When your petrol is so dirty, just pour it to a bottle, close it, and leave it for a couple of hours. Most of the dirt will go down to it's bottom, and if you pour the petrol gently to another bottle, or back to your cleaner, you can use it again with minimal waste. With this, I use the same about 2 litres of petrol for several years now.
actually if you dissolves things inside of course it will loose capacity of solvant nature because you are stocking it more and more full of other oils and waxes. you cannot expect it to last forever as a solvant this way.
a neat addition to this would be to glue a magnet under the bottom of the jar, so that the tiny steel particles that get washed away from the chain can not make their way back into the chain when shaking the container
@@bonkeydollocks1879 having metal particle is very normal for any metal mechanical things. even a car engine that is in perfect running condition will wear down metal in the oil. a bicycle chain is very delicate and consist of alot of pieces, it woudnt surprise me if it would be in more stress than a car engine.
@@Francois_Dupont yes, I am a mechanical engineer I realise this. It just seems a bit over the top but I understand the reasoning behind it. Where does it stop? Taking bearings out every 100 miles to clean and regrease?
I made my own chain cleaner.... with the infernal tube and the cif... I have added some neoirydium magnets on the base form the outside with duck tape... did catch most of the steel grindings... works perfectly... thanks mate!
Hi Oz , i have been watching DIY vdos on cycle maintenance , and specially the chain cleaning, and you have been by far the best in all the youtube channels that i have subscribed to ,i did make the chain cleaning container not exactly like yours but still made my own version for it , but what helped is the idea , the mesh was like a saving grace in the conatiner for cleaning smaller parts which can easily be lost or dropped, cut to the chase , i did it bought a 9 speed missing link, cleant the chain like you mentioned in your VDO and now my ridding is so smooth and effortless ..... A BIG BIG BIG THANK YOU > your the best teacher a double thumps up for you ...
Great idea - apart from the leaving it out to evaporate. I live in Scotland. I'd come back to a container full of rain water! All your vids are great by the way, thanks.
Great idea, thanks, will add the sieve to my Tupperware box that I use. I also liked one of the comments below suggesting the use of a protein drink shaker (with plastic sieve), so I will try that as well.
I use an empty plastic 1.5L beverage bottle, pour in Park Tools chain bright and drop in chain. Leave for a few hours, shake and pull chain back out, that also works wonders. The filings and dirt stay at bottom of the bottle, I pour out the clean chainbrite into a new 1.5L bottle and use again. For Cassettes I put them into a aluminum tin foil baking dish and use toothbrush and some chainbrite.
Thanks for this. I came up with a similar idea to this but this is a definite improvement on mine so I shall be making one (or several) of these. I don't think I'll be using petrol though; too volatile for my liking and I have plenty of cheap kerosene I can use instead.
I use brake fluide. Cleans my guns great too. After degreaser, I use CSC White Grease lubricant ($3.75). Quitest drivetrain I've ever had & last hundreds of miles.
@@SCAPE0GOAT it is not the same as silicone grease. White Grease is usually lithium based, it is considered a dry lubricant good for metal parts, it will not attract dust and grit. silicone is a synthetic gel good for lubricating plastic parts, or pivots/axles that have plastic spacers or washers in them. Typically it is used in plastic gear boxes or gear trains, common is appliances or in automotive window regulators. Plastic gears usually are not used on bicycles (not yet anyway).
Great sieve filter idea ! Old style conical paper coffee filters would clean all the crap out of your used degreaser to maximise life and keep costs down.
I have been using coffee filters to clean solvents for a while, the problem is that it takes a very long time and several filters to clean 1 cup (240ml)
I have used a similar process. I normally use Kerosene for the first clean and then Methylated Spirits for a second stage. These are a bit less dangerous than petrol.
I use a Finish Line chain cleaner with kerosene. Gasoline is volatile, and if you ever generated a spark while shaking it, you won't have to worry about your chain anymore.
i HOPE YOU ARE TEASING. While gasoline is a good cleaner. It is as you said dangerous to use. Far better SAFER is lighter fluid. Lighter fluid can be purchased in the smoking section-if stroes still sell lighters like ZIPPO. Or, you can buy it in the paint section as naptha or in the camping section as Coleman fuel..
