Is Islam Violent? | BIG DEBATE | David Wood & Apostate Prophet vs. Nadir Ahmed & Perfect Dawah

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  • David Wood and Apostate Prophet join forces and debate Nadir Ahmed and Perfect Dawah on Islamic violence.
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  • @ApostateProphet
    @ApostateProphet  Рік тому +1245

    Debate topic: Is Islam violent?
    Nadir Ahmed: Islam is violent but Islam is not violent because other ideologies are also violent.

  • @haguetroller8554
    @haguetroller8554 Рік тому +523

    "Some muslim are peaceful but it doesn't mean Islam is a religion of peace"
    Ex Muslim

  • @devilinthebelfry7292
    @devilinthebelfry7292 6 місяців тому +69

    If Islam was peaceful, we wouldn't even need to have this debate....

  • @azraelsoluna110
    @azraelsoluna110 7 місяців тому +292

    As an ex Muslim, I was used to saying "the problem is not religion but the people that follow and interpret them". Then I grew up and realized it was the complete other way around....

    • @kentracer4129
      @kentracer4129 7 місяців тому +6

      In all fairness it is the religion itself as well. God bless you

    • @VALLANCEGAMING
      @VALLANCEGAMING 7 місяців тому +21

      ​@@kentracer4129that's what he said......

    • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
      @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 6 місяців тому

      ​@@VALLANCEGAMINGTrue.

    • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
      @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@VALLANCEGAMINGThat's what she said. XD

    • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
      @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 6 місяців тому

      :3 Nadir is another person who denies that Hitler was a blatant Christian, and fails to observe Nordic nations, Japan, and some other pretty peaceful secular areas. Lolol

  • @sanatani_sano
    @sanatani_sano Рік тому +314

    Them: Islam is the only true religion
    *Them being unable to defend islam*
    Them: Look at Christianity, look at hinduism etc

    • @otex1046
      @otex1046 Рік тому +10

      nah you are the ones escaping real questions about your bible that has many contradictions

    • @sanatani_sano
      @sanatani_sano Рік тому

      @@otex1046 first of all, I'm not a Christian. Second of all, if Islam is the truth then why do they need to use these "fake" religion to proof that Islam true

    • @jefrin1095
      @jefrin1095 Рік тому +39

      ​@@otex1046 🤡🔫

    • @arthurgoonie4596
      @arthurgoonie4596 Рік тому +26

      ​@@otex1046 name me one contradiction and we will see how viable your claim Is.

    • @justhuman3886
      @justhuman3886 Рік тому +1

      While all of them are same 😂

  • @Cheximus
    @Cheximus Рік тому +830

    Happens every single time. A Muslim is put in a difficult position and their reflex is to say, "oh but Christianity is worse! Look at them! Don't look at us, look at them!". It's honestly pathetic. Happens ALL the time!!

    • @anomonyous
      @anomonyous Рік тому +1

      It's what they've been taught to do. And been shown to work, even on a global scale.
      How do authoritarian countries divert the attention of severe and constant human rights violations?
      They come together to point the finger at imagined or barely factual claims against Western countries, or cherrypick some sort of (perceived) past misdeed. They claim victimhood, and appeal to revisionist historical narratives which generalises people and provides a good/bad viewpoint on complex and multifaceted matters.
      Hence, "we've done something bad. We know we have, they know we have. They know we know. But we'll use shame and guilt to divert attention."
      And it doesn't matter if it's correct or not. Because the very act of doing something like this, has people scrambling to deny any allegations, or bow down in shame, or try and explain the reality of the situation, etc.
      Meanwhile, no answers have been given, no solutions, no punishments, and everything simply continues as it has always done.
      From global level to the individual. This is a proven tactic for the immoral and the criminal, to evade judgement.

    • @miguelquintana8076
      @miguelquintana8076 Рік тому +23

      Nadir os the biggest offender of this.

    • @jeroentaal7718
      @jeroentaal7718 Рік тому +46

      Yeah, but in all honesty, Yeshua should not have preached love your neighbour as yourself and pray for your enemies, that is so radical it makes even Islam look nice.....oh wait...

    • @die_buecher7090
      @die_buecher7090 Рік тому

      @@jeroentaal7718 but if you hate yourself and have no enemies...

    • @thatoneguyriley5657
      @thatoneguyriley5657 Рік тому +2

      @@die_buecher7090 eveyone loves themselves just need to be put in the place you realize if you love your phone you love yourself it complicated

  • @ishtarlew598
    @ishtarlew598 Рік тому +484

    Nadir: Islam was extremely violent in order to bring peace to the world 🤣

    • @vinsonmathew7995
      @vinsonmathew7995 Рік тому +9

      Open your eyes what is going around all over the world . Fighting each other and refugees to other countries and same stupidity continues.

    • @mohamedamineharbeoui1203
      @mohamedamineharbeoui1203 Рік тому

      Yep they tried to kill the prophet so many times and what you know about history I will tell you islam was in all the wolrd then they decided to bring teatching of paul not isho (jesus) back and he was always out number and he did win
      CHAPTER 8 VERSE 65
      يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِىُّ حَرِّضِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ عَلَى ٱلْقِتَالِ ۚ إِن يَكُن مِّنكُمْ عِشْرُونَ صَٰبِرُونَ يَغْلِبُوا۟ مِا۟ئَتَيْنِ ۚ وَإِن يَكُن مِّنكُم مِّا۟ئَةٌ يَغْلِبُوٓا۟ أَلْفًا مِّنَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ بِأَنَّهُمْ قَوْمٌ لَّا يَفْقَهُونَ
      Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.
      CHAPTER 49 VERSE 12
      بَلْ ظَنَنتُمْ أَن لَّن يَنقَلِبَ ٱلرَّسُولُ وَٱلْمُؤْمِنُونَ إِلَىٰٓ أَهْلِيهِمْ أَبَدًا وَزُيِّنَ ذَٰلِكَ فِى قُلُوبِكُمْ وَظَنَنتُمْ ظَنَّ ٱلسَّوْءِ وَكُنتُمْ قَوْمًۢا بُورًا
      "Nay, ye thought that the Messenger and the Believers would never return to their families; this seemed pleasing in your hearts, and ye conceived an evil thought, for ye are a people lost (in wickedness)."
      But in reality he was ordered to forgive who doesn't try to kill him and Muslims
      CHAPTER 60 VERSES 7_9
      عَسَى ٱللَّهُ أَن يَجْعَلَ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَ ٱلَّذِينَ عَادَيْتُم مِّنْهُم مَّوَدَّةً ۚ وَٱللَّهُ قَدِيرٌ ۚ وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ
      It may be that Allah will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For Allah has power (over all things); And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
      لَّا يَنْهَىٰكُمُ ٱللَّهُ عَنِ ٱلَّذِينَ لَمْ يُقَٰتِلُوكُمْ فِى ٱلدِّينِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوكُم مِّن دِيَٰرِكُمْ أَن تَبَرُّوهُمْ وَتُقْسِطُوٓا۟ إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلْمُقْسِطِينَ
      Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
      إِنَّمَا يَنْهَىٰكُمُ ٱللَّهُ عَنِ ٱلَّذِينَ قَٰتَلُوكُمْ فِى ٱلدِّينِ وَأَخْرَجُوكُم مِّن دِيَٰرِكُمْ وَظَٰهَرُوا۟ عَلَىٰٓ إِخْرَاجِكُمْ أَن تَوَلَّوْهُمْ ۚ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُمْ فَأُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلظَّٰلِمُونَ
      Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.
      CHAPTER 15 VERSE 85
      وَمَا خَلَقْنَا ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَآ إِلَّا بِٱلْحَقِّ ۗ وَإِنَّ ٱلسَّاعَةَ لَءَاتِيَةٌ ۖ فَٱصْفَحِ ٱلصَّفْحَ ٱلْجَمِيلَ
      We created not the heavens, the earth, and all between them, but for just ends. And the Hour is surely coming (when this will be manifest). So overlook (any human faults) with gracious forgiveness.
      CHAPTER 2 VERSE 256
      لَآ إِكْرَاهَ فِى ٱلدِّينِ ۖ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ ٱلرُّشْدُ مِنَ ٱلْغَىِّ ۚ فَمَن يَكْفُرْ بِٱلطَّٰغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِنۢ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدِ ٱسْتَمْسَكَ بِٱلْعُرْوَةِ ٱلْوُثْقَىٰ لَا ٱنفِصَامَ لَهَا ۗ وَٱللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ
      Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
      CHAPTER 5 VERSE 34
      وَلَقَدْ كُذِّبَتْ رُسُلٌ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَصَبَرُوا۟ عَلَىٰ مَا كُذِّبُوا۟ وَأُوذُوا۟ حَتَّىٰٓ أَتَىٰهُمْ نَصْرُنَا ۚ وَلَا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمَٰتِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَآءَكَ مِن نَّبَإِى۟ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ
      Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers.
      GOD DOESN'T CHANGE HE'S WORD I HAVE ANOTHER VERSE FOR THAT.WE HAVE TO PARDON PEOPLES EVEN IN SEDITION.
      CHAPTER 20 VERSES 95_98
      قَالَ فَمَا خَطْبُكَ يَٰسَٰمِرِىُّ
      (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri?"
      قَالَ بَصُرْتُ بِمَا لَمْ يَبْصُرُوا۟ بِهِۦ فَقَبَضْتُ قَبْضَةً مِّنْ أَثَرِ ٱلرَّسُولِ فَنَبَذْتُهَا وَكَذَٰلِكَ سَوَّلَتْ لِى نَفْسِى
      He replied: "I saw what they saw not: so I took a handful (of dust) from the footprint of the Messenger, and threw it (into the calf): thus did my soul suggest to me."
      قَالَ فَٱذْهَبْ فَإِنَّ لَكَ فِى ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ أَن تَقُولَ لَا مِسَاسَ ۖ وَإِنَّ لَكَ مَوْعِدًا لَّن تُخْلَفَهُۥ ۖ وَٱنظُرْ إِلَىٰٓ إِلَٰهِكَ ٱلَّذِى ظَلْتَ عَلَيْهِ عَاكِفًا ۖ لَّنُحَرِّقَنَّهُۥ ثُمَّ لَنَنسِفَنَّهُۥ فِى ٱلْيَمِّ نَسْفًا
      (Moses) said: "Get thee gone! but thy (punishment) in this life will be that thou wilt say, 'touch me not'; and moreover (for a future penalty) thou hast a promise that will not fail: Now look at thy god, of whom thou hast become a devoted worshipper: We will certainly (melt) it in a blazing fire and scatter it broadcast in the sea!"
      إِنَّمَآ إِلَٰهُكُمُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِى لَآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۚ وَسِعَ كُلَّ شَىْءٍ عِلْمًا
      But the god of you all is the One Allah: there is no god but He: all things He comprehends in His knowledge.

    • @mohamedamineharbeoui1203
      @mohamedamineharbeoui1203 Рік тому +2

      GOD DOESN'T CHANGE HE'S WORD I HAVE ANOTHER VERSE FOR THAT.WE HAVE TO PARDON PEOPLES EVEN IN SEDITION.
      CHAPTER 20 VERSES 95_98
      قَالَ فَمَا خَطْبُكَ يَٰسَٰمِرِىُّ
      (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri?"
      قَالَ بَصُرْتُ بِمَا لَمْ يَبْصُرُوا۟ بِهِۦ فَقَبَضْتُ قَبْضَةً مِّنْ أَثَرِ ٱلرَّسُولِ فَنَبَذْتُهَا وَكَذَٰلِكَ سَوَّلَتْ لِى نَفْسِى
      He replied: "I saw what they saw not: so I took a handful (of dust) from the footprint of the Messenger, and threw it (into the calf): thus did my soul suggest to me."
      قَالَ فَٱذْهَبْ فَإِنَّ لَكَ فِى ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ أَن تَقُولَ لَا مِسَاسَ ۖ وَإِنَّ لَكَ مَوْعِدًا لَّن تُخْلَفَهُۥ ۖ وَٱنظُرْ إِلَىٰٓ إِلَٰهِكَ ٱلَّذِى ظَلْتَ عَلَيْهِ عَاكِفًا ۖ لَّنُحَرِّقَنَّهُۥ ثُمَّ لَنَنسِفَنَّهُۥ فِى ٱلْيَمِّ نَسْفًا
      (Moses) said: "Get thee gone! but thy (punishment) in this life will be that thou wilt say, 'touch me not'; and moreover (for a future penalty) thou hast a promise that will not fail: Now look at thy god, of whom thou hast become a devoted worshipper: We will certainly (melt) it in a blazing fire and scatter it broadcast in the sea!"
      إِنَّمَآ إِلَٰهُكُمُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِى لَآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۚ وَسِعَ كُلَّ شَىْءٍ عِلْمًا
      But the god of you all is the One Allah: there is no god but He: all things He comprehends in His knowledge.

