How Schwarzenegger's Fame KILLED the Terminator franchise (1/2)

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  • @cordzfx
    @cordzfx  3 роки тому +35

    Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/ckz4d31lwyA/v-deo.html

    • @SparrowNoblePoland
      @SparrowNoblePoland 3 роки тому +2

      You may not care, but my opinion Schwarzenneger's fame didn't kill franchise.
      There was no franchise in the first place.
      There were just two movies- a very solid sci-fi horror, and a very solid sci-fi action film. Both had believable characters that developed in believable way, good acting, solid scenario, and, what is often forgotten, were realistic in therms of physics (except for time travel).
      Terminator 3 started a series of films that completely ignored physics, character development, and had illogical scenarios. These were simply very bad movies written by people with brains of 10 years olds. There is no need to blame an actor here. Even if Schwarzenneger was never to play terminator after T2, there is no reason to believe these movies wouldn't make the same mistakes. Terminator was bound to go downhill past the 80s when computer development went a very different (and in ways slower) path than anticipated. From today's perspecitve even T1 loses a lot, but this doesn't mean that lots of mistakes that T3 and other movies made, couldn't have been avoided. And look at your's criticism as well; most of the time you're actually complaining about scenario, ill character development, mood, and lack respect for physics. Most of these things have nothing to do with Arnold, and to be fair, his somewhat ill performance in T3 fits the film since its only tolerable as a parody.

    • @leejohnstone2285
      @leejohnstone2285 3 роки тому

      Tom Hardy replaces Mel Gibson in Mad Max Fury Road and it becomes the highest grossing of the franchise and bags a load of Oscar nominations. JJ Abrams recast the original Star Trek cast in the 2009 reboot and that becomes the highest grossing film of the franchise. So who says another actor can't play the terminator!

    • @leejohnstone2285
      @leejohnstone2285 3 роки тому

      Terminator a program killer cyborg who doesn't know how to fight and must use a gun to kill

    • @leejohnstone2285
      @leejohnstone2285 3 роки тому

      @@SparrowNoblePoland You no longer need Schwarzenegger as the terminator

    • @reubenr1143
      @reubenr1143 3 роки тому

      13:02 is hilarious

  • @El_oh7199
    @El_oh7199 3 роки тому +751

    Cameron knows how to kill a franchise; just make a film so great that no other filmmakers can ever top it

    • @DinoDave150
      @DinoDave150 3 роки тому +51

      Even the creator of the series can't top it! (Ridley Scott, and to an extent Cameron himself).

    • @dimsumboy22
      @dimsumboy22 3 роки тому +10

      @@DinoDave150 Scott is a hack, always has been.

    • @WrektSK
      @WrektSK 3 роки тому +17

      @@dimsumboy22 I'll go butter up my popcorns and wait here

    • @dvader3000
      @dvader3000 3 роки тому +5

      Thats a stupid statement.
      Cameron made the original and top it with the sequel.
      He didnt kill the franchise

    • @DinoDave150
      @DinoDave150 3 роки тому +15

      @@dvader3000 r/whooooosh

  • @magicjohnson3121
    @magicjohnson3121 3 роки тому +594

    I always wanted to see a movie based on the future wars done well but everyone wants the same T2 formula for every movie for some reason.

    • @RAG3Xbox
      @RAG3Xbox 3 роки тому +38

      i want a de aged michael biehn movie in the future war prequel so bad but i want it done with love of the first two movies i dont want it to be bad :/

    • @matpizzato
      @matpizzato 3 роки тому +30

      Salvation?

    • @giovannigiovanni.7220
      @giovannigiovanni.7220 3 роки тому +25

      @@matpizzato Done well? Plus, while I think Salvation was bad I still wish those other 2 moves were made.

    • @M1keFoxxx
      @M1keFoxxx 3 роки тому +36

      Dark Fate pissed me off for this reason. They touted it as this reboot and how none of the sequels after 2 were canon yet proceeded to make the EXACT same mistakes those movies did and again remade the second movie.

    • @red_menace1829
      @red_menace1829 3 роки тому +6

      I honestly dont understand why people keep wanting it.

  • @tomp.2174
    @tomp.2174 3 роки тому +315

    I usually hate that Salvation is not much talked about but here I welcome it.

    • @cordzfx
      @cordzfx  3 роки тому +99

      I actually want to make a video just dedicated to salvation down the track. I have a fair share of positives for that film.

    • @tomp.2174
      @tomp.2174 3 роки тому +20

      @@cordzfx
      Awesome! This film deserves more love despite the highly intelligent Skynet being a Bond villain. Why even show Skynet?

    • @deeznuts23yearsago
      @deeznuts23yearsago 3 роки тому +3

      Yea salvation is good for the fact it isn’t the over used protector terminator Arnold

    • @darthdeze
      @darthdeze 3 роки тому +4

      @@cordzfx IMO, Salvation had some great potential. A few gripes would be the A-10’s that the resistance flew and the daylight activities, just to name a few.

    • @RubexQewb
      @RubexQewb 3 роки тому +2

      It was good cuz it was actually different from all the other terminator movies .
      Personally I hated it the first time I saw it cuz I was expecting Black Hawk Down with terminators . But watching it again especially directors cut , I appreciate it now .

  • @Flametasticeedits
    @Flametasticeedits 3 роки тому +93

    I'll be...BACK
    No seriously. I'll be back in the next one.

    • @amberlopez7477
      @amberlopez7477 3 роки тому +7

      Only, if there's a ton of cash for you.

    • @GothicXlightning
      @GothicXlightning 3 роки тому +3

      kyle Reese Shotgun blasting Arnold's face is what it is to truly Be BACK

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx 3 роки тому +8

      Despite what a lot of people say i really like The Last Action Hero.

    • @amberlopez7477
      @amberlopez7477 3 роки тому +2

      @@anubusx You, my friend. Have awful taste in films. That movie was a giant turd. Smelly too...

    • @mr.battle20
      @mr.battle20 3 роки тому +7

      @@amberlopez7477 Nah, Last Action Hero was a good film. It was just marketed wrong. People went in expecting it to be an action film, not the silly parody it actually was.

  • @curiousottman
    @curiousottman 3 роки тому +244

    Eddie will always be John Connor. I liked his cameo. Hope he’s doing alright.

