Who Killed the DC Extended Universe? (YouTube Cut)

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  • The DCEU film universe was meant to rival the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but fell FAR SHORT of that lofty goal. Today we're reviewing just what went wrong: how an accomplished director led the DC Comics cinematic universe down a strange dark path, giving birth to a trilogy of comic book movies (Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Justice League) which may go down in history as one of the most elaborate and expensive disasters in Hollywood history.
    This video originally released in 2018, but was demonetized by UA-cam for references to real world tragedies and a few edgy jokes. Those portions have been removed. If you would like to watch the original uncensored cut, visit: / thevitoshow .
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  • @vito
    @vito  3 роки тому +258

    This video originally released in 2018, but was demonetized and put on UA-cam's search engine blacklist for references to real world tragedies and a few edgy jokes. Those portions have been removed. If you would like to watch the original uncensored cut, visit: patreon.com/thevitoshow.

    • @COCO-tm3gp
      @COCO-tm3gp 3 роки тому +9

      THANKS BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @blacktoothfox677
      @blacktoothfox677 3 роки тому +5

      merry Xmas, hope you n' yours stay healthy. - UK

    • @dereksanime5289
      @dereksanime5289 3 роки тому +7

      GODDAMN IT UA-cam!!!

    • @thewizard7396
      @thewizard7396 3 роки тому +9

      Can't spell demonitise without demon

    • @navarrofamily9538
      @navarrofamily9538 3 роки тому +4

      Man I hate when UA-cam always has to change UA-camrs videos because it always has to deal with violence, cussing, and real world tragedy. Okay maybe not all of that but you get it. It's like there showing an example of how dceu movies are well in this video violence and real world tragedy like when superman fighting zod and many of Metropolis buildings falling which kills people in the city and for the violence part batman killing criminals with his bat tank and also shooting criminals with guns which batman doesn't use in the comics! I'm sorry vito that UA-cam had to change your video.

  • @JamesJimmaHarding
    @JamesJimmaHarding 2 роки тому +26

    DC's glory days were in the DCAU era (1992-2006). Nothing will ever beat the animated universe's layered story-telling, perfect casting choices, and not being afraid to tackle dark, even taboo subjects, and that's *without* taking nostalgia into account.

  • @Pescatore
    @Pescatore 3 роки тому +310

    RIP Sgt Murderboy

    • @vito
      @vito  3 роки тому +64

      Miss that guy

    • @hmgirlpopuri5819
      @hmgirlpopuri5819 3 роки тому +21

      @@vito If only the gunchucks had

    • @Retr-xk7xm
      @Retr-xk7xm 3 роки тому +11

      @@vito if you don’t mind me asking what did hell happened with the gunchucks and at the time of this merry Christmas

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 3 роки тому +3

      I want the government to force Zac Snyder to change his name to Sgt. Murder boy. It just seems appropriate.

    • @goosebumpsemiliano9104
      @goosebumpsemiliano9104 3 роки тому +3

      @@vito I would like to see that whole battle. Probably more entertaining then this entire trilogy. Btw Love your video. #1 youtuber

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason3740 3 роки тому +193

    Batman has, quite simply, one obvious motivation. Bruce, to the best of his ability, wants to make Gotham a safe place for kids so that no child has to ever experience what he did. That's it. I've only been reading Batman for six decades, I'm retyping what has been said a zillion times. Leave out the fake morality, please.

    • @ninjablack4347
      @ninjablack4347 3 роки тому +46

      Its funny that people who wrote Justice League on cartoonnetwerok knew this and had batman become a part timer on the show rather than a full time member because Batman was busy in gotham

    • @AnubiSaO
      @AnubiSaO 3 роки тому +23

      @@ninjablack4347 that justice league was the best prototype for any dc movie, but they went full ret@rd and go all dark with snyder, I mean just imagine a movie with that kind of set with all the group in the satellite and the romance between wonder woman and batman well executed and not this lame "trilogy".

    • @josefrootgum
      @josefrootgum 3 роки тому +16

      @Dennis Mason you're talking about the comics and the cartoon Batman. The DCEU Batman is a weird one. I remember him beating up Deadshot in front of his daughter in that Suicide Squad movie. Very odd.

    • @dennismason3740
      @dennismason3740 3 роки тому +9

      @@josefrootgum - well well well. So for 67 years I have admired a character 82 years old who swore that no child should experience what he did and so lived by that promise. I do not acknowledge that cynical shitstorm of egomania created by Warners and Snyder.

    • @osc-oldschoolclips5204
      @osc-oldschoolclips5204 3 роки тому

      YES !!!

  • @hephsforge9236
    @hephsforge9236 3 роки тому +59

    Superman’s origins really takes inspiration from Moses- the baby saved from death by being sent in a basket to a family of a different race. Raised as one of their own until realizing his foreign origins and gaining a new sense of responsibility upon such a revelation.

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому

      Donner framed Superman as Jesus. And the creators were fine with it.
      The 1st appearance of Christian symbolism in Superman lore was Action Comics #1 page 4

    • @hephsforge9236
      @hephsforge9236 2 роки тому +6

      @@dignerds what does that have to do with what I said? I only ask cause I can’t tell if you’re disagreeing with me or just stating a fun fact.
      Oh and yeah I’m serious that I can’t tell, IK speaking through text can make intent nearly impossible to read but I am genuinely unsure because nothing of what you said really supports or goes against what I said.

    • @daustin8888
      @daustin8888 2 роки тому +4

      Which makes sense. His creators were Jewish.
      I honestly cringe when people say his origins are based off Jesus.
      They obviously are thinking of the Richard Donner film more than his original origin.

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds Рік тому

      ​@@daustin8888 Jesus was Jewish silly

    • @daustin8888
      @daustin8888 Рік тому +1

      @@dignerds Who started a sect that Jewish people reject.
      Moses is their guy

  • @inferno0020
    @inferno0020 3 роки тому +219

    Hugh Jackman should play Zack Snyder in a parody of Zack Snyder's making of the DCEU

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 3 роки тому +13

      Zack without his beard looks like a bizzare mashup of Hugh Jackman and Andy Sandberg

    • @aashiv93
      @aashiv93 3 роки тому +9

      Honestly, that's a movie I'd watch.

