New Saddlebags for Adventure Riders
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- It might be an option for small and big adventure motorcycles.
In this video, I will show you the new saddlebags from the Polish company 21 Brothers. I used their bags for many years and I am more than happy to promote them to each and every one of you.
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These bags are freaking awesome for traveling. I ordered one a year ago because of Pavlin. Used it for a (TET) adventure trough Netherlands Germany and Switserland and its all you need. Lots of space, very strong and durable(did some crashing) and doesnt move an inch.
Thanks again Pavlin and 21Brothers.
Great to hear!
That is well designed, well made kit.
The thing with this company is that it offers really good value, too. Very good prices.
And 20 bucks is enough to feed me for a day on the road. Not to be sniffed at.
Good one, thanks for sharing.
Happy travels 👍
Couldn't agree more!
Ordered mine 25L, will receive them next week.
As for the pockets and your cencern about rain etc. If you tighten it there should be no problem.
Also the waterproof pockets have a feature! you can use one to wash your clothes and second to rinse them! so I would not give this up ;)
Enjoy it!
I've also switched from tank bags and hard case panniers to a saddle bag. It's way more convenient and a lot cheaper. No more fiddling around getting the tank bag off when refueling etc. And you can get a saddle bag as big as two panniers plus tank bag.
Good!
Hello Pavlin. Great Video as always - I got the Mosko Moto Reckless 40, they have the opening at the bottom. I think its really important because if it always stays wet, it will smell and become dirty
Thanks for your tip with your Link, i will order the regular 21 Brothers 20 L Duffle bag and the small Enduro Tankbag, that's what I still miss and the prices are great. Thank you for showing us the brand and making it more known.
My pleasure!
I received my Pockets today and its seems they listened to your advice Pavlin, my set has holes at bottom of the Pockets so that the water can escape, if any will get in.
Great to hear that!
I have a 10L bag from 21Brothers, the quailty is excellent and can take a beating. Completely waterproof with many options to attach it to your motorcycle. More than half the price too compared to other brands!
Good!
Just bought the 21 Brothers Rogal bags for my Beta Alp 200. Nice people. Delivery tomorrow. Looking forward to the first ride.
Cheers, Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
Have fun!
Once again an excellent review and video, Thank you. I will look up the product manufacture now and review more for a possible purchase.
Great Thanks again!
Any time!
Soft cases gives the flexibility advantage over the hard boxes, Thanks for the honest review
Yes it does!
I use Tourmaster Cortech saddle bags. They have a neoprene backing, which helps not scratch the paint and prevents movement. They also have clips to lock a tail bag. However, they are not water proof, so I pack My items in waterproof bags. They also have heat shield material on the bottoms.
Thank you for your videos
Thanks for watching!
I already have 21 brothers soft luggage
I can highly recommend 👌
Very helpful company
Thanks for sharing!
First I saw that type of system was the Mosko Moto. Now I see several companies copied it. I was thinking of trying out the Tusk rackLess set up for my new bike
Well...it is almost impossible to design something that is not already made from someone.
@@motorcycleadventures yes true sorry if I made that sound like a bad thing that wasn't my intention. Great review !! I do want to try this style of system next
@@motorcycleadventures mi more was saying it must be a good system because it is being copied
Nice versatile solution, I already saw on their website but know better understand the concept. Great video, but I think will go for the older one piece version you have. I think it’s just easier to take of and on completely.
Glad it was helpful!
Ok Pavlin, you’ve convinced me, i’ve just ordered one of those. Hopefully they put some holes in the bottom of the pockets, it really is a design flow .
They did it already. Your bag will have holes.
Your idea about the holes at athe bottom of the bags is very good, Pavlin. I had a small lake at the bottom of my Ortliebs, which are the same principle.
Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
Thanks for sharing, Günter!
Great review! It´s always valuable to hear your opinion about the hardware of your motorcycle travels.
Though I think that a saddlebag should have a lid that covers from rain and dust to get inside the bag. You said it well yourself!
The inner bags are waterproof, but the big pocket is what I was talking about. Thanks for taking the time, Ken!
I just ordered this bag system from them. I don't have an enduro bike, but I don't like hard panniers at all. On one of my bikes I have hard panniers and they are very limiting for longer trips. Now to see if the Pockets system will work better for my second bike. I don't have a rack on that one, so hopefully it will serve me well on both bikes :) Thanks for showing the system to us as on their webpage I had some questions how things look and set up.
