Well, a lot of people liked SCUD Race, but that never got that one a release outside the arcades. Daytona USA had a pretty hard time being ran with the Saturn, trying to put Daytona 2 on the Saturn would've been a graphical and frame rate disaster. By the time the Dreamcast came out, I think Sega just went with the original Daytona USA for a port as it already had more tracks to its name thanks to Championship Circuit Edition, plus the Dreamcast came out a full year before this, so it was a bit late for a port, plus I don't think there was that big of a demand for this version over the original. After Daytona USA on the Dreamcast, we haven't had a new game beside the arcade port on the PS3 and Xbox 360, I think if they were to release Daytona USA 2 on a system, it would've been Dreamcast, but that eventually was killed off by the PS2, so there's quite a few reasons why it wasn't released, but maybe there's a port waiting for us in the future... Who knows
+Pixel Power Gamer - Well, the arcade version of the original Daytona USA game also did have superior graphics and a very smooth frame rate, unlike its Sega Saturn port, so you'd think SEGA would have done the same exact thing with this game for the Sega Saturn port by reducing its graphics and frame rate properly because then, it would have been convenient especially for SEGA fans who don't even have a local arcade near them (with the original arcade version of this game inside). I also would have loved to see PC, PlayStation 1 and Sega Dreamcast ports for this game for the same reason. I wonder if they also would have been willing to release it for the PlayStation 2, Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, and as digital download versions on PlayStation Network and Xbox Live for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, just like the first game? I remember playing the original arcade version of this game at Chuck E. Cheese's many years ago, so either way, it would have been so awesome to see, purchase and play home versions of it because it's really fantastic!
I have many theories that resulted in Daytona USA 2 being screwed over, starting with the most prominent one: * Daytona 1 and 2 were the Japanese take on NASCAR. They were released primarily to celebrate NASCAR's brief stint in Japan during the late 90's. See the Coca-Cola 500 of '90, taking place at Twin Ring Motegi oval course. In Daytona 2, the driver model was clearly meant to resemble Dale Earnhardt Sr., considered to be the GOAT driver of NASCAR. Almost all NASCAR fans consider the late 90's to be the Golden Age of the sport. SEGA game designers traveled to Florida to visit Daytona International Speedway and Orlando's theme parks (particularly Universal Studios) for inspiration for two of the game's courses. However, NASCAR just straight up went off a cliff in the 00's with NASCAR leaving Japan, Dale Sr's death, rule changes (particularly the Chase "playoff" format), the disdain for the Car of Tomorrow, and dwindling ratings. Combine that with the death of the Dreamcast, SEGA's ensuing panic and financial losses, and waning interest of "Americana" culture (rock music, fast cars, etc.) and you have a perfect storm of Daytona 2 being buried and forgotten. Sega still trots out Daytona 1 every now and then for its memes (mainly thanks to Takenobu Mitsuyoshi's vocals) and popularity among old arcade diehards who still remember playing it and but that's about it. * Daytona 2 is a NASCAR game. NASCAR is especially disliked among non-NASCAR fans for "being redneck" and "turning left again and again" and "only popular because of wrecks." A lot of arcade goers didn't give it a chance for that reason. * Daytona 2 was too difficult for the arcade crowd. Consider the popularity of shallow Midway/Raw Thrills racers like Cruis'n World and Fast & Furious. Players would rather just stomp the gas pedal and bounce off walls harmlessly than play a racing game that punished them for crashing. Popular video games have dumbed down their general difficulty over time, preferring to help aid the player to victory rather than demand practice and payoff over numerous playthroughs. * SEGA secretly hated Daytona 2 because it was less profitable than the immensely successful Daytona 1. No kidding right? It's hard for any sequel to out-do the level of success that Daytona 1 had. This is why Daytona 2 had exorbitant production value to exceed Daytona 1's level, including network play with up to 16 players. SEGA