    • @Fan-do8xy
      @Fan-do8xy 3 роки тому +3

      I'll watch that movie

    • @johnotto-wl2yh
      @johnotto-wl2yh 3 дні тому

      Nah Robert Downey would be a better choice.

  • @chriscross8547
    @chriscross8547 3 роки тому +459

    "Lois Lane is the key to all this."
    - George Lucas

    • @ServantBerserkerZero
      @ServantBerserkerZero 3 роки тому +7

      Wrong. Albert Einstein said that.

    • @markparkinson6947
      @markparkinson6947 3 роки тому +11

      @@ServantBerserkerZero Nah, it was definitely Hal from Malcolm In The Middle.

    • @Theoppositesex
      @Theoppositesex 3 роки тому +1

      If we can get her working.....

    • @ashernotheis76
      @ashernotheis76 3 роки тому

      I want to like your comment, but it's at 214 likes.

    • @chriscross8547
      @chriscross8547 3 роки тому

      @@ashernotheis76 what's one more?

  • @edamitep1533
    @edamitep1533 3 роки тому +109

    For some reason the censor bars, and the replacement of the actual event with "real world tragedy not allowed to be discussed on youtube" gives this a nice, fresh, take lol

  • @zur137
    @zur137 3 роки тому +250

    I was going to give it another chance but after they still kept amber heard for Aquaman 2 I’ll drink a smoothie made of glass before I watch another DC movie.

    • @nightcross1030
      @nightcross1030 3 роки тому +23

      She's a strong female characte--(Googles)--oh... OHHHHHH...

    • @wrestlinganime4life288
      @wrestlinganime4life288 3 роки тому +20

      It seems she might actually get replaced.
      James wan want an Asian actress for another character, in case the situation goes worse

    • @jeggsonvohees2201
      @jeggsonvohees2201 3 роки тому +5

      Johnny lost, trump lost, get over it.

    • @zur137
      @zur137 3 роки тому +5

      @@wrestlinganime4life288 I definitely hope so.

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 3 роки тому +5

      @@wrestlinganime4life288 I hope not, asian girls look weird (weirder than white girls, which is bad enough) with that shade of red hair.
      Even in anime ya weebs

  • @Prod.ByLito1997
    @Prod.ByLito1997 3 роки тому +18

    I love the instant voice/tone change to “certain real world tragedy”

  • @maximk9964
    @maximk9964 3 роки тому +49

    I think what killed the DCEU isn't necessarily Zack Snyder per se, but the fact that they jumped the gun, they wanted an Avengers-level film as a second entry into the universe.

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 3 роки тому +12

      I say both

    • @MW2proification
      @MW2proification 3 роки тому +9

      not really Zack’s fault nor is it because it was JL he 5th film in the DCEU, considering that they had their own DC universe already with the JL united without any build up and people did not complain.

    • @yc_knight6370
      @yc_knight6370 3 роки тому +12

      DCEU needs to make more dark and serious story not family friendly like MCU.

    • @wrestlinganime4life288
      @wrestlinganime4life288 3 роки тому +8

      @@yc_knight6370
      Dark=/=quality.
      Superman is lighthearted, so is Flash, WW etc.
      Dark works for Batman, Constantine etc.. But it's not the answer.

    • @sakuragi1062
      @sakuragi1062 3 роки тому

      @@wrestlinganime4life288 I dont think Superman lighthearted works either Superman returns isn’t fully dark from what i recall but the movie was bad too atlist in man of steel you got a great action.

  • @TheShockVox
    @TheShockVox 3 роки тому +7

    Can’t kill what was dead on arrival the second you picked Zack to be your architect

  • @joaomotta7791
    @joaomotta7791 3 роки тому +9

    Something Zack Snyder doesn't understand is that you don't to make it boring and dark to deconstruct superheroes, nor does he have to do it under a negative light, has he ever read DC - the new frontier? OH! WAIT! it is too colorful, doesn't prison rape and sex...

  • @SiddharthShenoy
    @SiddharthShenoy 3 роки тому +26

    This video: **exists**
    Me: *"You're shorter than I expected."*

  • @cocokolah8567
    @cocokolah8567 3 роки тому +66

    They should have picked Billy Zane to play Lex Luthor.

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 3 роки тому +4

      I always wanted Tellie Savalis, but then my first Lex was the fat scientifist, not the slim capitalist (which really is better, but just looks off to me)

    • @9776722
      @9776722 3 роки тому +2

      There's multiple iterations of Lex Luthor. The BvS version of Lex was Inspired by Superman: Birthright.
      They almost even look similar.

    • @SuCKeRPunCH187
      @SuCKeRPunCH187 3 роки тому +3

      @Jakeyjakey there are some really dumb decisions that snyder made with b v s. His vision of lex luthor was one of them. Plus Lex knew both secret identities of batman and superman and in the extended cut knew of the supermans inability to see through lead.

    • @SuCKeRPunCH187
      @SuCKeRPunCH187 3 роки тому +1

      @Jakeyjakey the characters are only as smart as the people writing them and making the decisions for them. Yes Snyder did not write the movie but like all directors he did have creative input.

    • @SuCKeRPunCH187
      @SuCKeRPunCH187 3 роки тому +2

      @Jakeyjakey its dumb writing. More thought and effort goes into the action scenes like the warehouse scene.

  • @jd.online
    @jd.online 3 роки тому +5

    one huge problem of the dceu is the fact their second movie was batman v superman, it took marvel 8 YEARS to build up iron man vs cap through many movies like avengers and many solo movies, they rushed to it, no that’s not how it works, you need to build up the characters they didn’t atleast introduce batman in ONE movie prior. especially with justice league, could you imagine how badly the mcu failed if they made iron man, then right after civil war, then avengers right after with NO build up? it would be horrible

  • @matane2465
    @matane2465 3 роки тому +49

    Hey now, Zack Snyder wrote and directed the "strong women" of Suckerpunch.

