@@bishopdaking717 not really. Wcs is instant, whereas kamui is lightspeed. Kamui opens a very small ripple in space whereas wcs cuts a very large area of space. The only thing that makes kamui better is that it might have a bit more range, and that kakashi is using it, bc kakashi’s reaction speed just scales way above sukuna’s.
@@OkRoomer123- How tf does everyone and their mother know who Kakashi is...? I half expected Kaguya when she emerged to be like; "Ahh, is that you? Kakashi of the Sharingan.". Even Hagoromo knew the dude.
@@Dunny420 Yeah, i read boruto, though dms kakashi is still pretty op there, kamui ignores durabillity, and lets you phase through all attacks, all kakashi needs is enough speed to tag you, and did you know that he speed blitzed kaguya while she was focusing on him and she had her byakugon up? So i guess it really depends on where you scale kaguyas speed in comparison to boruto characters.
As the strongest copycat, W-kashi, fought the fraud, the king of getting offscreen'd, he began to open his mangyeko. Gojo shrunk back in fear, and W-kashi said: "Stand proud Gojo. You are strong."
@@sohomporey7846gojo and jjk as a verse get annihilated by the akatsuki objectively when considering their most consistent scaling. but by your logic i must hate jjk for simply pointing this out.
that was a terrible argument to use you do realise the author of invincible thinks omni man can beat superman? An author statement on cross verse means so little
The guy who is able to Kamui a skull sized portal before Six Paths Naruto can move few inches would DEFINITELY be able to snap off Gojo's neck before the synapses even reach his brain.
@@UNKNOWNL3G3ND Kakashi can kamui a rasengan with obito and Naruto not knowing it happen Even tho Obito has precognition and way better sight with both a Ms and Rinnegan
@@gameuniverse5973 Exactly, infact he can Kamui a HUMANOID without Obito realising, even a tailed in a very short period right before the bijuu blast reached them and surprised madara and obito. He only goes to get better with Kamui...
Kakashi being a lighting clone all along instead of the real thing is actually very on brand for him, making the infinite void scenario very realistic. After kakashi saw that, if the fight somehow continues to the point of Gojo regaining his DE again, the next Gojo fire it Kakashi could just counter it with Sharingan Genjutsu if Kakashi feels like very careful to not use the same trick twice.
I've found Infinity is best understood when you describe it as "a really strong slowness effect". that's not what it is, but most of the time, it might as well be
13:30 I think the reason it wasn’t so effective is that they were pure Curses at their core, where Sukuna was only possessing Megumi’s body and the regular humans were using human brains. Reminder that even a millisecond of Unlimited Void left Sukuna’s brain so damaged he couldn’t use Domain Expansion for like half of Shinjuku Showdown. It would explain why Gojo didn’t need to worry about immediately turning Jogo braindead despite Jogo being an order of magnitude weaker than even brain-damaged Sukuna, because Curse brains are built differently. Kakashi, like Sukuna, has a distinctly human brain even if Kakashi can process things faster on account of being waaay faster. Still, a full minute of Unlimited Void would definitely bypass all of Kakashi defenses, ‘cause the Sharingan is built to counter illusions - not a millenia’s worth of information being instantly shoved in a brain, and render Kakashi braindead. *Granted, Kakashi would never get hit by it whether by dodging or insta-killing Gojo before he can react, unless he really wanted to try and copy a domain expansion with his Sharingan for whatever reason.*
@Reseptics it was awful writing for sure. The ability at first was so vague that it was unbelievably broken. Cause technically there was nothing to stop sukuna from being able to slice through space in a way that he could just cut everyone simultaneously with them being unable to block or dodge it...or hell, cut the entire world in half. Thats how bad it was written
Everything you said is for sure right but only nitpick I have is that with the kakashi shadowclone in the domain expansion I feel like by him doing that would be bad because all information gets transferred from the clone to the person so I think kakashi would still get affected by infinity
Kamui can be countered as we see minato escape its pull when Obito tried pulling him in during the nine tails incident when Naruto was born. Minato just teleported to escape which Gojo can also teleport using his Blue so he can definitely escape kamui. Also, JJK characters can reinforce their bodies durability using cursed energy like sukuna did when he tanked the unlimited hollow purple. Naruto characters don’t have a durability buff other than characters like the uchiha, hashirama and kakashi
13:40 you’re so dirty for this☠️☠️☠️☠️. You know domain’s work different for curse spirits because their brains work and operate differently and They were only exopsed to a 0.2 second domain
Another way to visualise how domains interact with CTs is to liken the use of a CT to be like making an ice cube and the more CE you use the more solid the ice cube becomes. A DE however is like an oven, if your CT has a low amount of CE it will just be overwhelmed by the heat and melt, but the more solid ice cube, the longer it holds its shape. Gojo's limitless has the lowest output of all his techniques, in fact blue is just limitless with a ton more CE applied to it, and red is always double the output also making it more potent than infinity. This means your own energy needs to fill up the space you and Gojo are in and be thick enough to just "melt" away Gojo's infinity. DA notably works different. With DA you'd have to imagine a CT as a concentrated juice and the DA as water. The DA dilutes the CTs and making it so low output techniques like limitless just get neutralised.
one thing i dont ever see mentioned about gojo, even though he does it alot in universe; doesnt he just basically teleport around with blue? not fully, but moves at super high speed. you never see it brought up but that should make him way past the normal calcs of speed compared to the other jjk characters.
It's been far to long since i've heard naruto speed arguments, but i have a feeling that kakashi is still way faster. Someone else in the comments mentioned something about how kakashi was able to create a skull sized portal before naruto in six path sage mode could move a few inches. Don't know how valid that it is, but i've heard a lot about how compared to naruto, jjk characters are nothing in speed regardless of how much faster gojo is than other jjk characters.
The problem with teleporting like Gojo's is its not automatic he has to actively realizes there is a threat do a hand sign then teleport and put simply Kakashi is in a realm of speed where Gojo isn't going to be able to realize what's happening before he dies.
One thing with Gojo's DE, the barriers for domain expansions don't form instantly as far as I'm aware. They form quickly, but not instantly. And most high tier Naruto characters are near ftl at least, so they could realistically just.... leave the domain expansion before it closes.
The anime made it seem like the fish shikigami were in a state of "nonexistence" and traveled through the air until they reached maki. The moment they bite, they fully "exist" in reality. I guess they don't really spawn on your coordinates, but rather travel to your coordinates and then truly become real when they hit you.
Dagons domain was weird but most domain sure hit will always land unless there's something preventing them from touching you. Such as a domain counter, other wise the attacks will spawn on you, dagons domain had attacks that would fly at you and attacks that spawn on you, but it's most likely that the sure hit travels somewhat in dagons domain as they either come from dagon or from the sea.
