Sail Life - ePropulsion electric outboard, new sails and new rigging
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2022
- It's been a busy week aboard Athena! This week we took our new electric outboard for a spin. Put up our brand new sails from Precision Sails. Lead all lines aft to the cockpit and get the first glimpse of our new sprayhood with a backdrop. Electric outboard: www.promarinestore.co.uk/elec...
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Who else freaked out a little when Mads didn't oversize the drill holes and fill them with epoxy before mounting everything?
The thought crossed my mind too. But, knowing him, he did it of camera
The area is not the decking he replaced, but it is solid fiberglass no sandwich construction.
I also was yelling at my phone . But Hopefully off camera he did drill fill drill. We will see.
@@patrickradcliffe3837 Looked like brown fiberglass sawdust.😀
Yes, my question also. First thing I thought about. Come on Mads, did you or didn’t you?😆
Love the contacts.
Time for Ava to sew a cover for the new e-propulsion motor!
Sun fun to see Ava without her glasses, looking beautiful as always!
Thank's this video. I look forward to next week and stovefan installation and experiences of it.
Door handle on the head? YAY!!!!!!!!
OMG! Ava isn't wearing glasses! What bright shiny eyes! Madds, you lucky dog you! LOL! Cheers guys!
See you next week. How exciting!
Those new sails sure do look spiffy. Can't wait to see them in action.
LOVE your electric outboard! So quiet, so light! Awesome video! 💕💕💕
Ahh my Sunday afternoon is now a great afternoon. Thanks guys.
Good Job as always!...you have really fitted her out with so much... Cheer's!
Athena is looking supercalifragilisticexpealidocious Spiffy
The new sails are both spiffy and gorgeous!!
Teased on the door knob! Can't wait!
Stay safe and we'll see you next week.
Not much can beat crispy new sails!
Bravo Zulu for wearing PFDs in the dinghy. Here in the states we have found that only about 1 in 100 cruisers ever wear them and will even make snotty remarks to those few of us who buck the trend and always wear them. "Not a good swimmer, huh?" Is one of many things folks have said. Whatever, we care not for peer pressure and religiously wear them in the dinghy and on deck.
Because of moisture after a rain in a dinghy, and theft concerns at the many weird places we tend to leave our dinghy for hours at a time as we explore towns and wildlands, we use cheap Type-III non-inflatable ski vest type PFDs in the dinghy that don't mind getting a soaking or being left out in the UV rays of the sun.
We have nice inflatable PFDs with an integrated harness for tethers when we are sailing and always-ALWAYS wear them whenever we leave the cockpit no matter the conditions unless we are at anchor or docked. If it gets bad or dark they go on and we even put on the tethers -especially when one of us is belowdecks sleeping.
Cute little E-outboard. It does make a lot of sense to have an electric outboard since you already are "All-In" on the heavily electric-powered boat systems including the all electrical galley. I am afraid that 3 knots is not going to cut it though in many areas with even a halfway strong current. We once got stuck in the marina at the dinghy dock when in New York City because we were unable to make it back to our mooring ball since the current was too strong to return to our boat. We had to wait hours for the tide to change and by that time it was pretty cold and dark. We hadn't prepared with warmer clothes or lights.
IMHO a dinghy needs to make closer than 5 knots minimum. Maybe if you row at the same time you could make that speed to beat the current.
*"Maybe if you row at the same time you could make that speed to beat the current."*
In an inflatable? Somehow I doubt it.
I like the fact that you are continuing your upgrades and making it just the way you want it.can’t wait to see your new sails full !!
Fair winds ⛵️
99.99% done? It has been a special era following the coming of Athena and I assume a whole lot of us feel a little bewildered when there are no more Sunday updates and how to do things properly. Mads, I hope you realize that your refit/remake/new-make have made a profund impact on the entire DIY boating community. A really really big thank you.
So now, at the commencement of a new era which hopefully will entail lots of actual sailing, I'm sure many of us will continue to travel with you and Ava on your exploratory passages across the seven seas. Good and safe luck to both of you.
Super spiffy progress.😀👍⛵️
Super clean boat... you have done a fantastic job building her... going to be a great little home for you guys... 🤙
Great, as always. Your videos are now Sunday tradition
You are my favourite sailing couple. Thank you for another fantastic video :)
Kickin off my week with your QUIET electric outboard & am 99.9% ready too. Cheers.
