Hi everyone - video timestamps as follows: 0:00 - Introduction to Topic 02:16 - Create a New Blockwork Wall Family Type in Revit: 06:26 - Using Work Plane Grids to Set out to Blockwork Sizes in Revit: 11:16 - Use Revit Detail Components to set out your Blockwork Courses: 17:54 - Use Snap Length Increments to set out Revit walls to Blockwork Intervals: 20:59 - Use Dimensions in Conjunction with Global Parameters to set out walls to Blockwork Intervals: 23:43 - Aligning Revit Blockwork Material Pattern to represent accurate blockwork courses. 26:56 - Ensuring your Revit Doors and Windows are Correctly Set out to Half Block Intervals: 32:18 - Detailing your Blockwork Courses Using Repeating Details: Hope you find the video helpful. If you like this content please support 8020BIM by buying me a (much needed) coffee: www.buymeacoffee.com/8020BIM Niall
One of the best Revit tutorials on youtube by far. Almost in middle of tutorial I came to read the comments and wondered how you put time on replying on comments with all details, so I punched the like and subscribe buttons as fast as I could :))) great content bro
Thanks for the very kind feedback. Truthfully I endeavour to reply to people who took the time out of their day to express an idea or ask a question related to the content, but sometimes I can be a bit longer getting around to responding than I would like. Thanks again, glad you found the video informative Mehrdad 👍 Niall
This is actually a great video. This is big problem I see with a lot of plans that are coming through now a days, not only masonry buildings but CFS/wood frame/etc as well. Having that grid system is really important when laying out walls for a building. For example, with a wood framed building, most building materials (sheathing/gypsum/siding/etc) are designed in 4' increments, so ideally you want your walls to be divisible by 4'. But man, I see so many plans that have the most random dimensions that are in half inch, 3/4 inch, an non-round able thicknesses that create so much waste and extra work for literally no reason, not to mention extra cost. I couldnt even imagine those masons having to cut slivers of blocks like that.
Thanks for the feedback Nick. I agree, generally speaking, I think there is too little attention given to the constructability and setting out when designing.
Wise guy here: 3. on using detail component to set out block work increments (roughly at minute 14:00), shouldn't you align the outer wall to the INNER line of the block line, as you will not have a mortar joint on the outside of the wall. You accounted that for in the global parameter formula by subtracting 10mm from the total wall length. Not that it would actually matter on site, as at this wall length the 10mm would be easily adjusted by tolerance. Great series on Revit you have here, one of the kind with usable detailed content. Keep up the superb work.
Dirk - You are wise indeed! Well spotted, I hadn't noticed! :D You are absolutely correct, I should have aligned to the inner line of the mortar joint shown on the detail component for the wall setout to be 100% accurate. I appreciate the positive feedback and hope you are finding value in the content so far. All the best Niall
Thanks for the feedback 🙂 I can do a detailed tutorial on stairs for sure, will put it on the (growing) list. May take a while to get to it with the requests starting to roll in but I will do my best to have it as soon as possible 😊 For a quick solution, I sometimes choose to forego the stringer arrangements on the Revit stairs and use beams to create the stringer members so I can choose how they cut and interface with the structural supports of the landings (most of the buildings I work with are Struct steel) and also for ease of scheduling stair support steel quantities. For Precast or Cast-in-situ concrete stairs the monolithic stair system family automatically joins to structural floors quite well and you can nominate the method which it connects to the landing (check out my previous video on 29 Ways to find things in Revit if you are struggling to locate the stair system families). So, as you can see, there are a few variables and approaches to consider all depending on the stair types and floor support structures.
I have revit 2019/2020 and under the imperial library- detail items, there is no annotation folder or "detail_items_coursing line for plan/ sections". I was wondering if you can either post those files or tell me where to look? They are definitely helpful and thanks for making a great tutorial.
Hi William, You can download all international Revit 2020 Content / Family packs from the following Autodesk Link: knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/downloads/caas/downloads/content/autodesk-revit-2020-content.html The one you are looking for is the United Kingdom package. Hope this helps and thanks a million for the positive feedback. Niall
Hi Shania, thanks for reaching out. Do you haev the UK Metric Library installed for REvit by any chance? It can be foudn in the detail items folder in there. Niall
Did I miss something or?, but there are mortar joints 10 mm, so in 20 block wall length you lost one half block?, am I right, hov to involve mortar joints, its not accurate....no doubt awesome video!!!
Hi Tomislav, Thanks for the comment. So, if you were to rewatch you would see that I mention to include the mortar joint in the overall block length. So a standard block would be 440, so at 450mm it is inclusive of the mortar joint. The one place I will admit an inaccuracy (which I only noticed afterwards) is that the end of the wall also includes that 10mm allowance where in reality there would be no mortar joint, so the wall should be pulled back 10mm. Hope this clarifies. 🙂 Niall.