    • @n_o1166
      @n_o1166 3 роки тому +7

      God that movie was horrible

    • @JonSaul
      @JonSaul 3 роки тому +3

      Dumber characters who aren’t as iconic are harder to ruin

    • @MysticMayne
      @MysticMayne 3 роки тому +1

      @@n_o1166 subjective

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому

      Great movie

  • @mikielsahagun6054
    @mikielsahagun6054 3 роки тому +15

    Lol my brother just said "maybe Superman couldn't say my mother because Batman had his foot on his throat the easiest word to say was Martha?"
    In which I said to my brother "Zack Snider is that you"😂😂😂

    • @cesar6447
      @cesar6447 3 роки тому +2

      And it's weird... bc how would know batman who martha is? XD Like "Save martha of what? who she is? where she is? when will you understand that i'm the smallest problem?."

  • @Magidex
    @Magidex 3 роки тому +36

    I fell in love with your videos and critique style when you described Star Wars 8 as "Cinematic Abortion."
    I'm down for all the long form video essay

  • @BigJon-wb9vf
    @BigJon-wb9vf 3 роки тому +18

    Wonder Woman 2 put the nails in the coffin

  • @aeneas237
    @aeneas237 3 роки тому +9

    The comic where Jimmy is forced to marry a gorilla is as amazing as that sounds

  • @whynot1548
    @whynot1548 3 роки тому +166

    Warner Bros killed it's own franchise. They're just gonna blame Snyder, Jenkins and everyone else.

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому +14

      @Damian Rubio Snyder is a great director and storyteller .He has the respect of other big directors like Nolan and Cameron ...
      The story isin the visuals .
      BVS theater cut was NOT his full vision ...WB had that movie chopped up at the last minute instead of mandating The runtime at the beginning...
      The ultimate cut released to massive success being #1 Blueray for 5 weeks with 4 and 5 star ratings.
      Nolan had to protect MOS from WB. WB wanted the Kents to be from Chicago ..Can you imagine all the UA-cam loud mouth simpletons like the one who did this vid , bitching about that and blaming Snyder? There were no flops in the DCEU until WB butchered JL to keep their bonuses
      Snyder
      Ayre
      Jenkins
      Yan
      All had issues with WB.
      Even the Reeve Superman was mismanaged years ago.
      So please get a clue .

    • @giabaonn600
      @giabaonn600 2 роки тому +1

      @Damian Rubio it’s like...your opinion man

    • @apreviousseagle836
      @apreviousseagle836 2 роки тому +8

      @@dignerds Seeing the Snyder Cut, I can see that more clearly. I blamed both originally. Now I realize WB is probably at fault for 80% of their own failure. But Snyder needs someone else to write the Superman portion of the story. He is terrible at understanding what Superman is about.

    • @Anshumansahu23
      @Anshumansahu23 2 роки тому +4

      @@apreviousseagle836 lol nope he understands superman better than u lol

    • @apreviousseagle836
      @apreviousseagle836 2 роки тому +8

      @@Anshumansahu23 Nah, I don't think Superman should be Nolan's Batman.

  • @stabbymcstabberson3177
    @stabbymcstabberson3177 3 роки тому +17

    I thought man of steel was good. BvS while it had good moments, the bad ones really stuck out the most, showing it was obviously rushed out to compete with marvel, Suicide Squad was abysmal, Wonder Woman was fine, and Justice League is a Frankenstein’s monster of a film.

  • @YungLanxx
    @YungLanxx 3 роки тому +30

    The Quentin Tarantino and Zack Snyder comparison was absolutely perfect.

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому

      2 great filmmakers.
      The simpleton in this vid gets most of this stuff wrong ...It's cringe that people listen to this.

    • @YungLanxx
      @YungLanxx 2 роки тому +8

      @@dignerds 2 objectively great film makers…you’re entitled to your opinion I guess, but I have to strongly disagree with your second statement. Being a great film maker doesn’t simply mean you will definitively be great in all forms and genres of film.

    • @tctyt
      @tctyt 2 роки тому +2

      @@dignerds ooh some Snyder loser can't take criticism.

  • @eddscall
    @eddscall 3 роки тому +118

    The DCEU to me is the ENTIRE Animated Series

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 3 роки тому +54

      The DCAU will ALWAYS be superior to The DCEU.

    • @TheYetixOUTx
      @TheYetixOUTx 3 роки тому +39

      @@Launchpad05 it's ridiculous that Snyder says his movies are for adults yet the DCAU a show for actual children has better writing in it's weakest episode.
      Zero depth. But the real Saturday morning cartoons are ignored. Just hire Paul Dini to make a live action Batman movie

    • @sonicdash9652
      @sonicdash9652 3 роки тому +9

      Ah, yes. The good ol' DCAU. Gonna show these to my kids in the future

    • @TheYetixOUTx
      @TheYetixOUTx 3 роки тому +18

      @@sonicdash9652 still the best thing American animation has to offer. I also like Adventure time Gravity falls and Steven universe.
      My Hero academia has been filling my hero niche way better than DC or Marvel in the recent years.

    • @osc-oldschoolclips5204
      @osc-oldschoolclips5204 3 роки тому +7

      Justice League’ from the DCAU .. (cause we just won’t even talk about the one from the DCEU) was filled with GREAT storylines and the show was actually deep. Even had some mentions of politics. I honestly think we had it too good at that time with television. The DCAU is golden.

  • @iMmunashe
    @iMmunashe 3 роки тому +11

    12:05 - "Save Francine" - 😂😂🤣 That was good

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому

      All this moron is doing is admitting that the name Martha worked .
      Superman was repeating Lex's mission the way it was said to him in the previous scene ...GAWD Snyder hating UA-camrs are so dumb

  • @TastyChurro
    @TastyChurro 3 роки тому +5

    The major problem is that DCEU didn't flesh out characters before the JL movie. It felt rushed. The 90's DC cartoons did a much better at building up the Justice League.

