BEST Thrusting Sword Guide (in-depth breakdown and review) Elden Ring
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:59 Thrusting Sword Ranges
1:36 Moveset Differences
3:20 Frozen Needle
4:11 Heavy/Fire
5:30 Keen/Lightning
7:05 Quality
7:30 An IMPORTANT Discussion
10:10 Flame/Sacred/Magic
10:30 Cold/Poison/Bleed/Occult
13:10 Summary
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This is hands down one of THE best technical channels we've ever had. In a sea of clickbait peddlers and no-brain meta slaves Chrightt's the dude to keep an eye on.
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It's pretty neat that the Cleanrot Knight Sword is the best offhand thrusting sword, since that's exactly what the Cleanrot Knights use it as. Shame we can't have their full moveset if we equip it with their spear or with the Halo Scythe, but such is life I suppose.
having that guard counter as a replacement for L1 would honestly be a downgrade from the pokes, tho
@@Rakshael That's a fair point.
Can u powerstance their spear and the thrusting sword like they do?
@Beyond Hop3 I'd still rather have both hands attack. The strength of the spear or halb paired with the thrusting sword, is applying pressure at short and close range. It's extremely potent for mindgames, pressure, and forcing rollcatches.
@@tyrlant2189 you can wield one right hand, one left if that's what you mean.
I've been waiting for this for so long
That was a *really* quick comment considering I just clicked publish.
There is a very narrow case-use for the Noble's Estoc: it allows 80 Faith or 80 Int builds to completely eschew their Str/Dex stats by having the lowest stat requirements of all Thrusting Swords. A starting Astrologer needs a single point of Str to use the Noble's Estoc, and the Prophet class doesn't need any points to use it. This means one could run 50 Vigor/40-50 Mind/80 Faith or Int PvP builds at the 150 meta.
This assumes that the rapier is basically an afterthought though; such builds would rely on their spells almost exclusively. Definitely a min-max situation, and those builds would be trading 20-30 AR for basically 4-5 points in other stats. Niche at best.
It also looks baller as all getout
Wish it was better than the estoc considering how hard it is to get
Because of the low weight and requirements, noble's is great for spell-focused builds who want a weapon, especially just for an ash of war. I use it on a faith caster prophet with endure
7 reasons why the Noble's Estoc is the best thrusting sword in the game
Noble’s also gets higher AR on a pure Str build when Cold infused vs Estoc.
Cleanrot is still better though but Nobles is at least lighter with lower reqs.
That's funny, I grabbed the "Ice needle" very early to use it just like a wand! I'm happy that the fact it still has a projectile when fainting was mentioned here. I was surprised when I figured it out for myself.- For those interested, it is pretty easy to get. The boss you need to defeat is a "Revenant" which are deadly weak against healing magic. You just need to procure the finger talisman and your basic heal from the round table, and you don't need to put a single point into faith if you grab the "faith knot crystal" (for your flask of physic) just sitting there in the weeping peninsula. Should be an easy fight, or I just got lucky. Oh and hope you can meet the stat requirements for that rapier!
Feinting*
Youre one of the best guide channel for elden ring my man. I love that you show the MV, the range, the calc number, and pros and cons of all weapons in detailed with real data in a simple and straightforward way. Im kinda tired with all those other channel that spread misinformatiom with "This the best, one of the best, the most broken shit". Its just pain. Kay enough of the rant
Keep up the good work ^^
If he is so good why did he say he wasn't going to go over shields?
@@lordmew5 dunno but I mean shields are pretty straightforward. You want to find the 100 phys with highest guard boost within your endurance investment. As other guard stat like magic, elemental res you just need to look the highest value and hard swap matching your opponents.
And you just know what is the best shield alright. Its a fuckin fingerprint. So yea. And I also recommend eclipse crest for its extra passive thats boost robustness, immunity, and focus. Its kinda help when youre against status build like bloodloss.
I will be covering all the shields together with block and parry info.
@@aureliusba_lethroz what about those of us who are two handing our shields using them as both our weapons and as shields. We don't know our AR backstab bonus or anything else. We don't even know how to power stance our shields.
@@Chrightt again what about those of us who are using shields as our weapons. Is it better to just two hand it or should i have two shields if it is two shields is better to have a great shield and small shield and what hands should they be in. What are the best shields for damage? Do all shields have the same range? Why do some great shields take longer to charge all the way. What is the ar of shields.
