Lmao the blurred background for the PvE transition card being a screenshot from the overwatch 2 dev stream where they canceled PvE is just, *chef kiss*
In fairness, that does emphasise the point they're making further in the video more; The mace is super strong, if you're skilled enough to use it that way, and have the appropriate supporting gear and setup alongside it. It's like saying "Batman can beat anyone with prep time", prep time meaning what exactly? The exact amount of time it takes for him to figure out how to defeat his opponent? Exactly. The capless damage means pretty much nothing when you consider that everything it's good against has to be standing still for you to not be taking a massive risk against fighting it with that strategy, when there are already a bunch of other, safer strategies, that provide the same results in about the same amount of time (maybe even less).
i honestly hope mojang adds more weapons like the mace; it's just a more fun, goofy alternative to combat, and more stuff like the mace would be super cool. variety is the spice of life, after all.
To be fair, i have practiced an ungodly amount of time with this weapon, it requires a ton of skill and i admit 2/3 times you won’t hit, but when you do, the damage is so abysmal that you leave them no time to regen and can corner them in seconds. And for the couters, yes they are counters but they can be solved with the same tactics: be unpredictable, and use your whole arsenal, they’ll be ready for you to do the jump and you just maul them with the sword, when they try to defend with the shield, you have a perfect slow moving target
mijang actually learns how to properly balance something for once and minecraft fans can't handle it and call it overpowered (instant damage 2 arrows can two-shot a full netherite player, and armor literally protects you less the higher the incoming damage is)
13:08 Random idea i just had, damage heart particles shift in color the closer the mob is to death after the hit, if the mob has higher health the particles will be brighter, if the mob is close to dead then the hearts would be darker (maybe similar to the current color). I think this might be an interesting idea and fits with the vibe of Minecraft
@@foodisscarce I mean, as far as i know color blindness doesn’t affect how well someone can see the brightness of a color, it just affects how the person sees hues. The idea im talking about is only changing the brightness value of the damage hearts, not as much the hue or saturation. The current color of the damage hearts is very dark, and if the brightest color is made to be very bright such as something close to pure red, then surely the difference would be visible? Of course im no expert on color blindness
Hey goober, I actually read through the pastebin and I’m here to tell you that the music choice was *exquisite* and did in fact enhance the experience :3
i'm super surprised you dont have more viewers cause this is a pretty high quality video, youtube recommendations once again finding me a great small channel
I was arguing with people claiming it would be op because it “could” one shot. Idk how they ignored the fact that you’re not hitting stationary targets like ever
The editing, the information and generally how you setup the video are top notch, amazing work! Talking about the topic of the video, the mace at the current state is much less scarier than it was at it's peak, although the damage acceleration in the beginning of the fall matches the previous iteration quite well (until 5 blocks, higher its worse ). Im gonna talk about the mace in it's prime, since i have more knowledge and experience with it, but gonna bring the latest iteration as well Original mace could 1 shot a maxed player from 15ish blocks ( w Str2 ), the current can from 9ish blocks ( w Str2 and Density 5) and the Mace at its prime could do the work in 5 blocks ( w Str2, Density 5 and Breach 4 ), it was absolute type of weapon if we exlude explosives. It also had stats of the regular diamond sword, so you could literally use the mace instead of it and in combination with Breach 4 (60% armor penetration) and Strength2 it was dealing more damage than a maxed sword with Str2, so it wasn't even competition Prime mace could 1 hit a golem from 11 blocks ( maxed wind charge jump ), so it was literally possible to do 100 damage consistently, not even mentioning the wind burst enchantment, which allowed to chain the jumps, with less height and damage than with wind charges, but faster and easier The counter measures for the mace always existed, as you mentioned the slow falling was/still absolute defense against it and crystal(pvp) was/still perfect counter pick in all situations. - The bow isn't the perfect counter simply because you can use the shield mid air and just stop using it the moment you want to hit someone. In my opinion the crossbow is a perfect counter, considering you can preload it with slow falling arrows and with piercing no shield would stop them The main problem with using a mace is the movement of the opponent, but there are situation and ways in which you can either stop the opponent from moving ( cobwebs, slowness potions ) or just get a free hit ( Opponent eats food, mends armor or generally in the inventory to restock ). Also you are missing the main reason why the mace is overpowered - you pay no risks for using it ( except if the opponent is using CPvP, although for most ppl its game over either way XD ). The worst that can happen when you attend a mace jump is a bow shot in the face or get trapped in the cobweb, but a successful hit with a mace was ( and sometimes still is ) a guaranteed pop/kill of the opponent or generally a very big slice of their health. It was completely absurd when you could 1 tap a maxed netherite player from 5 blocks, it's laughable distance The current iteration of the mace is far weaker, new speed completely removed the viability of using it as a sword and the damage nerf made it far worse against the PvE ( previously the acceleration was base 3 damage + 5 density (1 per level ) = 8 total per block // Now past 8 blocks the acceleration is base 1 damage +2.5 density (0.5 per level ) = 3.5 total per block ). Its still pretty overpowered in hands of a good player, but generally its much more situational for most
@@birdbrain9280the shield is used on a separated slot dude,you bring it up with a button without taking away your weapon,thus u keep the Charged mace.
