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Three Correctable Errors in my Flow Wall Desk Design/Build Challenge
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2023
- This video shows the challenging reverse engineering and construction of Robert van Embricqs Flow Wall Desk.
The URL of Mr. Embricqs web site is: www.robertvanembricqs.com/flowwalldesk (no affiliation)
Material used is 6/4 poplar milled to 13/16" thick.
Design CAD and CNC CAM software used is Fusion 360.
Awesome. Finding the right measurements was very hard, but your video helped a lot.
My table top was 21"× 38"× 3/4"
Which put the:
Pin at 11 (rounded" on slate #1 and #30 (half the size of the table depth)).
Slate width of 1 1/4" ( x30 slates=37.5". That leaves .5" if you wanted thin spacers.)
Hinges were 1 × 1.125( surprisingly hard to find cheap)
Because of the awkwardness of the piece I ended up securing the table top and slate 1 and 30 to the wall and added one slate at a time. By doing this you can mark the slot length the pin needs to slide.
Wow. Youre talented. Well done sir!! A master piece!
Amazing project, as an industrial design student looking for inspiration I really appreciate the quality of the work. I'm really glad I found your video, keep up the great work !
Thanks for watching. Good luck.
Great reverse engineering work. I've seen the original mentioned on Yanko Design and wished I could purchase it for my place where such a desk would be ideal. You show just how intricate the design is. This is clearly a case where a great craftsman needs great CAD skills and access to a CNC as well.
If there was a poetry in wood making ......then this piece of art is the One
You're brilliant at explaining this.I have never done woodwork but I would love to have this desk..I am trying to convince my husband who did woodwork in school to attempt it☺️
Was interested in making one of these desk but after your video I realize there's a lot more to it then what I had in mind
What an amazing piece! You make it look easy. I would love to try this someday.
Thanks for watching.
Fantastic piece thank you for sharing👏
Helluva design and I love the reverse engineering work. I will make an attempt at this project, but unfortunately without the aid of a CNC.
Chris, thanks for watching. This project definitely does not require a CNC. A jig saw and router table would do. Good luck..
Super helpful I saw this I wanted to make it and your video was incredibly helpful in answering some design questions I had while I was planning my build
Thanks very much for these details. I was wondering about making this and your video provides so much valuable info!
Thanks for watching. Good luck with your project.
Nivel Dios, tremendo su trabajo.
Very excilnent work. Good place you. From Bahrain.
I am not a woodworker at all. I wouldn’t even begin to know how to approach building this. But I would love to purchase this from you!
Thanks for watching, but this was a "one-off" that was gifted to my neighbor. Sorry, but I hope you enjoyed the video
I have one for sale if you are interested
I've been wanting to try this one out for a while now. Only problem I'm having is choosing a wood species to start with. I'm leaning towards Red Pine, but I'm worried that it might start to twist on me with the slats.
I might just go with oak instead. Not my favorite wood, but at least it's stable.😂
Hi Andrew, My project was of course poplar wood. It stayed straight and is a good choice for prototyping. I would agree that twisting would be a worry with pine. I observe that all the desks offered for sale by van Embricq on his web site seem to be oak. Thanks for watching.
Amazing explanation. Thanks a lot for your video
Hi i was very amazed by your work i am 15 years old and would you like to make this desk for my room but I only have a hand saw and drill can you give me measurements or blueprint to make it or can you make a video making the desk with only a hand saw and drill please please🙏🙏
Nice! Well done 👍🏼 I’d love to see written specs of everything but I don’t have a CNC machine 😒
With the slabs/strip, should it be the same width cut measurements as the cut surface measurement? eg. Slab width 31mm same as the cut measurements for the slab to be attached 31mm or it should be 32/33mm ?
what is the size of the wooden slats that slide
clearly what is the section of the 30 pieces used please?
best regards 10:29
Hello, My 30 slats were all 1.300" wide, and .943" thick. The spacer between the slats was .050" thick. Thanks for watching.
Freaking, amazing, amazing. I love it. I love it!!! How much would you charge me to make one? And do I have to have the natural wood? Can I get it in black? Or in like a bamboo type of wood, I love it. How much would it cost to get one personally made?
Sorry, but this was a one- off project for a neighbor. I believe they are available for purchase from Mr Van Embricqs. His website is mentioned in this video's description. I recall he had a black version. Good luck.
Hello Richard, I'm looking at it from Argentina, I would like to know if you have the drawing plans, you have very sophisticated tools, I would like to do it with more basic tools, I would like to have all the wood dimensioned. Thank you, your work is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.
Sorry, I cannot made plans available. Basic tools should be fine, though I think a router table of some sort would be almost essential for making the slots. Thanks for watching and good luck.
Hello Richard, This is amazing video Thanks for sharing
I want to make this table but I'm confused how to Draw line for "D shap" ( measurements). Please tell me what is the length and width of "D" Shap.
