GENESIS IN CONVERSATION AT THE FARM PT2: WHY DID THEY BUILD THEIR OWN STUDIO IN 1980?
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2024
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In 1980 GENESIS BUILT THEIR OWN RECORDING STUDIO IN THE COUNTRY. Here Phil Collins, Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford meet up there and tell the story of how it came about.
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Thank you so much for adding this. I've been waiting for part 2 ever since you announced it.😃
Thanks again John. These videos are invaluable to the fans. I thought ages ago that you must've shared everything you had but I love the drip drip of new interviews and extra footage which you put out every so often. I hope there's plenty more to come!
Thanks! Glad you find my videos so valuable. There’s certainly a few more to come … eventually!
These 3 made some amazing music in a 15 year period after PG and SH left.
There is the farm. Then there is the 'FARM'. FED well, while there. These talks are regarding epic sounds & performances that still, to this day, move me for the talent is raw. Thanks for this post. Appreciate these artists.
Thanks John. Really enjoy these interviews. I often listen 2 or 3 times to each one.
These guys were great ball breakers.
Thanks John! Another gem. And some great insights to how having their own workspace transformed (and, I would argue, deepened) how they worked, creating space for a more collective process.
Thanks again for these. I watch them over and over. Please add the rest of the videos. I think the original was about an hour? Thank you for supporting Genesis. I miss them so much!
Here’s the previous upload GENESIS IN CONVERSATION AT THE FARM. PT 1 - WHAT'S THE SECRET ?
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Thanks John for another interesting and informative video. It is a real shame that the studio no longer exists but the years move on
10yrs old and you can already see the early signs of Phil's condition (sad really for such a powerful drummer and singer)
Great stuff! Thanks John.
My total pleasure!
The studio no longer exists and is a renovated home now
It's a bit heartbreaking...took me years to find it as a younger man. I cycled to Loxwood from Hurstpierpoint back in the late 80s when i was 14 or 15 looking for The Farm or Phils house. Being too shy to ask anyone I found neither😅 Then a few years later (mid 90s) once I could drive I found Fisher Lane on the map and put two and two together...Also managed to find courage to ask someone where Phils house was and the mystery was solved. It's also empty now too, all over grown, quite ghostly. I'm assuming he still owns the place now Jill is back in the States...I wonder if he ever thinks about moving back from that mad house USA and seeing out the winter years there near Tony and Mike...probably not😏
Yeah probably not. Because all his children are in Canada and USA.
@@JSebastien94True...but the green landscape of the sussex/surrey border must remind him of those glory days, when times were good...😎
@@christianparsons6050 They've kind of admitted they didn't exactly 'hang out' with one another. And its warmer in Miami:)
These guys are such prolific writers and musicians who have created some of the greatest songs ever, the 70's and 80's were such a great time for Genesis, I'll always treasure their live performances, great memories of a great back of friends, thanks Genesis.😎👍
Bravoo for this film❤❤❤😊
Fantastic as ever. 👍🏻
Thanks!
Thank you so much !
I’m glad I’m able to enjoy everything they recorded more than Tony! He rarely seems satisfied.
haha, it's prob just because he's so close to the work and has an entirely different relationship with it than us. He's also likely a perfectionist.
Very interesting, thx 🌳
Awesome video have a great day John also happy Halloween ❤😊
Thanks! You too!
Genesis-and Phil-always sounded better live, imo. But Mama and Home By The Sea-that whole Genesis album-was the best sounding recording, I think. The recordings just missed something in the 3D depth that the live performances had. And, of course, what is often missed by critics, they lacked the amazing showmanship. Everyone talks about Phil's drumming and his voice, which were flawless, don't get me wrong. But his energy and showmanship-his acting, delivery and crowd work-are really what he did best. There is only one video I like equally with a live performance and that's Mama, partly because it's a well done video and partly because that is such a demanding song on his voice that he couldn't rip out fully, then have the voice for the rest of the set, night after night after night. So the live recordings I've seen have often held back on the entirety of what he did in the studio. That said, he freaking wailed on that song live.
That was my whole point for posting, I don't think Mama ever sounded better than on the recording. And that Wilson guy (ron? ray?) talked about how important it was to get the laugh right, but you think the song is ending and it comes to that final verse and Phil definitely had the singing demons inside him for that, that 'singing it like you mean it'. Not sure what it was on that day, but that was definitely his 'touch me now' moment.