hasn't been kind to game series that have made less money than projected--the Shenmue games being the most obvious example. * SEGA lost the source code to many games during the post-Dreamcast fallout, perhaps including Daytona 2. SEGA won't say which games, so it's a complete mystery if they still have it. Since rebuilding games from scratch takes more time than using existing source code, SEGA didn't think the effort of rebuilding Daytona 2 was worth it. Also consider the brain drain from SEGA at the time. They didn't have the same team to remake Daytona 2 even if they wanted to. * SEGA wanted to keep the Daytona games arcade-only as much as possible. Daytona Championship USA demonstrates this fact. However, there were multiple reasons that merited Daytona 1 getting multiple ports: Daytona 1 was just that damn popular. SEGA's Model 1/2 arcade games, especially Virtua Fighter, spurred a need for 3D graphics in the 90's gaming market, hence Daytona 1 got a Saturn port. SEGA was also poking around with releasing PC games at the time, forging a relationship with Microsoft, hence a Daytona 1 PC release too. As for the XB1/PSN ports, those were done because the original Daytona 1 arcade cabinets were dying off and SEGA could profit off the nostalgia. As you know, arcades have made a steady decline since the 00's. One of SEGA's best strength was in their arcade games, and those went away with public trends. SEGA sold off their Gameworks and Joypolis arcades. Daytona 2 can't make a comeback if there's no arcades to play them in. * Daytona 2 (and most of the arcade racing genre in general) is in a weird no-man's land with no real demographic to thrive off of. Arcade racers like Daytona 2 have physics which loosely follow real-world driving physics, requiring proper cornering, braking, etc. but with drifting to make it more engaging. The "car guy" demographic doesn't like arcade racers because they aren't realistic enough. They prefer real-world simulators like Gran Turismo, Forza, iRacing, Real Racing, etc. The "gaming" demographic doesn't like arcade racers because they are too technical for most. They prefer simple racers (Mario Kart), social racers (Forza Horizon), or wreck-em-up empowerment games (Burnout). No room for arcade racers to thrive. * Driving games are usually forerunners (AKA "tech demos") for new tech, only to be usurped by other genres as devs improve on the tech. Some of the first ever video games (280 ZZZAP, Sprint) and 3D video games (Battlezone, Hard Drivin', Stunt Race FX) were racing games. It's much easier to render rigid objects (like automobiles) than living things like humans. Driving games were used as the first "simulators" used by government, military, and professional drivers. Virtua Racing was specifically designed as one of the first Model 1 games because race cars are much easier to recreate than humans. The human models in Virtua Racing and Daytona 1 looked like puppets. But as humans became easier to render and more lifelike, focus shifted towards games with human protagonists. Artists would rather work on games with humans/animals/monsters instead of cars. Driving games eventually took a backseat as other genres claimed most of driving games' initial interest. SEGA heroes Yu Suzuki and Toshihiro Nagoshi were responsible for OutRun and Daytona USA, but they've moved on to Shenmue and Yakuza respectively. * Daytona 2 was really a bad game and we're blinded by nostalgia? I personally disagree, I think Daytona 2 is one of the best games ever made, and it's a shame that very few games have been released in similar vein since then. I weep for the racing game genre. Also worth mentioning that SCUD Race is based off the BPR Global GT series which ran from '94 to '96 before being transformed to the FIA GT Championship. BPR's brief stint meant that a SCUD Race release would be illogical without making heavy altercations to the source material. The Porsche 911 and Ferrari F40 from SCUD Race were shown as models in a Dreamcast technical demo, but that's as far as SEGA got with releasing it to the Dreamcast.
@Federico Sacramone True, Ferrari F355 Challenge is realistically good (3 Monitors, 4 Buttons for controlling the speed, brake, and traction, and changing gear in the Steer)
+Wesley C - I remember doing the same thing when I was a kid, along with the original arcade version of "18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker," which _did_ have console ports, but no PC port. Ah, the memories.
