King James Or M.J !? .. 'G.O.A.T' Debate With Shaq, Benny The Butcher Alicia Keys And more .. 👀🔥
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Jordan's Legendary status is Untouchable !!💥💥
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Exactly MJ🐐💯🔥🔥
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When was this filmed? Because one of the gentleman was talking about Lebron's Space Jam. Was this before that movie came out?
@@Apocalypse2031 If you take four years off from your job right now, you could work for 82 days straight too. Mike is a quitter. He quit for 2 years twice. That's four years of load management. Then he tried to be Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders but failed miserably in the "minor" league. At least Lebron stayed the course. Mike even quit once, in his own words, due to mental fatigue and burnout. Mental fatigue and burnout?! Mike is a soft nanny goat. And let's talk about the miracle shots of Steve Kerr and John Paxson. John Paxson hit the game winning shot in game 6 of the 1993 NBA finals to keep Mike from going to a game 7. Then Steve Kerr hit the game winning shot in game 6 of the 1997 NBA Finals to keep Mike from going to a game 7. They saved Mike's legacy. Steve Kerr was the most prolific 3 point shooter in the league. He shot 52.3 percent from 3 for a whole season. Steph Curry hasn't even done that. This is who Mike had. He was so good the great Gregg Popovich called him and he won 2 more chips without Mike. And let's talk about game 7 of the ECF against Indiana when Mike was stinking up the joint. Tony Kucoc took the game over and won it to send Chicago to the Finals. You think Mike didn't have help? He played with 4 HOF's and a HOF coach. Add himself and that's 6 HOF's. Mike is the only player in NBA history to play with a guy who is a Hall of Famer in 2 professional basketball leagues. Tony Kucoc is an NBA Hall of Famer and a FIBA Hall of Famer. And you talk about Lebron's Finals losses but don't mention Mike's playoff losses because he couldn't even make it to the Finals before Scottie got there. He got swept by Larry Joe Bird twice "in the first round" 🧹🧹, eliminated from the playoffs by Isaiah 3 times, gentlemanly swept by Milwaukee 3-1. That's 6 seasons off the top. Then he begged Chicago to get Dennis Rodman from San Antonio. The guy he couldn't beat in the playoffs 3 times, he begged to play with. That's some KD type shit. I'll give you this, Mike is on Mt. Rushmore. But Lebron is on Mt. Olympus alone. He's way above Mt. Rushmore.
LMFAO Alicia Keys is like is that even a question?! 😭😭😭
FACTS 💯
She’s a female I doubt she knows anything about basketball
@@HarlemPSGamerknows more than you!😂😂
That's why her voice cracked at the Superbowl
@@FIEFA22_kinda like LeBron’s game cracked in the finals against Dallas and last season versus Denver! 😂
0:23 alicia didn't hesitate 😂😂😂
No one should have… like, what are we doing here? This shouldn’t even be a question. 😂
I was wondering why others were. Either they don't know, don't show or don't care about what's going on in the game of basketball.
It's laughable.. really.. Also laughable how ppl automatically rank him ahead of Kobe too 😂
😂😂😂@@hansmransm8835
@@hansmransm8835cos they don't want to hurt his feelings and miss endorsement from LeBron
I’m from Cleveland. Jordan all day, everyday.
Then you are not from Cleveland cuz Jordan won't say anything to you, just like I'm from Detroit "ITS NEVER MJ DAY"
You not from Cleveland if Bron isn’t your goat foh
The metrics and accolades say MJ in almost every conceivable way. LeBron’s only real argument is longevity stats, but longevity stats never won a game much less a ring.
TRUEEEEEEEEEEE
FACTS 💯 Boss!