Glad to help!
soft luggage is so so sweet...hit my shins enuff on the hard ones...plus I didn't care for the racks..made bike look goofy without luggage on..
I agree.
Definitively a very good option ! Thanks for sharing Pavlin.
You are welcome!
That reminds me very much of MoskoMoto Reckless...
Only their "beaver tail" has not been copied
It is what it is!
These look great, just what I need, but looking on their website it appears 21 Bros no longer make them with the removable dry bags.
Hi Pavlin, maybe a good Idea to put a heater protection on the exhaust to prevent a melting saddlebag even if the bag doesn't touch the exhaust.
Keep well Pavlin
If you mount it properly you don't need it.
@@motorcycleadventures i'm not convinced, when you go for offroad the bag can move a little bit but enough to be burn.when the straps are wet they can untide a little bit. This is just my opinion. I've the same bike with the same configuration and happy to have the protection, that cost peanuts and may save you trip
Great bags! mine also came with an opening on the Botton so the water can escape! But after around 7k km the dry bags are not so dry anymore, they started leaking! need to pack small dry bags inside, or replace them for two big after market Dry Bags! Should also work fine.
Good to know!
Nice system but they should have made a small reinforced hole in the bottom of the outer bags, to let water out that has gotten in overnight when the innerbags are in your tent.
It is corrected already.
@@motorcycleadventures I'll buy them.
Thank you for the video. It would be better that the connection strap (velcro) goes under the seat in order to allow the passenger sit properly without those buckes at his/her bottom 😉
Yes, you are right!
the buckles on the joining piece are an option when you order - if you carry a passenger as a priority you could chose not to have the buckles (which would be useless to you under the seat anyway)
I ordered Rogal XL be because of Pavlin. Unfortunately the bag started leaking. I was back and forth with the company for 6 months. At the end they made me a new one with an extra flap on the top. I payed for the flap, delivery and extra bag I ordered. The final result was the Rogal was not stitched well and the other new bag started falling apart after just one short trip.
I wish good luck to 21 Brothers with this product but no more 21 Brothers for me.
Sorry to hear that and honestly I am surprised! As you know, I use my bag a lot and have no complains at all. It even survived the crash accident that I have in Turkey with a minimum damages.
@@motorcycleadventures it could be just my bad luck….But this is the reality for me.
" This madness needs to stop" , this sounds familiar 2 me .Well .... I ordered the Pocket 2.0. and I'm afraid this is not the end of the madnes 😁. But I promise , would try hard to follow your advice. Thanks Pavel 😉
Any time!
Благодаря за това видео! Мисля да заложа на този модел вместо странични куфари! 3 пъти по-евтино и по-практично.
Thank you for this video! I think to buy these soft luggage bags instead of hard cases for my bike. It looks that it's 3 times cheaper and even more practical than the hardcases.
Моля! Успех с пътешествията!
cheers Pavka, favorite drink St'Agnes + favourite show - lasy weekend afternoon can't get better :)
Enjoy!
Hi Pavin just found ur clip, thanks.
Seems like a good option for me. I want to have my backpack on top that I can take with me when I go away from the bike. Thx.
Right on!
i use recycleable grocery bags + straps, and bungee cords, but would go true bags if could afford. but bags are the way to go.
Any bag will do the job but some just do it much better!
Thanks for good honest review. I have never heard of this brand before in Australia . Maybe not avaliable in Australia? If you know where best place to buy pls let me know
Not that I know of. Thanks for taking the time!
Hello, greetings from Spain. I like 21 brothers products and I hesitate between the Rogal bag and this Pocket 2. In your opinion, which is more practical? I think the Rogal is more difficult to keep things organized, on the other hand, the Pocket is a bit more annoying to take off, put on the bike and carry with you. The motorcycle where it would be installed is a Triumph Scrambler without side panels.
I like the more the Rogal
Your presentation great like always
Thanks a lot!
This is the way
Cool!
I have these on order and it is great to get early sight of how they fit and adjust - thank you.
Having seen the product more closely in your video than in the advertising images I have three concerns… 1. exhaust heat damage - easily addressed, 2. rain collection in the Pockets - time will tell how much of an issue that is and how easily managed, 3. Using the D rings to attach extra luggage across the seat - it looks like both the left and right set of attachment points are on the left Pocket flap, and my concern here is how the velcro connecting the Pockets will handle that when I ride rough surfaces.
How would you fix exhaust heat damage ?
Very good video!