Neat trick with Antspur - as long as you don't add an "element", you can use your weapon art + a grease/sorcery/incant to stack up your favorite 3 status effects, as long as one is rot.
Myself I like sleep grease + poison moth antspur - "Omae wa mou shindeiru......"
Doesn't the weapon art buff overwrite the grease?
@@Xandros999 I don't think it does. If I recall, it just makes the weapon get goo-y with poison for just the strike.
Poison weapon on the other hand, I think would override it.
Rogier's Rapier also has one of the highest int scalings in the game with a very solid A(92) at +25 magic. Can be useful to surprise opponents on int builds by using int-scaling weapon arts (glintstone pebble oneshots...)
11:50 That bug on the Antspur Rapier was finally fixed in 1.09
Really excited for the Halberd video whenever you're able to get to it! Great work, it's definitely appreciated!
One of my favorite things about the Antspur is you can put Sepukku on it with poison affinity and when you buff you are inflicting Rot, Bleed, and Poison build up.
I don't like how quickly you lose bleed that way. But it's op for like 2 minutes. Lol
Combine that with an offhand cold Cleanrot, the right hand triple thrust in the power stance Rapier moveset is basically to inflict all three at once. Put Parry on the Cleanrot sword and you can really fuck people up.
Alternatively, you can pick up the Ash of War: Poison Moth Flight from the Night's Cavalry in Caelid and use the Black Whetstone to set the affinity to Blood. Seppuku doesn't show up until the Mountaintops, and setting it to Blood affinity means you don't have to keep casting Seppuku to keep up the blood loss. With something like a Cold Estoc in your offhand, you can shred your way through at least half the game with status effects and anything that boosts rapid strikes.
Thank you for your excellent content! Your videos are clear, concise and methodical. My only issue was on content I know, you are a little bit slow. This is something I appreciate on complicated content. My fix was speeding your video to 1.5x speed to move through things and slow it down when it gets weird.
I'd really like to see more build from you and I love these indepth breakdowns and how you consider other factors rather than just armament dmg
Fantastic work as always! it seems that you always drop a guide just at the moment that i´m working on a build, i was working on a duel build with main hand lance and off hand rapier, but now i know that cleanrot will scale way better with strength and it´s longer, thanks!
Omg, thank you very much for this video. I have been waiting for this for so long. There is no normal guide in the whole youtube like this. I love you so much.
Much love for the support ❤️
@@Chrightt Man, much love for your awesome guides, hope you get millions of subs.
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Presentation is pedantically detailed
Yep I found the right video
Your research and presentation are incredible. Thank you for doing such an incredibly good job.
The cold-infused Antspur is bugged. It loses its inert rot upon being upgraded to +6 as you mentioned. Moreover, the innate rot of the cold Antspur somehow scales up with the weapon upgrade level before +5 (from +0 to +5) up to 100+ cold buildup. One way to exploit it is to dual-wield two +5 cold Antspurs for massive cold procs and fast rot buildup.
This is a long time ago. Looking at this now is it still bugged?
Thanks for the upload, amazing quality content as always.
Hands down, most underrated ER channel on YT. 😌☕️🙏
Thank you, could you breakdown in depth stamina regen? Like what stacks and what doesn't, or if it's even worth stacking different buffs. I used the talisman and the physik a lot but I'm not sure if the physik really does a whole lot on top of the talisman. It'd be nice to see a in-depth breakdown of that.
Good new! Antspur rapier works with cold now, and it’s really good. Great for spamming into Fingerprint users
Always adore seeing these pop up, as someone who loves Video Game Numbers. I'm sure you already have way too much on your plate to consider new video suggestions, but my Christmas wish this year is a video detailing everything I want to know about stance damage in a similar vein to your crit video. Yeah, I know I can spam FotR to stancebreak everything really fast, but I wanna know how all the other options stack up and if there might be a sleeper method buried deep in the digits somewhere to help me realize my dream of a Sekiro-style Deathblow-only playthrough.
I'll look into this alongside my crit video.
I regularly use the Antspur Rapier with the blood infusion and Poisonous Mist ash of war, as it is surprisingly convenient being able to inflict 3 different status effects with a single weapon.
