Retevis Ailunce HD1 GPS dual band 2m 70cm DMR walkie talkie review and teardown.
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2018
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I know this is an oldie video but I have been using the HD1 for a while now and it’s one of the BEST portable radios I have ever used. Everyone talks about the build quality and how excellent it is and they are all spot on. If someone were to hand me an HD1 with a Motorola logo on it, I would have 100 percent believed it was their radio. It’s solid, good weight and looks professional and not chintzy like most ham radios. I’m looking forward to Ailunces next generation of this unit.
Thanks the first real Test that i found on the Internet.
Good job :)
Well if anyone says these reviews don't work you can give them this......I am going to buy one of these and only because I saw this on your channel and then looked further......to be honest I don't even need one, but what the heck, it will be handy to have and is cheap.
Thank you for this thorough review. I'm new to the amateur radio scene. I got a Baofeng last week, my coworker saw it, and told me to get a better one. He recommended this one, and showed me his. Mine should be delivered tomorrow. I'm excited to get it.
well I was on the fence, a dstar or fusion radio because of the quality and this just sold me, it looks like its built like a tank, no dodgy work inside, all gasketed, alloy body and 1/2 the price of the competition
Props to you! This is the only good review video on this that I've actually found helpful
Interesting little radio Mike. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for this detailed tear-down! Much appreciated. Still not sure which of these radios to consider but now I know a lot more about this model.
RE: the "hidden" broadcast FM feature... Broadcast FM radio functionality is not only of interest to people who might want to pass the time listening to music on the jobsite or whatever... consider the potential usefulness of tuning in to a broadcast radio station for updates in a variety of emergency situations. There are better options if you're looking for weather information but in a disaster situation... you might not have another way of easily finding out what the official version of events is.
Good review Mike. You might want to do an update since Retivis / Ailunce has come up with an update in their firmware that doubles the 100,000 to 200,000 without a trip to the service bench. This is clearly a good company that continues to provide support for their products AFTER sales. 73
nice review !!! I'm not into the HD-1 but now after seeing this video ... I'm thinking about getting one now :)
I agree with you on how nice that radio looks. If and when I can I may get one for myself since most of the other DMR hand helds out there are a little more complicated than that one seems to be.
I just bought an Ailunce HD1. Great video !
Talking about using direct conversion only in small hand held radios, FYI, TYT makes the MD380, a DMR HT with a superheterodyne receiver. It comes in either VHF or UHF. They also make a waterproof version , the MD-390. Very tough little radios.
By far the best review on UA-cam for this radio! You did however make a few mistakes as you said 443mhz was vhf and 145 was UHF when it is obviously the other way around:). Also encryption is still not allowed on the UK and US ham radio licences but Ailunce probably copied the features of radios of the likes of the md390 which were designed for commercial use. Thanks for the great review and keep up the good work! 73 from M0JKE
Good evaluation - well done. I am seriously considering one.
Mike, great video. Nice to see a proper teardown too of the HD1. BTW, the mic connector at the side is compatible with some Motorola speaker mics. Also there is a couple of very active and technical forums on Facebook dedicated just to the HD1, loasd of info and schematics, etc. Good work! 73, EI8EJB
Like all your videos Mike, this one was a special treat. I've been using one of these, for a while and love it. Connector is same as Motorola GP328 plus.
Yes, but now there is the adapter to change the Connector Motorola GP328 plus to Motorola 2 pin!
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Wow. Another great review mike. Thank you.
Hay Mike Great Revue the best way for testing would be to get a speaker mic for it and bypass the ptt connections and put a time switch in its place, love watching your videos, Mike Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks Alot I plan on buying a few For my Church I do security and we do Alot of traveling around so this would be the perfect radio for communication on and off campus 👍
Thank you! Good job!! Great job!
Since you can program in the business portion, you can use encrypt.
Actually have a set of the owl walkie talkies and my kids love them. They run on frs 500mw, 467.5625 dcs is 306. They have pretty good range even thru houses which uhf is good for building penetration. Id recommend them for kids and I also have the HD1 and love it. The feel reminds me of the old Motorola Saber portables that Pennsylvania State Police here carried. Also there is a debate on the antenna impedance, Ive seen specs of 80ohms and also 50ohms.
