Honestly it's very disappointing how they chose to go about this. For years I've always wanted a Cardfight Simulator like Master Duel and Shadowverse. I don't see why they could not offer the same and have it available on all platforms with cross play. Also the PC version of Dear Days plays horribly in my opinion. I would justify the high price point of entry if it was a Deluxe Edition with goodies like cards and products like other games do.
@@HyouVizer its cheesy as fuck and I haven't beaten it yet, but it was fairly priced and actually got me interested in the game. I already play D and am looking to buy into V, but goddamn. This makes me like the game less somehow, lol
simple, the devs are lazy and greedy, its not just the price, they did a terrible job at translation too, like seriously?? they ask for 70$ and cant even translate!?!? not to mention terrible dlc pricing, in every way it looks like a scummy quick cash grab game then dead in 6months
I've said it before but if this is indeed FuRyu's fault for the high price tag for the base game and DLC then I want Bushiroad to reconsider their relationship with FuRyu. If DD doesn't sell well enough then I think one of two things might happen: 1. Bushi misinterprets it as people outside of Japan don't care about a proper Vanguard game and will never release another one outside of Japan again. 2. They realize the poor sales is FuRyu's fault and not because fans don't care about the game. If number 2 is the outcome then Bushiroad needs to reconsider their relationship with FuRyu after all these years if they wish to expand Vanguard into the West with video games and grow the community further. This means dropping FuRyu as the developers for Vanguard games and getting a new dev team for future projects.
i mean wasn’t that the case with previous titles? bushi thinking international playerbase never care for vg and so we never got any english release of EX, if something bad happen with this game, bushi for sure gonna take number 1 option.
@@Gummeyy but most of us didn’t get the game over here like vanguard zero,me and my friends got EX cause we wanted a main line vanguard game, dear days was our opportunity to play against each other but bushiroad thinking we are interested but we are upset with the pricing, hell the dlc made me really upset
It's harder to convince someone they've been fooled than it is to actually fool them. Ain't no way Bushi is going to admit they fucked up or made a bad call on another company fucking up their IP.
I've always wanted to get into Vanguard digitally due to the fact I know nobody near me that plays it physically. I started by just randomly watching the show on UA-cam up to Link Joker, thought the rules were kinda cool, loved the card art and the vibe of the game itself. Figured a video game would come out eventually....oh....only in Japan you say. Okay they'll get ported....(Nope). Oh one heard about this one coming out earlier this year got hype, then kinda forgot about it until I randomly looked on the eShop and saw this game that is the exact same price as God Of War: Raganarok and more than Pokemon. I simply will never play this game.
if you want another way to look at it, you could buy a box of Vanguard (or 2) or buy the game. Paid it and haven't regretted no matter what i say when the ai gets 2 critial triggers and kills me when im at 3 damage
I was hoping you’d make a video on this! Always love your videos. I got Dear Days from the Brazilian eShop, so I’d consider getting some DLC sets, but if it costs too much I might not get it out of principle. Depends on how much I care about the new cards. It just sucks that they took a great way to attract new players and flushed it down the toilet. Hopefully it gets a discount at some point.
@@TrueAce2146 I got the game a few days before the DLC price was revealed. Since I had Brazilian currency left over, I had to use the rest of it before I could switch my account back to America. I lucked out and found a few games that added up to the exact amount I needed to spend. I’d consider going through all that trouble again, but I’m a little worried I wouldn’t be able to get rid of the rest of the currency, and my account would be locked to Brazil. I guess I could buy the pass and use some leftover currency for other DLC like sleeves or fighters, and that would be a lot of money saved. And I could plan out the currency in advance to make sure I can spend every cent. I’m heavily considering it, but I might wait. I don’t know.
@@Dragon_Ryder oh you was able to switch your account I just made s new account from that country so everything is separated already and it doesn't seem to be any problem rn
@@TrueAce2146 I just wanted the purchase to be associated with my main account, in case I need to redownload it from the eShop or transfer to a new Switch or something. I already have a Japanese account from when I bought EX, so I don’t really want to keep track of another regional account. I might use the Brazilian eShop to get the DLC and sleeve set 1, but it’s kinda a tough decision. Not because I can’t afford it, I just don’t know if I want the DLC and I don’t know if I want to support overpriced content. Though I am excited for the game, and buying DLC from Brazil would mean I got everything I wanted for around $60. It sure is tempting.
Just a reminder that because of how Diamond Economy works in the game, you can build all the Competitive Yu-Gi-Oh deck you want in Master Duel, FOR FREE. And THE GAME ITSELF is *FREE.*
This game is honestly going to be a huge flop. I love vanguard and I was looking forward to buying it but I’m going to skip on this because of the pricing.
Cardfight Area or Untap. it's free, and you can find opponents from across the world. in case of Untap, you can even play cards the same day Bushi reveals them on live stream. a friend of mine already fought against Luquier in Standard
The first Rush Duel game actually had 3 or 4 FREE card updates in Japan (english didn't get any), adding in about 4-5 sets I believe, which included the new Fusion mechanic which wasn't in the base game. The final update also gave every character in the game new decks, which means a lot of content was added, and you could fight AI with their fully updated decks (nevermind the amount of new summoning animations and voice lines added). The DLC was pretty much just buying complete decks, so you could skip it. I'm genuinely surprised how generous Konami was and that makes this whole Vanguard thing even more shocking. Nevermind the fact that EX released up to date on the week. I'm just upset because the way this is going, we'll likely NOT get Set 8 too which really sucks, because that set looks so much fun. I would have been perfectly fine with this DLC being $30 while we pay another $30 for Set 8, 9 and Messiah
The pricing is ridiculous, if they want to expand this to gain new people get into the game. This action is clearly not for it, I say its an act to milk out the player base who will buy it without a second thought. I am interested for getting it to bring support of the game, but the pricing is too much for this type of game. The demo does not feel 40+ game for me. I'll pass for this one, I do not want to support this form of actions.
As an argentinean, I was looking forward to the game. Getting the physical cards ain't easy and for most of us building a full deck gets even harder without reprints due to low stock, taxes and shipping fees. Was really hoping for the game to be an alternative to all of that. But they did us dirty with those prices 😅.
I've been waiting for this video since I saw the dlc prices. Honestly, they could have done this a 100 times better. I believe one of the fears they have is that they lose tcg players to Dear Days. In my opinion they could have taken advantage of this like they did with Zero, just making tournaments with Dear Days since it'll have a ranked system and they said it'd be updated (at least until chronojet set). The pricing for the game was expected on 60 dollars since EX was around that price in JP and 70 dollars was a surprise. Then the dlc prices were crazy because of how expensive they were having to pay 15 dollars for set separately and 70 for all of them together along with sleeves. But the release dates... they are expecting people to wait until February to play set 6 which already has about 5 months in JP and almost 1 month in EN. By the time it comes out EN would be playing set 8 and JP would be playing set 9. It was crazy. A lot of people wanted to try this game as maybe a simulator before buying the cards after trying them in DD since (at least me) it was expected to be a month difference between tcg and DD like it was said in the video. Also we don't get to know if set 8 and above would be updated to the game after. Honestly, I believe they took one of the worst decisions ever with the marketing strategy with the game. But hopefully they'll take a look at all the emails and maybe do something about it.
right now looking at other options, and it seems like getting it off play asia is better than getting it locally if you are mainly playing it in single player, there doesn't seem to be many cons to getting it via play asia from what I can scour, checking if it affects your ability to play online or local multiplayer.
>machine translated >$70 base game >$70 for the card pass >Not even physical release >The card sets date release being from February to June of 2023 >Releasing a day before Pokemon Yeah, they want this to die. This whole thing is unjustifiable. Anyone defending this is out of their fanboy minds.
You do have to wonder why on earth they would make some of the choices they did. Like, seriously? Releasing the game the same day as a new pokemon game and MORE expensive? It just doesn't make sense and I feel like that's so basic in terms of common sense/marketing strategy that it makes me wonder if they actually have competent people making those decisions or if they have someone filling a position that just doesn't know what they're doing. It is frustrating to all the people who enjoy the game and want to see it grow so they can have access to more product/events in their local area and this was such a huge opportunity for the game and they dropped the ball. I think the game is good as far as a TCG game goes, especially for those of us who can't play IRL because not enough players/support. So to have access to this is huge. But like everyone else has already mentioned, it could introduced more people to the game and grown the community...but they slapped a $70 price tag on it that no average kid can afford and no sensible person is going to pay if they're just curious or don't know a thing about CFV. If I could I'd post a gif of Napoleon Dynamite with the text that says "Ugh!!....friggin' IDIOTS!!"
yeah, at 70 bucks this is absurd. I would love to play this game but i will never be able to justify a 70 dollar game on the Switch. The console runs more poorly than my old ps4 pro or xbox one and they're pricing it at next gen console prices??? Sorry but i'll boycott this game just to help tank their sales. Its just greedy and insulting to my intelligence.