    • @mohamedamineharbeoui1203
      @mohamedamineharbeoui1203 Рік тому

      @@vinsonmathew7995 Yep they tried to kill the prophet so many times and what you know about history I will tell you islam was in all the wolrd then they decided to bring teatching of paul not isho (jesus) back and he was always out number and he did win
      CHAPTER 8 VERSE 65
      يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِىُّ حَرِّضِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ عَلَى ٱلْقِتَالِ ۚ إِن يَكُن مِّنكُمْ عِشْرُونَ صَٰبِرُونَ يَغْلِبُوا۟ مِا۟ئَتَيْنِ ۚ وَإِن يَكُن مِّنكُم مِّا۟ئَةٌ يَغْلِبُوٓا۟ أَلْفًا مِّنَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ بِأَنَّهُمْ قَوْمٌ لَّا يَفْقَهُونَ
      Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.
      CHAPTER 49 VERSE 12
      بَلْ ظَنَنتُمْ أَن لَّن يَنقَلِبَ ٱلرَّسُولُ وَٱلْمُؤْمِنُونَ إِلَىٰٓ أَهْلِيهِمْ أَبَدًا وَزُيِّنَ ذَٰلِكَ فِى قُلُوبِكُمْ وَظَنَنتُمْ ظَنَّ ٱلسَّوْءِ وَكُنتُمْ قَوْمًۢا بُورًا
      "Nay, ye thought that the Messenger and the Believers would never return to their families; this seemed pleasing in your hearts, and ye conceived an evil thought, for ye are a people lost (in wickedness)."
      But in reality he was ordered to forgive who doesn't try to kill him and Muslims
      CHAPTER 60 VERSES 7_9
      عَسَى ٱللَّهُ أَن يَجْعَلَ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَ ٱلَّذِينَ عَادَيْتُم مِّنْهُم مَّوَدَّةً ۚ وَٱللَّهُ قَدِيرٌ ۚ وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ
      It may be that Allah will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For Allah has power (over all things); And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
      لَّا يَنْهَىٰكُمُ ٱللَّهُ عَنِ ٱلَّذِينَ لَمْ يُقَٰتِلُوكُمْ فِى ٱلدِّينِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوكُم مِّن دِيَٰرِكُمْ أَن تَبَرُّوهُمْ وَتُقْسِطُوٓا۟ إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلْمُقْسِطِينَ
      Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
      إِنَّمَا يَنْهَىٰكُمُ ٱللَّهُ عَنِ ٱلَّذِينَ قَٰتَلُوكُمْ فِى ٱلدِّينِ وَأَخْرَجُوكُم مِّن دِيَٰرِكُمْ وَظَٰهَرُوا۟ عَلَىٰٓ إِخْرَاجِكُمْ أَن تَوَلَّوْهُمْ ۚ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُمْ فَأُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلظَّٰلِمُونَ
      Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.
      CHAPTER 15 VERSE 85
      وَمَا خَلَقْنَا ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَآ إِلَّا بِٱلْحَقِّ ۗ وَإِنَّ ٱلسَّاعَةَ لَءَاتِيَةٌ ۖ فَٱصْفَحِ ٱلصَّفْحَ ٱلْجَمِيلَ
      We created not the heavens, the earth, and all between them, but for just ends. And the Hour is surely coming (when this will be manifest). So overlook (any human faults) with gracious forgiveness.
      CHAPTER 2 VERSE 256
      لَآ إِكْرَاهَ فِى ٱلدِّينِ ۖ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ ٱلرُّشْدُ مِنَ ٱلْغَىِّ ۚ فَمَن يَكْفُرْ بِٱلطَّٰغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِنۢ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدِ ٱسْتَمْسَكَ بِٱلْعُرْوَةِ ٱلْوُثْقَىٰ لَا ٱنفِصَامَ لَهَا ۗ وَٱللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ
      Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
      CHAPTER 5 VERSE 34
      وَلَقَدْ كُذِّبَتْ رُسُلٌ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَصَبَرُوا۟ عَلَىٰ مَا كُذِّبُوا۟ وَأُوذُوا۟ حَتَّىٰٓ أَتَىٰهُمْ نَصْرُنَا ۚ وَلَا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمَٰتِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَآءَكَ مِن نَّبَإِى۟ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ
      Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers.
      GOD DOESN'T CHANGE HE'S WORD I HAVE ANOTHER VERSE FOR THAT.WE HAVE TO PARDON PEOPLES EVEN IN SEDITION.
      CHAPTER 20 VERSES 95_98
      قَالَ فَمَا خَطْبُكَ يَٰسَٰمِرِىُّ
      (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri?"
      قَالَ بَصُرْتُ بِمَا لَمْ يَبْصُرُوا۟ بِهِۦ فَقَبَضْتُ قَبْضَةً مِّنْ أَثَرِ ٱلرَّسُولِ فَنَبَذْتُهَا وَكَذَٰلِكَ سَوَّلَتْ لِى نَفْسِى
      He replied: "I saw what they saw not: so I took a handful (of dust) from the footprint of the Messenger, and threw it (into the calf): thus did my soul suggest to me."
      قَالَ فَٱذْهَبْ فَإِنَّ لَكَ فِى ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ أَن تَقُولَ لَا مِسَاسَ ۖ وَإِنَّ لَكَ مَوْعِدًا لَّن تُخْلَفَهُۥ ۖ وَٱنظُرْ إِلَىٰٓ إِلَٰهِكَ ٱلَّذِى ظَلْتَ عَلَيْهِ عَاكِفًا ۖ لَّنُحَرِّقَنَّهُۥ ثُمَّ لَنَنسِفَنَّهُۥ فِى ٱلْيَمِّ نَسْفًا
      (Moses) said: "Get thee gone! but thy (punishment) in this life will be that thou wilt say, 'touch me not'; and moreover (for a future penalty) thou hast a promise that will not fail: Now look at thy god, of whom thou hast become a devoted worshipper: We will certainly (melt) it in a blazing fire and scatter it broadcast in the sea!"
      إِنَّمَآ إِلَٰهُكُمُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِى لَآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۚ وَسِعَ كُلَّ شَىْءٍ عِلْمًا
      But the god of you all is the One Allah: there is no god but He: all things He comprehends in His knowledge.

    • @ishtarlew598
      @ishtarlew598 Рік тому +28

      @@mohamedamineharbeoui1203 You simply highlight proof that the Quran is not from Allah but man-made.
      Only a human can change his mind. The concept of "abrogation" in the Quran is that Allah chose to reveal ayat that supersede earlier ayat in the same Quran. The central ayah that deals with abrogation is Surah 2:106:
      Then all the earlier peaceful Meccan verses (Before Mohammed had an army) got Abrogated by the more violent Medinan verses when Mohammed had many more followers.
      Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
      Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
      Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence at the time of Muhammad was to convert to Islam: prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars. The popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
      [Note: The verse says to fight unbelievers "wherever you find them". Even if the context is a time of battle (which it was not) the reading appears to sanction attacks against those "unbelievers" who are not on the battlefield.
      Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has instructed them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
      If the Quran is eternal, then please feel free to use the Quran only to explain why Allah, the perfect embodiment of truth, abrogated his own clear, perfect, immutable, inerrant Quran, and also put these violent verses into context.

  • @mhmmhm1902
    @mhmmhm1902 Рік тому +190

    hey man i just wanna tell you thanks. I left islam about a month ago after trying to refute your claims and debating them with my friends. I don’t know how I saw Islam as truthful in any way and I just wanna say thanks.

    • @toddbeamer6131
      @toddbeamer6131 Рік тому +31

      congratulations. keep safe.
      There is a similar story with one of David Wood's early friends, a muslim named Nabeel. They were given the same room in college, and spent a long time debating with each other over the foundations and facts of each religion. Once Nabeel had read his scripture thoroughly, he realised just how bad it was, and left the cult.

    • @adilk8711
      @adilk8711 Рік тому

      Are you so stupid….. 😢😢😢
      I really feel bad for you …. Any way u maybe find it the truth at the end…… I hope ur soul will be saved

    • @HllCat
      @HllCat Рік тому +22

      Congrats, hope the best for ya. I left islam 8 years ago, glad i'm gone out of that insane cult.

    • @yuriitai4552
      @yuriitai4552 Рік тому

      @@HllCat Well good that means Islam will have less imposter then. Go on with your liberal and atheist meaningless life.

    • @Shekhar9900
      @Shekhar9900 Рік тому +5

      👏

  • @kentracer4129
    @kentracer4129 7 місяців тому +51

    The main and most important problem when debating a muslim is you will never get the actual truth as they are allowed to lie for there religion. Smh. 🤦🏻🤷🏻

    • @HebraicandocomYohay
      @HebraicandocomYohay 5 місяців тому

      What do u mean? What is the base for that?

    • @diaboloavocado
      @diaboloavocado 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@@HebraicandocomYohayHe is probably referring to taqiyya which Muslims excuse as only being permissable in danger. However, this is incomplete as there are other examples of when taqiyya is permissable.
      You could also argue it applies when the intention is pious, in furtherance of the goals of spreading Islam, in jihad against the adversaries of Islam, or when concealing "hidden knowledge" from the uninitiated.
      So all of those can be used to justify lying for Islam, only Muslims always only mention the first one, which is lying for protection.
      But watch Mohammed Hijab. He says is it OK to lie to your spouse. Not just little white lies, but severe "black" lies. If it is fine in Iskam to lie to your own spouse, imagine how much more justified Muslims will feel about lying to believers or apostates who they hold in contempt!

  • @snowwhiterosered8571
    @snowwhiterosered8571 Рік тому +1025

    The difference between Islam and Christianity:
    Some *individual* Christians are violent but you cannot find justification for the actions in the Bible or in Jesus’ life
    Some *individual* Muslims aren’t violent but you can find justification for violence in their books and in Mohammed’s life

    • @user-ox6gl8gv5j
      @user-ox6gl8gv5j Рік тому

      See, this is how I know you've never actually read neither of the scriptures. Stop watching UA-cam videos by random people on the internet and try to actually read a bible or a Quran yourself.

    • @maryrosefridey
      @maryrosefridey Рік тому +83

      Exactly right!!!!!

    • @ryanmcneil4394
      @ryanmcneil4394 Рік тому +1

      Well I’m an atheist and both bible and Quran contain violent words and ideas.

    • @thomasprogli3372
      @thomasprogli3372 Рік тому +112

      That is exactly my argument. I am an atheist but I do not put all religions in the same bucket.

    • @I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
      @I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid Рік тому +40

      Ding 🛎! Ding 🛎!! DING 🛎!!!

  • @harshnautiyal1699
    @harshnautiyal1699 Рік тому +145

    David Woods Mug: Jihadi Tears 🤣🤣🤣

    • @olipoint6390
      @olipoint6390 Рік тому

      Hindus call Christians rice bags

    • @dennisthemenace4288
      @dennisthemenace4288 Рік тому

      I see a hindutva nationalist using christian material very well. While making india 10-11th nation to be most dangerous country for christian community.

    • @okay123hj
      @okay123hj Рік тому +3

      ikr😂😂😂

  • @G0DsFuneral
    @G0DsFuneral 7 місяців тому +103

    Instead of "Is Islam Violent?", it should be "Islam is Violent, why?" Should be the topic of conversion.

    • @orkhepaj
      @orkhepaj 5 місяців тому

      because it is a satanist cult

    • @ethio7557
      @ethio7557 5 місяців тому

      Because Muhammad and the qurran said it.
      The founder of Islam Muhammad launched violence.
      Some of the violent verses
      " kill them wherever you found them"
      replies to Jews and Christians.

