HOW TO INSTALL TACK STRIP ON CONCRETE
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2017
- shows and explains how to install tack strip on concrete, along with a few helpful tips about what kind and size nails should be used and when.
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Here is a link for the super handy nail holder shown in the video
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Thank you very much. i had no idea there was such a perfect tack strip for my cement basement floor!!
Your tutorials are the best mate
Talking about the nails and holding the strip tight helped me, thanks!
Michael Silva OK I’m glad you got it figured out good good job
Thanks for the great detailed video! Feeling confident now.
G Man JR Awesome, good luck my friend
Awesome video, thank you!
Thank you for an informative video! The tips were helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks man, that was very helpful!
Thanks for the video. Very helpful!
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I did over 200’ of this today. It’s not as easy as you are making it look. Well done sir 👍🏼
Thank you sir , After you do enough of it you kind of get the feel of the concrete and you can decipher what size nails will hold in which concrete
Yeah. Especially swinging that hammer for a few hours. 💪
Great tips, thanks for the video mate.
You’re welcome
Dang that’s a good video. You are an excellent teacher 👍🏽
Kathryn Howard Thank you I really appreciate that
As a fellow carpet layer in Austalia, this is only doable if the concrete itself isn't too solid to actually take the nails. I've had numerous jobs where nails simply won't hammer into the floor because the sub-floor is too hard. And then you're forced to liquid nail (with tube glue) all the sticks in place and leave them 24 hours before stretching on
How about using a pneumatic powder driven tool for the nails in concrete?
Masters at work.
😀😀Thanks buddy
Thanks, really helpful
Great video thanks
Daniel Schoon Thank you sir
Great work, im used to nailing concrete gripper and will always use gripfil glue in addition to nailing, this will give much more hold down the years and prevents gripper rocking loose when fitting carpet
UK concrete is shocking at times
Yea nothing more frustrating
I was just going to post the same. Gripfil and nail every time 👍👍
nice work
Good video, but. The tack strip needs to be out 7/8” - 1” from drywall, to allow for baseboard. You don’t want the strip under the baseboard. It will be difficult to get out the next time carpet is installed and you will have to remove the baseboard to install new carpet anyway. The distance shown in this video is fine if base is in place. Also another tip. Leave a slight gap between every piece of tack strip. Concrete holds moisture, even in the driest climates. If you butt the wood tack strip to each piece, it will expand and pop the nails out of the concrete, because it doesn’t have room to move. Then the carpet will get wrinkles, because the stretch has failed.
if the old smoothedge holes are that close id say there was never a skirting board there but i do like the gap idea makes some sense
Yeah but if he puts the tack stirps 7/8 back from the wall it won't be installed right
@@michaelcawley2716 7/8” from the DRYWALL. Not from the baseboard. In the video there was no baseboard. You have to leave room for the baseboard. That way you are not trapping the carpet between the tack strip and baseboard. Hope this helps.
Great DIY video, yeah the gauge of nail is very important. Most tack strips nowadays come with thin nails NOT intended for concrete. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
HUSTLEHARD PARTYHARD ! Thank you sir and yup
They do, but you have to make sure you are buying concrete smoothedge and not timber smoothedge they both have different nails
You're making it look so easy. I have old 1977 concrete and nothing is getting in this crap. Gonna try your 5/8" nails
Thank you!
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I use a pole pounder or concrete nail driver is the proper name for it. Makes installing tackstrip a breeze, beats being on your hands and knees banging nails in!
I used to do it with a hammer. I bought a slam bar and I love it.
Gary Mcgarity Awesome, thank you for sharing
I took a side job working on a flooring team, mostly new construction. I must have tacked down a mile of tack strip in my first week. I never got the hang of tacking it on concrete. My knees hurt, my hands were hamburger from carelessness handling. I was glad to lay my hammer down and put that job behind me.
Rick S Yeah well I am not too proud to say this is a hard job floor covering is extremely hard on your body
ive been doing carpet for thirty years i reckon ive done enough to go around the world maybe a cocple of times
Fantastic video! You are a total pro. Just what I needed to learn. Thank you and that tool wow that's crazy neat. 🙂
Tiffany's Creations 😀Thank you, glad you enjoyed it
Thought I'd let you know that I ordered the exact same tool your using in this video to hold the nails in place.
