he is the grandfather of the Arabs and his descendants are the Saudis and the Arab Gulf states, He built the Kaaba, the qibla of Muslims, with his father, the Prophet Ibrahim, peace be upon them, and he is mentioned in particular every year during every Hajj in the Muslims.
Closer one draws to God and receives the fullness of God's holy spirit... THEN YOUR ENEMIES BECOME YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS... GOD'S LOVE OVERCOMES THE EVIL OF THIS WORLD...
wow , iam so proud and blessed to know that iam GOD child , iam protected by my Heavenly Father , who sits on the HOLY THRONE, MY LORD IS MY SUPER HERO , IAM A SUPER HERO too, iam grateful and feel blessed to be in My Heavenly Father ROYAL Family, The LORD is my Best Friend when everyone turned there back against me , I turned to the LORD he's my strength, my courage , my PEACE, my fellow believers in CHRIST, now is the time to FIght back , enough is enough, we have to FIght back we are GOD people, we are his sheep and his our Shepard, it says in the HOLY BIBLE, the LORD shall call his Sheep and he's Sheep shall hear his voice, HOLY HOLY is the ALMIGHTY GOD, the HEAVENS AND THE WHOLE Universe WORSHIP his name , GLORY BE TO GOD 🙏💙💙❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🫶🫶🤙🤙☺️☺️
Ishmael Hagar from Egypt 🇪🇬 Later became a big Arabia nation And father of all Muslim bro&sis In end every kneel n tongue should proclaim JESUS IS GOD AMEN 🙏
Sarai was old when they left Hebran but it says she was very beautiful when they went to Egypt. If she was not dying outwardly at the pace we do today, why would she be past child bearing years? Obviously, God was with them causing the baren womb until He was ready to give a child, so they, or at least Sarai did not age as others did and do.
Ishmaels grandchildren live in Gaza and fight with there nabors all the time. I question the greatness of either nation and there love for God. If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. John 4:20 History will mark us fools
Explaining what had happened without mentioning and warning about the consequences of impatience and not consulting God before doing anything of significance, this is dangerous, it's like saying it's ok to dosobey God and enjoy consequences.
May God's blessings fall on the lives of everyone who watches this video. Amen . One day my channel will reach the level of this channel of blessings and fulfillment. ❤
What you did not say is that The first wife has the total authority over the household and harem. A man is not to interfere with her judgements and decisions. That is why he bowed to the request of sending Hagar and her son away from her son. Hangar’s attitude seemed to not have changed but rather kept it from showing. Her son picked up this disrespect in the incident of mocking Issac, likely not an isolated incident. Sarah had fears that her son could be killed by Ishmael. He was 13 and Issac was an infant, any mother’s fear with multiple wives.
Very true, it was common even back then for sons to fight and even kill the other to fight over inheritance or thrones, especially if there were separate mothers that would benifit from it. By Jewish law it was Ishmael the oldest son not Isaac that should have received the inherentce from Abraham. Maby they wouldn't be enemy's today if Abraham had split the inherentce with them both and honored them both equally and there might not have been a endless jealousy, hatred, and fighting over Jerusalem/ Israel. (Personally i think it was what he did after Abraham ask them to leave the house that led to thousands of years of strive, not that he had two sons with two women)
@@aaronb8698 Had that split been done, it would have contravened God’s intention to create a separate line of descent down to Christ, create a people separate from the pagan religions at the time. Because of Sarah’s lack of complete trust that God would give her a son, she sinned both against God and her husband, allowed another woman into her close relationship with her husband which caused issues and went against what God had chosen Marriage to be- One Man, One Woman intimate relationship. In all this time, Abraham had never taken another woman to his bed, or divorced her for being barren. It was his right to do so under the current social norms. Yet she chose to pressure her husband to take a concubine, the son she would from Hagar, did not happen. Clearly, the 13 year old was as arrogant as his mother when he mocked Issac as some lowly status son, Sarah saw him as threat (which he was) to her son’s inheritance , but also his safety. She had put up with his mother’s attempt to replace Sarah as a legal wife and the son’s attitude mirrored that. Abraham sinned when he agreed to sleep with Hagar. Those two decisions would have far reaching and tragic consequences for the descendants of both Sons. God had mercy on Hagar , promising they would not die in the desert, but her son would become progenitor of a mighty descendants - yet his hand would be against all people, suggesting a quarrelsome nature that would grate against other tribes and cause conflicts. So do we blame God for his mercy to a mother’s heartfelt plea to save her child’s life as they were dying of thirst? Do we blame it on Abraham and Sarah’s decisions? Do we blame Ishmal’s dependents whose choice was to fight instead of diplomacy? Two decisions by two people lead to a child who would not be God’s chosen leader of his people. God’s decision not to let that child die but grow up. That led to the consequences of strife between Ishmael and Issac’s descendants Ask yourself, what does this cause and effect tell us? Multiple women competing for one man’s affection will cause strife and favouritism . It will cause strife between siblings over inheritance and children may be used as pawns in the competition between multiple women for husband’s time, affection, or resources. It is a warning of what happens when we disobey God ‘s commands and decide a solution ourselves. Sarah wanted mother and son dead but Abraham would not allow that in an outright manner, so she chose a more indirect way, send them away. They may live or die, more likely die, but God intervened against the murderous intent of Sarah’s heart. I believe God loved Ishmael just as much as Issac.