    • @klowen7778
      @klowen7778 5 місяців тому

      Good question, though in fairness, _All_ of the "Judaeo-Christian" religions have always had their share of Zealots and Charismatic _'Extremists'_

    • @tariqspaulding8034
      @tariqspaulding8034 3 місяці тому

      Unitarian Christianity verse Trinitarian Christianity (Pauline Christianity)

    • @user-bs4qu7tb2g
      @user-bs4qu7tb2g 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@tariqspaulding8034 huh?

  • @mizolafoufounna
    @mizolafoufounna Рік тому +73

    Fifteen years ago, this type of content was unheard and unseen. Now, many apostates are finally expressing their opinions on Islam like the frenchman Majid Oukacha who is a powerful articulated defender of apostates. Long live the Internet!! 🙏🙏

    • @ahmedharris4746
      @ahmedharris4746 Рік тому +1

      And more have joined Islam as a result. The future is a Muslim one according to most demographers. Long live the internet indeed.

    • @miguelquintana8076
      @miguelquintana8076 9 місяців тому

      Straight up, they would have killed you.

    • @miguelquintana8076
      @miguelquintana8076 9 місяців тому +2

      @@ahmedharris4746 Not really though.

    • @joygibbons5482
      @joygibbons5482 7 місяців тому +4

      @@ahmedharris4746 There will be an increase in numbers due to high birth rates in some Muslim communities. However, this is being counterbalanced by apostasy and a hollowing out of belief. In addition, some of the greatest falls in birthrates have occurred in Muslim majority nations, either 5 or 6 out of the 10 largest falls depending on the timeframe between the mid 20th century and last few years, so any increase due to birthrates will soon trend down.

    • @ahmedharris4746
      @ahmedharris4746 7 місяців тому +2

      @@joygibbons5482 It will trend down far longer than other modern nations so for all intents and purposes, its irrelevant. And apostasy is not overtaking natural replacement rate or conversion rate by any metric. The excesses of the modern world in all of its forms from the ecological toll of consumption patterns to the demographic effects of westernization will cause a counter balancing that will see a shift towards more particularist, spiritual and religious membership. And Islam will directly benefit.

  • @SolaGratia.
    @SolaGratia. Рік тому +613

    Poor Nadir. He's like the Karen of Muslim apologetics on UA-cam.

    • @theinnerlight8016
      @theinnerlight8016 Рік тому +39

      🤣🤣
      Very good analogy.

    • @SolaGratia.
      @SolaGratia. Рік тому +54

      @@theinnerlight8016 Yep. He reminds me of the kid in the nursery who can't enjoy snack time because he's so convinced another kid got more animal crackers than he did.

    • @habibie
      @habibie Рік тому +9

      Sehr gut gesagt!

    • @Manmade023
      @Manmade023 Рік тому +6

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @amgames5638
      @amgames5638 Рік тому +6

      35:25 You're right, look at how much of a Karen he sounds like in these 10 seconds lol

  • @user-RedPirateTerrorist
    @user-RedPirateTerrorist 10 місяців тому +13

    How Muslims explain how peaceful Islam is :
    12x+37y(3m+3b)= -23h×345h +0😂😂😂

  • @nyomansabun1136
    @nyomansabun1136 11 місяців тому +29

    I honestly didnt think it was possible to find someone dumber than Nadir until " perfect dawah " came along. Well done boys.

  • @simriths.s5976
    @simriths.s5976 Рік тому +1149

    "Without lies Islam dies."

    • @olipoint6390
      @olipoint6390 Рік тому

      Hindus call Christians rice bags

    • @jeffreyanderson6021
      @jeffreyanderson6021 Рік тому +71

      And it would never have been born... But here we are.

    • @diaric2611
      @diaric2611 Рік тому +15

      @@jeffreyanderson6021 😂😂😂

    • @apostate9397
      @apostate9397 Рік тому +18

      Correct

    • @thewest6128
      @thewest6128 Рік тому +54

      It will die even with lies because the truth will unmask Islam!

  • @icyBulls
    @icyBulls Рік тому +162

    Seeing David Wood and Apostate Prophet together always makes me happy to see, praise God!!!

    • @leokir9095
      @leokir9095 Рік тому

      Well, Christians are just polytheists, they've always teamed up with Atheists and Anti-religious types, Christians and specially western Christians always form the strongest alliances with atheists even those who are against Christianity, as seen in their support for the establishment and current funding of Israel who kills and persecutes Christians.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas Рік тому +1

      for what?

    • @toddpacker4683
      @toddpacker4683 10 місяців тому +10

      @@HarryNicNicholashe enjoys them? What do you mean?

  • @joyjoy5326
    @joyjoy5326 11 місяців тому +28

    Islam and PEACE can NEVER be in ONE sentence .thanks team team

  • @valenciaashley1098
    @valenciaashley1098 7 місяців тому +29

    Everyone’s face when he said “Christian Jihad!” was priceless 😂

  • @ryan-heath
    @ryan-heath Рік тому +387

    Just wait for Nadir to appear in the comments claiming the debate victory 😂

    • @cognitiveblues
      @cognitiveblues Рік тому +48

      Hahaha. He always does that even if he is always the biggest loser.

    • @maryrosefridey
      @maryrosefridey Рік тому +16

      Lmaoooo yes 😂😂

    • @Mansplainer452
      @Mansplainer452 Рік тому +11

      😂😂😂😂Reminds me of Wimp Lo from Kung Pow. They purposely trained him as a joke

    • @PRAECOVERITATIS
      @PRAECOVERITATIS Рік тому +21

      And he claimed: Christian Prince runs away from me! 😅
      Please answer: is alcohol good or bad?

    • @maxitb1921
      @maxitb1921 Рік тому +3

      Weird understanding that guy 😂

  • @megselv6633
    @megselv6633 Рік тому +154

    Why do muslims keep letting Nadir selfdestruct lmao. This guy makes Zakir Naik look smart in comparison

    • @wretchedsavedbygrace4499
      @wretchedsavedbygrace4499 Рік тому +16

      It’s the best part !! He is comedy 🎭

    • @ihateorangecat
      @ihateorangecat Рік тому

      but he is a mEdicaL dOctOr.

    • @cedrichartz6426
      @cedrichartz6426 Рік тому +2

      Hes being outcasted by community

    • @bijosn
      @bijosn Рік тому +5

      he is a standup comedian who is unintentionally funny, the crowd laughs at him instead of with him

    • @megselv6633
      @megselv6633 Рік тому +11

      Well, let's encourage him to keep debating non-muslims. He is a bigger threat to Islam than any critic will ever be.

  • @HadzaTV
    @HadzaTV Рік тому +18

    I love the way Nadir gets exposed like a thousand times and just keeps shrugging it off 😅 very disingenuous

    • @CoolStoryBro455
      @CoolStoryBro455 5 місяців тому +1

      When your salary and lifestyle depends on it, there is no going back

  • @PaulBunyun1954
    @PaulBunyun1954 7 місяців тому +12

    At minute 2:42 Nadir said that if you remain in a state of passiveness to long..you will be attacked. Is that what happened with Israel? Should Israel have done a preemptive attack to maintain PEACE?

  • @susiboh1183
    @susiboh1183 Рік тому +47

    Nadir: “Islamic law is very flexible.” 🙄🤥😅 In other words, we flex it as we want to and whenever we need to. Nadir just confirmed that indeed, Allah is the greatest of all deceivers!

  • @MisterSUII
    @MisterSUII Рік тому +20

    Apostate Prophet and David Wood absolutely destroyed their opponents in this debate! They won every single argument with ease. Blessings from Vienna

  • @theastronomer5800
    @theastronomer5800 11 місяців тому +12

    Muslims, when confronted with the verses that order fighting, will usually tell you that these were only "for that time", and because "Muhammad was getting attacked". First, the Quran is supposed to contain eternal teachings (not just for the years when Muhammad was around) and these teachings are later explained by the tafsirs and found in Sharia - and they never say that they were meant only for that time - so, the Muslims contradict their own scholars whom they often tell us to consult. Second, if you look at how many battles and raids that Muslims under Muhammad were involved in (over 100), and how they behaved, it's very clear that almost none of them were defensive. Islam also expanded into numerous surrounding countries from India to Spain - that was not a "defensive" expansion! Muslim simply either do not know their history, or try to flip facts and if you have studied the history and point these things out, they'll just tell you that you have read the wrong sources, or misunderstood the sources.

  • @Daniel-jx1sw
    @Daniel-jx1sw Рік тому +174

    Did you know that the letter "p" in the word islam stands for peace?

  • @maryrosefridey
    @maryrosefridey Рік тому +297

    Every time I see Nadir Ahmed's name on one of these debates I get so excited for the stupidity of Islam about to be magnified 😂😂😂🤦‍♀️

    • @yajujmajuj1739
      @yajujmajuj1739 Рік тому +15

      Really?! I feel miserable cos listening to him is like using my breathe to blow-dry a wet towel

    • @Hannestv4607
      @Hannestv4607 Рік тому +1

      Police Confirm NO RECORD of Uthman ibn Farooq STABBING EXPOSED
      as it seems obvious he is a fairy tale teller

    • @israelsolos
      @israelsolos Рік тому +16

      I hope god bless us all with a world without Islam

    • @bethesda5739
      @bethesda5739 Рік тому +2

      Nadir is such unique.... his explanation are also unique as himself

    • @bethesda5739
      @bethesda5739 Рік тому +7

      Christian Jihad.... what?.... Are you trying to make me laugh 😂?....

  • @motusprimus
    @motusprimus 8 місяців тому +8

    Nadir Ahmed should sit and be quiet because he is doing nothing but word play. He did nothing to help his case anywhere in this old debate.

  • @akatsukiLA
    @akatsukiLA 11 місяців тому +13

    OMG IM ONLY 20 MINS IN AND I ALL READY FEEL LIKE PULLING MY HAIR OUT! LOL... NADIR YOU ARE THE WORST DEBATER I HAVE EVER SEEN! So your trying to prove that Islam is NOT violent by saying Islam is not as violent as Christians?!?! Make it makes sense please 🙏.... just bc a religion is more or less violent than the other it does not change the fact that it's violent! 😂

  • @kelzaroute
    @kelzaroute Рік тому +296

    Nadir has admitted a few times that Islam is violet... It is a waste of time to debate with him but at least it brings some entertainment to us .. AHAHAHa

    • @AbdolRespond
      @AbdolRespond Рік тому +17

      Not just violet, it is also indigo

    • @es-rh8oo
      @es-rh8oo Рік тому +31

      @@AbdolRespond and red
      Red with the blood of all the people it has killed

    • @shinymew2887
      @shinymew2887 Рік тому +25

      Nadir was staring at David and Apostate with a super evil stare, lmao swear he was murdering them in his mind. Lmao

    • @josephjoe644
      @josephjoe644 Рік тому +6

      @@AbdolRespond also it is black .as hijab

    • @TheRealNormanBates
      @TheRealNormanBates Рік тому

      I red somewhere that it’s the religion of piece.

  • @lukaszko123
    @lukaszko123 Рік тому +275

    I have never seen a debate: "Is Buddhism violent" and discussing other religions like Christianity or Hinduism in the context of violence also happens less often than discussing Islam in that context. I guess that a fact that so many people wonder whether Islam is violent is can be an answer in itself

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 Рік тому +14

      Wow. I never really thought about about it from that angle. Very insightful

    • @johnzerzan2191
      @johnzerzan2191 Рік тому

      Of course because christian majority countries control the media

    • @kanyenortheast
      @kanyenortheast Рік тому

      The actual question shouldn't be is Islam violent but is Islam more or less violent than other Religions?
      Hindu cow vigilantes exist.
      Christian Mass murderers Like Anders Breivik exist
      But the answer is obvious, No other Religion is as violent as Islam

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 Рік тому +22

      The question isnt about cherrypicking the actions of radicals. The question is asking if Islam is intrinsically violent.