I enjoyed using a Poison Antspur as an offhand for bosses, and then two handing my main after proccing both, it was cool seeing the green glow turn red.
Pay attention guys...THIS is how you make a game tutorial guide! Well done sir, well done. 👏
Great video!
I am excited for whenever you get to the greatsword video, seeing the different movesets objectively compared would be so nice. My assumption is the normal moveset is worse than the cool one.
Waiting for it too. I wonder if my guess on the best pair for Marais is gonna be correct!
Alas, we must be patient.
My main character has been running a dex/int build with power stance cold thrusting swords, rogier's in the main hand and estoc offhand. It's been a lot of fun!
Can you make a vid about the fists/claws? I love to use them.
Great content as always!
Poison is good for the Antspur Rapier, if you give it the Seppuku Ash of War you can inflict Bleed, Poison AND Scarlet Rot when buffed. If they patch the bugged Cold Affinity/Infusion you could run all 4 more standard status ailments at once with two Antspur Rapiers, and let's be real, that would be terrifying to fight.
Death, Madness, and Sleep aren't what I'd call standard due to how few weapons can inflict those. There aren't many Scarlet Rot weapons, but in comparison all three of those combined, it has a ton of them.
On my Sword of Night and Flame/hybrid caster build I started using the Estoc with Flaming Strike and the Flame Art Affinity/Infusion, I have to say that Flaming Strike pairs quite well with thrusting swords due to the slashing attack you get with the follow-up attack that buffs the weapon.
thank you! I really enjoyed the video!
I've spent a lot of time pvping with twin antspurs, on an arcane build, its a blast. Blood infusion reliably procs as the powerstanced thrusting swords hit a lot. Throw blood tax on the main hand and whatever you prefer on the offhand- this is more of a bleed build though, if you prefer to keep it dot based then poison will do the trick.
Just a perfect series, worth paying close attention to.
I like running off poison antspur with main needle for lots of procs. I use the hp regen shield on off hand for long invasions and block pokes and a misericorde main with it as well for sneaky back stabs. It’s a pretty survivable build with high points of damage between power stance rapiers and a stabby dagger that are really rewarding for correct spacing
I can't wait for the colossal sword guide, even if it is just use The Greatsword. I'm curious how the godslayer does as well as the royal.
I've been doing a spell sword playthrough that focuses on feint as well. I've been using the frozen needle and Rogers rapier (off hand) so far, but I'm sure this will change my mind set some.
I’m playing a cleanrot cleric rn and the antsbur with fire infusing and quickstep is pretty awesome so far. I get a bunch of decent damage in and when the rot procs I back off and throw spells. Really fun playstyle
Great content! Gonna try OFFROT
Now it sounds decent! Thanks for another good video.
I noticed that the Rogier's Rapier is usually not that for off the Estoc in most cases for AR and though it a bit weird this was never mentioned
Another thing to mention, the keen (or heavy, quality, std) ant spur is also the only rot inflicting weapon you can apply greases to. When you buff one with rot grease it will proc SR insanely fast. Duel wielding two with the grease is actually just broken when you proc with ghost hits. Also bleed antspurs are broken in the low level PvP scene
So the counterhit amplified damage only works with physical damage? Or did I hear that wrong? I cant find info on this anywhere
Hey Chrightt I wonder how current this data is was there a patch? I think. Love your work am buying your book to support your work.
The weight dimension here is more important after 1.06 due to the light roll. If you want to carry an offhand thrusting sword while both hitting the poise breakpoints and light rolling, rapier’s low weight makes it a really great option.
Frozen Needle carried me hard on my thrusting sword playthrough. It was always my main hand weapon while I interchanged offhands based on the situation/ash of war required.
Antspur is terrifying if made poison and given Seppuku, as then you get three of the seven status effects from a single weapon. Seeing as frostbite can easily be gained from sources such as sorceries and incantations (or even wielding it alongside a Frozen Needle), and since the other three are much more niche and for the most part require you to build specifically for only (one of) them, I'd dare to say that the Antspur is one of if not the best status affliction weapon currently in the game.
So, best power stance for max level? Double ant or double clean rot for range?
