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  • @rythis155
    @rythis155 2 місяці тому +63

    I like 6v6. We have enough 5v5 mobas and we don’t need more. We need unique and new takes on the genre for it to remain alive and interesting.

    • @raiva1963
      @raiva1963 2 місяці тому +1

      7v7 next?

    • @padawanjon6441
      @padawanjon6441 Місяць тому

      @@raiva196350/50 when?

    • @bencrystalofficial
      @bencrystalofficial Місяць тому +4

      6v6 gives it that Overwatch feel where even if a teammate is dead or far away in another lane there's enough teammates to capitalize on ults like Singularity, Kelvin ult, etc to make hype team moments pretty often 🥳

  • @padawanjon6441
    @padawanjon6441 Місяць тому +11

    As someone who has never played a moba, I like that there are 6 people rather than 5 because I don’t feel like as big of a burden to my teammates while I learn.

  • @merlin5822
    @merlin5822 2 місяці тому +36

    i honestly like the new/different number of players and lanes. I've never played Dota actively but LoL for years. Leauge is at or at the very least very close (in high elo/pro play) to be solved for the "general way to play macro". Not that macro play is solved or the game itself. But we have played literally over a decade of 5v5 on 3 lanes with jgl in more than enough games even outside of dota and lol.
    What im trying to say is, what i personally like about deadlock, especially if viewed as a combination of third person shooter and moba, a Pro player wont necessarily be pro in deadlock due to its moba nature and vice versa. But even a leauge challenger and e.g. valroant immortal player will have to learn deadlock with new macro because its actually new. Sure the core principles are the same. But like you said having a 6v6 on 4 lanes changes a lot.

  • @polishlinks
    @polishlinks 2 місяці тому +20

    It's worth noting that DOTA has equally dispersed lane impact, with the supports frequently roaming mid for runes and the Gates allowing cross map rotations (kinda like teleports in Deadlock, but immediately available). Based on this, I expect that you're right and roaming supports will become a staple in Deadlock as they are in DOTA.

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому +3

      Thank you for the clarification

    • @alliu6562
      @alliu6562 2 місяці тому +3

      Kelvin immediately comes to mind with “roaming support”.

    • @EGO.BReAKERR
      @EGO.BReAKERR 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, all roaming supps need two things: not a big need for cash, and a good number of CC spells. Kelvin definitely fits the bull ​@@alliu6562

    • @Mmoll1990
      @Mmoll1990 2 місяці тому +1

      Good thinking. With the fact that soul soaking in lane continues throughout the game, all you need to do as Kelvin is help push and then gank a different lane and soak the souls there with no souls lost to either other laner. I play a ton of support Kelvin, so I'm going to try rotating more earlier in the game.

  • @ducasse8473
    @ducasse8473 2 місяці тому +79

    Oh God the 5v5 or 6v6 things Is triggering the overwatch politician in me. Plz don't start this.

    • @theorangel8331
      @theorangel8331 2 місяці тому +6

      exactly what I felt holy shit

    • @sc065
      @sc065 2 місяці тому +13

      OW opinions aren't needed

    • @faaltov
      @faaltov 2 місяці тому +4

      No one cares

    • @panpan1985
      @panpan1985 2 місяці тому +10

      overwatch player, opinion disregarded

    • @mito._
      @mito._ 2 місяці тому +1

      It's hard being a 6vSexual in today's climate.

  • @devilzlettuce7714
    @devilzlettuce7714 2 місяці тому +4

    I've been watching your videos for a while now and they've helped me improve my gameplay so much. Deadlock is the first MOBA I've ever played so I never know where my priorities should be but this video explained it to me perfectly! Great video as always

  • @jaxler8387
    @jaxler8387 2 місяці тому +11

    Subscribed for the yapping, Don't stop!

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому +3

      Thank you for the kind words I appreciate it

  • @Mmoll1990
    @Mmoll1990 2 місяці тому +1

    In high mmr League, Jungle and Support are the most OP roles in the game because they have the most map impact and macro.