Many family's all over the world find a way to live in peace when there is a dispute over inheritance and legitimacy. Do you think all of palastin should be sent into the desert to die one again, or should the jew start showing some desancy and divide land fairly so all may live in peace, and with respect of fellow man without teaching there children to hate and murder there old family? (Is the ground soaked in Jewish blood the only thing that angers God or do all men have value? In truth i am angry at both the the sacred Jew, treating Palistin worse than the germans did in ww2 and the Palestinians for there unwillingness to make pease over old grievances and stop acting worse than all of us less chosen people. I think murdering children should be a war crime no madder if your Jewish Russian or Palistin and all who actually believe in God should look to find peace and try to improve the lives of old enemies with democracy not war.
Je vais t’envoyer Artémas ou Tychique. Quand ils seront arrivés, tâche de venir me retrouver à Nicopolis. C’est là que j’ai décidé de passer la mauvaise saison. Occupe-toi bien du voyage de Zénas l’avocat et d’Apollos, pour qu’ils ne manquent de rien. Nos frères et sœurs chrétiens aussi doivent apprendre à faire le bien parfaitement. Ainsi, ils pourront répondre aux besoins urgents et ils serviront à quelque chose. Tous ceux qui sont avec moi te saluent. Salue nos amis qui ont la même foi que nous. Que Dieu vous bénisse tous! Tite 3:12-15
God loves every soul be musilim hindu jew Christian budi or whatever God loves us all and only him will judge us all is like asking why did god create satan knowing he will disobey him and led many to sin
Hajar was a teanage Egyptian princess who was kidnapped during war and offered to a king's harem where Sarah was brought as the king wanted her (Ibrahim said she was his sister so that tey don't kill him to free Sarah from marriage). After God paralyzed the king 3 times when he tried to touch Sarah, he let her go and offers her to ask for any present. She then chose Hajar and treated her like a daughter not a servant. Hajar was the most educated person in Ibrahim's tribe, way more than Sarah.
If only Ishmael the son from hagar the Egyptians servant/ concubine didn't ever came into existed the world would have been peaceful , no fake prophets nor horrific demons with so much hatred for other religions would have dwelt among us in sheep clothing .
This garbage is nothing but a bunch of fake Christian nonsense spewing out of the mouths of people who couldn't be farther removed from Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, or the real people of the land and their history. Idiots who have nothing but pure, unadulterated hatred for the true descendants of Abraham. 😂
Facts and he’s talking in hindsight on something that at the time wasn’t common knowledge. Abraham had no bible or Qur’an knowledge, just a personal relationship with God but as a friend with a friend so he was learning on the job. The Law wasn’t even written then, how could he sin when there was no Law yet
It seems wrong to me to call it a sin given that having more than one wife and concubines was something permitted by the Lord in ancient times (check out the likes of King David and other prophets) ... yes it was not as God originally intended, but if God permitted it, it is wrong for us to make that kind of pronouncement surely?
If marriage was always between one man and one woman in Gods eyes, why did He say “I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms” after David slept with Bathsheba? God was upset over Bathsheba but was fine giving David the other wives
During that time God allowed man to take many wives if they were never married, although it was not his prefect will. The problem with David sleeping with Beersheba, she was married to another man and David killed her husband once he could not hide her pregnancy. Once, David saw his wrong and repented, God allowed him to take her so his son would be taken care of. If you read in Genesis, the first man to take two wives was Cain's grandson and he was a MAN OF THE WORLD. The men of Adam never took two wives until Abraham slept with Hagar. Then Ismael took 2 wives. No MAN OF GOD before these days took two wives.
@@michellehunter2993idk that doesn’t make sense to me. If marriage between one man and one woman was always the game plan then nothing else should be allowed. Unless it’s not that big of a deal. I can understand rule changes but if being with more than one woman was and is always wrong, why allow generations to be with more than one woman? Why willingly give one man multiple women but punish another for the same actions? Back then they could’ve had one wife but also had concubines n handmaidens. Technically the man would still be married to one woman which would’ve been seen as ok. Unless being with multiple woman just wasn’t or isn’t that big of a deal. Must not be if God himself gave them to David. If murdering innocent and just people is and was always wrong, would God tell someone to murder an innocent and just person? I feel most people would just say “well God does what he wants” but we all have a brain for a reason
What is the fastest way to grow a population and preserve genetic diversity? Multiple wives. Science gives us that. God changed His mind regarding Israel many times, as we see in the difference between Old and New Testaments. History gives us this. Lastly, faith, for who are we to judge what God decrees?? Hope this answers your questions, please feel free to ask if you want me to clarify since that's just a basic answer. I'm no expert but I spend a lot of time on the study anyhow
@@brandi7986So the only way God, who can do all things, could’ve grew the earths population and not have genetic mutation was to go against his own morals that he set and allow men to have multiple wives? It must not be a big deal if that was allowed and not other things but I’ll leave it alone
Just think, if God just didn't let this son live, we wouldn't have Islam today bc they all believe it's this sons land and not the 2nd sons but we know it wasn't the first son Ishmael. But he's wrong about the first person God ever named, Enoch wrote about what the lord wanted his grandson to be named and they were to call him Noah and look up what the name means and Adam didn't name himself, the lord did but Adam did name Eve.
It also goes back to Sarah. It was Sarah who put her slave to be with her husband because she had no patience. If Sarah had only waited and believed God.
Sarah mearly made a suggestion that could be accepted or rejected by Abram. He had time to think it over, pray about it, and possibly reject the suggestion. It was his physical act that caused the pregnancy. It adds up that he should take the blame. As my mom used to say, if someone suggests you jump off a cliff, it is your fault if you do and get hurt.