For gasoline or naptha to ignite you have to have the correct flash point, gas vapor to oxygen mixture. In a container that small the vapor to oxygen will be too high to ignite. Kerosene will also burn, used in lanterns and jet fuel, and It does not evaporate so it will leave paraffin oil behind. I would say that naptha would be the best then mineral spirits / turpentine, they don't contain the unknown additives in gas that are probably really bad for you. Also naptha evaporates super fast. And good luck trying to get a chain to spark submerged in a liquid....
Suggestion re: quick link. Of course I do not have the proper tool. I bit of strong string inserted on each end of the rollers and tightened with a pair of pliers as a tourniquet and it opens the link easily with no damage to the chain or to the link.
I use meths as the solvent and instead of letting it evaporate I put a coffee filter into a funnel and run the used meths through it. The filter gets it clean again.
thank you for this trick. i got a motorcycle and here the roads are very dirty and salty. i use your trick but with an empty laundry detergent bottle (wide opening) and diesel because it is less harsh on the grease that is inside some chains. i am about to build a vacuum box in the future then i will be able to vacuum pack chains with grease or even wax.
i use cleaning Petrol in a Marmelade glas. after use i Keep it still Standing for a few days, the particles will drop down. you can take with a large Syringe the completly clean Petrol into another glas and wipe the dirt out. that way is better for enviroment.
thanks. i used a plastic folgers coffee tub that comes with the 1kg size of coffee. it has a screw on lid. i also had some chicken wire. i set a plactic cup cut in half with dremel inside the coffee tub set the chicken wire on top the plastic cup, some gas from the lawnmower gas can, viola chain is brand new. time to get some wax based lube. southern cali is dry and dusty.👍
Why not just throw petrol into big ol' ice-cream containers then give whatever you want the muck around with a brush? BOOM, this is the way we did it in the 60s!
maybe you need to do a vid on lubing a chain that has been cleaned in petrol or other strong hydrocarbon as opposed to a milder degreaser, in that the petrol will remove all lubricant from the chain not just external lube which is unnecessary and attracts dirt...cheers
First soak and rattle the chain in a can of gas. Then do the same in a can of gas with STP dissolved in the gas. Hang and let dry. Clean and lubed inside and out.
Paint thinner contain some small volume of organic solvents which will leave some residue film so as final step you should bathe your chain in IPA or acetone.
Hello! There's a problem using petroleum, as it's smell hangs around for two days, that will not do before going on a date. Would it be better to use a liquid for cleaning car fuel system? Does it smell less? Have you tried it? Also it would be cool to see whether a laboratory shaker will do more than hand shaking. Verry good vid! Thank you!
Awesome video! Do you know where to get a container like this? For the life of me I can't seem to find an appropriately sized container with an external thread so the screen can be inserted and removed easily. I tried a Sistema clip-top container but that leaks and the plastic doesn't like the pertrol as it has warped a lot. It does work awesomely to clean the chain though! Cheers
+JAMdiversified Try hardware store. A lot of jerry cans are plastic nowadays so its not an expensive plastic. A lot of greases come in nice plastic containers too.
I get free grease by wringing out the sweat from my clothes after every workout. When I've got enough of it, I then leave it in the sun to evaporate until I becomes a bit thicker. Then I use that to lube my chain. It works very well, you need about 60 workouts to lube one chain!
+James Shields No. I think mine is an old tupperware container,James. As long as the plastic isnt affected by petrol and the lid fits well it will be fine.
Thanks. I'm very glad I found your channel and really appreciate all of your work & experience. Please don't stop. By the way, what is your first name?
Just bought some muc-off drivechain cleaner which is £18/ litre, this looks way better. Before i take the drivechain cleaner back to the shop are there any areas of the drivechain that petrol CANT clean?
Puting some petrol in an empty container of marmalade (with a screw on cap), dunk the chain in, shake, leave it for 20 minutes, shake again, leave it for 20 minutes or overnight, dunk it in another similar container with degreaser in, leave it for a few minutes. Attach to bike and lube.
2 times per year that is how Clean the chain lol I take it out of the bike and leave it in a jar with kerosene ( motorcycle shops use it for chain cleaning). Got that Kerosene tip from a Pro Moto bike shop.