I think the mace can be more useful in survival if the AOE of the smash attack is improved, maybe through an enchantment. Make it so the impact of the mace is so powerful it does damage to entities standing like 2 blocks away from the one that got hit.
I dont like the inclusion of crystals as an example of "situational burst damage" if you have a kb sword and are fast enough you can do almost full damage with the crystal every hit, the main reason everyone doesnt use it all the time is the fact that its expensive but mostly because it isnt allowed on most servers the mace also falls into this category for the same reason
imo i feel like they should change the damage from being calculated on how far u fell over to how fast youre moving instead. it would probably make it more fun to use (like if you were using it with an elytra for example) while still not deviating from its original playstyle. and if u still want crazy instakill setups just make it so after u reach "terminal velocity" start calculating damage based on how many blocks u fell at max speed
I have found the mace way better than a sword for fighting common mobs a lot of times, I have 2 videos on that, but overall is just fun to play with, is useful enough to not sit on the shelf as a trophy never to be used, but not overpower to the point the whole game is centered around it wind burst is very efficient to fight groups of mobs and I feel mojang wanted people to get more into using it on fodder considering they raised its durability after the last nerfs perfectly balanced :D
Love your videos, your train of thought is just on track enough to cover the important stuff, but takes enough scenic routes to keep it interesting. Keep up the great work lol
One thing that I haven't heard people talking about much with the mace is how it is directly countered by end crystals. To deal maximum damage with end crystals, your opponent needs to be fully above the obsidian block that you need to place a crystal. In regular crystal pvp this can be a challenge, but if you use the mace, you're just setting yourself up to be end crystalled, particularly since having to wind charge up gives your opponent more than enough time to react with a crystal. While the mace could still be useful in non-crystal pvp, if you have a mace and your opponent has end crystals, you either don't use the mace or you try to and die.
exactlyy my thoughts, even when the mace in pre-releases, the target is gonna be moving and youre not gonna hit it 100%, i love how the devs said, when they're adding a new weapon they dont want to overthrow the others which to me sounds like a good principle
I liked the Mace better before they nerfed its attack speed. I should have the option to use it as a regular melee weapon instead of the sword if I want to.
The mace is a lot like The Spy, with a bit of forethought and skill it can kick ass but realistically speaking the other options are simply easier to use and more practical in most situations. Like yeah being able to jump in the air and then slam a creeper to death is great and all in a vaccum, but consider that most combat encounters in Minecraft happen in dark and often cramped caves where this would just result in head injury. The Mace is fine as a gimmick weapon, it's not replacing axes and swords as mainstay weapons and that's okay.
Well... I never knew the Market Garden was actually named after something in WW2 I just thought it was called that because a Shovel is a Gardening tool
I agree with pretty much everything here, except for when you put the mace in the same category as end crystals. End crystals are actually insanely OP and will destroy anyone that doesn't have them, assuming the user has even a basic understanding of how to use them.
Damn i was gonna comment about how happy i am to find u cuz ur videos are great and ur pretty underground, and then i realized Im already subscribed. Remember me when ur famous mr dimm four
My name is Mees which is pronounced Mace and I live in Nijmegen where project market garden failed (the bridge too far in question is just down the road from where I live) so I think the universe is trying to tell me something and it's related to falling and hitting something
I never thought people would think that mace is overpowered, it is insanely niche and literally built to do decent work around wind charges or elytra. I just hope they start adding muskets and flintlocks if they're going to keep adding niche weapons in the future.
OK I know I left a comment saying that this video is amazing but I have to go back and say just HOW MUCH the freaking comedy style, music choice and timing (hey kinda like that mace analogy) adds to this video. You have my ass smiling this whole vid, great stuff💙
So this is like parrying in souls games but much more punishing as it is rewarding, you get to LITERALLY 1-TAP ANYTHING, but if you fail, you get 1-Tapped yourself.
