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Man I hate when UA-cam always has to change UA-camrs videos because it always has to deal with violence, cussing, and real world tragedy. Okay maybe not all of that but you get it. It's like there showing an example of how dceu movies are well in this video violence and real world tragedy like when superman fighting zod and many of Metropolis buildings falling which kills people in the city and for the violence part batman killing criminals with his bat tank and also shooting criminals with guns which batman doesn't use in the comics! I'm sorry vito that UA-cam had to change your video.
Batman has, quite simply, one obvious motivation. Bruce, to the best of his ability, wants to make Gotham a safe place for kids so that no child has to ever experience what he did. That's it. I've only been reading Batman for six decades, I'm retyping what has been said a zillion times. Leave out the fake morality, please.
Its funny that people who wrote Justice League on cartoonnetwerok knew this and had batman become a part timer on the show rather than a full time member because Batman was busy in gotham
@@ninjablack4347 that justice league was the best prototype for any dc movie, but they went full ret@rd and go all dark with snyder, I mean just imagine a movie with that kind of set with all the group in the satellite and the romance between wonder woman and batman well executed and not this lame "trilogy".
@Dennis Mason you're talking about the comics and the cartoon Batman. The DCEU Batman is a weird one. I remember him beating up Deadshot in front of his daughter in that Suicide Squad movie. Very odd.
@@josefrootgum - well well well. So for 67 years I have admired a character 82 years old who swore that no child should experience what he did and so lived by that promise. I do not acknowledge that cynical shitstorm of egomania created by Warners and Snyder.
DC's glory days were in the DCAU era (1992-2006). Nothing will ever beat the animated universe's layered story-telling, perfect casting choices, and not being afraid to tackle dark, even taboo subjects, and that's *without* taking nostalgia into account.
I was going to give it another chance but after they still kept amber heard for Aquaman 2 I’ll drink a smoothie made of glass before I watch another DC movie.
@@wrestlinganime4life288 I hope not, asian girls look weird (weirder than white girls, which is bad enough) with that shade of red hair. Even in anime ya weebs
Superman’s origins really takes inspiration from Moses- the baby saved from death by being sent in a basket to a family of a different race. Raised as one of their own until realizing his foreign origins and gaining a new sense of responsibility upon such a revelation.
Donner framed Superman as Jesus. And the creators were fine with it. The 1st appearance of Christian symbolism in Superman lore was Action Comics #1 page 4
@@dignerds what does that have to do with what I said? I only ask cause I can’t tell if you’re disagreeing with me or just stating a fun fact. Oh and yeah I’m serious that I can’t tell, IK speaking through text can make intent nearly impossible to read but I am genuinely unsure because nothing of what you said really supports or goes against what I said.
Which makes sense. His creators were Jewish. I honestly cringe when people say his origins are based off Jesus. They obviously are thinking of the Richard Donner film more than his original origin.
For some reason the censor bars, and the replacement of the actual event with "real world tragedy not allowed to be discussed on youtube" gives this a nice, fresh, take lol
Lol my brother just said "maybe Superman couldn't say my mother because Batman had his foot on his throat the easiest word to say was Martha?" In which I said to my brother "Zack Snider is that you"😂😂😂
And it's weird... bc how would know batman who martha is? XD Like "Save martha of what? who she is? where she is? when will you understand that i'm the smallest problem?."
I think what killed the DCEU isn't necessarily Zack Snyder per se, but the fact that they jumped the gun, they wanted an Avengers-level film as a second entry into the universe.
not really Zack’s fault nor is it because it was JL he 5th film in the DCEU, considering that they had their own DC universe already with the JL united without any build up and people did not complain.
@@wrestlinganime4life288 I dont think Superman lighthearted works either Superman returns isn’t fully dark from what i recall but the movie was bad too atlist in man of steel you got a great action.
Something Zack Snyder doesn't understand is that you don't to make it boring and dark to deconstruct superheroes, nor does he have to do it under a negative light, has he ever read DC - the new frontier? OH! WAIT! it is too colorful, doesn't prison rape and sex...
@Damian Rubio Snyder is a great director and storyteller .He has the respect of other big directors like Nolan and Cameron ... The story isin the visuals . BVS theater cut was NOT his full vision ...WB had that movie chopped up at the last minute instead of mandating The runtime at the beginning... The ultimate cut released to massive success being #1 Blueray for 5 weeks with 4 and 5 star ratings. Nolan had to protect MOS from WB. WB wanted the Kents to be from Chicago ..Can you imagine all the UA-cam loud mouth simpletons like the one who did this vid , bitching about that and blaming Snyder? There were no flops in the DCEU until WB butchered JL to keep their bonuses Snyder Ayre Jenkins Yan All had issues with WB. Even the Reeve Superman was mismanaged years ago. So please get a clue .
@@dignerds Seeing the Snyder Cut, I can see that more clearly. I blamed both originally. Now I realize WB is probably at fault for 80% of their own failure. But Snyder needs someone else to write the Superman portion of the story. He is terrible at understanding what Superman is about.
25:30-35. A perfect summation of the inept hackery that is infecting and ruining franchises left, right, and center. No actual agenda. Just terrible writing and direction. Terrific video as always, Vito. Proud to be a Patreon supporter.
@@Launchpad05 it's ridiculous that Snyder says his movies are for adults yet the DCAU a show for actual children has better writing in it's weakest episode. Zero depth. But the real Saturday morning cartoons are ignored. Just hire Paul Dini to make a live action Batman movie
@@sonicdash9652 still the best thing American animation has to offer. I also like Adventure time Gravity falls and Steven universe. My Hero academia has been filling my hero niche way better than DC or Marvel in the recent years.
Justice League’ from the DCAU .. (cause we just won’t even talk about the one from the DCEU) was filled with GREAT storylines and the show was actually deep. Even had some mentions of politics. I honestly think we had it too good at that time with television. The DCAU is golden.
I thought man of steel was good. BvS while it had good moments, the bad ones really stuck out the most, showing it was obviously rushed out to compete with marvel, Suicide Squad was abysmal, Wonder Woman was fine, and Justice League is a Frankenstein’s monster of a film.