You can use Poison Mist + Bleed Infusion on an Antspur Rapier. After you use your weapon art, the weapon gets coated in posion. So you inflict Poison+Bleed+Rot with every attack. (Seppuku+Poison Infusion also works the other way). Also, rapier powerstancing moveset makes you hit with your main hand weapon 3 times very quickly. Use this on your main hand when powerstancing.
Uhh so, is antspur + frozen needle power stance kinda cursed or could it work 😅
I really like the look of them together and i think it's possible to combine in a build and max it out but idk if i should infuse the antspur with frost, fire, bleed or poison or just leave it.
Excellent timing, I was expanding my weapon collection on my Strength character and was wishing you had done Thrusting Swords.
Half hour later, this video arrived! It's not even my birthday!
Hmm, no mention of Poison Antspur with Seppuku though... Or as I call him, "panic attack on a stick" on offhand with main hand Frozen Needle for the projectiles could be funny.
Or, mainhand poison/seppuku Antspur with... Grafted Dragon offhand... Shh, don't tell anyone...
The anstur is probably better in the main hand in that case. The powerstanced moveset on thrusting swords is 1 hit with each weapon on the first L1, but then 3 hits on the mainhand and 0 hits on the offhand on the secnd hit. Since the Antspur has so many status effects on it thats the one you want getting the triple hits probably
@@TheKripox True for basic R1 combos, but the running, jumping, and rolling attacks use both swords properly and having Frozen Needle in your offhand doesn't allow you to use its unique R2. Also it technically has a usable (but mediocre) Ash of War during Seppuku buff, which lasts a good amount of time, during which your L2 button does nothing else.
In reality, the ideal usage is two Antspurs, both of which are Bleed infused. I just like to think about unusual setups sometimes.
tbf offstoc is a leftover name from ds3 and since the estoc is also in elden ring its pretty easy for it to carry over
something interesting about antspur is that below +6, cold seems to increase the rot buildup rather than lower it, as you would expect. my +5 invader has 75 rot on the antspur, according to the menu. if my understanding of status mv is accurate, you'd be dishing out 135 rot with a single dual wield attack; a player in full veteran's would need nearly 40 vigor to avoid being rotted in two L1s 🤢
Oooo that's perfectly for me 🤨
Antspur Rapier with seppuku infused with poison is a fun weapon, the only weapon you can do 3 status types at the same time I believe.
What's the best AoW for a thrusting sword?
Oh golly gosh, i just got mad lucky with suddenly getting 2 Noble Estocs one after the other, so this video is perfect for me
Keep up a good work Sir.
I would like to add that Thunderbolt (which is a great AoW and really popular with offstoc) scales greatly with weapon AR AND dexterity scaling. So a keen estoc with 80 dex has a neat boost to your damage compared to the cleanrot's
Bolt was fun, now every time someone runs away to use it I die inside
Nobles estoc is for casters and has low requirements. Sacred blade ash adds flat 81 holy damage to nobles estoc and stacks on the sacred infusion and holy shrouding tear. And the projectile hits hard, I consider it faith’s moonveil with zero point investment necessary for prophet starting class. The r1s with the buff literally shreds people to ribbons while triple rings finishes them off.
Finally subbed.
I love comboing Rogiers rapier with other rapiers. People don't expect a quick The heavy attack after the end of a chain-attack
I've stopped playing Elden Ring, but I'm still watching your videos!
❤️ You can prep some knowledge for DLC! (Might make some vids for sunbreak too!) Thanks for the support.
noble's estoc is still the drippiest thrusting sword
Drippiest?? What does that mean?
@@jeremygrant1325 best looking
would the cleanrot make sense with a keen affinity? i have a lvl. 168 spellsword with 80 int and 30 dex. i’d like to use scholar’s armament on a thrusting sword, and either chilling mist or glintstone pebble as an AoW. i’m unsure about whether to use cleanrot, or another thrusting sword with better innate dex scaling (e.g. rapier).
for better context i depend on carian slicer in the off-hand as my main damage source. the thrusting sword is my “right-handed off-hand” so i can use ashes of war and switch up attacks.
Yes, Cleanrot on Keen is perfectly fine. The alternative would be Estoc for a bit higher damage and a bit less range.
the term offstoc comes from ds3, in which the estoc was the best offhand weapon for pvp (mostly paired with gotthard's twinsword)
also good video
What outfit is that?