I remember playing this game at Chuck E. Cheese's many years ago! I wish they ported it to the PC, Sega Saturn, Nintendo 64, PlayStation 1, Sega Dreamcast, etc. How come the race announcer's voice clips aren't playing at their normal volume, though? That's really strange. Nevertheless, awesome gameplay video!
none is better than....ROLLLLINNG STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART
Easter egg at daytona usa i feel like you have to press the start button to make the finish/goal light make quotes. Quote examples: Go to hell Error Hello Thats all i know.
+SuchWowStudios Yes - Dennis St. James. Different composer though; Naofumi Hataya was responsible for the Sega Rally, NiGHTs and original Daytona 'style' if that makes sense.
Me too. I've played this game in SM Manila and used the Scorpio Plasma Batteries Normal Level car when I was in highschool. I miss playing this game this year because of the pandemic due to the arcades got closed down.
You could perhaps use the Phantom Car for better times, of course on Manual Transmission. The Scorpio isn't as good as the straights as opposed to the Phantom.
I like it how the Easy and Hard level cars look like a '98 Chevy Monte Carlo NASCAR racecar where as the Normal level car and Hornet look like they're trying to go for the Pontiac Grand Prix look with the nose.
You could perhaps use the Phantom Car for better times, of course on Manual Transmission. The Scorpio isn't as good as the straights as opposed to the Phantom.
One of the reason i want to build an HTPC not only powerful enough to run StepMania and PhaseShift at 1080p but also for Model 3 games as well ! I want to play Daytona USA 2 and Scud Race on my 32 inches TV !
the original arcade version had amazing graphics that could compete to any game today. how can that be possible? this emulation is far from the original great graphics.
:) this is the game that we need on psn and xbox live
this is pure arcade fun and iconic and original!
loving it
maybe but who knows how people change their mind
kris lambert The Original Daytona USA is available on both actually :D
yes yes I have it on ps3 and also had it before on model 2 emu :)
thanks anyway
It would have been even cooler if they had also had the 3 tracks from Daytona USA 1, but yes, this is the best Daytona ever
dude you're not gonna believe this
Closing in close to 20 years since this came out and the mystery still remains why was this over-looked in releasing on the home-consoles....
Well, a lot of people liked SCUD Race, but that never got that one a release outside the arcades. Daytona USA had a pretty hard time being ran with the Saturn, trying to put Daytona 2 on the Saturn would've been a graphical and frame rate disaster. By the time the Dreamcast came out, I think Sega just went with the original Daytona USA for a port as it already had more tracks to its name thanks to Championship Circuit Edition, plus the Dreamcast came out a full year before this, so it was a bit late for a port, plus I don't think there was that big of a demand for this version over the original. After Daytona USA on the Dreamcast, we haven't had a new game beside the arcade port on the PS3 and Xbox 360, I think if they were to release Daytona USA 2 on a system, it would've been Dreamcast, but that eventually was killed off by the PS2, so there's quite a few reasons why it wasn't released, but maybe there's a port waiting for us in the future... Who knows
and then they dont bother releasing this game on current console
Add this and virtua fighter 3..(to not being on any console aside from dreamcast..)
+Pixel Power Gamer - Well, the arcade version of the original Daytona USA game also did have superior graphics and a very smooth frame rate, unlike its Sega Saturn port, so you'd think SEGA would have done the same exact thing with this game for the Sega Saturn port by reducing its graphics and frame rate properly because then, it would have been convenient especially for SEGA fans who don't even have a local arcade near them (with the original arcade version of this game inside). I also would have loved to see PC, PlayStation 1 and Sega Dreamcast ports for this game for the same reason. I wonder if they also would have been willing to release it for the PlayStation 2, Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, and as digital download versions on PlayStation Network and Xbox Live for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, just like the first game? I remember playing the original arcade version of this game at Chuck E. Cheese's many years ago, so either way, it would have been so awesome to see, purchase and play home versions of it because it's really fantastic!