I always wanted Tellie Savalis, but then my first Lex was the fat scientifist, not the slim capitalist (which really is better, but just looks off to me)
@Jakeyjakey there are some really dumb decisions that snyder made with b v s. His vision of lex luthor was one of them. Plus Lex knew both secret identities of batman and superman and in the extended cut knew of the supermans inability to see through lead.
@Jakeyjakey the characters are only as smart as the people writing them and making the decisions for them. Yes Snyder did not write the movie but like all directors he did have creative input.
I personally don’t think the DC characters are enjoyed on screen as much as Marvel, other than Batman. He’s really the only character who’s had several good stand alone movies before the Avengers style team up. Marvel characters all had successful individual movies where fans got invested first. Those that didn’t benefited from playing off the ones that had already. So maybe DC rushed their ideas a bit. Also DC has leaned to the darker, more serious gritty takes. Where Marvel’s been lighthearted comic relief that didn’t take itself too serious. Maybe that plays better when ya have a bunch of ppl in costumes on screen together. Not taking itself too serious may be a plus. Even Boys which can be vulgar and darker at times doesn’t really take itself serious like DC
That is a good point to make. These past DC movies have had the worst screenplays possible, because they didn't have an identity. Oh, we are super gritty. Oh, now we throw in jokes. Our heroes are murderers or not the least bit relatable. They are also awfully edited, like, wow!
It kinda also shows how more popular (or at the very least archetypical) DC is then Marvel. You screw up a Marvel movie, nobody panics ; you screw up a DC movie and everyone loses their minds
It's the same old story over and over again, in movies and gaming. Make a plan, get the right people for it, execute, and hey, maybe have a backup plan so you don't have to scramble and Rian Johnson yourself. DC just jumped in thinking they couldn't lose, and that's basically doom.
@Thanos 6.0 true. But they also had an foundation and catalog going for them by hitting on their first few films and setting a tone. Even Iron Man had the perfect balance of humor and cynicism, IMO. As a casual fan I remember watching the first few Marvel films and enjoying them while not even knowing that an Avengers team up was in the future plans. It took time, time that I kinda feel like DC didn’t spend. They instead wanted to success of the team up while not investing the time setting it up that marvel did.
All this moron is doing is admitting that the name Martha worked . Superman was repeating Lex's mission the way it was said to him in the previous scene ...GAWD Snyder hating UA-camrs are so dumb
Agreed with most of your points. One problem: Most living creatures have a progenitor (or "parent"), but even if Superman didn't, I don't see why him asking Batman to save his "mom" would resonate given the silly "1% chance of a threat" logic Batman uses. The real problem is crappy dialog/inability of the characters to communicate with each other on any level.
I think Whedon gets way too much flak for his cut of the Justice League. Every director brings their own style to a project. If you fire Jackson Pollock halfway through a painting don't expect Norman Rockwell to finish what Jackson started then call it a Jackson Pollock painting when it's done. Also, WB execs put a major amount of restrictions and expectations onto this movie so Whedon was destined to fail. He did the best with what he was given and asked to do but the real failure was giving complete control of the entirety of the DCEU to Snyder in the first place. I imagine the powers-that-be saw Watchmen and 300 and just hired Snyder. There didn't seem to be any planning. They gave Snyder a blank check, let him do whatever he wanted and just assumed all the pieces would fall into place and whatever Snyder came up with could be a repeatable formula. Make a movie about a superhero, drain all the color, throw in some slow-mo and boom, it looks like the same creative talent was behind all of it. It's kind of a shame the comic book movie wars are so one-sided. Not that Marvel hasn't churned out some amazing films but I can't help but think that we might've gotten even better movies if Marvel felt like they had some actual competition. Instead they can release a lukewarm film like the Eternals and still hold their head high that the MCU is still an insanely popular and lucrative franchise of movies and easily the biggest thing to happen in cinema since the first Star Wars and the first Matrix movie.
one huge problem of the dceu is the fact their second movie was batman v superman, it took marvel 8 YEARS to build up iron man vs cap through many movies like avengers and many solo movies, they rushed to it, no that’s not how it works, you need to build up the characters they didn’t atleast introduce batman in ONE movie prior. especially with justice league, could you imagine how badly the mcu failed if they made iron man, then right after civil war, then avengers right after with NO build up? it would be horrible
Ultimately it was Warner brothers trying to go in a different direction to contrast The MCU which in turn killed the core of the character of Superman and batman.
Exactly, it’s ironic how the fun superhero-superman is shown to be be dark and prude and yet no one understands why it’s not getting as much success as MCU. And another problem right now is there’s a new Zack Snyder cult who just starts humping him and forget that he made BvS that actually started the demise
@@dignerds 2 objectively great film makers…you’re entitled to your opinion I guess, but I have to strongly disagree with your second statement. Being a great film maker doesn’t simply mean you will definitively be great in all forms and genres of film.
I would strongly recommend to everyone Superman: Man of Tomorrow for an example of how to handle Superman and his supporting cast of characters well. Also Lobo is in it and that's always fun.
I know this is my opinion This is mine: I disliked the movie... the story was delivered poorly... I did not like their Superman... note that I’ve been a Superman fan my whole life and have enjoyed virtually every take on the character... except this one🙃
@@land1877 I been a fan since birth. Literally my earliest memories are of a Superman toy I used to bring with me everywhere. MOT was good. But I see what you mean. Something didn’t gel with some aspects of it.
Well...what do you think God is going to do to the devil in the Christian myths? Zod was genetically engineered to not stop... Superman killed zod AND the other 2 in the 80s comics..Faora even offered him sex to spare her.
It all went bad when they decided to kill Jonathan Kent in a way that gave Clark a serious case of PTSD. He's been brooding ever since. BvS he goes to the mountains and talks to imaginary Jonathan. He tells Clark a story about watching horses drown and hearing their cries in his dreams. Clark asks if the dreams ever stop, alluding to the fact he's having his own traumatic dreams. PTSD.