There are three ways to scale Gojo's strength and power. (Low-end scaling) In chapter 221 after Gojo was unsealed from the prison realm he finds himself 8,000 meters underwater in the "Japanese Trench" in the "Subduction Zone" which is important since that is where tectonic plates dive back into the mantle of the earth, and he would have been getting crushed by two tectonic plates diving back into the mantle thus he would have had to physically push the plates apart in order to leave and met up with Kenjaku and by doing this he created an earthquake that reached all the way to the "Saitama Prefecture" and the calculations for this feat from "VS BATTLE WIKI" puts it around 4.204942e+19 to 2.364613e+20 joules or island levels of power. Keep in mind that Gojo most likely did this without his Cursed Technique active since he was hit by Jacob's ladder from inside the prison realm and the evidence that supports this is the fact that Gojo's jacket was completely torn to shreds, if Gojo's infinity was active his jacket wouldn't have been damaged thus supporting my claim. In Goji-Chronic's "Ryomen Sukuna vs Nicole Watterson" video had a calc that brought Gojo's earthquake to around 1.61453537E+23 joules or 38.588 teratons of TNT (country level) which is backed up by other calcs in the video for other characters..... Sukuna clearing the sky in his fight with Makora season 2 episode 17: 3.601E+18 joules or 860.646 megatons of TNT (mountain level+) to 617156124E+20 joules or 147.503854 gigatons of TNT (large island level). Hana using Jacob's ladder (with both arms) on Sukuna in chapter 213: 4.33142375E+22 joules or 35 teratons of TNT (country level) Uraume effortlessly creating a snow storm in chapters 236 and 237: 5.4 teratons of TNT (small country level+) (Mid-end scaling). The durability/toughness/HP of JJK characters scales higher than their AP which is proven through "Black Flash" which in chapter 48 stated that impact of it is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5 which is insane. Example 1: Geto took a black flash from Yuta to the face and not only survived but was still able to keep on fighting. In JJK 0 it was stated that Rika could have destroyed a whole town (I personally think this downplays their power since Rika scales above the Disaster Curses but for the sake of argument I'll roll with it) but they never said how big the town was so I will scale this by starting from the low to mid to high end scaling. (Numbers of joules come from VS BATTLE WIKI) Small town level 4.184×10^12 to 2.42672×10^13 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^31 to 2.901×10^33 joules: small planet to planet level. Town level 2.42672×10^13 to 4.184×10^14 joules ^2.5 = 2.901×10^33 to 3.58079×10^36 joules: planet to large planet level. Large town level 4.184×10^14 to 4.184×10^15 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^36 to 1.132×10^39 joules: large planet to darf star level. Keep in mind that Kenjaku who had possession of Geto's body was going to be killed by Gojo in one punch and Sukuna effortlessly blocked it, this tells us that Gojo and Sukuna's AP and durability/ HP scale extremely higher than the other JJK characters. Further evidence that supports this is the fact that Tengen was powerful enough to suppress half of Yuki's black hole which has been calculated to be around large planet to dwarf star level, and Kenjaku stated that the earth would've been destroyed if not for both Tengen's barrier and Yuki's will suppressing it which means that if Tengen didn't help in suppressing it the earth would have still been destroyed, and before people say that it was hax and it doesn't scale to her keep in mind that not long after Tengen helped suppress half of Yuki's black hole she is shown in a heavily weakened state from suppressing it thus her barrier's strength scale to her physical body as well. And both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than Tengen is, thus they would not only scale to Tengen's feat but above it as well. Example 2: Hanami is comparable in strength to Jogo whose "Maximum: Meteor" was stated it can turn a town and its surroundings to ashes and dust (according to the "official JJK fan book"). According to "VS BATTLE WIKI" the AP of the Meteor would be around 8.3086954e+23 joules or around large country levels of power. Yuji was able to keep up with her in their fight so he too would scale to it, thus Yuji's Black Flashes would be around multi-solar system levels of AP and Hanami took five of them and was still able to keep on fighting after that. We all know Gojo would have been able to effortlessly one shot her without having to give it his all. (High-end scaling) In chapter 234 Gojo used "Maximum Output: Blue" to destroy "Chimera Beast: Agito" who earlier in the chapter survived a Black Flash from Gojo, and while the Black Flash did tore a hole in its gut the shikigami was able to effortlessly heal from it where with the MO: Blue it wasn't able to do so. This tells us that both Gojo and Sukuna's maximum techniques are not only able to match but surpass the output of a Black Flash, further evidence supports this with Gojo's "Unlimited Hollow Purple" being able to obliterate Makora who was able to take two Black Flashes from Gojo and didn't sustain anywhere near the same level of damage that Agito did from just one Black Flash from Gojo. Thus by adding this to the scaling above you would get both Gojo and Sukuna's AP to around "solar system levels" to "multi-galaxy levels" to "universal levels' of power. Chapter 219 supports this with a character named Yorozu who was able to create a "True Sphere" with her "Curse Technique: Construction" which is creating infinite pressure, and before people say that it is hax that doesn't scale to her directly chapter 42 and episode 17 of season 1 states that "Curse Technique: Construction" can put strain on the body of the caster as shown when their nose is bleeding and the fact that Yorozu could still be able to use "Domain Expansion" after creating the True Sphere shows just how powerful she is and both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than her. I'll leave it up to you to decide which one is most likely true.
Counterargument, kamui doesnt open instantly, as shown when minato was able to react to being sucked into it and teleport before he was fully sucked in. Gojo could potentially do the same thing, especially with the six eyes. This is bad for kakashi as its a very limited, nonspammable win condition, meanwhile gojo can teleport as much as he wants.
"Counterargument, kamui doesnt open instantly, as shown when minato was able to react to being sucked into it and teleport before he was fully sucked in. Gojo could potentially do the same thing" Yes but its EXTREMELY fast way faster then anything Gojo has been shown reacting too even at his highest tier of scaling.
@@SRVarisAre we forgetting Gojo ran back to the school, grabbed Yuji, and brought him back all during the duration of a single attack? Gojo 100% has speed feats, if anything id argue Kakashi is lacking speed, especially when you compare him to actual fast people in his verse like Naruto, Sasuke, and Minato. This entire fight feels like it's basically winging on Kamui tbh.
Counterargument. Dude is comparing gojo to minato reaction speed. Also, Gojo's requirements for TP are strange because he never used it during the fight with sukuna.
Genuinely curious: why can't gojo "teleport" away (ik it's not actual teleportation) before he gets sucked in just like how Minato teleported away from Obito when he was getting kamui'd during the nine tails invasion on the leaf village
I wouldnt say its 9/10 times. Id say its more 7/10. Kakashi still can win pretty easy. But youre also under estimating gojo. Gojo has shown that he is very skilled in hand to hand combat without infinity activate (see vs miguel and vs sukuna). Gojo can also lace him punches with blue making them drastically stronger. There is also the fact that kakashi doesnt know what gojos abilities do. If he was able to pull off the same maximum output purple like he did to mahoraga to kill him, its over. I dont think kakashi is tanking a full power purple. Dont get me wrong, i still think kakashi wins more times than not. But dont sleep on the blue eyed king
I like the idea that gojo could counter a domain expansion by just increasing the range and output of infinity 0.2 seconds before their domain lands. If amplification is like wearing an empty domain and gojo says it takes a lot of output, and they are even described as being able to use a domains sure hit kill if they hit you with their tech then it can’t be that much weaker than a domain expansion, just far less versatile. Gojo could have probably just strengthened the infinity barrier to cancel jogos domain. It’s a hard maybe but it could be possible
7:30 Blackhole possibly uzumaki possibly granite blast possibly love beam truth sphere if we go by pure output, these things should have more and should as a result just go through infinity Also, you finally accept CTs are not turned off in domains?