Servus from bavaria, Germany... please can you tell me a bit more what do you mean with Petrol - in Germany we have washing petrol, petrol for my car to drive and we have "Petroleum" what means kerosene...
I bought a new Shimano chain and put the chain in gasoline to remove the factory grease. After a good soak, I took the chain out and dried it with a rag. To my surprise, I saw that the rag became dirty from the chain. Have you seen that and what could that be? Is that from the inside of the chain or is the gasoline dirty?
Could be all the factory lube hasn't come out yet...do another petrol soak followed by degreaser then method. Can also be metal debris from manufacture.
I'm sure gas works but it's extremely dangerous to use both due to flammability and it's also highly toxic and carcinogenic. Gasoline is meant to power an engine. For cleaning a bicycle chain use chain cleaner.
Think this cleaner looks great to be fair! I just wondered what type of plastic you'd recommend using as i know some plastics have a better resistance to petrol than others.... What type of plastic are you using oz cycle? Any bad effects? Cheers!
+Tom Stringer I have no idea what "type" of plastic the container is made of Tom. A lot of plastics disolve with exposure to petrol...usually its the cheap,disposable types. All I can advise is try a container out with petrol in it before putting bike bits in it too. Cheers...Steven
Do you like the Wippermann Connex chain? I just ordered a 9SE for my 32kg rear motor fat ebike. I need the reliability, so I don't end up walking it home with a broken chain.
I noticed that there is some 'metal looking' edge around the sieve. It's not from just folding the sieve at the edge. It looks like solder. How did you make that?
I can understand the idea of getting the crap off the chains the manufacturers put on them, but molten wax is supposed to push contaminates and metal particles out of the chain. Doesn't that make continual cleaning like this obsolete?
A chain will always have some contaminants on and in it no matter what lube is used. A chain will be bathing in contaminated wax if not thoroughly clean before. immersion.
How well would alcohol work as an alternative to petrol/gasoline or kerosene? I have a highly sensitive respiratory system so alcohol would be nicer for me. Would it work as well?
+Nikolaj Andersen Thank you. Yes,plenty of DIY workstands out there but no decent ones. Difficult to make without welding gear. Hopefully viewers can help....got one good suggestion.
+Nikolaj Andersen Tried it and it was too flimsy. I also reinforce it with wooden broomsticks but then a T joint broke. 80mm plumbers PVC would be strong enough but then all the joints are just as expensive as a cheaper metal stand already available.
I tried acetone and it softened the couplers. Need to find some HPDE pipe or couplers. I had to order the plastic hpde containers from amazon. lol. Was thinking about making a video when I am all done.
Thank you for sharing this! In this video, do you use unleaded petro as a cleaner (light pink one)? I sometime bit worry how dispose those dirty used petro after cleaning. Do you have any idea? It's not good to through them out to sewage pipe... Or, use bit more environment friendly degreaser.
+Bunji Kawanishi You will get 3 to 4 uses out of 1 cup of petrol. When petrol is very dirty,put container out in an open area without the lid on and it will evaporate. Wipe out container of the dirt and your ready to go again.
Thank you for your advice! Bit worry about evaporate petrol since it goes out to air - I feel it's not good to environment. Anyway, will try couple of degreaser and find some good one! :-)
There's no way to be short-term environmentally friendly when getting rid of petrol. I tend to just send it off to the rubbish tip, it's all bad no matter what you do. The Earth will purify it back to nature over time, but that purification process involves pain, that is the only real cleanser, pain is the only true purifier in the universe.
Just a follow up question: Is the folded metal that I see around the sieve, from the sieve itself or from some another piece of metal? If the latter, what kind?
I used to do this. Im fl and we have sugar sand. I stopped doing this. Its not worth the extra work. Just clean everything offf the outside of a new chain. Use it utill it starts to grind and then replace it. Once it grinds the 3d bearings are gone anyway.
+Derek Tan Hi Derek.Petroleum and kerosene will work but still leaves a thin film of oil. Other chemicals work but can take a lot more time and repeated efforts....ie dishwashing liquid. You could use kerosene then finish it off with dishwashing or laundry liquid. Degreaser is best if you can get it,hardware or automotive shops.
