Drew became my favorite player this year. I could watch him throw Buzzzs all day. Ideal form in my opinion, especially for average height and proportion.
After watching this video I went out to a field and absolutely smashed my personal distance record. I went from 350 feet to 425!!! Unreal... Thank you sooo much!
After playing ball golf for several years before disc golf and being a bit of a nerd with it, I think what you guys are doing with disc golf coaching is tremendous. Ball golf has way more funding, tech, and professionals invested into its training & coaching, and it's awesome to see a comparable group developing in the disc golf scene. Thanks for the great content, and I can't wait to watch you guys continue to grow and develop the coaching and research game in disc golf!
You just saved me years of frustration and injury. Getting my elbow up in the box changes everything. It finally clicked with this video. Thanks for your content!
Best throwing mechanics analysis and form breakdown ive seen yet. Blows those 30 second “look how he’s lined up in a straight line” videos out of the water.
Finally a channel that truly understands the throw in disc golf. Hopefully more disc golf influencers and pros will take the time to truly understand the throw mechanics and not just use "keywords" that everyone is used to hearing.
I'm glad you guys have the same philosophy as I do, even before I started playing disc golf a couple years ago I knew that you would have to make fairly large compensations to pull the disc on a perfectly straight line due to the fact that the shoulder is a "ball in socket" joint. The out, back to in, to out, in my opinion is done due to the fact that the shoulders and hips are on two slightly different planes (angles relative to the ground)
I have a good feeling Drew is going to have a awesome 2022 season, not that this year was bad or anything....I just feel the passion for the game whenever he speaks and when he shows up for work! Thank you a ton for the instructional videos they have definitely helped me a lot this year, and the ones coming! Thanks✌️
would like to see you guys compare Drew to someone much smaller, like Emerson Kieth, who even though he is much smaller, can still generate a ton of power.
Great video, can't wait for the rest of the series. I think organizing these pro form reviews along with various drills in a chronological playlist is a fantastic idea.
I had elbow surgery awhile ago and stopped playing for awhile. I recently bought a new iPad to start videoing myself to get my backhand game up. I really like what you use to slow it down and really see a visual.
This was the video that finally made me realise the whole 90 degree thing. It was liberating to go out and be able to throw far without much effort! I can now throw my glide:ey putters as far as my midranges. Thanks!
I’ve played pretty much every sport you can name growing up and when I discovered disc golf, I truly underestimated how difficult it is to not only throw a disc 450/500 feet but control the angle and direction of the disc. It’s honestly one of the most complex motions.
Another great vid guys! You mentioned Drew being loose in his throws. How much stretching/warm up did he do prior to recording these shots? Could be a good idea for a future video/collab with Disc Golf Strong? Also your last point at the very end about getting the mechanics but not over intellecualizing is pure gold!
Love your videos. I think the danger is going less than 90, which many AMs do. 120 wouldn't be bad IMO and is actually where Drew releases from... good stuff as always
The last bit about integrating the mechanics with your body/feel is SO important. My first two years I was all about the mechanics, but nothing felt right. For my 3rd year I dropped all thinking about mechanics and went to feel, and things started to click.
And also, at this point Drew seems to be in the post release follow through which is where the arm extends passed the ninety (6:06 ) and pulls the body around to dissipate remaining energy from the momentum generated by form.
I just had a realization, my distance (40,50,60+) putting form is also based on the same movement. 90 in 90 out but very little rotation because at those distance you don’t necessarily need that extra power from the body. Instead power is generated from the shift in stance toward the basket and the release of the arm in a similar fashion to the release of a driver (limited but powerful hip engagement)
As with ball golf, you don't 'swing' the club. You rotate your hips and core around your center creating a swinging motion. Obviously there's a little more to it. But as Billy D. said in Happy Gilmore. "It's all in the hips" Another great video!
For a BHRH thrower who is learning this footwork (the walk up), the most difficult aspect is that my whole life I've been throwing/building motor patterns throwing with the opposite hips (ie baseball throws, shot put, football throws, golf swing). Now we have to essentially learn the footwork of left handed batters/throwers, but throw backwards with our right hand LOL Tips are appreciated!
I have a really bad problem of dropping my elbow, I feel like I focus on not doing it and then I go back and watch the footage and am always doing it. It looks like I am bending my upper half backwards in the middle of my throw to try to make room for the disc. Im very new to disc golf so it shouldnt be a habit but apparently it is and I just can't figure out how to break it! Ill get there eventually, love these videos I am a very technical thinking person which I definitely think is part of my problem but its great to see such detail in a pro's form.
