I appreciated the chance to see this…better to appreciate what’s there as opposed to never being able to, than having this video left on the “cutting room floor” as they say.
Good casting on Finnigan. Interesting concept for the problem to solve although it's unlikely for a white hole to "collapse" as they put it given current science. Appreciate using the first pilot Enterprise as well. Overall great script.
Absolutely fantastic attention to in-story history! I thoroughly enjoyed it😊. You integrated the technical level to match the flashback perfectly. No complaints. Just praise. Great to see some familiar faces and some great acting.
Mr. Cawley & his team need to finish the post-production on this project ASAP. There's all sorts of promise to this as an actually realized STAR TREK: PHASE II episode. Among other things, I liked how they retconned Kirk's middle initial ['R'] from the 2nd pilot by having Cadet James Kirk tell Gary Mitchell that 'Risk' is his middle name. Clever! Makes you re-assess what Gary -- as a 'God'-powered megalomaniac -- might've been thinking when he conjured up that tombstone for "JAMES R. KIRK" later on. And I had no idea that Vic Mignogna had guest-starred in one of the PHASE II Cawley productions, before going off to make his own STAR TREK CONTINUES episodes a few years later. I'd heard some scuttlebutt that there had been some 'bad blood' between the rival Trek Fan-made teams, but now I don't know what to think. I'd hate to think that Mr. Cawley might've shelved this project due to Vic becoming a 'rival' Kirk after they'd filmed his role as George Kirk in this unfinished production. C'mon, Mr. James 'R.' Cawley . . . get this episode properly finished!
@@Zakaria3400 How did Cawley make his view very clear? I completely missed that. This had been a previewed "coming attraction" and was being worked on till CBS/Paramount lawyer'd up against it's fans. However: the corporate "guidelines" stated that all fan fic episodes that were too long, or used professional actors from past trek, could be finished in any way. Hopefully; that's how Axanar will finally be completed.
@db-zc9xv Axanar was the cause of all of that trouble with Paramount at the time. And, there were egos and infighting within the fan film community that helped exacerbate Cawley's disgust with the whole making of fan films at all.
Very well done and I'm going to tell ya I chocked on some tears at the ending ,,,I haven't cried over a star trek scene since Spock died in the wrath of Kahn
What a remarkable episode. Finished with polish or not! I am especially intrigued with a Wesley Crusher overlay (underlay?) as well as many other subtle but tidy tips if the hat to THE ORIGINAL series. To the actor portraying Finnigan: Dang fine job at recreating a character. You were just as irritating and infuriating, to me, as the he who played in Shore Leave. THANK YOU TO ALL!
this is a very touching episode really deep in any ways a moment of destiny and of family being a real captain being responsible and knowing when to do the hard choices when it is needed.
This was something else!! If you did not see all the episodes, you need to see all of them!! I went to Ticonderoga NY to see these sets a few years ago at the Star Trek Tour.... I suggest all of you go to see this fantastic place!! The place is laid out exactly as it was at Desilu and the detail will blow your mind!! You can sit in the Captains chair too!! Live Long and Prosper!
No, it isn't. I'd like to hear what you have based this opinion on. Examples. Not just: good acting, great sets, amazing story, etc. What makes this better than the others?
I was glad to see Vic as George Kirk. I really wish someone would do a fan episode based on George Kirk tricking the Romulans into believe the Enterprise has a cloaking device and causing them research that very technology.
Oooooh! Deep cut: "Risk is my middle name!" To Gary "R.I.P. James R. Kirk" Mitchel! Well played! Then Finnegan proves time travel is real! I'd swear that was Bruce Mars. And then Scotty's "They'll be no trouble at all!" in reference to the transporter! I see what you did there.
this is pretty awesome i like the quality. this must been the transition from the cage to where no mans has gone before bridge and from spocks hair being slicked this is after the cage but before the second pilot. even though the bridge lights and color lights from the series are in this when they were not in ether pilot :) but good acters i had no idea vic was in this one.