  • @Thiquid
    @Thiquid 2 місяці тому +1

    u do a great job simplifying complex topics, keep it up

  • @charleshaines9715
    @charleshaines9715 2 місяці тому +67

    Good video, but I don't like the term 1v5 or 1v6. The only 1v5 going on in Deadlock is a Shiv or Viscous who's enemies don't have antiheal. Impact or "carrying" is not the same as 1vX ing

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому +12

      Sure that's fine, what I meant more so is that you have to fight more people as the individual compared to 5v5 so it's more encouraged to work together

    • @eebbaa5560
      @eebbaa5560 2 місяці тому +7

      disingenuous and pedantic. whether or not you like the term is completely irrelevant. there are objective metrics within the game that describe in granular detail how much impact any one player has on the game. conversely, it is also apparent when players are contributing nothing to, or even hindering, a team’s progress.

    • @kault
      @kault 2 місяці тому

      @@eebbaa5560🤓👆

    • @charleshaines9715
      @charleshaines9715 2 місяці тому +2

      @eebbaa5560 ramble some more

    • @eebbaa5560
      @eebbaa5560 2 місяці тому

      @@charleshaines9715 don't make it my problem that you can't read jit

  • @Shinyshoesz
    @Shinyshoesz Місяць тому

    I love that you have to play more for the team. I'm currently grinding out of the depths of ranked due to the new changes (I hadn't played much rank by the time they implemented the new changes) -- and the major issue I see with low-elo is that everyone is out for themselves.
    I had an entire game where both sides just farmed infinitely for an hour instead of doing objectives lmao. An Infernus ended with literally 40k more souls than me and still lost.
    It's absolutely mind melting how many players think they're going to carry and I actually love that it punishes them for tunnel vision in that way.

  • @lidiosp
    @lidiosp 2 місяці тому

    This is already one of the best channels about Deadlock, keep it up 👍

  • @CucamongaGuy
    @CucamongaGuy 2 місяці тому +1

    poshypop's axiom of solo carrying

  • @kamikeserpentail3778
    @kamikeserpentail3778 2 місяці тому +1

    When I play, if I'm in a duo lane and we've pushed all the way to their guardian but can't properly put pressure on, I'll rotate toward the lane that needs more help usually the solo lane and dump my cooldowns on the enemy hero.
    Sometimes my presence just makes the enemies in that lane have to play more cautiously, which helps my ally there even when I leave. Sometimes I secure a kill or two, even better.
    After we kill the guardian in our lane, I'll commit even more to helping out the other lanes, as long as our guardian isn't being strongly threatened.
    At that point, more than sometimes we're killing another guardian.
    It's harder in solo lane.
    I find it a little easier to get ahead, but with no one to cover if I rotate out I can only go pick up a medium camp or so before I have to head back.
    Maybe rush in and blow my cooldowns on the duo lane, but I have to leave immediately.
    I like that it's 6v6 instead of 5v5.
    For one, there being 4 lanes instead of 3 allows more room to split push and I find that more engaging strategically.
    The map design does still prevent that from being too strong, because the outer lanes are adjacent to each other through teleporters, and because rails can allow you to quickly reposition within your own territory.
    In other words, there's never really a point where you have to 1v6, except maybe to lucky steal mid boss when you're losing terribly.
    But I come from Heroes of the Storm, where the whole team is on the same level no matter what, so playing for the team is just something I'm used to doing.
    You carry the team not by stealing all the XP and being ahead of everyone, but by opening opportunities for them to also get ahead.
    Against McGinnis I always try to focus her turrets, when she's out of vision, I want her to waste time spooling up.
    The turrets offer a good amount of pushing power, and last hit to giver her souls.
    Not only do I deny her last hits, but I also get souls by killing turrets which allows me to get ahead and forces her to spool up on minions instead of me.
    A lot of McGinnis early on are going to focus gun, because that lets her be a threat.
    So as long as you take out the turrets while she isn't shooting you, they aren't going to have the durability boosts of a McGinnis that gets early health items.
    And one that does get early health items isn't going to be as big a threat with her gun, so she's even easier to deal with (so I prioritize healing when I play as her)
    Withering Whip is also incredibly strong against McGinnis, and I think more people should learn that.
    She doesn't have amazing spirit damage unless she really builds into turrets, and is willing to take bullets to keep her turrets alive.
    So her threat is usually coming from her powerful minigun, which while stupidly strong once she gets Fleetfoot and can ignore the movement penalty of spooling up, still becomes a significantly smaller threat when you can drop like a 45% fire rate slow on her right as she gets up to firing speed.
    I seriously consider it more vital than Monster Rounds against her.

    • @saputello13
      @saputello13 2 місяці тому

      I come from HoTS as well and so the concept of not having one really fed carry is nothing new. It requires more teamwork.