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 I assume Furyu sets the price and Bushiroad is working with them because they've already got an engine for the game developed. I also don't know if they expected such a ridiculous price for release in the US.
Compared to the quality of Master Duel which is FREE, this huge starting price for DD is simply extreme. I’d gladly pay up to $50~ for this but $70 is a whole fucking lot.
I mean you can't really compare the two games despite both being TCG, since one is buy once and you'll get everything and the other is a essentially Gacha game.
@@shmarfle47 a gacha system and a gacha game arent the same Xenoblade 2 had a Gacha system(kinda for that whole blade summon thing), but is not a Gacha game Gacha games is just you pay more to get what you want
@@skylernguyen8600 So, DD do have a gacha system and most of the eay to get cards is just to pull packs or craft them, literally like the other free-to-play card games on the market. Dear Days already charging for future cards as DLC while other free-to-play only make it as a free update.
@@tweetugwe1270 The packs are bought by in-game point currency you get from playing the game. There is no spending money to get cards from packs on top of this steep price
I thought that dear days being 70 in the usa was bad the steam pricing for Australia is nearly 89 dollars like wtaf are they thinking I paid less for a copy of the new pokemon game like the hell
I used Matt's Brazil trick you mentioned. My wife and I both play so the 70 dollar price tag would have been WAY too much as we both have our own switch. She's new to the franchise (she just entered BCS with me!) and this is a HUGE learning opportunity. And that's my main concern: helping new players learn or even experienced players expand. The standard price in one of the biggest markets is just a block to that.
yea i just decided to not get it ill actually just stop playing the game and ive been playing for more than 6 years a damn shame ive always wanted this
I hadn't even considered that the dlc would take HALF A YEAR AFTER PHYSICAL SETS to release. You can't even playtest for worlds with this game. Jesus CHRIST, this is a disaster...
With this being the first English game, and seeing how anything local has been canceled here it is pretty upsetting seeing how much it cost. Due to this it is the only way I can ever really try to get into D. Hopefully it will be a great game when it comes out and I can try to get some people into to get some locals going again
for a while now it has felt like Bushi is on the verge of doing to Vanguard what they did to Buddyfight. They're making things harder to get into and eventually we might see things just collapse entirely. Secondary market for the physical TCG and FuRyu charging so much isn't helping anything either. We also have more DLC revealed for DearDays but it hasn't been added to the $70 DLC pack, so it's likely going to be a separate transaction on its own (or put into another $70 bundle with other future DLC as well). I've loved Vanguard since 2012, but it feels like the companies and even players themselves are trying to choke the game out til it dies. Not sure it'll survive another reboot if they ever try that again. I say this knowing that they had plans for Overdress to last into like 2025 or something, but that's just what they are hoping for, and if it crashes, it crashes.
As a potential new player who has been trying to get into Vanguard for around a year due to friends not being interested (and you can only battle with yourself and the same 2 decks for so long before you lose your mind lol), this pricing is going to be a huge kill factor as like most people probably ive just preordered Scarlet and Violet so I am really hoping that with the Steam winter sale this game will drop to around 40 or even 50 which would be great for the community as a whole to get the newer players into the game. Besides the point, been really enjoying your videos and can't wait to see the dear days content!!
because of the pricing, it makes my decision to buy drop from 100% to like 40%-50%. I want to buy the game because of online but if the price especially the dlc is too expensive for me just to play online, I would rather don't buy it for online and switch back to cfa. And also there are ways to play the game just for the story without buying which will tempt most people. Just like you said, they are really losing opportunity to open up the franchise
I was hella hyped for this game. Yeah, I can't afford buying boxes for each set, plus, I don't have friends that want to play with me anyway, so the game was amazing news when I first heard it. The announcement was made exactly at the time I took interest in it. But man, the prices tho.
Exactly this game was supposed to finally be a way for me to play this game at all since I have no one to play it with and all the other games of it are in Japanese. But sadly the price does not much the product at all
If the game was a free gacha like Master Duel you'd easily have to spend WAY more than $70 to build a deck, and you'd be spending forever. Even accounting for paid DLC in the future for Dear Days the spend value is going to be way less.
As someone who has 0 local presence, Dear Days was going to finally be my chance at a regulated way to play Vanguard with other people and maybe even convince a buddy or two to try the game out for themselves. That's just not realistic anymore at $70, and as someone who has been on the sidelines for so long it is a massive bummer.
Never considered that FuRyu could have been the one to set the price, not Bushiroad. Still, I sent my email to Bushiroad and they said they forwarded it to the appropriate department. Which kinda seems like a blow-off but I'll take what I can get. More than likely I'll still by the game. Perhaps after Cyber Monday here the US. BUT. I'm going to transfer my account to my friends own consoles so they can download the game. If I'm not mistaken once the game is downloaded onto the system anyone can play it. It's kinda reassuring that FuRyu could have been the one that set the price and not Bushiroad. Means that Bushiroad wouldn't have done this deliberately which would be shooting themselves in the foot. Used to think that they maybe did it on purpose so they would have an excuse not to release video games internationally.
lol im here because i wanna buy it i was just wondering why does it cost so much, and what kind of game was i getting for $70 is it all the cards plus adding new sets. yes no other game is 70 they are 60 at most POKEMON IS 60 BAYONETTA IS 60. what am i getting for 70 and 70 dlc wth. im only thinking about it because i miss vanguard and i quit when they reworked the whole card game (i played dark witch's and nightmare dolls, and harri palemoon was my main I still have my decks)
So basically the reason why no one else gets to play a VG video-game is because of Furyu. At first I thought "that's kinda the japanese business model, sadly, they're a bit xenophobic". But then with the switch and older Digital releases, that literally cost them nothing (save for translation and overseas taxes) and Furyu does this? Yeah, WHY is bushiroad so reliant on them? I mean, if anything, it seems like Furyu just wants to keep the game IN Japan, for whatever reason. So like, why doesn't bushiroad just release it digitally? Without their involvement? Because from what I can see of the horrible typos and mishandled prices, Furyu isn't helping them much.
I think it’s just crazy how pricey the DLC is to have a card game video game to have that pricey dlc?? The base game is already asking a lot for it being 69.99 (nice) the other games on the market are slightly cheaper than it and a bigger sale like Pokémon. While I can understand dlc to add in more cards in the future I don’t get why it has to cost as much as the base game to add these cards and when those cards will be available most likely no one will be playing the game anymore with how they have done. With Vanguard EX they just put that game out there and never gave it card updates so the game was already outdated by the time it came out with its last in game set being Raging Tactics. Idk how the base game would go it does seem like it would have a decent amount of packs in it but it will also be outdated unless you buy the DLC and you won’t even have the DLC available until later. This is a game that won’t be giving anymore work after it’s out, it’s not like a service like MTG Arena, Pokémon Online, Yugioh Master Duel which are all free games with transactions but will free to play. This is a 69.99 game in my area with DLC that cost the same for a game that I won’t be playing in the future and might pick up here and there got a few matches. I do mostly play Furyuu I don’t have it confirmed but I have heard that they don’t like to bring games outside of Japan and it could be them trying to force Bushiroad to make the game more expensive than other games in the market. I will still hold blame for Bushiroad for thinking it’s a good idea to release a game right before Pokémon is going to come out and asking for more money than the Pokémon game. They should have just made an online service game imo. Pokémon has been having an online service for the longest time, Magic has had a few in the past but recently has stuck with it and Yugioh finally just made their online service game and all of these aren’t asking people to spend lots of money just to start playing, they are all free to play and you choose if you want to spend more money on it or not. The big 3 have online services and if Vanguard doesn’t want to die off they should get with the times. We should have just gotten an online service that is cross-platform so we can just play some vanguard, we don’t need a story based card game cause most people aren’t going to be paying attention to that and just going through the story mode so they can make their deck. It’s like they are trying to kill this game so they don’t have to have any globe releases. As much as I enjoy the system that Furyuu has made they should consider partnering with someone else to develop games in the future
I'm disabled, and I kept wanting a Vanguard video game for years so I could actually play vanguard. I was so hype when i just randomly finding out that a vanguard video game was actually going to be english...but, now I'm dissapointed.
Bruh why is Cardfight Vanguard acting like it's popular enough to have that price in the United States. Not even Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh are aiming for that price. Usually when you attempting to become more popular in a region, you undersell yourself to become more attractive options for players to try out. Making $69.99 is a death move for Cardfight Vanguard since only die hards will get it.