Have you noticed anything about the direction of the run up vs the line the disc initially travels on? It looks like with Drew and others pros that the disc is pulled about 15 degrees right (for RHBH) of the direction their run up is going. For generating more torque from the hips/shoulders it makes sense, but for aiming purposes it seems more difficult.
Suddenly, one week ago while a lone training on the course, it all clicked together for few throws (I can't repeat it now :(...) and it was the best feeling. It felt effortless and each throw was on the perfect line without thinking about it...what the hell!? I needed to go from distance driver on a 112m hyzer hole to a 5 speed mid to have the same result for a layup... I hope it'll come back soon...
I remember after I broke 400 for a bit. I went to change one thing and couldn’t break 300. It felt awful but didn’t take too long to come back. Just part of changing form up. Gonna get worse before it gets better.
Keeping the humerus (upper arm) 90* to spine is very important for trebuchet effect. so if you bend over for a hyzer the disc won't come through flat, but the humerus will still be 90* to the spine. So important. Be efficient with your form so you don't have to do a correction in the middle of the pull through.
I think it's more crucial for beginners to learn the left arm drive. The earlier they learn it, the better, because its timing is so hard to get down, especially when you've already played for hundreds of hours and have developed bad habits. Better to learn it when you're new and essentially a sponge ready to soak up technique. It's a super important part of the backhand and has gone under the radar for a long time.
I don’t think it’s an advanced move by any means. I just think right arm comes first. Coaches could work on it in the opposite order and I wouldn’t think badly of them or anything. Just makes more sense to me from my tennis coaching background.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I'm with you. I'm a beginner (1 year) and have improved, but nothing has done more for my consistency and score than improving the positioning of my throwing arm/elbow. It's given me a base from which to work like I've never had before.
Thank you do much for this video. I've been trying to copy Drew Gibson 450ft hyzer form and I still can't understand how he is getting that much power that easily. I'll work on my right hand before trying to progress with left arm and hope for the best. I'll check out the box drill and see what's up. Maybe this will help me progress even further to throw much further than I am currently. Been frustrated lately :))
Hey thanks for the great content. I was just wondering if you have any tips for fixing off axis torque/disc wobble? Not sure if that's been covered before but if not you should definitely cover that. Thanks so much
Hey, Josh. Just a thought here, I'm no pro, but I was thinking about your comment of what was the proper release angle, where Drew's was maybe closer to 100 degrees vs. 90. Could these differences in angle come with different throws (hyper vs anhyzer or straight)? This looked like his hyzer shot. Maybe a little bigger angle for hyzer, or a little smaller angle for anhyzer? Again, I'm no expert, I just thought I would throw this possibility out there for discussion. Thanks for the great videos! Best instruction on the internet!
This is awesome! Great work guys. Have you considered doing any collabs with Seth Munsey from "Disc Golf Strong"? I attended the Disc Golf Strong Performance Academy a few months ago, and in one of his videos (Week 04 of the program), he talked about "The trouble with arm-speed" and how it really is all about hip rotational speed that is coming from the ground up when you push off from the back foot to the front foot. Would be super interesting to see some collabs with Seth Munsey, where you talk about form from a body movement perspective.
Great analysis and instruction. I’m enjoying looking at your videos and learning a few things. At one point in this one you said something about pulling through with the upper body and that that was wrong. I’m sure you’ve said it somewhere but could you state where you should be pulling from as you’re coming around? Is it hips first and then shoulders?
When I say pulling, I’m talking about a motion that drags the disc across your chest from one pectoral to the other and onward. The throw should actually come directly to the left pec (for a righty) and then directly out.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf appreciate your reply. How about the throat overall? Should it be generated from the hips first and then swinging the torso around as a focus or should you focus more on shoulder rotation? I’ve also heard it’s important to keep your arm mostly limp and try not to use your arm at all, do you agree with that?
Can you summarize the importance of keeping the disc over the left foot as you make the cross-step into the plant? Is it just to help with the idea of 'moving around the disc' instead of actively pushing it away from your body?
