Fourth Cox Plate for Winx? Full Matt Chapman interview with trainer Chris Waller
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- What's it like training an Australian national treasure?
Before Winx bids for racing history in the Ladbrokes Cox Plate at Moonee Valley, our Matt Chapman speaks to trainer Chris Waller on the pressures of training Winx, the star mare's development and big-race rider Hugh Bowman.
UK challenger Benbatl bids to foil Australian icon Winx and her run of a remarkable 28 victories in a row and Matt Chapman asks Chris Waller about the seven-year-old's form and the trainer's response to some calls from Europe about the real merit of what Winx has achieved.
Cool, calm and collected and the man who has masterminded the career of a global racing star, here's Chris Waller as you may not have seen him before...
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An excellent interview from both sides. Better to have them chat like that than the nonsense that went on the other day
I read this bloke thought the autumn sun was superior to Winx.I read it 3 days ago and I’m still struggling to pick myself up off the floor from the laughter.Thanks pommy,you made my week.
Spin my head
You obviously can't read. He never said that.
What a horse and what a WIN to all you English haters!! She has now proven she is by far the best in the world!! Absolutely incredible!! GO WINX 🏇🏼Ⓜ️🧢
If that performance rates more than 124/125 then the ratings are a mockery. 126 at the absolute maximum.
I wish her connections are brave enough to run her outside of Australia....just like Enable
lol
Gilbert mateo not sure that it was a question of bravery. Enable either went to the paddock or went to the BC, which is about as taxing on a racehorse as travelling from Melbourne to Sydney like Winx has done half a dozen tim s in her career. Winx made history staying in Australia. She’s won nearly $23m in stakes. Not sure h adding overseas was a priority.
1 Of the best racehorses in the world without doubt
I finally understand why so many people mistakenly think Frankel never raced outside Newmarket (I've read quite a few comments in online debates such as 'Frankel never travelled more than 2km from his stable'). It's Matt Chapman's comment at around 4:37 that Frankel 'never left Newmarket'. It's a confusing statement; I believe he means Frankel was always returned to his box in Newmarket the night after a race. While Frankel of course never travelled outside the UK, he did race at several courses around it (Ascot, Newbury, York, Doncaster, Goodwood). A poorly travelled champion indeed, but not as bad as some people make out! Glad I watched this; cleared up my confusion.
What would be really interesting is if Winx is still in good racing shape at the beginning of 2019, and they actually take her to the
Queen Anne at Ascot on an A380. A win would shut many of these doubters up.
Robert Thomson she won
Hi guys and ladies. As doing equitation as hobby here in the small Island of Mauritius where horse racing is a national sport and gambling I just want to share my personal appreciation of a great horse be it a colt or a mare. Following horse racing for more than 30yrs now I can say that Winx is in fact the best mare around the world after Zenyatta in America. They both have this tremendous final acceleration which destroyed any opposition mainly Zenyatta who used to travel far back stretch and this cost her the last Breeders Cup classic where her world renowned jockey MS was over confident and lost by a neck. But Zenyatta is still the greatest at her time. NOW is WINX time and furthermore she gallops from sprint 1400m to longer 2040m and wins 29 consecutive big races since 2015 non stop. I think she is the greatest horse on this generation Z and respect from the world around.
Man you are doing great. Love your posts.
Congratulations Chris,Winx and the blue wave wins. Hope the blue wave wins on 11/6 in USA
Gotta Love Chris Waller
What we have here is a donkey and a guy with class
Sorry as forget to add in between Zenyatta and Winx the other great mare Black Caviar with 25 consecutive win including the one in UK but she was mainly an sprinter and not an all-rounder as the two above.
Chris Waller you're a good guy 👍
Enable and Winx would never meet. Enable is a 2400 plus horse. Winx is better at middle distance.
So how the hell are they going to race each other.
I love how she changes leg in the slow-mo around 4:11 ish.