@@8020BIM I embarrassed myself after I realized that I am rushing to comment, ofcourse you did, you did all right!, since I am trying to make a wall family for Australian standard block 190x390x190 running, firs I made plane with 195, but it should be 190 mm spacing. I need to solve vertical course line which makes me trouble for now. Said alot aye?, thanks for good video again!
@@tbijondagmail No need to be embarrassed at all Tomislav - as the block / brick incrememts are different all around the worlds you are definitely not the first person to ask about setting out :) All the best Niall
@@8020BIM If you don't mind, I would like to understand some general aspects of revit, let's say I created architectural template (by transferring families, etc.). I designed new house. Save it as a project. Then I want to go to do some structural elements. Question: do I need to have then structural template and link my architectural design in it?. And second question is: once I create family, is that family for architecture and structure template, or I have to make family separately for architecture template and family for structural template?. I hope my English is understandable. 😀
@@tbijondagmail Hi Tomislav - apologies I only noticed your question now. Correct workflow is for Structural and Architectural models to be independent, but aas with all of these things there is a level of nuance and practicality to keep in mind. In short, for domestic it may not be worth having independent files for each discipline, but it is dependent on many criteria whether you choose to work that way or not. Finally, with regards to families - any family from Arch / Struct can be present in each others template provided they parameters and visual presentation styles are suitable. It may not be suited to have Universal beams in you Architectural template for example, but perhaps on a certain scale of work it might make sense to have Timber Joists as part of your Arch template. Hope this gives you some insights to tinker with. Niall
Half Block / brick size is a standard interval as masonry workers can easily half a block, rather than cut at quarters or something similar. Hope this helps Niall
@@8020BIM Dose the half block size rule applied only for the horizontal measurement’s or there are also cases for the vertical measurement’s (block height)? Thanks
@@Gedrosia-Makran Hi there. You should be working to wall heights that match full block intervals as blocks generally are not split length ways on a construction site. Also, make sure not to forget your soap-bar or cavity closer blocks at the head of the wall when workign out how high it should be. All the best, Niall
Hi everyone - video timestamps as follows:
0:00 - Introduction to Topic
02:16 - Create a New Blockwork Wall Family Type in Revit:
06:26 - Using Work Plane Grids to Set out to Blockwork Sizes in Revit:
11:16 - Use Revit Detail Components to set out your Blockwork Courses:
17:54 - Use Snap Length Increments to set out Revit walls to Blockwork Intervals:
20:59 - Use Dimensions in Conjunction with Global Parameters to set out walls to Blockwork Intervals:
23:43 - Aligning Revit Blockwork Material Pattern to represent accurate blockwork courses.
26:56 - Ensuring your Revit Doors and Windows are Correctly Set out to Half Block Intervals:
32:18 - Detailing your Blockwork Courses Using Repeating Details:
Hope you find the video helpful.
If you like this content please support 8020BIM by buying me a (much needed) coffee:
www.buymeacoffee.com/8020BIM
Niall
One of the best Revit tutorials on youtube by far. Almost in middle of tutorial I came to read the comments and wondered how you put time on replying on comments with all details, so I punched the like and subscribe buttons as fast as I could :))) great content bro
Thanks for the very kind feedback. Truthfully I endeavour to reply to people who took the time out of their day to express an idea or ask a question related to the content, but sometimes I can be a bit longer getting around to responding than I would like. Thanks again, glad you found the video informative Mehrdad 👍
Niall
This is actually a great video. This is big problem I see with a lot of plans that are coming through now a days, not only masonry buildings but CFS/wood frame/etc as well. Having that grid system is really important when laying out walls for a building. For example, with a wood framed building, most building materials (sheathing/gypsum/siding/etc) are designed in 4' increments, so ideally you want your walls to be divisible by 4'. But man, I see so many plans that have the most random dimensions that are in half inch, 3/4 inch, an non-round able thicknesses that create so much waste and extra work for literally no reason, not to mention extra cost.
I couldnt even imagine those masons having to cut slivers of blocks like that.
Thanks for the feedback Nick. I agree, generally speaking, I think there is too little attention given to the constructability and setting out when designing.
Wise guy here: 3. on using detail component to set out block work increments (roughly at minute 14:00), shouldn't you align the outer wall to the INNER line of the block line, as you will not have a mortar joint on the outside of the wall. You accounted that for in the global parameter formula by subtracting 10mm from the total wall length. Not that it would actually matter on site, as at this wall length the 10mm would be easily adjusted by tolerance.
Great series on Revit you have here, one of the kind with usable detailed content. Keep up the superb work.
Dirk - You are wise indeed! Well spotted, I hadn't noticed! :D You are absolutely correct, I should have aligned to the inner line of the mortar joint shown on the detail component for the wall setout to be 100% accurate.
I appreciate the positive feedback and hope you are finding value in the content so far.
All the best
Niall
Thanks for you time D best one for using Revit.
Thanks for the kind words. Niall
great video!
Glad you found it informative.
Niall
Great tutorial as always Niall! Can you do one tutorial explaining how Revit stairs join/connect to floors and get correct data out of them?