Another great video Mads and Ava .
You can buy a shorter winch handle (~25 cm), OR buy an Anderson electric winch. Either would allow you to move the winch outboard.
Safe travels!
Once you're satisfied with the outboards performance, you can always reinforce the inside of the handle with fiberglass as a preventative measure. I'd slather that battery connector with dielectric grease, considering how likely it is that it will be splashed with salt water regularly in use... 😎
Good assessment of these e-outboard engines. The ePropulsion has been driving the tender of our Beneteau 40 for about two years now before we had him on an open sailboat to get in and out of the harbor. Overall we are pretty pleased with the engine.
Our main reason for choosing the ePropulsion over the Troqueedo was none of your mentioned reasons. For us, it was how the drive works. The Torqueedo has gears between the electric engine and the propeller. The eProulsion has direct drive where the propeller is mounted directly on the motor shaft. The gears in the Torqueedo can fail if the propeller hits something and the geared drive is significantly more nosy.
Two things to be aware of, like every battery, getting older, there may be some surprises, the power can drop faster than projected.
The other one is the battery housing, specifically the black part. It has cheap injection molding and can crack easily, and not much force is needed. Ours broke while it dropped from just a couple of inches on a wooden pier. I thought it was no big deal. I will order a spare and repair it. The problem was that this piece was not available as a spare part, and ePropulsion suggested getting a new battery. In the end, we got lucky, and our local retailer had a defective battery and was willing to sell us the lower part of the housing.
When the motor is under the waterline the possibility of water ingress is greater. In many places it is considered rude behavior or poor etiquette to lift a dinghy motor up and leave it that way at a dinghy dock because with the people coming and going and crowding causes sharp props out of the water to slash and damage inflatable boats.
If you need to leave the motor under the water for hours each day if you spend a lot of time ashore then the possibility of the seals eventually failing increase as the years go by. That's why regular outboard motors are supposed to change their lower unit oil regularly. They can take a tiny bit of water getting in past the shaft seals. Fancy electric motors really can't.
The Torqeedo 1003 and 503 models were geared. They have been replaced by the 1103 and 603, both brushless direct drive. I never found the 1003 to be that noticeably loud except in videos. The 1103 is as quiet as the Spirit 1.0 line.
It has been so great watching these videos for the last 5 years. Ava, you are so sweet, kind, and patient. Mads, you have done an amazing job on this boat rebuild and I can't wait to see the videos of the coming year. Props to you both. Sail Life 4Ever!
Nothing like stealth mode in an anchorage returning to the boat when it’s way past seniors bed time. 😉👍 looks really nice…
Wonderful to see your lady without the binoculars on, sorry but she looks more gorgeous without them massive glasses, please keep the brilliant content going and keep safe 👍🏻
See you're almost done with your crossing to Cherbourg (3-24-2022, 17:30 UTC). Beam reach the whole way... Nice! :) Looking forward to seeing some sailing video.
Are we finally reaching the end of the door handle saga? I'm not sure how I feel about that.
maybe it will squeak or not fit properly. to be continued.
Dont jump to conclusions. We've seen no evidence that the door handles have been installed!
What's the problem with gaffa tape anyway?
It's like the drainage in the lower field.
I installed 8 new spinlock clutches a couple of years ago. I have everything lead aft to the cockpit now . They are so much better than the old jammers i replaced.
As always I’m chuffed to get my Sail Life weekly fix! Y’all are doing a fantastic job…keep up the good work!
It's a simple rigged electric robust engine. Would appreciate the cost of the unit.
its beautiful happy for you both
Great videos, thanks.
Wow, while perhaps for you two it seems so long that you have not moved, we are shocked by how rapidly you two will be ready for being in the Med! I wished you could have gone to Bath and the canals of that area! We lived 18 k, east in Braford on Avon! A beautiful village with 80 % of its building being oridginal stone! I really like very much the massive info and the links! Thanks again for you show!!!
Spiffy electric outboard! I drive an Electric EGolf superbly peaceful drive
So sad to hear that you are leaving Gosport. I have seen both of you about when I have been driving around close to the Marina. I wish you luck in your planned travels. It will also be great to see an episode with you both and the crew of Cadoha. Bon voyage Mads and Ava.