Never understood why people have said to pull in a straight line. Especially when there’s video of them throwing and not pulling in a straight line. It’s momentum management. Basically, whenever you exert yourself you usually do the opposite or move away from the direction you plan to go. To jump up you squat a little first. To swing a bat you rotate away a little first. To swing a golf club you swing and rotate in the opposite direction first. Then when you find your range you move forward only adding to the momentum.
it’s because schusterick pulled in a straight line at a time when he had the smoothest form anyone had ever seen amd was making lead cards left and right, and he could throw further than almost everyone with what looks like little effort.
@@ChristopherLoverich But he doesn’t. At least from the videos I’ve watched of him on his channel from 7 to 9 years ago he does. One of those videos does show him throwing a putter that looks like it might be pulled straight through but the clips of him driving are not. Yes, he has the smoothest, longest drive. If I had to guess I’d say his drives were pulled towards 10 o’clock and released at 1 o’clock. Also, he would walk up,/run up at an angle to the left to where his drives at 1 o’clock would be his desired line. It seems his power pocket was a little more forward than other players.
I think that one of my problems is the opposite of the remaining too much in line with my body when I release the disc, it seems to me that I extend too much my right arm out realeasing the disc.
The angle we had here was pretty decent. I’m sure Mikey will make any necessary tweaks next time. Depending on how much hyzer/anhyzer they threw the line would very a bit.
As a beginner, one thing I am always doubting on the right arm is the angle of my elbow as it transitions between the power pocket and extension. I typically feel my elbow pop, so I feel like I might be doing something wrong there. Should my elbow be pointing at the same plane the whole time? or do you roll your arm a bit? I think naturally my elbow starts to point down as it extends and I am wondering if that could be causing issues.
How do you aim with this “out, then in, then back out” technique? I understand how you aim with the “pull on a straight line” technique. How do u avoid spraying shots everywhere using this method?
Great question. The consistency comes from releasing at the same point every time; roughly that 10-11 o clock position. So it’s important to spend time getting that point locked down in reference to your body and then integrate that point into the path you walk up on.
most of drews power doesnt come directly from his arm, its generated at the hips like a baseball swing. I would have really appreciated an in depth breakdown of the lower body because thats why he throws far...
The only thing about his form I'm confused about is the release direction. Seems like every other time I've seen pros throw in slow mo the disc goes in a 10:00 or 11:00 direction releative to their plant foot, but with Drew at the end its release and going to the right. Is that normal or was that a grip lock? (the first top down view )
Let me clarify--his release point seems normal, but the direction the disc comes out from the 10:00 point seems to go farther to the right. Or maybe I haven't been grip locking or over rotating and actually been throwing correctly, but where I was aiming my body was too far to the right??
To double clairfy--what direction should the disc be moving relative to the release point? He's releasing at 10:00, but the disc pivots around his hand and heads off to the right of the release angle the "this little swirly thing at the end at 3:11 Did he grip lock it on the throw, or is that the correct disc travel direction?
I don't know if you've gotten the answer to this yet. Just talking about the style of form Drew uses, yes the disc is travelling along the intended path. OT really just misses a couple key things... 1) Look at 1:25 and where Drew is looking. That's the direction he's intending to throw the disc. Which is way off to the right. 2) The disc with this form is going to go where your belt buckle/chest is facing at the end of the throw. 3) The disc BOTH travels along a straight line and doesn't. With your example at 3:11. The disc is travelling in a V out in out relative to the chest, BUT the disc is also taking a straight path relative to where is starts from the reach back to where it exists. You are rotating around the disc while it's moving along a straight path. Draw a straight line along Drew's arm during the reach back, when it's released it's going to be flying in the same relative direction.
uhhhhh after he turns and gets full arm extension on draw back just before coiling out for the throw he "limp arms it" to me thats what it looks like where hes stiff at full extension then loosens his forearm muscles rips shot and in doing so the disc pulls closer to his chest.. mind blown there!
As a left hand player I’d appreciate if you’d consider saying ‘throwing arm’ or ‘dominant arm’ It gets very confusing to have to translate it throughout the entire video
@@samhowl1152 I've spoken with my pastor and he can cure your left-handedness and all he asks is 1/5th of your soul. He usually requires more, so you have been blessed!
@@samhowl1152 it’s so frustrating because the video lessons can literally do more damage than good sometimes. And left handed people are already at such a huge disadvantage on almost all courses. So I gotta get that form down perfect. #GrowtheSport but don’t grow your language to include more people? Dang
@@samhowl1152 I did what you said and watched ball golf videos, but now my discs don't even go a hundred feet. Should I be hitting them with something stronger lofted than a 5 iron?