I honestly thought are they not learn from Master Duel? Master Duel is arguably the most played TCG Video Game on the world just because how generous the Konami is, they gave us bunch of new cards for free, new sleeve, and many new stuff for free. But then bushiroad sell their game at 70 bucks with no dlc and MTL translation? I really am not gonna buy this game for 70$, i rather pain my ass to brazil region so i can buy the game for 20$
Idk if anyone has mentioned this yet and I'm halfway through the video so disregard if it was covered. Perhaps the game is so expensive because they know how small of a market there is for vanguard but still need to recover the cost of making the game. If they want to make a decent game, it needs a higher budget so essentially the theory is that they are relying on the dedicated fans to support the cost of the game and bringing in new players would be a nice-to-have vs selling the game cheaper and risking not many new people buying the game to make up the difference. I truly can't understand why vanguard is struggling so much in the TCG arena because it is MUCH more beginner friendly than yugioh and also has that appeal to younger players. Not to mention, it's fun and the cards look awesome, especially for anime fans. Now thinking of it, the thing that pokemon and yugioh have are anime that pulled people in...Overdress was pretty decent for what it was...Willdress seems to be even better. The pro crossdressing and boy on boy relationship stuff was a little blatant but that's whatever and another topic. If they could invest in working with a studio to make a hit anime based around the card game and marketed aggressively in the States and EU with product and events, they could contend with pokemon and yugioh.
it seems that the DLC problem has only gotten worse. i recently checked on steam cause i was interested in it and wanted to see how much i'd have to save up to get the game and DLC's. then i saw that combined, it costs £223, £170 of it being just the DLC's. i could just get 4 or 5 standard priced games for that price. i don't really understand why bushi would put such a high barrier to entry on a game with a fanbase that's already very small compared to its competitors edit: turns out the reason it was showing as £170 to me is because it was showing the additional card pass, aswell as all the things seperately, so it would have been me paying for the same things twice
This game is a cash grab lmaooo no ride animations it’s practically ex with a texture pack talk about lazy production and 70 dollar DLC u gotta be trippppian I ain’t buying this crap they ruined zero and know they ruining dear days love it
I am not a cardfighter player, but I've been interested in playing for a while. I was looking forward to this as a chance to jump into this game. The price though has really put me off, I doubt i will buy it on release now.
I am gonna pass on dear days to either the price go's way down or I find a copy to Pirate. I am sorry but this game is way to God dam expensive at 70 dollars. There is no reason why a tcg should cost this much, when both Master duel and and pokemon tcg live are both free to play friendly.
I'm 100% sure the reason is just because they also decided to put it on Nintendo where everything is overpriced because nintendo players are starving for games on that console.
so furyu also did the crazy prices for batosupi connected battlers... like kris said, best thing to do is sending bushinroad emails, politely btw don't go tell them to "fuck themselfs" you know, and hope for the best, the dream would be a change in price, but my guts say that it might have been some contractual obligation with furyu to have this absolute asinine prices, which would be the worst type of scenario... yeah, we can only send the emails and hope for the best, I already sent mine because I remembered matt's post about it, and I recommend y'all doing it too
Honestly, I was waiting ever since I started playing Vanguard all those years ago for a game like this. Where I live I only have like 1 or 2 People to play with and I really wished for something like ygopro for cardfight. The price does seem a bit high (I live in germany so it's probably gonna be a little high but still kind of standard game pice) but honestly I am willing to play for it. I also pre ordered Pokémon and I honestly have to say it really doesn't bother me at all. I can play pokémon with my son and then when he goes to sleep I can play a bit of Vanguard, or vice versa. But of course that is just my opinion. I will buy it on steam because my friends buy it for steam too. The pricing for the dlc is pretty insane though, I did not expect that. I will most likely only buy the base game and just play for fun.
The scariest thing about this game for me is that they may just stop updating it. With EX it released with the cards it had and that was it, so it quickly became outdated. With Master duel we were told beforehand that the game would keep up (relatively speaking) with the tcg - however we have had no such confirmation with DearDays…
@@dred_dreamr Yes that is my concern as well. If you think about it Set 7 comes 31st of May 2023, until then we will probably have 1 or 2 more sets, and what if they never update it? Then we have to wait so long to play a set that will be old already by that time. Thinking about it I would probably only purchase Set 6 and 7. I do not like lyrical anyway, and I do not need to play the chrono deck. And if you think about it, you get the set in germany for 16,99 Euros, a full display often costs around 60-70 Euros irl, so you basicly get all the cards for 16,99 (since you can buy the packs ingame for the VP that you farm) so from that perspective it actually does not seem too bad. But still, paying for 2 games for something that in my opinion should be in the game from the start (or at least set 6) is just so...frustrating you know? But knowing me, I will most likely still buy it because I am a whale and I love Vanguard
Here in the netherlands its €58.99 on switch so it should be the same price in germany (still hope the steam version is cheaper) but i will be a day 1 buy anyway
I tried to let my friend try vanguard because they like urara and want to try her deck.I honesty will buy him the game if he want but a 70$ game+dlc is to much for a new player
What sucks about this is that for someone like me that lives in the US and has nobody to play the physical game with, this is the only way I can play the game that I love so it just feels so wrong that these pricings are this expensive and I just have to either pay it or just not play the game.
there's are F2P alternatives for Vanguard, mostly Cardfight Area or Untap. I've been using Untap for years and honestly it's great! their discord server is a chill place, too
The way i see it its still ALOT cheaper than getting trying to get a physical copy of the cards and not to mention getting a hold of said physical cards aint that easy. If people still think its too expensive then just wait for it to go on sale or you could always just go to table top sim.
THANK YOU! You addressed all my problems with these damn prices that the company has just 💩 out. I want this game to succeed and grow with all of standard and this is such a wall and pretty greedy of them to just charge so much for cards you won't get to play off the bat.
I loved the regional pricing, in Brazil Dear Days has almost the same price as those overdress start decks. Here those "3 or 4 dollars" cost around R$110 while DD is R$127. I hope so much that steam will have regional pricing too cuz Nintendo left Brazil in 2015 so they consoles are so expensive as Vanguard physical stuff. A Switch in Brazil is around R$2300 wich is entire 2 mounths of work if you earn minimum wage
Nintendo actually came back to Brazil in 2020. Still no regional pricing though, which sucks. DD feels so cheap in comparison to most of the games I want on Switch...
Yep, they killed it. I legit see no reason for me to continue hoping that I’ll ever see a day where I can actively play the TCG of vanguard. After the disappointment of online not being a thing, I stopped playing and came back for overdress. Was hoping dear days would be an actual replacement so I could play it since I have no one to play with irl. Since it’s so overpriced and I would never support this because it’s scummy. I don’t know how long I’ll stay with Vanguard at this point. Zero is the only way I can actively play the game and that’s aggravating. I’ll buy it from Brazil if anything I guess
So years ago when Vanguard first came out. I was interested in the TCG, I even got Dragonic Overload/Toshiki Kai's starter deck. At that point in time my friends and I were already playing Yu-Gi-Oh, I was interested in trying out the new card game but none of my other friends were committed to trying it out. Now years later, a few months ago (around May/June) some of my online friends mentioned they were interested in getting back into Vanguard, and I was down and willing to pick up, learn, and actually play the game for once. Convenient enough at that point in time Dear Days was revealed and announced. Which got me excited since as a Yu-Gi-Oh player who has played the TCG competitively, I played YGOPRO, I enjoyed Legacy of the Duelist, and when Master Duel came out I was happy and excited for them to release a F2P game that has cards across all of the series itself, of course there is micro-transactions but it is also cross-platform and cross-play. I played Vanguard with said friends that I mention on Tabletop, we went with Premium and V-Premium format. I also played and tried out Vanguard Zero and I had fun with both, but I wanted a Vanguard game that is similar to the actual TCG equivalent to Yu-Gi-Oh and Legacy of the Duelist or Master Duel along with mechanics being automated for convenience and being able to play with friends or other players online. I was still excited for Dear Days even after learning it was going to be in Standard format, which I don't mind learning, picking up, and playing even though it wont be as vast or as dynamic as Premium format, I was just excited to play the actual TCG virtually. then I played the demo of Dear Days, which wasn't bad though there were things I was surprised with them not having or including, like being able to change Key Bindings for convenience and compared to the Yu-Gi-Oh games that I mentioned or even Vanguard Zero, there was no unique presentation to give that impact when you bring out that Grade 3 Vanguard, which was a bit underwhelming but I was still satisfied knowing at least I can play Vanguard genuinely with official rule set and mechanics, and it would be in a format that is easy to digest for new players to the game as a whole or the format. But then a couple of days ago, seeing how the price hasn't been revealed on Steam yet for Dear Days. I decided to open the Nintendo website, find Dear Days, and then I saw that price. I am now less likely to get the game since I am also getting Pokemon, I might try to buy the game still whether is waiting to see if they eventually drop the price/it goes on sale, or getting the game in a different country/region just so it is easier to obtain without it costing soo much, not to mention I wasn't aware that the DLC for the games will cost just as much as the game itself. It really lowers the encouragement for me to get the game and try it out, along with my friends who play Vanguard, they aren't willing to spend 70 dollars, plus they are competing with other online TCG games. From ones you can buy and play like Legacy of the Duelist, or F2P like Master Duel, or Legends of Runeterra, Hearthstone, etc. If the issue is the Dev's/FuRyu and it isn't Bushiroad that placed the game in such a high price, I do hope things change not only so that I can get the game and play it, but if they want to compete with the other digital TCGs and have more people interested and get invested in to Vanguard entirely, They need make changes for the better for the community and the potential for the franchise as a whole.
