You want to get through a door. Walk in with a temp disability. like on a Crutch with a broken leg, and a bunch of bags. and if try and fumble to get inside. 95% of the time someone opens the door to let you in. I heard a talk on someone who specialized in Social Engineering. She got into the back part of a bank near the vault because she had a fake badge (looked okay) and a 'broken' arm and the other arm full of work stuff like a professional bag for work. He opened the door and let her in. She was part of a team hired to penetration test the bank, so was allowed from a legal sense as they were testing protocols etc.
Every time I think of social engineering, I think of when I had a conversation about theft with a gas station attendant while pocketing a drink. I didn't intend to steal it, and pulled it out to pay for it at the end, but it was an eye-opener on how easy and effective it can be. If I'd wanted to, it was as easy as "we're being friendly, so you don't see what I'm actually doing".
@@guard13007 When I worked at subway, I was taught about a scam people do with change; they give a large bill and when you hand them the change, they ask to break down something like this, never happened to me and don't remember the details, point being due to changing hands multiple times, they pocket a 20 or something.
Oh I think he seems like the most genuine and loveable guy (although I've never met him). I would just be somewhat intimidated by him because of the insane amount of talent and IQ he has 😂
The one call center I worked at had a great way to prevent revealing where our building is. "Don't tell them where you are, or they might drive a truck through the building." Because another branch acutally had that happen!
I work for a franchise and there was one time in our district where all the other locations were getting a call from the same number about how this guy's order was wrong and so-and-so told them that it'd get remade for free. It turns out that a female employee in the district had a customer that was stalking them, so she transferred to a different location in the city and this dude was trying to figure out where.
That's disgusting and really scary. But genuinely clever. Because of course you'd just say "Person X doesn't work here" and the fucker just does it until someone gets them on the phone.
I think social engineering is so interesting because it goes against the clichee of the hacker as this introverted shut-in that never talks to anyone. You mean to tell me that bold-faced lying, bluffing and *shudders* interacting with people is hacking, too? I thought you nerds got into computers so that you ~don't~ have to talk to people lmao
The funniest thing is that it's only in fiction that all hackers are introvert shutins. So much of hacking has always been social engineering since the beginning, but in movies and TV shows they separate the social engineering side into just con artists while the "hackers" are only on computers.
The thing is, hacking started amongst a group of highly intelligent individuals working together lol being a shut in, also doesn't mean you don't know how to function around people or can't, it just means your preference Is to not be around them. Also, as an individual that has is a "shut -in" and read alot of books, the "shut -in" trope in movies and cartoons comes from books, that came from authors that maybe didn't know anyone that could explain said character, and writing a character who doesn't have many interactions, means you don't need a cohesive story to explain how they got good at the thing you're trying to explain, but don't understand. Alot of what we experience today, comes from books lol
And for those of you who genuinely want to find a good restaurant, just take a hike through town on a Tuesday evening. If they can fill even half the seats on a Tuesday evening they're doing something right so that's gonna be your best bet.
What you don't realize is King of the Grimmlins over there Was social engineering the other 3 the entire time... how? Guy's got a mind like a steel trap so to speak... he remembers.
The key to defending yourself against social engineering: Never give any information (no matter how slight) that can be used to reveal your location at any given time or place(past, present, or future). Never give any information that can assist in identifying you. Never give any information about the company you work for or the work that you do that isn't already publicly available. If you're not sure if it's safe to talk about, assume that it isnt. I'm pretty sure thats basically it. It's not complicated, it just takes diligence.
Clever hackers like Thor make me feel so insecure (emotionally and professionally lol)... not to mention vulnerable and stupid in my everyday life. Love it.
thor: "im not competing in life this time guys, you can come to me for advice or guidance" thor: *becomes the most famous online personality of all time* (wins the internet) everyone: "god damnit he tricked us"
Yes it's been said (I'm sure) a thousand plus times, but Thor could quit this job and do movie trailer voice overs and make a killing. The man must have two sets of balls.
What do you mean there's a fucking convention called DefCon. Who's insane- "I just won DefCon 23" *DON'T JUST SAY THAT WITHOUT CONTEXT, THOR, JESUS CHRIST.*
Yeah, lying about something when you are presented as a trusted figure works the first time. Then your reputation is shot. So was the loss of your reputation with it?
