As someone who has family members who are evangelical, these seem to be very progressive evangelicals. If there was a spectrum Midwest or southern version of evangelicals the views would be drastically different. I’m curious to see if there would be a bigger difference with younger people from region to region.
@@isirlaughsalot2675 there is a difference between beliefs that are okay to disagree about and still be a Christian. There are some beliefs that if you don’t have make you not a Christian. There are openhanded issues and close handed issues in Christianity, and not repenting of sin is a closed handed issue. Thanks tho
@@isirlaughsalot2675 saying you are a Christians isnt enough, living a godly life is evidence that you are saved. “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’” Matthew 7:21-23 ESV
@@Crankingforthekingdom I’ve heard pastors who are similar to Alyssa viewpoint wise. None of them mentioned Roe v Wade though or similar topics. Not all of the pastors were young either.
It would have been interesting if they actually got evangelicals from the south and not just California cause most evangelicals are not like most of them.
@@realrareap2420 I would say that Christianity has many traditions and evangelicalism is one protestant stream of it, dominant in the US and other western countries.
How do you know that most evangelicals are not like the ones that they interviewed in this video? Generalizations are very harmful, especially when talking about such a large cohort of individuals.
@Lord Submissive In my opinion, to speak is to act. No one goes on riots and wars or collective efforts and adventures trips without having heard stories before and get inspired from them.
I'm surprised people aren't talking about Alyssa. She is very understanding and see how, even though she is set in her Christian beliefs, that is not a reason to cause harm to the rest of the world
Would be interesting to see Jubilee interview folks from the Dharmic religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism) in America. Would be great to have that representation as well as diversity in thought!
You can tell Angel has come a very long way in the last year, especially in terms of stepping more into himself as a gay person. I like that he's starting to question things that he might have thought were black and white before, and I hope he continues that growth.
As an atheist, I must say the ladies and Angel were some very liberal Christians. I also like how they were very well spoken and how they approached these questions objectively. Also really like how Angel is a listener and is so guided by empathy and openness that he is also able change his mind when confronted with new information that may goes against his previously held view.
@@tangytanger1ne you should watch their conservative vs liberal (or maybe it’s progressive?) Christian’s video. Angel and Jason are in it as well. The Christian’s on the liberal side are more progressive than this bunch imo.
I've been a Christian for 20+ years and they said nothing new to me. They are more liberal than the LOUDEST Christians, but not more liberal than the AVERAGE Christian.
Women can’t be pastors, the reason why you liked Alyssa is because she appeals to the world. You know someone is not a real Christian when they are championed by non Christian
I grew up Catholic and one thing my family taught me is to never trust someone just because they can quote the bible. Even the devil can quote the bible, he knows it well because he was once an angel.
I clicked on this video because I recognized Angel from a previous video years ago where he was claiming homosexuality was a sin to be essentially "prayed out". It's amusing to see him go from "I can control the gay" to 3:44 "I'm gay!". But most importantly, I'm happy for him no longer trying to suppress that side of himself
As a prior church kid what this video has shown me is Evangelicals are moving away from the word (bible) in which they claim to follow and creating a version of it to best fits their needs. Which isn't fair to nonbelievers, people should be rightfully informed on what they're getting into so they can make a proper decision. The fact that only one person stood in Strongly Agree when asked if Christianity is the only path to Salvation is a indication of this.
absolutely. this video was infuriating. makes me so sad to see "Christians" like this. However, I think majority of them are from LA, so it makes a lot of sense.
Yes! When I saw only one person go to the strongly agree on that prompt it made my heart hurt. How a Christian cannot strongly agree to that makes me question if they truly know what the gospel is.
If you identify as a Christian and don’t strongly agree that Christianity is the only way to salvation, something is wrong with your interpretation of the gospel.
I’m glad he’s a pastor that speaks biblical truth. these “progressives” want to conform their beliefs in what society wants to hear. Matthew 17: 13-14 is what comes to mind watching Jason speak his faith.
Actually you can, there a tons of different christianity religions. Each take what parts of the bible they want to follow and which ones they don’t want. If the bible was easy to understand then there wouldn’t be this many types of christianity
I don’t think they’d consider it “loose.” They said look at it in context - consider the many different authors, translating different languages, different cultures and times, different genres. All of that matters. So when the Bible tells us something like don’t eat shrimp or wear mixed fabrics, we don’t literally do that; we try to understand the meaning that was intended.
I wholeheartedly concur with your viewpoint and commend Jason for his brave stance in upholding the tenets of the Holy Bible, while remaining open-minded towards the perspectives of those who may not fully comprehend its teachings. ✝️📖🙏
I am an atheist watching this, so take it for what it's worth. Some folks in the video wondered why LGBTQ+ people would often not feel safe in Christian spaces. But a lot of the time in the video is spent debating whether or how or why being LGBTQ+ is wrong. So, why would an LGBTQ+ person feel safe in a space where that topic is debated - is their existence wrong, or is it only that they choose to act on their existence? Put it this way: if there was a space where a LOT of time was spent debating whether Christianity is wrong, a mental defect, naive, or benign - even if they decide after all that discussion that it's benign, Christians won't likely feel comfortable in that space. Why? Because no one wants to be in spaces where their acceptance is constantly debated.
It's not LGBTQ peoples existence that's being debated. You guys exist (clearly and obviously). What's debated is whether acting upon a desire a person has that's wrong makes it a sin or simply having that wrong desire in the first place. The act of being with someone of the same sex is wrong and sinful. But so is adultry between straight people. So the debate in the latter case would be whether a person is wrong simply for having the desire to commit adultry and cheat on their spouse or whether its only wrong if they act upon that desire.
@@authorjoannawhite Well why else should something be considered wrong or "sinful"? For example, I can fully understand why adultery could be seen as wrong as it can cause demonstrable harm. Can't see how the same is true of homosexuality
@@authorjoannawhite, Even with your clarification, I can understand why LGBTQ people would not want to be in Christian spaces. Let's do the reversal I talked about in my earlier comment. You are Christian and you are thinking about whether you feel comfortable in x space. X folks are having endless debates not about whether Christians exist, but whether it is immoral or wrong for them to act on their abberant faith. Not whether believing in Christ is wrong in itself, but whether acting on that abberant belief is worthy of condemnation. But yet, they tell you "You are safe here. We love you! We really do! You can't help being that way. We just don't want you to act on who you are at your very core." That wouldn't make you eager to be in x space, would it?
I'm Mexican as well who's a Christian and I believe they're are more like new era type of christians that try to fit their ideas into the gospel when it's the other way around. The only one that seems to believe what the bible says and not what they think what the bible says is Jason.
as someone who used to be christian, i like people like kayli. individuals like kayli make me happy that people like her exist in the evangelical faith.
It feels like these Christians are trying to sell Christianity to people or they're trying to sweet talk people into the faith. If they can't accept our beliefs as it is than let those people live their life their way and find out the truth in the end. No other spiritual practices changes their beliefs to appease the unbelievers. We shouldn't have to either.