DLC prices and how long the DLC released are seal of the deal to me that I don't want to buy it unless, the price on Steam is a lot cheaper bc there're a lot of games I also want to buy that aren't as expensive as DD. Also, I tried the Demo and it doesn't feel worth the prices that is more expensive than some games like Pokemon S&V.
The pricing is nuts but I am getting it anyways just like I got vanguard ex. I agree they are missing out on new players with the pricing. I have been telling all my friends at my local shop about the game but once they see the cost moat of them probably won't buy it
It’s sucks for me the most the closest shop that I can buy cases and play with people is a hour long drive. On a stroad a terrible fusion of a highway and road. This games online would have saved me long trips and gas.
I honestly was hoping for a free game like masterduel and, and I would 100% drop money on card packs and play the shit out of this game cuz I love vgcf and it's aesthetics, but this is insanity
I swear I try to keep liking this game. Nobody to play the real game with here, small town, they don't advertise the game for shit so it's not as big. finally a way for me to play with real rules while being digital, and it ends up more expensive than other games I'd get more out of. I'm stuck on switch right now, and I can guarantee if this game has online play, I'd have to buy the online on top of my internet, which I will not do. I only found the game through vgzero, and they got greedier and made it shittier. I swear it's like they want me to stop playing
Aside from the pricing, it's also extremely unfortunate that it feels like the game just wasn't made for PC at all. From playing the demo, it feels like they literally made a switch game and afterwards decided "hey lets make it available on PC as well" porting the functionality very poorly. With games out there like Hearthstone and Master Duel, even Pokemon TCG live and online, which feel super fluid, built for PC, bushiroad had perfect templates on how to make a good looking and feeling online card game but just didn't. The game wasn't at all made to be played with on a mouse and its such a shame because, for one its the largest market outside of Japan, and also because of how much money these other comparable games make. If the gameplay was good, I would consider forking out the money, but with the clunky controls and jerky, uncontrollable camera views, its the biggest 'no' factor for me.
Despite Fuyu setting the prices, it is also 100% Bushiroad's fault as they were the ones that very likely approved it in the first place. There is no way they didn't see this price unless they were the dumbest company that approves stuff with their eyes closed (actually I can totally believe that). Just another fat Bushiroad L for the list.
Also considering how people in both English and JP have been clamoring at Bushi to address the problem with OTs for more than a year and Bushiroad hasn't done shit, I doubt all the support emails they'll get will actually do anything. At best they'll do what they do best and put their fingers in their ears and pretend they don't hear anything.
While I agree to an extent, bushi does have some fault here but Furyu is still the main one charging this, add that even if bushi did approve we dno when, and how far in devlopment they were. Even if Bushi lets say did know what were they gonna do about it, not like they can just stop development or switch devs if Furyu is insiting that it should be x price, especially if they already sent out games this price before. Also doing your part and trying sure ots havent changed but dosent mean you just stop and dont try at this point if theres anything we can do we can try, theyve responded before multiple times (Remeber the whole issues on crits set 3 with bruce, and the immediate restrictions?). Dont get me wrong I dont defend completely defend bushi but seeing the evidence sounds like Furyu has the biggest handle on this, and it sucks they had them develop it and are potentially just stuck with what they gave them.
I was waiting for the shadowverse mention because i recall getting it for 30 euros, and this is not to mention is a game with 3D models and scenarios, which is a lot of work. Also special mention to Rush Duel which got supported in the long run.
personally i can take the DLC price even though i fully accept there are a lot of people who can't but those release dates..... WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?!
I play the pokemon and ygo online tcg clients(PTCG Live and Master duel respectively). Both are very f2p friendly. A new account can have 1-3 decks easily built with the dust and initial dump of in-game currency. If you cant build anymore decks in the account you can always make a new account for free. I was very excited to play Dear Days but the price point is turning me off. Might pick it up when it goes on a massive sale. 70bucks+DLC just isnt worth it to me
I started seeing videos for DD and it got me interested to play Vanguard for the first time. But that price point in the US is just ridiculous. I’m trying out Zero f2p instead lol
So is the game supposed to be released on the Switch today or tomorrow? The eShop states it's on the 16th, while the Bushiroad site says the 17th. I'm confused
Probably later, because as DF said. The game is going to be released 24 hours from now as the release time is most likely following the JP schedule which is why countries like the US are getting it on the 16th since it'll be 17 after 5 or 4 more hours for JP. Just a hunch though, I don't know the exact time of these releases
At this point I cant even be surprised, we were all expecting too much from the same company that's outright refused to release their previous games to the west. And I wouldn't be surprised if furyu also pulled out from doing future releases after this stunt. I dont know what's wrong with this company, why are they so gung ho about japanese releases only? What the hell did today's bushiroad do to get them to finally agree to this? That we'll never know.
"Regional pricing" So just go to Greece, got it. Edit: Wow, the prices website ruined my joke. Damn. I'm surprised, I was under the impression you don't get a worse GDP or whatever the hell than Greece, but apparently not if it's average price. Well, time to get a ticket to Columbia, I guess.
The extremely high price point is definitely off putting. I can't see myself paying 70$ for a game that shouldn't be more than 40 AT MOST. I mean, Master Duel is wildly successful and it FREE!! Bushiroad may need to do some changes in the future if they game doesn't sell well (or at all) because no way will this game have a staggeringly high player base like Master Duel or even VG Zero with the price looking like this
I honestly don't care much about the price. What I don't like is that they're so slow in releasing sets. It should be at most 1 set behind from the TCG.
Honestly it's very disappointing how they chose to go about this. For years I've always wanted a Cardfight Simulator like Master Duel and Shadowverse. I don't see why they could not offer the same and have it available on all platforms with cross play. Also the PC version of Dear Days plays horribly in my opinion. I would justify the high price point of entry if it was a Deluxe Edition with goodies like cards and products like other games do.
yea they slowly killing there own game 😩
They can't just do what konomi does, good or bad ideas alike
shit story and characters aside, Shadowverse switch was so damn good for quality of content handled **chef's kiss**
@@HyouVizer its cheesy as fuck and I haven't beaten it yet, but it was fairly priced and actually got me interested in the game. I already play D and am looking to buy into V, but goddamn. This makes me like the game less somehow, lol
simple, the devs are lazy and greedy, its not just the price, they did a terrible job at translation too, like seriously?? they ask for 70$ and cant even translate!?!? not to mention terrible dlc pricing, in every way it looks like a scummy quick cash grab game then dead in 6months
I've said it before but if this is indeed FuRyu's fault for the high price tag for the base game and DLC then I want Bushiroad to reconsider their relationship with FuRyu. If DD doesn't sell well enough then I think one of two things might happen:
1. Bushi misinterprets it as people outside of Japan don't care about a proper Vanguard game and will never release another one outside of Japan again.
2. They realize the poor sales is FuRyu's fault and not because fans don't care about the game.
If number 2 is the outcome then Bushiroad needs to reconsider their relationship with FuRyu after all these years if they wish to expand Vanguard into the West with video games and grow the community further. This means dropping FuRyu as the developers for Vanguard games and getting a new dev team for future projects.
I hope not for number 1, I didn’t realize that battle spirit was high as well
i mean wasn’t that the case with previous titles? bushi thinking international playerbase never care for vg and so we never got any english release of EX, if something bad happen with this game, bushi for sure gonna take number 1 option.
@@Gummeyy but most of us didn’t get the game over here like vanguard zero,me and my friends got EX cause we wanted a main line vanguard game, dear days was our opportunity to play against each other but bushiroad thinking we are interested but we are upset with the pricing, hell the dlc made me really upset
nah the 1 is more realistic
It's harder to convince someone they've been fooled than it is to actually fool them. Ain't no way Bushi is going to admit they fucked up or made a bad call on another company fucking up their IP.
It's still bonkers to me that master duel is free to play and soo much f2p friendly
And that's Konami
They got the funding for the Silent Hill thing from that
I am happy this is not f2p 💩
I take a full priced game+paid dlc every time over a f2p with lootboxes and microtransactions
@@Jrpg-Gamer1 imagine pay a dlc in an 70$ games xd
U do know tht the first old yugioh games cost money .. and only the recent yugioh game was the the only f2p
@@DrakenguardShiroyuki none of the old Yu-Gi-Oh games was 70 dollars + 70 of DLC.