I just look at the footage and say what I see. I'm aware of Spin and Throw but I don't study it. Just looking at footage. Analyzing footage. Delivering Analysis. I doubt we align up on everything.
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Drew became my favorite player this year. I could watch him throw Buzzzs all day. Ideal form in my opinion, especially for average height and proportion.
He doesn't throw buzzzs anymore, just a neutral midrange disc. /S
he doesn't have average proportions, he has huge ape index.
My favorite midrange thrower
You mean watching him throw orange midranges, that look suspiciously like buzzzs?
@@J0SH.0 he would if he could lol
After watching this video I went out to a field and absolutely smashed my personal distance record. I went from 350 feet to 425!!! Unreal... Thank you sooo much!
After playing ball golf for several years before disc golf and being a bit of a nerd with it, I think what you guys are doing with disc golf coaching is tremendous. Ball golf has way more funding, tech, and professionals invested into its training & coaching, and it's awesome to see a comparable group developing in the disc golf scene. Thanks for the great content, and I can't wait to watch you guys continue to grow and develop the coaching and research game in disc golf!
Drew demonstrates near perfection in his form. Thanks for this muchly.
You just saved me years of frustration and injury. Getting my elbow up in the box changes everything. It finally clicked with this video. Thanks for your content!
Best throwing mechanics analysis and form breakdown ive seen yet. Blows those 30 second “look how he’s lined up in a straight line” videos out of the water.
Finally a channel that truly understands the throw in disc golf. Hopefully more disc golf influencers and pros will take the time to truly understand the throw mechanics and not just use "keywords" that everyone is used to hearing.
Bro I love how you brake everything down about form🥰 Thank you from all of us I’m sure.🤘 Keep up the great work, it is much appreciated.
I'm glad you guys have the same philosophy as I do, even before I started playing disc golf a couple years ago I knew that you would have to make fairly large compensations to pull the disc on a perfectly straight line due to the fact that the shoulder is a "ball in socket" joint. The out, back to in, to out, in my opinion is done due to the fact that the shoulders and hips are on two slightly different planes (angles relative to the ground)
Can't wait till there's a whole playlist of pros on here! 😍
Yeah buddy!
I have a good feeling Drew is going to have a awesome 2022 season, not that this year was bad or anything....I just feel the passion for the game whenever he speaks and when he shows up for work! Thank you a ton for the instructional videos they have definitely helped me a lot this year, and the ones coming! Thanks✌️
I have a feeling you’re right. If he can carry that momentum through the off season he’s gonna be a force to be reckoned with.
would like to see you guys compare Drew to someone much smaller, like Emerson Kieth, who even though he is much smaller, can still generate a ton of power.
This is absolutely fantastic. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this! And you explain it so well. Please keep making videos
We shall!
Great video, can't wait for the rest of the series. I think organizing these pro form reviews along with various drills in a chronological playlist is a fantastic idea.
I had elbow surgery awhile ago and stopped playing for awhile. I recently bought a new iPad to start videoing myself to get my backhand game up. I really like what you use to slow it down and really see a visual.
This was the video that finally made me realise the whole 90 degree thing. It was liberating to go out and be able to throw far without much effort! I can now throw my glide:ey putters as far as my midranges. Thanks!
Yesss. Good work!
I’ve played pretty much every sport you can name growing up and when I discovered disc golf, I truly underestimated how difficult it is to not only throw a disc 450/500 feet but control the angle and direction of the disc. It’s honestly one of the most complex motions.
For real. Lol. And I used this shot because it’s his “standard” throw.
Another great video. I’m a beginner myself and this sort of video is perfect.
Another great vid guys! You mentioned Drew being loose in his throws. How much stretching/warm up did he do prior to recording these shots? Could be a good idea for a future video/collab with Disc Golf Strong? Also your last point at the very end about getting the mechanics but not over intellecualizing is pure gold!
He just threw some warmups while we set up and such.
came straight from Simons vlog to see the best form!
Welcome! Thanks for joining us.
Excellent work...setting new standards in disc golf coaching & instruction!!
5:47 - Drew is at a 120 degree angle based on the lines drawn, quite a bit more than 90. Grab a protractor if you want to verify me.
I know I said I was floundering with my right arm but this is above and beyond!