Is there any plan to add a CC, TG, TS, Radio ID scan 4 Penny transmission being received on VFO ?
The biggest problem I am having is I cannot find a DMR radio that when put into promiscuous mode, will receive any DMR transmission and lock on to it, and decode it, and display the color code, the talk group ID, the time slot in use, and the Radio ID so that I can copy down the information to then add the channel into a memory slot on the radio.
My WS1080 scanner does some of this and my uniden 996 P2 with the DMR upgrade does some of this but not very well
I know I can program in 16 different memory channels with a different color code for each channel for the same frequency and scan but there has to be a way for the company to add this feature into the radios firmware
Even if it means creating a special Bank where you would enter in a frequency and the radio went in essence do exactly the same thing and create 16 temporary virtual channels that it would scan a different color code for each one of those channels and then display the one being used for the current transmission along with the time slot and the talk group ID and the radio ID in use at that moment
As DMR is becoming more widely used we have multiple agencies and companies using the same frequency and using different color codes and talk group ID combinations as well as time slots to create separate "channels" for each user.
At the moment I have a frequency that is only supposed to have one user on it using color code 3 talk group 2 time slot 1 and I have two other users using that same color code and different talk groups that I cannot identify as well as 12 other users using some other color codes and other talk groups and time slots and I cannot even begin to figure out what they are using because I can't find radio that can scan and display this information so that I could program in the settings to be able to know when they are transmitting and record them to try and figure out who they are.
If anyone knows of a radio that can do this please let me know.
The WS 1080 is the best I've found so far but still is not that good without having some of the information programmed in
I'm not sure why it's so difficult for radio to be able to decode this information but it must be very difficult because no one's been able to make a radio to do it yet and this looks to be the best candidate to try and get the manufacturer to update the firmware to have this capability
I've got some screen issues and I want to reseat the display flex cables. I've taken the 6 screws out from the back, but am unsure of how to remove the metal plate from the front of the radio. Can you give me any tips? Does accessing the display flex cables require the de-soldering of the antenna mount?
Hi Mike nice review and teardown (first time I have seen that in a handheld radio review) the Retevis and TYT radios are very good I have the MD380 UHF DMR badged TYT and both the Retevis RT2 and TYT DFUV10 Dual band DPMR digital PMR radios which are great, another interesting little DPMR UHF only radio I have from China is the realy small Recent RS309D 3w radio 400-470MHz PC programable also in a less featured option the RS308D but like most Dpmr radios made in China they have a specific vocoder so they only talk to each other in digital mode or a few other brands, even with the restricted power and strange vocoder choice they are great for standard analog PMR due to the restricted power setting in the program software and amateur use with all the repeater settings available when programing also a fantastic whisper mode which realy works well, cheap as chips feel great in the hand built very well and receive and transmit better than my old FT51r on 70cm, I have seen a lot of these little radios being sold into mainland Europe and I would think they are being used as PMR radios as they have public PMR repeaters over there.
your a genius how long have u being a tech sir i used to fix cb radios but i gave it up to many tinkeres you know .nice vids
About to buy 2 of these mainly to communicate between my wife and myself. Then for fun as a second option. Not to many talk about range on these units. I live in Federal Way Washington along the I5 corridor . I know they aren't basic radios but we are tech savvy. Are they a good option for us?
Can you tell us more about the build in AMBE+ Chip set. The Question came from a compare between Software Encoder vs. AMBE+ Chip set Encoder. In my ear sound the Softwaresolution of the DMR Encoder not so clear then the AMBE+ Chip set for example the Clipping Sound from a Retevis to a Hytera make not fun because this to understand is heavy for my ears. Tell us more about the ABS Plastic Mold that will be in the Galvanic to make the GND shield. I think this is cheap and not a good shield - or!?
Hello
You Sir are a technically knowledgeable person, so I have a small question for your.
I will use this radio 10-12h a day, 5 days a week.
What is better for the lifespan of an lcd backlight; to be always turned on, or for it to turn on and off all the time?
Thank you
no you can't encrypt messages on the ham bands even if your radio allows it ( dmr is/was business orientated and they are allowed to)
I didn't think so. Was beginning to wonder if I missed a rule change.
In the United States - some counties rules are different.