Bushiroad really looked at WoTC and MTG 30th anniversary pack and said "you want us to disappoint our player base? Challenge accepted"
i think cardfight vanguard dear should get all card sets from all series
Guys all I'm saying is master duel is free.99 so pass. This is just some scummy money grab
I've always wanted to get into Vanguard digitally due to the fact I know nobody near me that plays it physically. I started by just randomly watching the show on UA-cam up to Link Joker, thought the rules were kinda cool, loved the card art and the vibe of the game itself. Figured a video game would come out eventually....oh....only in Japan you say. Okay they'll get ported....(Nope). Oh one heard about this one coming out earlier this year got hype, then kinda forgot about it until I randomly looked on the eShop and saw this game that is the exact same price as God Of War: Raganarok and more than Pokemon. I simply will never play this game.
if you want another way to look at it, you could buy a box of Vanguard (or 2) or buy the game.
Paid it and haven't regretted no matter what i say when the ai gets 2 critial triggers and kills me when im at 3 damage
Play the game at Cardfight Vanguard Arena
Nothing about this game is worth anywhere near 70 dollars, it's literally a copy and paste of EX just with new cards.
I fear this is furyu making it fail to be able to say“ see we ported out to the west and didn’t get support. Never ask us to port again”
That's exactly what's going to happen. If it doesn't succeed then we're shafted once again.
@@TheUndefinedGhost they better reconsider Furyuu as a developer cause this isn't our fault.
I was hoping you’d make a video on this! Always love your videos.
I got Dear Days from the Brazilian eShop, so I’d consider getting some DLC sets, but if it costs too much I might not get it out of principle. Depends on how much I care about the new cards.
It just sucks that they took a great way to attract new players and flushed it down the toilet. Hopefully it gets a discount at some point.
Bushiroad is greedy , they could make Vanguard more popular but their greediness screws that up
If you got it from there it's the same cost as you paid to get the game which I assume it's how it is everywhere just like the usa
@@TrueAce2146 I got the game a few days before the DLC price was revealed. Since I had Brazilian currency left over, I had to use the rest of it before I could switch my account back to America. I lucked out and found a few games that added up to the exact amount I needed to spend.
I’d consider going through all that trouble again, but I’m a little worried I wouldn’t be able to get rid of the rest of the currency, and my account would be locked to Brazil. I guess I could buy the pass and use some leftover currency for other DLC like sleeves or fighters, and that would be a lot of money saved. And I could plan out the currency in advance to make sure I can spend every cent.
I’m heavily considering it, but I might wait. I don’t know.
@@Dragon_Ryder oh you was able to switch your account I just made s new account from that country so everything is separated already and it doesn't seem to be any problem rn
@@TrueAce2146 I just wanted the purchase to be associated with my main account, in case I need to redownload it from the eShop or transfer to a new Switch or something. I already have a Japanese account from when I bought EX, so I don’t really want to keep track of another regional account.
I might use the Brazilian eShop to get the DLC and sleeve set 1, but it’s kinda a tough decision. Not because I can’t afford it, I just don’t know if I want the DLC and I don’t know if I want to support overpriced content.
Though I am excited for the game, and buying DLC from Brazil would mean I got everything I wanted for around $60. It sure is tempting.
Just a reminder that because of how Diamond Economy works in the game, you can build all the Competitive Yu-Gi-Oh deck you want in Master Duel, FOR FREE. And THE GAME ITSELF is *FREE.*
This game is honestly going to be a huge flop. I love vanguard and I was looking forward to buying it but I’m going to skip on this because of the pricing.
My locals are non-existent. My options are 1)spend $70 on DD, or 2) moving on from Vanguard.
Cardfight Area or Untap. it's free, and you can find opponents from across the world. in case of Untap, you can even play cards the same day Bushi reveals them on live stream. a friend of mine already fought against Luquier in Standard
Just play on Area if you are that desparate
Still waiting for the first steam sale of this game. If it had been like $40 I would have a hundred hours in it by now easy
Did it get any discounts?
@@mundy1193 It's gone as low as $63. Which like yes is a sale but still more than BG3 at full price
@@zoesequeira5388 Yeah it's still not worth it lmfao💀
I'll never buy this unless it goes on sale.
Bushiroad just needs to cut ties with FuRyu at this point
The first Rush Duel game actually had 3 or 4 FREE card updates in Japan (english didn't get any), adding in about 4-5 sets I believe, which included the new Fusion mechanic which wasn't in the base game. The final update also gave every character in the game new decks, which means a lot of content was added, and you could fight AI with their fully updated decks (nevermind the amount of new summoning animations and voice lines added). The DLC was pretty much just buying complete decks, so you could skip it.
I'm genuinely surprised how generous Konami was and that makes this whole Vanguard thing even more shocking. Nevermind the fact that EX released up to date on the week. I'm just upset because the way this is going, we'll likely NOT get Set 8 too which really sucks, because that set looks so much fun. I would have been perfectly fine with this DLC being $30 while we pay another $30 for Set 8, 9 and Messiah
I'm still livid about the missing updates on rush duel here in the west
They’ll probably add them in when Yu-gi-oh sevens English dub gets to its second season.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 is that even gonna happen? The wait has been little over a year now
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 it might Sevens in English is currently in the Goha 6 arc after it is the tournament arc that ends the 1st season.
The pricing is ridiculous, if they want to expand this to gain new people get into the game.
This action is clearly not for it, I say its an act to milk out the player base who will buy it without a second thought.
I am interested for getting it to bring support of the game, but the pricing is too much for this type of game. The demo does not feel 40+ game for me.
I'll pass for this one, I do not want to support this form of actions.
Played the demo... and was shocked with all the typos I saw. I really hope it's fixed, given it's high price.
The demo used auto translation I heard
@@SpartanTrigger not really inspiring hope rn if this is true, imagine paying 70 dollars for a VN experience that cannot even do that
They probably won't. Seeing how they don't even care for proper pricing
I mean, the typos mostly seem to be in the tutorial.. which is still unfortunate for new players
@@SpartanTrigger “no lose intended” yeah… sounds like it was auto translated
As an argentinean, I was looking forward to the game. Getting the physical cards ain't easy and for most of us building a full deck gets even harder without reprints due to low stock, taxes and shipping fees.
Was really hoping for the game to be an alternative to all of that.
But they did us dirty with those prices 😅.
I've been waiting for this video since I saw the dlc prices.
Honestly, they could have done this a 100 times better. I believe one of the fears they have is that they lose tcg players to Dear Days. In my opinion they could have taken advantage of this like they did with Zero, just making tournaments with Dear Days since it'll have a ranked system and they said it'd be updated (at least until chronojet set).
The pricing for the game was expected on 60 dollars since EX was around that price in JP and 70 dollars was a surprise. Then the dlc prices were crazy because of how expensive they were having to pay 15 dollars for set separately and 70 for all of them together along with sleeves. But the release dates... they are expecting people to wait until February to play set 6 which already has about 5 months in JP and almost 1 month in EN. By the time it comes out EN would be playing set 8 and JP would be playing set 9. It was crazy. A lot of people wanted to try this game as maybe a simulator before buying the cards after trying them in DD since (at least me) it was expected to be a month difference between tcg and DD like it was said in the video.
Also we don't get to know if set 8 and above would be updated to the game after. Honestly, I believe they took one of the worst decisions ever with the marketing strategy with the game. But hopefully they'll take a look at all the emails and maybe do something about it.
At this point, they should have included set 8 in the pass.
right now looking at other options, and it seems like getting it off play asia is better than getting it locally if you are mainly playing it in single player, there doesn't seem to be many cons to getting it via play asia from what I can scour, checking if it affects your ability to play online or local multiplayer.
>machine translated
>$70 base game
>$70 for the card pass
>Not even physical release
>The card sets date release being from February to June of 2023
>Releasing a day before Pokemon
Yeah, they want this to die. This whole thing is unjustifiable. Anyone defending this is out of their fanboy minds.
You do have to wonder why on earth they would make some of the choices they did. Like, seriously? Releasing the game the same day as a new pokemon game and MORE expensive? It just doesn't make sense and I feel like that's so basic in terms of common sense/marketing strategy that it makes me wonder if they actually have competent people making those decisions or if they have someone filling a position that just doesn't know what they're doing. It is frustrating to all the people who enjoy the game and want to see it grow so they can have access to more product/events in their local area and this was such a huge opportunity for the game and they dropped the ball. I think the game is good as far as a TCG game goes, especially for those of us who can't play IRL because not enough players/support. So to have access to this is huge. But like everyone else has already mentioned, it could introduced more people to the game and grown the community...but they slapped a $70 price tag on it that no average kid can afford and no sensible person is going to pay if they're just curious or don't know a thing about CFV. If I could I'd post a gif of Napoleon Dynamite with the text that says "Ugh!!....friggin' IDIOTS!!"
yeah, at 70 bucks this is absurd. I would love to play this game but i will never be able to justify a 70 dollar game on the Switch. The console runs more poorly than my old ps4 pro or xbox one and they're pricing it at next gen console prices??? Sorry but i'll boycott this game just to help tank their sales. Its just greedy and insulting to my intelligence.