I have many theories that resulted in Daytona USA 2 being screwed over, starting with the most prominent one:
* Daytona 1 and 2 were the Japanese take on NASCAR. They were released primarily to celebrate NASCAR's brief stint in Japan during the late 90's. See the Coca-Cola 500 of '90, taking place at Twin Ring Motegi oval course. In Daytona 2, the driver model was clearly meant to resemble Dale Earnhardt Sr., considered to be the GOAT driver of NASCAR. Almost all NASCAR fans consider the late 90's to be the Golden Age of the sport. SEGA game designers traveled to Florida to visit Daytona International Speedway and Orlando's theme parks (particularly Universal Studios) for inspiration for two of the game's courses.
However, NASCAR just straight up went off a cliff in the 00's with NASCAR leaving Japan, Dale Sr's death, rule changes (particularly the Chase "playoff" format), the disdain for the Car of Tomorrow, and dwindling ratings. Combine that with the death of the Dreamcast, SEGA's ensuing panic and financial losses, and waning interest of "Americana" culture (rock music, fast cars, etc.) and you have a perfect storm of Daytona 2 being buried and forgotten. Sega still trots out Daytona 1 every now and then for its memes (mainly thanks to Takenobu Mitsuyoshi's vocals) and popularity among old arcade diehards who still remember playing it and but that's about it.
* Daytona 2 is a NASCAR game. NASCAR is especially disliked among non-NASCAR fans for "being redneck" and "turning left again and again" and "only popular because of wrecks." A lot of arcade goers didn't give it a chance for that reason.
* Daytona 2 was too difficult for the arcade crowd. Consider the popularity of shallow Midway/Raw Thrills racers like Cruis'n World and Fast & Furious. Players would rather just stomp the gas pedal and bounce off walls harmlessly than play a racing game that punished them for crashing. Popular video games have dumbed down their general difficulty over time, preferring to help aid the player to victory rather than demand practice and payoff over numerous playthroughs.
* SEGA secretly hated Daytona 2 because it was less profitable than the immensely successful Daytona 1. No kidding right? It's hard for any sequel to out-do the level of success that Daytona 1 had. This is why Daytona 2 had exorbitant production value to exceed Daytona 1's level, including network play with up to 16 players. SEGA hasn't been kind to game series that have made less money than projected--the Shenmue games being the most obvious example.
* SEGA lost the source code to many games during the post-Dreamcast fallout, perhaps including Daytona 2. SEGA won't say which games, so it's a complete mystery if they still have it. Since rebuilding games from scratch takes more time than using existing source code, SEGA didn't think the effort of rebuilding Daytona 2 was worth it. Also consider the brain drain from SEGA at the time. They didn't have the same team to remake Daytona 2 even if they wanted to.
* SEGA wanted to keep the Daytona games arcade-only as much as possible. Daytona Championship USA demonstrates this fact. However, there were multiple reasons that merited Daytona 1 getting multiple ports: Daytona 1 was just that damn popular. SEGA's Model 1/2 arcade games, especially Virtua Fighter, spurred a need for 3D graphics in the 90's gaming market, hence Daytona 1 got a Saturn port. SEGA was also poking around with releasing PC games at the time, forging a relationship with Microsoft, hence a Daytona 1 PC release too. As for the XB1/PSN ports, those were done because the original Daytona 1 arcade cabinets were dying off and SEGA could profit off the nostalgia.
As you know, arcades have made a steady decline since the 00's. One of SEGA's best strength was in their arcade games, and those went away with public trends. SEGA sold off their Gameworks and Joypolis arcades. Daytona 2 can't make a comeback if there's no arcades to play them in.
* Daytona 2 (and most of the arcade racing genre in general) is in a weird no-man's land with no real demographic to thrive off of. Arcade racers like Daytona 2 have physics which loosely follow real-world driving physics, requiring proper cornering, braking, etc. but with drifting to make it more engaging. The "car guy" demographic doesn't like arcade racers because they aren't realistic enough. They prefer real-world simulators like Gran Turismo, Forza, iRacing, Real Racing, etc. The "gaming" demographic doesn't like arcade racers because they are too technical for most. They prefer simple racers (Mario Kart), social racers (Forza Horizon), or wreck-em-up empowerment games (Burnout). No room for arcade racers to thrive.