I order one off amazon and it came today and It's awesome it's a very simple tool but dude!!!
I can't believe how easy this is going to make my life now!
If it wasn't for this video I would have never known.
thank you so much for that because over the years my hands have taken a beating trying to hold those nails in place and now it's like I've discovered 🔥fire🔥 for the first time 😂
I'm actually excited to use it😂😂
sausage man Well I got some good news for you I just spent my day today I’m doing this really awkward curved up round with the Carvery fireplace and Carvey tile in it and I got it all on video for you so it’ll take me a bit to get it together because it was so long of a video of it off to the point where my my battery went dead plus I got a bunch other video at today every stretching and stuff so I got a lot of footage today but I got that one room especially for you
If I can add my two cents, I would change your screen name/avatar because I, for one, won't take you seriously with a name like 'sausage'.
P.S. I would like to apologize when my wife was dying I was a Basket case thank you for being so nice to me during that time,I know I ask weird questions that don't pertain to what you guys are talking about, but I will forget if i don't do it when it cross my mind,
Darn drunk drivers
Lol. Thx you folks for taking the time to read my questions
SINCERLY Jack!
Condolences 🙏
keep ya chin up champ there s allways someone to talk to somewhere
Man I've said it before and I'll say it again you are a genius!!
Just when I thought I have seen all your tricks and tips with your videos and I come across this video.
All the years I've been hitting my fingers turning them black and blue trying to put extra nails in tack strip and your over there using that magnetic tool!!
I think I've found the same one as you on amazon so I'm definitely adding that to me tool box.
I'm going to give it a go holding the tack strip flat to the floor so the nails get a better bite to the concrete looks like a great tech tip.
Keep putting these videos up I've even had my customers notice and complement me on how good my work looks, all because I've been fitting like you. Thanks
sausage man Dude that is so awesome so glad your customers are noticing I don’t want to say I told you so but I told you so you do the quality work spend the extra time your customers will be more than satisfied and will recommend you to their friends good job man
FloorsbySouthernboys don't get a big head now!😂
you are right doing a job right is always the best way, to know that I've left a job "yeah" may of taken me 30minutes longer but I'm at home knowing I did everything I could to do the job right and that's a good feeling, especially when that customer has recommended me to another.
Even when I do a job now when a previous fitter has slashed the base board with his knife and because i now use my trimmer to cut the carpet I can't be blamed for that!!
I don't know what it's like where you guys are but in the UK people here like to moan about the smallest of things so it's always good to have your back covered!!
Keep your videos coming even do day to day jobs I enjoy watching a true craftsman at work. 👍
sausage man That is so awesome dude I’m glad that you have seen the light your business and your reputation will grow according to the job that you do couldn’t be prouder to make a difference like that in someone’s life thank you for taking this serious
FloorsbySouthernboys
dude I have children to feed so I have no choice.
But I'm so happy to meet a like minded individual that has a passion for his craft, I believe that people like us are a dying breed no body has passion anymore everything is built for speed and financial gain not for longevity! But on the plus side that's good for people like us.
Thank you for sharing you tips and tricks on UA-cam, most people would keep it to themselves but you've gone out of the way to put these videos up and share your skills that have taken you years to perfect. 👍
sausage man That’s awesome and if you keep up the good craftsmanship no matter if it takes longer like I said before customers will see you at appreciate it and recommend it and you will definitely see a difference in your clients and your clients attitude and everything you’re definitely gained from it
I generally drill and nail with aluminum nails or glue I do nail with my concrete tack strip nailer it's about 4 ft tall with a rod through it with a magnet on the end of the rod it works amazing you should get one works with wood as well and you don't have to worry about hitting the baseboards cuz you're not swinging anything
How much did it cost
Lol never new you could hammer in the nails. I was about to buy one of the .22 cal. Bullet guns haha. Thanks a lot
Yup
i do like the magnet thing . when the floor is like that ill sometimes use some quick glue (pu) i think just to make sure eva whacked your finger doing that i did once edging along a brick wall and there was a chunky brick sticking out deflected my hammer straight to my thumb ,fainted recoverd put some underlay and masking tape on it and kept on edging ... keep it tight
😯😮😂😂
Great video, it really helped this DIY cowboy fitter😅 The only problem I have is the section under the radiator, where you can't swing the hammer properly. Guess I'll have to result to using adhesive there.