You got anything compairing all the hp and fp you get from different items?
I have all the "bonus stats" given by equipment in my gear compendium on my discord.
First time i hear about offstock, I've never seen anyone use that in duels. It sounds like a great idea though, in fact I did something similar back in DS3. My quality build character used the Profaned Greatsword in the right hand and a straight sword in the left, it was great for doing mixups and catching people off-guard.
offstoc/offrot is actually very often used by more competitive players because of how fast/long it is. If you do a lot of duels, I'm surprised you managed to not see anyone use this yet.
I’d like to see halberds!
Hey Chrightt, I was wondering if you had done any testing with poison moths flight? I looked it up online and in the MV spreadsheet but I cant get a clean answer anywhere. Does the bonus damage when an enemy is poisoned do fixed damage, scale with AR or just scale with a particular stat?
Poison moth flight is mostly % HP based (of enemy). Think of it as consuming poison ticks to expedite it. Poison + poison moth is basically a 2 step process for a bleed proc and a hassle to land. For effectiveness' sake, bleed is better unless you want the poison theme.
@@Chrightt Damn, cheers for that I was hoping it wouldnt be percentage based, was planning a build around mushroom crown+ exutation talismans using dual greatknifes to poison/bleed, then using a high AR weapon to poison moth so i can reset the mushroom buff, but if its fixed damage it'll just sorta be worse bleed.
On a dex build I was thinking of having dual thrusting swords, with the main hand being frozen needle to use the projectiles. Also dual wielding is useful for building status, but what I'm trying to decide is if it would be better to cold infuse the offhand weapon to get that proc faster, or keep it keen for better spear talisman counterhits. Since frostbite increases all damage taken, does the math come out to where offhand frost estoc or keen estoc comes out on top?
It will likely depend on how many hits it takes to proc frost, and your stat spread. I’d try it both ways and see how it works out on average in PvP. If you’re able to proc frost reliably while still having keen on the offhand that’s probably better, but if you aren’t proccing frost consistently I’d put cold on the offhand. Reliably getting the frost proc will outweigh the AR deficit.
@@wbhandy It's gonna be a fairly straightforward dex build. Vagabond RL 90, with 60 vig, 10 mind, 18 end, 15 str, 41 dex (+Millicent's prosthetic and dex crystal tear to get to 56), 9 int, 9 faith, 7 luck.
Yeeesss this is what I wanted
I think dual Cleanrot would make amazing when main is set to Cold and off is set to Fire
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Weirdly, the Zweihander scales pretty well with dexterity provided you don't mind the investment into strength to be able to use the weapon - it seems like a curved greatsword in disguise. It's probably the one colossal sword which prefers the cold estoc. Sounds like a fun build to just be able to go through the game and try out a lot of weapons without doing very many respecs.
It makes sense cause it's the lightest colossal sword and they probably want at least one of them to be a dex option. Its base is both D scaling too, so yeah.
Frankly the best UGS for non STR builds. I run it on my INT and FTH characters too.
1:12 have you tested both mainhand and offhand reaches? Are they actually the same?
All off-hand reach distances are basically mainhand distance reduced by a small off-hand factor.
Antspur with seppuku and poison or occult affinity. Works for me
Hey Chrightt, I find your videos informative to say the least. Will you be doing a greatsword comparison? I’d like to see the length difference between the Claymore, the Knight’s Greatsword and the Banished Knight’s Greatsword. I also don’t mind having some data on the Iron Greatsword as well. Anyway, keep up the great work.
100%. This vid is taking a while but if its the range you want to see, you'll get to see it soon with a bonus range video.
@@Chrightt Awesome! I can’t wait.
You should put together a lightning dex build.
If you don't mind pulling back the curtain a bit, do you mind sharing a rough order of the remaining weapon types you have planned for making videos? Eagerly awaiting your showcase of the Greataxes and Great Hammers, lesser used pvp weapons for sure.
I don't have all of them down, but in between a few other videos the rough weapon breakdown order in line would be:
1. Halberd
2. Hammer or Greathammer
Greatsword is in the works and twinblade, which I was going to cover, has an issue with a missing weapon in the file for pulling weapon range (so this is delayed). I will cover all the weapon types, but bows will probably be left until the end because I only use them for fun and not extensively.