I hope you have understand my question.
Can you give me exact mesure 🙏
Where is the hole located on the 1st slat for the 3/8" rod? Amazing build btw.
@Richard Evans, Thank you for this video! I was wondering how you determined where to run the rod through so that the desktop would stay level?
Hi Niels, great question. I first made an approximation of the lower rod location through the slats (which is the rod location when the desk is flat to the wall) by scaling from the pictures on Mr. van Embricqs' web site. I then used the Fusion 360 model to fine-tune and confirm the correct upper location of the rod slots by trial and error. The correct upper location being where the rod needs to stop (in each slat) so that the desk top is perpendicular the the plane that represents the wall when the desk is deployed. The Fusion moving model made this surprisingly doable.
Damn thia grandpa is level master!!!! Using pc with CNC, Jes..christ!!!
Grandpa???
Richard, sorry to keep on bothering you but I have an additional question. What spacing did you create between the “Slats” once assembled?
Thank you again.
Hello Jim, my spacing was .050". This was achieved with about 1" x 1" wood spacers of this thickness glued to the slats. See at 14:50 in video.
Cool✌️
amazing ... can you give me the autodesk file , and what is the machine name do you work with?
thank you
Plz can you give me exact measurements
What is your email?
@richardevans6891 Hi, amazing work. Can u pls update if it’s possible to order one piece for my home office .. and how much would it cost?
Thanks a lot
Sorry but this was an one-off build for a neighbor. Not available for sale here. You may find it on van Embricqs website mentioned in the description of this video.
Hi amazing project with amazing result 😀
I would like to try to make it i figured out pretty much everything except the measurments for table top steps when you are starting from center how much are they going down? First i was thinking is the same but know i can see there is a different measurmen for each of those steps...
I appreciate the help
Hello Vedran. The horizontal measurement of every step is 1.35". The vertical measurements of each step (in inches) starting from the center are: .087, .282, .426, .574, .726, .885, 1.052, 1.229, 1.419, 1.627, 1.856, 2.115, 2.413, 2.809, and 4.000. The total width of the top is 40.45". The total height of the top is 21.50". Good luck. Thanks for watching.
@richardevans6891 thank you I'm gonna try to change all of that in metric it's way easier 😀
@@vedranincanada Hello ! I am trying to do the same, did you success to change it into metric? :)
@@richardevans6891 You give 15 measurements here for the vertical measurements for the steps starting from the center. Does this mean we subtract .087" from that initial 21.5" depth of the desk for the center slat to attach to?
Nice work Richard. Can I ask was there a clearance on the slot width for the .375 round rod?
Hello Jim, My CNC tool path specified a width of .375". Then to provide clearance, I hand sanded the slot using sand paper stuck on a thin scrap of wood just enough to allow a smooth sliding fit with a test piece of rod. There was not a lot of sanding required. Thanks for watching.
Richard, Jim here again. I have another question. Was there any deflection in the center of your .375" rod based on the weight of the desk when placed in the open position? If so, how did you compensate so the desk became 90 degrees perpendicular to the wall? Were the slot locations adjusted accordingly?
I use SolidWorks as my modeling package and can make all the necessary compensations as required.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks.
Hello Jim, I made no compensation for potential deflection of the rod. In the actual operation of the desk there did not seem to be any apparent deflection. Good luck.
Hi, im new to the carpentry trade, just finished college here in England. Im attempting this and wanted to ask, the internal grooves where the steel rod goes through, what are the dimensions from where the groove starts and finishes on all the arms?
Draw a line perpendicular through all the slats as they should appear in the final product somewhere around the vertical center, then find the center of that line and draw a semi circle from that point across all slats which follows the same arc as the "table" part. Now just draw another perpendicular line across the lower part of the curve in each slat and there is your minimum and maximum points for the grooves in each slat.
Great job! Does the desk seem stable? How much weight would it hold do you think?
Desk is easily stable enough to use a lap top, or use as a writing desk. Have not tested the weight capacity. Thanks for watching.
@@richardevans6891 All of the weight of both desk and whatever is on it is supported by the two hinges on the blocks that attach to the wall, and of course the screws that attach those hinges. So you can probably work it backwards if you're building one. Start with how much weight you want it to be able to hold, then figure out how to get hinges, hinge fasteners and attachment blocks that can hold that much.
Another point of concern might be the steel rod. It supports all of the vertical slats except the two outside ones, so if you put a lot of weight on the center of the desk, especially towards the back, it might begin to bow. It seems to me that would take a lot of weight, though, especially since to bow the rod would also have to press the outer slats inwards, and with the spacers there isn't much room for things to flex inwards. My guess is that the rod bowing wouldn't be a problem unless you were trying to put hundreds of pounds on it.
Why would you need to join the table top from small slat with glue? Can you just use a single large piece of wood and cut out the shape.