Awesome video! Just wanted to mention that there’s been some new cool tech that was discovered (because there always is). Property swapping is holding a weapon and then keybind/left click at the same time. This allows for the damage of the first weapon to be applied and the properties of the second to be applied as well. With this you can essentially use a sword that pierces through armor using breach (that’s pretty good). If you’ve ever watched any crystal fights, how they use the mace is by elytraing around and occasionally re-equipping the chestplate to register “blocks traveled” and activate an instakill mace. New methods and tech is always being discovered! This was a really good analysis of the mace, went much deeper into its applications and functions! 📈📈
Interesting take on the Mace! I agree it's not necessarily overpowered, but it definitely adds a new layer of strategy to PvP. Landing that perfect falling hit is super satisfying, but the risk/reward is definitely there. Maybe if Mojang tweaked the fall distance a bit it could find a good balance. This comment was provided to you by Gemini
I hate how the most interesting thing we have gotten in years for both single player(PVE) and for PVP is already getting nerfed massively despite not having enough time for the PvP Meta to change. It isn’t even the most broken thing in single player(PVE) either given the elytra and totems of undying exist and don’t forget shields either. It is just a fun item and I really just want it to remain that way. I should have the freedom to break the game if I want to in single player. Minecraft is a game about player freedom and the game is not lacking in ways to completely Break the game
@@isaacdayton4962 You probably missed it, but people already been testing it in PvP since the day it was released and it was easy to see how much it can change the PvP scene. If you think having an item that completely negates all others weapons and just being an absolute point of the game is good, that's your opinion, but I don't think it's the correct way of thinking and considering the feedback, a lot of people also think this way ( wouldn't have been nerfed if the feedback was good ). Also the mace has basically returned to his original state, with a bit bigger damage in the beginning of the fall. People were happy with the original mace, so I don't understand why switch sides. Obviously the stuff Mojang made with enchantments completely broken it, so fixing that was just a matter of time
@@pqdhiwyw I am mainly upset by the attack speed change. It’s the one change that genuinely sucks. The point of it negating all weapons is more complicated. Shields already negate a lot of weapons and there is counter Play for it just like there is counter play for the mace. The mace one shotting full netherite in PvP was busted and I won’t deny that, the enchantment change is fine for that reason.
@@isaacdayton4962 the shield example isn't really fitting with the mace. Shield isn't making other items obsolete, I can easily catch the shield from the back using sword or as you know, disabled it with an axe. It's another item that adds more strategy to the game while not making other items necessary bad. Mace just literally replaced the sword at the previous state. Aside from sword ecnhaments, mace was just a better version of it in every way with Breach 4, not even mentioning you had full access to density 5 and fall damage acceleration
@@Vetrical “a bit over double damage” in what context and compared to what? Cuz it’s certainly not double damage compared to swords and/or axes? By the way, does the mace significantly buff or even synergize with any other weapons? No? Oh well in that case if you need to bring other weapons for it to be viable than it’s not particularly op, huh? You seem to be treating it like a less effective axe for the purpose of pvp
If you're falling at least 4 blocks into a crit, Density is better than breach against full Netherite. It's only 0-3 block falls where breach has an anti-armor advantage.
Ahhh, I love "Ceiling vs Consistency" discussions. Yeah, the Mace is incredibly High roll and requires a lot to go right in order to pull off the crazy insane damage.
cant expect the players to know what the amrkwt garden is if most of the players atm were born AFTER minecraft and have their brains rot on tik tok thats telling them somethings OP when its not
To be fair to the mace in PVP: mobs bee-line (slowly) towards you, making wind burst maces have a decent use of changing kills for less durability usage. Also side note; The Mace is a burst damage weapon: in a game that heavily favors DPS. It’s why TNT blocks are basically useless in PvP, but TNT mine carts and end crystals are OP, and beds are incredibly strong in PvE: Because the sheer speed in acquiring that damage makes it super useful, the set up time for TNT and mace hits kneecap their usefulness in combat
the only part about the mace i actively hate... mod balancing implications something ive noticed is that a lot of the more recent updates with stuff like the smithing template, are so ungodly toxic and harmful to mod developers, i literally know someone who wants to just add a universal upgrade template for his mod's items so he can "turn off" smithing templates in a vanilla-esq way since the mod has like 9 different upgrading types in it
Im surprised you haven’t mentioned end crystals as the perfect counter to the mace. Launching yourself into the air is literally the worst position to be when facing them.
Why do people think that players are just gonna. Stand in place if they see someone getting ready for a mace hit. Like they literally just gotta run around in a circle an theyll be fine
I want armor and weapons with effects. Like, outside of enchants. Maybe a sword that drops from the warden, where it doubles exp when killing, but in return is only as strong as a normal diamond sword, and can't be enchanted?