Had to make a comment glazing gojo rq, he really stronger than people think, as there is a clear chain of power that puts him and sukuna at relativistic or SOL and Planetary even with a near planetary feat that people seem to miss as gojo breaks an anti gojo barrier meant to test how long they could keep gojo away, a barrier that should be relative to the one meant to contain an earth mass black hole temporarily. Also while kenjaku does cancel her tech with an anti tech, it would still need relative power to completely nullify the black hole for those 6 seconds. Like if you put 1 anti particle against 100 particles, it still only annihilates 1 not all 100.
@@Hcjeiwjcap is different than dp, just because a character is able to hurt someone who can tank a star exploding doesn't mean the person who hurt them can also blow up a star.
The major problem is unless you think Kakashi can punch through infinity due to being stronger its not interesting because Gojo wins with no difficulty(As long as he NEVER uses a domain because Hokage Kakashi would just dodge it)
@@SRVaris What would gojo even have to kill kakashi though? Hokage kakashi is dead ass stronger then war arc kakashi in the light novels, he just doesn't have kamui, kakashi would dodge all of his attacks, like even if you would argue he would just outlast kakashi (Which hokage kakashi has hella stamina so i mean, it wouldn't be easy.) it definitly isn't with NO difficulty, gojo has to fight him for bare minimum DAYS, which gojo can do, he has six eyes after all, but he's gonna be tired as shit.
@@dattos140 Literally his only way to kill Kakashi is to outlast him the only reason I say no difficulty is because Gojo will never be in danger of being harmed throughout the fight
@@SRVaris Yeah but that seems more like a stalemate then a no diff, i mean, kakashi wouldn't really have to try either, bro would just be reading a book while dodging the occasional purple or something.
I would think Six Eyes would allow Gojo to know he hit a substitution and also to see Kakashi building up chakra so he’d be more on the defense. Six Eyes and is great in battles because they would allow one’s perception to be expanded almost like Byakugan
this was always obvious. kakashi outscales gojo in every stat and on top of that he basically has the wcs but if it actually made sense and didn’t require limited conditions to use. kakashi unironically solo's all of jjk.
Not really. Kamui doesn't one shot anyone because the narrative doesn't want him to. When he does try for the one shot something always prevents him. With Deidara it was lack of skill on his part. With Kakuzu and Hidan he was holding off so Shikamaru and then Naruto could shine. With Pain he was more focused on info gathering because at that point they knew the bodies were puppets. He wasn't gonna try to one shot Sasuke. And after that Obito is used to stop him. So it's not that Kamui can't one shot anyone but that story doesn't want it to.
I can see why gojo's becoming the new character that everyone pits their matchups against. He's the new gen powerhouse anime character who, on paper, possesses a space time ability that essentially makes him untouchable by anything he comes up against, sparking up debate on whether X character can bypass infinity with X factor. I think Gege accidentally created a walking engagement farmer 🫠
Gojo stops at anything planetary+ usually. Cause most characters above that have some kind of ability that bypasses space time or warps space. So he only goes so far
Gojo would have to face Naruto Bridge arc Kakashi to win this. Also I know it’s because the mangaka hadn’t thought of Kamui back then, but I wonder if Kakashi had used it in the past and as teen/ young adult Kakashi he knocked himself out from exhaustion for probably weeks and that’s why he settles for keeping the headband on to avoid accidentally using mangekyo, not just the consistent chakra drain from the Sharingan.
I agree with the argument that infinity can be overpowered. I just don't think it can be done with just anything though. I think it has to be overpowered by anothers curse energy and not just any form of energy.
You saying the domains sure hit doesn’t spawn on you doesn’t make any sense, it literally does spawn. You mentioned Dagon shikigami but he summons the shikigami and then uses them as the guranteed hit. If the guranteed hit doesn’t spawn on you then the term “sure hit” would be useless as u can dodge it. Jogo was even testing the waters behe used his sure hit on Gojo too. And it’s the same with yorozu: she summoned the perfect sphere, deployed her domain and was about to use it as the sure hit but she was confused why Sukuna didn’t deploy his
Well this doesn't respond to seeing Sukuna's slashes literally travel to Gojo's domain barrier. It doesn't spawn on the person and it can be a guaranteed hit because of speed or like in Mahito's case you're just always in the palm of his hand.
@@OkRoomer123- we quite literally see dragon shikigami be behind him before they go towards naobito,nanami,and maki same with toji there shown swimming up to him Sure hit is more like they attack immediately and hone in on the chars with it being like a heat seeking missile
@@sixfromtokyo I see them as like attacks that are faster than the char themselves who use the domain with it honing on the target With no matter where they are in the domain they can't hide from it With being most of the time constant attacks that happens every few seconds while the user can attack themselves or keep their distance I never thought people where thinking sure hits are attacks that just spawns on the target unless dagon shikigami being shown swimming from behind him to charging at the trio was only in the anime
@@sixfromtokyo I don’t think u understand what Sukuna did to counter Gojo’s condensed barrier. Sukuna turned his sure hit off in unlimited void and target the barrier of it in the real world and everything around it, if we can see the slashes attacking the barrier doesn’t refute what I said. And no speed doesn’t play a factor as it’s guranteed to hit the target, said by hit characters and narrator multiple times. And Dagon and Yorozu are perfect examples. The summon what they’re gonna use as a sure hit like the aforementioned shikigami and perfect sphere and then use it as a sure hit hence the name.
@@OkRoomer123- what you can quite literally see dagon shikigami being behind dagon before charging at the trio if they literally spawn on the target why would they be where dagon was
It's crazy how Sukuna is the one that killed Gojo and is treated as the strongest in the verse but the only one worth talking about when it comes to cross-verse battles is Gojo because everyone knows Sukuna isn't doing shit
Well yeah, sukuna is stronger, but gojo has better hax, if gojo and sukuna had the same curse technique, sukuna would just wash him, the only reason gojo got so far against sukuna is that infinity is just a better technique then shrine, all shrine does is cut and cook shit, infinity brings mathmatical concepts into reality. Like, jotaro from part 3 has a stronger stand then fugo from part 5 right? But purple haze has a fucking virus that can kill ANYTHING in 30 seconds, despite star platinum being faster, stronger, and more precise in every way, star platinum couldn't kill goku, but if purple haze's virus infects goku? He literally just dies, we all know goku ain't immune to virus's or poisons, so yeah, if he just stood there and got hit by purple haze, the best he can get is a tie, cause he would die to the virus eventually, but that doesn't mean fugo is stronger than jotaro, it just means the fugo has a really busted abillty, thats better in versus matches, but jotaro would be better against someone who's immune to virus's, cause they would be immune to purple haze.
@@moronicgenius8971 No? Unless it was limitless, all the six eyes does is reduce curse energy expendage, and sukuna has like, A SHIT TON of cursed energy, do you need to reread the gauntlet sukuna went through? He never even recovered cursed energy at all through all of that shit, even when he got his heien era body back, dude didn't get any cursed energy back., and he was still spamming all of his moves like it was nothing. But if they were both using limitless, then yeah, cause without the six eyes, you can't really use limitless, but any other one? On god, sukuna still wins that shit, i swear running out of cursed energy isn't a problem for EITHER of them.
