I love your honesty, i think many people plan their gear like they are going on 2-3 month long walk-throughs when they ultimately are just "weekend warriors" like the rest of us.. Sadly alot of people plan their meals on relatively short trips as if they are going on expeditions, they "deny" them self alot of luxury stuff when it comes to food just to save an extra 2-300 grams :) Greetings from Northern Norway :)
Great video! I believe we all have so many cook setups now days.. one for car camping, solo hiking, one for group hiking. Its crazy how much gear we accumulate. I usually carry dry foods.. with a toaks 550 for coffee w/brs or my favorite stove MSR Pocket-rocket.Then on those couple trips. I’ll take the GSI 1.1L Halulite boiler with MSR Pocketrocket Deluxe. Carrying the sea to summit pan and collapsable bowl and cups. Either way.. solo hiking or not..it just sometimes feels what your in the mood for and what food your carrying.
Really appreciate your evolution of pots. I have found myself to be going in just the opposite direction. Also glad to hear you talk at some length about "philosophy of use" in regards to you your choices. Wish more people would drill down into those things before posting their videos. Cheers from Montreal QC
I’ve been using the MSR Titan kettle and the Snowpeak Gigapower for over 15 years. I’ve been happy with it, and I particularly like the piezo lighter that comes with it.
Enjoyed the video and appreciate the tips given. The smaller diameter jet boil canister stand - great to know it will sit flat in a small pot. You're progression to a Giga Power stove for stability is good advice too. The most insightful thing was you admitting to yourself the type of hikes you do means you don't necessariy need thru hiker gear. Impressed with how much you get out. I subscribed!
I'm buying everything it really don't need. I went to REI and tried on a pair of TOPO that you were looking at and could turn my foot sideways and almost walk out them, not for me. Lol
Nothing wrong with being a weekend hiker. The most I have done in one weekend is the Mt Hood loop rail which I believe is 40 miles or so. Of course I dream of thru hiking but I do not think that is for me. Just want to have fun....not break records.
Good information, thanks. As for the overly large canister stand, I simply reduced its bulk by grinding a bit its feet, so that it fits perfectly into the 750 ml pot.
Very good points. Most of us are not thru hiking and can greatly improve the camping and eating portion of our experience with just a little more weight.
Another great review, John! We have the old faithful that we’ve used for years. So true...no through hikes for us, either! We were in denial for years🤣Lisa
Billy's Bikes & Brews use the Toaks 750. ToaksTi stove or Pocket Rocket and other stuff all packed into the pot. I have the 450 cup too, but at Toaks prices , cost isn’t really a consideration. The 900 isn’t too expensive if you’re sharing catering on your hikes. Oh, the Fire Maple Ti stove is good kit too..
I am not a hiker at all, but enjoy motorcycle camping. Since I only buy light weight gear, I am interested in putting things together for the space I have. Granted, I know I overdo it by backpacking standards but I have room on my motorcycle for a larger tent, a campcot, mattress, and camp quilt. I will bear in mind your suggestions when I decide to give up my Jetboil. Thanks for a very informative video.
Nice kits. I agree with your thinking, for shorter trips you can increase your comfort. I’ve put together a 750ml pot kit with the BRS stove and was able to add a collapsible silicone cup. The burner fits inside the cup.
Used the toaks 750 pot last winter in -5 C, in a forested area with no wind. I don't buy a lot of this freeze dried stuff as i like bringing ingredients and cook. I'd say the pot "works" for this but it will overflow and the lid won't fit on top, this was with some boat potatoes, kidney beans, red paprika, frozen vegetables and minced pork. But it can be done!, but one pot of food won't be enough in those conditions so you gotta cook at least a second time i think.
I still use my 750 ml setup especially on longer hikes. On my overnights I like cooking things from home so use another setup that includes a small frying pan. Thanks for taking a few minutes out you busy schedule to make a great comment.