The mace on bedrock works a little differently, two notable changes being that you can actually do damage while flying with elytra (and you can save yourself with elytra if you miss), and you can spam click mace on bedrock, making it way easier to hit
nah the mace in the second snapshot tho was stupidly broken (bc thats when they added the enchants for it and there were no nerfs to it yet- plus density and breach could be on the same mace and it still was a diamond sword)
Lmao the blurred background for the PvE transition card being a screenshot from the overwatch 2 dev stream where they canceled PvE is just, *chef kiss*
im so glad somebody noticed that
“We have to understand world
war two” bro im dying
youtube essayist be like:
but soundsmith how else am i gonna justify my inability to pvp without calling the enemys weapon overpowered!!
Good question solider
*Retire*
lol
@@smailydude*dishonorable discharge*
Pick the direct hit
Blame it on lag, or call the opponent a cheater
Wdym, kneejerk reactions from people who don't play the game is the most valuable form of feedback.
You mean completely valid criticism that he doesn’t counter properly
@@bennittotheburrito9606 Bro didnt wacth the video
@@peltimies2469 I did lol
@@peltimies2469 I wish I didn’t
@bennittotheburrito9606 what criticism didn't he counter properly? I'm not super informed on the debate
you couldnt oneshot the dragon in the intro because you were hitting its body hitbox, which takes less damage than hitting its head hitbox
also he didnt have str 2
@@ArticRave u dont need strength i did it in survival with elytra and mace
@@ArticRave strength would barely effect the outcome, there was more than a sliver of health left
In fairness, that does emphasise the point they're making further in the video more;
The mace is super strong, if you're skilled enough to use it that way, and have the appropriate supporting gear and setup alongside it. It's like saying "Batman can beat anyone with prep time", prep time meaning what exactly? The exact amount of time it takes for him to figure out how to defeat his opponent? Exactly.
The capless damage means pretty much nothing when you consider that everything it's good against has to be standing still for you to not be taking a massive risk against fighting it with that strategy, when there are already a bunch of other, safer strategies, that provide the same results in about the same amount of time (maybe even less).
@@Imm_o *cough cough* bed bombing.
0:39 so can an unenchanted bow, but i dont see anyone saying that arrows should be nerfed
that takes so SO much more skill
That's an exploit, completely different terrain.
@NicoleColenico it is not a exploit it is just the way arrows work, the faster they go the more damage they deal
@@NicoleColenicoit's not an exploit it's an intended feature even if an unintended use of it
@@lisayaraerdmann That's the definition of a exploit.
i honestly hope mojang adds more weapons like the mace; it's just a more fun, goofy alternative to combat, and more stuff like the mace would be super cool. variety is the spice of life, after all.
I would also love this. Give us nunchucks, Mojang!!
Someone had the idea of a flail which is essentially the mace but based on horizontal speed
To be fair, i have practiced an ungodly amount of time with this weapon, it requires a ton of skill and i admit 2/3 times you won’t hit, but when you do, the damage is so abysmal that you leave them no time to regen and can corner them in seconds.
And for the couters, yes they are counters but they can be solved with the same tactics: be unpredictable, and use your whole arsenal, they’ll be ready for you to do the jump and you just maul them with the sword, when they try to defend with the shield, you have a perfect slow moving target
Saying it does “abysmal” damage is saying that its very weak, not the other way around.
@@eruptorr9103 whoops, i love engrish am i right
Jumping high to attack is inherently the most predictable attack ever. so your arguement falls very short
edit: no pun intended lol
@@Weberkooksi mean, just use the environment to your advantage. the mace is strong when used correctly
Sword=crowd control and dps
Axe=crit damage and dissable shields
Mace=high risk high reward
what a start to a minecraft video. I did NOT expect WW2 to be mentioned in an analysis of MINECRAFT. WOW.
I had to stop it, I'm flabbergasted.
Also shields exist. You can just block this telegraphed by falling attack
Isn't the main strategy to beat shields jumping up to hit them from above since the shields can't be pointed up?
@@Omega_1111they can though
@@MontycelA thought shields pointed straight forward in game?
Axes disable shields, though. Just wanted to point that out
@@KabalFromMK9 but not for forever and jumping to use a mace takes a bit
mijang actually learns how to properly balance something for once and minecraft fans can't handle it and call it overpowered (instant damage 2 arrows can two-shot a full netherite player, and armor literally protects you less the higher the incoming damage is)
It protects you less the more damage? What the
a better “armor toughness” stat makes the armor better against high damage
Finally, a minecraft player with a brain
13:08 Random idea i just had, damage heart particles shift in color the closer the mob is to death after the hit, if the mob has higher health the particles will be brighter, if the mob is close to dead then the hearts would be darker (maybe similar to the current color). I think this might be an interesting idea and fits with the vibe of Minecraft
That's literally the opposite of accessibility
@@enavoid Could you please elaborate on how this is a bad idea?
