As far as I know it is only Americans maybe Canadians who use Sodder. No idea why, i did point out they do not call their Soldiers "Sodders" so why pronounce Solder as Sodder and carry out soddering, just not right is it.
Was working at an electronics manufacturer in the 80's. I was building transformers and large resistance coils. Lots of soldering. Now I build a lot of wiring harnesses for bikes, hotrods, and trucks. I've gotta say that you hit on all good points, and a few of these, I'm still guilty of. I can be lazy about changing irons between different jobs needing points instead of chisel tips, so . . . The missed shrink tube, OMG! I hope you and yours are warm and well. Have fun.
I struggled for years with soldering. First struggle was too low wattage cheap irons. So I got a cheap high wattage iron. Not much better… So after a couple years of dull grey falling apart solders with that, I sprung for a proper Weller high wattage iron. Things somewhat improved, but soldering was still a massive pain in the… fingers actually, as I burnt myself more than I did anything else. So I started watching UA-cam videos of people soldering. Still couldn’t get it right. Figured I just didn’t have the skill… that I was a forever noob… Until one day I noticed that in RC vids they had a different tip. A chisel tip!!! Holy shit. So I ordered chisel tips not realizing that Weller irons have model specific tips… Money wasted and lesson learned, I finally got the right tip and damn, soldering is easy! Top TIP: get the right tip! Now I periodically desolder my older builds and do it up right.
HAD A 23 WATT WELLER IRON. IT DIED AFTER 20 PLUS YEARS GREAT UNIT. SHOULD I GET A CHEAP ONE OR BUY ONCE CRY ONCE GOT ANOTHER WELLER. 40 WATT WORKS THE NUTS MONEY WELL SPEND
When soldering wires to an XT or similar connector, have the other side of the connector fitted- It will hold the pins straight, if the plastic body starts to soften/melt....
Without doubt one of the best soldering videos out there. I’ve always struggled with this technique and with great appreciation to Mr Tomley, I now know why! Brilliant guide.
I’ve never really been any good at “soldering” but I’ve always been able to get by. These tips will really help me in the future, thanks 👍🏻😎 “Sodding” is something completely different & I don’t think UA-cam would let you show that 😆😂🤣
I've gotta be honest, the ts100 is one of the best soldering irons in the market, you can update firmware to make it even better. They are not just for small gauge wires. The majority of the fpv community has one. They have many different tips so they are perfect for all manner of wires in rc
@@masjuggalo But it's not. It's exactly the same as a soldering station like Tomley showed in the beginning, but probably around 1/10 of the price. I have a TS100 as well and it's truly amazing how it works.
@@MCsCreations they are awesome I even managed to solder 8awg wire don’t get me wrong it took a while to heat the wire but it gets there they are a good field iron but would definitely say get a bench iron.
@@masjuggalo While it's certainly more complicated than just buying a typical iron, the TS100 is quite cheap. I own one and to be honest I think 8AWG is really pushing it, an old school 25-30w iron with a chunky tip handles it infinitely better because of the thermal mass of the tip.
More power does not mean more heat transfer. A clean tip means more heat transfer along with putting solder on the iron to make good contact without a lot of pressure
@MC's Creations It adds thermal mass, there is a lot to soldering. It takes lots of experience and can't be learned in 20 minutes. This video is pretty decent and gives good advice
Agreed. More power simply equates to More Heat TO Transfer. The larger tip help with transfer as there's more surface area touching and passing heat. This is also why a lil' dab of solder on the tip greatly helps heat transfer! More surface area passing heat. Conversely, this is why it harder to get heat into ground plugs or pads. Typically, any ground location shares the "ground plane" (a monolithic sheet of metal that lives inside the pcb) with all the other locations. There's a LOT of heat dissipation there (Damn, I should just go make my own video! 🤣)
Forgetting the heat shrink is the electrical version of forgetting to put the nut on the tube before flaring it. Patience is a big thing with soldering too.