His descendants basically make up the entirety of what we know to be the muslims. Jews and Muslims are literal brothers destroying each other like Cain and Abel
Please do not change culture for popularity sake. It was common for the wealthy rulers to have many wives and concubines. Abraham had other sons as well. David, Solomon Saul ,are just a few who practiced what was considered normal as a way for men to multiply and replenish the earth.
The descendants of Ishmael are Palestinians, Muslims, and ISLAM! Firstborn to Abraham and Hagar! Isacc was born of Abraham and Sarai! Isacc is Blessed and his descendants are the JEWS and the Christians.
If Yahweh disagreed with the birth of Ishmael (around 2:40) He would have prevented it, He would not have blessed Him. We have to stick to the common sense of scripture and culture and time period. Interpretations have gotten many religions into grave situations. May we always have the mind of El Shaddai and not our own.
While the OLD TESTAMENT is an intact version since 400-100bc, there were other versions in the "ORAL traditions" from 8700bc-to- the-1700s. According to these ISHAMAEL is a son born to NAHA-MU and Noa-Noa, the same parents of SAMA, HAM, YAFAT, and NOT! some child of a slave women, (the name "Hagar" only means we are children of pilgrimage, NOT! to mecca), after the flood to safeguard against the WAR of LIES initiated by Nimrod c.4400bc. The ONE (Universal Cosmic Origin) provided NAHA-MU with a fourth son, ISHAMAEL. The descendants of ISHAMAEL include Kedemah, the (forewarned), father of the KEDEM(QADAM), "the wisest peoples" from whence Cadmus and academy derive from. Some of these peoples did live in the PARAN (a vast wilderness between the LEVANT, Euphrates, and Arabia), from 4400-800bc, having port cities on the Gulf. The vast majorities of which were living "worldwide." Again NOT! children of a slave woman.
ETERNAL GLORY TO THE ONLY HEAVENLY FATHER YAHUAH AND HIS SON YAHUSHA! THE RIGHT NAME OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS YAHUAH, AND THE NAME OF HIS SON OF OUR SAVIOR IS YAHUSHA! LORD, GOD ETC ... THESE ARE ONLY PAGAN TITLES REPLACED BY REAL HEBREW NAMES. ALL PRAISE TO THE MOST HIGH YAHUAH! HalleluYAH!
Really guys, really! I thought this was all about Abraham, Sarai, Hagar and Ishmael. It's pathetic to see how this all changes to Elizabeth on your comments. APTTMHY! ALLELUYAH!
Ish ma el means ish (man) ma (ma'at) el (angel of). Is (isis) ra (sun god) el (angel of). It's children of ra vs children of ma'at. Ma'at weighs sins with a feather. Revelations.
It wasn't a sin. Sin came with the law. As at then there was no law against it, and long after that incident there was still no law against it. Moses the law giver had more than one. Quit reading your personal opinion into it. It wasn't a sin. Keep it real.
Judgment day will be very disappointing for many… Not for reasons they think, but for undermining the words of Jesus by calling him God and thus calling him a liar. Jesus said “He that heareth my word, and *believeth on him that sent me* [the Father], hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life” (John 5:24). The most important thing about reading the word is to listen to what Jesus is saying about the Father. Those who call Jesus ‘God’ are rejecting the one true God, who is the Father. There is no verse that says Jesus is God; not a single one. Jesus told us who is the one true God and that is the Father (John 17:3). You must know both the Father and Jesus, or you will miss eternal life.
@@patriot4amer Christ isn’t God in the flesh. He is the “Word of God” in the flesh. He is the image of God-that doesn’t make him God, for no man has seen or heard God. This immediately disqualifies Jesus as God alone. God does display His divine nature through Jesus, but Jesus and God are separate entities…they are not the same entity, they are the same/one in agreement.
Is the biblical account really true, or has it been doctored? Please tell me how old Ishmael was when his mother put him on her shoulder and then threw him under a bush? The Bible states Abraham was 86 when Ishmael was born, it then states Abraham was 99 when Isaac was born. When Isaac was weaned ( when Isaac was about 2 or 3 years old) Ishmael and his mother were sent away, and Abraham put Ishmael on his mother's back. In response to this. so he was at least 16 years old. In those times, boys became men at 14 and could get married by then. Some Jews and Christians claim Ishmael was a dwarf!
I don’t think that Hagar or some other females were not the wives of Abraham, specially all prophets and the royals of ancient times had always many many wives not a single wife , so telling the story that Hagar was a slave or servant of Abraham and Sara is a twisted man made story , look at king David a lot of wives and he was a warrior same King Solomon strong king had a lot of wives and he was also warrior but only Jesus was most humble then came prophet Mohammad he was also warrior and had a lot of wives,, so it was just a normal thing in the ancient times but twisting the story in a manner that some body was servant or slave it’s not a true story only make an special race superior only for purposely endorsed story of master and slave game , in ancient times all wives were just like a slave or servants only because man was strong and master of the all house all kids and wives were just obedient and at submissive positions not same like in our modern days . There’s a lot of twist in the stories of specially prophets and kings even prophet Moses was a warrior and married a lot of time . I wonder that before Abraham there were nations all around the world Egyptian Pharos were very strong though not the race of Abraham even Abraham was also a part of a nation somewhere in present Iraq Or Mesopotamia,, so they were the producer of Abraham he was born there in a nation though all were pagans so I think everything was not only prophet Abraham but before him there were Noah Enoch and a lot who were also the prophets specially selected men by God or any Devine who is running this world with all of its odds ….
