"Ethan Chapin's Golf Clubs Were NEVER RETURNED in the Idaho Four Case!"
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Ethan Chapin's Golf Clubs Were NEVER RETURNED in the Idaho Four Case!
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One of my many thoughts is that if Dylan could hear talking, how did she not hear Kaylee and Xana fighting back for their lives??
Because neither Dylan or Bethany were in the home when these crimes occurred.
I've never trusted DM. She gives me serious bad vibes.
@@thomasoaxaca3379I agree…
@@teresa8793me too!
@@thomasoaxaca3379 you don't know that
K&m never made those calls! They were jumped when getting out of car at home ! Imo they were not killed in bed
I agree💯! IMO either jumped there, or dropped off at the fire hydrant & jumped along Taylor, where Maddie’s jacket was found, and LE sitting in cop car… either way, I call BS on Aliveas’ story
How do you explain all the blood in that house then???
@@teresa8793what blood we never seen any blood? The only blood we seen was coming down the side of the house outside.
Agree 💯
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Not sure what creator but I heard that a pump stayer was used . Crazy I know ! But what isn’t with this case ?
Golf clubs were used in the murders. I always thought that 😢
But was the Door Dash really food or something else being delivered??? It has happened before and through drive-thrus 😮
would be interesting to see what the gratuity was
I don’t think x ordered
@@val821asis Didn't the PCA state she "received" an order? Not placed an order?
@@woodfairy7051 I really don’t know there has been so many conflicting reports. At this point I’m unsure we can trust the PCA given what was admitted in court. Idk? What do u feel happened?
But wait, weren't the golf clubs on the first level empty bedroom?
Those were another person's and returned to family. Stacy Chapin said Ethans Golf Clubs were Never returned
@@1111TrueCrimeapparently from what I heard Ethan’s clubs were inside of his jeep in the back
Everything about Ethan Chapin is Redacted
The blurry photo is the Agricultural Frat Boys known as Alpha Gamma Rho. Center dude on bottom with p o r n stache is Reid U. He has a kabar in his hunting vest pocket.
THIS MAKES SENSE and I will look for the original post
That cowboy dude reminds me of the guys who showed up in the middle of the night in the unmarked van and went inside to plant or remove evidence. Imo
What is they were looking for a computer stick or whatever one records data on these days?
Thanks for bringing up the golf clubs that were not returned because they were a weapon in the crime. I think Xana was welding them when she found someone in her bedroom. If you go back and listen to the “1122 King Rd leaked audio” you can hear Xana say “fuq there’s someone here and Ethan says “Kopacka” then in the faint background you hear a man say twice, “gimmie the stick” - “gimmie the stick”. A “stick” is another term for a golf club. There were definitely used in the altercation. I think it was a defense mechanism for Xana and then it became a weapon used on both Ethan and Xana 😢
*wielding not welding
I remember hearing on Ethan had different injuries,maybe blunt force trauma none of the other victims suffered.
When LE took the golf equipment, I suspected they were the weapon.
@@Mystic.Virgo.Vixen9 that audio was enhanced
Is there a link to this audio? I would love to listen. TIA
@@val821asis GO to Cara Willis. She has NOT altered anything just transcribed the audio.
Check out her most recent and go towards the end of the video. You will hear Bryan Kohberger, Kopacka and that Maddie's pill is wearing off.
Please get back to me after you get out of shock and let me know your thoughts.
She is an honest gal and I trust her.
She's not out for money or fame.
But spend some time and check her out.
Again, Cara Willis
@@maricruze6257But NOT altered m
Also, why was LE asking the public as to the whereabouts of Xana and Ethan for 4-5 hours that night? If Bethany or Dylan were at the same Frat party with them, along with many others.
Excellent Questions
Exactly it makes actually no sense ! Then notice how Bethany magically appears in the story to account for them? Even tho we STILL DONT KNOW what E&X were doing after the party and before
IMO I don't think they said Dylan was at the party. I think they say she was out around town. It's not in front of me, so I don't know the exact words.
We have not been told a thing about DM’s whereabouts any time from Sat morn til Sunday 11:58am when 911 was called.