@@dragonfury1565i imagine they're talking about it being inaccessible to colorblind people
@@foodisscarce I mean, as far as i know color blindness doesn’t affect how well someone can see the brightness of a color, it just affects how the person sees hues. The idea im talking about is only changing the brightness value of the damage hearts, not as much the hue or saturation. The current color of the damage hearts is very dark, and if the brightest color is made to be very bright such as something close to pure red, then surely the difference would be visible? Of course im no expert on color blindness
@@dragonfury1565 could also have a few unique sprites to go alongside it with the hearts looking more broken as the health lowers
That's it. The Axis and Allies joke earned my subscription.
I love the estradiol pill reference
Wait, where?
3:29
omg trans reference 😮
@@Valerescence 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
Yep, also noticed it lol :3
Hey goober, I actually read through the pastebin and I’m here to tell you that the music choice was *exquisite* and did in fact enhance the experience
:3
what the flip real yat
@@gosh5557 what the flip real gosh
always get jumpscared when people use the ultrakill OST in videos but jumpscared in a good way. that game's music is incredible
@@Yatloaf gyatloaf!?!??!?!?! :0
@@gosh5557 you've gyatt tuah be kitten me
i'm super surprised you dont have more viewers cause this is a pretty high quality video, youtube recommendations once again finding me a great small channel
He intentionally killed his visibility by including footage of WW2 in a video about minecraft 😂. But who cares we found em
@@Weberkooks "we first have to understand WW2" was an incredibly funny transition so i'd say worth
4:15 oh my god signalis
Oh my God
milk
so true!
Elster gaming
Lstr
I was arguing with people claiming it would be op because it “could” one shot. Idk how they ignored the fact that you’re not hitting stationary targets like ever
The best part is, slow falling arrows also work with multishot crossbows. So you don’t even have to aim.
i jumped when i heard “but first we are gonna have to go back to world war 2” because i wasnt expecting that dawg
Here’s some engagement for the Al Gore rhythm
3:31 now that's my kinda throwaway joke
The editing, the information and generally how you setup the video are top notch, amazing work!
Talking about the topic of the video, the mace at the current state is much less scarier than it was at it's peak, although the damage acceleration in the beginning of the fall matches the previous iteration quite well (until 5 blocks, higher its worse ). Im gonna talk about the mace in it's prime, since i have more knowledge and experience with it, but gonna bring the latest iteration as well
Original mace could 1 shot a maxed player from 15ish blocks ( w Str2 ), the current can from 9ish blocks ( w Str2 and Density 5) and the Mace at its prime could do the work in 5 blocks ( w Str2, Density 5 and Breach 4 ), it was absolute type of weapon if we exlude explosives. It also had stats of the regular diamond sword, so you could literally use the mace instead of it and in combination with Breach 4 (60% armor penetration) and Strength2 it was dealing more damage than a maxed sword with Str2, so it wasn't even competition
Prime mace could 1 hit a golem from 11 blocks ( maxed wind charge jump ), so it was literally possible to do 100 damage consistently, not even mentioning the wind burst enchantment, which allowed to chain the jumps, with less height and damage than with wind charges, but faster and easier
The counter measures for the mace always existed, as you mentioned the slow falling was/still absolute defense against it and crystal(pvp) was/still perfect counter pick in all situations.
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The bow isn't the perfect counter simply because you can use the shield mid air and just stop using it the moment you want to hit someone. In my opinion the crossbow is a perfect counter, considering you can preload it with slow falling arrows and with piercing no shield would stop them
The main problem with using a mace is the movement of the opponent, but there are situation and ways in which you can either stop the opponent from moving ( cobwebs, slowness potions ) or just get a free hit ( Opponent eats food, mends armor or generally in the inventory to restock ). Also you are missing the main reason why the mace is overpowered - you pay no risks for using it ( except if the opponent is using CPvP, although for most ppl its game over either way XD ). The worst that can happen when you attend a mace jump is a bow shot in the face or get trapped in the cobweb, but a successful hit with a mace was ( and sometimes still is ) a guaranteed pop/kill of the opponent or generally a very big slice of their health. It was completely absurd when you could 1 tap a maxed netherite player from 5 blocks, it's laughable distance
The current iteration of the mace is far weaker, new speed completely removed the viability of using it as a sword and the damage nerf made it far worse against the PvE ( previously the acceleration was base 3 damage + 5 density (1 per level ) = 8 total per block // Now past 8 blocks the acceleration is base 1 damage +2.5 density (0.5 per level ) = 3.5 total per block ). Its still pretty overpowered in hands of a good player, but generally its much more situational for most
how do you plan on pulling out the shield midair???