@@Chrightt Thank you for responding! I am looking forward to your covering of the hammer, greathammer, and greatswords. I understand leaving bows for last, which I presume will be broken up into light, normal, and greatbows, with crossbows and balistas getting their own videos? I do want to ask, will you cover shields and torches as well, or just proper weapons?
Eagerly awaiting your Greataxe video whenever it is completed.
@@Chrightt HALBERD HYPE
@@Chrightt please lnclude reapers in halberd video
What armor is my guy using
Rogier's Rapier got nerf in 1.07?
Can you please do greatswords
What are you looking for in an offhand versus a mainhand?
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When equipping estoc on your right hand and watching the tip of the rapier you can see it's significantly longer than noble's and cleanrot, it's counterintuitive than both cleanrot and noble's are longer... is it due to hitboxes?
Yes, the hitboxes aren't as clean as people put it in some of the "narrow miss" clips. Characters also hold different weapons at different angles or have a different resting animation sometimes which adds to the confusion.
@@Chrightt yeah, so i suppose that the player wields cleanrot in a slightly different way so that it has more range compared to estoc/Noble. Or that's just a larger hitbox despite having a short tip 😂
I've seen al of your ER video, keep it up man. You're doing such a good work 😁.
The fact that antspur and inflict *scarlot rot* and still be infused but the frozen needle can't is damn criminal.
Bloody Helice in the right and Rogiers rapier on the left is all I run
I've never seen anyone mention the fact that if you light attack after a feint it does your backstep attack, which is incredible useful considering how long rage the thrusting swords backstep attack is
Did not know this
Yeah baby, my favorite weapon class
Wishing poison was a debuff to stamina recovery...
Red rot for health.
Green poison for stamina.
Sleep for Mana burn.
Crightt can you give us a breakdown of how diminishing returns work? Along with recommendations based on the math.
For instance, Dragoncrest Greatshield Talisman:
at 0 dmg neg (no armor) = +20
at 32 dmg neg (armor) = +13
at 51 dmg neg (armor, G Vow, Crab) = +9
Not sure if this interests you, but I'd love to know how to most optimize my buff stacking.
In relation to damage negation, it actually gets better. AR-wise it gets worse. I can probably clear this up.
@@Chrightt It'd be awesome if you did. I appreciate your work.
A bit off topic but what's a good ash of war for heavy Lance while using a greatshield?
For pve and PvP? Thanks. Using giant hunt at the moment just wondering if there is anything better. Seems good in pve and ok in PvP just hard to hit better players with it.
Great video too, speaking of the Lance would love to see heavy spears next video
Flaming Strike and Royal Knights Resolve are the other popular options.
@@Chrightt thanks
Would you suggest Rogier’s rapier as a main hand weapon on a dex build that does not use status? I know the damage and range are lower but the move set seems really good
I'd say you can use it just for the moveset, but it'll work better with status effects for sure.
@@Chrightt ty for the response. I want to do a final run of the game with no summons, offensive magic, or status effects but I’m trying to optimize my weapon. The cleanrot is probably the play but I think it’s ugly lol
Offstoc is of course called that because the estoc was overall the best in ds3
Which makes me wonder, did you do any pvp in the previous games? Of course it probably wasn’t worth mentioning why offstoc is called offstoc in either case, I’m just curious :)
I didn't do any resources for DS3 although I've heard of the offstoc for DS3. Just figured it's time to correct it!
Just wanted to add that thrusting sword powerstance has a super low stamina cost, and is great for applying bleed on blood infusions. It does favor the main hand a lot since the second L1 is a triple thrust with the main hand. So blood antspur mainhand with cleanrot/estoc off-hand can give you some major damage in PvE.
Poison Affinity/Infusion plus Seppuku on the Antspur Rapier, triple status, quad of you use Cold Affinity/Infusion on the off-hand thrusting sword.
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axes?
Chright is so adorable
Frozen needle my beloved
Wait so I may be a bit confused but the Rapier is the longest right?
You're very confused indeed xD The Rapier is the shortest. Timestamped from longest to shortest: ua-cam.com/video/9z1GPSsz9fI/v-deo.html
@@Chrightt thx for the follow up, I watched another vid with some info and may have gotten confused. Like and subbed :)