Thanks for the feedback 🙂
I can do a detailed tutorial on stairs for sure, will put it on the (growing) list. May take a while to get to it with the requests starting to roll in but I will do my best to have it as soon as possible 😊
For a quick solution, I sometimes choose to forego the stringer arrangements on the Revit stairs and use beams to create the stringer members so I can choose how they cut and interface with the structural supports of the landings (most of the buildings I work with are Struct steel) and also for ease of scheduling stair support steel quantities. For Precast or Cast-in-situ concrete stairs the monolithic stair system family automatically joins to structural floors quite well and you can nominate the method which it connects to the landing (check out my previous video on 29 Ways to find things in Revit if you are struggling to locate the stair system families). So, as you can see, there are a few variables and approaches to consider all depending on the stair types and floor support structures.
Great Tutorial! I learned a lot. Thanks
No problem Antonio, glad you found it informative ☺️
Niall
Superb tutorial
Thanks Steve, glad you found it enjoyable/informative.
Niall
Thanks Excellent Video.
Great video sir
Thanks for the feedback Manish, glad you found the video valuable.
Niall
I have revit 2019/2020 and under the imperial library- detail items, there is no annotation folder or "detail_items_coursing line for plan/ sections". I was wondering if you can either post those files or tell me where to look? They are definitely helpful and thanks for making a great tutorial.
Hi William,
You can download all international Revit 2020 Content / Family packs from the following Autodesk Link:
knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/downloads/caas/downloads/content/autodesk-revit-2020-content.html
The one you are looking for is the United Kingdom package.
Hope this helps and thanks a million for the positive feedback.
Niall
what if we have inclined walls with different slope degrees, how can we let the pattern meet correctly
Hi! Thanks for the video! Unfortunately, I don't have access to the detail_brick_coursing family in my revit.. Is there anyway to download it for use?
uh, i cant find the plan detail for the course detail line in plan in the libraries, can you help me with that?
Hi Shania, thanks for reaching out.
Do you haev the UK Metric Library installed for REvit by any chance? It can be foudn in the detail items folder in there.
Niall
Did I miss something or?, but there are mortar joints 10 mm, so in 20 block wall length you lost one half block?, am I right, hov to involve mortar joints, its not accurate....no doubt awesome video!!!
Hi Tomislav,
Thanks for the comment. So, if you were to rewatch you would see that I mention to include the mortar joint in the overall block length. So a standard block would be 440, so at 450mm it is inclusive of the mortar joint. The one place I will admit an inaccuracy (which I only noticed afterwards) is that the end of the wall also includes that 10mm allowance where in reality there would be no mortar joint, so the wall should be pulled back 10mm.
Hope this clarifies. 🙂
Niall.
@@8020BIM I embarrassed myself after I realized that I am rushing to comment, ofcourse you did, you did all right!, since I am trying to make a wall family for Australian standard block 190x390x190 running, firs I made plane with 195, but it should be 190 mm spacing. I need to solve vertical course line which makes me trouble for now. Said alot aye?, thanks for good video again!
@@tbijondagmail No need to be embarrassed at all Tomislav - as the block / brick incrememts are different all around the worlds you are definitely not the first person to ask about setting out :)
All the best
Niall
@@8020BIM If you don't mind, I would like to understand some general aspects of revit, let's say I created architectural template (by transferring families, etc.). I designed new house. Save it as a project. Then I want to go to do some structural elements. Question: do I need to have then structural template and link my architectural design in it?. And second question is: once I create family, is that family for architecture and structure template, or I have to make family separately for architecture template and family for structural template?. I hope my English is understandable. 😀
@@tbijondagmail Hi Tomislav - apologies I only noticed your question now.
Correct workflow is for Structural and Architectural models to be independent, but aas with all of these things there is a level of nuance and practicality to keep in mind.
In short, for domestic it may not be worth having independent files for each discipline, but it is dependent on many criteria whether you choose to work that way or not.
Finally, with regards to families - any family from Arch / Struct can be present in each others template provided they parameters and visual presentation styles are suitable. It may not be suited to have Universal beams in you Architectural template for example, but perhaps on a certain scale of work it might make sense to have Timber Joists as part of your Arch template.
Hope this gives you some insights to tinker with.
Niall
Hi ...here i could not understand why u take half of the brick size ??
Half Block / brick size is a standard interval as masonry workers can easily half a block, rather than cut at quarters or something similar.
Hope this helps
Niall
Hi ..how r u ..can u plz tell me
what is the benefit of making this wall with the help of referreence plane.?? Plz tell me the advantage
@@8020BIM Dose the half block size rule applied only for the horizontal measurement’s or there are also cases for the vertical measurement’s (block height)? Thanks
@@Gedrosia-Makran Hi there. You should be working to wall heights that match full block intervals as blocks generally are not split length ways on a construction site. Also, make sure not to forget your soap-bar or cavity closer blocks at the head of the wall when workign out how high it should be.
All the best,
Niall
@@8020BIM Many Thanks for your feedback & info.