* Driving games are usually forerunners (AKA "tech demos") for new tech, only to be usurped by other genres as devs improve on the tech. Some of the first ever video games (280 ZZZAP, Sprint) and 3D video games (Battlezone, Hard Drivin', Stunt Race FX) were racing games. It's much easier to render rigid objects (like automobiles) than living things like humans. Driving games were used as the first "simulators" used by government, military, and professional drivers. Virtua Racing was specifically designed as one of the first Model 1 games because race cars are much easier to recreate than humans. The human models in Virtua Racing and Daytona 1 looked like puppets.
But as humans became easier to render and more lifelike, focus shifted towards games with human protagonists. Artists would rather work on games with humans/animals/monsters instead of cars. Driving games eventually took a backseat as other genres claimed most of driving games' initial interest. SEGA heroes Yu Suzuki and Toshihiro Nagoshi were responsible for OutRun and Daytona USA, but they've moved on to Shenmue and Yakuza respectively.
* Daytona 2 was really a bad game and we're blinded by nostalgia? I personally disagree, I think Daytona 2 is one of the best games ever made, and it's a shame that very few games have been released in similar vein since then. I weep for the racing game genre.
Also worth mentioning that SCUD Race is based off the BPR Global GT series which ran from '94 to '96 before being transformed to the FIA GT Championship. BPR's brief stint meant that a SCUD Race release would be illogical without making heavy altercations to the source material. The Porsche 911 and Ferrari F40 from SCUD Race were shown as models in a Dreamcast technical demo, but that's as far as SEGA got with releasing it to the Dreamcast.
They predicted the Grid for NASCAR 2016.
Game has magic since 18 years.
Your telling me that one of the most American things is made some Japanese people? Weird
@Federico Sacramone True, Ferrari F355 Challenge is realistically good (3 Monitors, 4 Buttons for controlling the speed, brake, and traction, and changing gear in the Steer)
When I was a young, when I go to Chuck E. Cheese's to play that Daytona USA 2 arcade here.
Wesley C And the Philippines mall at the arcade room used Daytona USA 2 aswell
Wesley C Or the Great Yarmouth at the arcade room they used Daytona USA 2 aswell I think
+Wesley C - I remember doing the same thing when I was a kid, along with the original arcade version of "18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker," which _did_ have console ports, but no PC port. Ah, the memories.
Me too wesley
This brings me so many memories, and it's awesome that on where I live, there is a arcade that haves 2 Deluxe cabinets of DUSA2. Ahh...good times.
They still keep this in the small arcade in Brixham, one of my favourite things in that arcade!
I remember playing this game at Chuck E. Cheese's many years ago! I wish they ported it to the PC, Sega Saturn, Nintendo 64, PlayStation 1, Sega Dreamcast, etc. How come the race announcer's voice clips aren't playing at their normal volume, though? That's really strange. Nevertheless, awesome gameplay video!
none is better than....ROLLLLINNG STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART
rorring staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I think Daytona USA 2's soundtrack was way better than the og one in my opinion.
Heil Hydra.
Excellent game. Needs to be released On PlayStation network and Xbox live
Great idea! I also would have loved to see PC and old console ports of this game.
dude you're not gonna believe this
car sound legit
LMAO 3:32 look at what the sign on the start/finish line says!!!!
HELLO!
hello to you to start/finish sign
howdy start finish line
Easter egg at daytona usa i feel like you have to press the start button to make the finish/goal light make quotes.
Quote examples:
Go to hell
Error
Hello
Thats all i know.
@@snowydesertpenguin2206 Yep. I checked it on the Daytona USA TV Tropes page.
Is the singer in the music on that 1st stage there the same guy who sung the English Burning Rangers theme?
+SuchWowStudios
Yes - Dennis St. James. Different composer though; Naofumi Hataya was responsible for the Sega Rally, NiGHTs and original Daytona 'style' if that makes sense.
All I'm gonna say. The original version not in Power Edition of this track was beautiful.