Just for you buddy
I knew we would get more! Great stuff everyone.
wow your content is so good. can't wait for more
Always a great video and instruction. You help me tremendously. Thanks
Super interesting. I absolutely love this format
Very good content. Made me understand the drills even better.
Really cool seeing some video of this, hope to see some other long drivers side by side like this
Such a great resource. Thanks for all what you do. I've learned a lot.
Love your videos. I think the danger is going less than 90, which many AMs do. 120 wouldn't be bad IMO and is actually where Drew releases from... good stuff as always
The last bit about integrating the mechanics with your body/feel is SO important. My first two years I was all about the mechanics, but nothing felt right. For my 3rd year I dropped all thinking about mechanics and went to feel, and things started to click.
So great!!
Thanks Josh and Mikey!
Nice work!
Greatness love the helpful hints
Awesome more drew form stuff plz
And also, at this point Drew seems to be in the post release follow through which is where the arm extends passed the ninety (6:06 ) and pulls the body around to dissipate remaining energy from the momentum generated by form.
I just had a realization, my distance (40,50,60+) putting form is also based on the same movement. 90 in 90 out but very little rotation because at those distance you don’t necessarily need that extra power from the body.
Instead power is generated from the shift in stance toward the basket and the release of the arm in a similar fashion to the release of a driver (limited but powerful hip engagement)
As with ball golf, you don't 'swing' the club. You rotate your hips and core around your center creating a swinging motion. Obviously there's a little more to it. But as Billy D. said in Happy Gilmore. "It's all in the hips" Another great video!
For a BHRH thrower who is learning this footwork (the walk up), the most difficult aspect is that my whole life I've been throwing/building motor patterns throwing with the opposite hips (ie baseball throws, shot put, football throws, golf swing). Now we have to essentially learn the footwork of left handed batters/throwers, but throw backwards with our right hand LOL
Tips are appreciated!
I know. It’s brutal
great video man
I have a really bad problem of dropping my elbow, I feel like I focus on not doing it and then I go back and watch the footage and am always doing it. It looks like I am bending my upper half backwards in the middle of my throw to try to make room for the disc. Im very new to disc golf so it shouldnt be a habit but apparently it is and I just can't figure out how to break it! Ill get there eventually, love these videos I am a very technical thinking person which I definitely think is part of my problem but its great to see such detail in a pro's form.
Very helpful.
Have you noticed anything about the direction of the run up vs the line the disc initially travels on? It looks like with Drew and others pros that the disc is pulled about 15 degrees right (for RHBH) of the direction their run up is going. For generating more torque from the hips/shoulders it makes sense, but for aiming purposes it seems more difficult.
I have to spend some serious time looking at all that. I don’t have any opinions at current
Suddenly, one week ago while a lone training on the course, it all clicked together for few throws (I can't repeat it now :(...) and it was the best feeling. It felt effortless and each throw was on the perfect line without thinking about it...what the hell!? I needed to go from distance driver on a 112m hyzer hole to a 5 speed mid to have the same result for a layup... I hope it'll come back soon...
I remember after I broke 400 for a bit. I went to change one thing and couldn’t break 300. It felt awful but didn’t take too long to come back. Just part of changing form up. Gonna get worse before it gets better.
Keeping the humerus (upper arm) 90* to spine is very important for trebuchet effect. so if you bend over for a hyzer the disc won't come through flat, but the humerus will still be 90* to the spine. So important. Be efficient with your form so you don't have to do a correction in the middle of the pull through.
I think it's more crucial for beginners to learn the left arm drive. The earlier they learn it, the better, because its timing is so hard to get down, especially when you've already played for hundreds of hours and have developed bad habits. Better to learn it when you're new and essentially a sponge ready to soak up technique. It's a super important part of the backhand and has gone under the radar for a long time.
I don’t think it’s an advanced move by any means. I just think right arm comes first. Coaches could work on it in the opposite order and I wouldn’t think badly of them or anything. Just makes more sense to me from my tennis coaching background.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I'm with you. I'm a beginner (1 year) and have improved, but nothing has done more for my consistency and score than improving the positioning of my throwing arm/elbow. It's given me a base from which to work like I've never had before.