They didn’t even care enough to release the demo on switch!!!
How I’m supposed to pay $70 without a damn demo to try!
I also feel like it's Furyu... I kind of hope Bushiroad moves forward with a different company instead cause the prices are ridiculous...
Bushi knew what they were doing. Is not like they went fully ignorant into Furyu
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 I assume Furyu sets the price and Bushiroad is working with them because they've already got an engine for the game developed. I also don't know if they expected such a ridiculous price for release in the US.
Compared to the quality of Master Duel which is FREE, this huge starting price for DD is simply extreme. I’d gladly pay up to $50~ for this but $70 is a whole fucking lot.
I mean you can't really compare the two games despite both being TCG, since one is buy once and you'll get everything and the other is a essentially Gacha game.
@@skylernguyen8600
Given how card game video games usually go, DD will definitely have a pack system as well making it a gacha as well
@@shmarfle47 a gacha system and a gacha game arent the same Xenoblade 2 had a Gacha system(kinda for that whole blade summon thing), but is not a Gacha game
Gacha games is just you pay more to get what you want
@@skylernguyen8600 So, DD do have a gacha system and most of the eay to get cards is just to pull packs or craft them, literally like the other free-to-play card games on the market.
Dear Days already charging for future cards as DLC while other free-to-play only make it as a free update.
@@tweetugwe1270 The packs are bought by in-game point currency you get from playing the game. There is no spending money to get cards from packs on top of this steep price
I thought that dear days being 70 in the usa was bad the steam pricing for Australia is nearly 89 dollars like wtaf are they thinking I paid less for a copy of the new pokemon game like the hell
I used Matt's Brazil trick you mentioned. My wife and I both play so the 70 dollar price tag would have been WAY too much as we both have our own switch. She's new to the franchise (she just entered BCS with me!) and this is a HUGE learning opportunity. And that's my main concern: helping new players learn or even experienced players expand. The standard price in one of the biggest markets is just a block to that.
Brazil trick gets you game, DLC, and then some for a little under $60
Is there a link to a tutorial?
is this for switch or steam?
@@tikilinde407both can work but this method is mainly switch as steam doesn't allow the cross region stuff anymore
Gonna quote my own video on this and say
*Massive audience facepalm*
yea i just decided to not get it ill actually just stop playing the game and ive been playing for more than 6 years a damn shame ive always wanted this
I bet furyu is pricing this way to convince their producers that the game isn't popular outside of japan so they can go back to japan only
I hadn't even considered that the dlc would take HALF A YEAR AFTER PHYSICAL SETS to release. You can't even playtest for worlds with this game. Jesus CHRIST, this is a disaster...
With this being the first English game, and seeing how anything local has been canceled here it is pretty upsetting seeing how much it cost. Due to this it is the only way I can ever really try to get into D. Hopefully it will be a great game when it comes out and I can try to get some people into to get some locals going again
Imagine thinking I’m paying 70 dollars for a digital children’s card game when I don’t even pay 60 for AAA titles.
#bringbackcardfightonline
for a while now it has felt like Bushi is on the verge of doing to Vanguard what they did to Buddyfight. They're making things harder to get into and eventually we might see things just collapse entirely. Secondary market for the physical TCG and FuRyu charging so much isn't helping anything either. We also have more DLC revealed for DearDays but it hasn't been added to the $70 DLC pack, so it's likely going to be a separate transaction on its own (or put into another $70 bundle with other future DLC as well). I've loved Vanguard since 2012, but it feels like the companies and even players themselves are trying to choke the game out til it dies. Not sure it'll survive another reboot if they ever try that again. I say this knowing that they had plans for Overdress to last into like 2025 or something, but that's just what they are hoping for, and if it crashes, it crashes.
As a potential new player who has been trying to get into Vanguard for around a year due to friends not being interested (and you can only battle with yourself and the same 2 decks for so long before you lose your mind lol), this pricing is going to be a huge kill factor as like most people probably ive just preordered Scarlet and Violet so I am really hoping that with the Steam winter sale this game will drop to around 40 or even 50 which would be great for the community as a whole to get the newer players into the game. Besides the point, been really enjoying your videos and can't wait to see the dear days content!!
because of the pricing, it makes my decision to buy drop from 100% to like 40%-50%. I want to buy the game because of online but if the price especially the dlc is too expensive for me just to play online, I would rather don't buy it for online and switch back to cfa. And also there are ways to play the game just for the story without buying which will tempt most people. Just like you said, they are really losing opportunity to open up the franchise
I was hella hyped for this game. Yeah, I can't afford buying boxes for each set, plus, I don't have friends that want to play with me anyway, so the game was amazing news when I first heard it. The announcement was made exactly at the time I took interest in it. But man, the prices tho.
Exactly this game was supposed to finally be a way for me to play this game at all since I have no one to play it with and all the other games of it are in Japanese. But sadly the price does not much the product at all
If the game was a free gacha like Master Duel you'd easily have to spend WAY more than $70 to build a deck, and you'd be spending forever. Even accounting for paid DLC in the future for Dear Days the spend value is going to be way less.
As someone who has 0 local presence, Dear Days was going to finally be my chance at a regulated way to play Vanguard with other people and maybe even convince a buddy or two to try the game out for themselves. That's just not realistic anymore at $70, and as someone who has been on the sidelines for so long it is a massive bummer.
Never considered that FuRyu could have been the one to set the price, not Bushiroad. Still, I sent my email to Bushiroad and they said they forwarded it to the appropriate department. Which kinda seems like a blow-off but I'll take what I can get. More than likely I'll still by the game. Perhaps after Cyber Monday here the US. BUT. I'm going to transfer my account to my friends own consoles so they can download the game. If I'm not mistaken once the game is downloaded onto the system anyone can play it.
It's kinda reassuring that FuRyu could have been the one that set the price and not Bushiroad. Means that Bushiroad wouldn't have done this deliberately which would be shooting themselves in the foot. Used to think that they maybe did it on purpose so they would have an excuse not to release video games internationally.
Yeah, this pricing is absurd. Furyu needs to calm down.
lol im here because i wanna buy it i was just wondering why does it cost so much, and what kind of game was i getting for $70 is it all the cards plus adding new sets. yes no other game is 70 they are 60 at most POKEMON IS 60 BAYONETTA IS 60. what am i getting for 70 and 70 dlc wth. im only thinking about it because i miss vanguard and i quit when they reworked the whole card game (i played dark witch's and nightmare dolls, and harri palemoon was my main I still have my decks)
So basically the reason why no one else gets to play a VG video-game is because of Furyu. At first I thought "that's kinda the japanese business model, sadly, they're a bit xenophobic". But then with the switch and older Digital releases, that literally cost them nothing (save for translation and overseas taxes) and Furyu does this? Yeah, WHY is bushiroad so reliant on them? I mean, if anything, it seems like Furyu just wants to keep the game IN Japan, for whatever reason. So like, why doesn't bushiroad just release it digitally? Without their involvement? Because from what I can see of the horrible typos and mishandled prices, Furyu isn't helping them much.
I think it’s just crazy how pricey the DLC is to have a card game video game to have that pricey dlc?? The base game is already asking a lot for it being 69.99 (nice) the other games on the market are slightly cheaper than it and a bigger sale like Pokémon. While I can understand dlc to add in more cards in the future I don’t get why it has to cost as much as the base game to add these cards and when those cards will be available most likely no one will be playing the game anymore with how they have done. With Vanguard EX they just put that game out there and never gave it card updates so the game was already outdated by the time it came out with its last in game set being Raging Tactics. Idk how the base game would go it does seem like it would have a decent amount of packs in it but it will also be outdated unless you buy the DLC and you won’t even have the DLC available until later. This is a game that won’t be giving anymore work after it’s out, it’s not like a service like MTG Arena, Pokémon Online, Yugioh Master Duel which are all free games with transactions but will free to play. This is a 69.99 game in my area with DLC that cost the same for a game that I won’t be playing in the future and might pick up here and there got a few matches.
I do mostly play Furyuu I don’t have it confirmed but I have heard that they don’t like to bring games outside of Japan and it could be them trying to force Bushiroad to make the game more expensive than other games in the market. I will still hold blame for Bushiroad for thinking it’s a good idea to release a game right before Pokémon is going to come out and asking for more money than the Pokémon game. They should have just made an online service game imo. Pokémon has been having an online service for the longest time, Magic has had a few in the past but recently has stuck with it and Yugioh finally just made their online service game and all of these aren’t asking people to spend lots of money just to start playing, they are all free to play and you choose if you want to spend more money on it or not. The big 3 have online services and if Vanguard doesn’t want to die off they should get with the times. We should have just gotten an online service that is cross-platform so we can just play some vanguard, we don’t need a story based card game cause most people aren’t going to be paying attention to that and just going through the story mode so they can make their deck.