When your petrol is so dirty, just pour it to a bottle, close it, and leave it for a couple of hours. Most of the dirt will go down to it's bottom, and if you pour the petrol gently to another bottle, or back to your cleaner, you can use it again with minimal waste.
With this, I use the same about 2 litres of petrol for several years now.
understandable, considering the gas price under obama
actually if you dissolves things inside of course it will loose capacity of solvant nature because you are stocking it more and more full of other oils and waxes. you cannot expect it to last forever as a solvant this way.
Excellent!
@@thedude4795 Obama has been president last 4 years?
Can filter solid out with covid masks (polypropylene)
a neat addition to this would be to glue a magnet under the bottom of the jar, so that the tiny steel particles that get washed away from the chain can not make their way back into the chain when shaking the container
+Francesco Basile Good idea,Francesco. I will try that out. Thank you.
Francesco Basile if you have metal particle from your chain you have a bit problem.....
@@bonkeydollocks1879 having metal particle is very normal for any metal mechanical things. even a car engine that is in perfect running condition will wear down metal in the oil. a bicycle chain is very delicate and consist of alot of pieces, it woudnt surprise me if it would be in more stress than a car engine.
A brand new bicycle chain sheds most metal initially. Once waxed there is very little wear as the parts have wax between them.
@@Francois_Dupont yes, I am a mechanical engineer I realise this. It just seems a bit over the top but I understand the reasoning behind it. Where does it stop? Taking bearings out every 100 miles to clean and regrease?
I made my own chain cleaner.... with the infernal tube and the cif...
I have added some neoirydium magnets on the base form the outside with duck tape... did catch most of the steel grindings... works perfectly... thanks mate!
Hi Oz , i have been watching DIY vdos on cycle maintenance , and specially the chain cleaning, and you have been by far the best in all the youtube channels that i have subscribed to ,i did make the chain cleaning container not exactly like yours but still made my own version for it , but what helped is the idea , the mesh was like a saving grace in the conatiner for cleaning smaller parts which can easily be lost or dropped, cut to the chase , i did it bought a 9 speed missing link, cleant the chain like you mentioned in your VDO and now my ridding is so smooth and effortless ..... A BIG BIG BIG THANK YOU > your the best teacher a double thumps up for you ...
+Patrick Anand Thanx Patrick.
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Thank you for the idea of using petrol. First time did try it on the chain inside a jar. It's so clean, one could put it around the neck! ;)
Wow!! Brilliant little contraption! Thanks for sharing! Top stuff!
Great idea - apart from the leaving it out to evaporate. I live in Scotland. I'd come back to a container full of rain water! All your vids are great by the way, thanks.
Haha....true. Greetings from Australia
Great idea, thanks, will add the sieve to my Tupperware box that I use. I also liked one of the comments below suggesting the use of a protein drink shaker (with plastic sieve), so I will try that as well.
I use an empty plastic 1.5L beverage bottle, pour in Park Tools chain bright and drop in chain. Leave for a few hours, shake and pull chain back out, that also works wonders. The filings and dirt stay at bottom of the bottle, I pour out the clean chainbrite into a new 1.5L bottle and use again. For Cassettes I put them into a aluminum tin foil baking dish and use toothbrush and some chainbrite.
Great idea! Also the "Look" frame is great, one of the best looking frames ever!!
Wot lub do U use, Cheers Graham
Thanks for this. I came up with a similar idea to this but this is a definite improvement on mine so I shall be making one (or several) of these. I don't think I'll be using petrol though; too volatile for my liking and I have plenty of cheap kerosene I can use instead.
It's nice to see that trevor is doing so well for himself.
I like to dry mine with a match.
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I use brake fluide. Cleans my guns great too.
After degreaser, I use CSC White Grease lubricant ($3.75). Quitest drivetrain I've ever had & last hundreds of miles.
Is that the same as silicone grease ?
@@SCAPE0GOAT it is not the same as silicone grease. White Grease is usually lithium based, it is considered a dry lubricant good for metal parts, it will not attract dust and grit. silicone is a synthetic gel good for lubricating plastic parts, or pivots/axles that have plastic spacers or washers in them. Typically it is used in plastic gear boxes or gear trains, common is appliances or in automotive window regulators. Plastic gears usually are not used on bicycles (not yet anyway).