@@SeniorHiker77 I see 😂 I was lucky, started with a 3 lb coffee can and a steel fry pan heating over a fire. Worked great. So did the 8x8 plastic tarp for a tent. Everything from there was a move up...until it wasn't. Now I'm almost back to the beginning and it only took me 50 years. But I'm much happier with the lighter weight.
Do you not want bail handles on your pots? For campfire cooking or water collection simplicity. Loved your explanation of the changes you made over the years, it makes total sense. Thanks for the help with my hiking set up, always trying to learn from the experienced in all aspects of life. Stay well.
At one time I was thinking about bail handles but never cook in the fire. My brother-in-law is more of a bushcraft person and he has cooked directly on the coals but not for me. Thanks for taking time to make a comment.
Good information there. I’m putting together some titanium cook sets. Totals 1100 is one of them. Going to be doing some outdoor cooking and product testing soon. Great vid.
I am in the same boat and I like to enjoy my food. I would like to do some thru-hiking but it is hard with the kids being little. My daughter gets pretty upset after I'm gone one night lol.
Great cook sets... I only have two sets (stainless) with some cheep stoves and one alcohol stove... Did not get to use them but a few time this year so far... 🙁
Nice sharing and tips. I do like buying stuffs like u did and i was impressed with your choices as well👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Lucky that i owned jetboil canister support and it fits my 750ml just like u said.
Do you think you might go with a tiny wood stove like Mike P hiker? Free fuel appeals to me and before ‘going tiny’ I used to ask landowners for permission to turf a ‘leave no trace’ fire to cook on - no stove or fuel was the sexy lightweight option back then! (...I remember that you took a tin of soup or fruit cocktail for the first day and that was your ‘pan’ for the week too!)
I do have 2 small titanium wood stoves and use them from time to time. I find them fun and wanted to develop a new skill like MikeP but found them to be to much work. MikeP like a little bushcraft and I don't but I do watch everything he does because he is always experimenting with something. Lol
This is my favorite stove... I like ut tests of the pots. But a to much compact gas burner make a to intensive and concentrate spot of heat... My Gas burner spread the heat some.
@@SeniorHiker77 600 mils, yea I need power, going to go back to my old Caption Stag, @ 9 grams it has a regulator that goes full open. Made in Japan. I did pick up the Evernew 1000 mil Pasta Kettle and the 400 cup, its only me and two smaller humans, Im the coffee drinker. good vids
Very useful video! Basically what I wanted to see compared, but I just have a question. I'm wondering if the MSR Titan Kettle will fit the 227g (medium) sized canisters inside? Thanks!
This is all really good, pal! Thanks a lot for sharing, it is indeed very personal for preferences uses etc. So it's really important to show the history of how one gets there :) I didn't understand the canister support though, you showed it seemingly flat at the bottom of the 750 (our right) then opened and shut then said it would only fit on its side, maybe it looked flat but not in actuality? The msr kettle I've looked into but I've gone right off it finding California (msr is based there) has a something law 95 I forget what it is but basically warning of harmful products which may cause the likes of cancer and such. I really hope I'm wrong but I'm right off it anyway, looks awesome. If I remember right, the toaks/lixada 750 is lighter anyway, I don't know. Those stoves of yours are bloody small, very impressive! I'm casually looking for something smaller and lighter but comfortable with the self igniting five pound Amazon generic stove, it's been way more reliable than the robens firemidge which seems a knock off from the brs, mines absolutely useless. I should really try the brs, everyone's talking positively about it and I know just how small it is. Also, what may I ask is your accent, where from? I'm British, not used to American accents so curious :)
I have a BRS stove that is several years old. Works great but sometimes I just take my commercially made fancee feast alcohol stove. Whatever it takes...just get out there.
I wouldnt mind adding an 8" pan to my kit. The ability to cook more versatile meals outweights (pun intended) the small bit of extra weight. Thanks for the video.