    • @Mosa685
      @Mosa685 3 роки тому +1

      very true

    • @Pikashades
      @Pikashades 3 роки тому

      It didn't do that because it was meant to be a Superman saga with other DC characters as supporting characters around Superman. Superman was meant to be the main character, but then WB got creedy and ordered changes.

    • @thekiller7994
      @thekiller7994 3 роки тому +1

      @@Pikashades and also Warner Bros wanted to play catch-up with Marvel

    • @Pikashades
      @Pikashades 3 роки тому

      @@thekiller7994 That's basically what I said, but with different words.

  • @Rayyman
    @Rayyman 3 роки тому +51

    Ultimately it was Warner brothers trying to go in a different direction to contrast The MCU which in turn killed the core of the character of Superman and batman.

    • @yurichtube1162
      @yurichtube1162 2 роки тому +1

      There was no patient

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому +4

      Snyder enhanced the core of these characters.

    • @Ian-hj4yt
      @Ian-hj4yt 2 роки тому +5

      @@dignerds nope

    • @rajeevkunapareddy1182
      @rajeevkunapareddy1182 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly, it’s ironic how the fun superhero-superman is shown to be be dark and prude and yet no one understands why it’s not getting as much success as MCU. And another problem right now is there’s a new Zack Snyder cult who just starts humping him and forget that he made BvS that actually started the demise

    • @kingdombeats618
      @kingdombeats618 2 роки тому +1

      @@dignerds bro the brutality of Batman from dealing with so much madness, driving him half crazy, amazing the way Snyder did it

  • @PerfectTroy1
    @PerfectTroy1 3 роки тому +6

    Agreed with most of your points. One problem: Most living creatures have a progenitor (or "parent"), but even if Superman didn't, I don't see why him asking Batman to save his "mom" would resonate given the silly "1% chance of a threat" logic Batman uses. The real problem is crappy dialog/inability of the characters to communicate with each other on any level.

  • @thomasgallipoli8376
    @thomasgallipoli8376 2 роки тому +8

    25:30-35. A perfect summation of the inept hackery that is infecting and ruining franchises left, right, and center.
    No actual agenda. Just terrible writing and direction.
    Terrific video as always, Vito. Proud to be a Patreon supporter.

  • @incredibilistic
    @incredibilistic 2 роки тому +8

    I think Whedon gets way too much flak for his cut of the Justice League. Every director brings their own style to a project. If you fire Jackson Pollock halfway through a painting don't expect Norman Rockwell to finish what Jackson started then call it a Jackson Pollock painting when it's done.
    Also, WB execs put a major amount of restrictions and expectations onto this movie so Whedon was destined to fail. He did the best with what he was given and asked to do but the real failure was giving complete control of the entirety of the DCEU to Snyder in the first place. I imagine the powers-that-be saw Watchmen and 300 and just hired Snyder. There didn't seem to be any planning. They gave Snyder a blank check, let him do whatever he wanted and just assumed all the pieces would fall into place and whatever Snyder came up with could be a repeatable formula. Make a movie about a superhero, drain all the color, throw in some slow-mo and boom, it looks like the same creative talent was behind all of it.
    It's kind of a shame the comic book movie wars are so one-sided. Not that Marvel hasn't churned out some amazing films but I can't help but think that we might've gotten even better movies if Marvel felt like they had some actual competition. Instead they can release a lukewarm film like the Eternals and still hold their head high that the MCU is still an insanely popular and lucrative franchise of movies and easily the biggest thing to happen in cinema since the first Star Wars and the first Matrix movie.

  • @GoatMalp
    @GoatMalp 2 роки тому +2

    That intro with the backyard wrestling jokes was phenomenal.

  • @tjanderson5892
    @tjanderson5892 3 роки тому +74

    I personally don’t think the DC characters are enjoyed on screen as much as Marvel, other than Batman. He’s really the only character who’s had several good stand alone movies before the Avengers style team up. Marvel characters all had successful individual movies where fans got invested first. Those that didn’t benefited from playing off the ones that had already. So maybe DC rushed their ideas a bit. Also DC has leaned to the darker, more serious gritty takes. Where Marvel’s been lighthearted comic relief that didn’t take itself too serious. Maybe that plays better when ya have a bunch of ppl in costumes on screen together. Not taking itself too serious may be a plus. Even Boys which can be vulgar and darker at times doesn’t really take itself serious like DC

    • @MaimutaEvoluata
      @MaimutaEvoluata 3 роки тому +11

      That is a good point to make. These past DC movies have had the worst screenplays possible, because they didn't have an identity. Oh, we are super gritty. Oh, now we throw in jokes. Our heroes are murderers or not the least bit relatable. They are also awfully edited, like, wow!

    • @christopherrichardson2945
      @christopherrichardson2945 3 роки тому +13

      It kinda also shows how more popular (or at the very least archetypical) DC is then Marvel. You screw up a Marvel movie, nobody panics ; you screw up a DC movie and everyone loses their minds

    • @makani9004
      @makani9004 3 роки тому +7

      It's the same old story over and over again, in movies and gaming. Make a plan, get the right people for it, execute, and hey, maybe have a backup plan so you don't have to scramble and Rian Johnson yourself. DC just jumped in thinking they couldn't lose, and that's basically doom.

    • @tjanderson5892
      @tjanderson5892 3 роки тому +3

      @Thanos 6.0 true. But they also had an foundation and catalog going for them by hitting on their first few films and setting a tone. Even Iron Man had the perfect balance of humor and cynicism, IMO. As a casual fan I remember watching the first few Marvel films and enjoying them while not even knowing that an Avengers team up was in the future plans. It took time, time that I kinda feel like DC didn’t spend. They instead wanted to success of the team up while not investing the time setting it up that marvel did.

    • @abdurrahmanfarhan8647
      @abdurrahmanfarhan8647 3 роки тому +2

      @Thanos 6.0 Why everyone is saying it's DC's fault. It's WB execs. They are the main villain.