    • @Batnano
      @Batnano 3 роки тому +10

      lol he looks like shit now

    • @unstoppableExodia
      @unstoppableExodia 3 роки тому +21

      If you look up the definition of the term drug-fucked his picture is right there. It is a shame. I thought after American History X his career would keep going from strength to strength

    • @burntgrahamcracker2866
      @burntgrahamcracker2866 3 роки тому +24

      Yep his life might have gone different had he not been taken advantage of by a lady years older than him for personal gain

    • @unstoppableExodia
      @unstoppableExodia 3 роки тому +7

      @@burntgrahamcracker2866 oh shit, I had no idea. I thought it was the usual tale of Hollywood excess derailing a promising career

    • @burntgrahamcracker2866
      @burntgrahamcracker2866 3 роки тому +23

      @@unstoppableExodia yeah he was 15 and she was 28 and used to be his tutor

  • @thebubonicj
    @thebubonicj 3 роки тому +100

    Oh no, he looks so sad filming cameos in his car. You need a second channel named CordairyFX.

  • @JohnnyUndaunted
    @JohnnyUndaunted 3 роки тому +25

    I always found it annoying how Arnie's Terminator in the first movie only wore sunglasses in the first movie out of necessity to cover up his damaged/exposed eye and then he ended becoming obsessed with them in the sequels.

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee 9 місяців тому

      thats a great call. t2 is so damn good i excuse it but the rest is just silly. like a dope band playin vegas after their prime

  • @vids2002
    @vids2002 3 роки тому +256

    I love how Arnold basically just kept coming back for the cash and everyone acts like he did it for the love of the series. Even people in this comment section are like "Arnold holds this franchise together" 🙄😑

    • @Jarejander69
      @Jarejander69 3 роки тому +68

      He is a very good example of how most people believe they know celebrities like their dearest friends.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 3 роки тому +32

      @@Jarejander69 it's honestly embarrassing

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill 3 роки тому +10

      Whatever helps them cope

    • @vids2002
      @vids2002 3 роки тому +2

      @@Jarejander69 Yep

    • @vids2002
      @vids2002 3 роки тому +2

      @@shawklan27 Very

  • @obienator
    @obienator 3 роки тому +248

    Poor Edward, filming Cameo’s in his car. Feel so bad for the guy.

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx 3 роки тому +33

      Yeah i wish he would have a big comebsck.

    • @StRanGerManY
      @StRanGerManY 3 роки тому +46

      Yeah, it's kinda heartbreaking to see a celebrity in such a state. We are too used to glamour and success that we forget that less fortunate exsist

    • @BarraLibre
      @BarraLibre 3 роки тому +28

      Why? Its honest money. Hes not stealing or dealing. I dislike this new tendency to shit on peoole making money online. If its legal go for it.

    • @StRanGerManY
      @StRanGerManY 3 роки тому +9

      @@BarraLibre Are you alright in the head? Who do you even reply to? I don't see anyone "shiting on him" here in this thread. The only one shitting is you, yourself, here

    • @qasperr994
      @qasperr994 3 роки тому +7

      The T-800 getting old fits with everything they set up in the original films. Turning it into a pussy fits with what's going on in the real world.

  • @A.M.19958
    @A.M.19958 3 роки тому +95

    I personally think that some old movies are legendary + shouldn't have a remake...
    😌

    • @damnyejustgotbewitchedbyth2802
      @damnyejustgotbewitchedbyth2802 3 роки тому +1

      Producers just want the cash the originals made to their makers

    • @MrDevious88
      @MrDevious88 3 роки тому +2

      Movies should remain a product of their specific time and place, and should stay there. Revisiting them never works out well.

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 3 роки тому +1

      i agree
      T1 and T2 , Period.
      like Alien and Aliens, Period.

  • @Bluecheese1400
    @Bluecheese1400 2 роки тому +14

    Arnold’s ego got the best of him. I remembered when he charged so much just to voice a couple lines in a movie. The directors then switched up and asked Sylvester Stallone took the role and voiced the lines and he did it.. FOR FREE. Love you Sylvester Stallone, what a humble man.

  • @Mortiz21
    @Mortiz21 3 роки тому +34

    Man it was sad seeing Edward Furlong in this video.

  • @bjrnhalfhand2258
    @bjrnhalfhand2258 3 роки тому +84

    Huh I never noticed the subtle differences in Arnold's movements as the Terminator from 1/2 to 3 but I can totally see it now.
    I did notice the difference in weight and strength from 1/2 to 3 and that always bugged me.

    • @Vaporvice84
      @Vaporvice84 3 роки тому +23

      Oh you forgot the scene in 3 when the medic tried to lift him up and says "This guy weighs a ton!!". The motorcycle Arnold rode a minute later didn't have any problems with it. Good writing there lol.

    • @_Only_Zuul
      @_Only_Zuul 3 роки тому

      it perhals could have been better if created that the T-800 endoskeleton metal was light weight and super high strength near indestructible like adamantium, and since a terminator is supposed to be able to blend in with humans it make more sense that his total bodyweight is close to that of a human or arnold himself of his height 6ft 2 so like 220-250lbs range.. even 300lbs but i beleive arnold was never that heavy.. for a terminator though it's not a stretch.. i'm not sure what kind of weight they are implying suggesting he has in the movies or novelizations?? 500lbs+???

    • @TheJohnnyCotts
      @TheJohnnyCotts 3 роки тому +4

      That could easily be explained away as the difference between a T-800 (1 & 2) and a T-850 (T3).

    • @dianabarnett6886
      @dianabarnett6886 3 роки тому +5

      Really? I noticed that immediately, and it was so jarring. He went from this cold, efficient, stoic killing machine to herky jerky, and I hated it.

    • @bulanet271
      @bulanet271 3 роки тому +4

      I didn't realize it either, must be because I didn't see 3 nearly as many times as 1/2. And yeah, the strength of the terminators in the sequels is way over the top and unrealistic, one of those somewhat subtle things adding to the "I can't really pin point why the sequels suck", but now I know better

  • @timothynordgren2673
    @timothynordgren2673 3 роки тому +113

    That japanese commercial was a new experience for me. Wtf did i just witness? Great video as always!

    • @noless
      @noless 3 роки тому +9

      @Timothy Nordgren Arnold did several of them in the late 80s. You can find them here on youtube.

    • @Ammoniumbicarbonat
      @Ammoniumbicarbonat 3 роки тому +8

      Reminded me of Ichiban: Lipstick for Men

    • @Z3AL316
      @Z3AL316 3 роки тому

      What Japanese commercial?