It’s like they are trying to kill this game so they don’t have to have any globe releases. As much as I enjoy the system that Furyuu has made they should consider partnering with someone else to develop games in the future
I'm disabled, and I kept wanting a Vanguard video game for years so I could actually play vanguard.
I was so hype when i just randomly finding out that a vanguard video game was actually going to be english...but, now I'm dissapointed.
Bruh why is Cardfight Vanguard acting like it's popular enough to have that price in the United States. Not even Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh are aiming for that price. Usually when you attempting to become more popular in a region, you undersell yourself to become more attractive options for players to try out. Making $69.99 is a death move for Cardfight Vanguard since only die hards will get it.
Yeah the pricing really does feel crazy
Not to mention the weird release date, really hope FuRyu listens to the community about this
I honestly thought are they not learn from Master Duel? Master Duel is arguably the most played TCG Video Game on the world just because how generous the Konami is, they gave us bunch of new cards for free, new sleeve, and many new stuff for free. But then bushiroad sell their game at 70 bucks with no dlc and MTL translation? I really am not gonna buy this game for 70$, i rather pain my ass to brazil region so i can buy the game for 20$
Idk if anyone has mentioned this yet and I'm halfway through the video so disregard if it was covered. Perhaps the game is so expensive because they know how small of a market there is for vanguard but still need to recover the cost of making the game. If they want to make a decent game, it needs a higher budget so essentially the theory is that they are relying on the dedicated fans to support the cost of the game and bringing in new players would be a nice-to-have vs selling the game cheaper and risking not many new people buying the game to make up the difference.
I truly can't understand why vanguard is struggling so much in the TCG arena because it is MUCH more beginner friendly than yugioh and also has that appeal to younger players. Not to mention, it's fun and the cards look awesome, especially for anime fans. Now thinking of it, the thing that pokemon and yugioh have are anime that pulled people in...Overdress was pretty decent for what it was...Willdress seems to be even better. The pro crossdressing and boy on boy relationship stuff was a little blatant but that's whatever and another topic. If they could invest in working with a studio to make a hit anime based around the card game and marketed aggressively in the States and EU with product and events, they could contend with pokemon and yugioh.
Screw that price. Make an account from a region that's cheaper and buy it there. Got mine from Chile for like $31 tax included.
it seems that the DLC problem has only gotten worse. i recently checked on steam cause i was interested in it and wanted to see how much i'd have to save up to get the game and DLC's. then i saw that combined, it costs £223, £170 of it being just the DLC's. i could just get 4 or 5 standard priced games for that price. i don't really understand why bushi would put such a high barrier to entry on a game with a fanbase that's already very small compared to its competitors
edit: turns out the reason it was showing as £170 to me is because it was showing the additional card pass, aswell as all the things seperately, so it would have been me paying for the same things twice
This game is a cash grab lmaooo no ride animations it’s practically ex with a texture pack talk about lazy production and 70 dollar DLC u gotta be trippppian I ain’t buying this crap they ruined zero and know they ruining dear days love it
I am not a cardfighter player, but I've been interested in playing for a while. I was looking forward to this as a chance to jump into this game. The price though has really put me off, I doubt i will buy it on release now.
You're much better off starting on Vanguard Zero if you're new to the game.
I am gonna pass on dear days to either the price go's way down or I find a copy to Pirate. I am sorry but this game is way to God dam expensive at 70 dollars. There is no reason why a tcg should cost this much, when both Master duel and and pokemon tcg live are both free to play friendly.
I'm 100% sure the reason is just because they also decided to put it on Nintendo where everything is overpriced because nintendo players are starving for games on that console.
so furyu also did the crazy prices for batosupi connected battlers... like kris said, best thing to do is sending bushinroad emails, politely btw don't go tell them to "fuck themselfs" you know, and hope for the best, the dream would be a change in price, but my guts say that it might have been some contractual obligation with furyu to have this absolute asinine prices, which would be the worst type of scenario... yeah, we can only send the emails and hope for the best, I already sent mine because I remembered matt's post about it, and I recommend y'all doing it too
Honestly, I was waiting ever since I started playing Vanguard all those years ago for a game like this. Where I live I only have like 1 or 2 People to play with and I really wished for something like ygopro for cardfight. The price does seem a bit high (I live in germany so it's probably gonna be a little high but still kind of standard game pice) but honestly I am willing to play for it. I also pre ordered Pokémon and I honestly have to say it really doesn't bother me at all. I can play pokémon with my son and then when he goes to sleep I can play a bit of Vanguard, or vice versa. But of course that is just my opinion. I will buy it on steam because my friends buy it for steam too. The pricing for the dlc is pretty insane though, I did not expect that. I will most likely only buy the base game and just play for fun.
The scariest thing about this game for me is that they may just stop updating it. With EX it released with the cards it had and that was it, so it quickly became outdated. With Master duel we were told beforehand that the game would keep up (relatively speaking) with the tcg - however we have had no such confirmation with DearDays…
@@dred_dreamr Yes that is my concern as well. If you think about it Set 7 comes 31st of May 2023, until then we will probably have 1 or 2 more sets, and what if they never update it? Then we have to wait so long to play a set that will be old already by that time. Thinking about it I would probably only purchase Set 6 and 7. I do not like lyrical anyway, and I do not need to play the chrono deck. And if you think about it, you get the set in germany for 16,99 Euros, a full display often costs around 60-70 Euros irl, so you basicly get all the cards for 16,99 (since you can buy the packs ingame for the VP that you farm) so from that perspective it actually does not seem too bad. But still, paying for 2 games for something that in my opinion should be in the game from the start (or at least set 6) is just so...frustrating you know? But knowing me, I will most likely still buy it because I am a whale and I love Vanguard
Here in the netherlands its €58.99 on switch so it should be the same price in germany (still hope the steam version is cheaper) but i will be a day 1 buy anyway
@@Jrpg-Gamer1 same, as soon as i get the steam notification I will purchase it xD
I tried to let my friend try vanguard because they like urara and want to try her deck.I honesty will buy him the game if he want but a 70$ game+dlc is to much for a new player
I was gonna do the same for my girlfriend. But I just don't have the sufficient savings right now to even get the 70 dollars for her🥲
If we’re lucky, dear days will get the destiny 2 treatment and the developers will realize their mistakes. Only if we’re lucky though
What sucks about this is that for someone like me that lives in the US and has nobody to play the physical game with, this is the only way I can play the game that I love so it just feels so wrong that these pricings are this expensive and I just have to either pay it or just not play the game.
there's are F2P alternatives for Vanguard, mostly Cardfight Area or Untap. I've been using Untap for years and honestly it's great! their discord server is a chill place, too
You could join the vanguard discord. That's what I did
@@newlegend2402 that’s how I normally play it’s great everyone is so friendly
@@lynxace1602 thank you for the suggestion I will definitely have to check those out
As someone who's got no one to play with I have no choice but to buy it to enjoy Vanguard with people and its disappointing for me for that price
The way i see it its still ALOT cheaper than getting trying to get a physical copy of the cards and not to mention getting a hold of said physical cards aint that easy. If people still think its too expensive then just wait for it to go on sale or you could always just go to table top sim.
THANK YOU! You addressed all my problems with these damn prices that the company has just 💩 out. I want this game to succeed and grow with all of standard and this is such a wall and pretty greedy of them to just charge so much for cards you won't get to play off the bat.
Dear Days is just another failure for me. CFA is just better option
Every company that do this things? I hope it will flop.
I loved the regional pricing, in Brazil Dear Days has almost the same price as those overdress start decks. Here those "3 or 4 dollars" cost around R$110 while DD is R$127. I hope so much that steam will have regional pricing too cuz Nintendo left Brazil in 2015 so they consoles are so expensive as Vanguard physical stuff. A Switch in Brazil is around R$2300 wich is entire 2 mounths of work if you earn minimum wage
Nintendo actually came back to Brazil in 2020. Still no regional pricing though, which sucks. DD feels so cheap in comparison to most of the games I want on Switch...
personally in my opinion shadowverse was a better game then this i prefer playing that over this
Hey that price abd download only makes me sad and will probably not get it
They could at least turn the Price to 20$ or something
I had hopes but nah, fuck this. Not gonna buy it.
The dlc really just turned people off
Welp. There goes me getting back into the game.
Yep, they killed it. I legit see no reason for me to continue hoping that I’ll ever see a day where I can actively play the TCG of vanguard. After the disappointment of online not being a thing, I stopped playing and came back for overdress. Was hoping dear days would be an actual replacement so I could play it since I have no one to play with irl. Since it’s so overpriced and I would never support this because it’s scummy. I don’t know how long I’ll stay with Vanguard at this point. Zero is the only way I can actively play the game and that’s aggravating. I’ll buy it from Brazil if anything I guess
What time exactly they open the server?