One final tip especially when using a metal "helping hands" tool. If soldering on battery connectors always cut and solder one wire at once and insulate the connectors
Great Video Phil, ( i have all the gear & no idea ! ) I’m joking, i used to solder on a regular basis but no so much now, I am actually looking for some advice on which is the best solder to use these days for the RC hobby ? ? For soldering XT90 & others plus ESC & Motors etc. What i do have is not really suitable to be honest, There are so many solders on Amazon these days. i seem to remember Phil that some time ago, before you moved to Tomley that your solder was 60/40 alloy ? Any help from anyone would be very much appreciated, Thank You 🙏🏻
thanks for the tips, soldering is the only part of RC I don't like but am getting better. Those US people forgot the Queens English when they got Independence 😃
I'm still well disappointed at the loss of the Maplin stores! We had one here for ages, and although I didn't visit more than maybe once a month, it was super useful and the staff were top notch!!!
Maplins was great back in the day. Me and my uncle gave each other the challenge to take a cheap rc from argos and create something better. (I chose a £5 subaru back in 2003). Anyway, first time id been to maplins they had a wall full of different LEDs amd sold the them in singles. I created my own light kit and had an awesome little car, blue underglow with front and rear lights too.
No.11: make sure the wire and contact are touching in the solder joint (titanium or tungsten jewellers pick helps here), not floating in the solder pool - helps current flow no end especially 4S and upwards. Crimp and solder best.
Hey Tomley, about the "small soldering iron, probably battery powered"... It's actually 60w! I have one and to tell the truth... It's much better than my bigger one. 😬 Either way, that one is perfect to keep in your backpack, for the eventual field repair, because you can power it from a 4s to 6s battery. (That's what I do.) About the mistakes... Yeah... Heat shrink... Guilty as charged. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank u so much thought it was just me never thought to check my soldering irons 1/1 cars perfect cheers from Australia i bloodly love this channel i learn so much 😎
I certainly do some of them , to much Solder , forgot the Heat shrink. Melt the plugs is my best one . I got a 100w soldering iron. I still can’t solder holding it underneath the XT90 I poor tons of solder into the pot and while it’s still boiling I shove the wire in . Then the wire can get to hot to hold , I flaming hate soldering . 🤗 I still get by though 🤠🤠🤠🤠
Buying decisions: What if one day I need to solder the world? Better get that fancy expensive one with all the bells and whistles. Ends up in the closet, used 2x a year 😬
Always good to review this kind of stuff once in a while. Saw a very useful video on "Roadside RC" channel , specifically on soldering battery connectors; worth checking out also!
Hey mister Tomley, i forget my heatshrinks every time so i bougt a little bottle of conformal coating and blob it on there. and you can also use it ti waterproof other electronics on your crawler/rs rigs :D
That shrink tubing thing also happens with tube nuts on brake line...and it's always a perfect flare or solder joint. I assume the pronunciation sang with just you know an England versus us thing. I wouldn't know because originally from Massachusetts tend to replace my Rs with a AH sound so my rc caah 😂
6:52 - this technique doesn't even work on 18 AWG with a 100W Soldering Iron at 454C! I end up having to do the bad technique you just mentioned because otherwise I'm just pointlessly trying to hold a soldering iron below a wire and solder above the wire and have nothing happen except me losing the position with my hands and melting something else I didn't mean to!
I have experienced the occasional braided wire cable that solder absolutely will not adhere to. I assume it's to do with a coating on the wire braid, silicon or similar? Even after lots of heat, solder just balls & rolls off. Never really got to the bottom of it.
Really nice I know right I seen some soldering that’s sketch stuff to yes guilty here :) I do a pretty good joint. But I have been sweating copper pipe in the heating air conditioning Field with 14% Silver since. 1998. I just made a couple of joints on my New motor with the ISTD esc 70 . I did it right yes 👌.
missing the heatshrink, multiple times, on the same freaking piece of wire. Also EC5 connector. 1st good solder, forgot to put the plastic part on first. remove, put plastic on, screw up connection because i was annoyed with forgetting it the first time. So it doesnt hold. Get more annoyed, resolder with a good connection. look to the side, see the again forgotten plastic piece. all in all took me about 5 attempts and lots of swearing to solder 1 connector.