This was a good episode. Too bad it wasn't ever finished and delivered in HD. Is the production prohibited from finishing it? Who played Finnegan? He was spot on, like looking at the original actor from TOS. I'm surprised he isn't in the credits! I think James Cawley plays an excellent Kirk. He's got the subtle nuances of Shatner's Kirk without doing a Shatner impression. I don't mind the hair color difference. He's much better that Vic. The VFX that did get done is excellent. It's TV series quality. Who did it?
Vic was incredibly “tenacious” … Cawley didn’t know what hit him. That said- Vic’s own production was pretty good. Shame they weren’t able to pool resources and talent.
@DannieGemz : Yes that is him, Colin Cunningham. I too am surprised he took a role in this ST production, probably wasn't well known yet. I met him at Gatecon 2022 in Vancouver. He was a blast and even was the Friday night entertainment. He also MC'd the fundraising events and some of the star panels. Very talented, down to earth kinda guy.
The vibration in the background made it hard to ujnderstans 'Spock' Little disjointed in sync but, I wouldn't have known it was a lost episode if I hadn't been told.
That was due to the effects of the white hole. It caused time to stretch, the effects proportional to the speed through space of whatever was affected. Sound and light travel at different speeds, so they were affected to different degrees. That's why the images and sounds were out of synchronization.
I love this….I’m so glad I found this, awesome story and great acting by all, thank you all trek fan people for doing this, including James Cawley and Vic for work well done, Pike’s character actor is amazing and just as I would consider him to be….I would have loved to see more of this, if this is in the raw, this is strong and should be continued and considered to be part of the trek fan based series I’ve come to love…. I would love to see more of this….👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🪐💫🪐 PS….I read in the comments that James and Vic had a disagreement over Star Trek scenarios, if only they could have worked together, what great work could have been done with their respective projects and teams….👍❤️🙏🏼🪐💫🪐🥰…so sad😢
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so this episode was not fully completed or never aired.
It would appear so. Perhaps due to lack of funds? It appears they prioritized later shows when James Cawley handed the role of Kirk over to Brian Gross. Unfortunately, CBS/Paramount’s hissy fit over fan productions - which were oftentimes more true to the spirit of the classic series than their official ongoing one - shut everything down. Cawley was also working on a new version of Buck Rogers with Gil Gerard as Buck’s father, but I remember reading they had some sort of disagreement and it fizzled.
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@@dumbbo1 thank you it looked like it was a good episode.
I feel at this point the fans who make these films should be hired by paramount to do trek they have a better grasp of the material than kurtzman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wow. What a load of crap! Looks like a high production of Trek! I can explain the enthusiasm from the comments section. Trekkers like me will literally find anything Trek related as “compelling”. But this is just bad. lol!
I appreciated the chance to see this…better to appreciate what’s there as opposed to never being able to, than having this video left on the “cutting room floor” as they say.
This is a great moment in Star Trek Fan History !!!!
Phase II released clips at the time. I always wanted to see this. They shelved it and never got back to it. It made my day to finally see it.
CBS/Paramount FORCED them to shelve it
Good casting on Finnigan. Interesting concept for the problem to solve although it's unlikely for a white hole to "collapse" as they put it given current science. Appreciate using the first pilot Enterprise as well. Overall great script.
Absolutely fantastic attention to in-story history! I thoroughly enjoyed it😊.
You integrated the technical level to match the flashback perfectly. No complaints. Just praise. Great to see some familiar faces and some great acting.
Loved this show, really wish it got a major studios backing and many more episodes & seasons
This was actually born from a premise by David Gerrold, the author of "The Trouble with Tribbles"! What an excellent discovery!
Yes, he pitched the story back when TOS was in production.
I love that they got Colon Cunningham as Captain Pike. He also stared on Stargate SG1 as Major Paul Davis.
i love how captain kirk from star trek continues is george kirk nice touch.