  • @ThatOneGuy-js5yq
    @ThatOneGuy-js5yq 2 місяці тому +2

    Hey! Can you make a video explaining the basic laws of MOBA games. I kinda suck at all MOBAs but I would really like to play deadlock and maybe even LOL and there arent many MOBA guides out there...

  • @WaluigiNumbaWan
    @WaluigiNumbaWan 2 місяці тому +1

    that was a crazy stacked lobby lmao

  • @dumpsta-divrr365
    @dumpsta-divrr365 2 місяці тому +1

    Deadlock is definitely going to be a tough solo queue game. I expect I'll be mostly queuing duos at least when im grinding ranked, especially since Paradox and Ivy are my favorites so far

  • @meow_nyx
    @meow_nyx 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey, I was curious if you made the art of Ivy? It's super cute!

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому +1

      Nope it wasnt me I credit the artist In my twitch bio

  • @user-ri7fo6tp5e
    @user-ri7fo6tp5e 2 місяці тому +1

    The lane effect only applies to certain heroes. Some champs like mirage for example can go solo and effect all players. Additionally, a good kevin or ivy or lash or viscous... can rotate very far with zipline movement tech 23 secs is a pro rotation ACROSS MAP speed with using zipline momentum without even being lash with 0 ms items.
    Also the solo lanes have the most impact in the game because you're not splitting as much far and you will most likely have more souls at the 8 min mark combined with movement you can rotate and effect any lane.
    Lastly, you did not mention zip line boost as that can be used for quick rotations from solo lanes to any lane of their choosing in under 15 seconds.
    Solo seems to have the highest carry potential in Deadlock due to the importance on movement and ability for solo players to get farmed quicker and thus have stronger rotations
    I think the game is a little new for this type of league of ledges comparison / analysis as there are some crazy movement viscous that can legit be in every lane sub 10mins if they wanted.

  • @AndersHall-si8if
    @AndersHall-si8if 2 місяці тому

    Dear Poshy Pop, you got me into dark and darker I saw you playing cleric and saving your teammates and I wanted to do that but now that you don’t play anymore it just doesn’t feel the same I wish you would come back to D&D

  • @N4SixString
    @N4SixString 2 місяці тому

    I've never seen someone draw so many googly eyes. 👀 Well done good sir.

  • @keepcalm3547
    @keepcalm3547 2 місяці тому

    A duo lane Vindicta can impact all lane soon she gets 3k soul. Her snipe has no fall off. Anyone below 50% will show to her as a redlined box even outside of her usual rendering range.easy snipe from top of mid to side lane.

  • @Luv_sicc
    @Luv_sicc 2 місяці тому

    This is the Romolla of Deadlock

  • @nates9105
    @nates9105 2 місяці тому

    I just look for picks and if pressure on me isnt constant I look for opportunities to support. I dont believe focusing on waves as strategy is key. Damage on enemies and acting on opportunities is more critical

  • @Sjon_E
    @Sjon_E 2 місяці тому

    This is a uniquley mcginnis feature. You really don't have that much pushing or ganking potential pre-ult as any other character. You say that they misplayed but aside from just focusing on their own lane's tower, there's nothing they could have done to stop you guys

  • @lewisbirkett4428
    @lewisbirkett4428 2 місяці тому

    I never know when to roam vs continue to pressure heroes/towers and deny your creeps. Never considered roaming as mcginnis prefer to set up in lane and push it down

  • @TheSwiftDJ105
    @TheSwiftDJ105 2 місяці тому

    i remember trying out mcginnis for the first few times and thinking to myself _why the hell am i in a solo lane?_ I remember playing with my duo in the duo lane and i could help him out way more than i could help myself if i was solo.

  • @stotans7394
    @stotans7394 2 місяці тому +2

    What's your opinion on Ivy's stance on the meta? Have you found yourself playing her less to play other stronger characters?

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому +3

      I think she works really well in a team setting unfortunately for solo queue I don't think she's that good because you're solo queuing but she is viable and the support sense and if you build siphon it's not that bad either for gun

    • @yllarius
      @yllarius 2 місяці тому +1

      I actually love ivy for solo, at least at low MMR.
      PUGs generally don't understand map control, pushing, ECT.
      Playing Ivy you can almost completely nullify this by yourself. I play gun ivy, and can constantly roam, gank, and split push. Your 2 and ult are both amazing tools. You can use your ult to pull your teammates out of the shit engagements they decide to take.
      I've found ivy's usually not seen as a threat as well. But especially if you get vampiric burst, you can often straight up win 1v1s.
      No, she's not going to hard carry, but I find it's easier to find mechanically decent but game knowledge lacking PUGs rather than the reverse.