@@crolaa6137 His social engineering "attack" involved him basically lying and using his standing within the community. 1. He said he was not participating in the competition. (lie 1) 2. He said that anyone that needed help can come visit him and he would help. (half truth. He did help those behind his team.) 3. He stole information from different teams and fed it to his team, while hindering the competition. (lie 2 and theft) So yeah. He destroyed his credibility within the community to win a competition.
@@TheSonnyGo It hinders any further attempts to help others. They will have to consider that he is being malicious with his words, or if he is being sincere.
@@thyowen It generally means having basic respect for other people, and acknowledging that people different from you exist. Most recently, acknowleding that gay or trans people exist will get you labeled "woke".
Social engineering is best described to me as, why steal the keys when you'll give them too me.
You want to get through a door. Walk in with a temp disability. like on a Crutch with a broken leg, and a bunch of bags. and if try and fumble to get inside. 95% of the time someone opens the door to let you in.
I heard a talk on someone who specialized in Social Engineering. She got into the back part of a bank near the vault because she had a fake badge (looked okay) and a 'broken' arm and the other arm full of work stuff like a professional bag for work. He opened the door and let her in. She was part of a team hired to penetration test the bank, so was allowed from a legal sense as they were testing protocols etc.
Every time I think of social engineering, I think of when I had a conversation about theft with a gas station attendant while pocketing a drink.
I didn't intend to steal it, and pulled it out to pay for it at the end, but it was an eye-opener on how easy and effective it can be. If I'd wanted to, it was as easy as "we're being friendly, so you don't see what I'm actually doing".
Why smash down the door when you could open it for me.
@@Zythan Crippled tailgating :D
@@guard13007 When I worked at subway, I was taught about a scam people do with change; they give a large bill and when you hand them the change, they ask to break down something like this, never happened to me and don't remember the details, point being due to changing hands multiple times, they pocket a 20 or something.
"It's fine, I promise" (evil smile) LOL
I worked with this guy for like 15 years, he's not as scary as he'd like you to believe :P (love you bird hair)
Oh I think he seems like the most genuine and loveable guy (although I've never met him). I would just be somewhat intimidated by him because of the insane amount of talent and IQ he has 😂
this is cute
"To be peaceful, you need to be capable of great violence. If you're not, you aren't peaceful. You are harmless."
The one call center I worked at had a great way to prevent revealing where our building is. "Don't tell them where you are, or they might drive a truck through the building." Because another branch acutally had that happen!
are you from Tampa FL perhaps? 🤔
@@ramsesiv5342 no
@@ramsesiv5342 nice try 🤣🤣
I work for a franchise and there was one time in our district where all the other locations were getting a call from the same number about how this guy's order was wrong and so-and-so told them that it'd get remade for free.
It turns out that a female employee in the district had a customer that was stalking them, so she transferred to a different location in the city and this dude was trying to figure out where.
That's disgusting and really scary. But genuinely clever. Because of course you'd just say "Person X doesn't work here" and the fucker just does it until someone gets them on the phone.
Its OK to talk to Thor, you might learn something.
Thor WILL learn something.
I think social engineering is so interesting because it goes against the clichee of the hacker as this introverted shut-in that never talks to anyone.
You mean to tell me that bold-faced lying, bluffing and *shudders* interacting with people is hacking, too?
I thought you nerds got into computers so that you ~don't~ have to talk to people lmao
The funniest thing is that it's only in fiction that all hackers are introvert shutins. So much of hacking has always been social engineering since the beginning, but in movies and TV shows they separate the social engineering side into just con artists while the "hackers" are only on computers.
The thing is, hacking started amongst a group of highly intelligent individuals working together lol being a shut in, also doesn't mean you don't know how to function around people or can't, it just means your preference Is to not be around them.
Also, as an individual that has is a "shut -in" and read alot of books, the "shut -in" trope in movies and cartoons comes from books, that came from authors that maybe didn't know anyone that could explain said character, and writing a character who doesn't have many interactions, means you don't need a cohesive story to explain how they got good at the thing you're trying to explain, but don't understand.
Alot of what we experience today, comes from books lol
All the best hackers are social engineers.
PLEASE someone, post that "don't trust this man" image. Please and thank you!
Had to put a highpass filter on the audio so my house would not collapse.
I see what you did, there. 👀😄
thor is the "nicest" , dangerous person ever imo
Hacker: Joins hacking contest
Godmode: Hack the hackers to win the contest
I learn more about technology and people from just a half dozen short clips of thor than I do from half a dozen years of life in general.
And for those of you who genuinely want to find a good restaurant, just take a hike through town on a Tuesday evening. If they can fill even half the seats on a Tuesday evening they're doing something right so that's gonna be your best bet.