I Would like to see How the Rogal bag and this rackless system can be fitted on a t7 so you can carry a passenger.
I believe that is very important for those incl me, who once in a while camping with kids, or wife/husband or just a friend.
Is it even possible to fit two up on a T7 with this kind of setup?
I belive that a rear Top luggage rack is to be used so you can place the bag far back.
Would love to see a video on that.
Best regards Ola 🇸🇪
It is possible, with a slim passenger.
Hi Pavlin, good video, I would mount it under the seat to keep an even cleaner set up just like Italian company Amphibious. Check them out!
Great idea!
Just bought a full set..😊
Good!
Received mine today. The design has changed and the bag is not removable now. So you are not able to just take the bag inside without purchasing a bag to go inside the bag. It will still work for my needs but is not as ideal as this style imo.
Thanks for the info!
where is the video about your saddlebag ? I can not find
You may have already talked about this topic, but have you ever considered driving a Dakar Rally?
I know it's very expensive, but I believe that a person with your experience could easily find sponsors.
And what are your thoughts about Dakar Rally?
Pozdrav iz Beograda.
Yes I thought about it in the past, but it requires much more money, experience and sponsors that I have. With the same amount of money I can see the whole world and this is exactly what I plan to do.
Hello Pavlin,
thank you very much for this presentation. I do ride a T700 as well, but without a rack. What might the solution to fix it at the back?
You mentioned that you will do some long term testing, what is your impression?
Thanks for your reports
It is very good option for many, but I still prefer the horse shoe bag.
Hi Pavlin, they look great. One doubt I have is that the 4 attachment clips in the velcro part would be very uncomfortable for a pillion rider - am I wrong? Maybe they are detachable?
Yes, correct, but you can mount them under the seat.
These bags seem good, but won't this type touch the exchaust and melt/catch fire - if you don't have a luggage-rack at the bike?
No they won't. You can adjust it from the straps.
Hi, have you received any feedback regarding installing these to a R1200GS?
These bags are cheap, but no drain holes?
It sounds like the manufacturer designs the bags on the computer, tests strictly during dry weather, and then sells the inadequately tested product to Joe Public.
Hopefully for buyers, they develop a leak to let the water out, and the design error will fix itself.
The wholes will be corrected.
Hi Pavlin ,is this one bether dan the horseshoe bag ?
I prefer the horseshoe
What do you think guys? Possible to use those bags on Tenere and have a passenger for a longer ride?
Only the time will show us.
@@motorcycleadventures it does not really look like it offers much comfort for the as*… maybe put something over?
You can mount it under the seat.
Hi I want to know if it will fit good my xt660z ? I dont have protection for the exhaust. And do you think the Rogal XL is a best option , I saw you have the Rogal XL for many years. Do you think this one is a better option ? Thanks
Rogal xl is better.
@@motorcycleadventures I am considering to get this for my T7. Can you share why you prefer the Rogal XL over the pocket 2.0? The pocket seems more practical at first sight. Thanks
Looks to be simple pockets with dry bags. Buckling a duffel on top of the Velcro belt will tear everything off. Wouldn’t trust this, imho.
Fair enough!
The bags look great and I'm interested in them for my Aprilia Tuareg 660 which is setup similar to the Tenere 700 in terms of exhaust pipe location. While looking at them mount on the Tenere it appears obvious that the right side bag near the exhaust doesn't have enough clearance to not burn the bottom of the bag on that side. Do you know if they have smaller bags for the Tenere/Tuareg exhaust locations that will surely get the clearance needed on that right side?
It won't touch the exhaust if you just tight it a bit more.
@@motorcycleadventures Thank you that's good to know because maybe these will work with my Tuareg then. Great Video!
Hi Inner bag for 25 l is 50x27x18cm, so it is 24.3 l. How much staf you an back in it ? I have wolfmans softbags which is 60x 30x 23 cm, as you can see its clearly bugger, and I can fill it up only about 18 to 19 l. You have to roll the bag close too. Can you test the real volume for us. You can do it for 30 l version if its easyer for you , thankk you, geat videos !
Thanks for taking the time!
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I just bought givi gravel 15l x 2 - let's se how they works for me. 💪👌
Sounds good!
Can you have things in the right side additional pocket on the T7, or does it touch the exhaust? It seems like it would be a close call if you for example put a 1.5 liter water bottle in it? Is this the 30 or 25 liter version? Or is the ”base” the same in both cases?
You can have it without any problem if you just tight the top straps and lift the bag a bit more.