It's defo Sol der not sod er. I am English living in the USA and these clowns love to SODDER lol. You are true and correct Mr Tomley. Food for thought, what happens when you mix the words Sodder and Tomley............................................... hehe
I have been soldering every day for the past 25+ years this video has solid advice.
Thanks you for addressing the solder/sodder issue,thought it was just me that got twitchy every time I heard it...👍
As far as I know it is only Americans maybe Canadians who use Sodder. No idea why, i did point out they do not call their Soldiers "Sodders" so why pronounce Solder as Sodder and carry out soddering, just not right is it.
Maybe they are addicted to soddering
Yeah it’s a pain in the arse
As an extreme amateur to the hobby, gotta say you nailed all the things. Thanks for the knowledge!!!
Was working at an electronics manufacturer in the 80's. I was building transformers and large resistance coils.
Lots of soldering. Now I build a lot of wiring harnesses for bikes, hotrods, and trucks.
I've gotta say that you hit on all good points, and a few of these, I'm still guilty of. I can be lazy about changing irons between different jobs needing points instead of chisel tips, so . . .
The missed shrink tube, OMG!
I hope you and yours are warm and well.
Have fun.
I tend to use uninsulated crimp connectors and solder them after but I use a butane torch to heat it
I struggled for years with soldering. First struggle was too low wattage cheap irons. So I got a cheap high wattage iron. Not much better… So after a couple years of dull grey falling apart solders with that, I sprung for a proper Weller high wattage iron. Things somewhat improved, but soldering was still a massive pain in the… fingers actually, as I burnt myself more than I did anything else. So I started watching UA-cam videos of people soldering. Still couldn’t get it right. Figured I just didn’t have the skill… that I was a forever noob… Until one day I noticed that in RC vids they had a different tip. A chisel tip!!! Holy shit. So I ordered chisel tips not realizing that Weller irons have model specific tips… Money wasted and lesson learned, I finally got the right tip and damn, soldering is easy! Top TIP: get the right tip! Now I periodically desolder my older builds and do it up right.
HAD A 23 WATT WELLER IRON. IT DIED AFTER 20 PLUS YEARS GREAT UNIT. SHOULD I GET A CHEAP ONE OR BUY ONCE CRY ONCE GOT ANOTHER WELLER. 40 WATT WORKS THE NUTS MONEY WELL SPEND
When soldering wires to an XT or similar connector, have the other side of the connector fitted- It will hold the pins straight, if the plastic body starts to soften/melt....
Was going to leave the same comment 👍
Yeah, me too. But that means it's a pretty bad connector. 😕
Without doubt one of the best soldering videos out there. I’ve always struggled with this technique and with great appreciation to Mr Tomley, I now know why! Brilliant guide.
I’ve never really been any good at “soldering” but I’ve always been able to get by. These tips will really help me in the future, thanks 👍🏻😎
“Sodding” is something completely different & I don’t think UA-cam would let you show that 😆😂🤣
Made several of those and others, but great video. I always hated soldering but have begun to enjoy it. Biggest thing to help get good is good tools.
exactly! after I started using high quality solder and more powerful iron. soldering got way easier
Good tips people overlook, sometimes haste takes over and common sense goes to the wayside. Stay safe over there!!!
1:22 I have one of these and have no problem for all my RC stuff. I've used it for 10 and 12 gauge wires with no issues.
I can't believe you said solder when it's really sodder!!...🤣🤣 Thanks for the tips
Thanks Tomley. Expect you’ve saved me endless frustration. Thank you. MR
I've gotta be honest, the ts100 is one of the best soldering irons in the market, you can update firmware to make it even better. They are not just for small gauge wires. The majority of the fpv community has one. They have many different tips so they are perfect for all manner of wires in rc
That sounds more complicated and expensive then it needs to be
@@masjuggalo But it's not. It's exactly the same as a soldering station like Tomley showed in the beginning, but probably around 1/10 of the price.