Better music than the first one
agree
reb beach from the band winger, and whitesnake
ho my shitlord what a energy this game gives, fuck
Man When I Heard the opening song damn the nostalgia
This was my childhood
POWER EDITION DAYTONA.
We need this and super GT on steam please.
dude you're not gonna believe this
put this game in psn
I remember there was at least 8 of these in the arcade.....
Now they are all gone. ;(
0:40 mans just straight hops out of a tire
this is better than the new Dayton usa 3 game
2:42 does anyone see the beginners track secret
2:56 it's a bird it's a plane it's a CAR FLYING AT YO WINDSHIELD
i feel bad for that driver
Same
Ik im very late but that is a certified Ryan Newman moment
I used to play this game at first in the Tri Norma or Landmark mall in Philippines last week
Me too. I've played this game in SM Manila and used the Scorpio Plasma Batteries Normal Level car when I was in highschool. I miss playing this game this year because of the pandemic due to the arcades got closed down.
Also on keyboard? Me too, cant afford a driving wheel or a xbox controller.
And yet noobs still crash into the wall at turn 3
You could perhaps use the Phantom Car for better times, of course on Manual Transmission. The Scorpio isn't as good as the straights as opposed to the Phantom.
Needs more Blue skies
as I can download the game?
This game is better than Nascar 2018 xD
Is this a emulator? its seems the player is using a controller..
+TheExclusiveMan
I feel stupid for not knowing you could get this working on PC.
Is it easy to find or do you gotta go through crazy websites?
+vote4waifu Damn, another guy with big balls behind the internet.
+vote4waifu Damn, another guy with big balls behind the internet.
daveshen0880
What? I just said that -I- myself am stupid for not knowing you could run this, then asked where to find it safely.
i wonder if theres any arcade that lets you connect pc to the machine and record
links to download please
also. this is Nascar for real
Bumpy cars
This looks too advanced for 1998
Daytona USA For Nintendo 64 & PlayStation 1.
I want to learn how to get first place in all courses of this game
And a ton of practice and memorization
good at drifting
I saw this game at a little arcade at Grindlewald outside of Launceston Tasmania, but I didn't play it because I had no cash on me, let alone coin.
If you think it is copyright then flag it.
It looks the same as it did on 1994 you joking me
*1998
Is this running on the mega drive haha
nope its on master system 😉😉😉😂😂😂
wrong again, bucko. its running on the Magnavox Oddysey
sega
Copyright claimed. ;-)
:(*
What a horrible soundtrack!
No.
Nice bait dude.
This Daytona USA game sucks brick compare to Daytona USA 1!
+All Access Gaming If it's for the handling, find out Daytona USA 2 Power Edition and use the original Hornet car. That should solve your problems.
TheArcadeStriker No. It's not the handling.
I like it how the Easy and Hard level cars look like a '98 Chevy Monte Carlo NASCAR racecar where as the Normal level car and Hornet look like they're trying to go for the Pontiac Grand Prix look with the nose.
You could perhaps use the Phantom Car for better times, of course on Manual Transmission. The Scorpio isn't as good as the straights as opposed to the Phantom.
ever notice how the screen on the start/finish line says "HELLO!" as you go by lol
howdy
super race of DAYTONA USA 2
One of the reason i want to build an HTPC not only powerful enough to run StepMania and PhaseShift at 1080p but also for Model 3 games as well ! I want to play Daytona USA 2 and Scud Race on my 32 inches TV !
LUK AT DEH GRAFIX!!!!!
2:56 XD el auto que salio volando
2:57 He just hits the smoking green car who's getting flipping over that sends one of its wheels flying.
Takashi Fujimura lol
the original arcade version had amazing graphics that could compete to any game today. how can that be possible?
this emulation is far from the original great graphics.
zeuselrayo The graphics are very basic for today. They might pass for a mobile game
This is the original version...
how to drift
press brake and turn at the same time
Name of the song?
Slingshot
dududududududududududu SHIT SOUNDTRACK!!!!!! must go away, like if you know what i mean