    • @Z3AL316
      @Z3AL316 3 роки тому +2

      Never mind....I.... I saw it.....idk what to do

    • @phdonme1
      @phdonme1 3 роки тому +3

      Very, Mr Freeze esque...

  • @gilly25th
    @gilly25th 3 роки тому +47

    I like in the first one when she see’s him rise after being shot with a shotgun and later when Kyle Reese tells her how he can’t be bargained with. The first two Terminators are so nostalgic for me.

    • @cyberdemon7694
      @cyberdemon7694 3 роки тому +14

      Because they're actually good movies. They don't need references and context to be understood, you just put it on and it's awesome to watch.

  • @filmandpage1138
    @filmandpage1138 3 роки тому +135

    Another problem with this movie series. Is that the first one told the end of the story. The final battle between humans and machines would not be decided in the future, but here in the present. T2 as good of a movie as it was did stretch it. So anything after that is just pointless.

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 роки тому +12

      Yeah T2 was already past the limit that one could stretch that premise. The Terminator is a complete story on its own... T2 is great but it does break the premise slightly.

    • @InhabitantOfOddworld
      @InhabitantOfOddworld 3 роки тому +4

      Tbh, any narrative that relies on time travel is already pretty fucked.
      Usually, changing the past is relegated to the action of a reboot. See Days Of Future Past.
      Beyond that, it usually functions in a way that the past technically isn't changed. See Avengers Endgame or Prisoner Of Azkaban.
      But Terminator made a big mistake by constantly fucking around with the narrative from square one.

    • @JohnWilliams-wl9px
      @JohnWilliams-wl9px 3 роки тому +3

      @@InhabitantOfOddworld yeah the first movie replies on time being in a constant loop so nothing you do actually matters because it’s all predetermined.
      Only for 2 to say no you can change the past.
      3 says certain events are destined to happen one way of another. Such changing them only delayed things

  • @MindEyeMediaVR
    @MindEyeMediaVR 3 роки тому +18

    The moment the appeal of the Terminator franchise centered around the star power of Schwarzenegger, it was inevitable that the franchise's popularity would fade along with Schwarzenegger's popularity. Personally, I think that the best Terminator sequels didn't involve Schwarzenegger at all: Salvation and the Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series.

    • @baabaaer
      @baabaaer 3 роки тому +1

      I could never move on from Sarah Connor Chronicles

    • @rahiemturner9504
      @rahiemturner9504 11 місяців тому

      @@baabaaerIt’s a shame it got cancelled

  • @L1LegoAnimations
    @L1LegoAnimations 3 роки тому +41

    If you want a good Terminator entry past T2, look up the Terminator: Resistance game. It's a bit short, and the combat isn't as fluid as many other first person shooters of today, but it's totally worth a playthrough. I loved it.

    • @TheRichieEffect
      @TheRichieEffect 2 роки тому +4

      i really enjoyed it. always felt outmatched by the machines

    • @peepachu
      @peepachu 6 місяців тому

      The Sarah Connor Chronicles was a phenomenal addition to the Terminator franchise but it was killed off before it could build a solid audience.

  • @jacemachine
    @jacemachine 3 роки тому +35

    I gave up watching Terminator movies after the Christian Bale one.

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx 3 роки тому +2

      It was worth it for his rant.

    • @Inactive968
      @Inactive968 3 роки тому +6

      I stopped after T2 to save myself from the pain.

    • @joshuagraham2843
      @joshuagraham2843 3 роки тому +1

      salvation was good but i stopped watching after genisys

    • @bulanet271
      @bulanet271 3 роки тому +1

      I guess that's a good thing, as 5 and 6 can totally be skipped

  • @jwnj9716
    @jwnj9716 3 роки тому +133

    Most of the sequels just want to be T2 with Arnie being the good terminator. Just go back to the original and give us that slasher type feel to it or do the future war like T4 but with that Cameron future look which was missing in T4.
    T3 was 50/50 and T4 was decent. I don't care for 5 & 6. Remember the Terminator destroying an entire police station in the first one? Well, here he is in part 5 smiling with the song bad boys bad boys....eh. Arnie coming back to every Terminator movie doesn't mean anything anymore. As well as Cameron, "oh part 5 is great" and then "oh its horrible, part 6 is the good one". The guy is so busy working on Avatar sequels that nobody wants. I miss the 80s Cameron.

    • @NitroNEXT
      @NitroNEXT 3 роки тому +17

      Skydance Media have been the major problem. They're bad stewards for the franchise and keep pushing it in a misguided and unoriginal direction, all they can do is chase trends and make nostalgia-driven movies. The Halcyon Company at least tried to explore the future war concept and try new things before they went bankrupt. At this point, they have to ditch Cameron and Arnold and completely reinvent it. There's no fixing the mess that Skydance has created, and there's no more "this is the REAL T2 sequel!" because they shamelessly played that card and squandered it too.

    • @jwnj9716
      @jwnj9716 3 роки тому +7

      @@NitroNEXT I'm really tired of hearing "this is the true sequel" like Halloween 2018. It was just ok, H2 will always be the true sequel.

    • @daveruda
      @daveruda 3 роки тому +2

      What if Terminator Genysis was a movie about being chased by young Arnold T-800 and a T1000 like its set up in the beginning. How scary it could have been?

    • @adventurekitty1016
      @adventurekitty1016 3 роки тому +2

      I've been wanting an Avatar sequel since I saw the movie in 2010 I believe. I had so many questions. Are the humans coming back? Will there be another war? What happened after Jake became a Na"vi?

    • @robgreive3657
      @robgreive3657 3 роки тому +2

      @@adventurekitty1016
      So you're the one! 😉
      I'm waiting for the trailer to drop for 'Avatar 2' and hope to go see it in a cinema (if it doesn't look too woke.)
      Cameron has delivered two of the all time best sequels (and movies) in 'Aliens' and T2 so I won't dismiss his 'Avatar' sequels out of hand yet.. 🤞

  • @homelessjesse9453
    @homelessjesse9453 3 роки тому +41

    I'd say endless unnecessary sequels killed the franchise.

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 роки тому +2

      I disagree. T2 is a categorically unnecessary sequel. the first movie told a complete story; a closed time loop. But almost everyone agrees that T2 is awesome.

    • @homelessjesse9453
      @homelessjesse9453 3 роки тому +2

      @@trequor Good point. The 1984 movie was allegedly based off an episode from the old Outer Limits.

  • @magicjohnson3121
    @magicjohnson3121 3 роки тому +65

    I had hope for Terminator Salvation but then it didn’t feel like the future scenes in T1 or T2. Not even close.