@@birdbrain9280the shield is used on a separated slot dude,you bring it up with a button without taking away your weapon,thus u keep the Charged mace.
I think the mace can be more useful in survival if the AOE of the smash attack is improved, maybe through an enchantment. Make it so the impact of the mace is so powerful it does damage to entities standing like 2 blocks away from the one that got hit.
Ive gotten to 3:00 but, even before I started I had the idea of the entire video.
"Busted in *theory* but try to execute it."
I dont like the inclusion of crystals as an example of "situational burst damage" if you have a kb sword and are fast enough you can do almost full damage with the crystal every hit, the main reason everyone doesnt use it all the time is the fact that its expensive but mostly because it isnt allowed on most servers the mace also falls into this category for the same reason
12:30 I don’t know if i would call Soundsmith one of the “best market gardeners in all of tf2”
"ThE Mace iS ovERpOwEreD"
end crystals...
I agree so much with the damage number toggle in accessibility.
imo i feel like they should change the damage from being calculated on how far u fell over to how fast youre moving instead. it would probably make it more fun to use (like if you were using it with an elytra for example) while still not deviating from its original playstyle. and if u still want crazy instakill setups just make it so after u reach "terminal velocity" start calculating damage based on how many blocks u fell at max speed
I have found the mace way better than a sword for fighting common mobs a lot of times, I have 2 videos on that, but overall is just fun to play with, is useful enough to not sit on the shelf as a trophy never to be used, but not overpower to the point the whole game is centered around it
wind burst is very efficient to fight groups of mobs and I feel mojang wanted people to get more into using it on fodder considering they raised its durability after the last nerfs
perfectly balanced :D
Love your videos, your train of thought is just on track enough to cover the important stuff, but takes enough scenic routes to keep it interesting. Keep up the great work lol
One thing that I haven't heard people talking about much with the mace is how it is directly countered by end crystals. To deal maximum damage with end crystals, your opponent needs to be fully above the obsidian block that you need to place a crystal. In regular crystal pvp this can be a challenge, but if you use the mace, you're just setting yourself up to be end crystalled, particularly since having to wind charge up gives your opponent more than enough time to react with a crystal. While the mace could still be useful in non-crystal pvp, if you have a mace and your opponent has end crystals, you either don't use the mace or you try to and die.
exactlyy my thoughts, even when the mace in pre-releases, the target is gonna be moving and youre not gonna hit it 100%, i love how the devs said, when they're adding a new weapon they dont want to overthrow the others which to me sounds like a good principle
I liked the Mace better before they nerfed its attack speed. I should have the option to use it as a regular melee weapon instead of the sword if I want to.
Agreed, especially when Smite and Breach weren’t mutually exclusive, would’ve been a cool alternative to the sword for pve
I love this classic aproach to making video essays by starting out of nowhere with WW2 reference
The mace is a lot like The Spy, with a bit of forethought and skill it can kick ass but realistically speaking the other options are simply easier to use and more practical in most situations. Like yeah being able to jump in the air and then slam a creeper to death is great and all in a vaccum, but consider that most combat encounters in Minecraft happen in dark and often cramped caves where this would just result in head injury.
The Mace is fine as a gimmick weapon, it's not replacing axes and swords as mainstay weapons and that's okay.
Well... I never knew the Market Garden was actually named after something in WW2
I just thought it was called that because a Shovel is a Gardening tool
Wow, you changed my perspective on the matter. I did not the full picture, I had only tunneled vision on "infinite damage". Thanks
=D
Ah yes, minecraft, well known for it's balanced pvp
The first time i hit a market garden i felt like i understood the game intrinsically
Good video, and even better taste in music. I think wind burst is the only thing you didn’t mention which when used well brings the mace up a tier
0:46 Three absolute gut punches in a row, being this funny is illegal!
5:18 a shield wont save you, slam stuns exist
I agree with pretty much everything here, except for when you put the mace in the same category as end crystals. End crystals are actually insanely OP and will destroy anyone that doesn't have them, assuming the user has even a basic understanding of how to use them.