I don’t agree at all I feel like there’s a difference between cultures when it comes to receiving Christianity. As we move forward in modern times peoples perceptions of how Christians dealt with certain things in the past are going to change and how they choose to deal with things in the present will also change. That along with how they interpret the Bible and God‘s intentions. Plenty of Religions change how they used to be especially in western areas as we become more accepting and continue to live amongst one another
I'm fascinated by Alyssa. She's so calm and seems to be really understaning. I really like the way she talks too, she gets her points without being aggressive; what she says just comes out as super clear beacuse she seems to be very informed about what she's talking about and to care about what she has to say, her message.
yeah me too. like she so clearly has put deep thought into everything she believes and viewed it from a very critical lens and she expresses it in words beautifully.
I’m so glad that a lot of Christians are deconstructing from that Western Evangelical Christianity that comes out of the South. You can have a relationship with Yeshua without that label.
Who is this Alyssa girl and how can I help amplify her voice??!! Every single thing she said, advocating for LOVE above all else, empathy, understanding, compassion, humility.. this is what we need more of in this world! Girl, if you opened your church please share details! and KEEP OF SPEAKING!
She is. However, from most evangelicals perspective they feel an urgency to preach about sin, repentance, salvation, also. She is on the more progressive side.
John 14:6!!!! I'm supprised for the first question they were not all in strongly agree. Reguardless of what you wrestle with as a Christian or whether you you born in a place that makes it likely for you not to become a Christian, as Christians we belive that there is only ONE way and ONE truth and ONE life, nothing else can lead to salvation.
It's a more nuanced discussion than you let it out to be, as you said what about the people who have never heard of christ or lived in a culture that was so departed from that? Would they be condemned or be saved? There may be some leeway there as christianity is not the predominant religion in every country
Not a great representation. Most Evangelicals very much disagree with homosexuality, abortion, & women in pastoral/elder roles. Time to move outside of urban hubs Jubilee!
No one in the Roe v Wade part has anything to say about whether it was actually the correct legal decision for the Supreme Court to be making. They made it about their personal pro-life/pro-choice stances. The Supreme Court's job is to rule based on the language of the Constitution and the precedents it sets. They are judges, not lawmakers. If you want to talk about which laws should be in effect either at a state or federal level, that's a different conversation than whether the Supreme Court is making rulings based off accurate interpretations of what the Constitution says. People are consistently confused about this and I wish the media would do more to clear it up, rather than just continue to stir the pot and profit off the resulting chaos.
Becuase the entire video is focused on the lenses of evangelicals, not lawyers. I don’t expect evangelicals to discuss what’s the meaning of “liberty” in the Constitution.
@@isaacng123456789 but the question itself had nothing to do with being evangelical. it was weird to ask. should’ve been about pro-choice/pro-life maybe but not what was asked.
And the truth is there is basis for overtuning Roe v. Wade then which is also something the media will not say. These laws need to passed through congress. I believe RGB herself eluded to this as well.
Exactly! While I am a pro-life Christian and I believe the overturning of Roe is something to be celebrated because I truly believe it was God’s hand working, the Supreme Court didn’t do this of their own religious/non religious views of abortion. They are going by what actions our constitution says to do. If they wanted to codify Roe, they had almost 50 years to do it.
@@ashleyholder2218 they most certainly did it because of their own religious views. theyre most conservative. u think thats a coincidence? most abortions are done during the first trimester. and some even earlier. and what about zygotes? are those babies or are they sex cells that have yet to be babies? is a fertilized chicken egg a chicken? especially if you can't even tell there is a zygote there?
They don’t even call themselves Mormon anymore. It’s now “lds” but yeah I would volunteer for this as well. Grew up in utah and happy to be out of the state and that church
It’s videos like these that make me very curious to see the responses of people in other regions. I’m a Christian from the south, and I know plenty of individuals who would give a different answer to a lot of these prompts from a lens of theology, life experience and academia in a very articulate way. I know that Jubilee is only based in LA, but I think the overall message of being more human would have a deeper reach of more perspectives from different parts of the country were represented.
I think he still believes acting on it to be a sin but having that attraction is not sinful, however I also don’t want to speak for him so I’m not sure
I wish there was a question on mission trips! I’d be interested to hear their opinion to see if they acknowledge the negative effects it can end up having on communities. As a former evangelical I often had quarrels in the church with what I now understand it as a form of modern day colonialism. Coming in and out of childrens lives so quickly can cause abandonment issues as well as poor self-worth due to the constant comparisons and rhetoric. Not to mention misconduct that can often happen with power/age dynamics. Even the more progressive evangelicals often refuse to acknowledge the white saviorism complex that occurs in their churches.
that would've been a great topic to touch on! it sucks that the same 5-6 topics are recycled in these kinds of videos when there are so many other interesting ones that are hardly discussed.
There are real missionaries that stay and live in these communities amongst the people for years or decades but those are few are far between. Most are quick week long trips which are definitely outdated and harmful
There are certainly harmful ways to do mission trips but thats not the majority. There are a ton of ways for the local church to support missions. The first is to help train and equip the people in that country/area so that they can do their own ministry. The second is sending out long-term missionaries and planting churches. For short-term missions (which is what you primarily referred to), you partner with missionaries/organizations that are already established wherever you are going, that way you can support something thats already well established within the community. My church does all of the above, as well as every church within our network. As for it being “colonialism” I find that comment curious as its usually made by people fully support (and often partake) in modern day colonialism which is pushing Western ideas onto other cultures via the internet/media. Because of the internet we dont need to travel to countries to colonize them with our culture/ideas, and so much of the world that doesnt share western culture ideology is significantly more poor, significantly more happy and also very late to internet/media. Because of that, primarily progressives look down on these cultures because they have much more conservative lifestyle views, primarily in areas of race, gender and LGTBQ. I certainly dont agree with all of those ideas (polygamy, incest, and sleeping with minors are also cultural things Ive seem in different parts of the world), but technically if you come into their culture and tell them to do anything otherwise then your colonizing them. And if you think “but thats our moral imperative” congratulations- your a colonizer :)
@@5xmasterx548 apparently lol, impoverished communities are being helped during these mission trips but apparently people think it’s more beneficial to just call people colonizers online and do nothing in the real world
Jason is clearly the only one courageous to tell the absolute truth. Idk if the others were just too scared to say how they really feel or if that’s how they really feel. If they truly felt that way there’s a problem lol
Progressive Christianity this is an example watering down Gods word to be liked/fit in more but as Christian’s we are told to be different as this world is not our home heaven is
Why are you acting like Christianity hasn't been changed constantly since it's founding? The Bible is riddled with contradictions and provable changed texts to fit the mainstream belief at the time.
Bible: defines gender roles Bible: there is no difference in gender or class ... We're all equal "Should the Bible be interpreted literally?" Most of the group: agree Me: Confused how to interpret previous two conflicting statements.
By reading the whole chapter and seeing who the verse is spoken by, to, where, and when. The scripture taken out of Deuteronomy is specifically for Ancient Israelites before the time of Christ when they were bound under the law. The second verse is out of the New Testament after Christ has come and fulfilled that law, now breaking the grip it had and freeing the Israelites (and rest of the world) to live in freedom, by grace. Context context context.