    • @billyjacobs190
      @billyjacobs190 3 роки тому +3

      That was problem with it. Blue isn't tan.

    • @mechajay3358
      @mechajay3358 3 роки тому

      It went in a completely different direction.

    • @coreygraham860
      @coreygraham860 3 роки тому +2

      Salvation seemed like it was more inspired by Mad Max than the Terminator series.

    • @daveruda
      @daveruda 3 роки тому +6

      Salvation wasnt the same thing as the flashbacks. It was earlier in the war.. Weird choice. BUT they did make T-800 a cunning killer again.

    • @coreygraham860
      @coreygraham860 3 роки тому +5

      @@daveruda Was he really cunning though? The T--800 repeatedly threw Connor across the room when he could've just ripped his heart out.

  • @BerserkerCade77
    @BerserkerCade77 3 роки тому +18

    I always loved when Arnold would say “Uzi 9 millimeter”. I don’t know why. Austrian accent probably.

  • @TaiWoodz
    @TaiWoodz 3 роки тому +21

    The first “The Terminator” film was a freakin’ slasher. Debate me.

    • @NeptuneNoire
      @NeptuneNoire 3 роки тому +9

      We can't debate with facts. That's what made T1 so great, essentially a horror movie with bits of sci-fi through out.

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 роки тому +2

      Obviously lol. One can see John Carpenter all over that movie... it's almost like a wholly original homage to him. It also solved a lot of the problems of "the supernatural killer". How does he keep getting back up after being beaten and shot? He's an android. Why does he walk slowly towards his victims, expressionless and silent? Because he's an android who is just wearing human flesh. In a sense, The Terminator is the perfect slasher movie that embraces the tropes of the genre as its core premise.

    • @bulanet271
      @bulanet271 3 роки тому

      That is why it's my favorite in the series. As a kid though, while intrigued by the premises of horror movies, I would be terrified for a couple weeks after watching one, as if the villain was gonna appear in my house and grab me; so I don't think it was my favorite then, not that I didn't like it but was too busy being scared to enjoy it

    • @serenitymoon825
      @serenitymoon825 3 роки тому

      My fiance and I both agree that Brad Fidel made a scifi horror soundtrack with synth and sledgehammers hit against cast iron and did it beautifully

    • @JohnDoe-xu6uu
      @JohnDoe-xu6uu 3 роки тому +2

      T1 definitely has horror movie vibes with a pinch of Sci-Fi action. = CLASSIC

  • @iusedtowrite6667
    @iusedtowrite6667 3 роки тому +15

    Terminator Salvation had potential. They could've taken the series in a whole new direction with that movie. Shame they went back to the copy and paste formula after it.

  • @DwayneHicks426
    @DwayneHicks426 3 роки тому +18

    Even Peter Weller knew when to stop.

    • @lewiskazinsky7334
      @lewiskazinsky7334 3 роки тому +9

      Love that. Arnie’s in an intervention and gets shown Peter Weller just chilling in a voice acting booth; Arnie finally breaks down into tears and admits he has a debilitating sequel problem

    • @DwayneHicks426
      @DwayneHicks426 3 роки тому

      @@lewiskazinsky7334
      He went from "I'll be back" to "OWWW, MY BACK!"

    • @DwayneHicks426
      @DwayneHicks426 3 роки тому

      @Venny Thornton really?
      You have my curiosity.
      So in a way the game isn't "canon" to the franchise, I'm sure the name is copyright, doe he at least get royalties from sales?

  • @jeffdonoho2448
    @jeffdonoho2448 3 роки тому +15

    The comic book adaptation was definitely better in regards to how the terminators got their fleshy shell. There were flesh farms, where they kept humans they captured, to harvest. So, every terminator used to be a person, sort of.

    • @JohnWilliams-wl9px
      @JohnWilliams-wl9px 3 роки тому +2

      Salvations basically hinted that how it worked since they kept kidnapping humans for the T-800

    • @treceslez
      @treceslez 2 роки тому +3

      @@JohnWilliams-wl9px And in T2 we actually saw (albeit for just one scene) a T-800 not looking like Arnold, which would suggest every T-800 had a different face. And it would make sense, how is the T-800 an infiltration machine but they all look the same? It kind of defeats the purpose.

  • @Knuck_Knucks
    @Knuck_Knucks 3 роки тому +21

    The state of that poor John Conner kid is sadddddddd...

  • @NitroNEXT
    @NitroNEXT 3 роки тому +37

    Very cathartic seeing someone dismantle T3. I'm so tired of people in recent years defending it with nostalgia bias. I too noticed the awkward Arnold performance in that movie as well as the weird framing at times, it really exposed him in a negative light. Cameron knew how to protect his actors.

    • @HonestObserver
      @HonestObserver Рік тому

      They made John Connor into a bitch. Like they could've turned him into a burnout and addict, so long as he retained a sense of the rebellion of kid Connor and a spark of potential of future Resistance leader Connor, but he was just a loser drifter nobody!

  • @basteagui
    @basteagui 3 роки тому +6

    in my head that japanese commercial is canon, they reprogrammed the terminator to make tv ads in tokyo

  • @dirtyharry1844
    @dirtyharry1844 3 роки тому +7

    Under Cameron,every move the Terminator does was carefully planned.On the sequels he simply jerks his head and body around like Robocop under directive 4.

  • @UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart
    @UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart 3 роки тому +17

    More like how Terminator's Fame killed the Schwarzenegger Franchise

  • @ModernDayGunSlinger
    @ModernDayGunSlinger 3 роки тому +33

    It's a shame, but it is true that Arnold was instrumental in ruining the franchise. Everyone's in it for the money. Considering Arnold's desire to always be the hero, and his penchant for comedy, the downfall of Terminator becomes more understandable. It doesn't help that all studios want to copy the Marvel formula in regards to its comedy, and that there just needs to be certain quotas that have to be met for PC reasons. The idea of a compelling story slowly becomes a forgone thing.
    The Terminator franchise truly ended with T2. They had made their own fate, a new fate in which Judgement Day was cancelled. It sucks that the episodic blockbuster is the future, if not already the present, of film. One last thing, I bet you that Arnold will reprise his role as the terminator in the next movie even after his death thanks to advancing technology.

    • @magicjohnson3121
      @magicjohnson3121 3 роки тому +2

      I hate that Marvel smug wink at the camera humour. They might as well just suck their own dick on camera.