I always found him a bit of a lazy singer, in that he was a 'natural singer' and didn't seem to want to experiment much, whereas Pete I guess is more vocal based, so I get the feeling that he liked the dodgy beginning of 'watcher of the skies' because as a singer its a challenge. Phil has always derided the notion of being the singer, and it kind of shows. Pete always sounded like he was putting everything into it. But on Mama, its really like he's scraping the bottom of his guts to get it out. Its always weird to hear that song on a playlist and then "ok, now here's a song about how it sucks to be an illegal alien".
@@mikearchibald744Mama is definitely a best performance. As is that Paris live version of In The Air Tonight, where he also has a good rock vibe to his voice after the drums drop. And I Don’t Care Anymore. I’m mulling what you mean by lazy singer. Because I think he gave everything on stage, solo or in Genesis. I feel like a lot of Genesis for maybe 8-10 years after Gabriel left was still experimental. Mama and Home by the Sea were still pushing things back then. Just the big long instrumentals were out of the ordinary and they did a lot of those. But if the best things you do in life are Mama and In The Air Tonight, and most of the rest is Against All Odds, you’re still way ahead of the curve. Anyway, have you seen the tambourine dance on Phil’s version of I Know What I Like? That was one of those moments like the laugh in Mama that made you look at Phil a little differently.
@@schmedrake5429 I think so, I'm not down on Phil, the guy is pretty open that he has always known he was a good singer, and has always been pretty open on what he thinks of singers.
But the guy is a workaholic and a perfectionist, so maybe 'lazy' is the wrong word, because he even pours his guts into his lyrics, so I guess its the fact that MOST of what he sings that he writes seems fairly straightforward.
Tony gets into it here when he talks about the 'intensity' and pushing a vocalist right to the edge of their range. And perhaps its just KNOWING what he thinks of performers and singers that makes it all look a little fake to me, I'm not sure.
Or maybe its the maritimer in me that figures the guy is super rich, has tons of accolades for everything from drumming to songwriting to singing so we should shit on him for SOMETHING.
All I know is that when I listen to Mama, thats a Phil Collins that I've never heard anywhere else, and he was pretty ubiquitous.
@@mikearchibald744I think definitely people get down on him because he was just EVERYWHERE. And I’m sure, in his ubiquity, men also resented this short, odd looking bald guy that could steal your girlfriend if he wanted to. I do think he gets a lot of unfair criticism. But I think it’s outweighed by the general consensus that he was a deserving phenom. I mean, look at songbook! Honestly, go look at I Know What I Like. Young or old version. The man can do a tambourine dance.
@@schmedrake5429 Well, I just remember him goofing around as he often did with Peter. I definitely don't think he could steal many girlfriends, he was talented, but then so are a lot of people. He certainly was unique, not many drummers coming out and singing.
Frankly I don't think about him much, as a Genesis fan, its pretty funny becaues basically to me he was just the drummer. I don't think his songs were that good, and a lot of what we think of him as is a media creation. He was 'of that time'. Had he been around today, with no MTV, nobody would know who he was, the only thing media cares about are artists that cater to fourteen year olds. Maybe thats all they ever did.
But no, I dont 'hate' anybody and certainly not Phil Collins. He loved music and poured his heart into it, but again, so did lots of others. He got media criticism, but lots of people do, and media really isn't to be trusted with such things. At the same time, nothing he produced in the eighties comes close to my mind to what they were doing in the seventies. Not sure why he paid so much attention to critics and 'took things so seriously' despite constantly stating they didn't take things seriously.
But as my mom would say, 'anybody with a choice of cheese at dinner has nothing to complain about'.
Always wondered if Abacab, the song, was the first thing they did, and if Hugh was commissioned when they laid down the basic tracks, or did they lay them down before that?
Nobody mentioned the 'Abacab Cafe' (if you know, you know 😉)
These guys are not new to farmyards. I seem to remember the lamb and wind & wuthering recordings being exactly the same. Correct me if I'm wrong.
When is this?
2014
facial expressions are interesting - banks and rutherford are poker faced in essence throughout whereas Phil’s face is very expressive all the time….is that down to childhoods spent on the one hand in public schools (Give nothing away !!) as opposed to the non stiff-upper-lip formative years ?? I’m just saying...
Possibly - but not entirely convincing . After all peter Gabriel went to the same public school and if you see him on " the Five " sessions , he's animated and full of mischief too..
Dear John, is the young journalist on GB news related to you as I think you share the same sir name?
Sorry. I don't know. I'm not a viewer of GB News..
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Steven is his name.
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES good taste John!!!
When was this interview ?
2014
Phil seems drunk.
Jet-lagged and on pain killers.. He had stopped drinking when this was filmed in 2014