Yeah that’s your only option for stuff like that
I had concrete that any length nail would work so out with my Hilti drill and aluminum nails. Your nailing some nice concrete
all concrete can be nailed into if its not broke all up
my concrete breaks up.. Ive tried 3/4" and 1" nails. Local stores don't carry the 1/2" nails
What would you call that nail magnet tool? I'm a few years into learning home renovation and this would be really cool to use with the smaller wood nails.
also, well explained man. I didn't need to install tack strip on anything. I was just curious and this nailed it. ha.. ha..
Been watching your videos. They are awesome! What is your take on bringing the tack strip out 3/4" on new construction (before the baseboard is installed)? I have removed carpet where the baseboard is on top of the tack strip and it's a bit tough to try and remove the old strip without damaging the baseboard or trying to stretch new carpet on the existing strip. I think about whoever might be replacing the carpet in 10 or 15 years. Thanks
Thank you sir appreciate it and yeah I definitely agree with you what you said about the tax strip, that’s a real good idea to pull it out a little bit instead of placing it under the baseboard
Great instructional video. I have a problem maybe you can help. I need to fix a problem a carpet installer did to our bedroom carpet at a transition on concrete floor from a bedroom to a bathroom. Instead of going straight across he added a 2 inch lip of carpet into the bathroom area. Wife doesn't like it! He secured the carpet with a standard wood grabber with metal folded over the grabber that he used to fold the carpet under. I need to move the grabber with metal back 2 inches so the carpet will be flush with the bedroom wall on both sides. I removed the wood grabber/metal back but it will not tack down in the new location. Do I need to buy a new wood grabber/metal strip, just new nails or what? How would you approach this type situation? Thanks for your help in advance.
Carl Maddox yes sir new zbar witch is the metal and new tack strip witch is the grabber and a few extra 10 gauge 5/8 nails,
Can you do a video of installing carpet?
Tons of them
can you suggest what I would use if I am installing this over a stuck on floor? Sticky tiles from years gone by. I'd just as soon leave them there as to remove them, if possible.
You can use the same tech strip you might just have to use longer nails, but do you want to definitely use 10 gauge nails
What is meant by matching up?
Where can I get the nail tool?👀
All you need to do is put all your nail in a coffee can 5/8 3/4&1/2" put some water in it and get your nails all rusted they will Grab the concrete much quicker i don't care if its red concrete green doesn't matter it works Great I've been doing that
Way for 30 yrs,
Cool
Can you use construction adhesive on these tack strips if you give the adhesive enough time to cure?
Yes, it will work better. Also if you cut the tack strip in pieces about a foot long.
Hi great videos think I've watched most of them! What's the name of the magnetic nail holder? I can find a crain one on Amazon but that's £ 49 in the UK!
thomas samples That’s it, it’s made by Crain
@@FloorsbySouthernboys cheers for that! Bin in the flooring trade for a year now got to say I've found your videos really helpful while Still learning
thomas samples Thank you for sharing that buddy, appreciate it
That concrete looks soft.
I use the wider tack strip. From an experienced installers perspective its not worth my time messing with skinny smooth edge and slowing down the rate at which I'm putting nails in. Sometimes I rest my hammer on the concrete floor just behind the nail I'm going to hit to level my swing out first, if the concrete is hard as. Also ear muffs, that noise will make you deaf in no time, wood or concrete.
NzRasengan 😬😮
Takes some skill to handle a hammer like you do. I’ve built a lot of things but can’t swing that well lol. My fingers wish I was better by now 😂
THANKS
Thank you! I thought I had to use a ram set. :( just have to replace small section in a doorway. Now I can finish it.