21:10 The idea that being smarter than someone else means that one can deduce everything about their past intuitively falls apart when one considers that even the most brilliant human can not accurately deduce every hunting experience that a predatory animal has ever experienced or known what freak storms that they have survived exposure to sans further clear evidence of such despite being much more intelligent than they are. It is almost as much of a worn-out cliche as The Chess Master character type who can predict peoples' every movement as if human minds and societies operate according to a incredibly simple, rigid set of rules which can not ever be violated in secret or be subject to anomalous activity.
It seems you didn't know back then about Zack's daughter. Could have left that out too. Only things I agree are that it was the executives wanting to be like Marvel and to release the Snyder Cut. Which finally is gonna happen!
“Look at this closely, see when the upper floors collapse we need the fireball to be bigger.” Can’t believe you made me laugh at the tragedy that shall not be named😂😂😂
The major problem is that DCEU didn't flesh out characters before the JL movie. It felt rushed. The 90's DC cartoons did a much better at building up the Justice League.
It didn't do that because it was meant to be a Superman saga with other DC characters as supporting characters around Superman. Superman was meant to be the main character, but then WB got creedy and ordered changes.
One thing I want to point out on the topic of Lex Luthor somehow magically knowing Superman's identity in BVS, is that it's more of a fault on the Man of Steel film. In Man of Steel, Lois was able to easily track down Superman, his mother and his mother's farm in Smallville with the resources she had, making it seem pretty easy for anyone to discover his identity if they really wanted to know, especially if they have the resources available.
*DC Comics* Alright here’s our vault with collection of all storylines and lore of every DC Character to read about. *Snyder:* Nah, won’t be needing that. First scene I want Batman R-ped in prison *DC Comics:* What?! *Warner Bros Execs:* He’s hired!
@@Pikashades he did say it. He said that in his movie he would have batman prison raped. All because he thought he didn't consider the dark Knight trilogy dark.
@@dracodraco8003 so he said he would have had his version of Batman Begins be like that but not that he wanted it. Can you enlighten me on WHEN Snyder allegegly said that? Was it between Man of Steel and BvS or so long time ago that he might have changed his mind? Or if he said it in an interview or in a conversation?
I was wondering where I heard a Transgendered Werewolves joke before, and then you showed me that joke! And now, like Batman knowing Superman’s mother’s name, it hit me! It came from this channel! Thank you for reminding me of the joke. Not knowing where it came from was killing me! And I also did not realise that I had not subscribed to you, because I was too busy focusing on how great your videos are, so I did exactly that!
Holy crap, Xmas day 2020 is the first time in my life I've ever heard someone outside of my family use the term "dirt farmer". For the last 40 years I just thought was a turn of phrase just with them...
Batman V Superman is what destroyed the foundation of the DCEU. They had everything in place to make a well set up universe without copying off of Marvel, and unfortunately, they killed Superman within the second movie and it all went downhill from there
Who killed DCEU??? I will tell you who. The toxic fans of DC killed DCEU!!! The first film of DCEU was the greatest of all!!! It was the Green Lantern film!! A great film!!! If the DCEU has started with that film now DCEU would be great!!! BUT NO!!! The toxic DC fans hated that movie!!! And I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND why they hated!!! Until now Green Lantern is THE BEST DCEU movie!!! The best!!! BUT the toxic DC fans did NOT supported at all!!! Now you have a lot shit DC movies!!! It is the toxic DC fans who killed DCEU!!!
Isn't Superman from farmer parents? He should have said "save my mama" while crying about being unable to save her or something like that. That should make Batman go "oh shit this guy is also just "human" "
Dceu like a kid trying to complete a marathon with boneless legs.Until Aquaman he crawl at ground after Aquaman,WW and Shazam it stand take a run little bit and with Birds of Prey and WW2 it kiss to ground again.
and now, in the ground being beaten on and on by marvel the dceu makes the one logic step, make a movie about blue beetle!! who the f**k is that! is like ant-man? at least marvel had the pockets and the reputation to deliver the story of a class c hero with marvelous results but in this stage? with all the failures, the wb execs can really spend more money in an obvious flop?
@@horaciofuenzalida2266 I really want DC give C ,F tier most ridicolous characters to Marvel.Like If Dc had vision of Marvel we prob had Plastic Man movie right now.But they rather cheapened to value of their biggest IPs.Batman and Superman become $5 hookers on streets everyone using it for their joy.When I see him in second season of Batwoman as antagonist Im just done with Batman.
Zod was engineered to protect Kryptonand in his mind getting the codex and turning Earth into Krypton he would be doing that. Makes perfect sense to me.
I was legit confused here, by the thumbnail. I knew I watched this before...ol' UA-cam censors and Zack Snyder fanboys probably flagged the original video into oblivion.
Just look at Ezra Miller run. Of all the stupid decisions in the DC movies, why would you cast an actor as The Flash who runs like he has cerebral palsy?
Unpopular opinion: I thought Man of Steel was a pretty good super hero movie in comparison to half of marvels stuff, but mostly because of the action scenes
11:21 this explanition almost makes sense but It doesnt for one reason: Batman knows that Clark Kent is Superman right? So Batman didnt bother to search If he had any relatives?
Studios have a habit of giving Snyder too much control, let’s just say there’s a reason why barely anybody knows James Gunn wrote Snyder’s Dawn Of The Dead remake because Snyder took every joke Gunn wrote into the film and either threw it out or turned the jokes into downer and depressing scenes with zero humour
Yep, Snyder pretty much took Gunn’s script and either ripped out the jokes or recontextualised them into serious scenes. For example Gunn wrote a scene where some of the characters walk around a video store and comically point out the pictures and items with the most annoying celebrities they could find and start talking about how thankful they were for those celebrities to be dead, Snyder saw that and changed it into the scene where the guy in a very downer and pessimistic way says everybody they ever knew in their life was dead
Warner Bros needs to stop hiring writers, producers, and directors who know absolutely nothing about the characters they are trying to direct, produce or write about. They have to hire those geeks and nerds that still live in moms basement and have spent their entire life following these superheroes. Like me!
Wtffff i honestly was terrified when i saw the views number. Bruh such a good video oh my god...keep up the good work man hope you blow up soon. Lol now i feel obliged to share it to my friends who probably won't care to even open the link cuz they don't know "what's a DC?"
