA-3? its like a really shitty leopard 1 with an autoloader (even worse now that its optics got nerfed :c )
My boy imma need that drone vid 😩
whit what graphics are you playing your game? damn it looks so cool
"Slow is pain, fast light tanks are my thing."
You should play the Valentine next.
Ive been playing the Maus alot lately and ive been able to mvp most mid to down tier games I get. (I dont take this out on an uptier) It plays well in a downtier on large maps - specifically single objective maps. I was able to get a nuke with no caps, 4 kills, only by taking a tremendous amount of hits that gave me enough SP. Find a good spot for this tank afar, angle the turret and hull in a downtier and you are basically invincible. Centurior mk 5 is your main weakness as overpressure from the squash head 1 shots the Maus.
I love playing the Maus though. Its huge and slow and ridiculous and I love it. Every match is a fun match because I expect nothing! It's also very satisfying to pop HEAT-FS slinging cold war MBTs with the APHE-DS round. It may be a mostly fake round, but it does help the Maus be slightly more reliable on the battlefield.
Of course, I say all this as a Heavy Tank lover, someone who scoffs every time Spook makes a video about how light tanks are the best.
It came back temporarily
I always felt bad when I was playing France at 8.0 with the AMX-10RC and there were Maus (Mais?) and was already across the map with apfsds or heatfs side shooting them before they could get to the points. To be fair, those were usually open maps and urban maps the Maus would usually win if I ended up running into one simply due to the fact they can get their gun laid before the AMX-10 could.
You should play the Strv 103-0 or 103A. The 103C doesn't quite work that well with the hull aiming but the -0 and A work great.
idk if you have a vid on it, but would be cool to see the obj.906
Oh, maus and tiger 2 105, i used these 2 bad bois to grind the tier 6 german ground tree way back 2018, along with the panther 2 to grind ground assault mode. Sucks that new players cant research panther 2 and tiger 2 105, it makes a great 6.7(or 7.0 if you play arcade like me) lineup along with other germans tanks, like the classic tiger 2.
I never have a problem getting kills with the Maus, when the snail doesn't full uptier me.
OOOOF you nearly gave me a heart attack when you said they removed the Maus from the game. I thought they removed it completly like all accounts that had it it got removed from.
“Minimum 13 horsepower per ton”
Ok, play the R3, but the T106 variant with the funny rocket thing
THE SHERMAN VC! no clue why, but i love that tank. I would like to learn to play it better and a few tricks would be useful.
Hey spook you should give the m1128 a try in 10.0 ish lobbys the thing isnt necessarily underrated but people sleep on it consideringhow well it can hold its own in an uptier
Okay random suggestion the German 2.7 Sd.Kfz.234/2. I was using it at 4.3 recently and it handles it with ease, I'd be curious to see how high in B.R you think it can go and still be effective.
Attempt Nr. 2: I really would like your opinion on the Strv9040B nowadays, especially compared to other ifvs/light tanks
I accidentally do well in this all the time. My strategy has boiled down to getting the enemy to try and push me from the front, and for some reason, they always do. They rarely flank until I have at least 3 kills and they've all come back at the same time. I am both extremely lucky to not get uptiered in Germany 7.7 much, and to get enemies who are too impatient to deal with a Maus. I tend to have a blast in this thing. Even when you fail, the 2 minute death is still very entertaining, bombs have a tough time getting through if they miss just a bit, and you make the greatest distraction. Won many games by having 4-5 players trying to get on my side.
with a tiger 2P you can actually pen the front of the turret, pretty hard to do but if they get close enough you can do it.
Hey spook, I'm new to the Swedish tree and was wondering if you could help give some tips for 5.0 and 4.7
God the ending looked like a memorial for the patron 😂
Honestly it very satisfying to watch peoples play the Maus get the very big tank combat fun
I kinda like it being rare, as not getting the chance to fight it often makes it feel more like this big hulking beast
Honestly sitting back in a super heavy isn't what anybody would ever want to do but it seems like it's hilariously the only way it can be played cuz it literally get melted otherwise and is like the soom turtle and attracts bombs as if it were a giant magnet