Why Red Bull could be the BEST F1 team
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This may sound like a silly question to be asking given how many championships the likes of Ferrari, McLaren and Williams have won, but I genuinely believe there is a case to be made for Red Bull Racing being the most successful F1 team ever.
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People may not realise or want to admit it, but RBR is among the most influential teams of the past decade. While young talent has been brought into championship teams before RBR took over Jag, signing on Sebastian Vettel and particularly Max Verstappen to the Milton Keynes outfit have been the greatest push for F1 teams to look younger. Even Ferrari, which traditionally have looked for established drivers and world champions to field the team, are currently running their youngest lineup ever. Its probably thanks to RBR and its junior programme that nowadays most of the well known drivers in lower categories such as Oscar Piastri or Liam Lawson are affliated with an F1 team, the current F2 championship leader Drugovich stands out as he is completely unaffiliated.
People will buy Mercedes anyway, but the advertising ofr redbull is out of this world.
Taking risks is the name of the game for Red Bull and it pays off well sometimes but they keep on pushing no matter what.
One would say they tatakae
@@PuniversalMovies man of culture i see
@@PuniversalMovies Sasageyo sasageyo
Hard to not take risks when you're selling flavored water for 2 bucks.
correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from brawn, surely red bull have been the most efficient team ever in terms of championships contested vs championships won or races contested vs races won
Nope, Mercedes has been more efficient, they came in in 2010 sat in the mid field till 2014 and hasn’t lost a constructors championship yet. Red Bull started in 2005 winning its first championship in 2010 winning 3 more and then got smashed when the turbo hybrids came along. I feel Because of Mercedes’ partnership with Mclaren during the 2000s and the constantly shifting of teams names during the 2010s people forget that Mercedes as a team has only been on the grid for 12 years.
@@rexthewolf3149 but what about in the fifties with Stirling moss and fangio
@@AtticuscusF1 yeah they did race back then but I wouldn’t call them the same team. There’s nothing aside from the name that ties the two teams together. Mercedes AMG wasn’t built from the old Mercedes team and none of the old personnel was involved in its creation. It’s not like Ferrari or McLaren that have been a singular entity since they’re founding.
I usually distinguish the two when talking about them both by calling the modern team Mercedes AMG or just AMG and call the old team just Mercedes.
@@rexthewolf3149
But u need to keep in mind that Mercedes is a Car manufacturer company and has money, resources and experience of making cars and it has also be an engine supplier in F1 for a pretty long time .
RB on the other hand was a beverage company with no experience and history in automobiles and definitely not as much money as Mercedes .
@@mrdude9671 bro redbull is way more than a drink company like they own a race track that’s on the f1 calendar
Tbh they have accomplished a lot in such a short time span but even if we are basing it off that Mercedes’ would beat them; of all time Ferrari, McLaren and Williams all had their eras of dominance but the best has to be Ferrari just based off the statistics
@kidsmoke49 You're right with Mercedes but despite William's horrific performance the past near 2 decades, they were a true force to be reckoned with from 1979-1997
But u need to keep in mind that Mercedes is a Car manufacturer company and has money, resources and experience of making cars and it has also be an engine supplier in F1 for a pretty long time .
RB on the other hand was a beverage company with no experience and history in automobiles and definitely not as much money as Mercedes .
@@mrdude9671 Yes but Red Bull had taken over a midfield team in Jaguar and brought new staff in such as Horner, Marko and Newey to help them advance up the grid. They had the experience just new leaders. Red Bull is effectively just a sponsor. Mercedes were similar but just bought a championship winning team
in terms of success to time ratio theres no beating brawn
@@mrdude9671 being a car manufacturer is irrelevant in f1 look at Toyota they were spending more money then almost every other team but in ten years of f1 they didn't win a title, Williams is the opposite they never built an engine in their entire history but they have more titles than nearly every other team
Run Bull Is good and i think that Newey Is the Guy that carry Red Bull, without him i don't know how they would be dealing with the other top teams
He has a very hands off approach
@@jakem5039 True
That may be true, but Newey is a part of the RB team. Its like saying Hamilton or Daimler carried Mercedes. Its true, but it doesnt diminish their achievements in the slightest because they are a part of that team. I guarantee there are other engineers "carrying" other teams. Whether that be one or three, but especially right now those teams would not want anyone to know of them in the slightest, especially consideirng RB and AM are trying to buy them all out.
Just like the brawn-michael- jean- james in ferrari
I'm a Ferrari fan, and I can say with certainty that the beauty of F1 is that a combination of people together in any of the successful teams in F1 bring success, not one person alone.
Not to mention they've the perfect billboard as well, that is in Max. Man's closet is filled with nothing but RB merch and he refuses to wear anything else 😂
Everything about Redbull just fits. They always advertise with extreme sports and F1 fits right in that catalogue. And even the way they conduct their bussiness in F1 fits the image of the brand. Their driver is known for his aggressive overtakes, their team principle is known for being a cut-throat person, their pit-wall is known for taking risks with their race strategy, their pit crew is the only crew in the sport that has achieved sub 1.9 second pitstops, even their cars are known for being difficult to handle but very fast. It just fits the image of the brand, it's perfect advertising for RedBull.