The picture of everyone dressed up in different outfits (aka Village People pic), makes me think of how the Beatles (the band), did their Abbey Road album cover. Meaning to look at it at first glance you obviously notice things that make you question certain things, like why are they all dressed so vastly different. Why are they pictured within a crosswalk, but you probably just chalk it up as it all being quirky musical expressions or doing random sh*t to make you over think. But then somehow you learn that everything you questioned had a significant meaning. Symbolism. Their clothing all meant something. That's what this pic reminds me of. There's WAY more going on in this pic. Those 3 ghosts reminds me of the interview where Kristy used the word Boogyman to describe the person who committed the unalivings ..Her using that particular word struck very odd too. Like that's not a word I would imagine her using to describe the perp
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That's a brilliant way to describe this case!!! 100%
There are still so many unanswered questions-Kaylee's phone, Ethan's Jeep, Ethan's golf clubs, etc... I can only wish that we will have the answers when all is said and done; however, the sick feeling in my gut, tells me we will never have all the answers. Thanks for all you do, Momma D! DVC Giveaway
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Some people are saying Dylan and Bethany weren’t even in the house when the crimes happened but then why did LE release Dylan’s statements and eye witness account that she was there?
The Golf Clubs went to Oklahoma in the Noah Presgrove case Tony Tiger
In my oppion the room mates that are alive thought it was a argument then come to find that it went too far and they felt bad for Jake D and said they will help him get away with murdering the 4. Ethans mother probably don't want the golf clubs back since they are part of the murder weapons. In my oppion. Ethans mom and dad are not telling all they know in my oppion
❤❤mama d.... that is a golf club with the guy in the hockey jersey because it's Happy Gilmore it's not a hockey stick repeat it's NOT a hockey stick ...HAPPY Gilmore move!!!!!
Some crooked Moscow cop is using them now. The golf clubs.
Ever wondered about Hunter j and his pearl necklace? Go look up what men who wear pearl necklaces actually means..
If you look carefully at the photo that’s in your slides of M,K,E,X, the group picture with all the frat boys, you can figure out who is in the axe group of guys! The guy w/ pink shirt on w/ sunglasses bottom left hand side is the guy in the wheelchair . If u use a magnifying glass you may be able to see the faces etc
If it’s a Halloween photo, which is what it looks like IMHO, then hockey jersey + golf club = Happy Gilmore costume.
👍 agreed
Would love to see photo
Theres the 4 that was possibly in the videoa we seen running
In the begining it was said,the golf clubs were very nice and expensive,and that one of the cops saw them wanted them and has them
yes but am sure that is a rumor because that is highly illegal and would be a Felony due to interfering with an investigation
The LE community has no fear of breaking laws.
@@1111TrueCrime...also stealing!
I’m watching the replay, Mama D
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If something was going on with my man I was jumping in! He was in a 2 on one and a 3 on one. I jumped in both times. On the 3 on one I yelled for my son who luckily in ear shot. I'm not saying this to be bragging. I'm only telling my truth to explain what may have happened with Xana and Ethan. Possibly with Kaylee and Maddie to since they're best friends. The Goncalves talked about how competitive Kaylee was. You just never know how you would react until you're in a situation where you're forced to decide to fight or flight.
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The guy with the golf club looks like Jack M, the hoodie guy
No mam not a halloween pic. Its part of frats doings
I believe you but I want to see where pic originally is posted and a clearer view of it
I don’t feel BK did it. I believe this was indeed a targeted hit by a group of ppl & there are many suspects/theories. Drug related. The death of the young man who rushed with Ethan & supposedly “drowned” in the river edge. So many suspects/theories 😢
I believe their called the assassins....the ones with their faces covered.... allegedly
Why did steve g go to the hospital the same morning of the crime??? Does anyone know what time he went to hospital?
I know this isn’t about Ethan but wanted to know…
Oh and this pic was not Halloween…
Hi 11:11 True crime Family
Probation for frats & sorority was BEFORE the crime.
It's a trophy pitcher on who did what rember there was more people who deceased in that town
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How did no one else in the house hear that?!
