Without a doubt, Nada, while making things easy to understand and apply to an individual's use case, you give the some of the most comprehensive evaluations of these drives on the 'net. Please continue the excellent presentations.
I bought the 4tb version to house all my Steam games. It only arrived today and I haven't had a chance to paste all my games over yet. I'm hoping for faster load times. Great video btw.
Your channel got recommended at the right time for me. I saw this gen 4 4tb model for basically the same price as the gen 3 version, and have been considering it as my big game library, it will only be going in a gen 3 slot, but considering its only around £10/20 more for me, i might as well go gen 4, in case i get a mobo with more gen 4 slots. Considering it is half the price of other gen 4 drives at the 4tb capacity, its good to know that it still performs well enough that it will be perfect as a game drive.
I just bought the p3 plus 1TB for £42 and the samsung 980 pro that my mate bought the month before was more than double the price. For the price this is an excellent piece of kit and well worth the money, also the speeds for the p3 and p5 tend to above the stated speeds so you know your getting your moneys worth.
I bought the P3 Plus 4tb. I am very happy with it. I was going to buy the P5 Plus but it is not availabe in 4tb. I have a mini pc so capacity was important.
Thank you! I bought a PC second hand that had 2 spare SSDs, this drive and the WD SN750 SE. I didn't know which one would be the better choice to throw in my PS5 so thank you for helping me decide! (Although it looks like I should be on the hunt for a better SSD in the future! Not to mention a heatsink.)
wait, you are testing all of these on a PCIe Gen 5 system? I would love to see the exact same drives all tested on a Gen 3 system. To really determine where higher gen drives make sense for a lower gen system. I imagine mostly the not so important sequential speeds are cut down by lower gen systems, but better performance, IOPS, etc will still shine through.
A stupid move IMHO. It's not like a user cant fire up CrystalDiskInfo etc or google markings on the NAND chips and controller/ram to figure out the exact specifications. And if Crucial changes them later they will be called out like ADATA was. I just find it hilarious that manufacturers think they can hide these kind of things in the internet age where one user can figure this out and share it with other would be buyers.
As these are going in a little NAS with 4 slots (x1 lanes each), a pair of these at 4 TB each will be more than adequate for only $209 each as a semi-fast mirrored pair...
My brand new P3 Plus failed within 3 months of installation. And I don't even game on my desktop. Extremely disappointed! Now we know why Crucial sells P3 Plus at a low price!
Just got ANOTHER 4tb p3 plus, for £169.99 A great drive. I have a 2TB Samsung 990 pro as my C: drive, but for storing videos and games, I prefer them on the p3 pluses.
I was surprised by the price difference when she showed between P3 Plus and P5 Plus, I checked on Amazon India and there was a $40 difference which is quite a lot. But then when I checked the price difference for 2TB, it was only $4.23. Its interesting why they would keep such a price difference between two models, what makes sense is that they want their P5 Plus market to be larger, obviously for 2TB I suppose.
4tb version is $300 for black Friday 2022. I think that's a great deal, I can overlook its shortcomings. I plan to use it for games and storing data, so I don't need blistering speed or high end endurance.
Hey thanks for your work very helpful, your SSD reviews are best. In video you mentioned that later you are going to buy a retail version of this SSD and retest it, maybe you already have? Wondering if the real tested speeds are still way better than advertised. Here in Estonia now one eshop offers this crazy deal 70 eur for P3 plus 4TB !!! Thats unprecedented, allready ordered couple for myself, still wonder if this will corespond to 2TB stats that your tests showed.
I'm currently using the WD SN550 500GB its terrible compared to this, I'm about place order on the 1TB version, ill follow up this comment once I've received it and tested it 👍
@@x_XBurner361 I opted to get a second one when I saw this price myself Lot's of hardware is overpriced right now, but ssd's just keep getting cheaper and cheaper. A few years ago I considered it a steal when I could get 2tb 970 evo for $400.
Hi Nada, would you like to take a look at the rx 6700 non xt 10gb from either Sapphire or Powercolor? So far there has been only few reviews from a Portuguese tech youtuber. However, would like to see your review of the new card from AMD.
I don't think I'll be seeing a Sapphire or Powercolor card soon. They're not that popular here. RX 6700 XT is pretty low power though, any decent heatsink _should _ do well assuming the brand didn't do anything too stupid.
Update for US consumers: Right now on "budget" for say a 2TB you can go with the P3 Plus for $109, an SN770 for $124 or a 980pro for $158. The SN770 did not sustain PS5 spec read speeds in this videos' test, so for games like Ratchet and Clank, probably not the best. So if you want to Run Ratchet & Clank on PC with PS5 quality you can save 54$ or spend the 54 and get the DRAM cache the 980 offers. So as a secondary drive to store games the choice you face is should I pay 54 more USD for DRAM cache? There you go. EDIT: Techtesters can you make a comparison between the 980 Pro and the P3 Plus in the Ratchet and Clank in the infamous rift sequence loading?
Grabbed a P3 Plus for my blade 14 2021 as it’s single sided and performs at the max the blade can do. Crazy thing is it was only £10 more than the 4TB P3 I grabbed but that has gone in Mac Pro 2013 so speeds aren’t really important.