Just as it's possible to use these radios on FRS/GMRS frequencies, it's not permissible to do so (too much Tx power/inappropriate antennae)... same thing with encryption.
@@mikesradiorepair - If you cross reference the FCC ID number it will probably certified for Part 90 service in the U.S. Encryption isn't allowed on the amateur radio bands but, can be used for business use, etc. You're holding a commercial radio instead of one designed specifically for amateur radios use, that's why it has built in encryption.
The FCC ID number, 2AAR8AILUNCEHD1, is apparently fake. Without it, this radio would be illegal to sell or use in the US. So, encryption or not, this might not be legal anyway. fccid.io/blog/2018/10/31/fcc-id-2aar8ailuncehd1-ailunce-hd1/
Had one but it would not allow me to program a 462 dcs code and the back light would not stay set to my 10 seconds setting it always goes back to always on
Yes it's a real nice ready I just got mine's a couple days ago I like it is do you know it's real programmable by the keypad I really like it I'm still learning how to do you know worth it
Question, I have two HD1s and the one I bought used from a private seller needs service, Can you look at it or can you recommend were I can send it for diagnosis and repair?
I have heard the antenna connector is not 50ohm an how could you fix that with a tear down change resistors or ?
You don't need something mechanical the key he tansmitter, you have a press to talk connection on your mic input. Make a timer to trigger that.
Thank you for your video! The little battery you mentioned at 24:17 - what exactly does this do, and will the radio still function after this battery has expired ?
Probably just there to keep time going while you swap out main batteries. I would expect it to live as long as the service life if the entire radio is.
When a company wants you to do a review do you get to keep it ? On anything they send you ? I have wish I could do a review. I hope you will see my comment, your the first one I heard of doing reviews.
Can anyone help me with a problem with my HD1 the battery percentage indicator is stuck at 100% on one hand held but on the other hand held when I swap batteries it shows the accurate percentage how can I resolve this I've swapped it between 4 batteries does the same thing and I even updated the firmware to 1.54. And if it means anything I have the GPS model
I checked the FCC database and this radio's FCC cert is current and active as a part 90 radio.
Hi guys , when I sit my HD1 in it’s base which is switched on to charge I get serious interference which cuts off signal , I haven’t tested DMR only FM , the moment I switch off power to base charger the interference stops , is this normal ? Thanks guys
What's the 12dB SINAD signal level. Measuring the signal that opens the squelch is not measuring the sensitivity .
Humm, haven't heard those terms used in a while. Quieting would also do, but I like sinad.. These radios all have a common thread. This one reminds me of the Alinco with a slight few differences. Seems like a bluetooth version might be able to do Analog APRS ? But, no one wants to talk about that.
The single band MD-380 DMR handheld has a superheterodyne receiver. My guess is that it might be a bit more expensive for the dual band radios. However, size has nothing whatsoever to do with it, as far as I know.
Miss your videos man.
There is no AMBE chip anywhere? So done in software?
maybe they got better as I got 2 from the first batch and hooked the hand mic and now both radios are in need of repair ugg
Do you think it’d be too much of a pain to get a Motorola speaker mic or headset lead to work on this radio? Can’t find information on the pin connection and thread pitch for either of them through google. Any suggestions appreciated.
There are RSMs available on the retevis site, even a Moto APX XE mic clone with IP67 rating.
Hey man, I actually have an HD1 I use for scanning police and stuff, and I have two other radios as well, and every one makes a popping noise when going down the road listening to local law enforcement , and I wasn’t sure if this was normal or not. If I’m sitting still it sounds clear and normal. Any thoughts?
Almost sounds like might have a loose ground in engine compartment --- if you notice this noise on vehicle radio when driving, might be the culprit. I encountered this noise when had a loose (only 1) spark plug. Noise quit after re-installing the spark plug. Hope is helpful.
What is a quality railroad listing radio ?
viste de cuantas capas tiene el PCB
he say he is buying lunch for everybody lol
10.2 dbm = more than ten watts?
Mine shows up in the mail today [:
Price of it.....any online link of it
THAT IS ONE REALLY GOOD RADIO, IF I DO SAY SO MYSELF...WHY???? BECAUSE I OWN TWO OF THEM BAD BOYS.....HAD THEM THEY POPPED UP ON YOU TUBE.. THEY ARE GREAT.....HAVE A GREAT DAY FROM N3NDX....02-03-2020.....