I think this weapon would be a little better in single player if the area knockback did more damage to mobs the higher you fell from.
so that is how the team fortress 2 weapon got its name huh
Damn i was gonna comment about how happy i am to find u cuz ur videos are great and ur pretty underground, and then i realized Im already subscribed. Remember me when ur famous mr dimm four
My name is Mees which is pronounced Mace and I live in Nijmegen where project market garden failed (the bridge too far in question is just down the road from where I live) so I think the universe is trying to tell me something and it's related to falling and hitting something
3:30 Estrogen reference
I honestly dont even see the mace as a weapon just a new fun clutching method
Meanwhile, tridents in Bedrock being abke to one shot full metherite from just a normal crit. And being able to spam that shit.
I never thought people would think that mace is overpowered, it is insanely niche and literally built to do decent work around wind charges or elytra. I just hope they start adding muskets and flintlocks if they're going to keep adding niche weapons in the future.
OK I know I left a comment saying that this video is amazing but I have to go back and say just HOW MUCH the freaking comedy style, music choice and timing (hey kinda like that mace analogy) adds to this video. You have my ass smiling this whole vid, great stuff💙
the term "the enemy gamer" has been permanently etched into my lexicon
In most case. This Mace going to get me kill more often then Warden kill me.
3:24 if you could just offhand a totem and if you miss swap to a sword or something and drop them
Doesn't the long recharge time mean that the enemy can get some hits on you before that? Plus, the fall damage.
@@miimiiandco No, swapping to a sword would let you drop them. Also, the totem is there to counteract the fall damage.
So this is like parrying in souls games but much more punishing as it is rewarding, you get to LITERALLY 1-TAP ANYTHING, but if you fail, you get 1-Tapped yourself.
you deserve much more subs, man
No matter how many views these videos get, I always love to watch a good Minecraft analysis. Thanks for posting and keep it up ❤
ALSO spam clicking works because theres no downside you raise your chances of hitting them for a slight damage reduction
Awesome video! Just wanted to mention that there’s been some new cool tech that was discovered (because there always is).
Property swapping is holding a weapon and then keybind/left click at the same time. This allows for the damage of the first weapon to be applied and the properties of the second to be applied as well. With this you can essentially use a sword that pierces through armor using breach (that’s pretty good).
If you’ve ever watched any crystal fights, how they use the mace is by elytraing around and occasionally re-equipping the chestplate to register “blocks traveled” and activate an instakill mace.
New methods and tech is always being discovered! This was a really good analysis of the mace, went much deeper into its applications and functions! 📈📈
Interesting take on the Mace! I agree it's not necessarily overpowered, but it definitely adds a new layer of strategy to PvP. Landing that perfect falling hit is super satisfying, but the risk/reward is definitely there. Maybe if Mojang tweaked the fall distance a bit it could find a good balance. This comment was provided to you by Gemini
I hate how the most interesting thing we have gotten in years for both single player(PVE) and for PVP is already getting nerfed massively despite not having enough time for the PvP Meta to change. It isn’t even the most broken thing in single player(PVE) either given the elytra and totems of undying exist and don’t forget shields either.
It is just a fun item and I really just want it to remain that way. I should have the freedom to break the game if I want to in single player. Minecraft is a game about player freedom and the game is not lacking in ways to completely Break the game
@@isaacdayton4962 You probably missed it, but people already been testing it in PvP since the day it was released and it was easy to see how much it can change the PvP scene. If you think having an item that completely negates all others weapons and just being an absolute point of the game is good, that's your opinion, but I don't think it's the correct way of thinking and considering the feedback, a lot of people also think this way ( wouldn't have been nerfed if the feedback was good ).
Also the mace has basically returned to his original state, with a bit bigger damage in the beginning of the fall. People were happy with the original mace, so I don't understand why switch sides. Obviously the stuff Mojang made with enchantments completely broken it, so fixing that was just a matter of time
@@pqdhiwyw I am mainly upset by the attack speed change. It’s the one change that genuinely sucks.
The point of it negating all weapons is more complicated. Shields already negate a lot of weapons and there is counter Play for it just like there is counter play for the mace.
The mace one shotting full netherite in PvP was busted and I won’t deny that, the enchantment change is fine for that reason.
@@isaacdayton4962 the shield example isn't really fitting with the mace. Shield isn't making other items obsolete, I can easily catch the shield from the back using sword or as you know, disabled it with an axe. It's another item that adds more strategy to the game while not making other items necessary bad. Mace just literally replaced the sword at the previous state. Aside from sword ecnhaments, mace was just a better version of it in every way with Breach 4, not even mentioning you had full access to density 5 and fall damage acceleration
@@pqdhiwyw then why is the mace an issue if there is also obvious counter play. Bows exist.
market gardening mentioned
funny spoon go bonk
4:00 that joke was enough for me to subscribe
3:31 you're not limited to bringing only one weapon you know?
he literally makes this point later in the PvE section of the video. You've missed the point, which is that the mace is not overpowered
@@frimi8593 a bit over double damage without a counter, that's not overpowered? Did you never learn about breach swapping?