I'm looking to buy the P3 4TB - it costs around 200GBP, where I live, and P3 Plus 4TB costs 240GBP. I've got a Legion 7 2021(PCI gen 3), and only one PCIe slot can accept a double sided SSD. That 4TB P3 is double sided or single sided(as the P3 Plus you bought)?
@@trevorphillips4595 both are single sided which is great! I’ve swapped my P3 and P3+ in my blade 14. I get slightly faster speeds. On offer in U.K. there was only £10 difference a few weeks ago. I’m not sure I’d pay the difference at £40 for gen3 (guess it’s AMD like the blade) but you have the choice of both.
@@richarddcrossley Thanks for the reply! Single sided - that is great indeed - a lot easier to cool it, with a built in laptop heat sink too(which is really only very thin plate). Yes, it's a Ryzen 5800H system - PCIe gen 3. I have two 2TB Samsung 970 pro ssds for about a year, but I'm running out of space ;-) I guess there is no point of going with P3 Plus, as it will work in gen 3 mode anyway.
@@trevorphillips4595 agreed. I was fine with the P3 and it’s so close in performance. Only reason I swapped them was because I was having issues getting the MP 2013 to see the drive and had confirmation on redit P3 normal works. Turns out it was the NVMe adapter I was using which weirdly couldn’t handle the 4TB drives but was fine with 2TB! Save that £40 towards another P3 in the future! I’ve got a similar setup in RAID in my X17R1 with 2TB WD blue drives. I think like you long term I’ll swap out for 2 P3 drives for 8TB. Thermals seem decent too on the P3.
Ik zit heel erg te twijfelen tussen de Crucial P3 4TB en de Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (Ik heb alleen nog een gen 3 pcie slot over). Ik heb twijfels door het grote verschil in TBW, maar wil de opslag vooral gebruiken voor grote games
There's very little reason to go with these cheaper drives because they're only slightly cheaper than much better drives, like 980 Pro or FireCuda 530.... Better just spend bit extra and get these newer ones, even if you have PCIE 3.0 system cause you will eventually upgrade and then you'll be happy you invested slightly more before as performance will scale up with your upgrade.
Depends on the region really. Sometimes a budget drive can save you $20/TB or so. For a simple game library or something similar that's not a bad saving.
True , it depends on the region... Here in India 980 Pro costs double to the P5 Plus 500gb 980 pro = 1 TB P5 plus ~ 750gb SN850.... Crucial P5 Plus is a no brainer choice but I Agree n Strongly Support your statement @Teemu Vesala , We Should Always Spend More for Future proofing , just make sure it reasonable
@@r_turner Here on German Amazon 980 Pro was just on sale for 208 euros for 2TB version. Things don't get much cheaper from that... P5 Plus is regularly 220 euros for 2TB, on sale was 180 euros for 2TB. WD Blue SN570 2TB is 180 euros just on sale. So you see no point buying these budget drives here. P5 Plus is not really a budget drive either, its high end gen 4 NVME just like 980 Pro is. I just prefer Samsung over Crucial in general, although Crucial is good brand too (Micron owned).
What are the differences between cheaper and more expensive NVMe? I've just ordered a 4TB P3 Pro and was thinking of possibly using it as the main drive. The other 4TB options were much more expensive. What issues I could face?
@@frightenwanderer7444 Well in regular use you wouldn't notice the difference much or at all I guess. Cause Crucial P3 is DRAMless, it means it will have higher latency than drives with built-in DRAM cache. I would personally still get a drive with built-in DRAM cache as your main drive where you can install your OS and apps. P3 is a great secondary SSD drive for storing your games on for instance.
The various reviews really split hairs on the leading edge. For my purposes, not being a gamer, whether it's 20 or 20.1 times faster than a hard drive or 9 or 9.1 times faster than a sata ssd is a difference you will never notice. Even as a gamer, the difference would likely be pretty subdued. I installed one of these in a HP mini desktop with MintLinux and.. I wait for nothing.
Just discovered this channel. I was thinking how good it is and wondering how I could've missed it, but then I watch this review and there's no mention of the absolutely abysmal native performance once the cache is full (< 100MB/s), which is _the_ major drawback with this model (same as the even cheaper P3). Bummer :/ The SN570's performance doesn't tank even remotely as much with direct writes (though it does tank a LOT faster), yet there was a word about it in its review. I haven't watched a lot from this channel yet, and this video isn't too recent either so maybe things have changed since then, but I think SSD reviews would be even better if they included systematic testing of cache size (static or dynamic), cache recovery time and direct write performance. I mean, the ones I've watched seemed pretty thorough but this one's lacking crucial information (no pun intended) so idk...
It's a worthy consideration, but most PC users won't be writing 400+GB at a time. So outside of video editing etc where there's a lot of writes (and honestly at that point the low endurance is probably also a killing drawback) you're only likely to see issues there if you're transferring the contents over from another drive. That kind of stuff should be mentioned though, since it's pertinent to the same users that the TBW is.
@@GrandHighGamer Yes, most users probably won't have to deal with the degraded performance, but the cache is only 1/4 of the free space so it's going to shrink as the drive fills up, and 200GB+ transfers are not that uncommon in the age of Blu-rays I think. Definitely worth mentioning anyway, as you said at least for the fraction of users that do routinely transfer very large amounts of data.