  • @pasteghost428
    @pasteghost428 3 роки тому +23

    Omg. Gunchucks had me rolling. I need a gunchucks anime right fucking now.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 роки тому +2

      Bayonetta
      SuiFeng
      Also
      RWBY Sun

    • @TheFightingMan101
      @TheFightingMan101 3 роки тому

      How would gun chucks even work lol? How could it be used

    • @blitz4779
      @blitz4779 3 роки тому

      @@TheFightingMan101 just look up rwby gunchucks, its pretty cool

  • @halsteadisfat
    @halsteadisfat 3 роки тому +39

    UA-cam: #1 Vito is an Edgelord, demonotize him.

  • @Deadsticle
    @Deadsticle 3 роки тому +66

    I would strongly recommend to everyone Superman: Man of Tomorrow for an example of how to handle Superman and his supporting cast of characters well. Also Lobo is in it and that's always fun.

    • @t.a6159
      @t.a6159 3 роки тому

      Kinda like rhe new Animation style of MoT but i cant stand lobo.

    • @land1877
      @land1877 3 роки тому +3

      I know this is my opinion
      This is mine: I disliked the movie... the story was delivered poorly... I did not like their Superman... note that I’ve been a Superman fan my whole life and have enjoyed virtually every take on the character... except this one🙃

    • @kuda9464
      @kuda9464 3 роки тому

      I really did not enjoy that movie, how is it a good film in your opinion, and how do you feel it contributed to the Superman mythos?

    • @Kal-El207
      @Kal-El207 3 роки тому +1

      @@land1877 I been a fan since birth. Literally my earliest memories are of a Superman toy I used to bring with me everywhere. MOT was good. But I see what you mean. Something didn’t gel with some aspects of it.

    • @osc-oldschoolclips5204
      @osc-oldschoolclips5204 3 роки тому

      They need to put Lobo in a live action film ASAP. The way that the masses would love that character..... but yeah man of tomorrow was great.

  • @TheMasonAguilar
    @TheMasonAguilar 3 роки тому +16

    i’ll never forget the confusion and anger i felt watching this movie. i haven’t watched it since then lmao

    • @TheArtman2023
      @TheArtman2023 3 роки тому +4

      Something is wrong with Zack. His mind is a mess. He cannot tell a coherent story.

    • @vanquese8947
      @vanquese8947 3 роки тому +5

      @@TheArtman2023 he's a visual director not a narrative director

    • @user-vc8wi7ff1j
      @user-vc8wi7ff1j 2 роки тому +2

      @John Smith Yh, it was clearly shit

  • @wrayday7149
    @wrayday7149 3 роки тому +7

    The guy who replaced Tim Burton from his Batman run..... ruined everything.

  • @somericanguy
    @somericanguy 3 роки тому +2

    Your video essays are phenomenal. Keep it up!

  • @TheJanissary90
    @TheJanissary90 3 роки тому +22

    Dceu like a kid trying to complete a marathon with boneless legs.Until Aquaman he crawl at ground after Aquaman,WW and Shazam it stand take a run little bit and with Birds of Prey and WW2 it kiss to ground again.

    • @horaciofuenzalida2266
      @horaciofuenzalida2266 3 роки тому +2

      and now, in the ground being beaten on and on by marvel the dceu makes the one logic step, make a movie about blue beetle!! who the f**k is that! is like ant-man? at least marvel had the pockets and the reputation to deliver the story of a class c hero with marvelous results but in this stage? with all the failures, the wb execs can really spend more money in an obvious flop?

    • @TheJanissary90
      @TheJanissary90 3 роки тому

      @@horaciofuenzalida2266 I really want DC give C ,F tier most ridicolous characters to Marvel.Like If Dc had vision of Marvel we prob had Plastic Man movie right now.But they rather cheapened to value of their biggest IPs.Batman and Superman become $5 hookers on streets everyone using it for their joy.When I see him in second season of Batwoman as antagonist Im just done with Batman.

  • @MrChupacabra555
    @MrChupacabra555 3 роки тому +9

    Well, now I can't wait to hear what you have to say about the Snyder Cut, whenever it comes out.

  • @Vesohag
    @Vesohag 3 роки тому +12

    It seems you didn't know back then about Zack's daughter. Could have left that out too.
    Only things I agree are that it was the executives wanting to be like Marvel and to release the Snyder Cut. Which finally is gonna happen!

  • @lebronofsteel3153
    @lebronofsteel3153 3 роки тому +3

    Batman V Superman is what destroyed the foundation of the DCEU. They had everything in place to make a well set up universe without copying off of Marvel, and unfortunately, they killed Superman within the second movie and it all went downhill from there

    • @sonicdash9652
      @sonicdash9652 3 роки тому

      @Clifford Terrell Marvel had better producters and writers? Well, it's true but, tell that to Captain Marvel.

    • @giannastavros4653
      @giannastavros4653 3 роки тому

      Who killed DCEU??? I will tell you who. The toxic fans of DC killed DCEU!!! The first film of DCEU was the greatest of all!!! It was the Green Lantern film!! A great film!!! If the DCEU has started with that film now DCEU would be great!!! BUT NO!!! The toxic DC fans hated that movie!!! And I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND why they hated!!! Until now Green Lantern is THE BEST DCEU movie!!! The best!!! BUT the toxic DC fans did NOT supported at all!!! Now you have a lot shit DC movies!!! It is the toxic DC fans who killed DCEU!!!

  • @pdzombie1906
    @pdzombie1906 2 роки тому +3

    The ending of this video hasn't aged well because of:
    a) The Snydercut, which turned out worse than the Whedon cut...
    b) Army of the dead

  • @kingrainbow5432
    @kingrainbow5432 3 роки тому +10

    ...I'd like to see that wrestling footage in its entirety

  • @christopher1133
    @christopher1133 3 роки тому +4

    It all went bad when they decided to kill Jonathan Kent in a way that gave Clark a serious case of PTSD. He's been brooding ever since. BvS he goes to the mountains and talks to imaginary Jonathan. He tells Clark a story about watching horses drown and hearing their cries in his dreams. Clark asks if the dreams ever stop, alluding to the fact he's having his own traumatic dreams. PTSD.