    • @GothicXlightning
      @GothicXlightning 3 роки тому +1

      also another thing that it did not helped T3 was him taking away over half of the budget after demanding all that ridiculous amount of money
      fuckig arnold is like the WORST kind of Terminator fan
      another reason why T4 said screw you arnold and added a CG T-800
      i will always respect that about salvation
      it did NOT needed Arnold in it

    • @ModernDayGunSlinger
      @ModernDayGunSlinger 3 роки тому

      @@GothicXlightning Yes, it is totally ridiculous how much actors can demand for their roles in a movie, and even more so how much studios are willing to give in to these demands.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 3 роки тому

      Then he'll _really_ be a machine!

  • @jmalmsten
    @jmalmsten 3 роки тому +38

    So... Are we going to see Eddy Furlong show up in a bunch of youtube channels like Macaulay Culkin?
    I mean. I would love to hear him talk about working with Uwe Boll and such. I'll wait and see if he shows up in Half in the Bag.

    • @joshuaewalker
      @joshuaewalker 3 роки тому +14

      Macaulay Culkin is weird but generally has his shit together. Edward furlong, on the other hand, is in basically Charlie Sheen territory; not going to be seeing him on RLM anytime soon.

  • @michaelboyes5849
    @michaelboyes5849 3 роки тому +37

    I hate to offer any excuse for T3, but if you wanted to be generous, you could argue that maybe the T-850 was like the Windows Vista to Windows XP's T-800.
    So Skynet added "Enhanced Personality Subroutines" which just made the model buggy and less effective.

    • @giovannigiovanni.7220
      @giovannigiovanni.7220 3 роки тому +7

      He could lie too.
      Arnold: *I LIED*

    • @DoctorDex
      @DoctorDex 3 роки тому +8

      Never thought of it like that, but it's a pretty good analogy. Like the Atari 5200 to the more successful 2600.

    • @ressljs
      @ressljs 3 роки тому +1

      The Sarah Connor Chronicles had the same idea. The "Triple Eight" terminators were essentially like the T-800's physically, but they were much better at psychology and imitating humans.

  • @SezarOroo
    @SezarOroo Рік тому +5

    Yes yes, we can't upset the fans. Hello Star Wars, Star Trek, Dune, Matrix, Alien, LOTR / Tolkin, Predator, Starship Troopers, Robocop, Batman, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, X men, Fantastic Four, The Hulk, Hellboy, Conan the Barbarian, Rocky, James Bond, Pirates of the Caribbean, Mulan, The Lion King and the last 20 years.

  • @thewickedwanderer
    @thewickedwanderer 3 роки тому +32

    Terminator in the Wild West. Arnold’s bad again. Sara and John go back in time to start a religion “we hate skynet” and Arnold shows up. - there Hollywood can I have a million dollars

    • @TheDevilmayfart
      @TheDevilmayfart 3 роки тому

      Will you take an ice cream 🍨 instead?

    • @thewickedwanderer
      @thewickedwanderer 3 роки тому

      @@TheDevilmayfart nah maybe a new car

    • @TheDevilmayfart
      @TheDevilmayfart 3 роки тому +1

      @@thewickedwanderer ok here you go 🚗 enjoy and don't forget to wear your seatbelt

    • @thewickedwanderer
      @thewickedwanderer 3 роки тому

      @@TheDevilmayfart oh thanks!

    • @joshuaewalker
      @joshuaewalker 3 роки тому +4

      Terminator v T-Rex: Dawn of Jurassic World: The Lost World: The Reckoning: Rise of the DinoBots 3D 8K HFR HDR ATMOS

  • @leejohnstone2285
    @leejohnstone2285 3 роки тому +2

    My oldest daughter and her boyfriend rewrote the Dyson house scene from T2. Dyson's wife is actually the T-1000. The way they wrote the scene gives you a awesome jump scare which you don't see coming

  • @NukaCola514
    @NukaCola514 3 роки тому +10

    Arnold in Japanese commercials is the best thing ever 😂

  • @OnlyRoke
    @OnlyRoke 3 роки тому +24

    I think there could have been a real chance to make Arnold relevant to the Terminator world in a way that isn't endlessly rehashed T-800s.
    There should have been a Future Movie (like T4) that introduces Arnold Schwarzenegger as a human character (let's call him Jack Miller). The entire story should've been around Jack being this incredibly badass ex-soldier who survived the initial apocalypse and, together with John Connor, established the resistance against the Machines. Connor would basically trust this guy literally because he looks exactly like the T-800 and it "has to mean" something. Long story short, Jack Miller dies heroically while dealing a crazy blow to the Machines and he becomes a sort of Proto Connor to humanity AND the machines. So them using his likeness for the T-800 model (the newest, upcoming model) would quite literally be a mockery of this man's sacrifice. One of the heroes of mankind coming back as a butcher of mankind. And obviously as a way to unnerve the steely mind of John Connor, because his best friend (who dies twice) comes back as a murder robot in the first place. And the machines would've sent back the T-800 in particular, because they're banking on the idea that it either kills Unborn Connor, or scars his mother SO much that she'd teach John to never trust a thing that looks like Jack Miller (and thus altering the course of history). And in return, Connor would send back a reprogrammed version of the T-800 to establish that trust between Jack Miller and John Connor.
    That way it would be a pathos-laden circle of events begetting events and the defeat of the Machines being an inevitability.

    • @blackcurtains4710
      @blackcurtains4710 3 роки тому +2

      Interesting timeloop idea but this was actually a thing in the original cut of Terminator Salvation which didn't make it to the final film- after negative test-audience feedback to the interwoven man and machine angle in a workprint.

    • @Inactive968
      @Inactive968 3 роки тому +2

      That's such a cool idea god damn.

    • @Skull1Hunter
      @Skull1Hunter 3 роки тому +2

      OnlyRoke Damn. That's way more genius than anything post T2.

  • @JohnnyDollar720
    @JohnnyDollar720 3 роки тому +5

    Damn, I never noticed the T1000 and Terminator never spoke to each other in T2. Just blew my mind lol. Great video man

    • @coreygraham860
      @coreygraham860 3 роки тому +5

      They did over the phone when the T800 was impersonating Connor and the T1000 was impersonating his foster mother.

    • @ExecutionStyleInc
      @ExecutionStyleInc 3 роки тому +3

      @@coreygraham860 Damn the 1 time they speak to each other they don't even use their actual default voices.