So years ago when Vanguard first came out. I was interested in the TCG, I even got Dragonic Overload/Toshiki Kai's starter deck. At that point in time my friends and I were already playing Yu-Gi-Oh, I was interested in trying out the new card game but none of my other friends were committed to trying it out. Now years later, a few months ago (around May/June) some of my online friends mentioned they were interested in getting back into Vanguard, and I was down and willing to pick up, learn, and actually play the game for once. Convenient enough at that point in time Dear Days was revealed and announced. Which got me excited since as a Yu-Gi-Oh player who has played the TCG competitively, I played YGOPRO, I enjoyed Legacy of the Duelist, and when Master Duel came out I was happy and excited for them to release a F2P game that has cards across all of the series itself, of course there is micro-transactions but it is also cross-platform and cross-play. I played Vanguard with said friends that I mention on Tabletop, we went with Premium and V-Premium format. I also played and tried out Vanguard Zero and I had fun with both, but I wanted a Vanguard game that is similar to the actual TCG equivalent to Yu-Gi-Oh and Legacy of the Duelist or Master Duel along with mechanics being automated for convenience and being able to play with friends or other players online. I was still excited for Dear Days even after learning it was going to be in Standard format, which I don't mind learning, picking up, and playing even though it wont be as vast or as dynamic as Premium format, I was just excited to play the actual TCG virtually. then I played the demo of Dear Days, which wasn't bad though there were things I was surprised with them not having or including, like being able to change Key Bindings for convenience and compared to the Yu-Gi-Oh games that I mentioned or even Vanguard Zero, there was no unique presentation to give that impact when you bring out that Grade 3 Vanguard, which was a bit underwhelming but I was still satisfied knowing at least I can play Vanguard genuinely with official rule set and mechanics, and it would be in a format that is easy to digest for new players to the game as a whole or the format. But then a couple of days ago, seeing how the price hasn't been revealed on Steam yet for Dear Days. I decided to open the Nintendo website, find Dear Days, and then I saw that price. I am now less likely to get the game since I am also getting Pokemon, I might try to buy the game still whether is waiting to see if they eventually drop the price/it goes on sale, or getting the game in a different country/region just so it is easier to obtain without it costing soo much, not to mention I wasn't aware that the DLC for the games will cost just as much as the game itself. It really lowers the encouragement for me to get the game and try it out, along with my friends who play Vanguard, they aren't willing to spend 70 dollars, plus they are competing with other online TCG games. From ones you can buy and play like Legacy of the Duelist, or F2P like Master Duel, or Legends of Runeterra, Hearthstone, etc. If the issue is the Dev's/FuRyu and it isn't Bushiroad that placed the game in such a high price, I do hope things change not only so that I can get the game and play it, but if they want to compete with the other digital TCGs and have more people interested and get invested in to Vanguard entirely, They need make changes for the better for the community and the potential for the franchise as a whole.
DLC prices and how long the DLC released are seal of the deal to me that I don't want to buy it unless, the price on Steam is a lot cheaper bc there're a lot of games I also want to buy that aren't as expensive as DD. Also, I tried the Demo and it doesn't feel worth the prices that is more expensive than some games like Pokemon S&V.
The pricing is nuts but I am getting it anyways just like I got vanguard ex. I agree they are missing out on new players with the pricing. I have been telling all my friends at my local shop about the game but once they see the cost moat of them probably won't buy it
I feel like you should actively avoid buying it, hopefully if it at 70 dollars flops they'll reduce the price
It’s sucks for me the most the closest shop that I can buy cases and play with people is a hour long drive. On a stroad a terrible fusion of a highway and road. This games online would have saved me long trips and gas.
Is ranked going to be against anyone across the world or are there different servers?
Yep anyone that’s on the same platform
I honestly was hoping for a free game like masterduel and, and I would 100% drop money on card packs and play the shit out of this game cuz I love vgcf and it's aesthetics, but this is insanity
I swear I try to keep liking this game. Nobody to play the real game with here, small town, they don't advertise the game for shit so it's not as big. finally a way for me to play with real rules while being digital, and it ends up more expensive than other games I'd get more out of. I'm stuck on switch right now, and I can guarantee if this game has online play, I'd have to buy the online on top of my internet, which I will not do. I only found the game through vgzero, and they got greedier and made it shittier. I swear it's like they want me to stop playing
Aside from the pricing, it's also extremely unfortunate that it feels like the game just wasn't made for PC at all. From playing the demo, it feels like they literally made a switch game and afterwards decided "hey lets make it available on PC as well" porting the functionality very poorly. With games out there like Hearthstone and Master Duel, even Pokemon TCG live and online, which feel super fluid, built for PC, bushiroad had perfect templates on how to make a good looking and feeling online card game but just didn't. The game wasn't at all made to be played with on a mouse and its such a shame because, for one its the largest market outside of Japan, and also because of how much money these other comparable games make. If the gameplay was good, I would consider forking out the money, but with the clunky controls and jerky, uncontrollable camera views, its the biggest 'no' factor for me.
Despite Fuyu setting the prices, it is also 100% Bushiroad's fault as they were the ones that very likely approved it in the first place. There is no way they didn't see this price unless they were the dumbest company that approves stuff with their eyes closed (actually I can totally believe that).
Just another fat Bushiroad L for the list.
Also considering how people in both English and JP have been clamoring at Bushi to address the problem with OTs for more than a year and Bushiroad hasn't done shit, I doubt all the support emails they'll get will actually do anything. At best they'll do what they do best and put their fingers in their ears and pretend they don't hear anything.
While I agree to an extent, bushi does have some fault here but Furyu is still the main one charging this, add that even if bushi did approve we dno when, and how far in devlopment they were. Even if Bushi lets say did know what were they gonna do about it, not like they can just stop development or switch devs if Furyu is insiting that it should be x price, especially if they already sent out games this price before. Also doing your part and trying sure ots havent changed but dosent mean you just stop and dont try at this point if theres anything we can do we can try, theyve responded before multiple times (Remeber the whole issues on crits set 3 with bruce, and the immediate restrictions?). Dont get me wrong I dont defend completely defend bushi but seeing the evidence sounds like Furyu has the biggest handle on this, and it sucks they had them develop it and are potentially just stuck with what they gave them.
it 10 aus bro it not that mush ??
i think its too overpriced for what the game is , its a 20$ game , 30$ with DLCS that aren't probably worth that price anyway. It's not a 60$ game.
I was waiting for the shadowverse mention because i recall getting it for 30 euros, and this is not to mention is a game with 3D models and scenarios, which is a lot of work.
Also special mention to Rush Duel which got supported in the long run.
personally i can take the DLC price even though i fully accept there are a lot of people who can't but those release dates..... WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?!
I play the pokemon and ygo online tcg clients(PTCG Live and Master duel respectively). Both are very f2p friendly. A new account can have 1-3 decks easily built with the dust and initial dump of in-game currency. If you cant build anymore decks in the account you can always make a new account for free.
I was very excited to play Dear Days but the price point is turning me off. Might pick it up when it goes on a massive sale. 70bucks+DLC just isnt worth it to me
Sg price is 58.99😂
Literally unplayable
I started seeing videos for DD and it got me interested to play Vanguard for the first time. But that price point in the US is just ridiculous. I’m trying out Zero f2p instead lol
So is the game supposed to be released on the Switch today or tomorrow? The eShop states it's on the 16th, while the Bushiroad site says the 17th. I'm confused
Probably later, because as DF said. The game is going to be released 24 hours from now as the release time is most likely following the JP schedule which is why countries like the US are getting it on the 16th since it'll be 17 after 5 or 4 more hours for JP. Just a hunch though, I don't know the exact time of these releases
@@miguellecaperal7402 Most likely. Appreciate the input.
At this point I cant even be surprised, we were all expecting too much from the same company that's outright refused to release their previous games to the west. And I wouldn't be surprised if furyu also pulled out from doing future releases after this stunt. I dont know what's wrong with this company, why are they so gung ho about japanese releases only? What the hell did today's bushiroad do to get them to finally agree to this? That we'll never know.
"Regional pricing"
So just go to Greece, got it.
Edit: Wow, the prices website ruined my joke. Damn. I'm surprised, I was under the impression you don't get a worse GDP or whatever the hell than Greece, but apparently not if it's average price.
Well, time to get a ticket to Columbia, I guess.
If had known where this was going I wouldn’t have preordered the game.
The extremely high price point is definitely off putting. I can't see myself paying 70$ for a game that shouldn't be more than 40 AT MOST. I mean, Master Duel is wildly successful and it FREE!! Bushiroad may need to do some changes in the future if they game doesn't sell well (or at all) because no way will this game have a staggeringly high player base like Master Duel or even VG Zero with the price looking like this
Just checked the price on steam, in my country it's roughly 34 USD. I'm not sure if it's regional pricing it steam.
if you have a job, do not touch the season pass...buy the updates when they come out. It's less strenuous for your wallet
The game is $43 on Play-Asia for switch right now, I just bought it there for that price.
I honestly don't care much about the price. What I don't like is that they're so slow in releasing sets. It should be at most 1 set behind from the TCG.