Brawn GP 100% win record?
haha
6:59 I think there's been more than two drivers to race for RB/TR from outside the academy:
David Coulthard
Mark Webber
Robert Doornbos
Sergio Perez
Sébastien Bourdais
You could argue that some of them were there before RB started really searching for driver talent, but they raced nonetheless.
I've been a huge Red Bull fan since 2013. This team is just legendary. They come into the sport buying out a failing backmarker team and in a short few years they turn into a championship force. In the peak of Mercedes dominance they still managed to be a top team challenging for wins until eventually creating another championship car. A brand all about performance. I love everything red bull does in and out of f1.
I always buy redbulls when it comes to energy drinks I love the taste and I support the f1 team
Same
marketing at it's finest...
jk, I'm not gonna pretend like I don't drink a redbull every race weekend
To the toxic fans saying Karen Horner, Marko the dementianting old man etc:
They're leaders of the team, so naturally they'd be speaking in what they believe to be in the best interest of the team. You might not like what they say, but they're doing their job. Cry about it.
Stop with the stupid nicknames people, grow up. That applies to people who hate on other teams/ drivers as well. You're the ones ruining the sport
I hope Redbull win the constructors this year. The team deserves some major success to reward all the hardworking employees. They really have been on it since the start of 2021.
If we're talking success as a broad term, I don't think it's that straight forward. Bruce McLaren wanted a race team that could become very successful in and out of F1 (and go on to build road cars), while Enzo Ferrari wanted to build the most recognisable brand in motorsport. Both their teams achieved their goals. In terms of statistics though, I actually calculated the race starts to race win ratio quite a while ago. I can't remember the details properly (and this was before the 2022 season started) but I think it was Mercedes (48%), Brawn GP (47%), Red Bull (27%), Ferrari (24%), and McLaren (20%). Yes, Mercedes has a higher win ratio than Brawn.
What I find really amazing is the fact that Mercedes literally has more podiums than race starts, a feat which Red Bull, Ferrari and even Brawn GP haven't achieved. They literally have a 105% (or that was the case when I checked last) podium to race start ratio. Love them or hate them, Mercedes-AMG stands as the most successful F1 team in stats when you consider ratios (which eliminates the advantage that Ferrari, McLaren and Williams have in their extra years). They even stand second in title wins (8/12 constructor's titles, and 9/14 driver's titles including Fangio in 1954 and 1955). The only team ahead of them is Brawn GP.
Maybe if mercedes didn't steal everything from mclaren people would like them more.
can’t have more podiums than race starts
@@unclecousin5782 dude a team has 2 drivers
@@unclecousin5782 lol
@@marwin436 lol so ur counting the entry of both cars as one, but the results separately? just manipulating stats after the fact to make whatever ur point is
Mercedes being third after 6 races doesn't discredit them from their dominance. I disagree with the cherry picking here. Good video though :)
Mercedes were just good because they had an OP engine and spent more money than all teams but one...
@@ludvig7473 OP means they were really successful 🤷🏻♂️
@@Swaggicus Because they had a madsive advantage in 2014 and the engines were basically frozen until 2017, you think others can catch up then? That whole era was massively in Mercs favour, because of rules from the FIA...
@@ludvig7473 the question was about how successful they were. Unfair rules or not, they were more successful than every other team combined from 2014-2021
@@Swaggicus Success when noone else has the means to compete means nothing. They had rules fabouring them and a massive budget advantage. Its like an adult going to a fight against a kid, youre expected to win. RB being consistently top 3 when not even being a works team is MUCH more impressive..
See, I think they might be the greatest team in F1 financially speaking. They basically get paid to advertise their brand for the next 3 years, just by two sponsorships alone they pay the budget for the car and upgrades. Throw in the smaller sponsors and they have pretty much all expenses covered. When it comes to race wins and championships, they are 5th on the grid right now historically, with Ferrari, Williams, McLaren and Merc ahead. 3rd since the turn of the millennia, Ferrari and Merc being the teams beating them there, so it’s metric dependent
Great video. Very well put together and presented. Thank you!! 🏎
Not yet they have the potential tho
I'd like to know about their win/season and championship/season ratios relative to teams like Ferrari, McLaren and Williams.
Ongoing 2022 season not counted.
Red Bull: 5/17 or 29.4% (WDC) and 4/17 or 23.53% (WCC) with 24.78% Win rate (84 victories to 338 race starts).
McLaren: 12/56 or 21.43% (WDC) and 8/56 or 14.28% (WCC) with 18.57% Win rate (183 victories to 915 race starts)
Williams: 7/45 or 15.56% (WDC) and 9/45 or 20% (WCC) with 14.78% Win rate (114 victories to 771 race starts)
Ferrari: 15/72 or 20.83% (WDC) and 16/72 or 22.22% (WCC) with 23.13% Win rate (241 victories to 1042 race starts)
Great video John, good luck for the rest of the club 100 junior season mate, I’ll be back hopefully for round 5 at pfi
I still think it’s Mercedes. Even though I’m a huge Red Bull fan I think they are still behind. I do think that it’s not that far off though and can change over even the next 2-3 years depending how it goes. Brand success I think you can say Red Bull wins hands down.