  • @ninjaswordtothehead
    @ninjaswordtothehead 3 роки тому +2

    The thing that destroyed the Terminator franchise is what is destroying all of Hollywood; pure, unadulterated greed.

  • @ConfusedReviews
    @ConfusedReviews 3 роки тому +7

    Sums up the decline of the series brilliantly. Really a shame they took a horror slasher turned action blockbuster... and turned it into a complete disaster...

  • @F1REWOLFSA
    @F1REWOLFSA 3 роки тому +4

    Terminator Salvation is criminally underrated. It always should have been the part 3 in the franchise and focused on Kyle Reese but for once we actually got to see what happens when Skynet attack and what the human resistance is trying to achieve. Even if it has the weird forgettable Sam Worthington plot in it.

  • @kyne2692
    @kyne2692 3 роки тому +11

    Cords, you've mentioned that the channel ain't doing so well, try doing more community posts. TheSpiffingBrit has a video on breaking youtube, and in it he discusses how to use community tabs to reach more people than just your target audience, which leads to channel growth

  • @william5361
    @william5361 3 роки тому +42

    Terminator: Genysis humor is terrible, but it’s about as bad as your average Marvel movie.

    • @ressljs
      @ressljs 3 роки тому +4

      Like most people, I didn't like Genysis (although I didn't hate it either). But one thing I did like was the reimagining of Skynet. While it was disappointing, I thought there was hope of a follow up actually being good based on the Skynet setup.

    • @manolgeorgiev9664
      @manolgeorgiev9664 3 роки тому +1

      So basically, right up my alley

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 роки тому +3

      Except it's not nearly as smart or well written... which is REALLY saying something!

    • @heathjames6733
      @heathjames6733 3 роки тому +2

      Hell give Marvel more credit than that

    • @Cythil
      @Cythil 3 роки тому +1

      I did not even read it as a attempt at humour. Maybe it was for the better... >_>

  • @joshuaewalker
    @joshuaewalker 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant video! Got the notification over 7 hours ago when it premiered. First thing I watched when I got a chance to get on UA-cam.

  • @kinjapleb4228
    @kinjapleb4228 3 роки тому +12

    In my opinion, the greatest part of any of the Terminator sequels after T2 was the opening scene of Genisys. It basically gave the fans what they asked, even if it was for like 5 minutes. It's too bad that everyone was so terribly miscast in Genisys. Genisys had elements I liked, but goddam did it do so many things wrong.

    • @joshuaewalker
      @joshuaewalker 3 роки тому

      But that recast Sarah Conner's ass doe

  • @muznick
    @muznick 3 роки тому +11

    That ad at 4:40 is hilarious. Arnold laughing like that sounds like an out take from Total Recall.

  • @rikmills
    @rikmills 3 роки тому +31

    Congrats on the Edward Furlong shoutout, that's awesome!

  • @ZzombieCrotch
    @ZzombieCrotch 3 роки тому

    You find the most random clips and ads I love them so much. That Arnold Japanese ad killed me

  • @Tlducken
    @Tlducken 3 роки тому +4

    Great video. It's pretty sad to see the deterioration of Arnold's character like this. The Terminator is one of my top 10 favorites, and T2 is a perfect sequel with a perfect ending. Would have been great if someone found away (and got the money) to just make a movie in the same universe but with completely new characters. Cameron created a great world and it has so many possibilities.

  • @willythepeachfacelovebird
    @willythepeachfacelovebird 3 роки тому +6

    Blame Stallone for demanding 12m for Over The Top.
    They pretty much priced themselves out of the market in the end.

  • @SlothWolfen
    @SlothWolfen 3 роки тому

    Leaving a comment to raise engagement, but also to say that I fkn love this channel and every time a video of yours drops into my feed it makes my day!

  • @deadrock1678
    @deadrock1678 3 роки тому +2

    Every Terminator movie was about arnold which led the downfall of the franchise.
    The first movie was NOT about him, it was about Reese and Sarah, but Arnold was the most popular charachter in the movie, so they made T-2 which WAS about him though not fully, but you start to see it in 3 5 and 6. They had to let him go and make new creative stories.

  • @milesium-487
    @milesium-487 3 роки тому +12

    "We can't make a FULL reboot cause that'll piss off the fanbase"
    *laughs in Godzilla movie franchise*

  • @RogueReplicant
    @RogueReplicant 3 роки тому +4

    There is only one masterpiece that will stand the test of time: "The Terminator" (1984) directed by James Cameron.

  • @christianscott3116
    @christianscott3116 3 роки тому

    Can’t tell you how refreshing it is to see you post a video essay

  • @josephwojtkowiak3555
    @josephwojtkowiak3555 3 роки тому

    I hope your channel isn't dead. you give top class video reviews!

  • @TheRedCapesClan
    @TheRedCapesClan 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you. T1 was always my favorite and would've preferred if Arnold didn't come back unless he was the bad guy again. I thought I was the only one that thinks that T1 > T2 and villain T-800 > hero T-800.

  • @wormskull2454
    @wormskull2454 3 роки тому +4

    I can appreciate what Salvation tried to do. I remember before T3 came out all I had wanted for years was a Cameron future war film. Despite it not being directed by him, I went on opening day. The second I saw the POV shot of the missile flying over fiends of green grass & trees with the sun shining overhead I was over it. I’ve always assumed that Cameron envisioned 2029 AD to be permanently dark outside due to the fallout blocking out the sun. Maybe those scenes in T1 & T2 WERE during daylight hours ya know? I don’t want a pretty summer day in my nightmarish hell of a post apocalyptic future, it’s sooo much scarier that way!

  • @John-Doe-Yo
    @John-Doe-Yo 3 роки тому

    Subbed, can’t wait for the dark fate video

  • @grahamfarmer4167
    @grahamfarmer4167 3 роки тому +1

    My man where you been ?! Missed these videos

  • @darkwoods1954
    @darkwoods1954 3 роки тому +5

    The series insistence on dragging an ever aging Arnie out every time is deff holding the series back. Past part 2 it doesn't make sense to have the same Terminator skin used over and over. Feeling they have to have him say 'I'll be back'' just seems cheesy now. That and the constant repeat of the time travel story which was done after part 2 has really stagnated the franchise.

  • @gunja556
    @gunja556 3 роки тому +17

    Honestly i think the terminator franchise just needs to die if the best they can do after T2 is dark fate

    • @josesosa3337
      @josesosa3337 3 роки тому

      Yep.