  • @chidieberenwadike4165
    @chidieberenwadike4165 2 роки тому +2

    "Who killed the DC Extended Universe?"
    Well I got three words for you: Warner Bros. Executives

  • @dahdiniliya2646
    @dahdiniliya2646 3 роки тому +8

    I never knew symbolism, trying new concepts and stories in a superhero movies was a bad thing

  • @MrJonathanshammer
    @MrJonathanshammer 3 роки тому +4

    The fact WB gave Synder any creative control is absurd. Literally the worst person for the job.

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 3 роки тому +3

      Studios have a habit of giving Snyder too much control, let’s just say there’s a reason why barely anybody knows James Gunn wrote Snyder’s Dawn Of The Dead remake because Snyder took every joke Gunn wrote into the film and either threw it out or turned the jokes into downer and depressing scenes with zero humour

    • @MrJonathanshammer
      @MrJonathanshammer 3 роки тому +1

      @@mrcritical6751 I had no idea James Gunn wrote Dawn lol. Funny, I think Dawn is probably Snyder's best movie. I guess I know why now

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 3 роки тому +4

      Yep, Snyder pretty much took Gunn’s script and either ripped out the jokes or recontextualised them into serious scenes. For example Gunn wrote a scene where some of the characters walk around a video store and comically point out the pictures and items with the most annoying celebrities they could find and start talking about how thankful they were for those celebrities to be dead, Snyder saw that and changed it into the scene where the guy in a very downer and pessimistic way says everybody they ever knew in their life was dead

  • @vicecityrocks1
    @vicecityrocks1 3 роки тому +14

    Unpopular opinion: I thought Man of Steel was a pretty good super hero movie in comparison to half of marvels stuff, but mostly because of the action scenes

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому +3

      I love how Clark was forced into a hard choice and chooses earth over Krypton ..And his journey of self discovery ...MOS was a great adoption story...

  • @DeVstatrOmga
    @DeVstatrOmga 3 роки тому +8

    *DC Comics* Alright here’s our vault with collection of all storylines and lore of every DC Character to read about.
    *Snyder:* Nah, won’t be needing that. First scene I want Batman R-ped in prison
    *DC Comics:* What?!
    *Warner Bros Execs:* He’s hired!

    • @Pikashades
      @Pikashades 3 роки тому

      He never said that. Someone else claimed that Snyder had said that and as we all know, to create rumor, all you need to do is claim there is a rumor.

    • @dracodraco8003
      @dracodraco8003 3 роки тому +6

      @@Pikashades he did say it. He said that in his movie he would have batman prison raped. All because he thought he didn't consider the dark Knight trilogy dark.

    • @Pikashades
      @Pikashades 3 роки тому

      @@dracodraco8003 which part? Wanted to or just would have?

    • @dracodraco8003
      @dracodraco8003 3 роки тому +5

      @@Pikashades he said batman would be prison raped in his movie. That's all. He really is quite sick in the head tbh. Probably needs help.

    • @Pikashades
      @Pikashades 3 роки тому

      @@dracodraco8003 so he said he would have had his version of Batman Begins be like that but not that he wanted it. Can you enlighten me on WHEN Snyder allegegly said that? Was it between Man of Steel and BvS or so long time ago that he might have changed his mind? Or if he said it in an interview or in a conversation?

  • @TheHeroHaven
    @TheHeroHaven Рік тому +3

    A lot of people forget DC is in this mess right now because of Zack Snyder

  • @Oldschool1943
    @Oldschool1943 2 роки тому +3

    it can't be killed when it was never alive to begin with

  • @the-dark-side.
    @the-dark-side. Рік тому +6

    Zack Snyder.

  • @ryanhenderson8658
    @ryanhenderson8658 3 роки тому +9

    As soon as you said "when Jesus had to snap his neck?" I immediately smashed that subscribe button. 😂

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому

      Well...what do you think God is going to do to the devil in the Christian myths?
      Zod was genetically engineered to not stop...
      Superman killed zod AND the other 2 in the 80s comics..Faora even offered him sex to spare her.

  • @belzaboul
    @belzaboul 3 роки тому +5

    I think DC went with him because of the success with dark knight gritty and violent depiction of batman.

  • @SeanR794
    @SeanR794 3 роки тому +7

    Oh wow was not expecting that Louie Louie Christian parody to come back into my life

  • @TALIZ0RAH
    @TALIZ0RAH 3 роки тому +4

    Love how when jimmy got shot it cut immediately to an add

  • @propheci
    @propheci 3 роки тому +5

    I was legit confused here, by the thumbnail. I knew I watched this before...ol' UA-cam censors and Zack Snyder fanboys probably flagged the original video into oblivion.

  • @M.J44
    @M.J44 3 роки тому +22

    Oh GOD is that stuff about Sgt. Murderboy actually true? Is he dead? (I'm terrible at reading sarcasm sometimes, please forgive me.)

  • @Courier_333
    @Courier_333 3 роки тому +3

    I hate Zack Snyders interpretation of DC characters..... But God damn the man of steel hanz zimmer theme is FANTASTIC

  • @boitumelomachele4930
    @boitumelomachele4930 3 роки тому +7

    “Look at this closely, see when the upper floors collapse we need the fireball to be bigger.”
    Can’t believe you made me laugh at the tragedy that shall not be named😂😂😂

  • @bluefiremarkii
    @bluefiremarkii 3 роки тому +2

    Another reason Lex plan is stupid
    He doesn't like powerful people like his daddy or superman, then revives another kryptonian that WAS evil, into a MONSTER. What happened if superman died and the monster didn't huh!? YA JUST DOOMED EVERYONE. But no, somehow he knows they're going to kill each other because plot.