Thank you do much for this video. I've been trying to copy Drew Gibson 450ft hyzer form and I still can't understand how he is getting that much power that easily. I'll work on my right hand before trying to progress with left arm and hope for the best. I'll check out the box drill and see what's up. Maybe this will help me progress even further to throw much further than I am currently. Been frustrated lately :))
Hey thanks for the great content. I was just wondering if you have any tips for fixing off axis torque/disc wobble? Not sure if that's been covered before but if not you should definitely cover that. Thanks so much
I kinda think the disc wobble is from lack of spin. So could be a swing issue or a grip issue in most cases.
Thanks. Some helpful insights and video. Suggestion: It's his 'throwing arm'. (Yes, I'm lefty.)
Hey, Josh. Just a thought here, I'm no pro, but I was thinking about your comment of what was the proper release angle, where Drew's was maybe closer to 100 degrees vs. 90. Could these differences in angle come with different throws (hyper vs anhyzer or straight)? This looked like his hyzer shot. Maybe a little bigger angle for hyzer, or a little smaller angle for anhyzer? Again, I'm no expert, I just thought I would throw this possibility out there for discussion.
Thanks for the great videos! Best instruction on the internet!
That’s a great thing to look into and I think I shall! I’ll have to compare the angles based on type of shot. I really don’t know at the moment.
Great video. Thanks.
This is awesome! Great work guys. Have you considered doing any collabs with Seth Munsey from "Disc Golf Strong"? I attended the Disc Golf Strong Performance Academy a few months ago, and in one of his videos (Week 04 of the program), he talked about "The trouble with arm-speed" and how it really is all about hip rotational speed that is coming from the ground up when you push off from the back foot to the front foot. Would be super interesting to see some collabs with Seth Munsey, where you talk about form from a body movement perspective.
I actually really enjoy talks from this perspective. I’ve got a PT buddy that I’ve had hours of discussions with on biomechanics. So fun.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Cool! Would be good content for your channel, I think.
Great analysis and instruction. I’m enjoying looking at your videos and learning a few things. At one point in this one you said something about pulling through with the upper body and that that was wrong. I’m sure you’ve said it somewhere but could you state where you should be pulling from as you’re coming around? Is it hips first and then shoulders?
When I say pulling, I’m talking about a motion that drags the disc across your chest from one pectoral to the other and onward.
The throw should actually come directly to the left pec (for a righty) and then directly out.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf appreciate your reply. How about the throat overall? Should it be generated from the hips first and then swinging the torso around as a focus or should you focus more on shoulder rotation? I’ve also heard it’s important to keep your arm mostly limp and try not to use your arm at all, do you agree with that?
Can you summarize the importance of keeping the disc over the left foot as you make the cross-step into the plant? Is it just to help with the idea of 'moving around the disc' instead of actively pushing it away from your body?
Correct. Moving around the disc helps coil the shoulders.
Never understood why people have said to pull in a straight line. Especially when there’s video of them throwing and not pulling in a straight line. It’s momentum management. Basically, whenever you exert yourself you usually do the opposite or move away from the direction you plan to go. To jump up you squat a little first. To swing a bat you rotate away a little first. To swing a golf club you swing and rotate in the opposite direction first. Then when you find your range you move forward only adding to the momentum.
"Momentum management." I love that.
it’s because schusterick pulled in a straight line at a time when he had the smoothest form anyone had ever seen amd was making lead cards left and right, and he could throw further than almost everyone with what looks like little effort.
@@ChristopherLoverich But he doesn’t. At least from the videos I’ve watched of him on his channel from 7 to 9 years ago he does. One of those videos does show him throwing a putter that looks like it might be pulled straight through but the clips of him driving are not. Yes, he has the smoothest, longest drive. If I had to guess I’d say his drives were pulled towards 10 o’clock and released at 1 o’clock. Also, he would walk up,/run up at an angle to the left to where his drives at 1 o’clock would be his desired line. It seems his power pocket was a little more forward than other players.
Don't get too nerdy with it. Great advice.
I think that one of my problems is the opposite of the remaining too much in line with my body when I release the disc, it seems to me that I extend too much my right arm out realeasing the disc.
love it
Can you guys make a drill for bracing?🤩
Working on it. That’s a tough one.
Would getting a camera angle from behind at the disc's elevation for helping with the analysis?
The angle we had here was pretty decent. I’m sure Mikey will make any necessary tweaks next time. Depending on how much hyzer/anhyzer they threw the line would very a bit.
If you don’t mind me asking, what app or tool do you use for your videos when you’re breaking it down a second at a time and can mark on the video?