Andy Middaugh 👍
Should it be out farther if your putting up trim?
About a quarter inch plus the thickness of your trim
I was thinking of doing the same thing in my basement floor its tile down there now do i have to remove the vinyl tile?
if its only one layer of tile you will be fine , if its two or more your nails wont get a good enough bite on the concrete to hold a stretch in carpet
Thanks for the quick response its only one layer.
yw
Where did you get that nail bags from
Jake Minty Big D‘s floor covering supplies but you can also order them from tools 4 flooring
i have done handy man work around my house and very good at it but I suck at hammering. I can't hammer a nail consistently without missing or bending the nail. I have zero confidence when nailing something.
Footballer10K 😮 And most of the time that is the issue, confident, even with myself if I get nervous or scared say if I am hammering next to a tile or something really nice I will be nervous and not swing my hammer as I would if I was jjust nailing up against a regular wall and I will usually not sink the nail right even though there is no difference in the nail, I have to put that out of my head and just swing regularly and everything goes smooth
Nice work. By any chance do you know the name of that magnetic tool so I can look it up on amazon?
there is a link for it in the description
Any issues with using Concrete nails instead of acoustical (spiral) nails on a 50 year concrete floor with 1/2" gypcrete leveler over it? Glue instead?
Yes, you will need to primer it once maybe twice and then glue the tack strip with construction adhesive. Gyp Crete is to dry and powdery for adhesive if you do not primer first.
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Makes sense now. After looking into it. i found that the spiral nails are 1-1/4" long so they would probably just not go through concrete, and they were designed that long for 2" thick gypcrete pours in commercial floors. Glad i didnt buy a box of those first! Glue it is (with primer), with a few concrete nails to hold it a bit.
Sometimes multiple light taps work better.
Sometimes but not often
In a diff video the guy brought his tack strips away from the wall about 5 inches. Which is correct plz?
Ally Bamma I’m sure you’re not talking about one of my videos, that is definitely incorrect putting it 5 inches away, I use my index finger as a gauge the thickness of my fingertips touching the floor and then the tack strip touching my finger, which is about a 1/4 to 3/16 of an inch From the wall
FloorsbySouthernboys ok thanks , yeh I said the guy , it wasn't you or anything to do with you. Thankyou 👏😀
Ally Bamma you’re welcome
I wish you would expand upon your video, because every time I try and drive concrete tackless strips into concrete it never works and I end up having to glue it down. The only time I can get those nails to hold to concrete is if I can knock it in on a single hit, which normally I cannot do. Otherwise it just damages the concrete and the strip just pops up.
bilskro OK I asked to have a couple jobs coming up next week that I need to tack strip so I will do a more in-depth video if possible thank you for the recommendation and I’m sorry this one was not very thorough and the instructions and explaining
I am a property manager so I don't install everyday, so maybe there is a learning curve to hammer in those nails. I have tried every thing I can think of to just be able to hammer those nails in and it never works for me, so I end up gluing or using a concrete drill bit and aluminum nails to fasten them down. I was thinking of investing in that Gundlach stand up nail drive and seeing if that worked. But when I try what you did and just hold the tack strip and hit the nail with a hammer, my success rate is around 10% a best. If there was a reasonable priced tool that allowed me to just be able to quickly fastened those strips to concrete without drilling or gluing I would buy it in a second.
bilskro I understand, Unfortunately I think it’s just a matter of practice but I can give you a few more pointers or tips on things that might help , I’ll put together another video of this coming week on the subject
I just installed carpet in a large room that I had to seam. This time I went and bought shorter concrete nails and I was actually able to hammer them in. BTW bought that magnetic punch tool, which is great. Not sure if it was the concrete or the shorter nails that allowed me to be able to hammer them in without busting up the concrete.
The issue I had this time was I could not get a perfect seam no matter what I treid. I would request you make a Very DETAILED video on how to get a perfect seam with Polyester plush carpet for a 16' seam. First let me tell you what I did.