    • @josesosa3337
      @josesosa3337 3 роки тому +2

      Its sad becuase this universe can tell interesting stories but how far can you go for this concept?

  • @GiubileiFernando
    @GiubileiFernando 3 роки тому +1

    I didn't mind that much the Terminators from 3 forward having some personality or growing into a person, because it was kind of established in T2 that if you actually socialized them they could change, the extended cut even confirms that they have to be blocked from learning by Skynet or they can just learn to like humans. And the T-1000 was already established in the lore as being so advanced that it scared Skynet, being probably too close to the capabilities of Skynet itself.

  • @andylebusque2643
    @andylebusque2643 3 роки тому

    Great video mate. As always

  • @Vaporvice84
    @Vaporvice84 3 роки тому +4

    When you joke about how the T-800 and T-850 are the same, you forgot the most important (and the most stupid) thing. It has an explosive device inside of it, which of course would be used to kill the T-X at the end. Lazy writing 101. The same suggestion people always say "Why didn't they just send back a bomb?". Even John suggests it in T2 lmao.

  • @tommarvel9442
    @tommarvel9442 3 роки тому +5

    The Sarah Connor Chronicles didn't have Arnie in it, and had some great storytelling that developed the franchise in a new, interesting direction... before FOX then cancelled it. Sigh.

    • @supoa9489
      @supoa9489 3 роки тому +1

      Heck Terminator DF took some elements from the show

    • @khaleelurrahman248
      @khaleelurrahman248 Рік тому

      @@supoa9489 1 of the producers also worked on both the show and the movie

  • @randomsam949
    @randomsam949 3 роки тому

    Loving these videos! Some proper, detailed love for my fave ever films and some intelligent, brutal slayings of the shite that followed. Keep it up good sir!
    Any chance you can look at the duel crappening of MIB and Kingsmen ?? From instant classic first outings to needless, greedy sequels that turned both into cartoons, wrecked powerful arcs bringing back finished mentors, and went nowhere interesting?

  • @ToonamiT0M
    @ToonamiT0M 3 роки тому

    Great video!
    Quality content like this is why I became a Patron.

  • @remliqa
    @remliqa 3 роки тому +3

    The new Planet Of The Apes movies were the very few time a reboot measure up to the original. I'm not sure is the 1982 The Thing, 1983 Scarface or the multitude of A Star is Born movies counts as reboots , though.

    • @cordzfx
      @cordzfx  3 роки тому +6

      Yeah I love those new Planet of the Apes movies... they were TOO good in fact hence why War bombed at the cinemas. Also, remakes from the 70s-80s are different compared to todays reboots. Back then it was to take an older story and update it with a new point of view... now it's "people will pay to see the new one because they remember the old one"

  • @martinlynn4733
    @martinlynn4733 3 роки тому +17

    What killed the franchise was crap scripts woke directors and dark fate which was just pure shit water

    • @giovannigiovanni.7220
      @giovannigiovanni.7220 3 роки тому +2

      Thoughts on the Sarah Connor Chronicles.

    • @martinlynn4733
      @martinlynn4733 3 роки тому

      @@giovannigiovanni.7220 It's not as good as it could of been

    • @joshuaewalker
      @joshuaewalker 3 роки тому +2

      @@giovannigiovanni.7220
      Shouldn't have been canceled! The actors were great in that show; loved them all.

    • @giovannigiovanni.7220
      @giovannigiovanni.7220 3 роки тому +2

      @@joshuaewalker Excatly.

    • @joshuaewalker
      @joshuaewalker 3 роки тому

      @@giovannigiovanni.7220
      I swear every show with Summer Glau in it is like my favorite show and then it gets canceled. That girl can't catch a break.

  • @DeanWhipper
    @DeanWhipper Рік тому +1

    We need you back Cordz, we need your 10/10 amazing content!

  • @derekedwards5390
    @derekedwards5390 3 роки тому

    Awesome video an that Edward Furlong cameo was fucking awesome I love that guy!! This channel definitely deserves way more attention and subscriber's 🦇👻🦇

  • @DiabloTommaso
    @DiabloTommaso 3 роки тому +5

    Well Arnold just took Cameron s advice very well and over and over again

  • @alejandrovillalba3143
    @alejandrovillalba3143 3 роки тому +4

    Fun fact: you said T2's John Connor was essentially Bart Simpson and the terminator in that movie was played as a sort of father figure. Well, the guy who made the latino voice of that T2's terminator is also the guy who made the Latino voice of Homer Simpsons: Humberto Velez. So there is a weird connection going on here 🤔

    • @electricblue8196
      @electricblue8196 Рік тому

      lol, I can't unsee this...imagining Bart Simpson teaching the Terminator to "Don't have a cow man", "Eat my shorts" etc..

  • @shazbort
    @shazbort 3 роки тому +2

    I wasn't expecting to see eddie furlong, Great video!

  • @saturnianrings3920
    @saturnianrings3920 3 роки тому +2

    Does anyone know where “that I’m a stud” clip comes from?

  • @SaRENRampaiger
    @SaRENRampaiger 3 роки тому +13

    Think I'm in the minority of actually liking T3 and hated the rest of the fanfiction.. Hmm.
    I actually liked the Sarah Connor series. That was the epilogue of Dark Fate for me.

    • @NeptuneNoire
      @NeptuneNoire 3 роки тому +2

      The TV show was honestly great since it wasn't weighed down by Arnold's presence, and they could explore more lore.

  • @Leechwife
    @Leechwife 3 роки тому +14

    The Golden Age IS over.
    Enough said, gonna go cry in the corner.

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 3 роки тому

      When one age falls another begins... you can't break the cycle, everyone knows that, if there was no new golden age for a lot of things falling the precipice we wouldn't be were we are today as of now.

  • @luke_9411
    @luke_9411 3 роки тому

    Excellent video. Always enjoy them. Thank you for the hard work. And sorry about UA-cam’s bullsh*t algorithm...

  • @BlackDrumKD
    @BlackDrumKD 3 роки тому +1

    Lmao that intro with Arnold is hilarious I can't believe he was my states governor 😂 🤣

  • @ConMag-Fhionnghaile
    @ConMag-Fhionnghaile 3 роки тому +3

    Why do most terminator reviews forget about Sarah Connor Chronicles? It was the perfect continuation from Terminator 2.

  • @funboy4809
    @funboy4809 3 роки тому +2

    The Terminator 1 and 2 are the best, ever will be...