@@Petros98223 Thanks for the advice.
Great sieve filter idea ! Old style conical paper coffee filters would clean all the crap out of your used degreaser to maximise life and keep costs down.
+ian Roberts Great idea...mite try the coffee fulter idea Ian,thanx.
I have been using coffee filters to clean solvents for a while, the problem is that it takes a very long time and several filters to clean 1 cup (240ml)
I have used a similar process. I normally use Kerosene for the first clean and then Methylated Spirits for a second stage. These are a bit less dangerous than petrol.
I use a Finish Line chain cleaner with kerosene. Gasoline is volatile, and if you ever generated a spark while shaking it, you won't have to worry about your chain anymore.
i HOPE YOU ARE TEASING. While gasoline is a good cleaner. It is as you said dangerous to use. Far better SAFER is lighter fluid. Lighter fluid can be purchased in the smoking section-if stroes still sell lighters like ZIPPO. Or, you can buy it in the paint section as naptha or in the camping section as Coleman fuel..
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Hell no he's not joking. He's Australian. I just thought, uh...I'll just use kerosene.
For gasoline or naptha to ignite you have to have the correct flash point, gas vapor to oxygen mixture. In a container that small the vapor to oxygen will be too high to ignite. Kerosene will also burn, used in lanterns and jet fuel, and It does not evaporate so it will leave paraffin oil behind. I would say that naptha would be the best then mineral spirits / turpentine, they don't contain the unknown additives in gas that are probably really bad for you. Also naptha evaporates super fast. And good luck trying to get a chain to spark submerged in a liquid....
We're Australian, we like to live on the edge. If dynamite did a better job we would use that instead :-)
You've all been watching too many Hollywood movies.
Even though I'm American, Keep doing what you do MATE, you are outstanding!
What does your comment have to do with being American?
Suggestion re: quick link. Of course I do not have the proper tool. I bit of strong string inserted on each end of the rollers and tightened with a pair of pliers as a tourniquet and it opens the link easily with no damage to the chain or to the link.
+Susan Siegel Nice one Susan....great idea!
Appreciate all the work you do to help us with our bikes.
I use meths as the solvent and instead of letting it evaporate I put a coffee filter into a funnel and run the used meths through it. The filter gets it clean again.
Thank you OZ Hacker!!! Your channel is one of my favorites! Good Luck!
thank you sir for disposing of the petrol in an ecological way. thank you for this video in general;)))
I tried this today. Worked like a charm. Thanks for the great tips and info. Please keep on making these vids. Greetings from the Netherlands, Steven.
thank you for this trick. i got a motorcycle and here the roads are very dirty and salty. i use your trick but with an empty laundry detergent bottle (wide opening) and diesel because it is less harsh on the grease that is inside some chains. i am about to build a vacuum box in the future then i will be able to vacuum pack chains with grease or even wax.
i use cleaning Petrol in a Marmelade glas. after use i Keep it still Standing for a few days, the particles will drop down. you can take with a large Syringe the completly clean Petrol into another glas and wipe the dirt out. that way is better for enviroment.
Always petrol to clean and next degrease. Nice video.
That pertains to any type of bicycle chain?
thanks. i used a plastic folgers coffee tub that comes with the 1kg size of coffee. it has a screw on lid. i also had some chicken wire. i set a plactic cup cut in half with dremel inside the coffee tub set the chicken wire on top the plastic cup, some gas from the lawnmower gas can, viola chain is brand new. time to get some wax based lube. southern cali is dry and dusty.👍
you could contain loose bearings in something like a tea ball. nice and secure.
I like that idea! Put in the tea ball then swish around fast in the liquid!
great tip thanks.
also didn't know you can use petrol so I'll be giving this a go
I would like to thank you for sharing your experiences it is much much appreciated :).
Can use disposable covid masks (polypropylene) to filter petroleum to extend solvent use
I just noticed that the sieve edges were bent down over something. Can you tell me more on how you did that and what you used? Thanks.