I cut the carpet using a row finder, as that is the way I hear others say to properly do it without damaging fibers that occurs when you straight cut the carpet from the back. I used different row finding tools. I even tried to reconstitute the original row spacing by switching blades. In fact I used the same tools as shown in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/J5MoJXvkjV8/v-deo.html
I tried row cutting 4 times on each side and I never could get it to not jump a row no matter what I did. So I went with the best least jump I could and tried to straight cut areas that were off. Also the rows are not straight. If I use a straight edge on the back those rows are not straight, so if you cut along the row you are not getting a straight cut. I can take a picture of this and show it.
The problem is when I put the 2 carpet to be seamed when I fit one section another section of carpet peaks up due to it being slightly longer. I took my time and pushed the carpet such that the backing of each side was touching, but not overlapping as I ran the seaming iron.
I will take a picture of how it came out and post it. It is not horrible, but I wanted it to be perfectly unnoticeable.
The only way I can see to get the 2 pieces of carpet to align perfectly would be to straight cut both carpets on the back over 16' and I thought that might be difficult to do and get it perfect.
bilskro I have a ton of videos on seaming have you looked at them, maybe there is something in those that could help you, carpet is not made perfectly so anytime you Row cut it will not be perfectly straight, you will have to work with the carpet as you’re saying it together by pushing it Apart and pulling it in as you go m.ua-cam.com/play/PLTexTOxiUK8_MSjjBeLE0HZII95Z5IPD-.html Maybe these videos will help
1/2 inch nails, if the 5/8 will not drive.. Let hammer do the work.. I take a 6 inch piece of strip, take out pins and use it to keep strip held down while I hammer, and when there is no base I hold it back an inch and 1/4, and I only use magnet for nap lock
Sounds like a good idea
What brand of tack strip is that
carpet guy 1970 Power hold, if you watch this video I show the box so you can see what kind and what it looks like. ua-cam.com/video/NBaMRBrxmQ4/v-deo.html
Where can I find the half inch nails? My concrete is very hard and busting up?
Farris Holyfield I’m not sure what part of the country you in but if there is a flooring supply store in your area you can probably find them there, the box stores usually don’t have the 1/2” they usually only have the 5/8”
Farris Holyfield www.tools4flooring.com/premier-pfn-1458-1-2-10-gauge-concrete-nails-5-lb-bag.html
FloorsbySouthernboys thank you! And thanks for the response!
When I do mine keep breaking concrete and or just pull right out easy i may need to do wood rod way
esmokebaby Do you have the proper tack strip
@@FloorsbySouthernboys idk but I fingerd it out I switched to the smale 10 gauge one 5/8 I think and they work until I get to a broken spot lol
esmokebaby 👍At that point it needs to be glued
@@FloorsbySouthernboys iam having trouble with metal transition trim gluing seems my best option do you think it will hold without any screws
What kind of kneepads do you wear?
John gleason They are made by crane you can actually see them in this video I just have to Velcro straps they don’t have any hard pieces of them, completely fabric that’s why I like them
I love those knee pads
Screw that if I have some trouble. Out comes the hammer drill!!!
George Voikos I understand, it is a rare occasion that I have issues with it and if I do I will usually glued it down, once you get the feel of different types of concrete you can kind of figure out what size nails won’t work after the first piece of tack strip
Hammer drill 7/8 aluminum pins if you're having problems.😎
The advice I read was use a dowel like a Rawl plug and drill, stick the appropriate size dowel in and then pin to that
Jet tack , no hammer or loud drill. It's pricey but coming from a Commercial flooring guy it's easier to me. Fuzzy side up!
Just use plan smoothedge and a nail gun much quicker and easier
God how long is it going to be before this guy puts one into the concrete?
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Why do you choose to hand nail over Whamming?
Larry TerHaar I am by no means trying to be rude but I think it’s just the way that professionals do it, someone that is not too familiar with the trade my choose to use a ram set gun, if that is what you’re talking about
FloorsbySouthernboys
I am by no means trying to be rude either I can see that you are a professional. Many of your techniques are exactly what I was taught about 10 years back. So I'm just asking your preference in hand nailing over what I call a "whammy bar" which I personally have found it more efficient aswell as it seems to do just as good a job!