@@SeniorHiker77 I'm looking at fry pan options. I'll use on a titanium wood stove and small gas stove. Should I go with a steel, titanium, or aluminum pan? The msr alpine is steel with aluminum backing. Some say it heats more evenly. I'm concerned about ease of cleaning too, I've been known to scorch some eggs on the pan. Should I look for an alloy pan with nonstick finish? Have a kayak camping trip this weekend and I need to get my order in for something without wasting a bunch of money. Thanks
Well I've had great results with the Sea to Summit Alpha 1.2 liter pot. I bought the kit because I wanted the plastic bowl that comes with it. MSR has a similar ceramic pot that looks good too but the handle might be in the way for storage. Good luck.
Thanks Justin for taking time out your busy schedule to make a comment on my video. My hikes 98% of the time are overnighters less than 5 miles. My latest cook system is completely difference. I now use the msr ceramic 1.3L pot with a small frypan. It lets me take food from my house. July 4th I'm going to the Smokies for a 4 day hike and will convert back to one of the lighter systems to just boil water for dehydrated meals, oatmeal and coffee or hot chocolate. ✌👍
I love your honesty, i think many people plan their gear like they are going on 2-3 month long walk-throughs when they ultimately are just "weekend warriors" like the rest of us..
Sadly alot of people plan their meals on relatively short trips as if they are going on expeditions, they "deny" them self alot of luxury stuff when it comes to food just to save an extra 2-300 grams :)
Greetings from Northern Norway :)
I learned long ago to hike your on hike. Thanks for stopping by. ATB👍
Great video! I believe we all have so many cook setups now days.. one for car camping, solo hiking, one for group hiking. Its crazy how much gear we accumulate.
I usually carry dry foods.. with a toaks 550 for coffee w/brs or my favorite stove MSR Pocket-rocket.Then on those couple trips. I’ll take the GSI 1.1L Halulite boiler with MSR Pocketrocket Deluxe. Carrying the sea to summit pan and collapsable bowl and cups. Either way.. solo hiking or not..it just sometimes feels what your in the mood for and what food your carrying.
Every hike requires some planning about what food and stove to take unless you're a cold soaked. Lol
Senior Hiker 77 lol yeap no cold soaking here ! I wanna cook my food and enjoy it!
Really appreciate your evolution of pots. I have found myself to be going in just the opposite direction. Also glad to hear you talk at some length about "philosophy of use" in regards to you your choices. Wish more people would drill down into those things before posting their videos. Cheers from Montreal QC
Thanks again Jeff for your thoughtful comments.ATB
I’ve been using the MSR Titan kettle and the Snowpeak Gigapower for over 15 years. I’ve been happy with it, and I particularly like the piezo lighter that comes with it.
I wish now that I bought the one with the piezo lighter.
Enjoyed the video and appreciate the tips given. The smaller diameter jet boil canister stand - great to know it will sit flat in a small pot. You're progression to a Giga Power stove for stability is good advice too. The most insightful thing was you admitting to yourself the type of hikes you do means you don't necessariy need thru hiker gear. Impressed with how much you get out. I subscribed!
Thanks Gene, glad you found that video and got that much out of it. I subd back, thanks. 👍
What’s Next??? Going to start bringing a turkey fryer out?? Lol. Good job John!
I'm buying everything it really don't need. I went to REI and tried on a pair of TOPO that you were looking at and could turn my foot sideways and almost walk out them, not for me. Lol
That Mike P hiker sounds like a right nice guy to have around. Really good video SH77.
Thanks again H2BH. always nice to hear from you.👍
I agree with you about bringing food for a few days and not a through hike. Good tips on the video. Enjoyed it. 👍
Thanks Jason for your support. 👍
Nothing wrong with being a weekend hiker. The most I have done in one weekend is the Mt Hood loop rail which I believe is 40 miles or so. Of course I dream of thru hiking but I do not think that is for me. Just want to have fun....not break records.
Preach on brother! 👍
Good information, thanks.
As for the overly large canister stand, I simply reduced its bulk by grinding a bit its feet, so that it fits perfectly into the 750 ml pot.