@@silverplayer7502 The performance drop only occurs during sustained sequential writes involving very large amounts of data, so it won't impact gaming performance. If you already have many large games to move to the drive, the transfer may become really slow after the first ~400GB. Once you've moved the data to the drive, you shouldn't face that issue again, or fairly rarely.
How would it be if used on External USB 3.x (5gbs) NVMe enclosure under VeraCrypt encription without hardware assistance for encryption? For storing daily backups of internal data... mostly writes, near zero reads.
I put this in a Orico external enclosure and can't get more than 40mbps? The bios has AHCI enabled and in Windows 7 I get the same speed as on a new laptop also? I'm very stumped. I'm using the cable the Orico came with also. Spent hours and no results. I even found a driver update for the Realtek and still same speed. 😕
If you allow me to give you a personal recommendation. Having a gamer laptop like that, it would be better to buy an intermediate-level storage solution like any of those mentioned in the benchmarks, rather than buying a cheap-a** SSD like Greens and Ecos. Those are for newcomers and unadvised people with no tech-knowledge whatsoever. You'll be better buying proven SSDs in this channel (even when DRAM-less too), instead of cheaping-out with really low budget models. Just don't buy something like m.2 nvme 990 pro from Samsung, or SATA 870 EVOs. They go bad after weeks or months of use, and there are many Web articles on the subject. Have a nice day.
@@bhushan2k - I must've misread the timestamp. Then thought you were noob, sorry for the assumption. I'm a bit sleepy now. Yeah, I hope you can find a nvme like with those specs to game hard on that laptop. I was thinking of a Sabrent Rocket or the Crucial P5 from the video if available in your area. Cheers, funny guy. :D
@@EarthboundApocalypse yup both are good. Another two in consideration are KC3000 and Corsair MP600 Pro NH. I just loved mp600 series but reviews are very less for this particular NH model since it was launched just in last dec. NH is actually designed for laptop with thin heat spreader (not sink) when space is the main constraint. And It doesn't throttle down much when cache is full while transferring very large data.
With Intel practically out of the game, Crucial is the only alternative to Samsung in terms of ratio price/perfs. As far as I'm concerned, they're the best for home Server or NAS if you want a system completely noiseless.
Hi Nada! I have one of these p3plus drives as a cache drive in my very specific purpose pc its very slow reading only getting around 200mb/s 4.30-5min with big encrypted files of 56gb which are loaded up into ram... I put a samsung 860 sata ssd in and its twice as quick loading in around 2min 480mb/s for the same 56gb encrypted cache file. What would you suggest i swap to? the samsung 990pro w/o heatsink $179 (will put it into the top spot with heatsink or Seagate 530 $159 with heatsink?? or: ?? My local store is PLE needs to be 1tb in size and capable of a lot better load times. Its only short but intensive for a few minutes and data is only written to once in and then read from that location multiple times a week...
this "availability" to change parts as it suits them is low key redflag. It means that if they get filed a law suit for deceiving the consumers, they can't be liable as they did not put the exact specs. If they will swap parts. It reminds me of the Kingston SSD debacle years back where they sent their SSD to be reviewed by youtubers. But those review samples had different parts that made it run faster. Ofcourse those parts are more expensive. Then Kingston proceeded to sell the same SSD, same branding, same name to the mainstream consumers and they were slower than the same branded review sample.
is it good for a long term? to use with important data.. they are cheaper than wd black, samsung pro, but this speed is good enough for me. i only worry with durability
I'm building a brand new pc for the first time. I am thinking of getting this ssd for my primary drive(1 tb for $66 dollars us). Should I keep looking for another ssd?
I've been very disappointed lately by Crucial and its products. I absolutely do not recommend and advise against purchasing their products. Other than that, it's a great video nonetheless. Thanks Nada.
@@TechTesters I bought 2 crucial drives (2.5 inch) as they were best value and I thought reliable brand. 1 was dead on arrival and the second packed in after a couple months, which to be frank is worse. Not impressive. Bought through amazon so got refunded, and replaced with Samsung drives at slightly higher cost. Only a sample of 2 I'll admit, but I've never had an issue with my Samsung drives, only 3 or 4 over 7 year period.
Gotta love when people leave vague advisories and explain nothing. What happened? Why were you disappointed? This comment does not help us at all and wasn't worth posting without an explanation. On the other hand, this review did help a ton, so I do appreciate @TechTesters on that!
Nothing happened. They stopped producing DDR4 and are now only producing DDR5. That’s why you have a hard time finding Ballistix DDR4. They could bring it back. Micron (Crucial) makes a lot of the DDR4 modules other brands resell/rebrand like Asus PSU are actually Seasonic ones so your memory argument is invalid. No issues with my Crucial 2TB SSD yet 4yrs later.
@@HCGonzalezJr87 he didn't make an argument as much as a comment really.. and crucial discontinued the ballistix branding a while back, they didnt say why, but it isnt coming back.
@@JTCPingas crucial allegedly pulled a fast one with the P2 making it perform slower than some HDDs while commanding the same price and not informing the public. The P2 was as good as the WD blue in terms of price to performance during launch
P3 Plus doesn't really get hot enough that you have to take it off, might as well leave it on in case your shop ever wants to deny warranty for some dumb reason.