    • @jamesolson4975
      @jamesolson4975 Рік тому

      Actually Buddhists have literally killed Muslims and those of other faiths such an example is Sri Lanka

  • @Artemidia
    @Artemidia 4 місяці тому +5

    The mercenaries of Russia in Syria are Muslims you genius! They are Chechen

  • @iloveanimation555
    @iloveanimation555 6 місяців тому +6

    North African pirates dominated the Mediterranean and Atlantic from the 16th century until the 19th century.

    • @CounterClaws
      @CounterClaws 4 місяці тому +1

      Don't forget about the brutality of the arab slave trade that lasted over 1000 years

  • @WickedFelina
    @WickedFelina Рік тому +75

    NADIR: "Of ALL religions, Islam has the perfect balance of WAR and PEACE so it is the MOST peaceful of ALL religions!"
    - Well. I think we're done here!

    • @nadirahmed4224
      @nadirahmed4224 Рік тому

      yes, you guys are all done! it was pointed out that being in a 100% defensive position is suicide ... many peaceful countries engage in offensive warfare against non-believers - USA engaged in offencsive warfare communist non-believers in democracy

    • @ndjibukabengele973
      @ndjibukabengele973 Рік тому +4

      He is a clown for sure.

    • @mikegreen2229
      @mikegreen2229 Рік тому +6

      It proves Islam is a political system with religion attached. A spiritual belief should never need violence unless you interject humans wanting control

    • @nadirahmed4224
      @nadirahmed4224 Рік тому +2

      @@mikegreen2229 I notice you were not able to give me any of David Wood's spectacular refutations 😄 Just look at all the comments not a single one is using their arguments Because it was horrible! You should just admit that they lost the debate

    • @beanybeansable
      @beanybeansable Рік тому

      @@nadirahmed4224 Nadir of course they aren't using arguments. You literally cant be argued with, you just go off into nonsense and declare yourself the winner.
      Do a debate with mohammed hijab or ali dawah on whether apostates should be executed in an islamic state.

  • @JoeSmith-bz9to
    @JoeSmith-bz9to Рік тому +64

    It’s hilarious how the version of Islam of peace and tolerance that Nadir and Muji preach, would land them on the death chair if Muhammad was alive!

    • @friendo6257
      @friendo6257 Рік тому +1

      Well maybe, depending on how much of the Quran was actually produced during Muhammads life. Early on the Quran was mostly about peace and tolerance. As time went on passages were written contradicting those earlier, more peacefull passages. And that tradition of abrogation is why Islam is clearly not a peaceful religion. It's kind of opposite of what we see in Christianity. Judaism was a violent warmongers religion (happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks after all), then the gospels teach of tolerance and slaves being obedient to their masters, turn the other cheak and whatnot.

    • @chomo54andbabyaisha97
      @chomo54andbabyaisha97 Рік тому +6

      @General "ISIS are the real muslims, because ISIS do exactly what the book says." - Andrew Tate

  • @user-zt5bk4zh8i
    @user-zt5bk4zh8i 6 місяців тому +6

    PEACE is … When ONLY MUSLIMS are ALIVE!!!

  • @victoriacritchlow9069
    @victoriacritchlow9069 6 місяців тому +5

    Nadir is so CONDESCENDING he never answers a question and to be honest shows Islam up

  • @dejavudisciple
    @dejavudisciple Рік тому +67

    Muslim: I am right if you just ignore everything AP and DWood is saying 🤣

  • @kenyachristianapologeticsp9635
    @kenyachristianapologeticsp9635 Рік тому +355

    Nadir dude is one of the best comedian ever,,,,😂😂😂😂 while using an Islamic website

    • @brookendale3611
      @brookendale3611 Рік тому +14

      It's like he's never outgrown his early teens where he has identified with some crazy dangerous fanatical fairytales.

    • @grandmelkolmnyan9061
      @grandmelkolmnyan9061 Рік тому +1

      😂👍🏼

    • @jmanzani6450
      @jmanzani6450 Рік тому +9

      Nadia would be a comedian, if he wasn’t actually serious.
      Most debaters attempt to be honest in their content. Nadir has no such restraint

    • @grandmelkolmnyan9061
      @grandmelkolmnyan9061 Рік тому +1

      @John Walter 😂

    • @javageek123
      @javageek123 Рік тому +1

      Ha ha ha. Very true, brother

  • @grassrootsgaming1627
    @grassrootsgaming1627 Рік тому +7

    Nadir has 2 brain cells and they are both fighting for third place

  • @amaru9696
    @amaru9696 11 місяців тому +8

    Nadir comes across completely unstable!

  • @Bogey1022
    @Bogey1022 Рік тому +135

    Nadir - "When we talk about Peace, we mean a perfect mix of War and Peace"

    • @djanggopelquijano3910
      @djanggopelquijano3910 Рік тому +4

      😃

    • @dwayners13
      @dwayners13 Рік тому

      Obviously, the only way to bring peace is to use violence against the unbelievers until they surrender & submit, then we have peace….as long as they pay & obey us.

    • @tomolo2619
      @tomolo2619 Рік тому +1

      It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated
      True love = the love of God!
      *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
      Philippians 2:5-8

    • @scorpionfiresome3834
      @scorpionfiresome3834 Рік тому

      @@tomolo2619 You can’t debunk superstition with more superstition.

    • @tomolo2619
      @tomolo2619 Рік тому +1

      Exactly! the Koran writer didn't even know what Christians believe! The writer of the Koran didn't even know that God became man according to Christianity! The writer of the Koran did not even know the most important foundations of Christianity!

  • @patricksebas1024
    @patricksebas1024 Рік тому +73

    With muslim every Words have à différent meaning

    • @boriserjavec6470
      @boriserjavec6470 Рік тому +16

      Logic and reason goes out of the window with islam

    • @justinarzola4584
      @justinarzola4584 Рік тому +6

      Even when you quote directly from their sources they accuse you of taking things out of context or you aren't reading "reliable sources" 😂😂.

    • @user-pw2gg6py1g
      @user-pw2gg6py1g Рік тому +1

      @@boriserjavec6470
      not just islam have you seen christian apologetics they are all a joke

    • @danny2478i
      @danny2478i Рік тому +2

      @@user-pw2gg6py1g just say are you lying to yourself
      Muslim or Atheist? 🤔

    • @boriserjavec6470
      @boriserjavec6470 Рік тому

      @@user-pw2gg6py1g i haven't

  • @rameshgovt8075
    @rameshgovt8075 11 місяців тому +8

    If Islam is peaceful religion then whats the need for fight against non believers of alla...AP clearly. Asking the question till the end unfortunate he didn't get the answer

  • @stevenclark5646
    @stevenclark5646 Рік тому +8

    Don't run to the Hadith he says because that's where you find the real madness

  • @mo_51_married_aisha_6
    @mo_51_married_aisha_6 Рік тому +358

    One well known imam Yusuf Qaradawi said that Islam would never survive without enforcing apostasy laws. That's what they have to do to stop people from leaving.

    • @es-rh8oo
      @es-rh8oo Рік тому +60

      Incoming Muslim apologists be like: noooo that man is not a Muslim!! Don't trust the imams only trust Allah!!

    • @es-rh8oo
      @es-rh8oo Рік тому +45

      Oh and of course we can't forget that ending of their pointless paragraphs
      Allah knows best

    • @mo_51_married_aisha_6
      @mo_51_married_aisha_6 Рік тому +32

      @@es-rh8oo Lol. True! One very big problem for them, filmed at several of their mosques and schools for children in different countries they were teaching all that and worse.

    • @Avatinfernus
      @Avatinfernus Рік тому +54

      Yea. Islam saying religion shouldn't be compulsory, while holding a gun at your head.

    • @temporaryaccount5307
      @temporaryaccount5307 Рік тому +5

      Why do u think so many millions fled!

  • @faiezdeso8255
    @faiezdeso8255 Рік тому +117

    Apparently everything is “out of context” if it’s false, contradicting or violent. Everything that sounds peaceful is always on context 😂

    • @justinarzola4584
      @justinarzola4584 Рік тому +25

      Glory of cherry picking.

    • @daveanaru3038
      @daveanaru3038 Рік тому +5

      Apparently, I've taken Ali Dawah's statement (about killing apostates and being proud of it.,... or allowing his 9 year old daughter to be married)...…out of context.

    • @tysolbohan6446
      @tysolbohan6446 Рік тому

      @@daveanaru3038 so this is the really annoying thing here and this is a fallacy here but whenever a muslim questions the credibility of a source because there school of Islam doesn't consider that source reliable then you will turn around and say it doesn't matter go argue it with your other Islamic buddies.
      And this is the appeal to to unreliable authority its when you build an entire narrative based on a single hadith and when that's questioned you double down and all of a sudden act like all Muslims accept the same Hadiths they apply the same methodologies.
      Btw the Ishmalite corpus rejects that those hadiths that related to Aishas age we don't even consider her testimony valuable because it would benefit Aisha to say she was married to the prophet fron the age of 9 think about it if your trying to prove which hadith is more divine wouldn't it make sense you make it seem like you have known the prophet his entire life?
      Why do you think that hadith was spread? To increase the reliability of its authenticity to the ancient near eastern context.
      So to sum up most people here are bold faced liars

    • @timflanders5017
      @timflanders5017 Рік тому +3

      That's pretty much page 1 of Muslim debating
      Page 2 says if you don't understand written and spoken Arabic, you can't debate us
      Page 3 says Muslims need to point fingers at other religions to make Islam look good

    • @jackieann5494
      @jackieann5494 6 місяців тому

      Yup.
      What other religious books call to forcefully subjugate others ?

  • @merrickc1876
    @merrickc1876 Місяць тому +3

    Is Islam violent?
    Perfect Dawah: There are many ways to answer it. 😅🤣
    Answers:
    English: Yes
    French: Oui
    Spanish: Sí
    German: Ja
    Japanese: はい (Hai)
    Mandarin Chinese: 是 (Shì)
    Arabic: نعم (Na'am)
    Russian: Да (Da)

  • @pkalien2640
    @pkalien2640 Рік тому +193

    When nadir is there, the whole debate loose its credibility.

    • @just_akh4694
      @just_akh4694 Рік тому

      Why? I've never hurd of nadir

    • @chomo54andbabyaisha97
      @chomo54andbabyaisha97 Рік тому +9

      @@just_akh4694 He got spanked by CP,
      Christian Prince Debates Nadir Ahmed | New Debate

    • @jesussaves6625
      @jesussaves6625 Рік тому +7

      He did make it into a circus

    • @marisakennedy777
      @marisakennedy777 Рік тому +5

      lol, yeah, the other guy didn't even want him to talk and they're on the same side 😂

    • @pressy3182
      @pressy3182 Рік тому +1

      Nadir is out of track

  • @mindexcursion9856
    @mindexcursion9856 Рік тому +127

    3 things I learnt from the debate.
    1. Does the Quran actually say what it means? Apparently not, when the verses are violent then they are not clear and we must go to the non violent verses. Apparently Allah made the non violent verses clearer than the violent ones.
    2. You actually need to have a war to have peace. Nadir made that point very well a few times. Silly me, I thought that if you are not fighting anybody, you are not at war with anyone.
    3. Fighting a defensive war is also attacking the enemy in an offensive war. That way you are fighting the enemy over there and not have to fight them over here. Another Gem from Nadir Ahmed. Never occurred to Nadir that if you are not over there, then you stay home and not actually having to fight anyone.

    • @thatguy9040
      @thatguy9040 Рік тому

      what you need to understand is that ( Nasseh and Mansooh ) there are stated laws in Qura'an and there are their alternatives for example as muslim I can go conquest none-Islamic countries ( the violent way ) but in order to do so I have to apply the conditions of the prophet when he said ( don't kill armless men , don't kill women nither child , don't kill any guy in the shelter or in temples , don't kill any animals and trees moreover, don't you dare of treachery , and make your sincerity to allah ) [Sahih Albukhari] and I can go with alternative way which is the peaceful way as Qura'an says : ( Allah does not forbid you to be kind and to act justly to those who have neither made war on your Religion nor expelled you from your homes. Allah loves the just. )
      In Islam I got to options none of them says I can kill a guy because he is not muslim

    • @horustrismegistus1017
      @horustrismegistus1017 Рік тому

      @ThatGuy You are a heathen shameless liar. There are SEVERAL passages about violence against the nonbeliever
      Surah 3:151: "We shall cast t rror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …"
      Surah 2:191: "And k ll them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … k ll them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."
      Surah 9:5: "Then k ll the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …"
      Sura 5:33 says about infidels, “They shall be sl**n or cruc fied, or have their hands and feet cut off.”
      I literally can't even type the crap you blood worshippers believe without globalist traitors at youtube deleting them to help you spread your agenda through "Taqiyya".