  • @toatakanuva4846
    @toatakanuva4846 3 роки тому +16

    Combination of Batman v Superman being an absolute trainwreck & Josstice League somehow being even worse

  • @EatWave
    @EatWave 3 роки тому +9

    21:10 The idea that being smarter than someone else means that one can deduce everything about their past intuitively falls apart when one considers that even the most brilliant human can not accurately deduce every hunting experience that a predatory animal has ever experienced or known what freak storms that they have survived exposure to sans further clear evidence of such despite being much more intelligent than they are.
    It is almost as much of a worn-out cliche as The Chess Master character type who can predict peoples' every movement as if human minds and societies operate according to a incredibly simple, rigid set of rules which can not ever be violated in secret or be subject to anomalous activity.

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 3 роки тому +3

      That’s the thing with Lex in the comics he is smart enough to deduce a lot of stuff but he has certain restrictions

  • @stoweby
    @stoweby 3 роки тому +14

    The irony of you being an edge lord in your video while calling Snyder an edge lord is not lost on me. Still, good breakdown, as always.

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому +4

      His breakdown was crap...So.much wrong I don't know where to begin...

    • @Ian-hj4yt
      @Ian-hj4yt 2 роки тому

      Cringe

  • @GrantMerle
    @GrantMerle 3 роки тому

    hey vito! looking forward to the day you bring back the vito show! stay happy my friend

  • @squiremuldoon5462
    @squiremuldoon5462 3 роки тому +3

    “Save Francine !” Lol great work man

  • @FOCS27
    @FOCS27 2 роки тому +3

    One thing I want to point out on the topic of Lex Luthor somehow magically knowing Superman's identity in BVS, is that it's more of a fault on the Man of Steel film. In Man of Steel, Lois was able to easily track down Superman, his mother and his mother's farm in Smallville with the resources she had, making it seem pretty easy for anyone to discover his identity if they really wanted to know, especially if they have the resources available.

  • @markparkinson6947
    @markparkinson6947 3 роки тому +29

    I was wondering where I heard a Transgendered Werewolves joke before, and then you showed me that joke! And now, like Batman knowing Superman’s mother’s name, it hit me! It came from this channel! Thank you for reminding me of the joke. Not knowing where it came from was killing me! And I also did not realise that I had not subscribed to you, because I was too busy focusing on how great your videos are, so I did exactly that!

    • @vito
      @vito  3 роки тому +11

      I also talk about transgender werewolves in my Last Jedi review!

    • @markparkinson6947
      @markparkinson6947 3 роки тому +6

      @@vito Yeah! That’s probably where I saw it. Great video, by the way. Very concise and to the point are some of the reasons I enjoyed it.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 роки тому +4

      @@vito gotta watch it again!
      XD

  • @chriscross8547
    @chriscross8547 3 роки тому +4

    Release the Vito Cut!

  • @migueloros891
    @migueloros891 3 роки тому +2

    Oh shit i kinda just clicked the video without noticing this was a video by Vito. This was such a in depth video, great job!

  • @heraldyaxelevi8132
    @heraldyaxelevi8132 3 роки тому +5

    I'll just stick with the old Justice League cartoon, watching this video gave me despair to DC movies.

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 3 роки тому

      Watch the animated movies

    • @Mosa685
      @Mosa685 3 роки тому

      Amen

    • @anastasiastellar2658
      @anastasiastellar2658 3 роки тому +1

      If DCEU is sooo desperate on making dark superhero movie
      Learn from DC animation movie, they're dark, but not edgy-wannabe.

  • @GeekOwtLowd
    @GeekOwtLowd 3 роки тому +18

    Zach Snyder is an amazing Music Video director. And that is all.

    • @jr5034
      @jr5034 3 роки тому +9

      what aout the action sequences, I mean they were really good

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 2 роки тому +2

      Not according to Nolan and Cameron who thinks he's great..Snyder is great .

    • @GeekOwtLowd
      @GeekOwtLowd 2 роки тому +4

      @@dignerds Professional courtesy.
      Nothing more.

    • @GeekOwtLowd
      @GeekOwtLowd 2 роки тому +1

      @@jr5034 in man of steel and bvs? They were disaster porn VFX headaches. The only cool one was the batman wearhouse fight that was basically a rip-off of Arkham video games.

  • @TheBokkelul
    @TheBokkelul 3 роки тому +2

    Isn't Superman from farmer parents? He should have said "save my mama" while crying about being unable to save her or something like that. That should make Batman go "oh shit this guy is also just "human" "

    • @NewLenses
      @NewLenses 2 роки тому +2

      Or maybe create some actual good conflict for the fight to happen and give a good reason for them to stop fighting, basically change the whole movie.

  • @michaelbiscay9836
    @michaelbiscay9836 3 роки тому +2

    Well, Warner Bros and Snyder may have killed the franchise, but now Patty Jenkins has officially buried it.

  • @land1877
    @land1877 3 роки тому +3

    I liked this video for the ending... thank you for being compassionate 😊

  • @Janograd
    @Janograd 3 роки тому +5

    19:38 LOL! I LITERALLY CAN STOP REPLAYING THAT BIT!

    • @vito
      @vito  3 роки тому +2

      Lol

  • @A.M.Cinematics
    @A.M.Cinematics 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome vid!

  • @moonshine588
    @moonshine588 3 роки тому +2

    The whole idea behind the Snider cut is stupid. He gave us bad movies. It's like wanting a JJ version of episode 8.

    • @moonshine588
      @moonshine588 3 роки тому +1

      @Failingpepper 11 but we got his full vision in a bunch of movies. He isn't very good. He made the DCU grey and boring. He gave us "Save Martha". The man creates garbage.

  • @acehardware2823
    @acehardware2823 3 роки тому +8

    12:32 Wait, how does Lois know what Superman said?

    • @homerhat420
      @homerhat420 3 роки тому +3

      That would mean Lois made an assumption that means she's telepathic too!

    • @Inframan-6767
      @Inframan-6767 Рік тому

      Good Question.

  • @ericm5315
    @ericm5315 3 роки тому +17

    Yes Snyder is an edgelord and is overly gratuitous with his dark visions but that quote is being taken out of context, the context was that if Snyder was do make Nolan's Batman movies and Watchmen-ize it, that's the level of dark we'd get. Not that if he made the movies we'd get the Batman prison sex scene. That's a big distinction to make lol.
    Ugh Whedon was awful. I could write an essay on how bad his changes were.
    Agreed though, it was WB executives who wrecked it.