Gluing the top up from smaller slats was a cosmetic decision. Making the top from a single piece, or a glue-up from fewer larger timbers, would not effect the function of the project. Thanks for watching.
would you please let me know where did you buy the hinges from? brand/item#? part#? i want to order similar hinges for another project I'm working on - Please let me know - Thx
I purchased the hinges on Amazon. Here is link: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08JLTV1QY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I used the 1" size. Thanks for watching.
Awesome job. I'd be interested in making one myself. Do you have the fusion file available for this?
Would love to make one as well. If you do have the fusion file that would be a real help ! Amazing job here.
Sorry, but I cannot provide the fusion file. If you are a Fusion user there should be enough hints in the video to allow you to do your own similar design. It may seem weird but making the fusion model is as much fun as the real wood working.
Hey does anyone have measurement for this or blueprint? Thanks! I want to surprise my wife
Hi Richard. I dont suppose you know the length of each slat, obviously they're mirrored so just 1-15. That would be really useful
The first and last one is tricky due to the extra hinge point.
Actually I think I only need the length of the shortest slat and how far from the top of the slat does the slot end.
I'm really enjoying this. There's no need for plans etc. You've provided hints and answered comments. I think with this info it should be buildable. Or at least have a stab at it and then fine tune it. The position of the rod is difficult if it's not right the table won't be flat. I've taken some screen shots from your video and trying to measure off that. But if you could provide the length of the shortest slat and the distance from the top to where the slot ends I should be able to calculate it and then confirm it with the measurements from the video stills. Thanks Richard
@@peterjordan5947 Hello Peter, In my desk implementation, shortest slat #15 = slat#16 = 24.000" long. The slot in those slats start .607" from top of slat (measured from the center of 3/8" arc at slot end). The slot stops 7.910" from the bottom of slat (again measured from the 3/8" arc center). This is all, of course, for my particular desk. I imagine there are many alternate formulations that will work. Thanks for watching and good luck.
@@richardevans6891Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I'm moving house next weekend but after I'm settled in I'm going to give this a try. I really appreciate how informative your video is and how you take to time to reply to all the comments. I'll let you know how I get on.
I had one more question but you've been so helpful I feel bad asking, so please don't feel you have to answer. But if you're feeling generous, what length did you use for the two short support pieces at the top of slats 1 & 30
Anyone have the file anywhere, to take to a CNC place? Haha I'm lazy and bad at stuff like this..
So I really want to make this, but I would be new to fusion 360. How hard would it be to learn the tool and do this design as a newbie.
Hi Stephen, I would say this would be a pretty hard project for a newbie to Fusion, unless you already have other computer design experience. If new to all computer design, I suggest a couple of simpler design projects in Fusion, before trying to tackle this. Of course, there is very low risk to give it a go. As a hobbyist you can get Fusion for free.
There are lots of training tutorials on UA-cam. Good luck.
@@richardevans6891 thanks Richard. I appreciate it.
what measurements did you use?
What are the length on each hole thats inside the wood?
Hello. The lengths of the slots in each slat #2 thru #15 in inches for my desk are: 1.660, 3.310, 4.945, 6.474, 8.047, 9.465, 10.763, 10.927, 12.816, 13.753, 14.496, 15.020, 15.371, and 15.481. Slat #1 is special; its "slot" is simply a circular hole with diameter of .375. The lengths listed above are the distances between the centers of the .375" diameter arcs at the end of each slot. Slat numbers 16 thru 30 are of course the mirror image. The width of the slots is .375" to accommodate the steel rod. Good luck.
Oh my God. I've been doing the maths for these slot lengths by hand using trigonometry. This saves so much time.
What kind of wood is this ?
All solid poplar. Thanks for watching.
Can I buy one from you please!
Can somebody give me the measurements?
What's is your email?
What are the dimensions of the desk top and the slats? Also where did you buy the metal rod?
Hello Elbrahim, The steel rod was purchased at Ace Hardware, a standard item. It is 3/8" in diameter. The rod was cut to length and threads were added on each end with a thread cutter die. My desk top has a length of 40.45" and a maximum depth of 21.50"; thickness is about 1". Each of the slats have a cross section of 1.30" wide x about 1" thick. Good luck and thanks for watching.
@@richardevans6891 thank you so much. do you think this is doable with 3/4 inch thick wood? I want to do a test run with plywood before I ruin good wood. Thanks.
@@eibrahim It may be difficult to use 3/4" plywood because a 3/8"+ slot must be cut in each slat. Give it a try on a couple test slats. Maybe as an alternative some less-expensive construction lumber could be planed down to 1" for a test project. That is essentially what I did using poplar wood for a test project.
I am building it now. How do I know how to size each slot in each piece? I know they have to be different but how accurate do I have to be?
Are you able to share your fusion design? I don’t mind paying for it
hello i am going to get married soon so i want to make this portable table i am using solidworks. can you give me the cad file accordingly please