You can be equal in gender in class and still have a different role to do. People assume that one role is better than the other and so they want the other role that was not assigned to them.
that girl questioning why we don't feel safe in the church - the answer is so obvious. why would any of us want to be around people who truly believe that our existence is a sin?
should've asked them if they agree w the death penalty and immediately have followed it up with whether they agree on abortion... I bet their logic would evaporate into thin air
I'm tearing up, I'm so happy to see Angel in this video. Seeing him in the Liberal vs Conservative Christians video, you could tell he was so conflicted in his identity in the name of religion. It's wonderful how he realized he can still have his faith while being who he is ♡
@@jonmarkbeatty he obviously didn't give up his beliefs or he wouldn't have been in the video. Christianity is it's own culture so I'm sure that's not what he was trying to "fit in" with. It's people like you that made him ashamed to be his true self in the first place
I had no idea this is the same Angel from Liberal Christians vs Conservative Christians! He seems like a whole new person and so much more free! I'm glad he could finally accept himself.
@@Noa...... Since always? Isn't that what words and definitions are for? Someone can identify as something all they like, but they aren't then shielded from criticisms of the truthfulness of that label as it applies to them.
@@constanzzcheng5377 Because none of this "Christians" are actually Christians, they're just a bunch of liberals using twisting Christianity to spread their liberalism.
Don’t be! I’m a Christian but it was clear that with the exception of Jason, they got a bunch of progressive Christian’s & called them evangelicals. So not really a fair video but I guess that’s what’s going to happen if you only have people from LA
@@HopeWren I think it's terrible that they represent us this way. I think Jubilee is awfully stereotypical when picking people to come talk for especially anyone Christian. This makes people think that Evangelicals are like this. I think if Jubilee should take these responsibilities far more seriously!
seeing the progress Angel has made over the few years since the first video i saw him on actually made me cry. he seems to simultaneously be more comfortable with his sexuality AND he seems to has strengthened his faith. im so happy for him
Regarding pro life or pro choice, why do Christians feel the need to impose their religion on people of other religions with different beliefs? Genuinely asking
exactly! abortion is a much more open subject in other religions like Islam, Hindusim and Judaism so the overturn of Roe v Wade violates freedom of religion.
If you genuinely believe something is the equivalent of taking a life, you will fight to prevent it (I think 99% of people would agree to this). A lot of people who are pro-life believe abortion is exactly that. I don't think Christians view it as a religious stance but more so a fundamental stance, if that makes sense. Case in point, there are a lot of non-Christian pro lifers out there. I understand the frustration and/or confusion though, it's sticky business :/
Jubilee selected progressive Christians and said that they were “evangelical Christians” because they realized that no true Bible believing Christians would disagree on these topics
I wish this was a long video because not everyone talked and would’ve loved to see this as more of a conversation piece than a “Spectrum” video, and would love for y’all to travel or fly people out to get others opinions
Normally I don't watch these kinds of high production, social reality show-esque videos, but the way in which this channel takes groups of people with differing opinions on controversial topics (not just in Middle Ground) and makes them debate those opinions with respect and patience is admirable.
these evangelicals are all progressive, even jason is probably more progressive than your average evangelical, this clearly does not represent their group and is kinda misleading
it's not misleading at all, of course these few people won't be able to represent the entirety of evangelicals. it's up to you to take their individual viewpoints as exactly what they are and realize that they're only representing themselves. 🤔
I was in the last of these two videos (Spectrum Christians) where I met Jason. I also went to college with Alyssa - we had the same major! I’m encouraged that Jubilee included more of the conversation regarding theology but disappointed that they once again centered the conversation about LGBTQ+ people instead of covering other topics that don’t get as much airtime, although this conversation seemed slightly more productive, if less direct.
@@Crayziebone17 no Jason is the only one who actually is speaking the truth from God's word. Other "evangelicals" there still cherry pick some Bible verses just to fit with what the world says.
I'm sooo proud of Angel and how far he's come, you can tell how much he's thought about his beliefs and his identity regarding them. He genuinely seems a lot happier now, and the way he's so open-minded to new and reasonable information is amazing to see.
Jubilee, the amount of progressive evangelicals in this video is appalling. As someone that literally attends an Evangelical Theological Society every year, this is not representative of Evangelicals. I applied to be in this video, and I didn't get any response. Please try to diversify these videos.
I remember Angel and Jason from Jubilee's video with progressive Christians vs. conservative Christians. It's heart-warming to see how much Angel grew in his beliefs and how much more comfortable he is with himself now. Pastor Jason, on the other hand.. I'm sorry to say, but he is just firmly narrow-minded and doesn't sound loving at all.
He is preaching what the Bible says, maybe you dont like the Bible at all and thats your choice, but he is the only one defending what the Bible teaches wheather ppl like it or not. Also you said he is marrow minded, maybe its because of this: Matthew 7:13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Alyssa was very well spoken and very knowledgeable. Although I didn’t agree with every point he made Jason is someone who is not ashamed of his faith. Angel has been interesting, and it seems his view on his sexuality is changing. Overall though great encouraging video. Don’t hate on Jason for saying his beliefs. That’s the point of the video
Jason seemed like the only one who actually follows the word closely. The rest were injecting their liberal views into their faith as much as they possibly could. Why be apart of a religion if you're going to make it about yourself. Coming from someone who is irreligious. Just seems like a cop-out to blatantly disregard some of the teachings.
As a Christian who lives in the UK I'm surprised to see that people are calling these Evangelicals liberal/progressive...I would say their views are pretty standard and still theologically quite conservative. Just shows how extreme American evangelicals have become compared to other parts of the world.
You think this is extreme? Talk to Evangelicals in northern Africa, or India, or literally any non-western non-liberal infested country and see how much more firmly conservative they are in their views. You only think this is extreme because of how much Christians in the UK have spiritually abandoned and changed their religion.
Jubilee really needs to expand beyond LA. Really limits the ability to capture a "spectrum" or "middle ground".
Absolutely. They need to travel. Idk why they haven’t
You only get “evangelicals” like this in L.A
I thought the same thing
I thought the same thing….wow I have never met evangelicals quite this progressive 😉
Probably would be very successful to open a southern branch or Midwestern branch but it’s easier said than done of course
As someone who has family members who are evangelical, these seem to be very progressive evangelicals. If there was a spectrum Midwest or southern version of evangelicals the views would be drastically different. I’m curious to see if there would be a bigger difference with younger people from region to region.
Thanks for the information
They seem pretty southern to me 😅
Two of these people were on the progressive vs conservative christans episodes funnily enough and they were conservative
This episode was missing the angry hateful christian (which is majority of them and better representation of evangelicals)
@@RockinLoud360 Actual majority or just the vocal minority. "Angry" already indicates the group is vocal
This is the most progressive set of evangelicals I’ve ever seen. I wonder how many people Jubilee needed to interview to get this group.
For real. Jason is the only Christian. Makes me sad
@@Crankingforthekingdom correction: Jason is the only Christian you would agree with. No gatekeeping allowed here.