@dattos140 No I was talking about Limitless. I've read JJK twice and I'm well aware that neither of them would bottom out during a fight considering Sukuna has over twice as much CE as Yuta with better refinement than everybody but Gojo who has the Six Eyes. Idk where you got this idea that Gojo would get washed from though. We've seen that even when his technique is burnt out and he's using RCT while getting hit with repeated cleaves from Malevolent Shrine and fighting with Sukuna he was still able to keep up with him. Their stats are basically indistinguishable with any difference in skill most likely going to Gojo rather than Sukuna. The only advantages Sukuna has over Gojo that would give him the win would be his extra arms and mouth and his open barrier Domain. Sukuna's Open Barrier Domain Expansion was arguably a more important advantage than him having the Ten Shadows and Mahoraga in their fight. If Gojo had the same thing or knew about the ability beforehand the fight would've ended before Sukuna even got the chance to summon Mahoraga. Obviously what makes Gojo so much more capable in a cross-verse battle than Sukuna is his hax, but I wouldn't call that the same as the difference between Fugo and Jotaro where Fugo is very clearly a weaker combatant in basically every area. Gojo ended up split in half on the floor in front of Sukuna and yet when you actually look at what the two of them are capable of there's nothing that makes Sukuna more powerful or outright "stronger" than Gojo, he just has his Open Barrier Domain which is only a useful tool inside of the verse of JJK since it can destroy other Domains from the outside.
He isn’t treated as such, he is. The fact that Gojo even lost with abilities that utterly eclipse the rest of the cast is an unfathomable L. Just speaks for Sukuna even more
@@Nathan-s3e7ythats an invalid point, just because author says someone could beat him in an older version of said character before they gave him massive buffs doesn't apply to him now. Same logic goes for the creator of invincible saying omni man could beat superman, I guess omni beats superman because the creator of invincible says so. An author saying something related to something outside there version doesn't make there statement valid, there statement is only valid if it's related to stuff inside there verse that isn't contradicted by statements within the series or past statements by said author, it's like if gege said gojo can now beat Kakashi I guess that means gojo beats Kakashi, an opinion isn't a fact.
@thyentity6295 First off, it gege known and has a full understanding of gojo power and has not gave any thing new in the surkna fight , so unlike omni beating Superman statement he saying that gojo would lose against kakashi
@Nathan-s3e7y when gege made that statement gojo wasn't as strong as he was now, also gege isn't a powerscaler and barley understands everything in his series as he barley understands how infinity works as he needs actual mathematicians to do the math for him. Gojo isn't weaker or stronger just because the author of jjk states so, it's only true if he actually took the time to scale both characters and used logic to try and explain why gojo loses. Simply saying my character wins or losses because I think so without explaining why or knowing why makes there opinion irrelevant as it's only an opinion not a fact.
@coolme241 I said Sukuna with infinity bypass, meaning with mahoraga, only thing holding Sukuna back is infinity, without it gojo would of lost before the first domain clash
Would DEFINITELY!
Boruto era Sasuke vs Hit the Assassin will be interesting, stats equalized.
by close
@@xTV0TheIMVUStomper Not at all. Kakashi simply stomps due to being leagues superior in every way.
Nah@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b
Kamui has to be one of the hardest counters to infinity out there
It’s honestly better than the in series counter Sukuna used against Gojo.
@@bishopdaking717yeah because it actually makes sense. unlike the wcs sukuna pulled out of his ass.
Bleach characters can do this shit casually
@@bishopdaking717 not really. Wcs is instant, whereas kamui is lightspeed. Kamui opens a very small ripple in space whereas wcs cuts a very large area of space. The only thing that makes kamui better is that it might have a bit more range, and that kakashi is using it, bc kakashi’s reaction speed just scales way above sukuna’s.
@@godoftune WCS is not instant, Maki literally dodges it.
"So you're Kakashi, the famous copy ninja" -Gojo probably before losing
Naa the moment the villain acknowledges kakashi as the copy ninja he instantly gets folded
@@OkRoomer123- idk, Kakuzu got a hole in his chest
@OkRoomer123- Lol this is the downside of being a famous assassin I guess
@@OkRoomer123- How tf does everyone and their mother know who Kakashi is...?
I half expected Kaguya when she emerged to be like; "Ahh, is that you? Kakashi of the Sharingan.".
Even Hagoromo knew the dude.
@@nirjhar4803 beats me🤷🏾♂️bro a bum thi
The revamp pfp took me off guard for a second 😂. I was like "who tf is this?"
Deadass😂
Same😂
Literally 😅
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"Stand proud Gojo, you are strong" - Kakashi
No kakashi no diff gojo
"Weak"
@@itsm9818definitely not
Kakashi got washed by a weakling like Kakuzu which Gojo could beat without even moving
@OkRoomer123- kakashi was straight boxing with kakazu and saving team 10 at the same time, then said he could've killed him with kamui anyway.
Ending the video with saying, "oooooor kakashi can just the substitution jitsu" was hilarious lmaoo
DMS Kamashi vs Gojo is literally hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
that would have been messy asf
Dms kakashi is dead ass one of the strongest people in HIS OWN VERSE, let alone jjk, it's way overkill.
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@@dattos140strongest from what we’ve seen in shippuden imo. I heard Boruto characters are stronger but I haven’t read it.
@@Dunny420 Yeah, i read boruto, though dms kakashi is still pretty op there, kamui ignores durabillity, and lets you phase through all attacks, all kakashi needs is enough speed to tag you, and did you know that he speed blitzed kaguya while she was focusing on him and she had her byakugon up? So i guess it really depends on where you scale kaguyas speed in comparison to boruto characters.
As the strongest copycat, W-kashi, fought the fraud, the king of getting offscreen'd, he began to open his mangyeko. Gojo shrunk back in fear, and W-kashi said: "Stand proud Gojo. You are strong."
How is he a fraud
@@SukiTheSharkagenda fun, no one actually thinks hes a fraud.
Same with sukuna
yaay
Gojo had to pay Six to change "definitely" to "likely"
LMAO
And Gojo haters pay you to insult Gojo
@@sohomporey7846 Sun Wukong definitely beats Goku therefore I must hate Goku.
@@sohomporey7846gojo and jjk as a verse get annihilated by the akatsuki objectively when considering their most consistent scaling. but by your logic i must hate jjk for simply pointing this out.
@@unusualreturns2774 why sun wokong and Goku comes in this conversation?
thanks for explaining infinity, i hope this blows up so that jjk fans understand their own manga
Or listen to the actual author of jjk that states kakashi wins this fight
that was a terrible argument to use you do realise the author of invincible thinks omni man can beat superman? An author statement on cross verse means so little
@imjustjay1 but that different because it is gege stating that his character would lose to another
@@imjustjay1 as he knows gojo full power and still states that gojo would lose
@@imjustjay1the author of invincible is not the author of Superman so he can’t really hold weight with his words (also he said it was ragebait)
The guy who is able to Kamui a skull sized portal before Six Paths Naruto can move few inches would DEFINITELY be able to snap off Gojo's neck before the synapses even reach his brain.
@@UNKNOWNL3G3ND Kakashi can kamui a rasengan with obito and Naruto not knowing it happen
Even tho Obito has precognition and way better sight with both a Ms and Rinnegan
@@gameuniverse5973 Exactly, infact he can Kamui a HUMANOID without Obito realising, even a tailed in a very short period right before the bijuu blast reached them and surprised madara and obito.
He only goes to get better with Kamui...