De reden dat ze geen duidelijke specificaties geven is omdat 1 van de grote reviewers heeft aangegeven dat tijdens de review fase, de youtubers de betere chip kregen en door de maanden/jaren heen kregen de ssd’s andere controllers waardoor de prestaties vaak een tier lager uitkwamen en de prijs-prestatie niet meer gelden. Linus had dit toen der tijd al aan het licht gebracht ua-cam.com/video/K07sEM6y4Uc/v-deo.html
Would it be possible to include the 970Pro as well, since it's the only M.2 NVMe SSD with 2-bit MLC-Nand that is still available? Various TLC SSDs already died on me, while my MLC SSDs are still working perfectly, I don't get why no new MLC models are released.....
I do have a 970 pro and i did retest it recently. Ill see if i can add it to the graph of an upcoming SSD review. Will be a bit though, CPU/GPU season ;)
Because MLC is more expensive to manufacture . To make your TLC SSD (gen4*) live longer, I suggest you to buy a heatsink ( The best you can have ), whatever the hardware you have, lower temp always mean better durability ( and performance ) .
Amazon have the 4tb p3 and p3 plus on at 350 and 355 euro respectively. As someone looking for this as an External drive with option to use internally as a storage drive on a laptop with 2 m.2 slots at a later date, is this a good option??
The algorithm hasn't steered me towards your vids for a very long time. I'm wondering why that is. It's a mystery to everyone except the freaks at UA-cam.
Without a doubt, Nada, while making things easy to understand and apply to an individual's use case, you give the some of the most comprehensive evaluations of these drives on the 'net.
Please continue the excellent presentations.
Great to see more content from you! You're my goto for SSD reviews.
I bought the 4tb version to house all my Steam games. It only arrived today and I haven't had a chance to paste all my games over yet. I'm hoping for faster load times. Great video btw.
Yeah!! the real OG of SSD testing is in the house.🔥🥵
This is very detail3d info and FOR ONCE good and in debt comparisons for when I want to buy. I'm gonna subscribe, thank you
Your channel got recommended at the right time for me. I saw this gen 4 4tb model for basically the same price as the gen 3 version, and have been considering it as my big game library, it will only be going in a gen 3 slot, but considering its only around £10/20 more for me, i might as well go gen 4, in case i get a mobo with more gen 4 slots. Considering it is half the price of other gen 4 drives at the 4tb capacity, its good to know that it still performs well enough that it will be perfect as a game drive.
I just bought the p3 plus 1TB for £42 and the samsung 980 pro that my mate bought the month before was more than double the price. For the price this is an excellent piece of kit and well worth the money, also the speeds for the p3 and p5 tend to above the stated speeds so you know your getting your moneys worth.
Is it worth getting as a secondary drive
I bought the P3 Plus 4tb. I am very happy with it. I was going to buy the P5 Plus but it is not availabe in 4tb. I have a mini pc so capacity was important.
THANK YOU. Now I know how little I know about MVME drives! ~ Back to the drawing board.
You do an amazing job! Very informative and concise. Thank you!
Thank you! I bought a PC second hand that had 2 spare SSDs, this drive and the WD SN750 SE. I didn't know which one would be the better choice to throw in my PS5 so thank you for helping me decide! (Although it looks like I should be on the hunt for a better SSD in the future! Not to mention a heatsink.)
Good to see you back. Was worried something happened. Would love to see your opinion on the new SN850x. I got the 2TB version and it's smoking fast.
All good. Just took a little holiday :)
As for the SN850x. Im waiting for one atm!
This video just saved me! I order the P3 instead of the Plus variant. First time buying a Crucial SSD. Didn't realize they had a difference.
are you happy with it? did you use it in a PS5?
Great video! Thanks for breaking these products down!
I got this drive 3 weeks ago. Use it to store pc games. Pretty happy with it for $122 US
How many TB? I just picked up a 2TB model for $125 USD.
@@sethborne microcenter price is also $125 for gen 4.
@@jhendra83 it is the same price just about everywhere.
Best Buy and Amazon both have the same price. Micrometer won't even ship it to you. Big L
Just got the 4TB version at $197. Will be using it for games that takes a long time to load.
New to the channel. Thanks for the video content. Awesome b-roll with the action figure dude lol
Oh, the b-roll earned a subscription lol
Did you buy a retail copy and tested it? A good idea for a great video!
Two videos in one week 🤩
wait, you are testing all of these on a PCIe Gen 5 system? I would love to see the exact same drives all tested on a Gen 3 system. To really determine where higher gen drives make sense for a lower gen system. I imagine mostly the not so important sequential speeds are cut down by lower gen systems, but better performance, IOPS, etc will still shine through.
Some very Sneaky ways to swap chips unknowingly, very consumer unfriendly practice.
A stupid move IMHO. It's not like a user cant fire up CrystalDiskInfo etc or google markings on the NAND chips and controller/ram to figure out the exact specifications.
And if Crucial changes them later they will be called out like ADATA was. I just find it hilarious that manufacturers think they can hide these kind of things in the internet age where one user can figure this out and share it with other would be buyers.
Let’s see first if they actually do it. I’ll probably buy one in a few months or so.
@@TechTesters Any updates?
As these are going in a little NAS with 4 slots (x1 lanes each), a pair of these at 4 TB each will be more than adequate for only $209 each as a semi-fast mirrored pair...