@@isirlaughsalot2675 there is a difference between beliefs that are okay to disagree about and still be a Christian. There are some beliefs that if you don’t have make you not a Christian. There are openhanded issues and close handed issues in Christianity, and not repenting of sin is a closed handed issue. Thanks tho
@@isirlaughsalot2675 saying you are a Christians isnt enough, living a godly life is evidence that you are saved. “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’”
Matthew 7:21-23 ESV
@@Crankingforthekingdom I’ve heard pastors who are similar to Alyssa viewpoint wise. None of them mentioned Roe v Wade though or similar topics. Not all of the pastors were young either.
It would have been interesting if they actually got evangelicals from the south and not just California cause most evangelicals are not like most of them.
I never heard of a evangelical in my life and I’m 20 from texas, what’s the difference from Christians?
Why does it have to be southern evangelicals? I agree to find more than just cali but why not just around the country ?
@@realrareap2420 is just a denomination like catholics are christians too
@@realrareap2420 I would say that Christianity has many traditions and evangelicalism is one protestant stream of it, dominant in the US and other western countries.
How do you know that most evangelicals are not like the ones that they interviewed in this video? Generalizations are very harmful, especially when talking about such a large cohort of individuals.
I have never seen someone make a point on a spectrum video that made 3 people cross the floor. Damn!
That point tho DAMN she spoke facts.
@Lord Submissive In my opinion, to speak is to act. No one goes on riots and wars or collective efforts and adventures trips without having heard stories before and get inspired from them.
@@Random-sk6hm I don’t understand what she was saying. Can you simplify it for me?
@@ftgjt21 ohhh ok thx
The two girls just followed in the path of angel
I'm surprised people aren't talking about Alyssa. She is very understanding and see how, even though she is set in her Christian beliefs, that is not a reason to cause harm to the rest of the world
yep- very well spoken individual.
I agree 💯
She got 3 people to move to where she was! Amazing
She was so well spoken and as an atheist I would definitely like to hear more from her
Yes this is exactly how I am as well I’m my Christian beliefs
Would be interesting to see Jubilee interview folks from the Dharmic religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism) in America. Would be great to have that representation as well as diversity in thought!
I agree. They have a few but most of there religious content is Christianity.
i agree
But not the fastest growing religion in the world though
yes!!!
No that would be boring
You can tell Angel has come a very long way in the last year, especially in terms of stepping more into himself as a gay person. I like that he's starting to question things that he might have thought were black and white before, and I hope he continues that growth.
I agree, it looks like he is stronger in his faith as well
Hopefully he gets reborn
Which other video does he appear in?
@@TributesAndUnique Liberal Christians versus conservative christians
yea, i’m glad that he’s changed because he seemed more unhappy back then
As an atheist, I must say the ladies and Angel were some very liberal Christians.
I also like how they were very well spoken and how they approached these questions objectively.
Also really like how Angel is a listener and is so guided by empathy and openness that he is also able change his mind when confronted with new information that may goes against his previously held view.
These are the most progressive evangelicals I’ve seen
@@tangytanger1ne you should watch their conservative vs liberal (or maybe it’s progressive?) Christian’s video. Angel and Jason are in it as well. The Christian’s on the liberal side are more progressive than this bunch imo.
I've been a Christian for 20+ years and they said nothing new to me. They are more liberal than the LOUDEST Christians, but not more liberal than the AVERAGE Christian.
Angel identifies as a conservative Christian
Yea and many social issues liberals stand for are completely against christ
You guys have to do a MIDDLE GROUD between Christians and Muslims PLEASE!!!!!!!
I think they already did that.
YES PLS
But we already know the out come….what do you think will happen lol.
That would end in disaster
@@novaquinn5323 they would likely agree on much
Definitely appreciated Alyssa’s responses to all the prompts. It’s the type of maturity and humbleness I would want in my pastor.
YES! I loved her statements on the sanctity of life. :)
aren’t you the guy in physics house?
Women can’t be pastors, the reason why you liked Alyssa is because she appeals to the world. You know someone is not a real Christian when they are championed by non Christian
@@Lebronwski exactly
@@Lebronwski You’re so wrong. Alyssa is a true Evangelical. You are what’s wrong religion and the reason people leave religion.
I grew up Catholic and one thing my family taught me is to never trust someone just because they can quote the bible. Even the devil can quote the bible, he knows it well because he was once an angel.
stop saying you grew up Catholic and start actually practicing the faith.
@@lunarlad8075 no
So what’s the alternative trust someone who isn’t quoting the Bible? Lol
@@Lebronwski the alternative is to trust people based on common sense and not just blindly trust someone because they follow a specific religion
@@Miss_Kisa94 it is common sense that the Catholic faith is the one true faith
I clicked on this video because I recognized Angel from a previous video years ago where he was claiming homosexuality was a sin to be essentially "prayed out". It's amusing to see him go from "I can control the gay" to 3:44 "I'm gay!". But most importantly, I'm happy for him no longer trying to suppress that side of himself
wow really? wow
Yep
What video? You sure?
@@Archive41024 He was in the 'conservative vs progressive christians' video
Hope he gets reborn
Super proud of Jason for standing on truth!
The rest of them are mad especially the black dude and the white woman. They are far from being called Christians.
They speak what they want to hear.
more like standing for the hate
Only true believer in the group.
@@geyb7556How so? Genuinely curious.
Being gay or acting on it, is not a sin. Jason is incorrect with everything (besides his stance in the first prompt being correct).
Did they really give Luca one sentence in the entire video or am I missing something LMAO
fr he never spoke lmfao
@@Random-sk6hm Likely he did. Jubilee heavily edits these videos. Lotta former participants have complained about this.
I scrolled back a few times thinking the same thing. I didn’t even know his name 🤦🏾♂️
Honestly, Jason is the most biblical out of everyone.
Yeah full brainwash
i agree.
Absolutely
Correction: Jason is the ONLY biblical one out of everyone.
(Except a few people were sort of quiet so I can’t tell about them but you know what I mean)
As a prior church kid what this video has shown me is Evangelicals are moving away from the word (bible) in which they claim to follow and creating a version of it to best fits their needs. Which isn't fair to nonbelievers, people should be rightfully informed on what they're getting into so they can make a proper decision. The fact that only one person stood in Strongly Agree when asked if Christianity is the only path to Salvation is a indication of this.
absolutely. this video was infuriating. makes me so sad to see "Christians" like this. However, I think majority of them are from LA, so it makes a lot of sense.
I totally agree. As Christians, we are to be followers of Christ, not culture!
Yes! When I saw only one person go to the strongly agree on that prompt it made my heart hurt. How a Christian cannot strongly agree to that makes me question if they truly know what the gospel is.
Yeah..
As a Christian, I agree. Most of the views shared here were personal opinions and preferences not biblical, historical Christianity.
If you identify as a Christian and don’t strongly agree that Christianity is the only way to salvation, something is wrong with your interpretation of the gospel.
Sounds so incredibly dangerous when I hear or see people saying things like this and makes me wish religion will be wiped out eventually.