Larry TerHaar I know what you’re talking about now, I have just never tried one
After my extensive Google research I figured out that is called a standing concrete nail driver it's basically a huge Slide Hammer with a magnetic tip. I however cannot find out how to add a picture to these comments and the only video on UA-cam I see if somebody using it really don't know what they're doing lol.
FloorsbySouthernboys they work great easy on the thumbs I know what you mean by it is very important to hold the tack strip tight to the concrete will putting in the nails the slide hammer allows you to put down force on the strip will raising the inner shaft and driving the mail and pretty good. I think the most overrated part of putting tack strip on concrete is the different size nails you have to be able to read the concrete and pick the correct size nail I know many of experience installers that carry one size renal and struggle to get tack strip to set correctly! If you ever do try one be sure to do a video of it I'd love to know the opinion of someone with your experience and skill!
Gundlach 870 Stand up Concrete Nail Driver.. you'll thank me later! 🤙
my nails keep on bending and not sticking to the concrete
Prime the the gripper area around the room then use gripfil evo stick or a quick setting adhesive mate
did you use concrete nails those tracks come with nails for timber floors and concrete timber floor nails will bend on concrete
Watching at 5:00 in 3D would scare the #@!% out of me
NobleNobbler 😂
Nails keep busting... please help
Omar Campos The nails are use our 10 gauge nails and depending on the concrete you will want to use half-inch or a five eights which is most common or 3/4 very rarely 1 inch
Hammer drill carbide drill bit 7/8. aluminum pins can find the proper supplies at any flooring supply store.😎👍 only if all else is failing you.
Use grippfil evo stick or a quick setting adhesive...cut your gripper into small strips say 6 inches, remove nails and stick the gripper down. Use primer before applying glue around the edges of room. WARNING ⚠️ IN SOME OLD PROPERTIES IN THE UK GAS PIPES ,HOT WATER PIOES,ELECTRIC CABLES COULD BE BURIED NEAR THE SURFACE OF CONCRETE .ALWAYS GLUE IF IN DOUBT
Just PL the strips
I always smash my fingers on the tack strips lol
9 mins to talk about how to hit a nail in. by god you love the sound of your own voice
😂😂
maybe but you rarely leave a video without all the info you need
have you ever hit your thumb? I feel like that hammer in particular would really hurt. lol
t money Yes sir, one time so hard that it blew the end of my thumb out
same
@@FloorsbySouthernboys yes looks like road kill
@@jb-es5zj 😮
ALWAYS USE A WOODEN HANDLE HAMMER!!!
why
@@jb-es5zj you’ll blow your arm out otherwise
That might work, it's not something I would bank on. Half the time there are rocks in there that you can't see. How are you going to nail through a rock? Other times there is a sealant that hardens the whole thing. Just bite the bullet, clean the area good, use some adhesive, and wait the prescribed time.
I’ve done this method for over eight years, very few times did I have to glue
@@FloorsbySouthernboys my previous bosses said the same thing. Then I would go give their smooth edge a little bump and everything would pop off. Their smooth edge was worse than mine.
@@thomasolson7447 😮 I power stretch everything, that is definitely not the case
Why are you using a carpenters hammer that's wrong right from the get go you're supposed to use a hammer hatchet I have a redwood 30oz hatchet to cut the strip
I have had this hammer for almost 20 years, I’m not a lumberjack, I don’t use a hatchet LOL
He says not to choke up on it but he chokes up on it 😂
Don't wear an automatic watch while using the magnetic nail holder.
please explain
Com on bro it should be just 2 times
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imagine if he accidently hit his finger
I definitely have and it’s not pretty
so have I and not much fun
I stink at driving tax dripping concrete
Make it easier on yourself spend the money on a RAMJET
I hate watching these videos! Atleast make it look like your struggling alittle! I'm 9 strips deep and only one of the nails held!
😢
aluminum drives. 7/8 and 5/8. 1/8 bit special made for concrete. tools4flooring
Great video thank you!
yw thank you