My brand new P3 Plus failed within 3 months of installation. And I don't even game on my desktop. Extremely disappointed! Now we know why Crucial sells P3 Plus at a low price!
Just got ANOTHER 4tb p3 plus, for £169.99
A great drive. I have a 2TB Samsung 990 pro as my C: drive, but for storing videos and games, I prefer them on the p3 pluses.
I was surprised by the price difference when she showed between P3 Plus and P5 Plus, I checked on Amazon India and there was a $40 difference which is quite a lot. But then when I checked the price difference for 2TB, it was only $4.23. Its interesting why they would keep such a price difference between two models, what makes sense is that they want their P5 Plus market to be larger, obviously for 2TB I suppose.
4tb version is $300 for black Friday 2022. I think that's a great deal, I can overlook its shortcomings. I plan to use it for games and storing data, so I don't need blistering speed or high end endurance.
I picked up some for 279.
a year later, found a pair of 4 TB samples for $209 each..; SOLD!
Hey thanks for your work very helpful, your SSD reviews are best. In video you mentioned that later you are going to buy a retail version of this SSD and retest it, maybe you already have? Wondering if the real tested speeds are still way better than advertised. Here in Estonia now one eshop offers this crazy deal 70 eur for P3 plus 4TB !!! Thats unprecedented, allready ordered couple for myself, still wonder if this will corespond to 2TB stats that your tests showed.
The 4TB P3 Plus at 200€ is very tempting 😆
I'm currently using the WD SN550 500GB its terrible compared to this, I'm about place order on the 1TB version, ill follow up this comment once I've received it and tested it 👍
Just bought the 4 tb version for $280 Feeling very good about that.
I got it for $290 from best buy .
$224 on amazon for me today 🎉
@@x_XBurner361 I opted to get a second one when I saw this price myself Lot's of hardware is overpriced right now, but ssd's just keep getting cheaper and cheaper. A few years ago I considered it a steal when I could get 2tb 970 evo for $400.
@@yourstrulyjohnnydollar8775 it’s $190 now lol
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Hi Nada, would you like to take a look at the rx 6700 non xt 10gb from either Sapphire or Powercolor? So far there has been only few reviews from a Portuguese tech youtuber. However, would like to see your review of the new card from AMD.
I don't think I'll be seeing a Sapphire or Powercolor card soon. They're not that popular here. RX 6700 XT is pretty low power though, any decent heatsink _should _ do well assuming the brand didn't do anything too stupid.
5 second in and I already absolutely love the crucial p3 plus
Update for US consumers:
Right now on "budget" for say a 2TB you can go with the P3 Plus for $109, an SN770 for $124 or a 980pro for $158.
The SN770 did not sustain PS5 spec read speeds in this videos' test, so for games like Ratchet and Clank, probably not the best.
So if you want to Run Ratchet & Clank on PC with PS5 quality you can save 54$ or spend the 54 and get the DRAM cache the 980 offers. So as a secondary drive to store games the choice you face is should I pay 54 more USD for DRAM cache? There you go.
EDIT: Techtesters can you make a comparison between the 980 Pro and the P3 Plus in the Ratchet and Clank in the infamous rift sequence loading?
Grabbed a P3 Plus for my blade 14 2021 as it’s single sided and performs at the max the blade can do. Crazy thing is it was only £10 more than the 4TB P3 I grabbed but that has gone in Mac Pro 2013 so speeds aren’t really important.
I'm looking to buy the P3 4TB - it costs around 200GBP, where I live, and P3 Plus 4TB costs 240GBP. I've got a Legion 7 2021(PCI gen 3), and only one PCIe slot can accept a double sided SSD. That 4TB P3 is double sided or single sided(as the P3 Plus you bought)?
@@trevorphillips4595 both are single sided which is great! I’ve swapped my P3 and P3+ in my blade 14. I get slightly faster speeds. On offer in U.K. there was only £10 difference a few weeks ago. I’m not sure I’d pay the difference at £40 for gen3 (guess it’s AMD like the blade) but you have the choice of both.
@@richarddcrossley Thanks for the reply! Single sided - that is great indeed - a lot easier to cool it, with a built in laptop heat sink too(which is really only very thin plate). Yes, it's a Ryzen 5800H system - PCIe gen 3. I have two 2TB Samsung 970 pro ssds for about a year, but I'm running out of space ;-) I guess there is no point of going with P3 Plus, as it will work in gen 3 mode anyway.
@@trevorphillips4595 agreed. I was fine with the P3 and it’s so close in performance. Only reason I swapped them was because I was having issues getting the MP 2013 to see the drive and had confirmation on redit P3 normal works. Turns out it was the NVMe adapter I was using which weirdly couldn’t handle the 4TB drives but was fine with 2TB! Save that £40 towards another P3 in the future! I’ve got a similar setup in RAID in my X17R1 with 2TB WD blue drives. I think like you long term I’ll swap out for 2 P3 drives for 8TB. Thermals seem decent too on the P3.
Ik zit heel erg te twijfelen tussen de Crucial P3 4TB en de Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (Ik heb alleen nog een gen 3 pcie slot over). Ik heb twijfels door het grote verschil in TBW, maar wil de opslag vooral gebruiken voor grote games
I just had a 4TB 870 EVO SATA SSD replaced under warranty and they sent me a brand new one. I could sell the NIB SSD and get a 4TB one of these.