Mr. Cawley & his team need to finish the post-production on this project ASAP. There's all sorts of promise to this as an actually realized STAR TREK: PHASE II episode.
Among other things, I liked how they retconned Kirk's middle initial ['R'] from the 2nd pilot by having Cadet James Kirk tell Gary Mitchell that 'Risk' is his middle name. Clever! Makes you re-assess what Gary -- as a 'God'-powered megalomaniac -- might've been thinking when he conjured up that tombstone for "JAMES R. KIRK" later on.
And I had no idea that Vic Mignogna had guest-starred in one of the PHASE II Cawley productions, before going off to make his own STAR TREK CONTINUES episodes a few years later. I'd heard some scuttlebutt that there had been some 'bad blood' between the rival Trek Fan-made teams, but now I don't know what to think. I'd hate to think that Mr. Cawley might've shelved this project due to Vic becoming a 'rival' Kirk after they'd filmed his role as George Kirk in this unfinished production.
C'mon, Mr. James 'R.' Cawley . . . get this episode properly finished!
Vic was in several episodes. This was shelved mostly due to CBS putting restrictions on fan films I believe.
@@alhartman66 I'm not taking sides in this but Cawley made his view on this very clear. Still it's a damn shame.
@@Zakaria3400 How did Cawley make his view very clear? I completely missed that.
This had been a previewed "coming attraction" and was being worked on till CBS/Paramount lawyer'd up against it's fans. However: the corporate "guidelines" stated that all fan fic episodes that were too long, or used professional actors from past trek, could be finished in any way. Hopefully; that's how Axanar will finally be completed.
@db-zc9xv Axanar was the cause of all of that trouble with Paramount at the time. And, there were egos and infighting within the fan film community that helped exacerbate Cawley's disgust with the whole making of fan films at all.
@@db-zc9xvAxanar?
An excellent, exciting, wonderful episode!! Brilliant
I thought I had seen all of these. Didnt expect to see Vic.
Vic played a Klingon in Kitumba. This is the only time he appeared without heavy makeup.
@@dumbbo1 very cool
I cannot wait to see more that was awesome and incredible. I loved it.
Very well done and I'm going to tell ya I chocked on some tears at the ending ,,,I haven't cried over a star trek scene since Spock died in the wrath of Kahn
I can't imagine Pike, either Hunter or Mount, loosing his temper by screaming at a cadet. That said, this was a fun story!
The performance was over the top, but the dressing down was due, spoken as a vet.
So cool to see Vic in as George Kirk.
Great episode. Thanks!
A lot of the credits cards in this one are from the Phase II / New Voyages episode
"Enemy Starfleet".
Can you make just one more episode.pretty please with sugar on top. Your work is super good.
Thanks
"Risk is my middle name." I see what you did there. Hey, it's as good an explanation as any...
What a remarkable episode. Finished with polish or not! I am especially intrigued with a Wesley Crusher overlay (underlay?) as well as many other subtle but tidy tips if the hat to THE ORIGINAL series.
To the actor portraying Finnigan: Dang fine job at recreating a character. You were just as irritating and infuriating, to me, as the he who played in Shore Leave.
THANK YOU TO ALL!
this is a very touching episode really deep in any ways a moment of destiny and of family being a real captain being responsible and knowing when to do the hard choices when it is needed.
This is some of the BEST amateur Trek I've seen ! This really IS far better than most here on Y-T !
This was something else!! If you did not see all the episodes, you need to see all of them!! I went to Ticonderoga NY to see these sets a few years ago at the Star Trek Tour.... I suggest all of you go to see this fantastic place!! The place is laid out exactly as it was at Desilu and the detail will blow your mind!! You can sit in the Captains chair too!! Live Long and Prosper!
No, it isn't. I'd like to hear what you have based this opinion on. Examples. Not just: good acting, great sets, amazing story, etc. What makes this better than the others?