    • @celsus7979
      @celsus7979 Рік тому +1

      You just said 'i can go conquer non muslim countries'
      How do you suppose that works without killing?
      The first generation example is all-revealing: within years after muhammed's death his followers were killing each other over who should lead and what interpretation is right.
      Remember that they were taught by muhammed, and this was the 'logical' thing to do.

    • @celsus7979
      @celsus7979 Рік тому +1

      One more thing..
      Sparing women only to make them slaves, and muhammed giving muslims permission to rape enslaved women, is just another example of barbarism that we no longer accept.
      Sex slaves alone should make you question muhammed and islam. It is disgusting.

    • @Priya-bt3oj
      @Priya-bt3oj Рік тому

      @@thatguy9040 How beautifully can you people tell lies... I sometimes wonder is it in your blood or is it because you people are so brain washed that no logic seems to prevail

  • @anangelsdiaries
    @anangelsdiaries Рік тому +6

    There's something really amusing about someone shaking their head in disbelief and mockery as someone slowly and methodically destroys their points.

  • @godisincontrol4527
    @godisincontrol4527 Рік тому +7

    Welldone David and AP!Again, you’ve done so well in showing how hypocritical islam representatives can be. These folks are so much in denial it’s actually. shameful! Islam is a violent religion, founded by a violent man and no one can honestly defend that. Trying to, only shows one’s ignorance! I think Nadir should retire- he is really terrible!!

  • @conociendoelislam85
    @conociendoelislam85 Рік тому +70

    Those two muslims guys teached us, how to do a "perfect" dawah, take from your holy book only those verses that are "good" for your religion",twist all those verses that make look bad your religion or denied all them, invent new definitions for the subject they are discussing...show to your oponent how bad is his/her religion and later "say all lies you can say in order to protect your religion"

    • @apostate9397
      @apostate9397 Рік тому +10

      taqiyyah

    • @Nitin_sirohe
      @Nitin_sirohe Рік тому +5

      if so called Allah ( prophet himself actually) give a bad immoral verse why dnt u remove it, if u dare।

    • @brotherben4357
      @brotherben4357 Рік тому +3

      @@apostate9397 It’s not taqiyya. They really just think that Islam is a perfect religion. Like most, they are good people.

    • @apostate9397
      @apostate9397 Рік тому +2

      @@brotherben4357
      They think ?
      What makes them blind ?

    • @brotherben4357
      @brotherben4357 Рік тому +4

      @@apostate9397 Ondoctrination from childhood.

  • @yous.2963
    @yous.2963 Рік тому +26

    Us: is islam violent?
    Messenger muhammed: hold my sword.

  • @drake3116
    @drake3116 3 місяці тому +3

    Why no muslim ever can answer a single question and always just beat around the bush and try to change topic? 😅
    ,,Are you afraaaaid, booooi?" 😂😂😂

  • @martinjonsson3165
    @martinjonsson3165 6 місяців тому +4

    Wow, they got ran through and robbed of every argument they brought forward and ended up with ''u are bad man because u speak bad of islam and think same of us all'' .

  • @ishaangarg9083
    @ishaangarg9083 Рік тому +223

    Right pointed out at 12:04 by David. CONVERT, FLEE OR DIE were the 3 options given to Kashmiri Hindus during their genocide and exodus from Kashmir, also there were slogans that they want Kashmir with Hindu women but not Hindu men. Moreover there is very visible pattern of not only violence but also governance in the name of Islam in the states where muslims are in majority in India. Recent crackdown on a muslim organisation PFI funded from outside, by the intelligence agency in India because of its involvement in communal violence, murders (specifically beheading of a people who stood in support of a Nupur Sharma), riots and its goal to make India an islamic nation by 2040 revealed through documents confiscated during the raid, clearly points to Islam being violent.

    • @RojaJaneman
      @RojaJaneman Рік тому +25

      It’s been done everywhere they went. Literally. Please read global history

    • @finalarbitrator4551
      @finalarbitrator4551 Рік тому +5

      @@RojaJaneman Yes indeed.

    • @tobyc8668
      @tobyc8668 Рік тому +17

      @@RojaJaneman
      It is specifically taught and encouraged in their scriptures (Quran, Hadiths, Fiqh) against disbelievers of Muhammad the false prophet .

    • @eva4adam451
      @eva4adam451 Рік тому

      That is the main reason why they bring so many muslims into Europe.

    • @eva4adam451
      @eva4adam451 Рік тому

      @@ahmadulkabir1249 CP is not talking about special groups or persons.
      He explains from the coran and from the bible perspective.
      Red blue white names could be Jewish.
      But also: after Napolean all people had to take a name. So some took names like : bornnaked of smallshitties. Just because they thought is was temporary.

  • @michaelceasar
    @michaelceasar Рік тому +48

    *Nadir attacked himself in this debate*

    • @vStoned
      @vStoned Рік тому +2

      Hurt himself in confusion

    • @miguelquintana8076
      @miguelquintana8076 4 місяці тому +1

      He was doing damage control on himself.

  • @innerufomaker
    @innerufomaker 11 місяців тому +4

    I wish we could get an IQ test of the four guests. Then we would know why the muslims' arguments don't make any sense.

  • @user-vd6wb5ef8v
    @user-vd6wb5ef8v 6 місяців тому +2

    Islam indeed does not call upon killing INNOCENT people. Yet it defines as NOT INNOCENT those who do not believe in Quoran, or who make jokes etc

  • @billmurray3264
    @billmurray3264 Рік тому +14

    Nadir: "Islam is the most peaceful religion because it's got the right balance of war and peace"
    Me: "But shouldn't the most peaceful religion not have war nor violence of any kind at all?!"
    Nadir: "Well no, because Mohammed waged conquistadorial wars to conquer lands and we believe in him as the true peaceful prophet"
    Me: "Oh... :/"

  • @truthserumbackup4151
    @truthserumbackup4151 Рік тому +66

    If islam was peaceful, 4:34 would not exist among tens of verses that promote the hatred and bigotry of non muslims.

    • @elsan2380
      @elsan2380 Рік тому +1

      MANY MANY MANY verse in quran and shahih hadits said islam isn't peaceful. They only say the word "peaceful" but their verses say the opposite. For example, don't greet Christian and Jews before they greet you, plus if you meet them, force them to the narrowest part. That's stupid command from false prophet muhammad piss be upon him.

    • @apostate9397
      @apostate9397 Рік тому

      Islam is only religion (ideology) , where it is holy to kill and fight with non - muslims . This is not the case in any other religion.
      The meaning is very clear that there is something wrong in the book of Islam.
      "Islam takes advantage of two structural flaws that exist in the Western society. One is political correctness and other is the decline of morality"
      Ali Sina

    • @livingwell5892
      @livingwell5892 Рік тому +8

      They will cry "it doesn't say what it says" "

    • @justinarzola4584
      @justinarzola4584 Рік тому

      Buddhism is the real religion of peace.

    • @rudvannistelroy1945
      @rudvannistelroy1945 Рік тому

      100% islam is not peaceful.The koran teaches hatred to others faith by calling them najis and kafirs

  • @isaacinamerica4005
    @isaacinamerica4005 Рік тому +5

    I’m glad that i left islam

  • @Jesus_MyLordandMyGod
    @Jesus_MyLordandMyGod 7 місяців тому +2

    It seems that the one and only strategy of Islamist apologetics is gaslight gaslight gaslight.

  • @dqschannel
    @dqschannel Рік тому +32

    Nadir still making a fool of himself..

  • @AbrarKhan-hz2mm
    @AbrarKhan-hz2mm Рік тому +363

    This is hilarious even these both Muslim apologists don't agree with each other's interpretation of Quran, this should tell you everything that you need to know about Islam.
    Well done AP and David, keep exposing this evil cult! God bless you both 🙏 ✝✝✝

    • @justinarzola4584
      @justinarzola4584 Рік тому

      The fact most Muslims don't agree on anything in their own books shows how illogical the cult really is.

    • @Xtjiggzs
      @Xtjiggzs Рік тому

      Yea. Islam is whatever you make it to be

    • @iiconicblossom7008
      @iiconicblossom7008 Рік тому +7

      Yeah and you got the Bible that that is has been messed with over the years and doesn't make sense, can you explain that?

    • @AbrarKhan-hz2mm
      @AbrarKhan-hz2mm Рік тому +39

      @@iiconicblossom7008 It makes a lot of sense hence I left islam and converted to Christanity!

    • @paulyg3776
      @paulyg3776 Рік тому +27

      May the Spaghetti Monster bless you all with his noodly appendages while he circles a teapot near Mars.

  • @buzzlightyear3530
    @buzzlightyear3530 7 місяців тому +2

    LOL, Ahmed's first comment was to bring in Christianity.
    These guys just can't talk about Islam independently. Leave Islam and become a human.

  • @ivonhiero1676
    @ivonhiero1676 3 місяці тому +2

    Mohammad made an oath there was no other religions on all Arab except Islam. Tell me how can that achieve without slaughtering others???😅

  • @Kafirman666
    @Kafirman666 Рік тому +55

    the hypocrisy of Nadir who only uses Hadiths when it suits him while dismissing it entirely when it's used against him 🤦

    • @mohamedamineharbeoui1203
      @mohamedamineharbeoui1203 Рік тому

      Biblical verses 😍
      Deuteronomy 12
      Revised Standard Version
      12 “These are the statutes and ordinances which you shall be careful to do in the land which the Lord, the God of your fathers, has given you to possess, all the days that you live upon the earth. 2 You shall surely destroy all the places where the nations whom you shall dispossess served their gods, upon the high mountains and upon the hills and under every green tree; 3 you shall tear down their altars, and dash in pieces their pillars, and burn their Ashe′rim with fire; you shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy their name out of that place. 4 You shall not do so to the Lord your God. 5 But you shall seek the place which the Lord your God will choose out of all your tribes to put his name and make his habitation there; thither you shall go, 6 and thither you shall bring your burnt offerings and your sacrifices, your tithes and the offering that you present, your votive offerings, your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herd and of your flock; 7 and there you shall eat before the Lord your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your households, in all that you undertake, in which the Lord your God has blessed you. 8 You shall not do according to all that we are doing here this day, every man doing whatever is right in his own eyes; 9 for you have not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance which the Lord your God gives you. 10 But when you go over the Jordan, and live in the land which the Lord your God gives you to inherit, and when he gives you rest from all your enemies round about, so that you live in safety, 11 then to the place which the Lord your God will choose, to make his name dwell there, thither you shall bring all that I command you: your burnt offerings and your sacrifices, your tithes and the offering that you present, and all your votive offerings which you vow to the Lord. 12 And you shall rejoice before the Lord your God, you and your sons and your daughters, your menservants and your maidservants, and the Levite that is within your towns, since he has no portion or inheritance with you. 13 Take heed that you do not offer your burnt offerings at every place that you see; 14 but at the place which the Lord will choose in one of your tribes, there you shall offer your burnt offerings, and there you shall do all that I am commanding you.
      Exodus 31:15
      King James Version
      Exodus 31:15
      15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
      Leviticus 24:16
      New International Version
      Leviticus 24:16
      16 anyone who blasphemes(A) the name of the Lord is to be put to death.(B) The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.
      New International Version
      Leviticus 20:9
      9 “‘Anyone who curses their father(A) or mother(B) is to be put to death.(C) Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.(D)
      Leviticus 20:10-20
      New International Version
      10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife(A)-with the wife of his neighbor-both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.(B)
      11 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his father’s wife, he has dishonored his father.(C) Both the man and the woman are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.(D)
      12 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law,(E) both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.
      13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.(F) They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
      14 “‘If a man marries both a woman and her mother,(G) it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire,(H) so that no wickedness will be among you.(I)
      15 “‘If a man has sexual relations with an animal,(J) he is to be put to death,(K) and you must kill the animal.
      16 “‘If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
      Leviticus 25:44-46
      New International Version
      Leviticus 25:44-46
      44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly

    • @mohamedamineharbeoui1203
      @mohamedamineharbeoui1203 Рік тому

      This is what the book says:
      بسم لله الرحمن الرحيم
      CHAPTER 3 VERSES 133_134
      وَسَارِعُوٓا۟ إِلَىٰ مَغْفِرَةٍ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَجَنَّةٍ عَرْضُهَا ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتُ وَٱلْأَرْضُ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ
      Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous,-
      ٱلَّذِينَ يُنفِقُونَ فِى ٱلسَّرَّآءِ وَٱلضَّرَّآءِ وَٱلْكَٰظِمِينَ ٱلْغَيْظَ وَٱلْعَافِينَ عَنِ ٱلنَّاسِ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ يُحِبُّ ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ
      Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity, or in adversity; who restrain anger, and pardon (all) men;- for Allah loves those who do good;-
      CHAPTER 5 VERSE 13
      فَٱعْفُ عَنْهُمْ وَٱصْفَحْ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ
      but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind.
      The story of the calf and samiri mosses told him you can go also God is showing himself thats he's God of mercy, ALSO GOD DOESN'T CHANGE HE'S WORD I HAVE ANOTHER VERSE FOR THAT.WE HAVE TO PARDON PEOPLES EVEN IN SEDITION.
      CHAPTER 20 VERSES 95_98
      قَالَ فَمَا خَطْبُكَ يَٰسَٰمِرِىُّ
      (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri?"
      قَالَ بَصُرْتُ بِمَا لَمْ يَبْصُرُوا۟ بِهِۦ فَقَبَضْتُ قَبْضَةً مِّنْ أَثَرِ ٱلرَّسُولِ فَنَبَذْتُهَا وَكَذَٰلِكَ سَوَّلَتْ لِى نَفْسِى
      He replied: "I saw what they saw not: so I took a handful (of dust) from the footprint of the Messenger, and threw it (into the calf): thus did my soul suggest to me."
      قَالَ فَٱذْهَبْ فَإِنَّ لَكَ فِى ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ أَن تَقُولَ لَا مِسَاسَ ۖ وَإِنَّ لَكَ مَوْعِدًا لَّن تُخْلَفَهُۥ ۖ وَٱنظُرْ إِلَىٰٓ إِلَٰهِكَ ٱلَّذِى ظَلْتَ عَلَيْهِ عَاكِفًا ۖ لَّنُحَرِّقَنَّهُۥ ثُمَّ لَنَنسِفَنَّهُۥ فِى ٱلْيَمِّ نَسْفًا
      (Moses) said: "Get thee gone! but thy (punishment) in this life will be that thou wilt say, 'touch me not'; and moreover (for a future penalty) thou hast a promise that will not fail: Now look at thy god, of whom thou hast become a devoted worshipper: We will certainly (melt) it in a blazing fire and scatter it broadcast in the sea!"
      إِنَّمَآ إِلَٰهُكُمُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِى لَآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۚ وَسِعَ كُلَّ شَىْءٍ عِلْمًا
      But the god of you all is the One Allah: there is no god but He: all things He comprehends in His knowledge.
      CHAPTER 5 VERSE 34
      وَلَقَدْ كُذِّبَتْ رُسُلٌ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَصَبَرُوا۟ عَلَىٰ مَا كُذِّبُوا۟ وَأُوذُوا۟ حَتَّىٰٓ أَتَىٰهُمْ نَصْرُنَا ۚ وَلَا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمَٰتِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَآءَكَ مِن نَّبَإِى۟ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ
      Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers.
      CHAPTER 2 VERSE 256
      لَآ إِكْرَاهَ فِى ٱلدِّينِ ۖ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ ٱلرُّشْدُ مِنَ ٱلْغَىِّ ۚ فَمَن يَكْفُرْ بِٱلطَّٰغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِنۢ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدِ ٱسْتَمْسَكَ بِٱلْعُرْوَةِ ٱلْوُثْقَىٰ لَا ٱنفِصَامَ لَهَا ۗ وَٱللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ
      Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
      CHAPTER 36 VERSES 67_68
      GOD PROMISE DISBELIEVERS LONG LIFE,BECAUSE HEREAFTER IS EVERYTHING.
      وَلَوْ نَشَآءُ لَمَسَخْنَٰهُمْ عَلَىٰ مَكَانَتِهِمْ فَمَا ٱسْتَطَٰعُوا۟ مُضِيًّا وَلَا يَرْجِعُونَ
      And if it had been Our Will, We could have transformed them (to remain) in their places; then should they have been unable to move about, nor could they have returned (after error)
      وَمَن نُّعَمِّرْهُ نُنَكِّسْهُ فِى ٱلْخَلْقِ ۖ أَفَلَا يَعْقِلُونَ
      If We grant long life to any, We cause him to be reversed in nature: Will they not then understand?
      Islam against terrorism

    • @mohamedamineharbeoui1203
      @mohamedamineharbeoui1203 Рік тому

      ARE CHILDRENS OF ADAM CHILDRENS OF ISRAEL NOPE GOD SAID HUMANITY WAS ONE NATION .
      CHAPTER 5 VERSES 27_32
      وَٱتْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ نَبَأَ ٱبْنَىْ ءَادَمَ بِٱلْحَقِّ إِذْ قَرَّبَا قُرْبَانًا فَتُقُبِّلَ مِنْ أَحَدِهِمَا وَلَمْ يُتَقَبَّلْ مِنَ ٱلْءَاخَرِ قَالَ لَأَقْتُلَنَّكَ ۖ قَالَ إِنَّمَا يَتَقَبَّلُ ٱللَّهُ مِنَ ٱلْمُتَّقِينَ
      Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to Allah): It was accepted from one, but not from the other. Said the latter: "Be sure I will slay thee." "Surely," said the former, "Allah doth accept of the sacrifice of those who are righteous.
      لَئِنۢ بَسَطتَ إِلَىَّ يَدَكَ لِتَقْتُلَنِى مَآ أَنَا۠ بِبَاسِطٍ يَدِىَ إِلَيْكَ لِأَقْتُلَكَ ۖ إِنِّىٓ أَخَافُ ٱللَّهَ رَبَّ ٱلْعَٰلَمِينَ
      "If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear Allah, the cherisher of the worlds.
      إِنِّىٓ أُرِيدُ أَن تَبُوٓأَ بِإِثْمِى وَإِثْمِكَ فَتَكُونَ مِنْ أَصْحَٰبِ ٱلنَّارِ ۚ وَذَٰلِكَ جَزَٰٓؤُا۟ ٱلظَّٰلِمِينَ
      For me, I intend to let thee draw on thyself my sin as well as thine, for thou wilt be among the companions of the fire, and that is the reward of those who do wrong."
      فَطَوَّعَتْ لَهُۥ نَفْسُهُۥ قَتْلَ أَخِيهِ فَقَتَلَهُۥ فَأَصْبَحَ مِنَ ٱلْخَٰسِرِينَ
      The (selfish) soul of the other led him to the murder of his brother: he murdered him, and became (himself) one of the lost ones.
      فَبَعَثَ ٱللَّهُ غُرَابًا يَبْحَثُ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ لِيُرِيَهُۥ كَيْفَ يُوَٰرِى سَوْءَةَ أَخِيهِ ۚ قَالَ يَٰوَيْلَتَىٰٓ أَعَجَزْتُ أَنْ أَكُونَ مِثْلَ هَٰذَا ٱلْغُرَابِ فَأُوَٰرِىَ سَوْءَةَ أَخِى ۖ فَأَصْبَحَ مِنَ ٱلنَّٰدِمِينَ
      Then Allah sent a raven, who scratched the ground, to show him how to hide the shame of his brother. "Woe is me!" said he; "Was I not even able to be as this raven, and to hide the shame of my brother?" then he became full of regrets-
      مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِىٓ إِسْرَٰٓءِيلَ أَنَّهُۥ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًۢا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ ٱلنَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَآ أَحْيَا ٱلنَّاسَ جَمِيعًا ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَآءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِٱلْبَيِّنَٰتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ
      On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
      CHAPTER 10 VERSE 19
      وَمَا كَانَ ٱلنَّاسُ إِلَّآ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً فَٱخْتَلَفُوا۟ ۚ وَلَوْلَا كَلِمَةٌ سَبَقَتْ مِن رَّبِّكَ لَقُضِىَ بَيْنَهُمْ فِيمَا فِيهِ يَخْتَلِفُونَ
      Mankind was but one nation, but differed (later). Had it not been for a word that went forth before from thy Lord, their differences would have been settled between them
      Islam against terrorism.
      CHAPTER 2 VERSE 109
      وَدَّ كَثِيرٌ مِّنْ أَهْلِ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ لَوْ يَرُدُّونَكُم مِّنۢ بَعْدِ إِيمَٰنِكُمْ كُفَّارًا حَسَدًا مِّنْ عِندِ أَنفُسِهِم مِّنۢ بَعْدِ مَا تَبَيَّنَ لَهُمُ ٱلْحَقُّ ۖ فَٱعْفُوا۟ وَٱصْفَحُوا۟ حَتَّىٰ يَأْتِىَ ٱللَّهُ بِأَمْرِهِۦٓ ۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىْءٍ قَدِيرٌ
      Quite a number of the People of the Book wish they could Turn you (people) back to infidelity after ye have believed, from selfish envy, after the Truth hath become Manifest unto them: But forgive and overlook, Till Allah accomplish His purpose; for Allah Hath power over all things.
      CHAPTER 15 VERSE 85
      وَمَا خَلَقْنَا ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَآ إِلَّا بِٱلْحَقِّ ۗ وَإِنَّ ٱلسَّاعَةَ لَءَاتِيَةٌ ۖ فَٱصْفَحِ ٱلصَّفْحَ ٱلْجَمِيلَ
      We created not the heavens, the earth, and all between them, but for just ends. And the Hour is surely coming (when this will be manifest). So overlook (any human faults) with gracious forgiveness.

    • @Kafirman666
      @Kafirman666 Рік тому +5

      @@mohamedamineharbeoui1203
      I am an ex-Muslim and I am not a christian and I am not interested in your BS preaching. Also trying to prove that Christianity is violent doesn't prove Islam isn't.. but I guess you are so re-tarded to even understand that. oh and Arabic is my mother language which means I can read and understand the context and I can read Tafsir books and Islamic jurisprudence..I have direct access to Islamic Arabic sources to know for a fact that Islam is Violent.