Watching Replay
Ty
THATS THEIR WAY OF SAYING WE USED THE GOLF CLUB AND THE AXE TO GET EM.
GET THAT PICTURE SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. IM INTERESTED!!!!
Momma D girl this is Halloween the one kid that has the hockey jersey on and the golf club is dressed up like Happy Gilmore in the Adam Sandler movie ❤
I agree 💯
IMO, the guys with the beige poncho’s, they could be the ones who unalived , Maddie, Kaylee, Xana & Ethan
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What about what Maddie said to Adam?
What did she say?
@traciemcdaniel3660 that's exactly what I would love to find out being that after Kaylee asked Maddie what did she tell Adam. Maddies response waa I told Adam everything. Hoodie guy then told them, they are going to get you for that and how ironic they were unalived after.
@@maricruze6257 Could be anything. There's so many theories out there. One theory that she was pregnant, but got rid of it because she broke up with JD & taking the job in TX. (In which Adam is now working her position) Or that she was going to TX period?
The other theory is she heard about retaliation from the "brotherhood" from prison about Xana's mom and Maddie's step mom.
Who knows? I don't think we ever will unless JS spills the beans
@@traciemcdaniel3660 agreed
29:30 picture is changed and blurred out a lot bubbly has the first one ….adam L is on it and I’m not sure I think J S but they say MG was dating the one in the middle cowboy
It’s probably someone dressed up as Happy Gilmore… hockey jersey with a golf club
I think two Chapin vehicles are still in police possession.
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Thank you Judy!~
I believe the golf clubs were on the first floor, nor Xanas bedroom
The golf clubs that were on the first floor were claimed by LE and returned to the girls family they belongs to. Stacy Chapin, Ethan's mother has stated several time that his golf clubs were NEVER returned. There was more than ONE set of golf clubs.
Why are there no photographs of anyone or anything even remotely related to the Sigma Chi party?
But there are photographs of the Betty's Ball that evening.
I belive ur absolutely right
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I agree on suspects.
Maddie's cell was kept? I knew they kept the golf clubsI Wonder if they are hiding evidence?
In that video where the cop picks up the black jacket Maddie had on and then throws it.He took something out of the pocket.Could of been her phone.
The guy in the hockey shirt with the golf club I think is trying to dress up as the character Happy Gilmore ( it’s an older Adam Sandler comedy)
I AGREE.
Cowboy is Sasquash hunter. Look at his chest
I think it's a pitcher of who did what
Mama D…Fruity Pebbles with marshmallows I’m thoroughly addicted.
Yummy!
I thought the golf clubs was took it to storage the storage truck that came from out of state to take everything and it was mentioned the clubs was in it❤
Sorry, those clubs came from the spare room and were not Ethans but rather one of the girls, Stacy Chapin stated it clear that Ethans were not those and that his clubs have Never been returned.
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Interesting discussion! Hope you're feeling better, we all had that sore throat / cold, too. Each of your segments always discusses something new. My mind just keeps going back to that hoodie guy who told them "we're gonna getcha for this" and the fact they were ignoring him and then running away from him right at that food truck, and the G's stories keep changing, some of those parents had d**g use and d**g trafficking histories, and the two roomies that say they heard and saw things, but never called police and no one called till almost 10 hours later. All completely sus.
Ty I'm healed
IMO: I feel Ethan possibly used/grabbed a golf club to protect him and Xana and that's maybe why they can't give them back to the parents, as there's a couple missing and they could have broken while he was hitting somebody??? And then suspects DNA would be on the golf clubs, maybe?? 🤔
In the beginning I thought Jack D
Hi mamaD. Sherry here on replay
Hi Sherry ty for replay
Driver from the grub truck?
Someone claimed kaylee was dating the guy with no shirt and cowboy hat on.😒😝
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That’s so creepy!! Are you serious
Count Chocula, Frankenberry and Boo Berry.
The three most nutritious cereals every made for the breakfast table.
Thank you General Mills.
Fruity Pebbles is another product for the healthy minded.
All excellent choices!