I have a TS100 as well and it's truly amazing how it works.
@@MCsCreations they are awesome I even managed to solder 8awg wire don’t get me wrong it took a while to heat the wire but it gets there they are a good field iron but would definitely say get a bench iron.
@@masjuggalo While it's certainly more complicated than just buying a typical iron, the TS100 is quite cheap.
I own one and to be honest I think 8AWG is really pushing it, an old school 25-30w iron with a chunky tip handles it infinitely better because of the thermal mass of the tip.
Ts100 is good for little drone stuff but if your soldering battery connectors it's worthless
Good learning and teachings right here.
Guilty of the blobby joints on occasion. Keep practising
I hate soldering. So I watched this to learn to do it better. Great tips, thank you👍
More power does not mean more heat transfer. A clean tip means more heat transfer along with putting solder on the iron to make good contact without a lot of pressure
A bigger tip also helps.
@MC's Creations It adds thermal mass, there is a lot to soldering. It takes lots of experience and can't be learned in 20 minutes. This video is pretty decent and gives good advice
@@MCsCreations that's what she said😂
@@huckaberryfpv4986 Ouch... That would burn! 😬
Agreed. More power simply equates to More Heat TO Transfer. The larger tip help with transfer as there's more surface area touching and passing heat. This is also why a lil' dab of solder on the tip greatly helps heat transfer! More surface area passing heat. Conversely, this is why it harder to get heat into ground plugs or pads. Typically, any ground location shares the "ground plane" (a monolithic sheet of metal that lives inside the pcb) with all the other locations. There's a LOT of heat dissipation there (Damn, I should just go make my own video! 🤣)
Just one to add... Not waiting quite long enough for the solder to cool properly and burning an imprint of the nice new solder joint into your skin!
Great advice! I have done most of those mistakes and also melted a connector. It definitely takes a bit of practice to sodddder
I made a point to remember the hear shrink the other day, once done. I had forgotten the heat shrink 😆 Great tips👍🏼
Forgetting the heat shrink is the electrical version of forgetting to put the nut on the tube before flaring it. Patience is a big thing with soldering too.
MATE... the solder vs solder bit at the end made you the worlds greatest legend ! it's a hate fine also
One final tip especially when using a metal "helping hands" tool. If soldering on battery connectors always cut and solder one wire at once and insulate the connectors
Great Video Phil, ( i have all the gear & no idea ! ) I’m joking, i used to solder on a regular basis but no so much now, I am actually looking for some advice on which is the best solder to use these days for the RC hobby ? ?
For soldering XT90 & others plus ESC & Motors etc.
What i do have is not really suitable to be honest,
There are so many solders on Amazon these days.
i seem to remember Phil that some time ago, before you moved to Tomley that your solder was 60/40 alloy ?
Any help from anyone would be very much appreciated,
Thank You 🙏🏻
Thanks mate. Yeah, 60/40… don’t go for less free as it’s crap. But don’t breath the fumes in!
@@TomleyRC thanks for that Phil, much appreciated 👍🏼
You know i said to you last week i didn't know how to solder......
Now i do !
Thankyou !
BOOM.Lets SOLDER with a SOLDERING iron....Tomley does it again.✌️
Thanks for the soldering course, I feel confident I can now successfully sodder my rc requirements... cheers for that
thanks for the tips, soldering is the only part of RC I don't like but am getting better. Those US people forgot the Queens English when they got Independence 😃
Nice way to put the solder iron under the cable and put over the cable the solder.
I'm still well disappointed at the loss of the Maplin stores! We had one here for ages, and although I didn't visit more than maybe once a month, it was super useful and the staff were top notch!!!
Maplins was great back in the day. Me and my uncle gave each other the challenge to take a cheap rc from argos and create something better. (I chose a £5 subaru back in 2003). Anyway, first time id been to maplins they had a wall full of different LEDs amd sold the them in singles. I created my own light kit and had an awesome little car, blue underglow with front and rear lights too.
Great source of AAs.