Exactly, that’s Christianity 101
Facts
I appreciate Jason for his consistency & for standing firm.
lol
I’m glad he’s a pastor that speaks biblical truth. these “progressives” want to conform their beliefs in what society wants to hear.
Matthew 17: 13-14 is what comes to mind watching Jason speak his faith.
Yes. The only hope among the lost.
@@c_wonder Huh? What does the scripture have to do with that?
True. Only thing I disagree with is him supporting women pastors. I feel the scriptures speaks against this clearly.
You can’t claim to be a Christian and “loosely” follow the Bible. You can’t pick and choose what you want to believe. Completing missing the point.
And why not Protestants do that all the time
Yes you can thats LITERALLY the ENTIRE point hence why there's so many denominations of christianity lmao
Actually you can, there a tons of different christianity religions. Each take what parts of the bible they want to follow and which ones they don’t want.
If the bible was easy to understand then there wouldn’t be this many types of christianity
@@Fourtune1 you're not wrong on that point lol
I don’t think they’d consider it “loose.” They said look at it in context - consider the many different authors, translating different languages, different cultures and times, different genres. All of that matters. So when the Bible tells us something like don’t eat shrimp or wear mixed fabrics, we don’t literally do that; we try to understand the meaning that was intended.
I applaud Jason for speaking boldly what the Bible says while still being gentle
Yup he was the only Christian there. the rest are luckwarm and are falling for worldy views
Absolutely 💯
@@MadelineBrooklyn2827 facts bruh it kinda made me upset how the rest of those Christians had no Christian value in them
Yes! I agree 💯
I wholeheartedly concur with your viewpoint and commend Jason for his brave stance in upholding the tenets of the Holy Bible, while remaining open-minded towards the perspectives of those who may not fully comprehend its teachings. ✝️📖🙏
I am an atheist watching this, so take it for what it's worth. Some folks in the video wondered why LGBTQ+ people would often not feel safe in Christian spaces. But a lot of the time in the video is spent debating whether or how or why being LGBTQ+ is wrong. So, why would an LGBTQ+ person feel safe in a space where that topic is debated - is their existence wrong, or is it only that they choose to act on their existence? Put it this way: if there was a space where a LOT of time was spent debating whether Christianity is wrong, a mental defect, naive, or benign - even if they decide after all that discussion that it's benign, Christians won't likely feel comfortable in that space. Why? Because no one wants to be in spaces where their acceptance is constantly debated.
It's not LGBTQ peoples existence that's being debated. You guys exist (clearly and obviously). What's debated is whether acting upon a desire a person has that's wrong makes it a sin or simply having that wrong desire in the first place. The act of being with someone of the same sex is wrong and sinful. But so is adultry between straight people. So the debate in the latter case would be whether a person is wrong simply for having the desire to commit adultry and cheat on their spouse or whether its only wrong if they act upon that desire.
@@authorjoannawhite What demonstrable harm is caused by homosexuality?
@@kinggenius930 what does causing harm have to do with anything?
@@authorjoannawhite Well why else should something be considered wrong or "sinful"? For example, I can fully understand why adultery could be seen as wrong as it can cause demonstrable harm. Can't see how the same is true of homosexuality
@@authorjoannawhite,
Even with your clarification, I can understand why LGBTQ people would not want to be in Christian spaces. Let's do the reversal I talked about in my earlier comment. You are Christian and you are thinking about whether you feel comfortable in x space. X folks are having endless debates not about whether Christians exist, but whether it is immoral or wrong for them to act on their abberant faith. Not whether believing in Christ is wrong in itself, but whether acting on that abberant belief is worthy of condemnation. But yet, they tell you "You are safe here. We love you! We really do! You can't help being that way. We just don't want you to act on who you are at your very core."
That wouldn't make you eager to be in x space, would it?
I’m a Mexican guy in California who’s a Christian. Most people on this video are still confused and still need more time to grow
I agree.
Can u elaborate ?
I'm Mexican as well who's a Christian and I believe they're are more like new era type of christians that try to fit their ideas into the gospel when it's the other way around. The only one that seems to believe what the bible says and not what they think what the bible says is Jason.
Agreed… Jason needs to find some enlightenment for sure…
@@rpmnh he was the smartest one there haha
as someone who used to be christian, i like people like kayli. individuals like kayli make me happy that people like her exist in the evangelical faith.
Used to?
@@silentghost751 yes “used to.” i got saved on april 22, 2020.
So you like Christian’s that don’t follow the bible?
@@jackieneel3718 saved?? Quite the opposite
@@jackieneel3718 You can’t go from being saved to being unsaved. If you walked away, you never really converted.
It feels like these Christians are trying to sell Christianity to people or they're trying to sweet talk people into the faith. If they can't accept our beliefs as it is than let those people live their life their way and find out the truth in the end. No other spiritual practices changes their beliefs to appease the unbelievers. We shouldn't have to either.
W
I don’t agree at all I feel like there’s a difference between cultures when it comes to receiving Christianity. As we move forward in modern times peoples perceptions of how Christians dealt with certain things in the past are going to change and how they choose to deal with things in the present will also change. That along with how they interpret the Bible and God‘s intentions. Plenty of Religions change how they used to be especially in western areas as we become more accepting and continue to live amongst one another
@@CaptainChapin a religion that stood the test of time shouldn’t pander to new western ideologies
This
Go Jason! We need more Christians like him who aren't afraid to speak God's Truth in love even when they get pushback. Well done, brother in Christ! 👏
Amen
Being gay is not a sin, neither is acting on it. If you think this way, why? What verses?
@@yum5079Leviticus 18:22
If you are cheering for Jason, it’s obvious you gain pride into being judgmental and mentally harmful to others
I'm fascinated by Alyssa. She's so calm and seems to be really understaning. I really like the way she talks too, she gets her points without being aggressive; what she says just comes out as super clear beacuse she seems to be very informed about what she's talking about and to care about what she has to say, her message.
yeah me too. like she so clearly has put deep thought into everything she believes and viewed it from a very critical lens and she expresses it in words beautifully.
She was wrong about almost literally every point she made. Just cause it sounds nice doesn’t mean it’s correct by the Lord
Being sourced in LA is definitely going to grant a lot more progressive evangelicals, these are not the standards of most evangelical.
People can fly in or drive hours. They aren’t all from LA. I can only account for some. Jason is viewed as progressive to many people in the comments.
I’m so glad that a lot of Christians are deconstructing from that Western Evangelical Christianity that comes out of the South. You can have a relationship with Yeshua without that label.
Hmm I'm from the South & had a Christian education. We would side with the girls over Jason.
@@11vramir stop lying
@@jjslotman the entire nation of Canada share similar societal views as California so that wouldn’t be surprising.🫤🫤🫤
We all need a brother like Jason to keep us accountable
No
Angel's becoming more self aware. I love that! Also, his expression when Kayla said "put something in their mouth" was priceless 😂😂😂
I'd love to see this done with Catholics or Orthodox Christians
Second this
Jews, Hindus and Muslims would be interesting too.