It's called Coaches Eye
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I appreciate the quick feedback. Thank you for the time and work you put into helping disc golfers out! Great information applied!
As a beginner, one thing I am always doubting on the right arm is the angle of my elbow as it transitions between the power pocket and extension. I typically feel my elbow pop, so I feel like I might be doing something wrong there.
Should my elbow be pointing at the same plane the whole time? or do you roll your arm a bit? I think naturally my elbow starts to point down as it extends and I am wondering if that could be causing issues.
Your elbow should be pointing out from your right pectoral (opposite if lefty) from backswing until the disc leaves your hand.
How do you aim with this “out, then in, then back out” technique? I understand how you aim with the “pull on a straight line” technique. How do u avoid spraying shots everywhere using this method?
Great question. The consistency comes from releasing at the same point every time; roughly that 10-11 o clock position. So it’s important to spend time getting that point locked down in reference to your body and then integrate that point into the path you walk up on.
most of drews power doesnt come directly from his arm, its generated at the hips like a baseball swing. I would have really appreciated an in depth breakdown of the lower body because thats why he throws far...
Lol
The only thing about his form I'm confused about is the release direction. Seems like every other time I've seen pros throw in slow mo the disc goes in a 10:00 or 11:00 direction releative to their plant foot, but with Drew at the end its release and going to the right. Is that normal or was that a grip lock? (the first top down view )
Let me clarify--his release point seems normal, but the direction the disc comes out from the 10:00 point seems to go farther to the right. Or maybe I haven't been grip locking or over rotating and actually been throwing correctly, but where I was aiming my body was too far to the right??
To double clairfy--what direction should the disc be moving relative to the release point? He's releasing at 10:00, but the disc pivots around his hand and heads off to the right of the release angle the "this little swirly thing at the end at 3:11 Did he grip lock it on the throw, or is that the correct disc travel direction?
I don't know if you've gotten the answer to this yet.
Just talking about the style of form Drew uses, yes the disc is travelling along the intended path.
OT really just misses a couple key things...
1) Look at 1:25 and where Drew is looking. That's the direction he's intending to throw the disc. Which is way off to the right.
2) The disc with this form is going to go where your belt buckle/chest is facing at the end of the throw.
3) The disc BOTH travels along a straight line and doesn't. With your example at 3:11. The disc is travelling in a V out in out relative to the chest, BUT the disc is also taking a straight path relative to where is starts from the reach back to where it exists.
You are rotating around the disc while it's moving along a straight path.
Draw a straight line along Drew's arm during the reach back, when it's released it's going to be flying in the same relative direction.
What music is that closing song? It’s a bop.
"Forever" by Sunny Fruit
uhhhhh after he turns and gets full arm extension on draw back just before coiling out for the throw he "limp arms it" to me thats what it looks like where hes stiff at full extension then loosens his forearm muscles rips shot and in doing so the disc pulls closer to his chest.. mind blown there!
I get what the box drill is for now.
It looks like Drew lets the disc hit him in the chest as he is pulling through.
Gotta get that swing in!
As a left hand player I’d appreciate if you’d consider saying ‘throwing arm’ or ‘dominant arm’ It gets very confusing to have to translate it throughout the entire video
My apologies
@@samhowl1152 Please do not disparage left-handed people. They have feelings and metatarsals, too.
@@samhowl1152 I've spoken with my pastor and he can cure your left-handedness and all he asks is 1/5th of your soul. He usually requires more, so you have been blessed!
@@samhowl1152 it’s so frustrating because the video lessons can literally do more damage than good sometimes. And left handed people are already at such a huge disadvantage on almost all courses. So I gotta get that form down perfect. #GrowtheSport but don’t grow your language to include more people? Dang
@@samhowl1152 I did what you said and watched ball golf videos, but now my discs don't even go a hundred feet. Should I be hitting them with something stronger lofted than a 5 iron?
Foot fault?
Nah. I placed it wrong
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please pet the dog
That is totally a foot fault son
Let him know
You look so much more intense indoors. Just sayin
Haha. Like angry?
Na just like "I'm about to teach you and you gonna friggen like it!!"
I like your camera work and your way to explain. But everything you say is exactly Spin and throw. It would be nice to say that at one point
I just look at the footage and say what I see. I'm aware of Spin and Throw but I don't study it. Just looking at footage. Analyzing footage. Delivering Analysis. I doubt we align up on everything.
love it