  • @cvlo3848
    @cvlo3848 Рік тому +1

    I had tears coming out of my eyes because I was laughing so hard at the Genisys comedy reel. I couldn't agree more with everything you've said here. After T2 it all went downhill.

  • @biffbamboo
    @biffbamboo 3 роки тому +2

    I know now why they call it a franchise. But it is something I can never do.
    The first one was a surprise hit. The second one is arguably the finest action film ever made.
    And then James Cameron moved on.

  • @jsavak99
    @jsavak99 3 роки тому +4

    Terminator Salvation had a good concept, Bale was good in the role. The special effects were great but again the story and miscasting was the reason for its failure.

    • @IdealUser
      @IdealUser 3 роки тому +1

      Like someone else said, parts of it felt like a Transformer/Mad Max movie instead of the T2 version of the future we know.

    • @jsavak99
      @jsavak99 3 роки тому

      @@IdealUser had such high hopes for it bc Bale was the star attached to that project. Ah it could have resurrected the franxhise had they only had a better story.

    • @IdealUser
      @IdealUser 3 роки тому

      @@jsavak99 It's still my favorite out of the post-T2 sequels. Focusing on the Future War is the right direction.

  • @cardinalStiefel
    @cardinalStiefel 3 роки тому +4

    With Terminator Salvation, they had the brilliant idea to set the movie in the future and follow John Connor and the rebellion. Unfortunately it was such a terrible movie, it killed the planned sequels and convinced the producer to stick to the "Arnold in the present" formula. McG is the real villain :D

    • @LorenHelgeson
      @LorenHelgeson Рік тому +2

      I think you're giving McG way too much credit here. Hiring on a director whose only directing credits at the time were "We Are Marshall" and both Charlie's Angels films? For a TERMINATOR movie? Solid work there, nameless Hollywood execs. He also didn't write the script or have sole control over what ended up on the cutting room floor.

  • @binge-man2556
    @binge-man2556 3 роки тому

    The Terminator franchise is like a novelty item without the uniqueness now.
    Great video Cordery. Would love to see a video about Alien franchise from you. Have a good one, mate.

  • @cask82
    @cask82 3 роки тому

    Love that you went through the films, but would have been nice to have added in the old Universal Terminator attraction ride. That one really needed to be explained.

  • @mr.goblin6039
    @mr.goblin6039 3 роки тому +9

    Salvation wasn’t that great, but man AT LEAST it wasn’t just T2 all over again. We saw more of the future, a lot of cool Terminators, the fact that Skynet had been experimenting with humans to create Terminators that could infiltrate human hideouts and John Connor was being the hero we kept hearing about and hoping he’d be. For all its flaws, cliches and messy pacing, Salvation actually delivered on giving us something different from the franchise instead of just T2 all over again. Another good Terminator sequel of sorts is the Sarah Connor Chronicles. It does the T2 thing as well, but it being a series helped it delve into the future world a lot more, explore a John Connor growing into the hero he would become and Sarah Connor being a badass and even going through her own character arc. It was a decent show.

    • @coreygraham860
      @coreygraham860 3 роки тому +2

      "John Connor growing into the hero he would become"
      One of things missing from T3. Nick Stahl's John Connor was just a taller T2 Connor with a little bit more cynicism. No character growth at all.

    • @GothicXlightning
      @GothicXlightning 3 роки тому

      i do fucking Adore Salvation man
      and i also admit is not perfect, but BILLLLLLLIONS and INFINITE times better and much more faithful than the real TRASH enemy that was false T5, T6

    • @jsavak99
      @jsavak99 3 роки тому +1

      Yes the Sarah Connor chronicles was well written and well cast for the most part . But as usual the good shows get canceled. Just shows you Tim Miller full of hot air about audience prejudice for a female leading character. If its well written with correct casting you will engage the audience. Lena Heady was great as Sarah Connor

  • @kurtcobain279489
    @kurtcobain279489 3 роки тому +3

    Honestly, I really dug Salvation, I thought it was a cool look into the future war against the machines, and I really wish they kept giving us more future war movies. Also I didn't hate Dark Fate, it was certainly better than Genesis and I appreciate them having the balls to kill off kid John Connor. The only thing I absolutely hated about that movie was the new Terminator they sent back, just felt like it was the weakest of the bunch and yet completely overpowered. Like c'mon, even the T-1000 wasn't indestructible and yet it still felt more like a threat than this mitosizing snoozer.

  • @Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
    @Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 7 місяців тому +1

    Terminator Salvation was the *only* one that at least tried to change the template and actually give the fans what they want. It was the only one that got close to being a decent T2 sequel in my opinion.

  • @alexakaa.charlesross8919
    @alexakaa.charlesross8919 3 роки тому +1

    Would love to see a Terminator movie go back to its horror roots. Like a chase movie with a couple of resistance fighters running from a T800 during the future war. Imagine a Terminator movie in the same vein as A Quiet Place.

  • @cyrbuzz6615
    @cyrbuzz6615 3 роки тому +9

    Becoming a liberal stooge didn’t help either.

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 роки тому +5

      Of all the problems with this franchise, that might be the least of them.

    • @greengamerguy623
      @greengamerguy623 3 роки тому +2

      People on both sides are stooges most of all people like you who chose a side and shit talk the other side you are a child

  • @kennethbowers2897
    @kennethbowers2897 3 роки тому +5

    We went from "I'll be back" to "Ow my back"
    People give Terminator salvation shit for being different as well as not including Arnold (officially). But I always like Salvation because it portrayed the early stages of the war, where the humans were still using ordinary firearms and skynet was still in it's infancy, using a combination of ordinary firearms and very few instances plasma weaponry, and early type Terminator models.

  • @xandermijares342
    @xandermijares342 Рік тому +2

    “Just remember…there’s no fate, but what we make, Sucka!!” - The Legendary Eddie Furlong

  • @Psilocybin77
    @Psilocybin77 3 роки тому +1

    I think I saw The Terminator when I was only 9 years old cause my parents ruled. I was both terrified and fascinated by the movie and it became an obsession. The Tech Noir scene is one of my favourite scenes ever filmed, and the song "Burning in the 3rd degree" by The Tryanglz is pure eighties magic. Everything after Terminator 2 is a crime against the original story.

    • @papaluego9507
      @papaluego9507 3 роки тому

      Yes, totally agreed. The vibes were just magic. When she drops the bottle and everything gets slow mo with the music on reverb. A nice sequel was possible. as we can see the 80s are still popular, add more (dark)synthwave, Arnold not needed, just a gripping story.