Ava is back! Great to see the team back together. Hope you can show some sailing video when you do pull out of Gosport. The gold leaf cove stripe to-do sticky must have fallen down off the to-do bulkhead, but don't worry, I will try not to forget to remind you how spiffy it will look. Have fun on your sail.
Keep the episodes coming, by far the best sailing channel. Keep up the great work.
Captain Rick on sailing sophisticated lady has 2 of them an some other gear that goes with everything else... It's so very quiet... An really easy to use...that spray hood is a beautiful edition to Athena as well as bringing the lines back so neatly as well as the continuous line...that's nice to have. Thanks for sharing your lives with us...Fare winds an following sea's guy's ✌🏼💗😊❣️
For the down wind preventer, make up a line for permanent rigging from the clew end of the boom to somewhere like the vang attachment point. You can then use that to attach a line forward and back to the cockpit as required without having to get to the end of the boom while at sea.
Nice video as always.
I know a little of the story behind the junk rig Warrior. She was for sale ~3yrs ago and we viewed her. She was built in 1996 and was conventionally rigged; the seller had had her converted to junk schooner. We were gutted not to buy her but for us, the price and condition did not match up.
Lovely to see your introduction of Ava as your wife. Need to get up to date from February busy at work
I love my e-Propulsion. I don’t miss my old outboard not starting and making a lot of noise. That Warrior 40 is interesting for sure. Hope,the sailmakers advised you about running them in to avoid things like a hooked leech etc. Look forward to seeing you with the guys from Cadoha. Andy UK
don't forget to put a piece of safety between the engine support and the transom, you never know with the swirls.... we have seen this before, losing an engine, it happened to my father when I was child...! all my best wishes to the newlyweds...!!
ne pas oublier de mettre un bout de sécurité entre le support du moteur et le tableau arrière, on ne sait jamais avec les remous.... on a déjà vu cela , perdre un moteur, cela est arrivé à mon père quand j'étais enfant...! tous mes voeux de Bonheur aux jeunes Mariés...!!
Thanks
Love your videos!
Very interesting seeing the new electric outboard powering you both along in the dingy. But I've got to tell you that I almost choked on my coffee when Ava was making the bed and you told us you were going to "take Ava for a spin..."! But she clarified that for us immediately, LoL!! Love you guys.
Hey, Great video as always.
I have a Torqeedo which is used to power my Moore24, 24' 2100 pound sailboat. Pushes us at hull speed no problem! I have the larger batterey and have yet to run it down. When I purchased my motor I was unaware of any other viable options on the market. So far it has been wonderful! Electric outboards are the only way to go! I just aquired an iflatable dinghy for our larger boat, so the Torqeedo will be pressed into service there too. Thanks for all your insight on the products you use. Very helpful!
Mitchell
sv Sonata San Francisco Bay, California
best sailing channel imho. what will be especially interesting to follow will be how the very tricked out electrical do-hickeys fare and how Mads troubleshoots them.. those control boxes below the floor in the port aft section worry me..
Thanks for sharing!..John
Nice I was looking at the electric outboards 🍻🍻😎
Great video as always. We bought an eprop plus last year and it is fantastic. But I have a longish walk to our dinghy to get out to our sailboat and the combined battery and lg still weighs enough. Then I discovered a ‘Kicker’ from thrustme.no this has the same power, much less range but weighs only 4.5Kgs! It’s as easy to use and as powerful as the big one and the range is enough to go to shore and back (charges easy on a dc system). I haven’t got them but they say they have add-on batteries. I think if I had known about this first - I would have just had this and extra batteries. As it is I have both 😜. Happy Sailing!
8:16 For a second there i thought that boat said "Marie Antoinette". Can you imagine sailing on a boat named that? You'd have to hold it for a long time since it has no head.
We have the Spirit+, it is awesome with no worries especially compared to the 2-stroke
To give up a little speed to get rid of the noise ,smell and maintenance of a gas motor is a win . The only thing I'd invest in is the extra battery just in case you want to travel farther without the worry an stress of being able to get back to the boat. My wife and I wish you both all the happiness you can have in your marriage. We have been so lucky to be best friends and love each other unconditionally an we hope you can have the same .
God bless you both with a life of wonderful experiences.
Nice video
So exciting
I have the same ePropulsion outboard and I bought the 12v/solar charger it’s faster that using the mains block.