100% agree. There are more branches of Christianity than just Protestantism.
@@silveryfeather208 Not Hindus.
@@ahprice1887 why not?
Who is this Alyssa girl and how can I help amplify her voice??!! Every single thing she said, advocating for LOVE above all else, empathy, understanding, compassion, humility.. this is what we need more of in this world! Girl, if you opened your church please share details! and KEEP OF SPEAKING!
** Keep ON speaking! too excited lol
She is. However, from most evangelicals perspective they feel an urgency to preach about sin, repentance, salvation, also.
She is on the more progressive side.
John 14:6!!!! I'm supprised for the first question they were not all in strongly agree. Reguardless of what you wrestle with as a Christian or whether you you born in a place that makes it likely for you not to become a Christian, as Christians we belive that there is only ONE way and ONE truth and ONE life, nothing else can lead to salvation.
AMEN!!!!!!
It's a more nuanced discussion than you let it out to be, as you said what about the people who have never heard of christ or lived in a culture that was so departed from that? Would they be condemned or be saved? There may be some leeway there as christianity is not the predominant religion in every country
Is Christianity the only way to salvation? No. Is Christ the only way to salvation? YES!
Not a great representation. Most Evangelicals very much disagree with homosexuality, abortion, & women in pastoral/elder roles. Time to move outside of urban hubs Jubilee!
I am SO glad that Spectrum is back. I didn't know if Jubilee would ever revisit this series and I missed it.
No one in the Roe v Wade part has anything to say about whether it was actually the correct legal decision for the Supreme Court to be making. They made it about their personal pro-life/pro-choice stances. The Supreme Court's job is to rule based on the language of the Constitution and the precedents it sets. They are judges, not lawmakers. If you want to talk about which laws should be in effect either at a state or federal level, that's a different conversation than whether the Supreme Court is making rulings based off accurate interpretations of what the Constitution says. People are consistently confused about this and I wish the media would do more to clear it up, rather than just continue to stir the pot and profit off the resulting chaos.
Becuase the entire video is focused on the lenses of evangelicals, not lawyers. I don’t expect evangelicals to discuss what’s the meaning of “liberty” in the Constitution.
@@isaacng123456789 but the question itself had nothing to do with being evangelical. it was weird to ask. should’ve been about pro-choice/pro-life maybe but not what was asked.
And the truth is there is basis for overtuning Roe v. Wade then which is also something the media will not say. These laws need to passed through congress. I believe RGB herself eluded to this as well.
Exactly! While I am a pro-life Christian and I believe the overturning of Roe is something to be celebrated because I truly believe it was God’s hand working, the Supreme Court didn’t do this of their own religious/non religious views of abortion. They are going by what actions our constitution says to do. If they wanted to codify Roe, they had almost 50 years to do it.
@@ashleyholder2218 they most certainly did it because of their own religious views. theyre most conservative. u think thats a coincidence? most abortions are done during the first trimester. and some even earlier. and what about zygotes? are those babies or are they sex cells that have yet to be babies? is a fertilized chicken egg a chicken? especially if you can't even tell there is a zygote there?
The most funny thing is that Jason's understanding of the Bible is the most accurate out of everyone on the spectrum.
Understanding or interpretation? He may have more biblical knowledge, but the way he interprets that is no more correct than anyone else
@@catcomputer understanding my guy. This modern 'understanding' to be more inclusive is mostly cap
The only person here who seems to be Evangelical is Jason...
Can we get some Mormons for spectrum and Mormons vs ex-mormons for middle ground?
I volunteer!
They don’t even call themselves Mormon anymore. It’s now “lds” but yeah I would volunteer for this as well. Grew up in utah and happy to be out of the state and that church
The Asian brother is the only Christian on the show.
and the only person I can't stand as an decent human being. Protesting against women's rights, LGBTQ rights, offending other religions and faiths...
@@trungduong4040 you’re delusional🫤
@@trungduong4040 Truth hurts
It’s videos like these that make me very curious to see the responses of people in other regions. I’m a Christian from the south, and I know plenty of individuals who would give a different answer to a lot of these prompts from a lens of theology, life experience and academia in a very articulate way. I know that Jubilee is only based in LA, but I think the overall message of being more human would have a deeper reach of more perspectives from different parts of the country were represented.
completely agree. even the most "conservative" Christian on the episode was still quite liberal in his theology compared to orthodox protestanism.
Hmmm I'm from the South & had a Christian education. I agreed more with the girls than Jason. Most of my friends would also side with them.
Angel is the same guy, who was so stubborn and thought homosexuality was a sin
I'm glad to see this transformation
I think he still believes acting on it to be a sin but having that attraction is not sinful, however I also don’t want to speak for him so I’m not sure
He still thinks that lol
I wish there was a question on mission trips! I’d be interested to hear their opinion to see if they acknowledge the negative effects it can end up having on communities. As a former evangelical I often had quarrels in the church with what I now understand it as a form of modern day colonialism. Coming in and out of childrens lives so quickly can cause abandonment issues as well as poor self-worth due to the constant comparisons and rhetoric. Not to mention misconduct that can often happen with power/age dynamics. Even the more progressive evangelicals often refuse to acknowledge the white saviorism complex that occurs in their churches.
that would've been a great topic to touch on! it sucks that the same 5-6 topics are recycled in these kinds of videos when there are so many other interesting ones that are hardly discussed.
There are real missionaries that stay and live in these communities amongst the people for years or decades but those are few are far between. Most are quick week long trips which are definitely outdated and harmful
There are certainly harmful ways to do mission trips but thats not the majority. There are a ton of ways for the local church to support missions. The first is to help train and equip the people in that country/area so that they can do their own ministry. The second is sending out long-term missionaries and planting churches. For short-term missions (which is what you primarily referred to), you partner with missionaries/organizations that are already established wherever you are going, that way you can support something thats already well established within the community. My church does all of the above, as well as every church within our network.
As for it being “colonialism” I find that comment curious as its usually made by people fully support (and often partake) in modern day colonialism which is pushing Western ideas onto other cultures via the internet/media. Because of the internet we dont need to travel to countries to colonize them with our culture/ideas, and so much of the world that doesnt share western culture ideology is significantly more poor, significantly more happy and also very late to internet/media. Because of that, primarily progressives look down on these cultures because they have much more conservative lifestyle views, primarily in areas of race, gender and LGTBQ. I certainly dont agree with all of those ideas (polygamy, incest, and sleeping with minors are also cultural things Ive seem in different parts of the world), but technically if you come into their culture and tell them to do anything otherwise then your colonizing them. And if you think “but thats our moral imperative” congratulations- your a colonizer :)
What about all the non white missionaries, and what do you want them to do? Just stand there and not help poor countries?
@@5xmasterx548 apparently lol, impoverished communities are being helped during these mission trips but apparently people think it’s more beneficial to just call people colonizers online and do nothing in the real world
Jason is clearly the only one courageous to tell the absolute truth. Idk if the others were just too scared to say how they really feel or if that’s how they really feel. If they truly felt that way there’s a problem lol
Progressive Christianity this is an example watering down Gods word to be liked/fit in more but as Christian’s we are told to be different as this world is not our home heaven is
Amen.