Hey, why are you adding a word/name to what is actually written in Galatians 4:26? Who told you that your mother is Sarah? Yea, maybe she is your mom, but that’s not what’s written in the Bible for the true children of God. 😂😅☕️
Women 🙄 Why is it titled as such? Was Ishmael really 'a forgotten' son? Forgotten by who? I doubt it. Interesting that you made a brief comparison between Issac and Jesus Christ. To think the descendants of Issac connived with Judas to have Jesus Christ killed for 30 pieces of silver; just because he was God's only begotten son, sent to cancel the old ways of worship.
Lot of foolish commentary for cherry picking . forget Sara , Hagar , Ishmaelites, Israelites for a minute. Question-1 Is it not , God is Just God , hence His creation is seen through that lenses . Question -2 Will God discriminate between first wife and and second wife as humanity for his creation? 3- Abraham is guid to humanity as Prophet, Will Abraham commit sin to guid humanity in violation of God”s commandments .Will that serve God”s purpose to send prophets to guid humanity. Question-4 . This conventional explanation of yours in your commentary is not from original Bible and original Tora , both are lost . How many words and texts have been changed for the kings to mange their kingdoms for their wishes . Question-5 Hagar was princess , a daughter of king . A daughter who was introverted Godly person who did not socialize with anyone . A daughter who chose with free will to serve as maid instead to be queen and live in luxury. Sara was 65 year elderly women at the time . Many cultures help their loved ones to give their daughter to help the elderly , specially in this case a Godly couple. Slave is always purchased and sold for value . Did Sara paid any monetary value , instead father of Hagar as a king gave lot of treasures and animals to Abraham & Sara when they left Egypt. Because of these treasures Abraham became rich man . Hagar was never slave , these are silly commentaries to mislead people . Hagar served for the sake of God as volunteer. To me it looks we want to divide world between white and black for a reason . God is neither God of black or white . He is God of all equally with no distinction . Abraham and Sara both were born in Ur city of Iraq among Middle Eastern people . Neither were they black nor were they white, like God cares ? . Abraham & Sara are descendants of Shem , son of Prophet Nova , Noah Es . God is love , not hate !
@@noemibarrios4056 hey Dipshite… do Not need to check facts as I never said Sarah was ugly and can YOU prove she was not and neither was I blabbering but adding a possibility as We all Know man’s flesh is weak… Now, Can You prove Me Wrong? Unless you can, do not reply as You are excused!
Asserting either way that he wanted or didn’t want Hagar is unfounded and undocumented conjecture. We simply do not and cannot know. Furthermore it’s irrelevant and unimportant. 🤷🏻♂️ Who cares? 😅
@@ericb2409 no, Not unimportant nor irrelevant nor unfounded and neither do I care… these things are here for ALL opinions and though knowing what is said about opinions… that is just another suggestable idea. Now, wether it buggers Your little brain… DEAL WITH IT or not, I really do not, as You say, give a care. YOU too are excused.
Africa yet European in vid stop perpetuating a lie. Does more harm when u put one ethnicity over or dominate than another instead of accurate depiction and showing ppl intermingling and getting along. Like we should be doing
Radical side of Muslims results in terroristism....whereas the results of Christianity results in humility..love... servant hood...loving our enemies....BIG DIFFERENCE
The Covenant was with " the first born son"" as was custom. Not the second born son. You made up a plethora of lies... and contorted the words of the prophecy to meet your own desires. You make up so much bs.
Wrong. The Covenant was with the promised child, not the cild of the flesh. The Covenant was with the one born of impossible circumstances; not the child born of natural drives.
It matters not. JESUS CHRIST is the only way and the only covenant that matters to God. The Old Testament and the old ways are redundant and tossed out. Replaced by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, in the New Testament.
@@_SnowJustice_God never tossed anything, only came to forfil because no man could live and meet God with the old ways. Jesus provided Grace because he was now the blood sacrifice
Praise to our Lord Jesus Christ ✝️🙏Amen
Excellent (and biblical) study. Bless you and thankyou.
he is the grandfather of the Arabs and his descendants are the Saudis and the Arab Gulf states, He built the Kaaba, the qibla of Muslims, with his father, the Prophet Ibrahim, peace be upon them, and he is mentioned in particular every year during every Hajj in the Muslims.
Praise to our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏✝️Amen
God isn't a man and Jesus is a prophet
Closer one draws to God and receives the fullness of God's holy spirit... THEN YOUR ENEMIES BECOME YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS... GOD'S LOVE OVERCOMES THE EVIL OF THIS WORLD...
This is what happens when humans meddle instead of waiting for Gods way
wow , iam so proud and blessed to know that iam GOD child , iam protected by my Heavenly Father , who sits on the HOLY THRONE, MY LORD IS MY SUPER HERO , IAM A SUPER HERO too, iam grateful and feel blessed to be in My Heavenly Father ROYAL Family, The LORD is my Best Friend when everyone turned there back against me , I turned to the LORD he's my strength, my courage , my PEACE, my fellow believers in CHRIST, now is the time to FIght back , enough is enough, we have to FIght back we are GOD people, we are his sheep and his our Shepard, it says in the HOLY BIBLE, the LORD shall call his Sheep and he's Sheep shall hear his voice, HOLY HOLY is the ALMIGHTY GOD, the HEAVENS AND THE WHOLE Universe WORSHIP his name , GLORY BE TO GOD 🙏💙💙❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🫶🫶🤙🤙☺️☺️
God bless ❤❤
Can see how there are nations ...brought from one man..