It's better than the current movies and series.
@@fjccommish Absolutely, no doubt about that, to be certain.
@@CRSolarice Your statement is highly logical.
Best explanation for James “R” Kirk ever.
god episode. Shame it was never finished. :(
This still was one of my favorite episodes of all!!!
Now we know why Gary put James r. Kirk on his tombstone,he said middle name risk
i loved the story of this episode.
As someone whos name is in the credits, its nice to se this even in the rough shape it is
I was glad to see Vic as George Kirk. I really wish someone would do a fan episode based on George Kirk tricking the Romulans into believe the Enterprise has a cloaking device and causing them research that very technology.
Pike sounds a bit like Neidermeyer from Animal House when he's giving cadet Kirk the dressing down.
This is really very good.
Oooooh! Deep cut: "Risk is my middle name!" To Gary "R.I.P. James R. Kirk" Mitchel! Well played!
Then Finnegan proves time travel is real! I'd swear that was Bruce Mars.
And then Scotty's "They'll be no trouble at all!" in reference to the transporter! I see what you did there.
This seems like a reconstruction of whatever exists of this lost episode.
this is pretty awesome i like the quality. this must been the transition from the cage to where no mans has gone before bridge and from spocks hair being slicked this is after the cage but before the second pilot. even though the bridge lights and color lights from the series are in this when they were not in ether pilot :) but good acters i had no idea vic was in this one.
Proctracted? I would have thought Bones would have colonoscopies under control by then.
Wow. I knew they had been working on this episode, I didn't know they had actually filmed it.
This was a good episode. Too bad it wasn't ever finished and delivered in HD. Is the production prohibited from finishing it?
Who played Finnegan? He was spot on, like looking at the original actor from TOS. I'm surprised he isn't in the credits!
I think James Cawley plays an excellent Kirk. He's got the subtle nuances of Shatner's Kirk without doing a Shatner impression. I don't mind the hair color difference. He's much better that Vic.
The VFX that did get done is excellent. It's TV series quality. Who did it?
What happened between James Cawley and Vic? They both play a part of the Star Trek fandom. These two, to a major degree, have kept the TOS going!
Vic was incredibly “tenacious” … Cawley didn’t know what hit him. That said- Vic’s own production was pretty good. Shame they weren’t able to pool resources and talent.
I paid two visits to Vic's Kingsland studio, and had a conversation with Vic. He pretty much blamed James for ending Fox's "New Voyages" run.
@@silvereagle2061 what is that "Fox's New Voyages run"? I never heard of that.
@db-zc9xv I don't know why I typed "Fox". I meant "New Voyages"
@@silvereagle2061 Oh. Yes. We all hiccup occasionally.
I just thought: "How did I miss a Fox/Trek?"...... and "Oh boy, new stories."
was that major davies for Stargate SG-1 playing pike ?
omg i just checked it was him thats soo friggin cool for a fan show to get a gust star like that
@DannieGemz : Yes that is him, Colin Cunningham. I too am surprised he took a role in this ST production, probably wasn't well known yet. I
met him at Gatecon 2022 in Vancouver. He was a blast and even was the Friday night entertainment. He also MC'd the fundraising events and some of the star panels. Very talented, down to earth kinda guy.
@@caironiancanuck482 thats soo neat gg on meeting him sounds like a fun guy to interact with :)
Darned if I know how I missed this; sure wish Phase II had gone forward.
The vibration in the background made it hard to ujnderstans 'Spock' Little disjointed in sync but, I wouldn't have known it was a lost episode if I hadn't been told.
"God"! ...call me Gary😂
The words and the lips seems to have been affected by the transporter.😊
Why is the sound track so funky?
So how did the cop see that the tag light was out when headlights were on his car? I would have said that to him.
I'm betting that "Proctracted" doesn't have two c's.