I think it also with transmit out of band - which of course is also a no no
146.475 is UHF? and 443.100 is VHF? Does that mean 900 Mhz is Low band?
Have always gotten them backwards. Been doing that since I was a kid. Something about U comes before V in the alphabet I guess.
Will CHIRP program this radio or is it too new?
CHIRP dont support program this radio.
Did you test for spurious emissions? Some of the Chinese handhelds are notorious for exceeding the limits prescribed by FCC 97.307(e).
2nd harmonic is 52db down on 70cm and 53db down on 2m.
Hmmm...You were getting something like 39 dBm on 2m? 39 dBm minus 53 dB is -14 dBm. FCC 97.307(e) specifies that spurious emissions can't be greater than 25uW which is about -16 dBm. Or, is my math wonky.
Nope, math looks correct. It's close but the quick test I did showed it slightly above the limit.
got damit, I have to learn this too ?? ffs (banging head on keyboard)....
So no good due to spurious???
The Chinese company's are notorious for providing "samples" of their goods that are in spec and sometimes built especially for "sample " testing.
Now I am not saying this is the case here, but be informed. I have seen too many times that Chinese manufacturing loves the old bait and switch game.
Meaning cheaper components and as many shortcuts in production runs that are good enough to fool just about anyone.
As far as your video review....good review.
Bigot, how do you mass produce hundreds of thousands of radios switching out parts randomly. Doesn't make any sense at all.
Bulldog Brower fair point
What benefits does GPS give you with an HT?
Your location information.
It can send your GPS location to other radios as you transmit. And read GPS information from other radios that are sending their location.
21:31 It's not really hard to put a superhet circuit inside a handheld radio. All the good brands manage to do it. Motorola, Hytera, Icom, Kenwood. Even the TYT MD-380 which is a cheap chinese DMR radio.
Try find a dual band handheld super het. Single band sure, but not dual
@@brianjensen5200 APX7000. And that even has VHF, UHF and 700/800 MHz.
@@radiosification not exactly comparable is it....
@@brianjensen5200 well if they can put a superhet single band in an md380 why can't they just put two of them (one for each band) into a radio? Even if it's double the cost of the md380 that'd still be reasonable
@@radiosification and yet no-one does in any of the reasonably priced radios. Must be a reason as they would sell like hotcakes
Better HD1 or Radioddity gd77?
GD-77 with open GD-77 software is easier. I have both.
Also GD-77 is dual band.
Encryption?
Standard or proprietary?
From what I have heard on other reviews it's proprietary. They mentioned that it would not work with any other brand except another aliunce.
did they cheep out on the charger?
Enjoyed your video greatly, just purchased one very encouraging VK6NJP
Hardware reviews are great, but I have never seen a software review. There are two major problems I have seen with software. First of all, very few software engineers for manufacturers seem to be radio savvy. Case in point: Admit Criteria is actually BCLO (busy channel lock out) DUH. There are other issues too, just too many to talk about. Here is a big one: the fact that the scan banks are programmed on a per channel basis and not per zone. This is ridiculous. Every other radio I have ever owned scans on a per bank, or ZONE basis. I do not know if it is a limitation of the firmware and/or software, but that has to change. It requires me to duplicate channels numerous times and attach different scan lists to each one. Pretty silly. I'm sure I am not the only one that travels quite a bit and needs to scan on a geographic basis, in other words, scan the channels that are active in the area I am presently in. To me, this is the largest headache about programming these radios.
My other issue with software is that I have not seen any video, documentation, or ANYTHING going into detail about what all the features do on a DMR radio. I have had to figure them out on my own and there are still options I do not understand. The manufacturers have dropped the ball here. This is a very large problem: not understanding all the programming features. I just think it is a sad situation.
On the comment about privacy, or SCRAMBLING, yes you CANNOT do that on amateur frequencies, but you can on itinerate (unlicensed) channels. REMEMBER it is a wide band radio covering many different radio services. I see this come up on many other reviews. Everyone reviewing a radio should do their homework BEFORE doing a review. Also the proper terminology about the technical aspects and what things are called would be a good start. It is a reflection of what you really know, or rather, what you don't know.