Interesting system, I saw on the 890 it rested against the exhaust and I think the same would happen on my bike. Do you know if there is any kind of heat shielding on the bag to protect it in this scenario?
Not with this system, but you can tight it more and prevent it.
21 Brothers also offer an exhaust shield. They call it Exhaust Manifold Distance. You could get one for ease of mind.
Nice infomercial...
Glad you think so!
its a pity that it is all water under the bridge as the WEF does not want as to have our own transport and so petrol will be 5 euro or more in a couple off years. But otherwise great bags!
I am not here to fix the world's problems!
Any other options other than sponsor? Have a different bike and don't like loop bags... I prefer roll top waterproof bags
Not from this company but you can find plenty in Internet.
I was fixed on buying a Rogal, but now this came out... Whats your opinion on rogal vs this one pavlin? isnt this design more practical? thanks in advance!
Both are good. I prefer Rogal.
Shame there's no supplier in UK. Import duty 😭
It is what it is!
Interesting. But does it not melt touching a hot exhaust?
If you mount it properly, it does not touch the exhaust.
Do these guys still trade? I can't reach their website.
21brothers.eu/
Can you move the angle.of the bags like in the Tusk and Mosko bags system?!
No!
where we can buy？
I am a chinese living guangzhou of china
What is the coupon code ? if I write
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There is no coupon, just tell them.
Hello, thank you for the video. What is the exact mention that must be entered to benefit from the 5%. Because I put the name of your channel and it does not work. thanks again
Ask them with e-mail.
@@motorcycleadventures merci
Hello! Are these 25 or 30 liter bags?
30 l each
Would you recommend for a tenere 660 z ?
Thanks
Yes, any bike!
Hi Pavlin,
After your review with the saddle, I ordered one. Done my payment via PayPal.
Do you have a contact phone number, because they did not reply with the shipment details.
I'm the guy who introduced Berlin to at night 4 years ago.
Many thanks,
Adrian
H Adrian! No I do not have a number, but I am sure that they will confirm the shipping very soon.
How did you get all of those trophies?
They are not mine. Belong to my mechanic and friend, Plamen. He is one of the best Enduro riders in Bulgaria.
is it same as mosko moto design
But much cheaper!
Здравей Павлин,колко струва пълна окомплектовка,че нещо не мога да разбера какво трябва да се поръча.
2 x 30l + 2 x задни джобове 227 евро.
has anyone try it on BMW gs 1200 lc 2015?? If is can he contact me. i want to see how it looks like and if is any problem... :D thanks
What are the trophies for?
They are not mine. They belongs to my mechanic, Plamen. He is one of the best enduro riders in Bulgaria.
Does this company sale to 🇮🇳
Ask them.
Hi there, can you give me the address of your service guy in Varna please? I have 2 bikes, a Kawasaki ZRX 1100 and a Husqvarna 690 Enduro. Does he speak English?
Hi Frank, the address you can find here: rtw-adventures.com/motorcycle-mechanic-in-varna-1.html He understand and speak a little bit but if you say when you will be there I might come to help.
@@motorcycleadventures many tx Pavlin. I will tell him in a few weeks as I am actually in Switzerland. As soon as it is warmer I come back to Varna. My ZRX needs Valve check. Would be great to get to know you. Till soon
This would be great sometimes I have to pay taxi fare because no place for luggage and pillion
Hmmm, interesting!
Soft saddle bag wont be safe from city when parking it will be easily stole belongings inside you wont go inside an establish or a mall without carrieng it you will always keep an eye on it. If its lock it open by a simple knife
I have thousands of km with soft bags and never got any problems.
boxes even look dump, and inflexiable.
I agree!
wery nice. Aj mas go beck tu may Cantry end biu dhis. Whe is the Schop? Jebana godka naszych wrogow. Kurwa, Pierinie
Cool!
Can I borrow your bike?😗
No you cannot!
bags? Rather drive in to wall with bags in front than hard boxes!
Absolutely!
Yeah that is a cheap rip-off of the Mosko Motto reckless system.
Economical but no thanks to straps hanging, flapping & having to fiddle with!
No need, you can hide it once they are tightened.
Not really ‘real time’ when you have help 😉
Okay, it would be one minute longer.
the company wehn make some things for bikes need to thing ...not people buy and then found the problems...it looks cheap..
You can buy Mosko bags, 3 times expensive.
@@motorcycleadventures i have allready with 50 euro from alliexpress not good quality but for 50 euro can make the travel