Ishmael Hagar from Egypt 🇪🇬
Later became a big Arabia nation
And father of all Muslim bro&sis
In end every kneel n tongue should proclaim JESUS IS GOD AMEN 🙏
Jesus is a human
Sarai was old when they left Hebran but it says she was very beautiful when they went to Egypt. If she was not dying outwardly at the pace we do today, why would she be past child bearing years? Obviously, God was with them causing the baren womb until He was ready to give a child, so they, or at least Sarai did not age as others did and do.
Glory to God
Nobody ever mentions that Abraham had 12 more sons by Keturah, his second wife.
This is a major point being made. They are not a part of the point.
Ishmaels grandchildren live in Gaza and fight with there nabors all the time.
I question the greatness of either nation and there love for God. If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. John 4:20
History will mark us fools
outstanding observation and a comment worth noting.God bless you!
Well the Israelites and Judaeans fought all the time. They are even more closely related
It is sad, but I the Bible it says Ishmael will fight with others and others will always fight with him
yes it did....great observation.God Bless@@nanhand99
@@nanhand99 that is actually for Esau
Explaining what had happened without mentioning and warning about the consequences of impatience and not consulting God before doing anything of significance, this is dangerous, it's like saying it's ok to dosobey God and enjoy consequences.
Awesome, thank you,god only talks to some .
Great good to others think about oil
May God's blessings fall on the lives of everyone who watches this video. Amen . One day my channel will reach the level of this channel of blessings and fulfillment.
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Very Good my friend.
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Always these is a promise of building a great nation. What god exactly promise these things
What you did not say is that The first wife has the total authority over the household and harem. A man is not to interfere with her judgements and decisions. That is why he bowed to the request of sending Hagar and her son away from her son. Hangar’s attitude seemed to not have changed but rather kept it from showing. Her son picked up this disrespect in the incident of mocking Issac, likely not an isolated incident. Sarah had fears that her son could be killed by Ishmael. He was 13 and Issac was an infant, any mother’s fear with multiple wives.
Very true, it was common even back then for sons to fight and even kill the other to fight over inheritance or thrones, especially if there were separate mothers that would benifit from it.
By Jewish law it was Ishmael the oldest son not Isaac that should have received the inherentce from Abraham. Maby they wouldn't be enemy's today if Abraham had split the inherentce with them both and honored them both equally and there might not have been a endless jealousy, hatred, and fighting over Jerusalem/ Israel. (Personally i think it was what he did after Abraham ask them to leave the house that led to thousands of years of strive, not that he had two sons with two women)
@@aaronb8698 Had that split been done, it would have contravened God’s intention to create a separate line of descent down to Christ, create a people separate from the pagan religions at the time. Because of Sarah’s lack of complete trust that God would give her a son, she sinned both against God and her husband, allowed another woman into her close relationship with her husband which caused issues and went against what God had chosen Marriage to be- One Man, One Woman intimate relationship. In all this time, Abraham had never taken another woman to his bed, or divorced her for being barren. It was his right to do so under the current social norms. Yet she chose to pressure her husband to take a concubine, the son she would from Hagar, did not happen. Clearly, the 13 year old was as arrogant as his mother when he mocked Issac as some lowly status son, Sarah saw him as threat (which he was) to her son’s inheritance , but also his safety. She had put up with his mother’s attempt to replace Sarah as a legal wife and the son’s attitude mirrored that. Abraham sinned when he agreed to sleep with Hagar. Those two decisions would have far reaching and tragic consequences for the descendants of both Sons. God had mercy on Hagar , promising they would not die in the desert, but her son would become progenitor of a mighty descendants - yet his hand would be against all people, suggesting a quarrelsome nature that would grate against other tribes and cause conflicts. So do we blame God for his mercy to a mother’s heartfelt plea to save her child’s life as they were dying of thirst? Do we blame it on Abraham and Sarah’s decisions? Do we blame Ishmal’s dependents whose choice was to fight instead of diplomacy? Two decisions by two people lead to a child who would not be God’s chosen leader of his people. God’s decision not to let that child die but grow up. That led to the consequences of strife between Ishmael and Issac’s descendants Ask yourself, what does this cause and effect tell us? Multiple women competing for one man’s affection will cause strife and favouritism . It will cause strife between siblings over inheritance and children may be used as pawns in the competition between multiple women for husband’s time, affection, or resources. It is a warning of what happens when we disobey God ‘s commands and decide a solution ourselves. Sarah wanted mother and son dead but Abraham would not allow that in an outright manner, so she chose a more indirect way, send them away. They may live or die, more likely die, but God intervened against the murderous intent of Sarah’s heart. I believe God loved Ishmael just as much as Issac.
Many family's all over the world find a way to live in peace when there is a dispute over inheritance and legitimacy.
Do you think all of palastin should be sent into the desert to die one again, or should the jew start showing some desancy and divide land fairly so all may live in peace, and with respect of fellow man without teaching there children to hate and murder there old family? (Is the ground soaked in Jewish blood the only thing that angers God or do all men have value? In truth i am angry at both the the sacred Jew, treating Palistin worse than the germans did in ww2 and the Palestinians for there unwillingness to make pease over old grievances and stop acting worse than all of us less chosen people.
I think murdering children should be a war crime no madder if your Jewish Russian or Palistin and all who actually believe in God should look to find peace and try to improve the lives of old enemies with democracy not war.
@@KittymoreJoy Nice breakdown. Thanks for this.