I thought your review was quite long and should have been edited to size it down, but overall, the best I've seen yet. I would have liked to see you disassemble the radio and then put it back together though.
Can this radio receive p-25
No it cannot.
21:54 -- I thought the radio blew up... my jaw dropped. Didnt even show the breakdown, just pure explosion of parts LMAO OMG......
I have a Baofeng UV-5R+ and hate a few things about it. Its hard to program manually as you cant step to the channel you want to program, makes it a pain in the ass.
I would love to click and go to Channel 7 (for example) then program my frequency to that channel 7.
UV-5R+ I get lost all the time specially if I want to put a new frequency. (its hard to explain what I am trying to convey). Its a cute radio, specially for people who are just starting out in HAM.
the radio is just a real pain in the ass to do anything with and people are seriously forced to buy a cable to computer program the frequency with CHiRP.
If you needed to do a quick few channel frequency changes on field, you would be seriously screwed because you will get lost really quick and even lose some frequency at the same time.
omg its just so exhausting to operate
Retevis website kind of sucks. Cant move past cart or payment
Looks like a moto xpr connector
Is this radio digital only?
No, analog and digital.
@@mikesradiorepair I have been looking at the Yaesu VX-6R but is this a better option?
@@Jakelol1980 Sorry, don't know. I don't have one to compare it with the HD1.
@@mikesradiorepair Its also dual band but its analog only.
Do all the testing battery testing rase😂
Best DMR/Analog portable I have owned. The ONLY one that you do not need to create a separate scan bank for each channel. It actually scans by ZONE, which the others don't get yet. I was even able to move my 600+ channels from my TYT to it without reprogramming because they are all basically spreadsheet programming. So until something better comes along, this is it till then.
When will the Chingbao 148 GTL's go on sale?
It's a joke. :)
MikesRadioRepair can I use this radio as a police scanner and how do I program it
I just watch the entire video & you are confused about what is VHF and what is UHF Big Time?
I always do the same thing with VLF and ULF. I always seem to get them backwards in my head for some reason.
MikesRadioRepair VHF & UHF as well it appears.LOL
unfortunately you missed a big problem these radios have which is the rf amplifier stage is not designed for 50 ohms, the antenna they come with match the radio but I think from memory they are designed around 30 ohms
Seems everyone missed this...!! no other replies... quite extraordinary.
People, it can make it impossible to use an external antenna... the only way it seems to get Aliunce to do something is for people to highlight this and get them to send out a hardware update fix, it needs a small balun which can screw onto the SMA output connector for ext use, so before you buy, ask them if you can use an external, see what they say.... their answer is only use low power... great..!!!
The HD1 has major issues. After 6 months of use and I'm not the only one it has a white screen of death. I checked the ribbon cables as they say on the company site and I've check the firmware version trying many different. Dealing with the company or the seller is ridiculous 😡.don't buy it unless you want to send it back to China to receive the same faulty parts I've wasted hours and I've given up.
Looks like a Motorola xpr 7550
dude, get to the review of this radio...holy cow.
Interesting but cannot stay and get some shuteye.
Sitting at your bench and using your thumb nail as a screwdriver....You have my vote...
Dmr is bad for military specs, is very prone to malfunction. Digital technology could fail at any moment
The military has been using digital for decades. I was using frequency hopping encryption radio systems in the Army in the late 1980's.
MikesRadioRepair That doesnt mean it is reliable in a emergency Situation, okay go with dmr but prepare to be attacked from its vulnerabilities. Even analog systems nowadays use microelectronics and are susceptible to malfunction. Microelectronics will be useless in a future warfare, Einstein said something about it.
ROFL. The last thing I'm worried about is "future warfare". I'm a few minutes away from the tunnel (site R). If a nuclear war happens I'm dust and there's nothing I can do about it. Having a working radio isn't going to do my charcoaled body any good.
A lot of the cheap Chinese junk still has manuals that I'm almost positive is English translated to French translated to Russian translated to Mandarin translated back to English again.
3 года Ailunce HD1 GPS. За 3 года, к 2022 году более новое на базе этой радиостанции что-то появилось в продаже?