    • @mohamedamineharbeoui1203
      @mohamedamineharbeoui1203 Рік тому

      @@Kafirman666 islam is not violent if you was an ex Muslim you would know do you know those verses:
      This is what the book says:
      بسم لله الرحمن الرحيم
      CHAPTER 3 VERSES 133_134
      وَسَارِعُوٓا۟ إِلَىٰ مَغْفِرَةٍ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَجَنَّةٍ عَرْضُهَا ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتُ وَٱلْأَرْضُ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ
      Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous,-
      ٱلَّذِينَ يُنفِقُونَ فِى ٱلسَّرَّآءِ وَٱلضَّرَّآءِ وَٱلْكَٰظِمِينَ ٱلْغَيْظَ وَٱلْعَافِينَ عَنِ ٱلنَّاسِ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ يُحِبُّ ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ
      Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity, or in adversity; who restrain anger, and pardon (all) men;- for Allah loves those who do good;-
      CHAPTER 5 VERSE 13
      فَٱعْفُ عَنْهُمْ وَٱصْفَحْ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ
      but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind.
      The story of the calf and samiri mosses told him you can go also God is showing himself thats he's God of mercy, ALSO GOD DOESN'T CHANGE HE'S WORD I HAVE ANOTHER VERSE FOR THAT.WE HAVE TO PARDON PEOPLES EVEN IN SEDITION.
      CHAPTER 20 VERSES 95_98
      قَالَ فَمَا خَطْبُكَ يَٰسَٰمِرِىُّ
      (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri?"
      قَالَ بَصُرْتُ بِمَا لَمْ يَبْصُرُوا۟ بِهِۦ فَقَبَضْتُ قَبْضَةً مِّنْ أَثَرِ ٱلرَّسُولِ فَنَبَذْتُهَا وَكَذَٰلِكَ سَوَّلَتْ لِى نَفْسِى
      He replied: "I saw what they saw not: so I took a handful (of dust) from the footprint of the Messenger, and threw it (into the calf): thus did my soul suggest to me."
      قَالَ فَٱذْهَبْ فَإِنَّ لَكَ فِى ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ أَن تَقُولَ لَا مِسَاسَ ۖ وَإِنَّ لَكَ مَوْعِدًا لَّن تُخْلَفَهُۥ ۖ وَٱنظُرْ إِلَىٰٓ إِلَٰهِكَ ٱلَّذِى ظَلْتَ عَلَيْهِ عَاكِفًا ۖ لَّنُحَرِّقَنَّهُۥ ثُمَّ لَنَنسِفَنَّهُۥ فِى ٱلْيَمِّ نَسْفًا
      (Moses) said: "Get thee gone! but thy (punishment) in this life will be that thou wilt say, 'touch me not'; and moreover (for a future penalty) thou hast a promise that will not fail: Now look at thy god, of whom thou hast become a devoted worshipper: We will certainly (melt) it in a blazing fire and scatter it broadcast in the sea!"
      إِنَّمَآ إِلَٰهُكُمُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِى لَآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۚ وَسِعَ كُلَّ شَىْءٍ عِلْمًا
      But the god of you all is the One Allah: there is no god but He: all things He comprehends in His knowledge.
      CHAPTER 5 VERSE 34
      وَلَقَدْ كُذِّبَتْ رُسُلٌ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَصَبَرُوا۟ عَلَىٰ مَا كُذِّبُوا۟ وَأُوذُوا۟ حَتَّىٰٓ أَتَىٰهُمْ نَصْرُنَا ۚ وَلَا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمَٰتِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَآءَكَ مِن نَّبَإِى۟ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ
      Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers.
      CHAPTER 2 VERSE 256
      لَآ إِكْرَاهَ فِى ٱلدِّينِ ۖ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ ٱلرُّشْدُ مِنَ ٱلْغَىِّ ۚ فَمَن يَكْفُرْ بِٱلطَّٰغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِنۢ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدِ ٱسْتَمْسَكَ بِٱلْعُرْوَةِ ٱلْوُثْقَىٰ لَا ٱنفِصَامَ لَهَا ۗ وَٱللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ
      Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
      CHAPTER 36 VERSES 67_68
      GOD PROMISE DISBELIEVERS LONG LIFE,BECAUSE HEREAFTER IS EVERYTHING.
      وَلَوْ نَشَآءُ لَمَسَخْنَٰهُمْ عَلَىٰ مَكَانَتِهِمْ فَمَا ٱسْتَطَٰعُوا۟ مُضِيًّا وَلَا يَرْجِعُونَ
      And if it had been Our Will, We could have transformed them (to remain) in their places; then should they have been unable to move about, nor could they have returned (after error)
      وَمَن نُّعَمِّرْهُ نُنَكِّسْهُ فِى ٱلْخَلْقِ ۖ أَفَلَا يَعْقِلُونَ
      If We grant long life to any, We cause him to be reversed in nature: Will they not then understand?
      Islam against terrorism

  • @MrYelly
    @MrYelly Рік тому +19

    Debate topic: Is Islam violent?
    Nadir: Noooo, nooo, islam is just flexible

    • @yous.2963
      @yous.2963 Рік тому +1

      Us: is islam violent? momoomg
      Messenger muhammed: hold my sword.

  • @Sammedi1
    @Sammedi1 Рік тому +4

    If confidence could win debates Nadir would be INVINCIBLE

  • @Ameydusa1
    @Ameydusa1 6 місяців тому +2

    ALL of the positive things about Islam were already in Christianity

  • @kenyachristianapologeticsp9635
    @kenyachristianapologeticsp9635 Рік тому +20

    I have never hear a debate about "Is Christianity violence"?
    All the debate since Muhammad were about Islam and violence

    • @Nonamam
      @Nonamam Рік тому

      Christianity is certainly violent, pisslam is a baby in front of it. They're are some good debates, check them out.

    • @davorfisic9626
      @davorfisic9626 Рік тому

      Has Jesus been violent to chop of a head of a man???... NO. Has Mohammad been violent to chop the had of a man????... YES Mohammad chopped many heads. Here you have your answer, do not look to fallowers in formation look to the messenger and their example and you will discover that Mohamad is not worthy to kiss the feet of Jesus

    • @friendo6257
      @friendo6257 Рік тому +1

      That's because the catholic church didn't debate during the inquisition. They just kidnapped and tortured people :)

    • @tariqspaulding8034
      @tariqspaulding8034 3 місяці тому

      Unitarian & Trinitarian Christian war

  • @BLACK.ANGEL.
    @BLACK.ANGEL. Рік тому +155

    David: *"Abu Bakr said..."*
    Nadir: *"Yeah, but Chuck Schumer said..."*
    AP: *"Muhammad said..."*
    Nadir: *"Whatever, General David Patreaus said..."*
    Schumer & Patreaus *>* Muhammad & Abu Bakr

    • @Ruby-G
      @Ruby-G Рік тому +6

      😂😂😂

    • @jmanzani6450
      @jmanzani6450 Рік тому +16

      In his debate with Michael Brown his source of authority was Time magazine and Google! 😂

    • @chomo54andbabyaisha97
      @chomo54andbabyaisha97 Рік тому +6

      @@jmanzani6450 I remember that, so shameful of abdoool nadir

    • @dbwillrise8
      @dbwillrise8 Рік тому +10

      Imagine taking anything Chuck Schumer says seriously.🤣🤣

    • @chomo54andbabyaisha97
      @chomo54andbabyaisha97 Рік тому +4

      @@dbwillrise8 his many antifa followers do take him seriously though, especially when he commands violence

  • @joshflanders9535
    @joshflanders9535 6 місяців тому +2

    Islam seems crazier everyday I still dont understand how people involved with it.

  • @magnumopus1628
    @magnumopus1628 Рік тому +297

    12:33
    Gotta love how just after providing all the necessary info to understand that Islam is indeed violent, DW suddenly became the "PERFECT DAWAH". 😅😂🤣

    • @ApostateProphet
      @ApostateProphet  Рік тому +132

    • @RojaJaneman
      @RojaJaneman Рік тому +33

      @@ApostateProphet did u get ur own emoji?

    • @antonc81
      @antonc81 Рік тому +33

      @@ApostateProphet you can’t let that go AP, next time you talk to him introduce him as David “perfect dawah” Wood! 😂

    • @kenkola3208
      @kenkola3208 Рік тому +4

      Lmaooooo

    • @grandmelkolmnyan9061
      @grandmelkolmnyan9061 Рік тому +7

      @@ApostateProphet А Р ✌👍🏼♥️

  • @conociendoelislam85
    @conociendoelislam85 Рік тому +40

    So Islam is violent but it is okay because other idelogies are violent too!!, it is a very brillant argument!!, Becausa satanist cults are also violent, so, are those good and true?... Is that the "muslim logic" here ? or am I misunderstanding this guy?

    • @chomo54andbabyaisha97
      @chomo54andbabyaisha97 Рік тому

      The thing is, that there are several indications that islame is a satan cult. For example, alLah is the best of deceivers, a title which can only be attributed to satan

    • @friendo6257
      @friendo6257 Рік тому

      Not just muslims use this kind of flawed logic. Christians do too

    • @tariqspaulding8034
      @tariqspaulding8034 3 місяці тому

      Unitarian & Trinitarian Christianity, Isaiah 45:7, Roman 3:7

  • @hello--w0rld
    @hello--w0rld 5 місяців тому +2

    Nadir said "in islam you can't go into a child bedroom and harm them. What happened on Oct 7th, big guy?

  • @curryman589
    @curryman589 Рік тому +3

    I love your videos and debates, you are crushing. Have you heard about the Swedish guy burning the Quran, the riots and the the turkish protests?

  • @gingercat68
    @gingercat68 Рік тому +22

    Spoiler alert: yes.

  • @zzzzppppooooo
    @zzzzppppooooo Рік тому +325

    Everytime I claim to have overcome my anger issues I can always count on Nadir to remind me of why I need daily repentance...this dude never fails to make a person's blood boil 😤

    • @mikegreen2229
      @mikegreen2229 Рік тому +23

      I yelled WTF a few times. It just blurted out. Followed by jaw dropping in amazement of his brainwashed thinking

    • @javageek123
      @javageek123 Рік тому +24

      So I am not the only one reaching boiling point. On the positive side, nadir made me bench way more, in rage.

    • @mikegreen2229
      @mikegreen2229 Рік тому +22

      @@javageek123 It was very cowardly how he tried to target AP with violence by disclosing his location.

    • @thunderous-one
      @thunderous-one Рік тому +13

      Dude, I’m 54 and working on my belligerence, just when I think I have conquered it, out comes Nadir Ahmed and another demonstration of lies/deflection/ad hominem/straw man/smoke and mirrors and I then proceed to relapse😡

    • @Hannestv4607
      @Hannestv4607 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/qtnmfNGh2qo/v-deo.html

  • @FullMetalAmerican
    @FullMetalAmerican 7 місяців тому +2

    Lies against the Orthodox Church, how original Islam.

  • @justlooking772
    @justlooking772 8 місяців тому +2

    ..what about the wife beatings ? ..what about the marriage of pre-pubescent children that can't physically have children because their body structure is immature ? ..what about killing all the dogs in a city ? ..etc

  • @SimplyPumpkins
    @SimplyPumpkins Рік тому +34

    Nadir has no shame. Got to hand it to him though, coming back again and again after being destroyed so many times

    • @beanybeansable
      @beanybeansable Рік тому +2

      He's kind of like a t1000 but made of candlewax.

    • @ndjibukabengele973
      @ndjibukabengele973 Рік тому +4

      You have heard of the saying: " a coward dies a 1000 times but a soldier dies but once. I mean by this that a liar lies a 1000 times but a honest person lies but once.

  • @liviapopsor8242
    @liviapopsor8242 4 місяці тому +2

    Omg. Those Muslims are really trying not to answer any questions, to waste the time, and to make loose your cool. Congrats on the AP and David Wood. God bless you all five. Yes, my Lord bless you all with health and wisdom. 🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @user-gk1zx6yx3q
    @user-gk1zx6yx3q Рік тому +53

    19:14 Dear Nadir Ahmed, Ukrainians and Russians aren't fighting over religion, but over territory. NATO surrounded Russia, and war was invitable. This is how politics works, unfortunately. Please do not mix that with religion, because both Ukrainians and Russians are having similar culture and religion, it is really disrespectful to compare this war to Islam.

    • @brianritzpatrick4737
      @brianritzpatrick4737 Рік тому

      Politics and religion go hand in hand maybe you just didnt like what you heard

    • @user-gk1zx6yx3q
      @user-gk1zx6yx3q Рік тому +14

      @@brianritzpatrick4737 Of course they do, but in this concept - that doesn't make any sense. Because russians and ukrainians literally have two same religions: orthodox christianity and orthodox christianity. The guy literally said something which was totally not comparable.

    • @rasmuszaurins7233
      @rasmuszaurins7233 Рік тому +2

      @@user-gk1zx6yx3q When was NATO going to seize russia? Very interesting.

    • @jasonduvall5010
      @jasonduvall5010 Рік тому

      Ahmed knows. He has 20+ year history of dishonest debating. When he debated Dr. Michael Brown over if Muhammad was prophesied in Deuteronomy 18 ( ua-cam.com/video/us9mGy7gKE0/v-deo.html ) , it was a mess. Later Dr. Brown found out Ahmed faked his representation of a charity in order to debate him ( ua-cam.com/video/UjLG42SUgz8/v-deo.html ).

    • @seijakarjalainen
      @seijakarjalainen Рік тому +3

      They do not belong to the same church. NATO is a defense organization you join voluntarily.