Note - if the prop is out of the water it will only spin slowly when unloaded.
What's there not to like? Always fun and informative content so thanks! Seems like there are more and more junk rigged boats popping up such as Tapatya and SV Seeker.
Seeker isn't really a boat, it is merely a boat-shaped object. It does seem to be floating still -but then again so does a turd...
How is that bus automatic transmission going Doug :D :D :D
Oh I like the no glasses look. 😊
You're dropping the ball guys. I would have expected you to have your Sail Life logo on your main sail. You most likely could have gotten it as a free add on with your plug in the video.
Furling mainsail + large arch with solar panels = switch on the engine when going windward. OK if engine is correctly noise insulated and if using tradewinds most of the time.
Sailing Solianis (sp) has used one of these for a while. The E outboard.
Great video's
It would be very interesting to see an unbiased comparison review of both ePropulsion and Torqeedo equivalent models. Looking at the published specifications, they are similar. I think it is good that the two companies have each other as competitors. We customers will benefit.
I have always been interested in electric motors in vehicles and boats. I started experimenting with a Minn Kota Endura 50 on my O'Day 19. It was reasonable but had only 3 knots top speed.
I have been using a Torqeedo Cruise 2.0 on my Capri 22 since 2011. I added a Torqeedo Travel 1003 in September 2017 when I had a lead acid battery problem yet still had some sailing/racing events left for the year. I switched to lithium for the next season.
I found that the selection criteria and speed/distance stats that Torqeedo publishes have been very accurate. The Cruise 2.0 drove the 2250 lbs Capri to hull speed (6 knots) and comfortably handled the 20 knot+ headwinds. The Travel 1003 easily drove the Capri to 5 knots. The Travel is now relegated to the O'Day 19 and an inflatable dinghy.
Both my wife and I enjoy the quiet when motoring with an electric drive. Two seasons ago we purchased a Catalina 310. It has a diesel. I wonder how long it will be until she will long for the quiet of an electric motor in the 310.
Athena isn't even finished yet, and Mads is already talking about a bigger boat.
You will want to pay attention to tides and currents with that out board. In the Pacific North West where I live you'll often find yourself moving several knots backward with the motor pinned forward. I suspect that you'll run into similar situations through out the world.
We have one, on the Piscataqua River and agree. We move closer to the shore and it is not much of an issue then other than slower travel. It works for us.
We once got stuck in New York City on the Hudson river at the 79th Street Marina dinghy dock and could not get back to our boat at the mooring ball because of the current. We had to wait hours for the tide to change until we could go back with our laundry, and by that time it was well after dark plus we had not prepared with any jackets or a light.
A dinghy needs to go about 5 knots for a cruising tender.
Sails look great. Might need something like a custom piece of rubber for where your lines lead through. I could see some splashing with a port sea
So unusual to see Ava without thick glasses. I guess the trip to Hungary with sister was not all about seeing Budapest, but getting eyes lasered affordably. Even more adorable now.
Lots of love from Brisbane Australia. I was born very near Gosport. Hope to see you cruising if you come across the Pacific??
Precision sails do a good job. I have a set that are fantastic
'Emma-Fay'- is a Trident Warrior 40', which was converted to a junk rigged Schooner. Sold in south England, 2018-2019.
Correct. How do you come to know that?
@@StormSignal I went to the Junk Rig Association web page and searched for a Warrior. There was no names but the ship name and the previous owners account had been closed. The previous owner had stated that he mostly sailed it along the east and south coasts of England and had converted it in 2012 or there about.
@@hrothbertco4987 Clever man. I have a whole file on her. She is now called Bertha. You a JR member?
@@StormSignal No I'm not. Unfortunately I haven't sailed in decades. And I just found that 'Bertha' is up for sale again. Correction was sold recently.
@@hrothbertco4987 Yup. At a very ambitious asking price.
Dang those new sails look spiffy
It's funny; no seriously, Matts, it takes a while to get your humour but boy is it subtle... and then there's Eva pops up to add a sparkle and the glint of an eye knowing the pair of you are gonna zoom in the UA-cam stakes, not just as a go-to, 'how-to' UA-cam site, but as a place where the weekend ends with a broad smile and the world a better place. Apologies for the chapter but I rarely comment and, oh! Too much wine. Happy sailing.