I love Winx
Winxs "conquests"
Benbatl, Highland Reel, Humidor, Hartnell, Gailo Chop, Happy Clapper, Le Romain, Ulmann, Ungrateful Ellen, Sons of John, Ecuador, Criterion, Solicit, Dibayani, Kermadec, Hauraki, Black Heart Bart, Lasqueti Spirit, Foxplay, Red Excitement, Ventura Storm, Prized Icon, Invictus Prince, Ace High, Kings Will Dream, Youngstar, It's Somewhat, Egg Tart, Kementari, Classic Uniform, D'Argento, Chatauqua, Folkswood, Chocante, Sense of Occasion, Who shot the Barman, Endless Drama, Yankee Rose, He or She, Rebel Dane, Azkadellia, Press Statement, Ninth Legion, Imperial Lass, Worthy Cause
It's bloody disappointing that we have to listen to interviewers like this. Sure England has great horses, and Winx is a bloody great horse. Lets not tit for tat, lets just all enjoy racing!
Geoff Moir
What in this interview did you take offence to?
What ever you may think of Winx you have to admit Chris Waller is a proper bloke,a proper star!!
DUCSDREAM
Very true mate. He acknowledged that it is a legitimate question, which it is.
So fair play to him on that.
But they missed the boat, or the plane, they should have travelled in 2016 or 2017, she is too old now.
So he and the owners probably have questions to answer about ducking it in 2016/2017 but as it stands it's a moot point I suppose, she can only race what turns up.
But they know that the best horses in Europe won't travel to Australia, they never have and they never will.
In the past the C team and the D team have got the job done traveling to win the big Aussie races.
Now some of the players who haven't been successful are sending the odd member of the B team to try and get a win that's eluded them, but they will NEVER send the A team to Australia so if Winx doesn't travel she will never take on the best on the track, and everyone acknowledges it's too late for that.
@@elgransenor1472 Yes that C and D team member Highland Reel showed up to get his arse handed to him by 5 1/2 lengths before then showing up the A team a few times in the UK and USA and don't try to give me that bullshit about Highland Reel magically finding 6 lengths after his Australian trip. He beat Scottish 1.5 lengths in the Gordon Stakes as a 3yo before coming to Australia (Winx was beaten in Australian Oaks as a 3yo) and beat him 3 lengths in the Prince of Wales' Stakes as an older horse after racing in Australia (Winx was a record 8 length winner of Australia's premier race the WS Cox Plate).
AnotherFastnet70
It's pretty simple to understand dimwit.
Do you think Criterion was capable of winning a PoW, KGVI or Breeders Cup Turf?
Of course not.
Yet on Cox Plate day 2015 he beat Highland Reel.
QED.
@@elgransenor1472 anybody who has read our exchanges is likely to know who the dimwit is. To answer your question the Criterion of that day would have been competitive in any 2000m race in the world. He was just an inconsistent horse. When in his prime Winx beat him 5 lengths (she improved significantly the next 2 years) and Arc winner Golden Horn beat him the same margin when 2nd in a Juddmonte. Would Criterion get within 5 lengths of the 2016 - 2017 version of Winx ? Not a hope. To illustrate Criterion's inconsistency in 2016 he would later get beaten 4 lengths by The United States and 3 lengths by Hauraki in the Ranvet Stakes, horses Winx had no problems with. Later that year, when Winx was in her prime she smoked Hauraki 12 lengths in a Cox Plate over the same distance as the Ranvet.
AnotherFastnet70
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Enjoy life in your funny little fantasyland.
Inconsistent, HAHAHAHAHAHA.
What a weak excuse that one is.
Pathetic!
How did The Autumn Sun go when you took him to England?
Oh, that's right, you didn't.
European 3yos take on older horses from July onwards over 2000/2400 but TAS was too weak and fragile to run against Winx in the George Ryder or the Queen Elizabeth which would be the equivalent of Sept/Oct in Europe.
Goodness me its Mickey Mouse racing over there isn't it?
Winx would have destroyed The Autumn Sun and as he was majority owned by Arrowfield Stud they were never going to put his commercial value in jeopardy. They couldn't get him into the breeding barn quick enough when his ageing champion stallion, Redoute's Choice, who stood at Arrowfield, died suddenly. He's standing for $77,000 and will get 150 - 200 mares in each of his first 3 seasons. That colt will make Arrowfield $100 million+. His sire Redoute's Choice was standing at Arrowfield 15 years ago for $330,000. He probably made Arrowfield half a billion dollars !!
But would he have become infertile if he'd run 2nd to Winx a couple of times?
Here's a list of Aus/NZ horses who ran in the 1992 Cox Plate. Super impose, Better Loosen Up, Rough Habit, Mannerism, Burst, Sydeston, Naturalism, Lets Elope, Slight Chance.