Thors voice is one of those voices that you trust right away but you shount trust :D
Thor seems to be such an innocent guy, but when he starts small talking, you should be really worried. 😮
Social Engineering is the fine art of letting other people have your own way.
What you don't realize is King of the Grimmlins over there Was social engineering the other 3 the entire time... how? Guy's got a mind like a steel trap so to speak... he remembers.
The key to defending yourself against social engineering:
Never give any information (no matter how slight) that can be used to reveal your location at any given time or place(past, present, or future).
Never give any information that can assist in identifying you.
Never give any information about the company you work for or the work that you do that isn't already publicly available.
If you're not sure if it's safe to talk about, assume that it isnt.
I'm pretty sure thats basically it. It's not complicated, it just takes diligence.
Amazing interview
"Oh no, you can talk to me... it's fine... I P R O M I S E :)". freaking love this dude
A good takeaway from that first story, as I see it:
- inexperience is advanced by making it easier
- experience is advanced by making it harder
pirate tell them you built your own key
Of course the Goblin King doesn't sleep.
Went to DefCon and hacked the hackers. Yikes.
Clever hackers like Thor make me feel so insecure (emotionally and professionally lol)... not to mention vulnerable and stupid in my everyday life.
Love it.
thor: "im not competing in life this time guys, you can come to me for advice or guidance"
thor: *becomes the most famous online personality of all time* (wins the internet)
everyone: "god damnit he tricked us"
I feel awesome having a non scan wallet.
Thor needs to narrate books lol
Waste of talent
Thor used the oldest trick in the book...lying
I would talk to him all the dam time... Just to learn a fraction of what he has in that head :) priceless LMAO
Yes it's been said (I'm sure) a thousand plus times, but Thor could quit this job and do movie trailer voice overs and make a killing. The man must have two sets of balls.
hold up HOLD UP 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Are you telling me they made signs and spread "don't trust this guy"? DON'T TRUST ANYONE AT DEFCON!!! WTF... lmao.
This video was just what I needed to hear to overcome my fears and start trading. Thank you for the encouragement!
social engineering was the reason you were there in the first place 🤣
72 hours without sleep? wtf? 😂
I want to join you!
what application he is using to draw on board ?
MS paint lol and I’m not kidding. He posted a short on it not long ago, he draws with his mouse.
5:37 the dweebiness, it hurts!!!! It burns my ears!!!!
Just wear a Yellow jacket and a scafolding. Ez
So, every single interaction with another is a social engineering attack.
Bro I’m scared
He doesn't sleep for the 3 days?? What??
I take it you've never been to a con
Some people are just built different. If you think everyone's equal, lol. No
What do you mean there's a fucking convention called DefCon. Who's insane-
"I just won DefCon 23"
*DON'T JUST SAY THAT WITHOUT CONTEXT, THOR, JESUS CHRIST.*
Wow
Social engineer is just a modern way of saying con man.
holy moly nerd gathering.
Does this guy ever tell the truth?
i dont like this this thor guy
Yeah, lying about something when you are presented as a trusted figure works the first time. Then your reputation is shot.
So was the loss of your reputation with it?
What is bro talking about
For him, it was certainly worth it. That's something a hacker would do. While they no longer trust him for it, they had to respect that hustle.
@@crolaa6137 His social engineering "attack" involved him basically lying and using his standing within the community.
1. He said he was not participating in the competition. (lie 1)
2. He said that anyone that needed help can come visit him and he would help. (half truth. He did help those behind his team.)
3. He stole information from different teams and fed it to his team, while hindering the competition. (lie 2 and theft)
So yeah. He destroyed his credibility within the community to win a competition.
@@TheSonnyGo It hinders any further attempts to help others. They will have to consider that he is being malicious with his words, or if he is being sincere.
@@youngthinker1 I wasn't sure if you were talking that or not mb fam
Defcon went woke which saddens me
It was socially engineered to keep a uniform base value set of attendees
what does woke mean
@@thyowennothing. It’s a term that American right-wingers coined that they use to describe anything they don’t like, and they just spam it everywhere
@@thyowen It generally means having basic respect for other people, and acknowledging that people different from you exist. Most recently, acknowleding that gay or trans people exist will get you labeled "woke".
@@aaronl19 Exactly right. It's a nothingburger of a term.
cohhcarnage bring absolute nothing to the podcast..... he looks like a NPC.... soulless
The term you are looking for is "the straight man". Go look it up sometimes.