That's one way to get it to fit a 750 ml pot. 👌
Thanks for sharing your wisdom, it's interesting to hear how your approach has changed over time, each has its own merits, keep trucking!
Welcome aboard Joe. Thanks for a thoughtful comment. ATB
Great video. For me the Toaks 750 is the perfect fit-I can boil enough water for meals and use it as a coffee mug without bringing another cup.
I've enjoy my 750 for many years.
Very good points. Most of us are not thru hiking and can greatly improve the camping and eating portion of our experience with just a little more weight.
I appreciate you stopping by and taking time to comment.👌👍
@@SeniorHiker77 we appreciate you. Thank you very much for sharing your experience and thoughts.
Another great review, John! We have the old faithful that we’ve used for years. So true...no through hikes for us, either! We were in denial for years🤣Lisa
Thanks Lisa.
Good info on the little stoves and cook pot set ups. I'm not a through hiker either. I like the shorter hikes and camping. 👍
Yep, you not all wiped out when you get to a short hike campsite.👍
Ive only ever had the BRS, sometimes I think about upgrading but ultimately have had no complaints
No complaints don't change.
Thanks for the tips.. I need to get a stove for BikePacking trips.. keep up the Great Videos..
Ok Billy will do.
Billy's Bikes & Brews use the Toaks 750. ToaksTi stove or Pocket Rocket and other stuff all packed into the pot. I have the 450 cup too, but at Toaks prices , cost isn’t really a consideration. The 900 isn’t too expensive if you’re sharing catering on your hikes. Oh, the Fire Maple Ti stove is good kit too..
This is a very helpful comparison video about cook sets pots and cook cups and stoves so thank you
You welcome Calvin i did that one awhile ago. Thanks for the comment.
I am not a hiker at all, but enjoy motorcycle camping. Since I only buy light weight gear, I am interested in putting things together for the space I have. Granted, I know I overdo it by backpacking standards but I have room on my motorcycle for a larger tent, a campcot, mattress, and camp quilt. I will bear in mind your suggestions when I decide to give up my Jetboil. Thanks for a very informative video.
Check out Big Agnes for tents get at least a 2 person. Thanks for stopping by. 👌✌
Nice kits. I agree with your thinking, for shorter trips you can increase your comfort.
I’ve put together a 750ml pot kit with the BRS stove and was able to add a collapsible silicone cup. The burner fits inside the cup.
I'm now using a Soto ST-310 for the summer because it uses pure butane.
Used the toaks 750 pot last winter in -5 C, in a forested area with no wind.
I don't buy a lot of this freeze dried stuff as i like bringing ingredients and cook.
I'd say the pot "works" for this but it will overflow and the lid won't fit on top, this was with some boat potatoes, kidney beans, red paprika, frozen vegetables and minced pork.
But it can be done!, but one pot of food won't be enough in those conditions so you gotta cook at least a second time i think.
I still use my 750 ml setup especially on longer hikes. On my overnights I like cooking things from home so use another setup that includes a small frying pan. Thanks for taking a few minutes out you busy schedule to make a great comment.
Yep, buy/take the gear that fits your hike. 👍
Absolutely, but it took 2 years to get out the thru-hiker mode. Lol
@@SeniorHiker77 I see 😂 I was lucky, started with a 3 lb coffee can and a steel fry pan heating over a fire. Worked great. So did the 8x8 plastic tarp for a tent. Everything from there was a move up...until it wasn't. Now I'm almost back to the beginning and it only took me 50 years. But I'm much happier with the lighter weight.
A pan is something I need to work into my kit...so many food options with that. Nice progression... 👍
Thanks Kriz, many options with a fry pan.
Do you not want bail handles on your pots? For campfire cooking or water collection simplicity. Loved your explanation of the changes you made over the years, it makes total sense. Thanks for the help with my hiking set up, always trying to learn from the experienced in all aspects of life. Stay well.