See this is why I can't stand the people who want Zack's director's cut of Justice League. Their gonna get all the things they hated in Man of Steel and BvS
@@alexwallar8608 Yep sadly thats how it works. The reason the people hated both MoS and BvS is the same reason that some people start loving those movies after 4 years. I sincerly hope ZSJL becomes a hit cuz that guy has gone through a lot, but I dont think the critics are going to go easy on it since majority of them claimed that the snyder cut doesnt exist few years ago
*nah your insane man, I didn’t like man of steel that much I enjoyed parts of BVS but the SNYDER CUT IS GLORIOUS* #RestoreTheSnyderVerse #MakeTheBatfleckMovie
I will say Suicide Squad killed it.. Batman Vs. Superman shoveled the dirt on the coffin and Justice League held the ceremony! ☠️ They all three are the worst movies I've seen in years, and i liked Green Lantern and Transformers for what it was.. The Flash TV series and Arrow was real campy but was still better than any of DC's movies..
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GODDAMN IT UA-cam!!!
Can't spell demonitise without demon
Man I hate when UA-cam always has to change UA-camrs videos because it always has to deal with violence, cussing, and real world tragedy. Okay maybe not all of that but you get it. It's like there showing an example of how dceu movies are well in this video violence and real world tragedy like when superman fighting zod and many of Metropolis buildings falling which kills people in the city and for the violence part batman killing criminals with his bat tank and also shooting criminals with guns which batman doesn't use in the comics! I'm sorry vito that UA-cam had to change your video.
RIP Sgt Murderboy
Miss that guy
@@vito If only the gunchucks had
@@vito if you don’t mind me asking what did hell happened with the gunchucks and at the time of this merry Christmas
I want the government to force Zac Snyder to change his name to Sgt. Murder boy. It just seems appropriate.
@@vito I would like to see that whole battle. Probably more entertaining then this entire trilogy. Btw Love your video. #1 youtuber
Batman has, quite simply, one obvious motivation. Bruce, to the best of his ability, wants to make Gotham a safe place for kids so that no child has to ever experience what he did. That's it. I've only been reading Batman for six decades, I'm retyping what has been said a zillion times. Leave out the fake morality, please.
Its funny that people who wrote Justice League on cartoonnetwerok knew this and had batman become a part timer on the show rather than a full time member because Batman was busy in gotham
@@ninjablack4347 that justice league was the best prototype for any dc movie, but they went full ret@rd and go all dark with snyder, I mean just imagine a movie with that kind of set with all the group in the satellite and the romance between wonder woman and batman well executed and not this lame "trilogy".
@Dennis Mason you're talking about the comics and the cartoon Batman. The DCEU Batman is a weird one. I remember him beating up Deadshot in front of his daughter in that Suicide Squad movie. Very odd.
@@josefrootgum - well well well. So for 67 years I have admired a character 82 years old who swore that no child should experience what he did and so lived by that promise. I do not acknowledge that cynical shitstorm of egomania created by Warners and Snyder.
YES !!!
DC's glory days were in the DCAU era (1992-2006). Nothing will ever beat the animated universe's layered story-telling, perfect casting choices, and not being afraid to tackle dark, even taboo subjects, and that's *without* taking nostalgia into account.
"Lois Lane is the key to all this."
- George Lucas
Wrong. Albert Einstein said that.
@@ServantBerserkerZero Nah, it was definitely Hal from Malcolm In The Middle.
If we can get her working.....
I want to like your comment, but it's at 214 likes.
@@ashernotheis76 what's one more?
Hugh Jackman should play Zack Snyder in a parody of Zack Snyder's making of the DCEU
Zack without his beard looks like a bizzare mashup of Hugh Jackman and Andy Sandberg
Honestly, that's a movie I'd watch.
I'll watch that movie
Nah Robert Downey would be a better choice.
I was going to give it another chance but after they still kept amber heard for Aquaman 2 I’ll drink a smoothie made of glass before I watch another DC movie.
She's a strong female characte--(Googles)--oh... OHHHHHH...
It seems she might actually get replaced.
James wan want an Asian actress for another character, in case the situation goes worse
Johnny lost, trump lost, get over it.
@@wrestlinganime4life288 I definitely hope so.
@@wrestlinganime4life288 I hope not, asian girls look weird (weirder than white girls, which is bad enough) with that shade of red hair.
Even in anime ya weebs
Superman’s origins really takes inspiration from Moses- the baby saved from death by being sent in a basket to a family of a different race. Raised as one of their own until realizing his foreign origins and gaining a new sense of responsibility upon such a revelation.
Donner framed Superman as Jesus. And the creators were fine with it.
The 1st appearance of Christian symbolism in Superman lore was Action Comics #1 page 4
@@dignerds what does that have to do with what I said? I only ask cause I can’t tell if you’re disagreeing with me or just stating a fun fact.
Oh and yeah I’m serious that I can’t tell, IK speaking through text can make intent nearly impossible to read but I am genuinely unsure because nothing of what you said really supports or goes against what I said.
Which makes sense. His creators were Jewish.
I honestly cringe when people say his origins are based off Jesus.
They obviously are thinking of the Richard Donner film more than his original origin.
@@daustin8888 Jesus was Jewish silly
@@dignerds Who started a sect that Jewish people reject.
Moses is their guy
For some reason the censor bars, and the replacement of the actual event with "real world tragedy not allowed to be discussed on youtube" gives this a nice, fresh, take lol
Fully agree
What was he talking about?
@@BeanLord69 9/11
The Vito Cut
This video: **exists**
Me: *"You're shorter than I expected."*
I love the instant voice/tone change to “certain real world tragedy”
Lol my brother just said "maybe Superman couldn't say my mother because Batman had his foot on his throat the easiest word to say was Martha?"
In which I said to my brother "Zack Snider is that you"😂😂😂
And it's weird... bc how would know batman who martha is? XD Like "Save martha of what? who she is? where she is? when will you understand that i'm the smallest problem?."
I think what killed the DCEU isn't necessarily Zack Snyder per se, but the fact that they jumped the gun, they wanted an Avengers-level film as a second entry into the universe.