    • @stotans7394
      @stotans7394 2 місяці тому

      @@poshypopDEADLOCK thank you

  • @Piedrahumo4447
    @Piedrahumo4447 Місяць тому

    i only play viscous and i never did this to much but i may start doing it more

  • @MyLights
    @MyLights 2 місяці тому

    What do you think about the future of towers in deadlock? In my opinion I’d love to see it more like League of Legends in the sense that I’ll see it a lot where in my duo lane my duo in that lane will back up to the hill so he is no in between the walker and guardian and the enemy will push up to the guardian and still shoot us and the guardian doesn’t shoot them bc it doesn’t have the system to protect us so instead we now either have to get back into the fight low hp and possibly die or run to base and lose hp on the guardian or just lose it all together

  • @reborn6303
    @reborn6303 2 місяці тому

    Just watched bro drawing balls for 11minutes ❤

  • @Ezheldaar
    @Ezheldaar 2 місяці тому

    You said that most players don't know how to react to roaming. Could you explain how to react when you're on the receiving hand of a roam ?

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому

      shove lane/catch person rotating back from roam/roam to another lane

  • @raiva1963
    @raiva1963 2 місяці тому

    All I see is McG being a balanced hero

  • @xSh0ckWaVe
    @xSh0ckWaVe 2 місяці тому

    Poshy with the knowledge

  • @TheFRBublitz
    @TheFRBublitz 2 місяці тому

    I get you bro, I love to 1v5 too

  • @nates9105
    @nates9105 2 місяці тому

    So you dont like 6v6 as it focuses on team instead of personal performance in a 5v5

  • @Appletank8
    @Appletank8 2 місяці тому

    i keep forgetting where the teleporters are.

  • @wraithakiin
    @wraithakiin 2 місяці тому

    now i'm only oracle 5 but i think that viscous could have insane power roaming the map, purely because of puddle punch. it gives him the ability to go from one lane to another in just a few seconds with a punch dash. i think this with his insane burst damage makes him near impossible to react to because even if your duo laner calls missing, what are you gonna do when 5 seconds later a goo man is punch splatter comboing you for 400 damage?

  • @soap6264
    @soap6264 Місяць тому

    I like 6v6 ause team player but i hate 6v6 because some people refuse to play with the team

  • @axesofebil
    @axesofebil 2 місяці тому

    Game should be 9v9 the teue TF2 GOAT format.

  • @asunamiku4
    @asunamiku4 2 місяці тому

    Keep yapping subscribed

  • @terri4845
    @terri4845 2 місяці тому

    than what is amber hand's best plan?

  • @Mr_SamuelAdam
    @Mr_SamuelAdam 2 місяці тому

    Please no 5v5. (overwatch player)
    I do like the 6v6 personally.

  • @DeadFishFactory
    @DeadFishFactory 2 місяці тому

    Should you bother trying to roam if the enemy is a Wraith or Pocket or something that can escape, and you're a hero without much early-game kill potential like Ivy?

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому

      If the enemy you're trying to roam on is one of those characters then no

  • @theycallmetiger7340
    @theycallmetiger7340 2 місяці тому

    You would benefit HEAVILY from having a script. I'm not trying to be rude, just constructive criticism. Still loved the video and left a like :>

  • @wuatduhf
    @wuatduhf 2 місяці тому

    I know it’s a staple in other MOBAs, but is the concept of a single player being able to carry something that Deadlock’s devs want to disincentivize?
    On one side you highlight the 6v6 nature, but the game also lacks the traditional hero archetypes like ‘jungle, support, adc’. Despite a handful of heroes having support-coded design, they can still stand on their own. A lot of the time in your streams you have to herd cats because you know you can’t ‘win solo’.

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому +3

      I think the deadlock devs want more teamwork and want to disincentive solo carry yes

  • @diegorjalvarado
    @diegorjalvarado 2 місяці тому

    @poshypop if im getting shit on in lane, should i just roam?