I cut a up a cheap sieve from supermarket. Where it attatches to the ring and handle it has a smear of silicone...I recon thats the edge you can see.
Nice tool - I'm going to make one. THANKS!
Thank you This hack helped me so much with my chain
Love this - thanks for sharing your ideas with us.
Awesome video.
Thanks for uploading.
you have to make a bigger one so you can clean rear cassette
+"Mr Mate" Z Good suggestion Mr Mate Z .
Why not just throw petrol into big ol' ice-cream containers then give whatever you want the muck around with a brush? BOOM, this is the way we did it in the 60s!
Petrol melts most modern plastics....do a test first
Shit! Yeah they don't make em like they used to, thanks for the heads up.
And an even bigger one for the chain rings. Next.....cut down a 44 gallon drum for the wheels.
maybe you need to do a vid on lubing a chain that has been cleaned in petrol or other strong hydrocarbon as opposed to a milder degreaser, in that the petrol will remove all lubricant from the chain not just external lube which is unnecessary and attracts dirt...cheers
+John Beedham Good sugestion John,I will put that on the list. Cheers....Steven
Very clever, simple and effective idea for chain cleaner. Lets do this...
Subscribed here from the uk great tip with the stainless sieve thanks
looks good. But why do we need that pvc tube inside? is that just for holding the sieve?
Holds the sieve away from dirt that falls to the bottom.
First soak and rattle the chain in a can of gas. Then do the same in a can of gas with STP dissolved in the gas. Hang and let dry. Clean and lubed inside and out.
I done this last week boy it works well :-) top tip
I love this DIY chain cleaner, but I don't understand the point of the poly pipe or the wire strainer?
+XDM50 Dirt falls thru the strainer to the bottom of the container keeping the item in a cleaner solvent.
Oh, I see! Thanks mate! :)
Paint thinner works good also.
Paint thinner contain some small volume of organic solvents which will leave some residue film so as final step you should bathe your chain in IPA or acetone.
where do you find a plastic container of this size?
Hello! There's a problem using petroleum, as it's smell hangs around for two days, that will not do before going on a date.
Would it be better to use a liquid for cleaning car fuel system? Does it smell less? Have you tried it?
Also it would be cool to see whether a laboratory shaker will do more than hand shaking.
Verry good vid! Thank you!
Awesome video! Do you know where to get a container like this? For the life of me I can't seem to find an appropriately sized container with an external thread so the screen can be inserted and removed easily. I tried a Sistema clip-top container but that leaks and the plastic doesn't like the pertrol as it has warped a lot. It does work awesomely to clean the chain though! Cheers
+JAMdiversified Try hardware store. A lot of jerry cans are plastic nowadays so its not an expensive plastic. A lot of greases come in nice plastic containers too.
I get free grease by wringing out the sweat from my clothes after every workout. When I've got enough of it, I then leave it in the sun to evaporate until I becomes a bit thicker. Then I use that to lube my chain. It works very well, you need about 60 workouts to lube one chain!
Great idea man i will defenitly try it thank you genius
I use naptha and a large pickle jar. But I like this setup.
do you have a suggestion on the type of container that you have used specifically? like what container did you use
+James Shields No. I think mine is an old tupperware container,James. As long as the plastic isnt affected by petrol and the lid fits well it will be fine.
macgyver be like. great stuff mate.
Thanks. I'm very glad I found your channel and really appreciate all of your work & experience. Please don't stop. By the way, what is your first name?
Glad you like the vids 😁. My name is Steven. You can find me on Facebook and Instagram too if you like. So your name is Ron?
Yes. Ron OnYourLeft ;-) Just bought a Crock Pot and now looking for the rest of the items to begin waxing my chain.
Just bought some muc-off drivechain cleaner which is £18/ litre, this looks way better. Before i take the drivechain cleaner back to the shop are there any areas of the drivechain that petrol CANT clean?
Silly question, what is petrol? Is it the petrol sold at your local petrol station? Where cars go to fuel up.
Yes , unleaded
you are a BOSS. nice work!. 1:20 not up to date on my Australian language. Texter?
Nice Trick that was, thank you very much for that.
Hi, i have one question, i heard that kerosene is good for cleaning, and using it., but you are using petrol (gasoline), which one is better ?