Thank you.
Im a bit affraid of this nvme, because some reviews on amazon state that it destroyed their pc :O
Wat als ik een Samsung 980 PRO 2 TB Gen 4 in een Gen 3 slot gebruik ?
Presteert hij dan nog steeds erg goed of wat ?
Should work just fine, it just won't be as fast as in a proper Gen4 slot.
I was able to pick up the mp600 pro lpx 2TB for 180€, much better than p3 plus for 135€ for me.
There's very little reason to go with these cheaper drives because they're only slightly cheaper than much better drives, like 980 Pro or FireCuda 530.... Better just spend bit extra and get these newer ones, even if you have PCIE 3.0 system cause you will eventually upgrade and then you'll be happy you invested slightly more before as performance will scale up with your upgrade.
Depends on the region really. Sometimes a budget drive can save you $20/TB or so. For a simple game library or something similar that's not a bad saving.
True , it depends on the region... Here in India 980 Pro costs double to the P5 Plus
500gb 980 pro = 1 TB P5 plus ~ 750gb SN850.... Crucial P5 Plus is a no brainer choice but I Agree n Strongly Support your statement @Teemu Vesala , We Should Always Spend More for Future proofing , just make sure it reasonable
@@r_turner Here on German Amazon 980 Pro was just on sale for 208 euros for 2TB version. Things don't get much cheaper from that... P5 Plus is regularly 220 euros for 2TB, on sale was 180 euros for 2TB. WD Blue SN570 2TB is 180 euros just on sale. So you see no point buying these budget drives here. P5 Plus is not really a budget drive either, its high end gen 4 NVME just like 980 Pro is. I just prefer Samsung over Crucial in general, although Crucial is good brand too (Micron owned).
What are the differences between cheaper and more expensive NVMe? I've just ordered a 4TB P3 Pro and was thinking of possibly using it as the main drive. The other 4TB options were much more expensive. What issues I could face?
@@frightenwanderer7444 Well in regular use you wouldn't notice the difference much or at all I guess. Cause Crucial P3 is DRAMless, it means it will have higher latency than drives with built-in DRAM cache. I would personally still get a drive with built-in DRAM cache as your main drive where you can install your OS and apps. P3 is a great secondary SSD drive for storing your games on for instance.
The various reviews really split hairs on the leading edge. For my purposes, not being a gamer, whether it's 20 or 20.1 times faster than a hard drive or 9 or 9.1 times faster than a sata ssd is a difference you will never notice. Even as a gamer, the difference would likely be pretty subdued. I installed one of these in a HP mini desktop with MintLinux and.. I wait for nothing.
Is this drive realiable?
I dont mind the speed since its just for game storage and not apps
No dram. No me. Thanks for the review.
Just discovered this channel. I was thinking how good it is and wondering how I could've missed it, but then I watch this review and there's no mention of the absolutely abysmal native performance once the cache is full (< 100MB/s), which is _the_ major drawback with this model (same as the even cheaper P3). Bummer :/ The SN570's performance doesn't tank even remotely as much with direct writes (though it does tank a LOT faster), yet there was a word about it in its review. I haven't watched a lot from this channel yet, and this video isn't too recent either so maybe things have changed since then, but I think SSD reviews would be even better if they included systematic testing of cache size (static or dynamic), cache recovery time and direct write performance. I mean, the ones I've watched seemed pretty thorough but this one's lacking crucial information (no pun intended) so idk...
It's a worthy consideration, but most PC users won't be writing 400+GB at a time. So outside of video editing etc where there's a lot of writes (and honestly at that point the low endurance is probably also a killing drawback) you're only likely to see issues there if you're transferring the contents over from another drive. That kind of stuff should be mentioned though, since it's pertinent to the same users that the TBW is.
@@GrandHighGamer Yes, most users probably won't have to deal with the degraded performance, but the cache is only 1/4 of the free space so it's going to shrink as the drive fills up, and 200GB+ transfers are not that uncommon in the age of Blu-rays I think. Definitely worth mentioning anyway, as you said at least for the fraction of users that do routinely transfer very large amounts of data.
Hey so uhh does this matter for gaming? planning to buy a 2tb one to put all my games for current and future
@@silverplayer7502 The performance drop only occurs during sustained sequential writes involving very large amounts of data, so it won't impact gaming performance. If you already have many large games to move to the drive, the transfer may become really slow after the first ~400GB. Once you've moved the data to the drive, you shouldn't face that issue again, or fairly rarely.
Kingston's NV2 is worth a look.
Noted!
How would it be if used on External USB 3.x (5gbs) NVMe enclosure under VeraCrypt encription without hardware assistance for encryption?
For storing daily backups of internal data... mostly writes, near zero reads.
i'm not so sure, I can't find the full spec, like TBW, temps
Can you review the new Kingston Nv2? its the cheapest Gen4 nvme on the market
I will try to grab one!
@@TechTesters thanks 😁
I put this in a Orico external enclosure and can't get more than 40mbps? The bios has AHCI enabled and in Windows 7 I get the same speed as on a new laptop also? I'm very stumped. I'm using the cable the Orico came with also. Spent hours and no results. I even found a driver update for the Realtek and still same speed. 😕
Nice video :)
what, so sequential writes & reads is faster than crucial p5 plus?