Je vais t’envoyer Artémas ou Tychique. Quand ils seront arrivés, tâche de venir me retrouver à Nicopolis. C’est là que j’ai décidé de passer la mauvaise saison. Occupe-toi bien du voyage de Zénas l’avocat et d’Apollos, pour qu’ils ne manquent de rien. Nos frères et sœurs chrétiens aussi doivent apprendre à faire le bien parfaitement. Ainsi, ils pourront répondre aux besoins urgents et ils serviront à quelque chose. Tous ceux qui sont avec moi te saluent. Salue nos amis qui ont la même foi que nous. Que Dieu vous bénisse tous!
Tite 3:12-15
Ishmael seemed to be a bit forgotten by the others
God loves every soul be musilim hindu jew Christian budi or whatever God loves us all and only him will judge us all is like asking why did god create satan knowing he will disobey him and led many to sin
God wants to know who will choose the Satan. They are not his people and not part of His plan.
He loves them but no one comes to the father except through his son, Jesus Christ.
Those days life was much simpler , no tv thus there was no temptation like now ,
Hajar was a teanage Egyptian princess who was kidnapped during war and offered to a king's harem where Sarah was brought as the king wanted her (Ibrahim said she was his sister so that tey don't kill him to free Sarah from marriage).
After God paralyzed the king 3 times when he tried to touch Sarah, he let her go and offers her to ask for any present.
She then chose Hajar and treated her like a daughter not a servant.
Hajar was the most educated person in Ibrahim's tribe, way more than Sarah.
Nice story ❤❤
Yes, it is an interesting 10:31 read.
And They all lived in Utter Turmoil ever since.😢
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Props to Abraham. I would’ve hated Sarah for the rest of her life if she made me abandon my child because she was petty and couldn’t get along.
If only Ishmael the son from hagar the Egyptians servant/ concubine didn't ever came into existed the world would have been peaceful , no fake prophets nor horrific demons with so much hatred for other religions would have dwelt among us in sheep clothing .
This garbage is nothing but a bunch of fake Christian nonsense spewing out of the mouths of people who couldn't be farther removed from Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, or the real people of the land and their history. Idiots who have nothing but pure, unadulterated hatred for the true descendants of Abraham. 😂
Yee!
As an Arab Muslim, I am here listening to an American missionary accusing Abraham عليه السلام of sin. What a bad joke this is
Facts and he’s talking in hindsight on something that at the time wasn’t common knowledge. Abraham had no bible or Qur’an knowledge, just a personal relationship with God but as a friend with a friend so he was learning on the job. The Law wasn’t even written then, how could he sin when there was no Law yet
It seems wrong to me to call it a sin given that having more than one wife and concubines was something permitted by the Lord in ancient times (check out the likes of King David and other prophets) ... yes it was not as God originally intended, but if God permitted it, it is wrong for us to make that kind of pronouncement surely?
If marriage was always between one man and one woman in Gods eyes, why did He say “I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms” after David slept with Bathsheba? God was upset over Bathsheba but was fine giving David the other wives
During that time God allowed man to take many wives if they were never married, although it was not his prefect will. The problem with David sleeping with Beersheba, she was married to another man and David killed her husband once he could not hide her pregnancy. Once, David saw his wrong and repented, God allowed him to take her so his son would be taken care of. If you read in Genesis, the first man to take two wives was Cain's grandson and he was a MAN OF THE WORLD. The men of Adam never took two wives until Abraham slept with Hagar. Then Ismael took 2 wives. No MAN OF GOD before these days took two wives.
@@michellehunter2993idk that doesn’t make sense to me. If marriage between one man and one woman was always the game plan then nothing else should be allowed. Unless it’s not that big of a deal. I can understand rule changes but if being with more than one woman was and is always wrong, why allow generations to be with more than one woman? Why willingly give one man multiple women but punish another for the same actions? Back then they could’ve had one wife but also had concubines n handmaidens. Technically the man would still be married to one woman which would’ve been seen as ok. Unless being with multiple woman just wasn’t or isn’t that big of a deal. Must not be if God himself gave them to David. If murdering innocent and just people is and was always wrong, would God tell someone to murder an innocent and just person? I feel most people would just say “well God does what he wants” but we all have a brain for a reason
What is the fastest way to grow a population and preserve genetic diversity? Multiple wives. Science gives us that.
God changed His mind regarding Israel many times, as we see in the difference between Old and New Testaments. History gives us this.
Lastly, faith, for who are we to judge what God decrees??
Hope this answers your questions, please feel free to ask if you want me to clarify since that's just a basic answer.
I'm no expert but I spend a lot of time on the study anyhow
@@brandi7986So the only way God, who can do all things, could’ve grew the earths population and not have genetic mutation was to go against his own morals that he set and allow men to have multiple wives? It must not be a big deal if that was allowed and not other things but I’ll leave it alone
Bro switch to islam you can have 4 wives i was watching the video and i was thinking the.same as you think god im muslem
Just think, if God just didn't let this son live, we wouldn't have Islam today bc they all believe it's this sons land and not the 2nd sons but we know it wasn't the first son Ishmael. But he's wrong about the first person God ever named, Enoch wrote about what the lord wanted his grandson to be named and they were to call him Noah and look up what the name means and Adam didn't name himself, the lord did but Adam did name Eve.
It all went according to the lord
It also goes back to Sarah. It was Sarah who put her slave to be with her husband because she had no patience. If Sarah had only waited and believed God.
Thanks for letting us Know the history of Ishmael
Sarah mearly made a suggestion that could be accepted or rejected by Abram. He had time to think it over, pray about it, and possibly reject the suggestion. It was his physical act that caused the pregnancy. It adds up that he should take the blame. As my mom used to say, if someone suggests you jump off a cliff, it is your fault if you do and get hurt.