Why are you acting like Christianity hasn't been changed constantly since it's founding? The Bible is riddled with contradictions and provable changed texts to fit the mainstream belief at the time.
Mad props to Jason. He stands firm and knows truth.
I love seeing Angel again. He honestly looks happier & healthier than he has in the past.
I don’t really understand why people with spiritual beliefs so badly want those beliefs to be legally mandated when in a multi-belief community
Because they confuse their beliefs with objective truth.
@@SomeLad12 Christ is truth
Because they want sinful deeds to be illegal
@@silentghost751 no, you're just delusional
Why don’t you ask the whole Middle East that
Bible: defines gender roles
Bible: there is no difference in gender or class ... We're all equal
"Should the Bible be interpreted literally?"
Most of the group: agree
Me: Confused how to interpret previous two conflicting statements.
By reading the whole chapter and seeing who the verse is spoken by, to, where, and when. The scripture taken out of Deuteronomy is specifically for Ancient Israelites before the time of Christ when they were bound under the law. The second verse is out of the New Testament after Christ has come and fulfilled that law, now breaking the grip it had and freeing the Israelites (and rest of the world) to live in freedom, by grace. Context context context.
You can be equal in gender in class and still have a different role to do. People assume that one role is better than the other and so they want the other role that was not assigned to them.
@@rnbear absolutely.
I just think many religious people worship books, rather than celebrate people.
Equal does not mean identical. There can be different roles, yet still the same value for both genders.
Jason is the only real evangelical
that girl questioning why we don't feel safe in the church - the answer is so obvious. why would any of us want to be around people who truly believe that our existence is a sin?
We don't believe that anyone's existence is a sin.
@@LeslieFlemons one of them did say that acting on our homosexuality is a sin so...
It’s not your existence it’s your tendencies and the lifestyle
The reason why you don’t feel “safe” is because the bible rejects your lifestyle so therefore you reject it-🤷🏾♀️
We aren’t here to please you or make you happy we are here to tell the truth
Straight is the gate narrow is the way, few will be found there at. Props to you Jason.
Facts
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Angel seems to have changed quite a bit since he spoke on middle ground
Hope he gets reborn
so glad for him
@@silentghost751 you come off as the kind of christian I hope I will never run into tbh
should've asked them if they agree w the death penalty and immediately have followed it up with whether they agree on abortion... I bet their logic would evaporate into thin air
I enjoyed this video, and next thing I knew, it was over. I would definitely have loved an extended one of these.
yes I want a part 2 please
I have no idea why they keep them so short, people said they wanted longer videos a million times before
I always say these type of videos and the middle ground ones need to be like and hour plus
kayli spilled during this entire video
I'm tearing up, I'm so happy to see Angel in this video. Seeing him in the Liberal vs Conservative Christians video, you could tell he was so conflicted in his identity in the name of religion. It's wonderful how he realized he can still have his faith while being who he is ♡
Yes it’s so nice to see!
He gave up his beliefs to impress and fit in with culture. It’s super sad
@@jonmarkbeatty he obviously didn't give up his beliefs or he wouldn't have been in the video. Christianity is it's own culture so I'm sure that's not what he was trying to "fit in" with. It's people like you that made him ashamed to be his true self in the first place
@@jonmarkbeatty People like you make other people leave Christianity with that mindset.
@@jonmarkbeatty you’re anti christ
Jason rocks!! We need more young, bold, Bible believing Christians like him!🔥🔥
YESSSSS!
Hi!
@@LeslieFlemons so solid!!
Thankfully for the sanity of the world it's a fading demographic
Based Jason
@@mattspyro well it needs to go up
This video does not accurately showcase the majority of evangelicals. Most of them are like Jason.
What a judgmental comment jeez lol
Jubilee
We need middle ground Christians and Muslims.
YES
I had no idea this is the same Angel from Liberal Christians vs Conservative Christians! He seems like a whole new person and so much more free! I'm glad he could finally accept himself.
Felt like there was only 1 person here who was actually an evangelical christian? Just me? 🤔
Jason, yeah. That's the only 1.
@@b.1162 Since when do we dictate what others can or cannot identify as?
@@Noa...... Since we started placing truth and reality above narratives and delusions.
@@b.1162 Oh, you mean not the one?
@@Noa...... Since always? Isn't that what words and definitions are for? Someone can identify as something all they like, but they aren't then shielded from criticisms of the truthfulness of that label as it applies to them.
These are not Christian’s. Older asian guy is the only one who is decently Christian.
I love Jason and that he stands up for what he believes
I don’t agree with a lot of Jason’s views but I give him props for being unafraid to go hard for his beliefs.
Jason actually has views that line up with mainstream evangelicals.
The others are minorities in evangelicalism, they’re very progressive.
Jason was the only christian that wasn't holding onto ideas grounded in heresy
Jason's perspective is quite black & white & has no room for compassion. I believe it's important to understand the principle underlying scripture.
@@11vramir Jason is the only one who takes scripture seriously in this video
@@waylonwalker1457 yeah. that's why christian fundamentalism is bad. It makes people the worst of humanity without realizing it
Am I the only one who watches this, as a Christian and is so discouraged?
Why discouraged? Do you care to share?
@@constanzzcheng5377 Because none of this "Christians" are actually Christians, they're just a bunch of liberals using twisting Christianity to spread their liberalism.
Don’t be! I’m a Christian but it was clear that with the exception of Jason, they got a bunch of progressive Christian’s & called them evangelicals. So not really a fair video but I guess that’s what’s going to happen if you only have people from LA
@@HopeWren Evangelical is not synonymous with conservative or christian fundamentalist.
@@HopeWren I think it's terrible that they represent us this way. I think Jubilee is awfully stereotypical when picking people to come talk for especially anyone Christian. This makes people think that Evangelicals are like this. I think if Jubilee should take these responsibilities far more seriously!
Ay, pastor Alyssa. I'd listen to her sermons for sure. Such a soothing voice and deliberate use of kind words.
Why is everyone so unsure, indecisive, and wavering?
Ton of respect for Jason!!
The uncut version of this needs to be posted!
100% this is too short and not representative of everyone
Jason was the only Evangelical there
seeing the progress Angel has made over the few years since the first video i saw him on actually made me cry. he seems to simultaneously be more comfortable with his sexuality AND he seems to has strengthened his faith. im so happy for him
Regarding pro life or pro choice, why do Christians feel the need to impose their religion on people of other religions with different beliefs? Genuinely asking
I think Jason sums up the best but honestly it should be legal issue (in terms of keeping it) be sort of a moral one
having an opinion ≠ imposing it. but more seriously, both sides are trying to "impose" their beliefs so…
exactly! abortion is a much more open subject in other religions like Islam, Hindusim and Judaism so the overturn of Roe v Wade violates freedom of religion.
@@dollyzberich what do you mean by both sides are imposing their beliefs?
