A Poor Mans Arri - Panasonic BS1H
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- I recently bought the BS1H and in the run-up realized nobody has made a video just saying what the camera is and how good it is. So here's me rambling about the Panasonic BS1H.
Want to know how it's rigged check out my video here: • Rigging The BS1H - Pan...
BS1H: amzn.to/3oMDK23
What the video is shot on (Panasonic S5): amzn.to/43jAGt8
Apologies for the peaking, atleast you can hear me, just turn your volume down x.
*no hate to millennials (I am one) just addressing all the random complaints people complain about but its a cinema camera, it is what is.
Hello all, thanks for the love once again, I've now made an updated video, as Its been more than a year with the camera and thought it'd be good to show you what else it's done! ua-cam.com/video/vLpNCN6qV4E/v-deo.htmlsi=hZR3Fq_MhSr5hjEC
You have now inspired me to make more videos for/about my BS1H. I agree, it is a very underrated camera. Good on ya.
Hey, this was an awesome review. Great title! I personally have the BGH1. Love the form factor, and it looks more professional than the highbred cameras. I know it has drawbacks, but what can you expect for the price point. I personally think the power to get most out of a sensor is what’s put in front of the lens. For example, location, lighting, sound and talent. If you have that in place this camera will take your imagery further
S1H has been my favorite camera for 3 years. Prefer the images to my FX6 plus IBIS makes it perfect for run n gun.
Dynamic range scores are best in class.
Panasonic are underrated 🙏
Same. Recently got to use the Fx6 and I was surprised that I preferred the image of my S5.
You instantly got a like from me for using a fork for a mic stick hahaha!
Mic stick is golden! Love it
Yesss! I literally bought a BS1H and finished rigging it out recently. There’s also few videos on yt with it I’ve noticed. Keen to see more. Subscribed
Honestly it’s a beautiful piece of kit! I’ve done a rigging video so you can see how I do it! Let me know what else you want to see I’m trying to make a content list to build up what to make next 🙏 thanks so much for the love
@@samebdonfilm Yeah sure! I also watched that one. Really in depth explanation cause I’ve also been looking for a v-mount solution and found it in that video.
I’d be keen to see a video on grading the footage or your general workflow. I also heard the BS1H doesn’t record braw for open gate on black magic assist 12g?
@@carlkarama I'll add that to the list! - Open gate wise I'm pretty sure you can shoot as such but I will double check! - Working on finding a 3" sdi monitor I can use if I wanted to shoot to a recorder so I can send the menu to go out via SDI. I'll have an investigation! I'm going onto a feature next week DOP'ing with it so I'm sure I'll discover many things!
Great video man! Love seeing more Bs1h users. My setup (corporate interviews/brand stories with some documentary work) is a Bs1h & s1h with a gh6 for b roll or handheld work. Love lumix! Keep creating and posting!
Me want fork Mic, lovely little video mate!
I’ll post one to you, but thank you very much
Great Video man. Keep it up.
Love the images you’re getting. Top work man 👍 I find that fork mic mildly distressing tho 😅
Thank you 🙏 the fork mic is just something we all have to live with
I’m sticking with the S1H. If the NS1H had fixed output latency, I’d have switched, but it’s bad on both cameras, and still bad on the S5II (and S5IIX). REALLY hoping Panasonic fixes that on their next box camera
I'll be totally honest there's no latency I've noticed so far that would be a worry, its the same as the URSA Mini Pro G2 so realistically to me isn't an issue. - cameras are brill but if you need it to be instant then I do not blame you! Works well for me :)
@@samebdonfilm The Panasonic cameras baseline at 7-9 frames of delay at the port. That stacked with wireless can put things near half a second of delay. If we’re comparing to an Alexa (which I’m fine with, they’re shockingly good cameras otherwise,) that makes pulling focus as a 1ST AC extremely difficult. By the time a subject has shifted, you’re already behind and out.
@@ForestCinema oh crazy! Thanks for sharing, gonna have to investigate that with the feature coming!