Here's a list of most of the Aus/NZ horses Winx has beaten in FOUR Cox Plates. Criterion, Humidor, Happy Clapper, The Cleaner, Blackheart Bart, Yankee Rose, Awesome Rock, Kermadec, Lucia Valentina, D'Argento, Preferment, Savvy Coup.
lol lol you've picked out the single greatest Cox Plate field in history and rather conveniently failed to add international Group 1 winners Highland Reel, Vadamos and Benbatl as mentioning them doesn't suit the point you are trying to make. You are becoming rather pathetic, much like your homeland
AnotherFastnet70
You've missed the point, as usual.
Winx 22 million. Enable couple of quid.
Handy money wasnt it, against a bunch of donkeys
Chappers is just winding them all up. Comedy value
1 cool 😎 trainer
Matt, please interview the owners and ask them the same questions.
"Dour"
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Of course Frankel left Newmarket, Matt Chapman, what were you thinking!?. He just never ran outside UK.
And this interviewer is why my great great grand dad stole a loaf of bread .. to get away from these muppets
What this donkey doesn't understand is the owners can run their horse were ever they want.
Frankel never left Newmarket
Yeah but frankel beat far superior horses than winx ever did
Aye because winx raced great horses🙈🙈🙈🙈
Doncaster, Ascot, York, Newbury, Goodwood are not in Newmarket.
So the only way Enable will be respected is if she travels to Australia and beats winx.
No
Enable is respected for taking on the best 2400m horses in the world.
The best 2400m horses in the world aren’t in Australia.
Neither are the best 2000m horses.
That’s why Winx isn’t respected the same way.
She never raced against the worlds best in her division
What a breath of fresh air compared to the sanitised, boring, repetitive, sycophantic Australian media coverage of Winx.
The Moonee Valley racing club should be paying Chapman $10 million for breathing some life into this.
Surely Chris Waller actually enjoyed that interview more than any of the previous 100 he's done all asking the same predictable repetitive meaningless questions.
El Gran Senor I agree!
The only cope out from Waller's part is his excuse for not racing Winx overseas, i.e. overseas travel could potentially flatten a horse is a ridiculous statement.
If that's the case then what do we say about overseas trainers who send their horses here to Australia and win? Based on Waller's statement the only logical conclusion that we can arrive at is that overseas trainers and horses are superior to Australian ones!
It really is a stupid excuse. Discerning people know that Waller didn't send Winx overseas because the Prize money here in Australia is easy pickings, and why risk damaging the profile of the horse when u can keep beating Hartnell and Humidor and still make good money????????
Australian racing is so rich these days that there is little incentive to travel except for ego.A couple of weeks ago we had a $13 million AUD race over 6 f for example.Cox Plate is worth $5 million.And so on and so forth.I guess it'll be a question mark over her forever...no international wins.
Nick Hanlon
True.
For me it would be about the challenge.
It'd be like a golfer winning the Australian Open and Australian Masters three years in a row but not testing themselves in the US or British Opens. Saying, no, that's okay, I'm happy just playing in Australia.
@@nickhanlon9331 how about Frankel? Same question over him? Probably not from these shores. Let's face it, it's difficult to tie together form from different sides of the world.
Ryan Greenaway
It is difficult and even if they travel are they really at their best, what did it take out if them, have they acclimatised?
They did it best with SYT. Get them over there early, let them settle in, take it slow and use a local trainer.
I don't believe all that I got it wrong stuff from AOB about him, that was just hyperbole before he went to stud.
There was nothing wrong with how he was trained.
The put him in some stupid races. He should never have raced on dirt, and he could have run 2nd in the Arc with better tactics.
He was better than people think. He would have beaten Winx in Europe. She might have had his measure in Australia but I would have backed him in Europe against her.
I don't question Winx over having no international wins, i question her over never beating a really good horse. That could have been in Australia as far as I'm concerned, but there has been no Northerly, no Vo Rogue, no Let's Elope, no Sunline to put her under any pressure at home.
My question ISN'T why didn't she come to ascot.
My question is why in four years hasn't Australia or NZ been able to produce one other decent horse to race against her?
She's raced almost exclusively against seven year old gelding handicappers, European cast offs or erratic performers who win one race out of every eight or ten.