Great tips there mate 🤣😂.. Will certainly take onboard what you have said as I've seen a few things I was doing wrong so cheers matey..
I do find it odd that other nationalities try to tell the English that they have gotten English wrong 🤪.
No no no, not me, definately! That's what I thought until you hit me instantly with the bloody heatshrink! :D
Fantastic "tips" haha don't forget the #1 most important rule when soldering: good ventilation! Your health is nothing to mess about with!
No.11: make sure the wire and contact are touching in the solder joint (titanium or tungsten jewellers pick helps here), not floating in the solder pool - helps current flow no end especially 4S and upwards. Crimp and solder best.
Thanks for a simple and practical video that will help soldering buffoons like me.
Thank you! Greetings from Germany.
Hey Tomley, about the "small soldering iron, probably battery powered"... It's actually 60w! I have one and to tell the truth... It's much better than my bigger one. 😬
Either way, that one is perfect to keep in your backpack, for the eventual field repair, because you can power it from a 4s to 6s battery. (That's what I do.)
About the mistakes... Yeah... Heat shrink... Guilty as charged. 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
if I'm soldering a plug i plug another plug into it just to make sure the plug I'm soldering dose not over heat, also 7:27 so glad you said this
Thank u so much thought it was just me never thought to check my soldering irons 1/1 cars perfect cheers from Australia i bloodly love this channel i learn so much 😎
I certainly do some of them , to much Solder , forgot the Heat shrink.
Melt the plugs is my best one . I got a 100w soldering iron. I still can’t solder holding it underneath the XT90 I poor tons of solder into the pot and while it’s still boiling I shove the wire in . Then the wire can get to hot to hold ,
I flaming hate soldering . 🤗 I still get by though 🤠🤠🤠🤠
If there's anythink to be learnt from Tomely, it's the propuh way to say solduh.... 😏
Nice to see you not using a WET sponge to clean the tip - coz it cools the tips down.
But he does state you can use a "wet sponge" tut tut.
We were told at school we were NOT allowed to touch the solder to the soldering iron. It never worked😂
I'm going to have to use this as a drinking video.. every time you say soldering we drink!
Very nice 🙏🥰
Oh yeah I've definitely done these in my time haha, but practise makes perfect guys 😀
Do you think you will be able to get an absima ab3.4lb, a 3s brushless truggy
I suck at soldering . Here in Massachusetts we pronounce it
saw-da-ing 😀
One of the biggest things that gets on my nerves when watching vids is when the yanks say sodder. Does my head in 😖
😅
Buying decisions: What if one day I need to solder the world? Better get that fancy expensive one with all the bells and whistles. Ends up in the closet, used 2x a year 😬
I enjoy you’re videos ….and Thank you for the tips on this video..
thanks for sharing tomley!
I have that same mat and those same arms. I have too small of a gun and I feed to much so I will definitely use the dap trick
Solder , solder , solder ! And don't get me started on aluminium 🙈😂🙉
Thanks for this, you showed me something I’ve been doing wrong! Great video 👍🏻🍻
Always using the pointing tip one.. Now i know lol.. Tq phil
I'm an American viewer bit I still don't see this issue with how you say solder. Anyhow, awesome video and thank for sharing.
Top man, respect 🙏🏼 I am now a professional sodder
And when it's your birthday, you are not one year "odder", you're one year "older".
I've done so meny of these mistake it's nice to no I am not the only person xddd
Always good to review this kind of stuff once in a while.
Saw a very useful video on "Roadside RC" channel , specifically on soldering battery connectors; worth checking out also!
Great video! 🙂
B****X... I have just single-handedly ticked all those boxes.. cheers Tomley..👍🇬🇧😎
Two things you missed: Flux and Magic Pixie Smoke.
Great video, I needed all ten of of those! Very helpful!
If you are soldering the female plug side make sure to plug the male end in to prevent warping of the pins👍
I tried to solder an XT60 for the first time a couple of days ago. I made about half of these mistakes 😂
Sodda? 🤯🤯🤯 Hell no 😂 thanks for the vid dude
6:35 by taking solder to the wire on the tip you burn away the Flux. Feeding would actually make for a better joint.