If you genuinely believe something is the equivalent of taking a life, you will fight to prevent it (I think 99% of people would agree to this). A lot of people who are pro-life believe abortion is exactly that. I don't think Christians view it as a religious stance but more so a fundamental stance, if that makes sense. Case in point, there are a lot of non-Christian pro lifers out there. I understand the frustration and/or confusion though, it's sticky business :/
I am evangelical, and I thank you for doing this. I love the discussions and think we should be having more of them.
wouldn't it be better if they spent the time proclaiming Christ and his beautiful work of salvation?
Jubilee selected progressive Christians and said that they were “evangelical Christians” because they realized that no true Bible believing Christians would disagree on these topics
Jason did
except Jason
I wish this was a long video because not everyone talked and would’ve loved to see this as more of a conversation piece than a “Spectrum” video, and would love for y’all to travel or fly people out to get others opinions
I would have loved for them to talk about the perfect work of Christ and his character. how Christ lift us up through his sacrifice.
Jubilee is scared of getting true christians
Tell me why the majority of not all of Jason’s explanations come with biblical backing and no one else’s?
Jason seems to be the only one with a clear understanding of the Bible and Christianity. These other people are greatly mislead
This is the first time I heard about Evangelical
Same
How?
Lol in my country the major church is evangelical lutheran
Lucky you ngl
I heard about it in history and by watching Evangelion 😍
when i saw LGBTQ+ i knew its gonna get spicy
cuz there is ALWAYS that one guy who doesnt support
@@mateajarebc as he should.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh as long as they don't go near you I think they'll be fine
@@fresh.prince7472 there's only one Christian in this video. The others don't even know why they're here.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh Define being a christian? Is it just when you hate gay people? lmfao
Normally I don't watch these kinds of high production, social reality show-esque videos, but the way in which this channel takes groups of people with differing opinions on controversial topics (not just in Middle Ground) and makes them debate those opinions with respect and patience is admirable.
Jubilee is amazing for discussions you need to watch their other videos trust me
Agreed
After watching this video I realized that a lot of Christians will be lost.. it's like the days of Noah
YES ANGEL!!!! I’m so happy for him
He’s come so far
How
Also was impressed with how Jason stood his ground in his beliefs even though it might have been controversial
when they said not to follow the bible i knew they werent evengelical lol
you need to vet your people better they might be christian but most of those people werent evangelical
It’s kinda sad that for the prompt “I support the LGBTQ+ community,” the gay guy isn’t even in strongly agree.
these evangelicals are all progressive, even jason is probably more progressive than your average evangelical, this clearly does not represent their group and is kinda misleading
I agree that the evangelicals are progressive, but how is Jason more progressive? He seems like the most conservative out of all of them.
@@LeslieFlemons i said he is more progressive than the average evangelical just in general, not within the show
@@Pablo-ix3xf oh okay
it's not misleading at all, of course these few people won't be able to represent the entirety of evangelicals. it's up to you to take their individual viewpoints as exactly what they are and realize that they're only representing themselves. 🤔
@@kennedy3682 my friend most of then things said have nothing to do with evagelical belifs
oh no not that jason guy again
Same reaction with you haha
exactly what i said😭
So
@@silentghost751 this account has replied to every single comment LMAOAOAO
@@ilovematthewfox haha i've noticed. pretty pathetic.
I was in the last of these two videos (Spectrum Christians) where I met Jason. I also went to college with Alyssa - we had the same major! I’m encouraged that Jubilee included more of the conversation regarding theology but disappointed that they once again centered the conversation about LGBTQ+ people instead of covering other topics that don’t get as much airtime, although this conversation seemed slightly more productive, if less direct.
Fr it’s all about sexuality when it comes to Christianity and it’s tiring
Wow, yes Jason!! Speaking the truth on every point!
Jason is every thing wrong with religion and the reason so many people are leaving the church.
People are leaving because they can’t handle the truth
@@Crayziebone17 no Jason is the only one who actually is speaking the truth from God's word. Other "evangelicals" there still cherry pick some Bible verses just to fit with what the world says.
Go Jason!
I really feel like Jason was only the real true evangelical Christian and that’s no offense to the other ones but that’s just me
I'm sooo proud of Angel and how far he's come, you can tell how much he's thought about his beliefs and his identity regarding them. He genuinely seems a lot happier now, and the way he's so open-minded to new and reasonable information is amazing to see.
I thought it said Evangelions 😭
Misato>>>
Same, don’t know what that word means but I for sure thought that’s what I read too
Jubilee, the amount of progressive evangelicals in this video is appalling. As someone that literally attends an Evangelical Theological Society every year, this is not representative of Evangelicals. I applied to be in this video, and I didn't get any response. Please try to diversify these videos.
Your KKK mask on the latest video is more appalling
I remember Angel and Jason from Jubilee's video with progressive Christians vs. conservative Christians. It's heart-warming to see how much Angel grew in his beliefs and how much more comfortable he is with himself now. Pastor Jason, on the other hand.. I'm sorry to say, but he is just firmly narrow-minded and doesn't sound loving at all.
Why doesn’t he sound loving
@@stephanie_yd because he sounds judgmental and unempathetic, IMO.
@@Rinirinirinirin he is preaching what the Bible teaches.
He is preaching what the Bible says, maybe you dont like the Bible at all and thats your choice, but he is the only one defending what the Bible teaches wheather ppl like it or not.
Also you said he is marrow minded, maybe its because of this:
Matthew 7:13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
@@Rinirinirinirin examples ?
It looks like Angel gave into homosexuality after all... that's unfortunate.
Alyssa was very well spoken and very knowledgeable. Although I didn’t agree with every point he made Jason is someone who is not ashamed of his faith. Angel has been interesting, and it seems his view on his sexuality is changing. Overall though great encouraging video.
Don’t hate on Jason for saying his beliefs. That’s the point of the video
Hope Angel gets reborn
@@silentghost751 what do you mean by this?
Alyssa was amazing and so well spoken
Jason seemed like the only one who actually follows the word closely. The rest were injecting their liberal views into their faith as much as they possibly could. Why be apart of a religion if you're going to make it about yourself. Coming from someone who is irreligious. Just seems like a cop-out to blatantly disregard some of the teachings.
@@Random-sk6hm everyone needs reborn out of sin
As a Christian who lives in the UK I'm surprised to see that people are calling these Evangelicals liberal/progressive...I would say their views are pretty standard and still theologically quite conservative. Just shows how extreme American evangelicals have become compared to other parts of the world.
American evangelicals tend to be much more conservative than this
Amen
You think this is extreme? Talk to Evangelicals in northern Africa, or India, or literally any non-western non-liberal infested country and see how much more firmly conservative they are in their views. You only think this is extreme because of how much Christians in the UK have spiritually abandoned and changed their religion.
These are the most liberal “evangelicals” I’ve ever heard.
@@thelemurofmadagascar9183 Say it louder for the people in the back 🗣🗣
The only state where evangelicals would answer like this is California
Asian guy is the ONLY hardcore and humble true Christian!
They are all Christians!
@@Zoolama34709 lukewarmers are NOT christians!
Amen.
@@Zoolama34709 Some are self-proclaimed Christians, and one is a follower of Christ.