I say both
not really Zack’s fault nor is it because it was JL he 5th film in the DCEU, considering that they had their own DC universe already with the JL united without any build up and people did not complain.
DCEU needs to make more dark and serious story not family friendly like MCU.
@@yc_knight6370
Dark=/=quality.
Superman is lighthearted, so is Flash, WW etc.
Dark works for Batman, Constantine etc.. But it's not the answer.
@@wrestlinganime4life288 I dont think Superman lighthearted works either Superman returns isn’t fully dark from what i recall but the movie was bad too atlist in man of steel you got a great action.
Something Zack Snyder doesn't understand is that you don't to make it boring and dark to deconstruct superheroes, nor does he have to do it under a negative light, has he ever read DC - the new frontier? OH! WAIT! it is too colorful, doesn't prison rape and sex...
Can’t kill what was dead on arrival the second you picked Zack to be your architect
Warner Bros killed it's own franchise. They're just gonna blame Snyder, Jenkins and everyone else.
@Damian Rubio Snyder is a great director and storyteller .He has the respect of other big directors like Nolan and Cameron ...
The story isin the visuals .
BVS theater cut was NOT his full vision ...WB had that movie chopped up at the last minute instead of mandating The runtime at the beginning...
The ultimate cut released to massive success being #1 Blueray for 5 weeks with 4 and 5 star ratings.
Nolan had to protect MOS from WB. WB wanted the Kents to be from Chicago ..Can you imagine all the UA-cam loud mouth simpletons like the one who did this vid , bitching about that and blaming Snyder? There were no flops in the DCEU until WB butchered JL to keep their bonuses
Snyder
Ayre
Jenkins
Yan
All had issues with WB.
Even the Reeve Superman was mismanaged years ago.
So please get a clue .
@Damian Rubio it’s like...your opinion man
@@dignerds Seeing the Snyder Cut, I can see that more clearly. I blamed both originally. Now I realize WB is probably at fault for 80% of their own failure. But Snyder needs someone else to write the Superman portion of the story. He is terrible at understanding what Superman is about.
@@apreviousseagle836 lol nope he understands superman better than u lol
@@Anshumansahu23 Nah, I don't think Superman should be Nolan's Batman.
I fell in love with your videos and critique style when you described Star Wars 8 as "Cinematic Abortion."
I'm down for all the long form video essay
25:30-35. A perfect summation of the inept hackery that is infecting and ruining franchises left, right, and center.
No actual agenda. Just terrible writing and direction.
Terrific video as always, Vito. Proud to be a Patreon supporter.
The DCEU to me is the ENTIRE Animated Series
The DCAU will ALWAYS be superior to The DCEU.
@@Launchpad05 it's ridiculous that Snyder says his movies are for adults yet the DCAU a show for actual children has better writing in it's weakest episode.
Zero depth. But the real Saturday morning cartoons are ignored. Just hire Paul Dini to make a live action Batman movie
Ah, yes. The good ol' DCAU. Gonna show these to my kids in the future
@@sonicdash9652 still the best thing American animation has to offer. I also like Adventure time Gravity falls and Steven universe.
My Hero academia has been filling my hero niche way better than DC or Marvel in the recent years.
Justice League’ from the DCAU .. (cause we just won’t even talk about the one from the DCEU) was filled with GREAT storylines and the show was actually deep. Even had some mentions of politics. I honestly think we had it too good at that time with television. The DCAU is golden.
I thought man of steel was good. BvS while it had good moments, the bad ones really stuck out the most, showing it was obviously rushed out to compete with marvel, Suicide Squad was abysmal, Wonder Woman was fine, and Justice League is a Frankenstein’s monster of a film.
They should have picked Billy Zane to play Lex Luthor.
I always wanted Tellie Savalis, but then my first Lex was the fat scientifist, not the slim capitalist (which really is better, but just looks off to me)
There's multiple iterations of Lex Luthor. The BvS version of Lex was Inspired by Superman: Birthright.
They almost even look similar.
@Jakeyjakey there are some really dumb decisions that snyder made with b v s. His vision of lex luthor was one of them. Plus Lex knew both secret identities of batman and superman and in the extended cut knew of the supermans inability to see through lead.
@Jakeyjakey the characters are only as smart as the people writing them and making the decisions for them. Yes Snyder did not write the movie but like all directors he did have creative input.
@Jakeyjakey its dumb writing. More thought and effort goes into the action scenes like the warehouse scene.
That intro with the backyard wrestling jokes was phenomenal.
I personally don’t think the DC characters are enjoyed on screen as much as Marvel, other than Batman. He’s really the only character who’s had several good stand alone movies before the Avengers style team up. Marvel characters all had successful individual movies where fans got invested first. Those that didn’t benefited from playing off the ones that had already. So maybe DC rushed their ideas a bit. Also DC has leaned to the darker, more serious gritty takes. Where Marvel’s been lighthearted comic relief that didn’t take itself too serious. Maybe that plays better when ya have a bunch of ppl in costumes on screen together. Not taking itself too serious may be a plus. Even Boys which can be vulgar and darker at times doesn’t really take itself serious like DC
That is a good point to make. These past DC movies have had the worst screenplays possible, because they didn't have an identity. Oh, we are super gritty. Oh, now we throw in jokes. Our heroes are murderers or not the least bit relatable. They are also awfully edited, like, wow!
It kinda also shows how more popular (or at the very least archetypical) DC is then Marvel. You screw up a Marvel movie, nobody panics ; you screw up a DC movie and everyone loses their minds
It's the same old story over and over again, in movies and gaming. Make a plan, get the right people for it, execute, and hey, maybe have a backup plan so you don't have to scramble and Rian Johnson yourself. DC just jumped in thinking they couldn't lose, and that's basically doom.
@Thanos 6.0 true. But they also had an foundation and catalog going for them by hitting on their first few films and setting a tone. Even Iron Man had the perfect balance of humor and cynicism, IMO. As a casual fan I remember watching the first few Marvel films and enjoying them while not even knowing that an Avengers team up was in the future plans. It took time, time that I kinda feel like DC didn’t spend. They instead wanted to success of the team up while not investing the time setting it up that marvel did.