It’s insane how MJ on top of every advance stats. He really was dominating
Thing is they didn’t even play against each other so it’s not even a fair comparison. But to compare abilities Bron is the better passer and rebounder. Bron is the more versatile defender. Both are supremely athletic but Bron might be a little more athletic cause of his size, strength to go along with the speed and hops. MJ had more agility and fluidity, more polished offensive game and better on ball perimeter defender at his peak. Bron a better 3pt shooter while MJ the better free throw shooter. This isn’t going to make sense for many people but MJ was the better player but Bron is the better all around player
Longevity is made up. It hurts his career. 😊
12-3 ain’t bad it’s almost equivalent to Lebron championship games
So bron 12-3 in the finals?
lol hell no 4-6 it was joke cause only won’t 4 out of 10 championships
@@youugly2037 Just admit u don’t know the difference between 12-3 and 3-12 mane lol slow ahh dude man 😂😂😂😂
no one celebrates 2nd place only pageantry does that shit and Lebron is a diva, not an athlete! besides even if lbj makes It to the finals 12x and still loses, I'd still take that one memorable incredible superb win over a dozen finals losses! - 2011 Dallas Mavericks!
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Its tough choice because they are all GOATs. Greatest Of All Time vs Going On Another Team
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damn💀🤣🤣that's the first one i've heard
It not a rough choice when
People realize nobody is even close to Jordan resume
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Yeah and Jordan never played for the wizards and he put the whole team together in hopes to win another ring 😊😅😂… #delusional
People who took too long to answer are Lebron fans who didn’t want to admit shit but also didn’t want to lie
Lol true
Yeah like from Chicago so he really didn’t want to pick LeBron but you can tell he’s a huge LeBron fan
or friends with lebron
Bron blew it when he left Miami 2-2. It's no longer a conversation..
It’s call free agency it’s apart of sports, LBJ lad teams was never that bad to finish in the top 5 to draft a player like #5Pippen or have multiple 1st round picks #10 Horace Grant, BJ Armstrong #18, not to mention Orlando Woolridge was a good player he was their b4 MJ.
@@HarlemPSGameryou can discuss this with JJ Barea😂😂
@@HarlemPSGamer Kyrie Wade bosh AD Klove. 😂😂😂😂
coz he wants to fire the coach. P. Riley says, no can do....
thats the problem with players who jumped into the NBA after highschool.
They both took 7 to 8 years to win they first ring regardless of circumstances
Those two guys in the beginning acting like it’s such a tough choice 😂😂😂😂
Vince staples😂
@@seanliu6193 he’s a young buck
People thinking were just thinking of burning a lebron relationship bridge.
Alicia keys kept it gangster. She almost asking ‘you kidding me’
i bet lebron aint got her as the best r&b neither
Are you kidding
MJ will always be the GOAT no matter what Bron does
Period. Lebron fucked up too many times to get that title.
Pretty much. MJ All Day.
That’s what they don’t understand. That shit solidified. Bron can win 100 rings, break all records etc but still…..
You liar Bron has been a Goat for a long time that you have to bring MJ back in talks so we dont forget him
@@cosmasrealestateconsultant Jordan has never left the conversation. People just keep throwing LeBron back in there. Once your time has gone for you to show and prove you get more opportunities. Especially when the other guy is retired.
mj is like an institution. Even Lebron wouldn’t be mad we pick mj over him.
Sadly he actually would. He has spent so much time telling all of us (and himself) that he’s the GOAT because he really wants us all to believe it. As if we couldn’t see what MJ did with our own 2 eyes.
@@MDAce150he said it once
@@Someone-eb7js Where’s the clip? Never seen it. And was this before or after he called himself the GOAT?… Twice.
@@MDAce150 YOU show me all the clips where says he's the goat
@@Someone-eb7js ua-cam.com/video/BUqh7t-Aj3c/v-deo.htmlsi=lfhu49yA1NzSfTQP (Standby for the other one)
Bron wouldn't even be mad if he saw this, Bron said himself seeing Jordan was like seeing God himself. That says it all 🤷🏾♂️
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So yu telling me God is a hooper
Jordan for sure
MJ🐐🐐🏀✅🏀✅🏀
One kid, Benny who admitted he’s only choosing Bron for personal relationships (Bron listens to Benny on live sometimes) and a random lol MJ is clearly better than Bron
Jordan stans so insecure 😂😂😂
@@jaliancasey5409 Jordan “Stans” are just true basketball fans, who understand the game and likely life on a deeper level
@@The_GOE yeah I’m sure calling MJ the goat means you understand life 😂😂😂
@@The_GOE💯
@@jaliancasey5409hell no, on the other hand you seems to be the insure one🤣🤣🤣
I compare Lebron to Karl Malone, rock solid , above average but not as skilled as the best of all time , but able to stay consistent for a long time.