I just tested this in Linux Mint with the Disk testing tool they have and i got 6900 read this is very fast the date i bought it was 12-5-22
just installed a 2TB p5 plus , it was 5 euro more than the same capacity p3 plus :)
The price gap is now $70 USD
Can you please review WD green 2tb NVME? I am looking for cheapest option for storage. I have only NVME connection inside Asus TUF f15 2022.
If you allow me to give you a personal recommendation. Having a gamer laptop like that, it would be better to buy an intermediate-level storage solution like any of those mentioned in the benchmarks, rather than buying a cheap-a** SSD like Greens and Ecos. Those are for newcomers and unadvised people with no tech-knowledge whatsoever. You'll be better buying proven SSDs in this channel (even when DRAM-less too), instead of cheaping-out with really low budget models.
Just don't buy something like m.2 nvme 990 pro from Samsung, or SATA 870 EVOs. They go bad after weeks or months of use, and there are many Web articles on the subject.
Have a nice day.
@@EarthboundApocalypse yeah man. I was noob 4 months back 😂 m looking for 2tb with TLC nand n dram cache with higher TBW now.
@@bhushan2k - I must've misread the timestamp. Then thought you were noob, sorry for the assumption. I'm a bit sleepy now. Yeah, I hope you can find a nvme like with those specs to game hard on that laptop. I was thinking of a Sabrent Rocket or the Crucial P5 from the video if available in your area. Cheers, funny guy. :D
@@EarthboundApocalypse yup both are good. Another two in consideration are KC3000 and Corsair MP600 Pro NH. I just loved mp600 series but reviews are very less for this particular NH model since it was launched just in last dec. NH is actually designed for laptop with thin heat spreader (not sink) when space is the main constraint. And It doesn't throttle down much when cache is full while transferring very large data.
Kingston NV2 is even cheaper. Could you review that too please?
I'll try!
They'll cheap out on parts to meet the spec but keep the same price.
How does it compare to the wd sn770? Both at 500gb.
970 evo plus or p3plus
Meh, are those your only options? I'd say a nice mid-range Gen4 / DRAM drive would be better usualy.
I can spend a lil bit extra
What about 980 pro
I am not a heavy user ,just for day to day task
With Intel practically out of the game, Crucial is the only alternative to Samsung in terms of ratio price/perfs. As far as I'm concerned, they're the best for home Server or NAS if you want a system completely noiseless.
How about the SN770
Hi Nada! I have one of these p3plus drives as a cache drive in my very specific purpose pc its very slow reading only getting around 200mb/s 4.30-5min with big encrypted files of 56gb which are loaded up into ram... I put a samsung 860 sata ssd in and its twice as quick loading in around 2min 480mb/s for the same 56gb encrypted cache file. What would you suggest i swap to? the samsung 990pro w/o heatsink $179 (will put it into the top spot with heatsink or Seagate 530 $159 with heatsink?? or: ?? My local store is PLE needs to be 1tb in size and capable of a lot better load times. Its only short but intensive for a few minutes and data is only written to once in and then read from that location multiple times a week...
990 Pro is a very safe choice imho
P3 plus 1tb price is 40 to 50 usd here in my region. Should i use this for casual gaming?
Sorry for my english 😅
Sure, why not :)
this "availability" to change parts as it suits them is low key redflag.
It means that if they get filed a law suit for deceiving the consumers, they can't be liable as they did not put the exact specs. If they will swap parts.
It reminds me of the Kingston SSD debacle years back where they sent their SSD to be reviewed by youtubers.
But those review samples had different parts that made it run faster. Ofcourse those parts are more expensive.
Then Kingston proceeded to sell the same SSD, same branding, same name to the mainstream consumers and they were slower than the same branded review sample.
i have a p5 plus as my main and wanted the p3 plus 4tb as my secondary its only $250 at the moment
300 out the door not quite 250
@@nblion5 in germany its currently going for 245€ (taxes included)
This or the MP34 4TB?
is it good for a long term? to use with important data.. they are cheaper than wd black, samsung pro, but this speed is good enough for me. i only worry with durability
Hard to say. Either way you need backups, no matter which drive you buy. Any of them can technically fail.
can i use in raid 5 need performence for very small files.
Ofcourse you can with the right hardware. I would invest in more top tier drives when files are of utmost importance.
I'm building a brand new pc for the first time. I am thinking of getting this ssd for my primary drive(1 tb for $66 dollars us). Should I keep looking for another ssd?
I think the same what you decided?
@Voltomess I got the samsung 990 pro 2tb gen 4. They are probably better options now, but that was best at the time.
I've been very disappointed lately by Crucial and its products. I absolutely do not recommend and advise against purchasing their products. Other than that, it's a great video nonetheless. Thanks Nada.
What happened specifically? Other than my old M4's that all died (also, they're ancient) I haven't really had issues with dozens of Crucial drives.
@@TechTesters I bought 2 crucial drives (2.5 inch) as they were best value and I thought reliable brand. 1 was dead on arrival and the second packed in after a couple months, which to be frank is worse. Not impressive.
Bought through amazon so got refunded, and replaced with Samsung drives at slightly higher cost. Only a sample of 2 I'll admit, but I've never had an issue with my Samsung drives, only 3 or 4 over 7 year period.