  • @kanyepepper9977
    @kanyepepper9977 2 роки тому +1

    So glad UA-cam was able to finally release their cut of *Who Killed the DC Extended Universe?”*

  • @nicholashodges201
    @nicholashodges201 3 роки тому +6

    If Superman is an allegory for anything, it would be the Eastern European/ Jewish immigrant experience of the early 20th century.
    Schuster & Siegel also pulled from nearly every "holy ubërmensche" they could find from Sampson to the Peach Boy. Christ, not so much.

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 3 роки тому +1

      @Greg Elchert they weren't looking for "bible" character, but a "he-man" type. There's so many, and they couldn't decide which one to use. So they used ALL of them. This type of character is a "divine (or holy) ubermensch", meaning they've god like power.
      The two main traits they wanted were strength & an "outsider" background. They both talk about it a lot in various places. The facts that they both were immigrants and that one of them lost his father to a still unsolved murder are the seed & roots of Superman.

  • @nosfonader8792
    @nosfonader8792 3 роки тому +4

    No truer words have been said. You’d think Warner would use the Justice League Unlimited show as a template for the live action version. It was a perfect adaptation from the comics while being completely its own thing! Snyder was the worst person to helm this universe. Why didn’t they get Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings) or Chris Columbus (Harry Potter) to do this?! You think that would be a no brainer.

    • @Mosa685
      @Mosa685 3 роки тому +1

      I loved the JLU

    • @nosfonader8792
      @nosfonader8792 3 роки тому +1

      @@Mosa685 You’d think Warner would use that to help make their live action version. But instead they went gaga over Snyder’s grim dark Edgelord angle and killed it.

    • @nosfonader8792
      @nosfonader8792 3 роки тому +1

      @@Mosa685 I just wanted to add something: If Eisenberg Lex acted more like Social Network and Now You See Me instead of hyperactive fanboy. I still think Luthor should have made Bizzaro using Zod’s body instead of Doomsday.
      Like Nuclear Man from Superman 4, messing with Kryptonian tech and bodies proves why Luthor is such a threat to Superman.

    • @Mosa685
      @Mosa685 3 роки тому +1

      @@nosfonader8792 that is a great idea....Bizzaro.

    • @alenvg8448
      @alenvg8448 3 роки тому +2

      Because after watchmen came out Christopher Nolan recomended zack snyder for man of steel. Or maybe you know filmaking more than Nolan

  • @markparkinson6947
    @markparkinson6947 3 роки тому +7

    Damn! You had some great wrestling days, huh?

  • @solodumdum905
    @solodumdum905 3 роки тому

    Wtffff i honestly was terrified when i saw the views number. Bruh such a good video oh my god...keep up the good work man hope you blow up soon.
    Lol now i feel obliged to share it to my friends who probably won't care to even open the link cuz they don't know "what's a DC?"

  • @wiiagent
    @wiiagent 3 роки тому

    GREAT VIDEO MAN!

  • @adude7667
    @adude7667 3 роки тому +3

    YESSSSSSSS, THANKS SO MUCH VITO

  • @Provpsa121
    @Provpsa121 3 роки тому +3

    I see a Vito video about Star Wars or Superheroes, and I click, it's that Simple😌

  • @propheci
    @propheci Рік тому +1

    I like both this video and it's uncensored version. But in the wake of new info, you REALLY need to follow this up with a sequel.

  • @keithcreatesmedia6503
    @keithcreatesmedia6503 3 роки тому

    Sgt. Murderboy & "Gun-Chuks" is HILARIOUS.

  • @non452
    @non452 3 роки тому +6

    Am I the only one that actually liked man of steel

  • @nicholashodges201
    @nicholashodges201 3 роки тому +2

    Holy crap, Xmas day 2020 is the first time in my life I've ever heard someone outside of my family use the term "dirt farmer". For the last 40 years I just thought was a turn of phrase just with them...

    • @vito
      @vito  3 роки тому +2

      That term is in the dictionary

  • @hiiruss7423
    @hiiruss7423 3 роки тому +1

    one of the most underrated youtuber

  • @dar4431
    @dar4431 3 роки тому +3

    Warner Bros needs to stop hiring writers, producers, and directors who know absolutely nothing about the characters they are trying to direct, produce or write about. They have to hire those geeks and nerds that still live in moms basement and have spent their entire life following these superheroes. Like me!

    • @yurichtube1162
      @yurichtube1162 2 роки тому

      Same with star wars. Force is not female at all.

  • @borfislinepersonalitydisorder
    @borfislinepersonalitydisorder 3 роки тому +18

    it should have been “Save Martha. Martha Kent. My mother. Save my mother. Don’t let her die.” in case you still want the martha thing

  • @greyfox4577
    @greyfox4577 2 роки тому +1

    They did, and by them I mean DC with so many "Reboots" the modern day excuse for movie makers to admit they lack original and good ideas, when i was a kid reboots did not exist it was all about one line of stories one universe, now you have tons of universes, one the main character dies the other he lives, one universe batman per se was born in china the other in France, in one the main characters arch nemesis is his father in the other his father is his best friend.
    Being extreme here but you get the point.
    In my opinion what this causes is for people to have no sense of loyalty to any character or no point in believing a characters death is the end as he could be brought back the very next movie, also no point in getting used to any of the characters backstory as it could be completely changed in the next one.
    Not to mention the fact that there are so many superhero movies that what was once a rare treat is now an abundance of low quality cash cows.

  • @arkhamsmastermind370
    @arkhamsmastermind370 3 роки тому

    Hope this reupload either makes more views than the last or at least gets a sequel could this is quite interesting

  • @donaldkender4235
    @donaldkender4235 3 роки тому +3

    Wait a sec, are you really telling me the church classic "Pharaoh Pharaoh" isn't an original song? Is my childhood a lie?