I've been a service technician on these motors and most of the faults were user error. Thinking they could lift the whole engine out of the water with the handle or using the cable and connector like it was a steel pipe instead of a cable. The same people destroy their smartphone cables. Other than that, really sturdy!
Phone cables last hardly any time on a boat. Just too many things that grab and pinch them.
@@svbarryduckworth628
On the mains end of the cable.. I loop it back and use some electrical tape wrapped around (hope that makes sense) it takes the strain off the point where it goes into the hard plastic.
Also the mains sockets location is worth getting right.
As a commercial electrician and a full-time cruiser now for the past 5 years or so I have tried all the tricks. Phone charging cables are just very delicate and not up to the stresses of marine full-time use on a small boat.
Short of wrapping the cord up and stowing it EVERY time it is not being used it will eventually get pinched on something, be it the nav desk hinged lifting top, the bench seat hinged lifting top, something else tangling and pulling on it, lifting the berth cushions and yanking on them, or a million other things to tangle with a cord in a working boat.
The reality of a smart mobile device is that it needs to be charged often enough that it will spend as much time plugged in and charging as it does not plugged in. We have 12v lighter sockets all around the boat at all berths and workstations for Anker USB plugs. Cords are often dangling and don't.always get neatly hung up and out of the way. That is the reality of a working boat.
Junk rigs are so cool, I would love to know more about that boat
I chose an 1103 Torqeedo as it was lighter, broke into three parts for easier stowage and with my usage the battery capacity less important. I also preferred the technology behind the battery build and I liked the fact it was made in Germany, not China.
I also got the same ePropulsion to my dinghy and just love it... only problem is that you get the urge of peeing when you only hear the splashing water :):):)
I hope you left a note on the junk-rigged boat Love junk. The stove hood will be very interesting, It would be nice to suck out the grease while cooking, Looking forward to your time in France. Hope you still get to Ireland sometime :)
put a open top turning pulley behind the clutch then you could put the winch on the over side of the companionway if you had to
You could do with a power pack for emergency, back up & range for the dinghy.
Thanks for another good video, high tempo in the movie :) Wonderful with all the technology but I wonder what an incredibly big budget you seem to have. The electric motor seems nice but I wonder if you will not get tired quite quickly at 3knots. Very exciting to follow your continued journey and you who like technology as I think if you could see weather conditions, route planning, speed and power consumption online type.
Tore-Kee-Doe. And you should have gotten the model with regen so you could mount it on the transom of Athena when on passage for making electricity for that galley of yours
I know that you sorted the clutch, but on the point of ‘riveted items being permanently fixed in place’, I can suggest drilling the rivets out; starting with a small drill bit and getting bigger, effectively destroying the rivet. Then to replace the item just re-rivet.
Ava on the berth. 13:20
Mads: Now its time to take Ava for a spin ...
Me: 🤔😱
Mads: ... in the dinghy
Me: 😏
LOL I wasn't prepared Gone With The Wynns loves to place insert those word games.
When my dad junk rigged his Pierson 39-2, it became an absolute magnate for people that needed to know why and how and "What the heck!"
Pearson
I would have also gone for the epropultion - that weight business sounds alot at 2kg but when you think about it is pretty much in the region of the weight difference of a 4pk of beers... Despite not being a fanboy of Lithium due to the longterm environmental impacts - the fact you can refuel the dinghy from solar is a real game changer!! Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of what those two on Uma have done, but personally I wouldn't want my main engine dependant on sunshine.....
Surprised you didnt drill/fill/drill the deck. I also think you may find the new outboard too small in the wind.waves of an open bay.
I give a big thumbs up to our Torqedo electric outboard. I hear complaints that they fail after a year or so, but in every case I have seen the owners have been running the engine out of the water! Why you would do this is beyond me, but the engines certainly do not like it. Have fun.
13:22 And I was hoping for Matz his first inappropriate remarks. But no he's not taking her for a spin on the new bed linnen but in the new dinghy.
You may want to consider making a cover for the electric outboard. The display on my Torqueedo degraded rapidly with exposure to the sun.
He definitely need a custom cover, with BIG Sail Life logo on it (for both main sail and tender)
. I'm in awe every time I see the S/V Delos buddha flying.
Ohhhh! If Ava had the eye surgery. Please share as I need it too.
Will you be over drilling those holes and filling it with epoxy to waterproof the core?