@Thanos 6.0 Why everyone is saying it's DC's fault. It's WB execs. They are the main villain.
"Who killed the DC Extended Universe?"
Well I got three words for you: Warner Bros. Executives
12:05 - "Save Francine" - 😂😂🤣 That was good
All this moron is doing is admitting that the name Martha worked .
Superman was repeating Lex's mission the way it was said to him in the previous scene ...GAWD Snyder hating UA-camrs are so dumb
Hey now, Zack Snyder wrote and directed the "strong women" of Suckerpunch.
Dumber characters who aren’t as iconic are harder to ruin
@N. O. 1 subjective
Great movie
Agreed with most of your points. One problem: Most living creatures have a progenitor (or "parent"), but even if Superman didn't, I don't see why him asking Batman to save his "mom" would resonate given the silly "1% chance of a threat" logic Batman uses. The real problem is crappy dialog/inability of the characters to communicate with each other on any level.
Wonder Woman 2 put the nails in the coffin
I think Whedon gets way too much flak for his cut of the Justice League. Every director brings their own style to a project. If you fire Jackson Pollock halfway through a painting don't expect Norman Rockwell to finish what Jackson started then call it a Jackson Pollock painting when it's done.
Also, WB execs put a major amount of restrictions and expectations onto this movie so Whedon was destined to fail. He did the best with what he was given and asked to do but the real failure was giving complete control of the entirety of the DCEU to Snyder in the first place. I imagine the powers-that-be saw Watchmen and 300 and just hired Snyder. There didn't seem to be any planning. They gave Snyder a blank check, let him do whatever he wanted and just assumed all the pieces would fall into place and whatever Snyder came up with could be a repeatable formula. Make a movie about a superhero, drain all the color, throw in some slow-mo and boom, it looks like the same creative talent was behind all of it.
It's kind of a shame the comic book movie wars are so one-sided. Not that Marvel hasn't churned out some amazing films but I can't help but think that we might've gotten even better movies if Marvel felt like they had some actual competition. Instead they can release a lukewarm film like the Eternals and still hold their head high that the MCU is still an insanely popular and lucrative franchise of movies and easily the biggest thing to happen in cinema since the first Star Wars and the first Matrix movie.
one huge problem of the dceu is the fact their second movie was batman v superman, it took marvel 8 YEARS to build up iron man vs cap through many movies like avengers and many solo movies, they rushed to it, no that’s not how it works, you need to build up the characters they didn’t atleast introduce batman in ONE movie prior. especially with justice league, could you imagine how badly the mcu failed if they made iron man, then right after civil war, then avengers right after with NO build up? it would be horrible
Ultimately it was Warner brothers trying to go in a different direction to contrast The MCU which in turn killed the core of the character of Superman and batman.
There was no patient
Snyder enhanced the core of these characters.
@@dignerds nope
Exactly, it’s ironic how the fun superhero-superman is shown to be be dark and prude and yet no one understands why it’s not getting as much success as MCU. And another problem right now is there’s a new Zack Snyder cult who just starts humping him and forget that he made BvS that actually started the demise
@@dignerds bro the brutality of Batman from dealing with so much madness, driving him half crazy, amazing the way Snyder did it
Well, now I can't wait to hear what you have to say about the Snyder Cut, whenever it comes out.
The Quentin Tarantino and Zack Snyder comparison was absolutely perfect.
2 great filmmakers.
The simpleton in this vid gets most of this stuff wrong ...It's cringe that people listen to this.
@@dignerds 2 objectively great film makers…you’re entitled to your opinion I guess, but I have to strongly disagree with your second statement. Being a great film maker doesn’t simply mean you will definitively be great in all forms and genres of film.
@@dignerds ooh some Snyder loser can't take criticism.
The ending of this video hasn't aged well because of:
a) The Snydercut, which turned out worse than the Whedon cut...
b) Army of the dead
Omg. Gunchucks had me rolling. I need a gunchucks anime right fucking now.
Bayonetta
SuiFeng
Also
RWBY Sun
How would gun chucks even work lol? How could it be used
@@mmaScholar99 just look up rwby gunchucks, its pretty cool
Your video essays are phenomenal. Keep it up!
I would strongly recommend to everyone Superman: Man of Tomorrow for an example of how to handle Superman and his supporting cast of characters well. Also Lobo is in it and that's always fun.
Kinda like rhe new Animation style of MoT but i cant stand lobo.
I know this is my opinion
This is mine: I disliked the movie... the story was delivered poorly... I did not like their Superman... note that I’ve been a Superman fan my whole life and have enjoyed virtually every take on the character... except this one🙃
I really did not enjoy that movie, how is it a good film in your opinion, and how do you feel it contributed to the Superman mythos?
@@land1877 I been a fan since birth. Literally my earliest memories are of a Superman toy I used to bring with me everywhere. MOT was good. But I see what you mean. Something didn’t gel with some aspects of it.
They need to put Lobo in a live action film ASAP. The way that the masses would love that character..... but yeah man of tomorrow was great.
The guy who replaced Tim Burton from his Batman run..... ruined everything.
As soon as you said "when Jesus had to snap his neck?" I immediately smashed that subscribe button. 😂
Well...what do you think God is going to do to the devil in the Christian myths?
Zod was genetically engineered to not stop...
Superman killed zod AND the other 2 in the 80s comics..Faora even offered him sex to spare her.
It all went bad when they decided to kill Jonathan Kent in a way that gave Clark a serious case of PTSD. He's been brooding ever since. BvS he goes to the mountains and talks to imaginary Jonathan. He tells Clark a story about watching horses drown and hearing their cries in his dreams. Clark asks if the dreams ever stop, alluding to the fact he's having his own traumatic dreams. PTSD.
21:10 The idea that being smarter than someone else means that one can deduce everything about their past intuitively falls apart when one considers that even the most brilliant human can not accurately deduce every hunting experience that a predatory animal has ever experienced or known what freak storms that they have survived exposure to sans further clear evidence of such despite being much more intelligent than they are.