7:00 too much solder on the tip as you blobbed the connector. :-P
Way to much in general as I’d used this connector to many times to show the technique 😛
High powered iron is a game changer when soldering xt60 connectors
I kind of enjoy soldering done plenty like twin motor rc planes but the one i hate is XT90, i will use EC5 rather than 90`s
Lol. Here in the southern states. We vocalize the L as well but use a soft O rather than a hard O. Similar to Saul. Lol saulder.
Hey mister Tomley,
i forget my heatshrinks every time so i bougt a little bottle of conformal coating and blob it on there.
and you can also use it ti waterproof other electronics on your crawler/rs rigs :D
You missed the biggest mistake; accidentally grabbing the hot bit of the iron! :D
Guilty as charged ;)
Thx for the hints!
Thank you :-)
As a professional painter I hear the same argument concerning calking...😊 for real though.
HAKKO all day baby!! And ofcourse I've never made ANY of those mistakes!🤥
-Are you using lead free solder?!
That shrink tubing thing also happens with tube nuts on brake line...and it's always a perfect flare or solder joint. I assume the pronunciation sang with just you know an England versus us thing. I wouldn't know because originally from Massachusetts tend to replace my Rs with a AH sound so my rc caah 😂
I'm from MA as well. "Got to soldaah a new connectaah on my RC caah" LOL!
Nice thank you I've most definitely made some of those thank you again
I've done some of those, some point in time... :p
Soldering in a not well-ventilated area is another big mistake. Those fumes are nasty! 😵
Can't say I'm not guilty for a few of these lol
We all are. No one is perfect.
Great video. Sadly I'm guilty of half of these. Lol
I'm in the US and it's def solder as you might say you can sod off with with that soder 😆
thanks for the informative video mate, learned a lot😮👍
6:52 - this technique doesn't even work on 18 AWG with a 100W Soldering Iron at 454C! I end up having to do the bad technique you just mentioned because otherwise I'm just pointlessly trying to hold a soldering iron below a wire and solder above the wire and have nothing happen except me losing the position with my hands and melting something else I didn't mean to!
10/10! what else you got? :))
I've never soldered in my life. So, I guess this is a good place to start. And, with your experience mate, why not take a squizz?
It’s all about that L. Cocking vs caulking and I’m Canadian eh
Love my self a bit of flux, flux makes tinning easier gets through the cables
I have experienced the occasional braided wire cable that solder absolutely will not adhere to. I assume it's to do with a coating on the wire braid, silicon or similar? Even after lots of heat, solder just balls & rolls off. Never really got to the bottom of it.
Really nice I know right I seen some soldering that’s sketch stuff to yes guilty here :) I do a pretty good joint. But I have been sweating copper pipe in the heating air conditioning Field with 14% Silver since. 1998. I just made a couple of joints on my New motor with the ISTD esc 70 . I did it right yes 👌.
missing the heatshrink, multiple times, on the same freaking piece of wire.
Also EC5 connector.
1st good solder, forgot to put the plastic part on first.
remove, put plastic on, screw up connection because i was annoyed with forgetting it the first time. So it doesnt hold.
Get more annoyed, resolder with a good connection. look to the side, see the again forgotten plastic piece.
all in all took me about 5 attempts and lots of swearing to solder 1 connector.
The only one I still make is forgetting the damn shrink tubing before soldering! Wtf. I been soldering for 30+ years!
Haha!! So true!!! If you say you haven’t made any of those mistakes…YOUR A LIAR 🤥🤣
IM constantly doing the first one . Never fails
And when a drop lands on your leg when you are wearing shorts 🤬👊🏻👍🏻
It's defo Sol der not sod er. I am English living in the USA and these clowns love to SODDER lol. You are true and correct Mr Tomley. Food for thought, what happens when you mix the words Sodder and Tomley............................................... hehe
Those are not mistakes I make , those mistakes are just how I solder.