He literally just answered the question. Did you have it on mute?
Brandon Zaffina
He explained in that interview why Australia and NZ can't produce any other decent horses over a four year period?
I certainly didn't hear him do that.
Brandon Zaffina
Did you perhaps misread the word isn't ???
I've edited to make it clearer.
@@elgransenor1472 Yeah not gonna lie I did misread that. There is some decent WFA horses in Australia. I'm Australian and actually agree with every Matt Chapman has said. Truth is we don't produce the greatest stayers and middle distance horses. The country is very much sprint minded and bred around that concept. But she still wins 1400m races and we have some cracking sprinters in this country. She is definitely a phenomenon to be doing what she is doing at that age. She will win the Cox Plate by maybe 3-5 lengths. It's a small, tight track at Mooney Valley with the main straight being shorter than two furlongs and she will most likely being coming from close to last. You'll see when you watch.
Brandon Zaffina
I agree, she's great and she is better than everything in that field.
You guys used to have good middle distance horses there's no reason you can't again.
It seemed to drop off big time after Makybe Diva retired.
Since then You've had Winx, Dundeel and So you Think but outside those three not much.
If you look back from 1990-2006 there were 3-4 good 2000m up horses racing every year. What happened to that?
Enable has been to France a few times and won.
Now she is off to the States.
No value racing in Oz against nothing in races of no relevance.
Maybe you should check out how much our races are worth, before you say they are of no value.
Our sprinters shouldn't even bother coming over for your crappy races, but they do go and regularly spank their bottoms.
When is an English horse going to win the Melbourne Cup if you're so good?
Dylan C We don’t care if they are a billion dollars.
The prestige outweighs the money.
Millionaires own the top horses.
@@MrSmid888 Come and watch a G1 at Flemington, and you might rethink prestige.
@@MrSmid888 BTW, What horse is the highest stakes earner of all time, in the world? You know the answer, I suppose prestige is the only angle you can take.
Dylan C The Cup has prestige because the Europeans run there.
It’s the only good race.
Enable will beat winx in a race
Winx would beat Enable every time up to 2200
You don't win 28 races in a row ... unless you're beating , by and large , very average opposition . Winx is a great mare but she wouldn't beat Enable or Cracksman . She will be tested by Benbatl but he is very average compared to the aforementioned superstars .
Not true. To say Enable and Cracksman would beat her is very idiotic and ignorant. Until they race you can't say that. Ratings, times and margins show that Winx is the superior horse of the world right now.
Brandon Zaffina
The first half of your statement is correct, the second half is not.
@@elgransenor1472 Well who is the highest rated horse in the world? If you don't agree with the ratings please then enlighten me. My second half of the argument is true because she is in FACT the highest rated horse in the world and her sectionals are second to none, not one horse runs sectionals like her consistently. Personally the rating system doesn't mean too much to me but it has to be respected. And the gentlemen who wrote first saying Enable and Cracksman would win against her is being absurd considering everything she is done. Truth is, Cracksman legacy won't be great and if Enable retires after the Breeders Cup Classic it's safe to say they will be whispers in racing history compared to Winx. If Waller was gonna take her abroard he should of done so a while ago. It was too late this year and I agree with the decision to keep her in Australia. If you were an owner there would be no point because the prize money isn't as good and the soundness of the horse is at risk.
Brandon Zaffina
Fair enough, reasonable points.
It's fair that she is rated the highest although, like you, I don't really have much faith in those ratings but I think they have it right with her.
What I don't accept is that her times, margins and sectionals prove she is the best.
Tracks in Australia are very different than the UK. The Aussie tracks are both flatter and faster, many UK tracks are heavier going and have uphill finishes. Horses often have to adjust from uphill to downhill and back to uphill in the last 800m. It's not just a slight rise like Randwick.
And the style of racing is very different.
Her times and sectionals are only relevant in comparing her to other horses racing in Australia.
@@elgransenor1472 Yeah that's true. Can't disagree with anything there. Sectionals definitely aren't everything especially with those points you made. Is it true Benbatl had lacerations in his Juddmonte run? Because he was 5-6 lengths off Roaring Lion that day. It seems no one from the UK rates him too highly although his recent form is quite good if you take out that run at York. He seems like he thrives on fast tracks?
You would think this horse was any good it’s crap all racing is total fix it’s a disgrace
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