True 💯
The better debates and comparisons to lebron should be wilt, pippen or bird not jordan
this shouldnt be a debate
Jordan made me interested in basketball 👌
This the first video I've seen that it wasn't even close.
A cool clip, as always 👍
Professional editing ❤
There is no confusion it's Mike all day for me
Besides rings and stats.
MJ is still the GOAT. He elevated NBA to new heights, he raised the bar. Every one who loves basketball wanted to be like Mike.
His handles, his moves, his fadeaways, his dunks. He even made bald heads looked cool.. lol.
I definitely say Jordan
Vince is a vibe haha
Hey Guys. Can I watch this anywhere in full Time?
That's a good one 👏
Mj fame and effect are incredible.
No debate whatsoever, you have the Goat and the Foat.
MJ
Nore should’ve known Jeter was gonna pick Mike, he’s a Jordan brand athlete.
Two legends but i choose jordan
It aint a debate!!
Beans with the Miami Heat Beanie on saying MJ😅
Easiest question 🤣 😂
No flopers allowed in the GOAT conversation. Recruiter vs. competitor
That competitor retired on his team to go play a different sport… and his team did fine without him. Jordan had mfs around him to give him help bron had to do it himself bc he wasn’t blessed to go to a big market team
@@daesamaJordan retired because his father passed away….. instead of just chillin, he tried baseball in memory of his father…his teammates did great because he built them into elite players, y’all like to say he didn’t win until he got help, well, his teammates were scared of the dirty boy pistons, so he decided to instill a hard work ethic and dedication…just look at his teammates in 87,88,89,90, they lacked confidence and inexperience….imagine if he left the bulls and joined the pistons, that’s what your boy did!… He couldn’t make his teammates better so he bailed on them and televised it, what’s worse is that he colluded and conspired with his banana boat buddies to get together and form a Superteam! It’s all on UA-cam, you just got to look for yourself!
Stop it you know damn well players was flopping even back then
I would say Jordan because of his impact
Alicia Keys reaction was crazy!!!😅😅😅
That’s a dumb a$$ question😂😂😂 MJ!!!!!
Exactly MJ🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🔥🔥🔥
George mikan and wilt better
Lebron wears NBA jerseys with MJ's logo on it.....debate over.
Very True 🤣🤣💯
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Most satisfying interviews. I don't hate Bron it's just obvious
interesting question
lol it’s not even a discussion 😂
Jordan
bron trades players 3 times a year cause he needs more HELP! 21yrs & still hasnt matched Mj 6 chips, 6 mvp's & 10 scoring titles, what are we debating??💯
Lebron literally is the score king not to mention Jordan ain’t match bill russell. Clearly players don’t have to match each other to be better than one another
@@DJRonnyRon1200, the king of padded stats that goes with the longevity, not much of something to be impressed about.
@@DJRonnyRon1200 all time scoring dnt make u the goat it jus means u played longer 🤡😂😂😂😂
@@DJRonnyRon1200 we measure nba players by yr to yr awards and per game stats not all time longevity stats 🤡😂😂😂😂
@@kylonp7311 soooo. In what year was Jordan numbers better than lebron???
It should be MJ vs Kobe...
and it still would be MJ...
Unnecesary question, Jordan of course.
Greetings from Iquitos, Perú.
Jordan or ..... it's always Jordan
FACTS 😂
MJ all day
How you should of asked the question is how the order goes Jordan Kobe or LeBum 😂😂😂
This is not a debate
This is not a debate lol this is insane
Like we keep saying… there is no debate 🤷🏾♂️.
Shannon Sharpe is fuming throwing his phone all over the place after this video 😂 MJ will forever be the GOAT. 🐐
Shannon minding his own business being rich you creating fan fiction in your comments being broke
And u fuming when lebron is mentioned u no better than him
They both are in their own way period
1000% I say Jordan
MJ..and it ain’t even close!!!