It is almost as much of a worn-out cliche as The Chess Master character type who can predict peoples' every movement as if human minds and societies operate according to a incredibly simple, rigid set of rules which can not ever be violated in secret or be subject to anomalous activity.
That’s the thing with Lex in the comics he is smart enough to deduce a lot of stuff but he has certain restrictions
I like both this video and it's uncensored version. But in the wake of new info, you REALLY need to follow this up with a sequel.
It seems you didn't know back then about Zack's daughter. Could have left that out too.
Only things I agree are that it was the executives wanting to be like Marvel and to release the Snyder Cut. Which finally is gonna happen!
Cringe
UA-cam: #1 Vito is an Edgelord, demonotize him.
“Look at this closely, see when the upper floors collapse we need the fireball to be bigger.”
Can’t believe you made me laugh at the tragedy that shall not be named😂😂😂
So glad UA-cam was able to finally release their cut of *Who Killed the DC Extended Universe?”*
The major problem is that DCEU didn't flesh out characters before the JL movie. It felt rushed. The 90's DC cartoons did a much better at building up the Justice League.
very true
It didn't do that because it was meant to be a Superman saga with other DC characters as supporting characters around Superman. Superman was meant to be the main character, but then WB got creedy and ordered changes.
@@Pikashades and also Warner Bros wanted to play catch-up with Marvel
@@thekiller7994 That's basically what I said, but with different words.
“Save Francine !” Lol great work man
Oh wow was not expecting that Louie Louie Christian parody to come back into my life
Love how when jimmy got shot it cut immediately to an add
Funny, I got kicked out of confirmation class for asking why Catholics were so against birth control if God could make a virgin pregnant.
i’ll never forget the confusion and anger i felt watching this movie. i haven’t watched it since then lmao
Something is wrong with Zack. His mind is a mess. He cannot tell a coherent story.
@@TheArtman2023 he's a visual director not a narrative director
@John Smith Yh, it was clearly shit
it can't be killed when it was never alive to begin with
...I'd like to see that wrestling footage in its entirety
I never knew symbolism, trying new concepts and stories in a superhero movies was a bad thing
One thing I want to point out on the topic of Lex Luthor somehow magically knowing Superman's identity in BVS, is that it's more of a fault on the Man of Steel film. In Man of Steel, Lois was able to easily track down Superman, his mother and his mother's farm in Smallville with the resources she had, making it seem pretty easy for anyone to discover his identity if they really wanted to know, especially if they have the resources available.
*DC Comics* Alright here’s our vault with collection of all storylines and lore of every DC Character to read about.
*Snyder:* Nah, won’t be needing that. First scene I want Batman R-ped in prison
*DC Comics:* What?!
*Warner Bros Execs:* He’s hired!
He never said that. Someone else claimed that Snyder had said that and as we all know, to create rumor, all you need to do is claim there is a rumor.
@@Pikashades he did say it. He said that in his movie he would have batman prison raped. All because he thought he didn't consider the dark Knight trilogy dark.
@@dracodraco8003 which part? Wanted to or just would have?
@@Pikashades he said batman would be prison raped in his movie. That's all. He really is quite sick in the head tbh. Probably needs help.
@@dracodraco8003 so he said he would have had his version of Batman Begins be like that but not that he wanted it. Can you enlighten me on WHEN Snyder allegegly said that? Was it between Man of Steel and BvS or so long time ago that he might have changed his mind? Or if he said it in an interview or in a conversation?
Combination of Batman v Superman being an absolute trainwreck & Josstice League somehow being even worse
Release the Vito Cut!
I was wondering where I heard a Transgendered Werewolves joke before, and then you showed me that joke! And now, like Batman knowing Superman’s mother’s name, it hit me! It came from this channel! Thank you for reminding me of the joke. Not knowing where it came from was killing me! And I also did not realise that I had not subscribed to you, because I was too busy focusing on how great your videos are, so I did exactly that!
I also talk about transgender werewolves in my Last Jedi review!
@@vito Yeah! That’s probably where I saw it. Great video, by the way. Very concise and to the point are some of the reasons I enjoyed it.
@@vito gotta watch it again!
XD
12:32 Wait, how does Lois know what Superman said?
That would mean Lois made an assumption that means she's telepathic too!
Good Question.
Oh shit i kinda just clicked the video without noticing this was a video by Vito. This was such a in depth video, great job!
Oh GOD is that stuff about Sgt. Murderboy actually true? Is he dead? (I'm terrible at reading sarcasm sometimes, please forgive me.)
F
Jessie Eisenberg making his version of Lex Luthor basically Max Landis was hilarious.
19:38 LOL! I LITERALLY CAN STOP REPLAYING THAT BIT!
Lol
Holy crap, Xmas day 2020 is the first time in my life I've ever heard someone outside of my family use the term "dirt farmer". For the last 40 years I just thought was a turn of phrase just with them...
That term is in the dictionary
A lot of people forget DC is in this mess right now because of Zack Snyder
hey vito! looking forward to the day you bring back the vito show! stay happy my friend
Batman V Superman is what destroyed the foundation of the DCEU. They had everything in place to make a well set up universe without copying off of Marvel, and unfortunately, they killed Superman within the second movie and it all went downhill from there
@Clifford Terrell Marvel had better producters and writers? Well, it's true but, tell that to Captain Marvel.
Who killed DCEU??? I will tell you who. The toxic fans of DC killed DCEU!!! The first film of DCEU was the greatest of all!!! It was the Green Lantern film!! A great film!!! If the DCEU has started with that film now DCEU would be great!!! BUT NO!!! The toxic DC fans hated that movie!!! And I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND why they hated!!! Until now Green Lantern is THE BEST DCEU movie!!! The best!!! BUT the toxic DC fans did NOT supported at all!!! Now you have a lot shit DC movies!!! It is the toxic DC fans who killed DCEU!!!
I liked this video for the ending... thank you for being compassionate 😊
The irony of you being an edge lord in your video while calling Snyder an edge lord is not lost on me. Still, good breakdown, as always.
His breakdown was crap...So.much wrong I don't know where to begin...