  • @civilisedhumanbeing
    @civilisedhumanbeing Рік тому +28

    35:14 "We are fighting Christian jihad in Ukraine right now" 😲I didn't know Nadir was Christian

    • @Avatinfernus
      @Avatinfernus Рік тому

      Almost everyone in Ukraine is of the same religion than Russians lol. What'd that be? The Orthodox church doing religious war on itself? kek.
      And it's not like the world is suporting or even remotely thinking the RoC are the good guys here. We know they're Kremlin puppets. Kirill (the RoC leader) is legit in EU sanction list, not like other christians love them at all.

    • @Kosmos12345678
      @Kosmos12345678 Рік тому +15

      There is no such thing. Lord Jesus the Christ *never* established a State for Christians like the Israelite Prophet Moses established a State for Israelites. Nadir knows that Christians are the Church and *not* the Gentile States but he lies to make his Islamic Caliphate look normal.

    • @ndjibukabengele973
      @ndjibukabengele973 Рік тому

      @@Kosmos12345678
      Islam is rooted in lies and manipulation like that.

    • @josepbroz3306
      @josepbroz3306 Рік тому

      The funny thing is, Muslims Fight on Russian side against Ukraine. Majority of troops are now from Chechen forces
      Muslims love dictators Like Hitler (Met the Mufti of Jerusalem) and Putin who praised the Muslim world and His Favorite Dog is Kadyrow, a muslim

  • @aradicaldude
    @aradicaldude 6 місяців тому +2

    Why does a Muslim instantly use what-about-isms when Islam is the topic? Can't he just have a debate on how Christianity is evil when the debate topic isn't about why Islam is evil? What a childish tactic. Is this suppose to convince anyone with critical thinking? Siting "good" verses and pointing a finger at bad Christians?

  • @im_not_political2026
    @im_not_political2026 6 місяців тому +2

    I found Nadir Ahmed's comments on the Eastern Romans to be hilariously pathetic apologetics on his part, not only because he totally misrepresents history, but also misrepresents the Islamic/Quranic view of Rome. (warning, long. tl;dr at the end).
    I'll go back an cite everything else I mentioned here so that you don't have to take my word for it. I felt Nadir was so suffocating with his narcissism and ignorance that I almost drowned in my chair. You two (AP and David Wood) have a lot of patience, so godspeed to you both if ever you have another debater as unbearable as Nadir.
    Long:
    Ar-Rum Verse 1 says all you need to know about how Muhammed, at least in the early years of the religion, favored the Eastern Roman Christians over the "fire worshiping" Persians. This is also because Khosroh, the Shah of Persia at the time, insulted Muhammad's envoys when they delivered the Aslim Taslam to his court. Meanwhile, Muhammed's letter to Heraclius not only refers to him saying " Peace be upon him, who follows the right path" (again this is likely earlier in Muhammed's time as a prophet, but a Sahih Al-Bukhari Book 1 Hadith 7 tells of Heraclius even accepting islam (immeasurable grain of salt here) but then pulling the first recorded 'it's just a prank bro' in islamic 'history'.
    So, while Heraclius could be considered an apostate, even later Muslim works would consider Heraclius in more favorable terms than Khosroh. There's even a nasheed that reads; "We are the ones who built our fortresses with skulls, we drove Khosroh's women with our whips to the slave market." This info can all be found in this video ua-cam.com/video/SMighc2Vmys/v-deo.html if you want to know more.
    Onto the actual claim Nadir makes, that the muslim armies of the Rashidun Caliphate 'stopped a possible holocaust', it's based on a report that Heraclius REJECTED the recommendation of his brother to exterminate the Jews of Edessa. This is not to say Heraclius was a saint, nor is it to say that the Jewish grievences against Rome at the time were not very much reasonable. It's also worth noting the Jews of Edessa supported the Persians by revolting against the Roman Empire, due to persecution as a minority in the Levant (which was by that time a majority Christian land). What it does show, however, is that if Nadir really believes the Rashidun Caliph 'stopped a holocaust' in the Levant, it would mean all those Islamic writings in favor of Heraclius show them SUPPORTING THE PERPETRATOR OF A 'HOLOCAUST'. As a Muslim, he could not look at Heraclius, say he wanted to 'genocide the jews' and not then say all those islamic writings (INCLUDING THE QURAN) which favor Heraclius don't lead to that conclusion.
    Sure, we can say Muhammed's view of Heraclius may have changed later in his life (which is a stretch given how much Heraclius is respected by Islamic historians and scholars), when he defined all Christians (with all Jews) as the worst of creation. But this is a moot point. Why? Because when the Rashidun Caliphate flooded mesopitamia and the levant, they left Heraclius' realm to Anatolia, while the entire Sassanid Empire was wiped out. That's already a pretty damning indication given what we know from earlier in this comment. It's also pretty obvious that the 'ummah in the Levant after the Rashidun conquest was weak, and that this more than anything else is the reason why the Muslims took a 'meh' approach to the Jews.
    Yes, the Jews were welcome back to Jerusalem (which was made illegal by the Romans) and had many restrictions lifted so long as they paid jizya. But it should be clear that the Caliphate wasn't in any way genuinely interested in 'religious toleration' so much as building up the strength of the 'ummah, collecting the intellectual fruits of Christian and Jewish artisans and scholars under their protection, and then removing all those protections Christians and Jews enjoyed when the time was right (by persecution and genocide if they saw fit). All the while waiting for 'Isa (jihadi jesus) to come down and lead them in war against the Jews as pointed our in the debate. And if that doesn't sound believable, we only need look at how the Zoroastrians were treated in Persia to get an idea, never mind the various violent persecutions and suppression of Christians and Jews by Islamic powers over the proceeding centuries.
    *tl;dr ) Nadir is not just false in his claim that the Rashidun Caliphate 'stopped a holocaust' by defeating the Romans, he's also failing to point out that by his own logic, Islamic scholars and Muhammed favored the supposedly genocidal Romans over the Persians who supported a Jewish revolt. His head is too far stuck up his own rear to think about that possibility.*

  • @elisdeliofa5570
    @elisdeliofa5570 Рік тому +126

    Thank you Nadir, you make me feel good and amazing to stay away from islam

    • @josepbroz3306
      @josepbroz3306 Рік тому +2

      @Zack Smith Ex Atheist?😆

    • @Hannestv4607
      @Hannestv4607 Рік тому

      Police Confirm NO RECORD of Uthman ibn Farooq STABBING EXPOSED
      as it seems he is a fairy tale teller

    • @josepbroz3306
      @josepbroz3306 Рік тому

      @Zack Smith Okay. Stay away from Islam

    • @josepbroz3306
      @josepbroz3306 Рік тому

      @Zack Smith If you were Born to a Christian Family, you are a convert. If you were Born to Muslim Family you never were Atheist to begin with. Either way brainwashed

    • @userisdead2121
      @userisdead2121 Рік тому +6

      And tnx david wood , he make me feel good and proud to be muslim

  • @20july1944
    @20july1944 Рік тому +27

    Spoiler alert, yes it is!

  • @MinisterRoy205
    @MinisterRoy205 Рік тому +2

    Nadir is so incredibly dishonest.
    accuse the bible of things, no reference given.
    at least AP and David can do that, Nadir can't

  • @jimg4369
    @jimg4369 7 місяців тому +2

    Is there a hadith called the department of Justice? What a bunch of clowns 😂😂😂

  • @bcfc18751
    @bcfc18751 Рік тому +84

    Muslims cannot get away from the truth that islam is a violent religion… without lies islam dies!! Got to give AP and DW credit for trying to stick to the topic!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧✝️🙏🏼

    • @Cheximus
      @Cheximus Рік тому

      Lol, enjoy living in Birmingham. The take over is real. RIP

    • @dkah8733
      @dkah8733 Рік тому

      Apostate Prophet you could be hindu and atheist at the same time (because of teological schools that don´t believe in God)

    • @ConjurintHorror
      @ConjurintHorror Рік тому

      I agree with you!!!!!

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 Рік тому

      @@Cheximuslol if u ever go to sparkhill or small heath It's literally Pakistan. The streets look identical

    • @Cheximus
      @Cheximus Рік тому

      @@couldbeanybody2508 no thanks. Staying well clear.

  • @lu9682
    @lu9682 6 місяців тому +1

    Jesus taught to be non-violent and gave his life to save the humankind. Never harmed a single person and taught not to respond the violence. Buddha abandoned his life as a prince and became a monk. Never harmed a single person or issued any fight. He found his inner peace and taught others the same
    Muhammed was a merchant but became a warlord and run his armies to numerous wars.
    Muslims: "Our religion is non-violent"
    😂😂😂😂
    P.S. I am an agnostic but definitely sympathise to Buddhism. They are the least violent guys

  • @OptimisticCynic45
    @OptimisticCynic45 Рік тому +8

    I have just found your channel, and as an atheist you are killing me! I am dying here lol

    • @wavy6099
      @wavy6099 Рік тому

      so you also have no life and love hating on islam without any knowledge.research.only relying on this guy and the media that focsuses on isis that isnt even muslim by definition of them and is an atheist? great me too!!!!

    • @OptimisticCynic45
      @OptimisticCynic45 Рік тому +1

      @@wavy6099 An atheist is someone who doesn’t believe in god -so your religion itself is irrelevant.

    • @munashemanamike4217
      @munashemanamike4217 Рік тому +1

      ​@@OptimisticCynic45Go easy on him bro I'm Christian and I'm sorry that it may seem forceful how it gets pushed to you they are just trying to help. But please don't hold that against us bro if you want to you can research any religion if you want and come to your own conclusion

  • @techi.k7872
    @techi.k7872 Рік тому +51

    As always, Nadir clearly knows he failed himself in defence of his arguments categorically but desperately trying to act cool & behave as confident as he can 😅..that's called real behavioural "spin" Mr. Nadir 😂😂😂

    • @benry007
      @benry007 Рік тому +2

      Loses every part of his argument and then starts saying "SEE THEY FLEE FROM THE KORAN!" every time they use other evidence. His start of debate prediction was effectively at some point they will reference something outside the Koran. He must be a prophet to predict something so well /s

    • @nooneinparticular2968
      @nooneinparticular2968 Рік тому

      That's the thing with Nadir, he doesn't know. He is too dumb to know how dumb he is.

    • @jmanzani6450
      @jmanzani6450 Рік тому +3

      That’s it…..he tries to act cool and confident while he talks complete nonsense.

    • @RLCJ934
      @RLCJ934 Рік тому

      I noticed also that..😂😂😂

  • @kenjohnston2531
    @kenjohnston2531 Рік тому +33

    The Sharia suggests Islam is violent.
    The Hedaya, Commentary of the Mussalman Laws.(Sharia, Scared Law) says on page 141
    "The destruction of the sword is incurred by the infidels, although they be not the first aggressors, as appears from various passages in the Sacred writings which are generally received with this effect."
    And the sidenote says:
    "Infidels may be attacked without provocation."
    "Whoever insults the Prophet is to be killed whether they are Muslim or a disbeliever."
    Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah in his book, "The Unsheathed Sword"

    • @conociendoelislam85
      @conociendoelislam85 Рік тому

      I know it! Islam is evil!!!

    • @Muhammad89125
      @Muhammad89125 Рік тому

      If i was to insult Jesus would you wanna kill me?

    • @ofimportance5458
      @ofimportance5458 Рік тому

      How reliable is this

    • @kenjohnston2531
      @kenjohnston2531 Рік тому

      @@ofimportance5458 The author of The Hedaya, Shaykh al-Islam Burhan al-Din al-Farghani al-Marghinani, was considered to be one of the most esteemed jurists of the Hanafite school of Islamic jurisprudence.
      And, Ibn Taymiyyah is one of the most influential medieval writers in contemporary Sunni Islam.
      There are many Sharia manuals and they all pretty much agree (Ijma, consensus of the scholars) on most issues.

    • @nazneenrizvi547
      @nazneenrizvi547 Рік тому

      @@kenjohnston2531 This can easily be debunked because in the Quran 5:32, it says “That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life-unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land-it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.1 ˹Although˺ Our messengers already came to them with clear proofs, many of them still transgressed afterwards through the land.”
      The Quran is a more reliable source then whatever you are spitting out for muslims
      Don’t listen to apostate prophet because in the outside you might think he is knowledgeable but he does not know the true Islam