Kobe Vs Jordan woulda been a more interesting debate
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What interesting it's obvious jordan on that debate
The Man That's Thinking MJ seeing this will take it Personal 😆😜😜♒
Like Mike, if I could be like Mike!!!!
To me Jordan I chose
Welcome to the Space Jam 🐂✈️👟
How can you pick one? Both 🥃
Notice when they answered. It is either is straight up quick answer JORDAN or a surprised look on their faces JORDAN like “wtf you seriously asking me this?” The ones that say Lebron has to pause and think about it. For the people born in the mid 80s (Millennials), we were blessed to see and witness MJs 2nd run with the bulls. We also got to witness Kobe’s greatness and Lebron. With that said, just the eye test alone it’s MJ. This generation that argues oh “Lebron had better competition,” is just asinine. MJ was just that far ahead that he made sure there wasn’t any competition to talk about. This is not a knock on Lebrons greatness because his whole body of work is amazing.
I like when Shaquille O' Neal, Cam'ron and Twista chose Michael Jordan. Word up.
Damn lechoke 😂
Never understood the debate. Both played different positions in different era. Jordan's the G.O.A.T. period.
Michael jordan ❤🏀
Vince from Chicago so it hurted him to say Bron 😂
They probably saying Lebron while at the same time wearing Jordans😂😂😂
Them type of ppl kill me and put his brand on daily .. LMAO
@@midwestkrazy83turner50 exactly 💯💯💯
That's a r3tard3d analogy that's like saying lebron's better than Grant Hill while wearing fila
Wale basing his answer off them knowing who he is or not 😂. Tf
All these guests probably have Jordan on their feet 😂
6 rings with one team for only 13 years vs 4 rings with 3 teams play for 20 years and still playing tell me who's the real goat?
MJ doesn’t have a losing record to any of his contemporaries. Steph Curry has a winning record against him.
Lebron is so big that some couldn't even pick...with that being said MOST of thr ppl asked are 45+ yo.... WE FINALLY HAVE A COMPETITION FOR MIKE!!
Better content than ESPN am I right?
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Kobe❤
How can you not be the GOAT when you are the most recognizable SPORTS figure WORLD MUTHFKN WIDE! Since the fuckin 80's !
This is not a debate lol
That Easy...
*MICHAEL JORDAN......*
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You can tell who has watched Jordan play
Mj hands down 🙌
It was strange that Scarface chose neither
Means his team nvr could beat Jordan and The Bulls and lost probably alot of money. I've heard stories from the past of that going on.
Not really there's a plethora of players that have goat like resume
Damn all you people
No contest here...
Debate is tried and pointless. Mfs been asking the same shit for 15 years and its the same answer everytime shit boring af
Apparently not boring if I can search MJ and Bron debates and see results. However you search Kobe vs MJ debates and see what you get... I'll wait.
Why did Alicia get upset when she answered? 😂
its not even comparable thats why
Because it's a stupid question
C'mon now? Some ppl just know real. 🤷🏿♂️
Because asking is an insult to real ones, real ones know! GOAT = MJ faux GOAT = Lebron
I say both
All the old school cats will say MJ, it’s like muscle memory to say that
Forget about statistics, NBA would not be global brand if MJ never existed.
Jordan!!!
Lebron vs wilt chamberlain would be a more interesting debate
It was a land slide
Would've been better to say Kobe vs Jordan
shaq didnt even think twice
Nobody will surpass the greatest shoe endorser ever!! I mean Jordan doesn’t have the most rings, MVP’s or points but no other sneaker will ever out sale the Jordans✅
Nobody picked him because of his sneakers. They picked him because he is the best and greatest at basketball
@@toriblaine3676 its a devil’s advocate statement. Basically what makes Mike the GOAT?? He doesn’t have the most rings, MVP’s , points, Rebounds etc., so what makes him the goat, other than opinions?