I love the callbacks: Finnegan, Gary Mitchell, and was the girlfriend Carol Markus? I was out getting popsicles when that scene started.
Hey they guy that plays his dad plays kirk in that other Star Trek web show!! Neat!
Good to see Vic Mignogna on the screen again.
Good
Blah blah blah bridge
On my way...
21:26 “Blah blah blah bridge” lol
09:42 Is that the USS Printer Cartridge?
Oddly enough that freighter design came out before printer cartridges. Another modern item ST predicted? I think maybe!😉
The credits don't seem to be for this episode.
I don't know if anyone else noticed this - but at 28:24, the sound started being delayed by about two seconds - making it very difficult to watch.
That was due to the effects of the white hole. It caused time to stretch, the effects proportional to the speed through space of whatever was affected. Sound and light travel at different speeds, so they were affected to different degrees. That's why the images and sounds were out of synchronization.
I found the poor acting and terrible sets made it difficult to watch.
Thank goodness for the 10 second skip button.
Was hoping to see a few bare knuckle rounds with Finnegan.
Why bring aboard that character and let him go to waste?
I love this….I’m so glad I found this, awesome story and great acting by all, thank you all trek fan people for doing this, including James Cawley and Vic for work well done, Pike’s character actor is amazing and just as I would consider him to be….I would have loved to see more of this, if this is in the raw, this is strong and should be continued and considered to be part of the trek fan based series I’ve come to love…. I would love to see more of this….👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🪐💫🪐
PS….I read in the comments that James and Vic had a disagreement over Star Trek scenarios, if only they could have worked together, what great work could have been done with their respective projects and teams….👍❤️🙏🏼🪐💫🪐🥰…so sad😢
so this episode was not fully completed or never aired.
It would appear so. Perhaps due to lack of funds? It appears they prioritized later shows when James Cawley handed the role of Kirk over to Brian Gross. Unfortunately, CBS/Paramount’s hissy fit over fan productions - which were oftentimes more true to the spirit of the classic series than their official ongoing one - shut everything down. Cawley was also working on a new version of Buck Rogers with Gil Gerard as Buck’s father, but I remember reading they had some sort of disagreement and it fizzled.
@@dumbbo1 thank you it looked like it was a good episode.
Terrific. It's great to see something new Star Trek with a great story, good production, without the WOKE.
What was this a follow up to?! Why was Kirk going back to Earth?
Finney was a senior to Kirk in the academy. He would have already graduated when Kirk took the test.
And Kirk was a teacher (probably the equivalent of an undergrad student-teacher) when Gary Mitchell was a cadet.
Maybe Finney is a TA teaching assistant here.
@@dumbbo1Might the different years or classes train together?
The Kobayashi Maru.
9:42 The ship looks like an iPhone with nacelles.
audio is not synced with Video.
The actor playing Commander Kirk, Captain Kirk's father, played Captain Kirk on "Star Trek Continues".
Poor mans Elvis 😂😂
I feel at this point the fans who make these films should be hired by paramount to do trek they have a better grasp of the material than kurtzman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Captain Robert April should be in command
Por favor en español
Better than Discovery by a mile.
The only one who's in character is Finnegan
43:40
They could have at least gotten a non Elvis wig.
I liked the old Enterprise.
It was geeky and awkward, bordering on frumpy. The new iterations try too hard to be sleek and sexy. Lame in my opinion.
Don’ t like these impostors. Do you?
yes
Blah blah bridge lol
What a mess
poor story, bag acting
It’s not nearly as “bag” as your poor spelling and grammar.
do better yourself then
Kirk cadet is dreadful
Wow. What a load of crap! Looks like a high production of Trek! I can explain the enthusiasm from the comments section. Trekkers like me will literally find anything Trek related as “compelling”. But this is just bad. lol!
I think the acting in the original was bad. But this is this a joke?!?
Can't watch it anymore @ 5 minutes in. Too stupid.
Show us how good your home made Star Trek episode is