Yep. I never use external monitors unless I shoot tripod shots only. If a shoot is handheld and has any whip pans I ditch the external monitors instantly.
Good looking rig! Most BS1H rigs I’ve seen are not pretty. Love your compactness and wire management. What’s your V-Mount battery setup? Does that top plate interfere with the buttons? Would love a rig breakdown if you could provide me with one :)
Video coming soon! I basically got two cheese plates going from the smallrig cage then slapped a v lock plate on the back one. Nitze does the best compact one by far. Then you need a d tap fs5 power cable as they all have the same socket from there it’s just what handle etc buttons aren’t covered so it’s grand
Hi Jakob! Here's the breakdown: ua-cam.com/video/o7QNIhDCTJ0/v-deo.html
It’s no more a poor man’s Arri than your forkrophone is a poor man’s Neumann M 49 V. That said, the best camera, is the one you have, and from your brief clips it looks like you are putting that camera to good use. So good on you!
It's the fork mic extension for me LMFAOOOOOO
How's the HDMI lag/latency? looking into getting one of these, but worried about the latency. Is SDI better for this (no lag/latency) and do you get camera menus through SDI? Not much info on this camera anywhere :(
Hi Dennis,
HDMI is pretty spot on, some lag through SDI. If you are sending wireless that way, when it comes to playback the sdi shuts off and you can only playback via HDMI (daft coding that is) but I found if using for commercial gigs HDMI is best then that's all sorted, you can get menus through SDI but once again SDI turns off if you hit playback so you have to go back into settings on hdmi to change it. also if you are shooting raw to a monitor you get a clean feed by HDMI so can't access the menus (also daft, but 422 10Bit is actually phenomenal). Its a Alexa Mini LF without the mental price tags but a few puzzle pieces to solve, I love it and it's honestly been amazing.
@@samebdonfilm Awesome, that's what it seems like. Some problems to solve for a great image is not a huge problem for me. You still highly recommend?
@@filmerdennis I can for sure Highly recommend it, I think with having the option to go prores raw to, you can't complain. End of the day if something Huge comes in with a massive budget you'll be renting anyway but when a camera can output what the BS1H can you are perfect for any scenario!
The transmiter/mic on a fork...I get the light heartness of it, it's cute. But makes me cringe as an audio guy. 😄
Thought that was Matt Damon from 1997 @ 1:19
Had to de-age him
Beautiful images. I have the S5 myself and loved the bgh1, so i'm thinking about picking up one of the BS1H mainly for the form factor (*cough* client optics *cough*). The only thing that kills it for me is the lack of an on-camera monitor, which I wouldn't miss if I could transmit the menu over HDMI when shooting raw. Have you felt like that's hindered you at all?
Thank you! And I’ve found that 10 Bit 422 internal has been more than enough for me so far, and after shooting with the S5 it’s just become what I’m used to, obviously it’s great to have Raw but if I’m completely honest the dynamic range and the amount of data captured in the internal recording is more than enough for me most of the time :) most projects I go on want it shot in 422 as well so means life’s pretty chill - it will also shoot in AVC-I (I believe it’s that) which is what Netflix needs if filming for them. So that’s another lil comfort blanket. Hope this all helps!
hahha nice review! enjoyed it
Have you tried using the 6k open gate yet? Does it look okay?
It’s honestly gorgeous! It’s still got loads of dexterity in the image too but I’m honestly so happy with it
@@samebdonfilm
Awesome, I'm planning on getting an S1H or BS1H and I'm planning on getting an anamorphic lens, maybe a Greatjoy. Have you had experience with Open Gate anamorphic?
I wanted one for the longest time but the body was so expensive so I got a z cam instead and love it.
I always found the z cams to be great but I did own an M4 and it’s noise floor was horrific, had to over expose a lot to make sure it was clean. I do like what they are doing and the F6 looks great but I’ll be honest I do prefer the BS1Hs image between the two but glad you are loving it!