At one time I was thinking about bail handles but never cook in the fire. My brother-in-law is more of a bushcraft person and he has cooked directly on the coals but not for me. Thanks for taking time to make a comment.
@@SeniorHiker77 You are welcome. You have this down to a fine art. Take care.
Good information there. I’m putting together some titanium cook sets. Totals 1100 is one of them. Going to be doing some outdoor cooking and product testing soon. Great vid.
I'm waiting to see what you do. ATB
Very helpful video. Thanks for taking the time to put it together. Do you know if the toaks 750 pot will fit into a GSI glacier?
Had to look up GSI Glacier . No I don't know if it will fix. Thanks for stopping by and naming a comment. ATB
Great look at really functional setups.
Thanks Byron glad to see you still around. 👍
I am in the same boat and I like to enjoy my food. I would like to do some thru-hiking but it is hard with the kids being little. My daughter gets pretty upset after I'm gone one night lol.
My wife enjoys her nights when I'm away. Hmmmm..
@@SeniorHiker77 yeah I don't think my wife mind's just the daughter does lol.
Thanks you! I wanted to know if the Toaks 1100ml would fit the larger canister as well as a BRS stove and lighter...thanks for the video!
You're welcome glad I could help.👌
Great cook sets... I only have two sets (stainless) with some cheep stoves and one alcohol stove... Did not get to use them but a few time this year so far... 🙁
I have a Walmart stainless steel cook set and alcohol stove in my doomsday setup. Lol
LOL.... If doomsday arrives all you and I have to do is find a good source of alcohol and food and we are good to go... LOL
Nice sharing and tips. I do like buying stuffs like u did and i was impressed with your choices as well👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Lucky that i owned jetboil canister support and it fits my 750ml just like u said.
Thanks for your input. ARB
Do you think you might go with a tiny wood stove like Mike P hiker?
Free fuel appeals to me and before ‘going tiny’ I used to ask landowners for permission to turf a ‘leave no trace’ fire to cook on - no stove or fuel was the sexy lightweight option back then!
(...I remember that you took a tin of soup or fruit cocktail for the first day and that was your ‘pan’ for the week too!)
I do have 2 small titanium wood stoves and use them from time to time. I find them fun and wanted to develop a new skill like MikeP but found them to be to much work. MikeP like a little bushcraft and I don't but I do watch everything he does because he is always experimenting with something. Lol
This is my favorite stove... I like ut tests of the pots. But a to much compact gas burner make a to intensive and concentrate spot of heat... My Gas burner spread the heat some.
www.primusshop.no/produkt/primus-easyfuel-ii-gassbrenner/
Your right I don't like the pocket rocket for that exact reason. Heat is to concentrated.
Hello Senior 77, can you do a current cook kit video including skillet?
Yes I will sometime in the future.
Nice sharing my friend.. Stay connected👏
Certainly will stay connected.
You have many camping 🏕 stove my uncle right? You are real hiking monster 👹 wow !
Thanks 민 트.
The BRS barely boils water
Wow I can't believe that. You must be trying to boil a big container of water.
@@SeniorHiker77 600 mils, yea I need power, going to go back to my old Caption Stag, @ 9 grams it has a regulator that goes full open. Made in Japan. I did pick up the Evernew 1000 mil Pasta Kettle and the 400 cup, its only me and two smaller humans, Im the coffee drinker. good vids
Very useful video! Basically what I wanted to see compared, but I just have a question. I'm wondering if the MSR Titan Kettle will fit the 227g (medium) sized canisters inside?
Thanks!
OK Mr. Chan my brother-in-law says yes it will fit. I'm at work but will double check tonight.