Gotta love when people leave vague advisories and explain nothing. What happened? Why were you disappointed? This comment does not help us at all and wasn't worth posting without an explanation.
On the other hand, this review did help a ton, so I do appreciate @TechTesters on that!
@@balsanoid2319 Yep, CRICKETS
Will you please review Team Group Cardea A440?
I will try to get one!
cheers
No dram, no go.
what about the 4 TB SSD .. is it Single sided or Double sided ?
Single-sided.
I don't trust Crucial for SSDs. Also, they abandoned the Ballistix RAM kits
I swore by Crucial SSDs back in the SATA 2.5" days. What happened?
Nothing happened. They stopped producing DDR4 and are now only producing DDR5. That’s why you have a hard time finding Ballistix DDR4. They could bring it back. Micron (Crucial) makes a lot of the DDR4 modules other brands resell/rebrand like Asus PSU are actually Seasonic ones so your memory argument is invalid. No issues with my Crucial 2TB SSD yet 4yrs later.
@@HCGonzalezJr87 he didn't make an argument as much as a comment really.. and crucial discontinued the ballistix branding a while back, they didnt say why, but it isnt coming back.
@@JTCPingas crucial allegedly pulled a fast one with the P2 making it perform slower than some HDDs while commanding the same price and not informing the public. The P2 was as good as the WD blue in terms of price to performance during launch
Does it support ps5 or no
The SP UD90 is cheaper.
Ill see id i can grab one here!
I just bought one together with a heatsink. But why is there a sticker on these SSD's, should I remove it?
P3 Plus doesn't really get hot enough that you have to take it off, might as well leave it on in case your shop ever wants to deny warranty for some dumb reason.
@@TechTesters Cheers for a quick reply, I think I'll keep the sticker on. :)
@@acertainghost286those sticker are actually heat spreader in most budget nvme's, so don't
@@TechTesters would you install a system on 1gb version or it's too risky?
@@Voltomess not really riskier than any other SSD. But you need backups either way.
De reden dat ze geen duidelijke specificaties geven is omdat 1 van de grote reviewers heeft aangegeven dat tijdens de review fase, de youtubers de betere chip kregen en door de maanden/jaren heen kregen de ssd’s andere controllers waardoor de prestaties vaak een tier lager uitkwamen en de prijs-prestatie niet meer gelden. Linus had dit toen der tijd al aan het licht gebracht ua-cam.com/video/K07sEM6y4Uc/v-deo.html
Would it be possible to include the 970Pro as well, since it's the only M.2 NVMe SSD with 2-bit MLC-Nand that is still available? Various TLC SSDs already died on me, while my MLC SSDs are still working perfectly, I don't get why no new MLC models are released.....
I do have a 970 pro and i did retest it recently. Ill see if i can add it to the graph of an upcoming SSD review. Will be a bit though, CPU/GPU season ;)
Because MLC is more expensive to manufacture . To make your TLC SSD (gen4*) live longer, I suggest you to buy a heatsink ( The best you can have ), whatever the hardware you have, lower temp always mean better durability ( and performance ) .
@@EmoHawkas That is not true for NAND.
@@noenken Which point ? The heat or the manufacture ?
@@EmoHawkas The heat part. NAND likes it toasty as far as I know. The controller is the one that needs to be kept in check, I think.
I just bought the 4tb one for games to run will it be faster than a 3tb sata HDD? I just got a new 3060 ti as well.
100%
Probably the one you tested had TLC instead of QLC.
Nah, it's QLC.
@@TechTesters Pretty impressive results then. I really like your SSD reviews by the way, keep up the good work :)
you are the best =)
For broke people like me this is a perfect nvme ssd
Amazon have the 4tb p3 and p3 plus on at 350 and 355 euro respectively.
As someone looking for this as an External drive with option to use internally as a storage drive on a laptop with 2 m.2 slots at a later date, is this a good option??
If this is relatively cheap for a 4TB drive where you are, I think it makes sense for that use case :)
just bough p3 4tb for 254, did u buy 1
p3+ or p5+ for strictly gaming
P5+ assuming its pretty cheap.
@@TechTesters$54 as of rn. 10 dollar difference between them
Is this ok to install in a ps5
I have same question,.
is tbw low? 800tb
Are you ever going to reach that? Doubt it.
Can I make this to install my OS?
did you installed OS on that ?
@@Voltomess yes it's been a year still working fine. But planning to transfer my os to my samsung evo when it arrives. Much faster.
Hi, will it work fine with PS5?
did u find out?
@@mahin6ix not exactly, but I don't think it will cause problems since it supports gen4.
Nice 👍
This drive sucks for any large writes. If you transfer ever a 20gb file it TANKS. It’s good for a very very basic gaming drive
I just copied 117gb from sata to 4tb p3 plus in minutes fyi.
I think sn770 is much better option
If it costs the same (or a bit more), yeah.
and way more expensive
The algorithm hasn't steered me towards your vids for a very long time. I'm wondering why that is. It's a mystery to everyone except the freaks at UA-cam.
I took a long vacation. UA-cam doesn't like that :)
Prequel
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Hi Nada 😍
you sound exactly like tommy wiseau
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NEVER BUY QLC
But mine is QLC 3D NAND
@@boboboy8189 you LIE
Why?
First
Nice one, I'm proud of you :)