Dude he kamui'd Madara's truth seeker orb before Might Guy could land a punch.
He can literally kamui objects faster than freaking 8 gates Guy
@@Mad_scientist_ha_ha_ha And even faster characters lol
Kakashi: Nah i‘d win
Thought this was common sense since 2021😂
Not to diehard fans sadly
we’ll probably keep hearing this debate until they finish animating the series
Please touch me Six!
13:05 when you kept saying "o-o-o" I was finna start freestyling 🤣
six can rap though lowkey
Bless you Homie.
What a way to end my evening with a new vid from the goat himself.
Six literally made this video today 💀
Bro is edit watchin 💀
@ nah literally 😂
The new pfp goes so hard
I thought of starro when i saw it lmao
Kakashi bodies the kit kat one
Ez spawn camp🐐🔥
Gojo would just pull out the latest volume of Make Out Tactics and begin spoiling everything for Kakashi.
Kakashi being a lighting clone all along instead of the real thing is actually very on brand for him, making the infinite void scenario very realistic. After kakashi saw that, if the fight somehow continues to the point of Gojo regaining his DE again, the next Gojo fire it Kakashi could just counter it with Sharingan Genjutsu if Kakashi feels like very careful to not use the same trick twice.
I've found Infinity is best understood when you describe it as "a really strong slowness effect". that's not what it is, but most of the time, it might as well be
Impressive profile pic change. 👍
Very rare to hear Daniel Dennett's concept of the intuition pump come up in an anime video, lol. Good watch
Kakashi can also use Kamui to teleport himself. He did that to leave the kamui dimension.
love the pfp, and great video six!
13:30 I think the reason it wasn’t so effective is that they were pure Curses at their core, where Sukuna was only possessing Megumi’s body and the regular humans were using human brains. Reminder that even a millisecond of Unlimited Void left Sukuna’s brain so damaged he couldn’t use Domain Expansion for like half of Shinjuku Showdown.
It would explain why Gojo didn’t need to worry about immediately turning Jogo braindead despite Jogo being an order of magnitude weaker than even brain-damaged Sukuna, because Curse brains are built differently.
Kakashi, like Sukuna, has a distinctly human brain even if Kakashi can process things faster on account of being waaay faster. Still, a full minute of Unlimited Void would definitely bypass all of Kakashi defenses, ‘cause the Sharingan is built to counter illusions - not a millenia’s worth of information being instantly shoved in a brain, and render Kakashi braindead.
*Granted, Kakashi would never get hit by it whether by dodging or insta-killing Gojo before he can react, unless he really wanted to try and copy a domain expansion with his Sharingan for whatever reason.*
This is a given, Kamui is basically a better version of the World Slash that Killed Gojo
kamui is just wcs if it actually made sense and wasn't a contrived lazy way for the author to kill a character he had no idea what to do with.
@Reseptics it was awful writing for sure. The ability at first was so vague that it was unbelievably broken. Cause technically there was nothing to stop sukuna from being able to slice through space in a way that he could just cut everyone simultaneously with them being unable to block or dodge it...or hell, cut the entire world in half. Thats how bad it was written
@@LuciferArc1 It's a dismantle except it cuts space, What is so difficult to understand?
@@AhmedAhmed-ii4peit one-shots every sorcerer if aimed at the head
It literally cuts directly through you
@AhmedAhmed-ii4pe it slash target exists but still very simple conspect
1:13 for gojo fans out there
Finally, it's been a while. Six, this is finally a take. I know you're right on.
Everything you said is for sure right but only nitpick I have is that with the kakashi shadowclone in the domain expansion I feel like by him doing that would be bad because all information gets transferred from the clone to the person so I think kakashi would still get affected by infinity
How about a lightning clone?
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we need more spin offs of the JJK verse just cause the powerscaling is so fun
Don’t let Jaded see this, he’s about to debunk it
I feel like he'd rather twerk nude on a beach with freezing waters, than let anything be undebunked
Kamui can be countered as we see minato escape its pull when Obito tried pulling him in during the nine tails incident when Naruto was born. Minato just teleported to escape which Gojo can also teleport using his Blue so he can definitely escape kamui. Also, JJK characters can reinforce their bodies durability using cursed energy like sukuna did when he tanked the unlimited hollow purple. Naruto characters don’t have a durability buff other than characters like the uchiha, hashirama and kakashi
It would be crazy to see Gojo tryna troll Kakashi not knowing that Kakashi could catch him at any time
New icon fire brother 🔥🔥
Nice pfp, W video
3 days of torture. As for recovery, the sharingan allows for process of large amount of info extremely quickly. So he'd recover fairly fast.
13:40 you’re so dirty for this☠️☠️☠️☠️. You know domain’s work different for curse spirits because their brains work and operate differently and They were only exopsed to a 0.2 second domain
Cool thumbnail
I see the new pfp six 🧐
Depends if kakashi goes with everything he has from the 1 second and if jogo play around at the same time
Thumbnails raw asf
waiting for six to miss
12:50 i love your example XD
I like the pro pic 👍.
Dope new pfp
Another way to visualise how domains interact with CTs is to liken the use of a CT to be like making an ice cube and the more CE you use the more solid the ice cube becomes. A DE however is like an oven, if your CT has a low amount of CE it will just be overwhelmed by the heat and melt, but the more solid ice cube, the longer it holds its shape.
Gojo's limitless has the lowest output of all his techniques, in fact blue is just limitless with a ton more CE applied to it, and red is always double the output also making it more potent than infinity.
This means your own energy needs to fill up the space you and Gojo are in and be thick enough to just "melt" away Gojo's infinity.
DA notably works different. With DA you'd have to imagine a CT as a concentrated juice and the DA as water. The DA dilutes the CTs and making it so low output techniques like limitless just get neutralised.
New profile is fire six🔥🔥🔥
What was his old pfp?
War arc Kakashi can kamui out of unlimited void.
“2nd strongest” hurts so much 😭😭😭😭
one thing i dont ever see mentioned about gojo, even though he does it alot in universe; doesnt he just basically teleport around with blue? not fully, but moves at super high speed. you never see it brought up but that should make him way past the normal calcs of speed compared to the other jjk characters.
It's been far to long since i've heard naruto speed arguments, but i have a feeling that kakashi is still way faster. Someone else in the comments mentioned something about how kakashi was able to create a skull sized portal before naruto in six path sage mode could move a few inches. Don't know how valid that it is, but i've heard a lot about how compared to naruto, jjk characters are nothing in speed regardless of how much faster gojo is than other jjk characters.
The problem with teleporting like Gojo's is its not automatic he has to actively realizes there is a threat do a hand sign then teleport and put simply Kakashi is in a realm of speed where Gojo isn't going to be able to realize what's happening before he dies.
As someone who is a chronic overthinker, unlimited void would not work on me 😎
I just realized gojo did almighty push by expanding infinity
Dope vid🙌! You should do Kakashi vs Sukuna, or maybe put him in sukunas position during the Shijjuku showdown.
Kakashi sons all of the people in the Shinjuku showdown then solos kenjaku, sukuna,uraume, and raga afterwards before dinner
Kakashi low diffs Sukuna
One thing with Gojo's DE, the barriers for domain expansions don't form instantly as far as I'm aware. They form quickly, but not instantly. And most high tier Naruto characters are near ftl at least, so they could realistically just.... leave the domain expansion before it closes.