This is all really good, pal! Thanks a lot for sharing, it is indeed very personal for preferences uses etc. So it's really important to show the history of how one gets there :) I didn't understand the canister support though, you showed it seemingly flat at the bottom of the 750 (our right) then opened and shut then said it would only fit on its side, maybe it looked flat but not in actuality? The msr kettle I've looked into but I've gone right off it finding California (msr is based there) has a something law 95 I forget what it is but basically warning of harmful products which may cause the likes of cancer and such. I really hope I'm wrong but I'm right off it anyway, looks awesome. If I remember right, the toaks/lixada 750 is lighter anyway, I don't know. Those stoves of yours are bloody small, very impressive! I'm casually looking for something smaller and lighter but comfortable with the self igniting five pound Amazon generic stove, it's been way more reliable than the robens firemidge which seems a knock off from the brs, mines absolutely useless. I should really try the brs, everyone's talking positively about it and I know just how small it is. Also, what may I ask is your accent, where from? I'm British, not used to American accents so curious :)
Very good information and accent is from Charleston SC it's called Geechee. Lol
Amazing kits
Thanks for the comment esanhand 👍
Really informative relaxed sense making video, thanks.
Thank you so much for taking time out your busy schedule to make a comment on my video.✌🤞
@@SeniorHiker77 i have all the time in the world nowadays as corona made me lose my job. But i now enjoy videos like yours.
I have a BRS stove that is several years old. Works great but sometimes I just take my commercially made fancee feast alcohol stove. Whatever it takes...just get out there.
I like your thinking whatever it take just get out there. ATB
I wouldnt mind adding an 8" pan to my kit. The ability to cook more versatile meals outweights (pun intended) the small bit of extra weight. Thanks for the video.
I came to that conclusion when I realized I wasn't a thru-hiker so adding a fry pan was a no brainers. Lol
@@SeniorHiker77 I'm looking at fry pan options. I'll use on a titanium wood stove and small gas stove. Should I go with a steel, titanium, or aluminum pan? The msr alpine is steel with aluminum backing. Some say it heats more evenly. I'm concerned about ease of cleaning too, I've been known to scorch some eggs on the pan. Should I look for an alloy pan with nonstick finish? Have a kayak camping trip this weekend and I need to get my order in for something without wasting a bunch of money. Thanks
If you on overnighters it's a great addition to your cook kit. ATB
Well I've had great results with the Sea to Summit Alpha 1.2 liter pot. I bought the kit because I wanted the plastic bowl that comes with it. MSR has a similar ceramic pot that looks good too but the handle might be in the way for storage. Good luck.
My Sea to Summit 8" works for me and sometimes I use the GSI Bugaboo 8" frypan works well just a little more weight.
great review, does the handles get hot buddy cheers
Of course they will get 🔥 be carful. Thanks for stopping by Jason. ATB
@@SeniorHiker77 cheers bud, a just herd titanium does not get hot , thanx buddy
Really enjoy your videos
Really thanks a lot William Clark.👌
Thanks for the review
Danke! Lieben Gruss aus Norddeuschland von Mia & Matthias
Thanks for you comment will translate later. ATB
Awesome
Wonderful review! Great functional cook kits for hikers!!! I enjoyed so much till the end:) 💙♫♪♩👍75/S
Thank you so much MMS.❤
Great review! Can you roast a turkey in that pan??? 😉 🦃 Thanks John!
No Turkey but usually on Thanksgiving I bring a frozen TV dinner (that's frozen food for your generation). Lol
Just admit it, you are like me. I love buying gear.
I can't believe what I bought this weekend at a campsite. Got to go to campsites that don't have cell service. Lol
Nice review, I can just see that pan hanging from your pack
Actually I keep it inside my pack. Lol
Muito bom.
a lot of sense spoken here ...
peace
Thanks mate.✌
Is it just me or are the all the same setup - who the hell is he cooking for with that pan a scout troupe
Thanks Justin for taking time out your busy schedule to make a comment on my video. My hikes 98% of the time are overnighters less than 5 miles. My latest cook system is completely difference. I now use the msr ceramic 1.3L pot with a small frypan. It lets me take food from my house. July 4th I'm going to the Smokies for a 4 day hike and will convert back to one of the lighter systems to just boil water for dehydrated meals, oatmeal and coffee or hot chocolate. ✌👍