Cringe
Isn't Superman from farmer parents? He should have said "save my mama" while crying about being unable to save her or something like that. That should make Batman go "oh shit this guy is also just "human" "
Or maybe create some actual good conflict for the fight to happen and give a good reason for them to stop fighting, basically change the whole movie.
Dceu like a kid trying to complete a marathon with boneless legs.Until Aquaman he crawl at ground after Aquaman,WW and Shazam it stand take a run little bit and with Birds of Prey and WW2 it kiss to ground again.
and now, in the ground being beaten on and on by marvel the dceu makes the one logic step, make a movie about blue beetle!! who the f**k is that! is like ant-man? at least marvel had the pockets and the reputation to deliver the story of a class c hero with marvelous results but in this stage? with all the failures, the wb execs can really spend more money in an obvious flop?
@@horaciofuenzalida2266 I really want DC give C ,F tier most ridicolous characters to Marvel.Like If Dc had vision of Marvel we prob had Plastic Man movie right now.But they rather cheapened to value of their biggest IPs.Batman and Superman become $5 hookers on streets everyone using it for their joy.When I see him in second season of Batwoman as antagonist Im just done with Batman.
Zod was engineered to protect Kryptonand in his mind getting the codex and turning Earth into Krypton he would be doing that. Makes perfect sense to me.
I was legit confused here, by the thumbnail. I knew I watched this before...ol' UA-cam censors and Zack Snyder fanboys probably flagged the original video into oblivion.
Just look at Ezra Miller run. Of all the stupid decisions in the DC movies, why would you cast an actor as The Flash who runs like he has cerebral palsy?
Unpopular opinion: I thought Man of Steel was a pretty good super hero movie in comparison to half of marvels stuff, but mostly because of the action scenes
I love how Clark was forced into a hard choice and chooses earth over Krypton ..And his journey of self discovery ...MOS was a great adoption story...
Well, Warner Bros and Snyder may have killed the franchise, but now Patty Jenkins has officially buried it.
Wait a sec, are you really telling me the church classic "Pharaoh Pharaoh" isn't an original song? Is my childhood a lie?
11:21 this explanition almost makes sense but It doesnt for one reason: Batman knows that Clark Kent is Superman right? So Batman didnt bother to search If he had any relatives?
A great detective makes sure to always look into every single part of the person they’re investigating
@Failingpepper 11 He's actually developed immunity to the gas the last I checked.
I see a Vito video about Star Wars or Superheroes, and I click, it's that Simple😌
He’s got that Italian touch. 👌
I just watched this like 3 days ago. Sucks the original is no longer on UA-cam :(
Zack Snyder.
Joss whedon
I think DC went with him because of the success with dark knight gritty and violent depiction of batman.
one of the most underrated youtuber
We need a full video on Bibleman...right now.
And get The Cinema Snob to watch it with him.
Awesome vid!
The fact WB gave Synder any creative control is absurd. Literally the worst person for the job.
Studios have a habit of giving Snyder too much control, let’s just say there’s a reason why barely anybody knows James Gunn wrote Snyder’s Dawn Of The Dead remake because Snyder took every joke Gunn wrote into the film and either threw it out or turned the jokes into downer and depressing scenes with zero humour
@@mrcritical6751 I had no idea James Gunn wrote Dawn lol. Funny, I think Dawn is probably Snyder's best movie. I guess I know why now
Yep, Snyder pretty much took Gunn’s script and either ripped out the jokes or recontextualised them into serious scenes. For example Gunn wrote a scene where some of the characters walk around a video store and comically point out the pictures and items with the most annoying celebrities they could find and start talking about how thankful they were for those celebrities to be dead, Snyder saw that and changed it into the scene where the guy in a very downer and pessimistic way says everybody they ever knew in their life was dead
Sgt. Murderboy & "Gun-Chuks" is HILARIOUS.
Warner Bros needs to stop hiring writers, producers, and directors who know absolutely nothing about the characters they are trying to direct, produce or write about. They have to hire those geeks and nerds that still live in moms basement and have spent their entire life following these superheroes. Like me!
Same with star wars. Force is not female at all.
Wtffff i honestly was terrified when i saw the views number. Bruh such a good video oh my god...keep up the good work man hope you blow up soon.
Lol now i feel obliged to share it to my friends who probably won't care to even open the link cuz they don't know "what's a DC?"
Damn! You had some great wrestling days, huh?
"Give someone an old camera, they can create magic. Give someone golden camera, they will create shit"-David Hacking Bonilla.
See this is why I can't stand the people who want Zack's director's cut of Justice League. Their gonna get all the things they hated in Man of Steel and BvS
We still dont know because the cut was 4 hours and zack seems to change and rework the whole movie so who knows
@@sakuragi1062 fans are huge hypocrites, they despised Snyder 4 years ago, now they love him
@@alexwallar8608 Yep sadly thats how it works. The reason the people hated both MoS and BvS is the same reason that some people start loving those movies after 4 years. I sincerly hope ZSJL becomes a hit cuz that guy has gone through a lot, but I dont think the critics are going to go easy on it since majority of them claimed that the snyder cut doesnt exist few years ago
*nah your insane man, I didn’t like man of steel that much I enjoyed parts of BVS but the SNYDER CUT IS GLORIOUS*
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#MakeTheBatfleckMovie
Thats simple: the guiltys are Kevin Tsujihara, Toby Emmerich, Geoff Johns, Jon Berg, Diane Nielsen, Joss Whedon & Walter Hamada.
I hate Zack Snyders interpretation of DC characters..... But God damn the man of steel hanz zimmer theme is FANTASTIC
Hope this reupload either makes more views than the last or at least gets a sequel could this is quite interesting
I will say Suicide Squad killed it.. Batman Vs. Superman shoveled the dirt on the coffin and Justice League held the ceremony! ☠️
They all three are the worst movies I've seen in years, and i liked Green Lantern and Transformers for what it was..
The Flash TV series and Arrow was real campy but was still better than any of DC's movies..
I was in school when the dceu started and now that it has closed as I am in my early 20 with unfinished stories
I loved Man Of Steel and I'm a long time Superman fan. This was a different take on the character and there was nothing wrong with it. Come @ me....