The coolest Mentor in History vs The Coolest Mentor of Today
Also how the hell did i miss this in my feed? 😠
Gojo can rewrite infinity. Interesting.
The anime made it seem like the fish shikigami were in a state of "nonexistence" and traveled through the air until they reached maki. The moment they bite, they fully "exist" in reality. I guess they don't really spawn on your coordinates, but rather travel to your coordinates and then truly become real when they hit you.
Dagons domain was weird but most domain sure hit will always land unless there's something preventing them from touching you. Such as a domain counter, other wise the attacks will spawn on you, dagons domain had attacks that would fly at you and attacks that spawn on you, but it's most likely that the sure hit travels somewhat in dagons domain as they either come from dagon or from the sea.
BRO CHANGED HIS AVI🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
There are three ways to scale Gojo's strength and power.
(Low-end scaling)
In chapter 221 after Gojo was unsealed from the prison realm he finds himself 8,000 meters underwater in the "Japanese Trench" in the "Subduction Zone" which is important since that is where tectonic plates dive back into the mantle of the earth, and he would have been getting crushed by two tectonic plates diving back into the mantle thus he would have had to physically push the plates apart in order to leave and met up with Kenjaku and by doing this he created an earthquake that reached all the way to the "Saitama Prefecture" and the calculations for this feat from "VS BATTLE WIKI" puts it around 4.204942e+19 to 2.364613e+20 joules or island levels of power. Keep in mind that Gojo most likely did this without his Cursed Technique active since he was hit by Jacob's ladder from inside the prison realm and the evidence that supports this is the fact that Gojo's jacket was completely torn to shreds, if Gojo's infinity was active his jacket wouldn't have been damaged thus supporting my claim.
In Goji-Chronic's "Ryomen Sukuna vs Nicole Watterson" video had a calc that brought Gojo's earthquake to around 1.61453537E+23 joules or 38.588 teratons of TNT (country level) which is backed up by other calcs in the video for other characters.....
Sukuna clearing the sky in his fight with Makora season 2 episode 17: 3.601E+18 joules or 860.646 megatons of TNT (mountain level+) to 617156124E+20 joules or 147.503854 gigatons of TNT (large island level).
Hana using Jacob's ladder (with both arms) on Sukuna in chapter 213: 4.33142375E+22 joules or 35 teratons of TNT (country level)
Uraume effortlessly creating a snow storm in chapters 236 and 237: 5.4 teratons of TNT (small country level+)
(Mid-end scaling).
The durability/toughness/HP of JJK characters scales higher than their AP which is proven through "Black Flash" which in chapter 48 stated that impact of it is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5 which is insane.
Example 1: Geto took a black flash from Yuta to the face and not only survived but was still able to keep on fighting. In JJK 0 it was stated that Rika could have destroyed a whole town (I personally think this downplays their power since Rika scales above the Disaster Curses but for the sake of argument I'll roll with it) but they never said how big the town was so I will scale this by starting from the low to mid to high end scaling.
(Numbers of joules come from VS BATTLE WIKI)
Small town level
4.184×10^12 to 2.42672×10^13 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^31 to 2.901×10^33 joules: small planet to planet level.
Town level
2.42672×10^13 to 4.184×10^14 joules ^2.5 = 2.901×10^33 to 3.58079×10^36 joules: planet to large planet level.
Large town level
4.184×10^14 to 4.184×10^15 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^36 to 1.132×10^39 joules: large planet to darf star level.
Keep in mind that Kenjaku who had possession of Geto's body was going to be killed by Gojo in one punch and Sukuna effortlessly blocked it, this tells us that Gojo and Sukuna's AP and durability/ HP scale extremely higher than the other JJK characters.
Further evidence that supports this is the fact that Tengen was powerful enough to suppress half of Yuki's black hole which has been calculated to be around large planet to dwarf star level, and Kenjaku stated that the earth would've been destroyed if not for both Tengen's barrier and Yuki's will suppressing it which means that if Tengen didn't help in suppressing it the earth would have still been destroyed, and before people say that it was hax and it doesn't scale to her keep in mind that not long after Tengen helped suppress half of Yuki's black hole she is shown in a heavily weakened state from suppressing it thus her barrier's strength scale to her physical body as well. And both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than Tengen is, thus they would not only scale to Tengen's feat but above it as well.
Example 2: Hanami is comparable in strength to Jogo whose "Maximum: Meteor" was stated it can turn a town and its surroundings to ashes and dust (according to the "official JJK fan book"). According to "VS BATTLE WIKI" the AP of the Meteor would be around 8.3086954e+23 joules or around large country levels of power. Yuji was able to keep up with her in their fight so he too would scale to it, thus Yuji's Black Flashes would be around multi-solar system levels of AP and Hanami took five of them and was still able to keep on fighting after that. We all know Gojo would have been able to effortlessly one shot her without having to give it his all.
(High-end scaling)
In chapter 234 Gojo used "Maximum Output: Blue" to destroy "Chimera Beast: Agito" who earlier in the chapter survived a Black Flash from Gojo, and while the Black Flash did tore a hole in its gut the shikigami was able to effortlessly heal from it where with the MO: Blue it wasn't able to do so. This tells us that both Gojo and Sukuna's maximum techniques are not only able to match but surpass the output of a Black Flash, further evidence supports this with Gojo's "Unlimited Hollow Purple" being able to obliterate Makora who was able to take two Black Flashes from Gojo and didn't sustain anywhere near the same level of damage that Agito did from just one Black Flash from Gojo. Thus by adding this to the scaling above you would get both Gojo and Sukuna's AP to around "solar system levels" to "multi-galaxy levels" to "universal levels' of power.
Chapter 219 supports this with a character named Yorozu who was able to create a "True Sphere" with her "Curse Technique: Construction" which is creating infinite pressure, and before people say that it is hax that doesn't scale to her directly chapter 42 and episode 17 of season 1 states that "Curse Technique: Construction" can put strain on the body of the caster as shown when their nose is bleeding and the fact that Yorozu could still be able to use "Domain Expansion" after creating the True Sphere shows just how powerful she is and both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than her.
I'll leave it up to you to decide which one is most likely true.
Counterargument, kamui doesnt open instantly, as shown when minato was able to react to being sucked into it and teleport before he was fully sucked in. Gojo could potentially do the same thing, especially with the six eyes.
This is bad for kakashi as its a very limited, nonspammable win condition, meanwhile gojo can teleport as much as he wants.
"Counterargument, kamui doesnt open instantly, as shown when minato was able to react to being sucked into it and teleport before he was fully sucked in. Gojo could potentially do the same thing"
Yes but its EXTREMELY fast way faster then anything Gojo has been shown reacting too even at his highest tier of scaling.
@@SRVarisAre we forgetting Gojo ran back to the school, grabbed Yuji, and brought him back all during the duration of a single attack? Gojo 100% has speed feats, if anything id argue Kakashi is lacking speed, especially when you compare him to actual fast people in his verse like Naruto, Sasuke, and Minato. This entire fight feels like it's basically winging on Kamui tbh.
Counterargument. Dude is comparing gojo to minato reaction speed. Also, Gojo's requirements for TP are strange because he never used it during the fight with sukuna.
@@KaneMeadowsGaming Kakashi is able to keep up with KCM2 Naruto and even had a 1v1 against obito, who was fighting KCM2 Naruto the whole time.