@@jaynekrauss4758 , I agree with you, look how many wife's David had and had his best friend killed to take his wife, they all human
Does anyone actually knows what happened to him
His descendants basically make up the entirety of what we know to be the muslims. Jews and Muslims are literal brothers destroying each other like Cain and Abel
You made them « Muslim » 😱😱😱😆😵💫😵💫😵💫
Sure did
Abraham is the father of three religions
Judaism, Islam, and Christianity
And?
@@feanacar islam came 600 years after I dont think so
False ..
Please do not change culture for popularity sake. It was common for the wealthy rulers to have many wives and concubines. Abraham had other sons as well. David, Solomon Saul ,are just a few who practiced what was considered normal as a way for men to multiply and replenish the earth.
The descendants of Ishmael are Palestinians, Muslims, and ISLAM! Firstborn to Abraham and Hagar! Isacc was born of Abraham and Sarai! Isacc is Blessed and his descendants are the JEWS and the Christians.
The bluest eyed Arab I've ever seen
If Yahweh disagreed with the birth of Ishmael (around 2:40) He would have prevented it, He would not have blessed Him. We have to stick to the common sense of scripture and culture and time period. Interpretations have gotten many religions into grave situations.
May we always have the mind of El Shaddai and not our own.
While the OLD TESTAMENT is an intact version since 400-100bc, there were other versions in the "ORAL traditions" from 8700bc-to- the-1700s. According to these ISHAMAEL is a son born to NAHA-MU and Noa-Noa, the same parents of SAMA, HAM, YAFAT, and NOT! some child of a slave women, (the name "Hagar" only means we are children of pilgrimage, NOT! to mecca), after the flood to safeguard against the WAR of LIES initiated by Nimrod c.4400bc. The ONE (Universal Cosmic Origin) provided NAHA-MU with a fourth son, ISHAMAEL. The descendants of ISHAMAEL include Kedemah, the (forewarned), father of the KEDEM(QADAM), "the wisest peoples" from whence Cadmus and academy derive from. Some of these peoples did live in the PARAN (a vast wilderness between the LEVANT, Euphrates, and Arabia), from 4400-800bc, having port cities on the Gulf. The vast majorities of which were living "worldwide." Again NOT! children of a slave woman.
ETERNAL GLORY TO THE ONLY HEAVENLY FATHER YAHUAH AND HIS SON YAHUSHA! THE RIGHT NAME OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS YAHUAH, AND THE NAME OF HIS SON OF OUR SAVIOR IS YAHUSHA! LORD, GOD ETC ... THESE ARE ONLY PAGAN TITLES REPLACED BY REAL HEBREW NAMES. ALL PRAISE TO THE MOST HIGH YAHUAH! HalleluYAH!
Hagar, Pharaoh's daughter
What if you pronounce ishmael and israel
Really guys, really! I thought this was all about Abraham, Sarai, Hagar and Ishmael. It's pathetic to see how this all changes to Elizabeth on your comments. APTTMHY! ALLELUYAH!
Should the Bible add 4 books?
Ish ma el means ish (man) ma (ma'at) el (angel of). Is (isis) ra (sun god) el (angel of). It's children of ra vs children of ma'at. Ma'at weighs sins with a feather. Revelations.
"God will hear"Ishmael
Forgotten!!! No way.
It wasn't a sin. Sin came with the law. As at then there was no law against it, and long after that incident there was still no law against it. Moses the law giver had more than one.
Quit reading your personal opinion into it. It wasn't a sin. Keep it real.
Judgment day will be very disappointing for many…
Not for reasons they think, but for undermining the words of Jesus by calling him God and thus calling him a liar. Jesus said “He that heareth my word, and *believeth on him that sent me* [the Father], hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life” (John 5:24). The most important thing about reading the word is to listen to what Jesus is saying about the Father. Those who call Jesus ‘God’ are rejecting the one true God, who is the Father. There is no verse that says Jesus is God; not a single one. Jesus told us who is the one true God and that is the Father (John 17:3). You must know both the Father and Jesus, or you will miss eternal life.
I'm looking for any church that believes this bc it is true. Jesus was Messiah but not God.
@@notacommunistholocaustdenier Amen! I’ve been looking for one too-most do not fully speak the words of God.
@@Shawn-q3x the only group I know who clearly says this message is the twelve tribes community
Knowing Christ.....(. God in the flesh)....is knowing the Father.... John 17..... God displays His devine nature..thru Christ....
@@patriot4amer Christ isn’t God in the flesh. He is the “Word of God” in the flesh. He is the image of God-that doesn’t make him God, for no man has seen or heard God. This immediately disqualifies Jesus as God alone.
God does display His divine nature through Jesus, but Jesus and God are separate entities…they are not the same entity, they are the same/one in agreement.
Lol, prophets had multiple wives, e.g Jacob, David, Solomon. Why you said Abraham did sin by having multiple wives.
Is the biblical account really true, or has it been doctored?
Please tell me how old Ishmael was when his mother put him on her shoulder and then threw him under a bush?
The Bible states Abraham was 86 when Ishmael was born, it then states Abraham was 99 when Isaac was born. When Isaac was weaned ( when Isaac was about 2 or 3 years old) Ishmael and his mother were sent away, and Abraham put Ishmael on his mother's back. In response to this. so he was at least 16 years old. In those times, boys became men at 14 and could get married by then.
Some Jews and Christians claim Ishmael was a dwarf!