@@1111TrueCrime When you have grandchildren, what does anyone expect, Grape Nuts??
But I have a problem with Grape Nuts.
There aren't any grapes and there aren't any nuts!@
I’m 56 and still love Cocoa Pebbles!
@PMintPatty ME, too!! You need to have super ice cold milk, I put it in the freezer for a bit, and then after eating all the cereal, you have this ice cold chocolaty milk to drink from the bowl.
Who cares about any manners, but it's so good, especially in the summer when it's hot outside.
You have wonderful taste!
Take care and God bless you.
See you on the cereal aisle!!!
Chapins have the Jeep. And it’s Kaylees phone that still in evidence.
OH that is good they have the Jeep and yes Kaylees phone has not been returned to the family, some suggest it wasn't ever found
@@1111TrueCrimeIMO the golf clubs and Kaylee’s phone could be buried with the remains of the house. Your thoughts?
@@1111TrueCrime the Chapins just took a hiking trip in the jeep ♥️😊 and from what Kaylees parents often say, they still do not have her phone. But sounds like it is in evidence from the way they word it.
That pic with the guys with the capes on with hoods are from the Greek life!
Payne was the leader! Church also! They do horrific evil things like gruesome! I remember seeing a video not long ago it shows horrific guys like that around Ethan…I mean you could clearly see…are we to look the other way? Payne was the leader I believe…scott green the one with the $$$$$…it was a couple of big organizations …lots of LE involved…I believe …all this IMO.
They also used the jeep
I thought it was Kaylees phone never returned, for sure via SG & hid wife.
Either way how have we known that the other 3 had theirs back.
Also what do you mean room 2 about the warehouse
The victims belongings were taken to a building and put in piles marked Room1 Room 2 and so forth according to Kristi G and her daughter was Bedroom #2
Replay.."Get a snack" Great idea!!
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The green flag in the back of the pic i believe is some kind of moose lodge thing.my family is apart of our local moose lodge here and they have things like that hanging up in the common room.and the cowboy in the back is ethan bc I have seen a pic of him wearing that.
Ty for sharing
Maybe ethan and xana geard the ruckus upstairs and he was ciming out the door to check and saw the criminal coming down towards him and he tried to get back in the room and shut the door, but the arkansider managed to push the door open and got him behind the door where he was found and then went after xana. But the other girls shouldve heard the whole thing. Should've been lots of noise going on.
Could this picture be something to do with college haze-ing???
I also do feel like the door dash driver is connected , a possible drug dealer
connection...
Bk source for drugs traded the knife kbar for drugs and the killer or killers had that kbar knife on that night...
In my opinion, this is my theory so far... the other two girls down stairs are poss. connected to the drug dealer, thus waiting 8 hours to report, as they had to get rid of the stash they were selling or buying??? 🤔
This is a picture of Costume Week with the Agricuture Team
I love frosted flakes...sherry
The cowboy in the pic looks a bit like Ethan and he LOVED country music but it could be just some random guy wearing a fake moustache and cowboy hat.
The shirtless guy looks like a unibomber?
Replay crew it's s picture where their all wearing same outfits holding the golf clubs
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Aren't they at that Masonic lodge?
Could be
It was said a golf club was used on Ethan.
Mama D the frats knew that E was there with X IMO they were involved.I can't figure out why they would take out the girls too.. Jojo. S.C.
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I think the golf clubs were used. You theory makes total sense.
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Evidence
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Ty 😊
Also Ethan’s jeep
Omgosh 😮
Imo the 4 guys were FBI or some kind of undercover agents. Something like Texas Rangers..but But not Texas Rangers of course..maybe DEA agents
WHAT???? Where did you hear Kaylee was stabbed over 50 times to her face??
10 to Life and Steve G
@@1111TrueCrimethanks. That I did not know. That is horrifying.
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Ethan is the cwboy and that’s his Indian squaw next to him…and the theee ghosts and the masked guy actually look like they are cosplaying isis fighter and his brides
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Ethan is in the white hat
I remember the Steven Avery case the cops framed him and it wasn't him who murdered Teresa I don't believe he did it he is innocent and he is still in prison😢.
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