I've been using a plastic jar filled with methylated spirit but the sieve is a great addition.
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Puting some petrol in an empty container of marmalade (with a screw on cap), dunk the chain in, shake, leave it for 20 minutes, shake again, leave it for 20 minutes or overnight, dunk it in another similar container with degreaser in, leave it for a few minutes. Attach to bike and lube.
I'd put a little petrol in the jar, mix it in with the marmalade, then spread it on my toast for breakfast. What a great good-morning wake up call!
Thx for your video!! Should i use glass instead plastic?
Yes you can. Be careful not to crack the glass jar when shaking with a chain in it tho.
2 times per year that is how Clean the chain lol I take it out of the bike and leave it in a jar with kerosene ( motorcycle shops use it for chain cleaning). Got that Kerosene tip from a Pro Moto bike shop.
Great little cleaning tool.
awesome advice, thanks for sharing
what do you think about using acetone instead of petrol? is it worse for the environment? i know it evaporates pretty quickly...
Yes acetone will work fine e too....keep a lid on the container as it evaporates fast
Interesting... Never seen red tinted fuel. Ours tends to have an amber or lightly bluish tint.
+John Phillips Red for danger?
Servus from bavaria, Germany... please can you tell me a bit more what do you mean with Petrol - in Germany we have washing petrol, petrol for my car to drive and we have "Petroleum" what means kerosene...
Petrol for the car
Thanks we chain want even dirty!! IM gonna stick with my park tool and much off chain cleaners
Great video mate. I'm off to buy a sieve!
I bought a new Shimano chain and put the chain in gasoline to remove the factory grease. After a good soak, I took the chain out and dried it with a rag. To my surprise, I saw that the rag became dirty from the chain. Have you seen that and what could that be? Is that from the inside of the chain or is the gasoline dirty?
Could be all the factory lube hasn't come out yet...do another petrol soak followed by degreaser then method. Can also be metal debris from manufacture.
Would you use similar method to clean rear derailleur (which can get REALLY messy) or is there a reason not to? Ie not to soak it in solvent?
Awesome .. simply and effective
I'm sure gas works but it's extremely dangerous to use both due to flammability and it's also highly toxic and carcinogenic. Gasoline is meant to power an engine. For cleaning a bicycle chain use chain cleaner.
Thank you so much m8, really helped me
Evaporative emission. but I'd still do it.. Nice vid.
Think this cleaner looks great to be fair! I just wondered what type of plastic you'd recommend using as i know some plastics have a better resistance to petrol than others.... What type of plastic are you using oz cycle? Any bad effects? Cheers!
+Tom Stringer I have no idea what "type" of plastic the container is made of Tom. A lot of plastics disolve with exposure to petrol...usually its the cheap,disposable types. All I can advise is try a container out with petrol in it before putting bike bits in it too. Cheers...Steven
I'll give it a whirl and yeah, try it out first. Thanks for the help, can't wait to clean that dirty chain!!!
Do you like the Wippermann Connex chain? I just ordered a 9SE for my 32kg rear motor fat ebike. I need the reliability, so I don't end up walking it home with a broken chain.
I noticed that there is some 'metal looking' edge around the sieve. It's not from just folding the sieve at the edge. It looks like solder. How did you make that?
The seive is just a cheap one from supermarket,the edge is folded metal
Is the folded metal from the sieve itself or from some other piece of metal? If the latter, what kind?
I can understand the idea of getting the crap off the chains the manufacturers put on them, but molten wax is supposed to push contaminates and metal particles out of the chain. Doesn't that make continual cleaning like this obsolete?
A chain will always have some contaminants on and in it no matter what lube is used. A chain will be bathing in contaminated wax if not thoroughly clean before. immersion.
How well would alcohol work as an alternative to petrol/gasoline or kerosene? I have a highly sensitive respiratory system so alcohol would be nicer for me. Would it work as well?
Yes alcohol should work fine Aaron, its just more expensive.
Good video again. REQUEST: DIY bike repair stand. :-)
+Nikolaj Andersen Thank you. Yes,plenty of DIY workstands out there but no decent ones. Difficult to make without welding gear. Hopefully viewers can help....got one good suggestion.
oz cycle Could the idea with customised PVC pipes be useful?