I don’t think that Hagar or some other females were not the wives of Abraham, specially all prophets and the royals of ancient times had always many many wives not a single wife , so telling the story that Hagar was a slave or servant of Abraham and Sara is a twisted man made story , look at king David a lot of wives and he was a warrior same King Solomon strong king had a lot of wives and he was also warrior but only Jesus was most humble then came prophet Mohammad he was also warrior and had a lot of wives,, so it was just a normal thing in the ancient times but twisting the story in a manner that some body was servant or slave it’s not a true story only make an special race superior only for purposely endorsed story of master and slave game , in ancient times all wives were just like a slave or servants only because man was strong and master of the all house all kids and wives were just obedient and at submissive positions not same like in our modern days . There’s a lot of twist in the stories of specially prophets and kings even prophet Moses was a warrior and married a lot of time . I wonder that before Abraham there were nations all around the world Egyptian Pharos were very strong though not the race of Abraham even Abraham was also a part of a nation somewhere in present Iraq Or Mesopotamia,, so they were the producer of Abraham he was born there in a nation though all were pagans so I think everything was not only prophet Abraham but before him there were Noah Enoch and a lot who were also the prophets specially selected men by God or any Devine who is running this world with all of its odds ….
Hey, why are you adding a word/name to what is actually written in Galatians 4:26? Who told you that your mother is Sarah? Yea, maybe she is your mom, but that’s not what’s written in the Bible for the true children of God. 😂😅☕️
All Africa ....no middle east
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Why is it titled as such? Was Ishmael really 'a forgotten' son? Forgotten by who? I doubt it.
Interesting that you made a brief comparison between Issac and Jesus Christ. To think the descendants of Issac connived with Judas to have Jesus Christ killed for 30 pieces of silver; just because he was God's only begotten son, sent to cancel the old ways of worship.
Muhammed was sent to cancel biased ways of worship
Lot of foolish commentary for cherry picking . forget Sara , Hagar , Ishmaelites, Israelites for a minute.
Question-1
Is it not , God is Just God , hence His creation is seen through that lenses .
Question -2
Will God discriminate between first wife and and second wife as humanity for his creation?
3- Abraham is guid to humanity as Prophet, Will Abraham commit sin to guid humanity in violation of God”s commandments .Will that serve God”s purpose to send prophets to guid humanity.
Question-4 .
This conventional explanation of yours in your commentary is not from original Bible and original Tora , both are lost . How many words and texts have been changed for the kings to mange their kingdoms for their wishes .
Question-5
Hagar was princess , a daughter of king . A daughter who was introverted Godly person who did not socialize with anyone . A daughter who chose with free will to serve as maid instead to be queen and live in luxury. Sara was 65 year elderly women at the time . Many cultures help their loved ones to give their daughter to help the elderly , specially in this case a Godly couple.
Slave is always purchased and sold for value . Did Sara paid any monetary value , instead father of Hagar as a king gave lot of treasures and animals to Abraham & Sara when they left Egypt. Because of these treasures Abraham became rich man . Hagar was never slave , these are silly commentaries to mislead people . Hagar served for the sake of God as volunteer.
To me it looks we want to divide world between white and black for a reason .
God is neither God of black or white . He is God of all equally with no distinction . Abraham and Sara both were born in Ur city of Iraq among Middle Eastern people . Neither were they black nor were they white, like God cares ? . Abraham & Sara are descendants of Shem , son of Prophet Nova , Noah Es .
God is love , not hate !
Lovely video but stop trying to provide reasons for God's actions for no man knows why God acts. Just trust his actions.
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Why not just admit he went with his wife’s suggestion because he desired her maid to begin with…
where’s that in the Bible silly woman Sarah was beautiful and Abraham did not desire Hagar do your due diligence and check facts instead of blabbering
@@noemibarrios4056 hey Dipshite… do Not need to check facts as I never said Sarah was ugly and can YOU prove she was not and neither was I blabbering but adding a possibility as We all Know man’s flesh is weak… Now, Can You prove Me Wrong? Unless you can, do not reply as You are excused!
Asserting either way that he wanted or didn’t want Hagar is unfounded and undocumented conjecture. We simply do not and cannot know. Furthermore it’s irrelevant and unimportant. 🤷🏻♂️ Who cares? 😅
@@ericb2409 no, Not unimportant nor irrelevant nor unfounded and neither do I care… these things are here for ALL opinions and though knowing what is said about opinions… that is just another suggestable idea. Now, wether it buggers Your little brain… DEAL WITH IT or not, I really do not, as You say, give a care. YOU too are excused.
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Just propaganda
Africa yet European in vid stop perpetuating a lie. Does more harm when u put one ethnicity over or dominate than another instead of accurate depiction and showing ppl intermingling and getting along. Like we should be doing
Radical side of Muslims results in terroristism....whereas the results of Christianity results in humility..love... servant hood...loving our enemies....BIG DIFFERENCE
The Covenant was with " the first born son"" as was custom. Not the second born son. You made up a plethora of lies... and contorted the words of the prophecy to meet your own desires. You make up so much bs.
Wrong.
The Covenant was with the promised child, not the cild of the flesh.
The Covenant was with the one born of impossible circumstances; not the child born of natural drives.
It matters not. JESUS CHRIST is the only way and the only covenant that matters to God. The Old Testament and the old ways are redundant and tossed out. Replaced by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, in the New Testament.
@@_SnowJustice_God never tossed anything, only came to forfil because no man could live and meet God with the old ways. Jesus provided Grace because he was now the blood sacrifice
Such BS.
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This is what happens when humans meddle instead of waiting for Gods way
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