@@samebdonfilm yes, shooting in z log means you cant underexpose, you have to overexpose by 2-3 stops and the camera allows you to upload luts so you can monitor it properly, it threw me off at first but now i understand it, im not sure about now but older Sony cine cams were the same way. IMO Panasonic's colors are fine and its faster for quick turnaround times compared to other cameras like Blackmagic and Z cam. I used to use an S1H and I never had to color grade anything.
@@kurencee always great! Surprised on not grading anything I always have to, guess it’s dependent on your deliverable! Rec709 does look lovely but I definitely enjoy personalising each film for its look etc. so definitely agree!
Does it have the same sensor as the Panasonic S1H
It does indeed! The S5, S1H & S5II/X all have the same just different horsepower in each :)
Hi All! Thanks for the love! A few people have asked for a rig breakdown, that can now be found here: ua-cam.com/video/o7QNIhDCTJ0/v-deo.html
Please stop using your mic like that, it's really distracting visually and sound level wise. I stopped watching after 1 minute...
Just a bit of fun, hope you enjoyed the first minute :)
personally loved it. mebbe tie a giant yellow sponge or scrub daddy just to clean up the pops. ;)
@@nickalot What a shout, thank you for the inspo
Nice. Just one con from what I can tell. It's not an FX3
Each to their own ;)
@@samebdonfilm better image than an FX3 imo, aside from rolling shutter which is a bummer.
@@renaissancedigital5730 completely agree with you 🙏
@@renaissancedigital5730 you’re on a windup pal
sbscrbd for fork mic.
Want to see my most recent short film? Entirely shot on the BS1H: ua-cam.com/video/-JE4CJwdT1o/v-deo.htmlsi=64UKfnahMRf_1Zx7
Still almost 3 grand just for the body.
Agreed but the price has fluctuated dramatically I bought mine at £2600 new, but Amazon two days later had it at £1800 so it’s just whenever Panasonic does a deal I’d snag one up then. End of the day it’s still cheaper than most others on the market and I’m aiming to do a comparison between the BS1H and an ARRI soon so will be interesting to see if a camera that costs under 5% of an Arri Mini LF can achieve
@@samebdonfilm I see what you're saying and I'm looking forward to the comparison. Waiting for the deals is a good idea. That really is a crazy price difference in a span of only two days 😆😆😆
@@wowKyl3 we all love a bargain but Panasonic just like to play with us sometimes 😂
Do you think there's a noticeable enough difference in image quality compared to the S5? Does the OLPF make a difference? Or is it mainly the cinema form factor that's appealing to you?
Good question! It’s a mix of the OLPF, with Opengate 6K and you have SDI plus Timecode so when DOP’ing on jobs, it makes life way easier with sound as they can just hand over a tentacle sync etc. not the only reason but it helps! I’d honestly recommend the S5 as the best for going from beginner to pro and it’s now my main B Cam always and on smaller jobs the A Cam, just works beautifully. IBIS is great in the S5 too and sometimes blows me away with how smooth it gets and you don’t have that on the BS1H so there’s ups and downs. But S5 with some promist and a vnd you’d be laughing image is virtually the same - well it is the same as they both have the same sensor lol just the BS1Hs internal processor can pull 6K from the sensor internally whereas the s5 needs a recorder to do it. - hope that makes sense and apologies if it’s a slight ramble! Both are amazing and I love them!
Its not a poor mans Arri. The DR is not there. Canon C70 is closer to Arri in color science and DR for a low price
So I can understand where you’re coming from and it’s great to see you prefer Canon! Colour science is great I do agree, I’ve just found the BS1H to be closer, I’m aiming to do a comparison of the two soon, so may be interesting to get the C70 on it too! Thanks for watching!
A Bs1h can be had used for 2000-2500. Full frame sensor, Netflix approved. a c70 is at least twice the price. Yes it has a dgo sensor so the dynamic range is amazing but if the Bs1h is good enough for Netflix I reckon it’s good enough for the rest of us lol life hack: get cinematch and you can make any camera even your iPhone look like an Arri in terms of color science.
@@ChrisFlores22 I feel you.
love the vibe. I'm 100% in with Lumix as well.
Nope, and clicking “do not recommend channel”. 😂