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому +2

      There's a lot of things you can do when you're behind in Lane it's not just one dimensional you should room but it is an option yes

    • @jam227
      @jam227 2 місяці тому

      if one of the other enemy laners is weak or out of position yeah, alternatively tiaking the time to do the easy neutral camps near you so you can pick up an item or two is also good

  • @youdungoofed1
    @youdungoofed1 2 місяці тому

    1v6? In lower ranks it feels like 1v11

  • @pkkiller_apathy4568
    @pkkiller_apathy4568 2 місяці тому

    Are you going to start playing Haze yet?

  • @justfeelingirie
    @justfeelingirie 2 місяці тому

    good stuff

  • @chasecloudz6026
    @chasecloudz6026 2 місяці тому

    You’re probably so happy to have switched lanes to deadlock content considering the shit storm that was the past week of Dark and Darker patches.

  • @mihaillapin1755
    @mihaillapin1755 2 місяці тому +1

    You are a great player. But Jesus - McGinnis is so broken. 4 minutes no tower, wall through which you cannot go and the highest dps in the game

    • @kamikeserpentail3778
      @kamikeserpentail3778 2 місяці тому

      I don't think she's a problem, except that Fleetfoot removes the weakness of her gun needing to spool up while she's slowed.
      The spool up time is the only thing keeping her gun fair.
      Although, Withering Whip is incredibly strong against her, since a lot of them will build into gun first.
      Turrets will be fragile because they don't build vitality, she has little spirit damage to speak of, and whip will drop her fire rate down massively.
      I consider it practically a must have when solo laning against her.

    • @mihaillapin1755
      @mihaillapin1755 2 місяці тому

      @@kamikeserpentail3778so you don’t think she is a problem right? So you think it is perfectly balanced the fact that she can disable the path in front of you for 5 seconds, he literally just killed the fattest character in the game with just one disable and destroyed his tower because she literally has the highest dps in the game so no one can contest her.

    • @iswhatheis
      @iswhatheis 2 місяці тому

      Some of those advantages can and do work against her. If she builds wall, you can clear out the creeps real quick and make adjustments as needed. My only grievance is that she's way too quick, I haven't played as her so I don't know what her stamina is but it feels like she can get away way too easily for what sort of class she is.

  • @tommalaga248
    @tommalaga248 2 місяці тому

    3:30 „in league its easy to 1v5“ whell i dont feel addressed at all😂 ill stick to being farmed😢

  • @proxy4233
    @proxy4233 2 місяці тому

    support and jungle, then mid

  • @jeankristein3238
    @jeankristein3238 2 місяці тому +1

    If team have ivy and refuse to grab urn carrier
    I ignore urn altogether

  • @Nick-ym4gh
    @Nick-ym4gh 2 місяці тому

    why didn´t they turn the map into a cylinder so it loops infinitely

  • @youtubeeee6682
    @youtubeeee6682 2 місяці тому

    0:20 not true, all lanes influence each other equally because of the twin gates

  • @Bone_Zone
    @Bone_Zone 2 місяці тому

    W comms

  • @alliu6562
    @alliu6562 2 місяці тому

    2:58 incorrect, in league of legends the most you can do is 1v9
    (Before people are mad, this is a joke 😭)

  • @Christian_Bagger
    @Christian_Bagger 2 місяці тому

    Can you update your lady Geist build?

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому

      I haven't been playing Lady geist that much but I can try to I've been doing more of a gun build

    • @Dogrust
      @Dogrust 2 місяці тому

      @@poshypopDEADLOCK Yeah that would be sick, been using your build but messing around with adding things like headhunter etc, I'm curious to see what your build will have in this patch

    • @Christian_Bagger
      @Christian_Bagger 2 місяці тому

      @@poshypopDEADLOCK Your bomba build fitted my play style just perfectly! I’m an fps player, so building my own stuff is not where I am at atm.

  • @Restorf
    @Restorf 2 місяці тому

    I've never played any mobas before Deadlock so it's great hearing some of these strategies to improve performance.

  • @guilhermeredtfox
    @guilhermeredtfox 2 місяці тому

    Hii! Awesome video! I'm Guilherme, a thumbnail designer, I'd love to chat, do you have any social media where we can connect? Thanks!

    • @poshypopDEADLOCK
      @poshypopDEADLOCK  2 місяці тому

      Hey there currently not looking for a thumbnail designer I appreciate you reaching out though