+Nikolaj Andersen Tried it and it was too flimsy. I also reinforce it with wooden broomsticks but then a T joint broke. 80mm plumbers PVC would be strong enough but then all the joints are just as expensive as a cheaper metal stand already available.
Good idea gasoline pretty powerful
I just made another one, this time out of 2x 3 inch pvc couplers, Larger inner diameter and also cheaper than buying an 8 foot pipe.
Nice. You should go into production and selling of them 😁
I tried acetone and it softened the couplers. Need to find some HPDE pipe or couplers. I had to order the plastic hpde containers from amazon. lol. Was thinking about making a video when I am all done.
Yes,definitely do a vid on it for the benefit of those who live where these hdpe bits are hard to come by 😁
Thank you for sharing this! In this video, do you use unleaded petro as a cleaner (light pink one)? I sometime bit worry how dispose those dirty used petro after cleaning. Do you have any idea? It's not good to through them out to sewage pipe... Or, use bit more environment friendly degreaser.
+Bunji Kawanishi You will get 3 to 4 uses out of 1 cup of petrol. When petrol is very dirty,put container out in an open area without the lid on and it will evaporate. Wipe out container of the dirt and your ready to go again.
Thank you for your advice! Bit worry about evaporate petrol since it goes out to air - I feel it's not good to environment. Anyway, will try couple of degreaser and find some good one! :-)
There's no way to be short-term environmentally friendly when getting rid of petrol. I tend to just send it off to the rubbish tip, it's all bad no matter what you do. The Earth will purify it back to nature over time, but that purification process involves pain, that is the only real cleanser, pain is the only true purifier in the universe.
Just a follow up question: Is the folded metal that I see around the sieve, from the sieve itself or from some another piece of metal? If the latter, what kind?
Another piece of metal...stainless
Why do you need the two pieces of PVC pipe? Couldn’t you just cut the sieve so it fits in the container better?
This is an old version Andrew,there is an updated chain cleaning method now.
oz cycle is that the one with the three containers? Petrol, degreaser and metho?
Yes
Why the hell I didnt see this earlier?
I have to try this. Super nice and informative videos mate😁
Cant wait to check out the rest
The only downside is the petrol also gets in to the inside of the links and washes away the oil from there! Chains will wear much faster!
+rkan2 Yes petrol does that so it is necessary to bath the chain in lube or wax for complete lubrication. Please see the waxing chain video.
does it safe for the chain?
will it fragile the chain?
if all no, i'll try it now
Instead of petrol/gasoline, can I use dishwasher liquid instead?
Not strong enough
I used to do this. Im fl and we have sugar sand. I stopped doing this. Its not worth the extra work. Just clean everything offf the outside of a new chain. Use it utill it starts to grind and then replace it. Once it grinds the 3d bearings are gone anyway.
The lubricant inside the chain should be as clean as possible. On the outside of the chain it doesnt matter.
Nice vid, thanks. What alternatives can be used for degreasing? Is Kerosene effective? Other options?
+Derek Tan Hi Derek.Petroleum and kerosene will work but still leaves a thin film of oil. Other chemicals work but can take a lot more time and repeated efforts....ie dishwashing liquid. You could use kerosene then finish it off with dishwashing or laundry liquid. Degreaser is best if you can get it,hardware or automotive shops.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. It's great that there are better D.I.Y alternatives that being a slave to bicycle industry products.
denatured alcohol works great. It cuts the gunk and dries really fast
thanks for the great video
does the gasoline/petrol thoroughly get all the gritty feel in the chain when you twist the chain? thank you.
Yes it thoroughly cleans chains inside and out but needs to be followed by a degreaser as petrol leaves an oily film.
Excellent!
Hi! I'm looking a, channel like your but for mountainbike. Do you know any? Thanks in advance.
How long does it take for the petrol to evaporate?
Smart. I don’t like for petrol to touch me skin.
Hi Steve, what was the 100mm diameter container originally for? Not too many household items come in a nice tidy solvent-proof container like that.
+trailgumby Sorry no idea trailgumby. I think it came from a secondhand shop.
oz cycle no worries 😎