KCM2 Naruto = Obito > KCM Naruto > Raikage who moves faster or at lightspeed with his cloak active.
That kamui Raikiri is deadly
Genuinely curious: why can't gojo "teleport" away (ik it's not actual teleportation) before he gets sucked in just like how Minato teleported away from Obito when he was getting kamui'd during the nine tails invasion on the leaf village
Because he's not fast enough to react to kamui like that
Gojo doesn’t seem to do that in intense combat. I feel like him not doing it during the Sukuna fight means he def couldn’t in this one
Before watching I just want to guess kakashi gives gojo the sukuna treatment with his kamui. I’ll come back to this when I’m done watching. 😂
I wouldnt say its 9/10 times. Id say its more 7/10. Kakashi still can win pretty easy. But youre also under estimating gojo. Gojo has shown that he is very skilled in hand to hand combat without infinity activate (see vs miguel and vs sukuna). Gojo can also lace him punches with blue making them drastically stronger. There is also the fact that kakashi doesnt know what gojos abilities do. If he was able to pull off the same maximum output purple like he did to mahoraga to kill him, its over. I dont think kakashi is tanking a full power purple. Dont get me wrong, i still think kakashi wins more times than not. But dont sleep on the blue eyed king
Imagine being named after a number LMFAO
I like the idea that gojo could counter a domain expansion by just increasing the range and output of infinity 0.2 seconds before their domain lands.
If amplification is like wearing an empty domain and gojo says it takes a lot of output, and they are even described as being able to use a domains sure hit kill if they hit you with their tech then it can’t be that much weaker than a domain expansion, just far less versatile.
Gojo could have probably just strengthened the infinity barrier to cancel jogos domain. It’s a hard maybe but it could be possible
"They both have white hair"
7:30
Blackhole
possibly uzumaki
possibly granite blast
possibly love beam
truth sphere
if we go by pure output, these things should have more and should as a result just go through infinity
Also, you finally accept CTs are not turned off in domains?
Had to make a comment glazing gojo rq, he really stronger than people think, as there is a clear chain of power that puts him and sukuna at relativistic or SOL and Planetary even with a near planetary feat that people seem to miss as gojo breaks an anti gojo barrier meant to test how long they could keep gojo away, a barrier that should be relative to the one meant to contain an earth mass black hole temporarily.
Also while kenjaku does cancel her tech with an anti tech, it would still need relative power to completely nullify the black hole for those 6 seconds. Like if you put 1 anti particle against 100 particles, it still only annihilates 1 not all 100.
His 200% hollow purple only destroyed part of a city what are you on about.
“Clear chain of power that puts them at solar system and planetary” yea your smoking that nut pack 🫵
@@Hcjeiwjcap is different than dp, just because a character is able to hurt someone who can tank a star exploding doesn't mean the person who hurt them can also blow up a star.
@@thyentity6295 Yeah so hollow purple still only city.
Nobody ever talks about Hokage Kakashi when they talk about this match up. I honestly feel that’s a more entertaining match up
The major problem is unless you think Kakashi can punch through infinity due to being stronger its not interesting because Gojo wins with no difficulty(As long as he NEVER uses a domain because Hokage Kakashi would just dodge it)
@@SRVaris What would gojo even have to kill kakashi though? Hokage kakashi is dead ass stronger then war arc kakashi in the light novels, he just doesn't have kamui, kakashi would dodge all of his attacks, like even if you would argue he would just outlast kakashi (Which hokage kakashi has hella stamina so i mean, it wouldn't be easy.) it definitly isn't with NO difficulty, gojo has to fight him for bare minimum DAYS, which gojo can do, he has six eyes after all, but he's gonna be tired as shit.
@@dattos140 Literally his only way to kill Kakashi is to outlast him the only reason I say no difficulty is because Gojo will never be in danger of being harmed throughout the fight
@@SRVaris Yeah but that seems more like a stalemate then a no diff, i mean, kakashi wouldn't really have to try either, bro would just be reading a book while dodging the occasional purple or something.
Please do a video of Who would win Sonic Post Frontiers or Shadow Doom Powers Post Forces
I would think Six Eyes would allow Gojo to know he hit a substitution and also to see Kakashi building up chakra so he’d be more on the defense. Six Eyes and is great in battles because they would allow one’s perception to be expanded almost like Byakugan
this was always obvious. kakashi outscales gojo in every stat and on top of that he basically has the wcs but if it actually made sense and didn’t require limited conditions to use. kakashi unironically solo's all of jjk.
Arent we overating Kamui here, Kamui has never been successfully used to one shot someone in the entire Naruto Anime
Not really. Kamui doesn't one shot anyone because the narrative doesn't want him to. When he does try for the one shot something always prevents him. With Deidara it was lack of skill on his part. With Kakuzu and Hidan he was holding off so Shikamaru and then Naruto could shine. With Pain he was more focused on info gathering because at that point they knew the bodies were puppets. He wasn't gonna try to one shot Sasuke. And after that Obito is used to stop him. So it's not that Kamui can't one shot anyone but that story doesn't want it to.
I can see why gojo's becoming the new character that everyone pits their matchups against. He's the new gen powerhouse anime character who, on paper, possesses a space time ability that essentially makes him untouchable by anything he comes up against, sparking up debate on whether X character can bypass infinity with X factor. I think Gege accidentally created a walking engagement farmer 🫠
Which she somehow hates lol
Normies and anime onlys did that. People’s tall long armed white haired king with blue eyes can beat anyone.
Gojo stops at anything planetary+ usually. Cause most characters above that have some kind of ability that bypasses space time or warps space. So he only goes so far
@@LuciferArc1where did you get planetary from?💀
I wouldn't say planetary tbh and I like gojo and honestly believe he could beat kakashi@@LuciferArc1
Gojo would have to face Naruto Bridge arc Kakashi to win this.
Also I know it’s because the mangaka hadn’t thought of Kamui back then, but I wonder if Kakashi had used it in the past and as teen/ young adult Kakashi he knocked himself out from exhaustion for probably weeks and that’s why he settles for keeping the headband on to avoid accidentally using mangekyo, not just the consistent chakra drain from the Sharingan.
Can we do one without sharingan Or vs a more current Kakashi? We understand Kamui, can we elaborate on the other options?
Keep being great!
Bros name is a number LMFAO
Can you do yami vs gojo next.
I agree with the argument that infinity can be overpowered. I just don't think it can be done with just anything though. I think it has to be overpowered by anothers curse energy and not just any form of energy.
Kakashi takes this easy. Kamui gets through infinity like a hot knife through butter.
Ice cold pfp king
You saying the domains sure hit doesn’t spawn on you doesn’t make any sense, it literally does spawn. You mentioned Dagon shikigami but he summons the shikigami and then uses them as the guranteed hit. If the guranteed hit doesn’t spawn on you then the term “sure hit” would be useless as u can dodge it. Jogo was even testing the waters behe used his sure hit on Gojo too. And it’s the same with yorozu: she summoned the perfect sphere, deployed her domain and was about to use it as the sure hit but she was confused why Sukuna didn’t deploy his
Well this doesn't respond to seeing Sukuna's slashes literally travel to Gojo's domain barrier. It doesn't spawn on the person and it can be a guaranteed hit because of speed or like in Mahito's case you're just always in the palm of his hand.