@@Vetrical “a bit over double damage” in what context and compared to what? Cuz it’s certainly not double damage compared to swords and/or axes? By the way, does the mace significantly buff or even synergize with any other weapons? No? Oh well in that case if you need to bring other weapons for it to be viable than it’s not particularly op, huh? You seem to be treating it like a less effective axe for the purpose of pvp
@@frimi8593 I have an explanation in the reply to the other comment
The mace is fine in pvp but in pve its pretty crazy since you dont even need to go high or risk dying because windburst
If you're falling at least 4 blocks into a crit, Density is better than breach against full Netherite. It's only 0-3 block falls where breach has an anti-armor advantage.
Bows have been OP since enchanting was introduced and I love it
2:13 ULTRAKILL REFERENCE!!!!
ULTRAKILL REFERENCE!!!!
he also plays glory halfway through the video
If the enemy has slow falling arrows, you can use speed 2 potions. Just dodge the arrow.
to be fair it was broken in the snapshots where all the critics come from, after the nerfs i heard a lot that they kill the mace
Ahhh, I love "Ceiling vs Consistency" discussions. Yeah, the Mace is incredibly High roll and requires a lot to go right in order to pull off the crazy insane damage.
what's the song at 7:25?
ok it's in the link nvm then
"To explain we have to start with WW2" Huh? Bros capping for watch time.
*2 minutes later*
Oh shit he wasn't kidding.
But have you considered: Mace surprise attack. My fuckwad friends keep burning through my totems for no reason GRAAAAHH!!!
you’re sleeping on riptide 1 or 2 instead of wind charges, but i generally agree
Holy shit I didn't know the MarketGarden came from WW2
ULTRAKILL ROCKET SOUNDS?
Just moving a few blocks counters the mace
cant expect the players to know what the amrkwt garden is if most of the players atm were born AFTER minecraft and have their brains rot on tik tok thats telling them somethings OP when its not
This channel is criminally underrated
Everyone is happy untill slow falling is used
To be fair to the mace in PVP: mobs bee-line (slowly) towards you, making wind burst maces have a decent use of changing kills for less durability usage.
Also side note; The Mace is a burst damage weapon: in a game that heavily favors DPS. It’s why TNT blocks are basically useless in PvP, but TNT mine carts and end crystals are OP, and beds are incredibly strong in PvE:
Because the sheer speed in acquiring that damage makes it super useful, the set up time for TNT and mace hits kneecap their usefulness in combat
The mace is like the axe and turtle helmet, sure it's overpowered in theory, but in actual meta fights it's impractical.
the only part about the mace i actively hate... mod balancing implications
something ive noticed is that a lot of the more recent updates with stuff like the smithing template, are so ungodly toxic and harmful to mod developers, i literally know someone who wants to just add a universal upgrade template for his mod's items so he can "turn off" smithing templates in a vanilla-esq way since the mod has like 9 different upgrading types in it
0:54 Hey. I dont. I dont think those are the right allies
Im surprised you haven’t mentioned end crystals as the perfect counter to the mace.
Launching yourself into the air is literally the worst position to be when facing them.
tf2 with minecraft and terraria ost, just goated direction
the enderdragon could be one hit killed before the hammer...
10:53 And how the fuck are you gonna heal ?
7:30 SICK AIRSHOT COMP
Why do people think that players are just gonna. Stand in place if they see someone getting ready for a mace hit. Like they literally just gotta run around in a circle an theyll be fine
ive been playin too much terriria the background music started making me tweak
I want armor and weapons with effects. Like, outside of enchants. Maybe a sword that drops from the warden, where it doubles exp when killing, but in return is only as strong as a normal diamond sword, and can't be enchanted?
Crystals are "occasiational" TF
The mace on bedrock works a little differently, two notable changes being that you can actually do damage while flying with elytra (and you can save yourself with elytra if you miss), and you can spam click mace on bedrock, making it way easier to hit
heard the words market and garden !!!!
nah the mace in the second snapshot tho was stupidly broken (bc thats when they added the enchants for it and there were no nerfs to it yet- plus density and breach could be on the same mace and it still was a diamond sword)
yeah that’s why i avoided talking about that one like it was the plague, that one was busted 100%