@reefb4364 He has the most finals MVPs, The most scoring titles, he has the highest ppg scoring average for a career, in season and playoff averages for a career, now if we wanna say finals MVPs weren't around when Bill Russell was there I get it, but Bill won half his rings in a league of 8-10 teams, then when he was in the playoffs, there were just a simple 8 teams! MJs bracket was 16 so you could almost say 1 MJ ring is 2 of Bills.
@@reefb4364 If you don't know what makes Black Jesus the GOAT then you have the IQ of Jameis Winston in Uber on his way to an Angry Crab Shack. He came into the league with the maniacal mental of killers in serial. And when it comes to elite athletes those with the stout mental fortitude are vastly superior to those with the feeble cerebral. Jordan's mental was as robust as his physical. Speaking of which, his muscle fibers twitched extremely fast. Faster than any NBA player I have ever seen. And I've seen them all in person, while in their primes. And that's why he was such a freakish athlete with insane reflexes, absurd hand-eye coordination, ridiculous bounce, hang-time, mid-air body control, quickness, explosiveness, agility, etc. Another very important factor is the fundamentals taught to him by a highly-esteemed Univ. dean. We have never witnessed another basketball player with MJ's raw athleticism and impeccable fundaments. And the best of the best noticed very early. After the very FIRST time Bird faced a rookie MJ he told a Boston Globe reporter "That guy is going to be the greatest ever. You just watch." And after just a couple of years in the league Magic said "There's Jordan then there's everybody else."
Russell has the most rings but he was carried by FIVE hall-of-famers offensively. For his career Bill averaged 16.5 ppg while shooting a pathetic .44% from the field. Only time MJ was carried was to the bench by Pippen during flu game. Kareem has one league MVP more than MJ. The first three he won in Milwaukee he had Big O as a teammate. Big O fed him and drew a lot of attention from defenders, allowing Kareem to see a lot of one-on-one coverage. Can't say that about MJ. He never had a teammate that demanded double-teams. NEVER! Then Kareem went to Lakers and played with Magic. Chamberlain averaged 30 ppg for his career but in the NBA Finals he only averaged 18.5 ppg. On the biggest stage he'd wilt. MJ also averaged 30 ppg for his career but in the Finals it went up to 33.6 ppg. Kareem and Wilt were too busy trying to get buckets to become defensive heathens. Not MJ. He's one of the best perimeter defenders all-time.
Another extremely important factor is the fear he instilled in foes and how that gave his teammates supreme confidence. Steve Kerr said it best "You were scared to death of him. He was the most dominant force on the floor in every regard. It wasn't just the talent - it was the force of will. People, opponents were defeated by Michael before they even walked on the floor. He made me way better. Not only from the standpoint of the traditional 'great player drawing attention,' and 'OK, they're going to double-team him, I'm going to be open.' That's the easy explanation. But it's more than that. It's don't be scared. It's like, you've got to compete. That's probably the biggest thing I learned from him, watching him, was he was just so fearless. He never shied away from the stigma that would come through failure. He understood fully that if he just went all out every single game and went for it on every single play, the positives would outweigh the negatives, but you just to have to live with the failure. It was unbelievable to be on his team, to be his teammate. And you had to accept that responsibility. You knew he was going to be harsh on you. You knew he was going to be tough on you, was going to talk trash to everybody in practice, test you. And his reasoning was: If you couldn't handle the trash talk in practice, there's no way you could handle the pressure of the NBA playoffs. It made perfect sense. He was right!" No other all-time great had this effect. ZERO!
Opinions? Isn't that what it comes down to? Majority of hall-of-famers (Cousy, West, Baylor, Bird, Magic, Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, Mutombo, Barkley, McHale, Kobe, Iverson, Nash, T-Mac, Wade, Ginobili, etc.) view him as the GOAT. Even today's best like Curry, Durant, Leonard, Tatum, Doncic, Lillard, Zion, Butler, Harden, Edwards, Ingram, LaVine, Mitchell view him as the GOAT. And I'll guarantee you that the majority of commentators here will say he's the GOAT. Like the great poet Reggie Noble once said "Case closed."
What MJ has done for the culture is unparalleled...
It's Mike all day...😅