@@OkRoomer123- we quite literally see dragon shikigami be behind him before they go towards naobito,nanami,and maki same with toji there shown swimming up to him
Sure hit is more like they attack immediately and hone in on the chars with it being like a heat seeking missile
@@sixfromtokyo I see them as like attacks that are faster than the char themselves who use the domain with it honing on the target
With no matter where they are in the domain they can't hide from it
With being most of the time constant attacks that happens every few seconds while the user can attack themselves or keep their distance
I never thought people where thinking sure hits are attacks that just spawns on the target unless dagon shikigami being shown swimming from behind him to charging at the trio was only in the anime
@@sixfromtokyo I don’t think u understand what Sukuna did to counter Gojo’s condensed barrier. Sukuna turned his sure hit off in unlimited void and target the barrier of it in the real world and everything around it, if we can see the slashes attacking the barrier doesn’t refute what I said. And no speed doesn’t play a factor as it’s guranteed to hit the target, said by hit characters and narrator multiple times. And Dagon and Yorozu are perfect examples. The summon what they’re gonna use as a sure hit like the aforementioned shikigami and perfect sphere and then use it as a sure hit hence the name.
@@OkRoomer123- what you can quite literally see dagon shikigami being behind dagon before charging at the trio if they literally spawn on the target why would they be where dagon was
Change your pfp back immediately it’s too iconic
What was his old pfp?
14:41 Never Underestimate The Power Of The LOG 😂😂😂😂
I wonder if infinity will even work in another verse with different physics because if not hes cooked
It's crazy how Sukuna is the one that killed Gojo and is treated as the strongest in the verse but the only one worth talking about when it comes to cross-verse battles is Gojo because everyone knows Sukuna isn't doing shit
Well yeah, sukuna is stronger, but gojo has better hax, if gojo and sukuna had the same curse technique, sukuna would just wash him, the only reason gojo got so far against sukuna is that infinity is just a better technique then shrine, all shrine does is cut and cook shit, infinity brings mathmatical concepts into reality.
Like, jotaro from part 3 has a stronger stand then fugo from part 5 right? But purple haze has a fucking virus that can kill ANYTHING in 30 seconds, despite star platinum being faster, stronger, and more precise in every way, star platinum couldn't kill goku, but if purple haze's virus infects goku? He literally just dies, we all know goku ain't immune to virus's or poisons, so yeah, if he just stood there and got hit by purple haze, the best he can get is a tie, cause he would die to the virus eventually, but that doesn't mean fugo is stronger than jotaro, it just means the fugo has a really busted abillty, thats better in versus matches, but jotaro would be better against someone who's immune to virus's, cause they would be immune to purple haze.
@@dattos140 If Gojo and Sukuna had the same Cursed Technique Sukuna would get washed because he doesn't have the Six Eyes
@@moronicgenius8971 No? Unless it was limitless, all the six eyes does is reduce curse energy expendage, and sukuna has like, A SHIT TON of cursed energy, do you need to reread the gauntlet sukuna went through? He never even recovered cursed energy at all through all of that shit, even when he got his heien era body back, dude didn't get any cursed energy back., and he was still spamming all of his moves like it was nothing.
But if they were both using limitless, then yeah, cause without the six eyes, you can't really use limitless, but any other one? On god, sukuna still wins that shit, i swear running out of cursed energy isn't a problem for EITHER of them.
@dattos140 No I was talking about Limitless. I've read JJK twice and I'm well aware that neither of them would bottom out during a fight considering Sukuna has over twice as much CE as Yuta with better refinement than everybody but Gojo who has the Six Eyes. Idk where you got this idea that Gojo would get washed from though. We've seen that even when his technique is burnt out and he's using RCT while getting hit with repeated cleaves from Malevolent Shrine and fighting with Sukuna he was still able to keep up with him. Their stats are basically indistinguishable with any difference in skill most likely going to Gojo rather than Sukuna. The only advantages Sukuna has over Gojo that would give him the win would be his extra arms and mouth and his open barrier Domain. Sukuna's Open Barrier Domain Expansion was arguably a more important advantage than him having the Ten Shadows and Mahoraga in their fight. If Gojo had the same thing or knew about the ability beforehand the fight would've ended before Sukuna even got the chance to summon Mahoraga.
Obviously what makes Gojo so much more capable in a cross-verse battle than Sukuna is his hax, but I wouldn't call that the same as the difference between Fugo and Jotaro where Fugo is very clearly a weaker combatant in basically every area. Gojo ended up split in half on the floor in front of Sukuna and yet when you actually look at what the two of them are capable of there's nothing that makes Sukuna more powerful or outright "stronger" than Gojo, he just has his Open Barrier Domain which is only a useful tool inside of the verse of JJK since it can destroy other Domains from the outside.
He isn’t treated as such, he is. The fact that Gojo even lost with abilities that utterly eclipse the rest of the cast is an unfathomable L. Just speaks for Sukuna even more
Can you elaborate on the logic aspect of the tortuise and the haire paradox
Nice Starro Pfp
All kakashi has to do his show gojo Jairiya make out tactics
Six would you ever consider doing Anime and Comics crossover videos ?
I don't think Gojo beats Kakashi even if Kakashi couldn't bypass Limitless. It would just be a stall out.
Why people debating about this it already confirmed by gege himself that kakashi would beat gojo
@@Nathan-s3e7ythats an invalid point, just because author says someone could beat him in an older version of said character before they gave him massive buffs doesn't apply to him now. Same logic goes for the creator of invincible saying omni man could beat superman, I guess omni beats superman because the creator of invincible says so. An author saying something related to something outside there version doesn't make there statement valid, there statement is only valid if it's related to stuff inside there verse that isn't contradicted by statements within the series or past statements by said author, it's like if gege said gojo can now beat Kakashi I guess that means gojo beats Kakashi, an opinion isn't a fact.
@thyentity6295 First off, it gege known and has a full understanding of gojo power and has not gave any thing new in the surkna fight , so unlike omni beating Superman statement he saying that gojo would lose against kakashi
@thyentity6295 also created a creator statement that states that gojo lose, then ye it does mean it fact
@Nathan-s3e7y when gege made that statement gojo wasn't as strong as he was now, also gege isn't a powerscaler and barley understands everything in his series as he barley understands how infinity works as he needs actual mathematicians to do the math for him. Gojo isn't weaker or stronger just because the author of jjk states so, it's only true if he actually took the time to scale both characters and used logic to try and explain why gojo loses. Simply saying my character wins or losses because I think so without explaining why or knowing why makes there opinion irrelevant as it's only an opinion not a fact.
Kamui>World Cleave
Sleeping Kakashi > Full Powere Sukuna
Sukuna with infinity bypass > Gojo
end of discussion
Sukuna full power wouldn't beat gojo without mahoraga. Strict 1v1 gojo wins mid - high diff.
@coolme241 I said Sukuna with infinity bypass, meaning with mahoraga, only thing holding Sukuna back is infinity, without it gojo would of lost before the first domain clash
Kakashi: kamui
Gojo: GAH
Obito: so what was it like fighting the copy ninja?
8:16 AINT NO WAY GOJO WAS INSPIRED BY TONBO TOBITAKE 😭😂😂😂 thats crazy thanks for adding yo my fun facts
aint this a reupload