Just hoping for amazing championship fights.
6:20 Could not have said it better. People bash RBR for not giving their drivers time but they really seek out forthat 0,1% of top talent for their top team.
Absolutely agree with you about Horner and RB, the team fits him like a glove just like Mercedes fits Toto. Can't imagine anyone else in either of their places, which is no doubt part of why they've been so successful
Without doubt they have been extremely successful, but "the most" is al bold statement without making direct comparisons with other teams so see how they really line up historically.
Crazy to think I started watching F1 in 2016 (coincidentally the first race I remember was Spain lol) and I became a max fan because of UA-camr AR12, and I haven’t left, I felt so relieved last year but I was so worried that we’d suck this season, but damn am I happy… now hopefully the bears will win a Super Bowl
RB fan as well. The drink is ok but i buy to support the team as they support more levels of motorsport than anyone else. Great video!
exactly! what rb as a company and brand has done for all types of extreme sports is incredible - look at MotoGP, every other rider is basically sponsored by rb, and so many other extreme sports find funding and exposure from rb
Probably one of your best videos right here!
I'm not a RB fan as of recent, but you have to give them props for what they've done. And in all honesty, if I was an F1 driver, provided I was good, I'd want Christian as my boss
Honestly, a unique perspective
Great video John!
7:00 who is the first, if you don’t mind me asking?
It is official now. Red Bull literally is F1’s best and most successful team.
I would also note thay their biggest headache throughout the years was the engine, Renault catastrophe and moody Honda engines were weighing on their performance, but now that they will develop their own engines ( or even better partner with porsche), they will eliminate their last real weakness, becoming fully self-reliant, they just do everything right
One reason why red bull has been so succesful: Adrian Newey
Edit: Wrote that before watching the video
They also bred some amazing talent in their academy. Two prime examples are Vettel and Verstappen.
Red Bull has Adrian Newey… If you have Adrian Newey for 15+ years, your going to be very fast!! Unless your engine sucks…
Perez may not have come up from their young driver program, but I absolutely count myself a Red Bull fan *because* they picked him up after he got dropped by Racing Point. They recognise talent and give it a chance
Hey how did you buy f1 tv pro ?
Reckon Ross brawn, Jean todt and Schumacher were the same kind of perfect rb r now
And there goes the jinx..
agree fully
Not me getting a Red Bull ad during the video😅
If you consider Mercs season to be bad, them being the 3rd fastest then 2015-18 was bad for Rebull to, as they were the 3-4 fastest through that time.
So not sure if they really were the strongest from 09 onwards.
5:38 Wasn’t super aguri hondas junior team?
Its not a question of Red Bull could be the best in F1 there is no way any other car is going to beat them😊😊😊
It's great story that a brand who sells soft drinks for a living is better against teams that manufacture card for a living
Just name 1 other customer team who managed to beat their supplier team each season, their achievement is ridiculous
Redbull are the GOATS
The Juri Vips part aged like a bit of fine milk...
6:39 damn that was awkward
Don't forget Helmut Marko, many drivers wouldn't have made it without him. Inb4 they ruined Gasly & Albon, they also created them.
I won’t say they are the best , but one of the legends of the sport now , like Mercedes , Williams , Renault , Mclaren & Ferrari to me all this are legendary teams & Red Bull has joined them
Common W + vaild + subscribed
Good content, but you should compare it to other teams
as a redbull fan i completely agree
Really having checo Pérez on their team , they increase their income and with the time it will increase more more and i said this just with a good example is the fifa world cup México it can be second or first talking about selling tickets and merchandise
I think Mercedes is doing as well as redbull did in 2017-2018-2019
Vroom vroom red bull fast
Not bad for some sparkly caffeinated bois compared to all the car manufacturers in F1
They didn't have problems?? Redbull was like Mercedes this year in 2014 and 2015 yeah we don't talk about 💀
I agree and disagree, i think currently Red Bull are the most well set up for the future, you could argue maybe ferrari is on the same level but that’s beside my point. However I think saying they are THE most successful team in f1 can’t be true with the past success of teams like Mercedes and Ferrari. Do i think that Red Bull will join them on the same tier very soon, yes. Do i think they are there quite yet, no. Fun video, a take i haven’t heard many make and that’s always fun. 👍
8:52 , that's my footage ;)
whoops, sorry! i've credited you in the description but i can blur out the footage if you want me to?
@@JohnWarren No problem mate just leave it as it is! I saw you were a karter too?
i am indeed!
For the years RB have been in F1 compared to Mercedes and even Ferrari it is quiet impressive that they are the youngest out of the big 3 but always there at the top
They're apparently a good place to work as well if you're hardworking and no bs, great culture there.
Ayy whos that Sexy Driver Coach at 6:48
Who knows
This seasons Gena be very up and down for redbull, just like last season against merc. Some tracks with favour them and other would benefit Ferrari
Maybe, but not quite, if we're talking about championships, no.
It is already quite surprising how RedBull have been dominating despite Honda officially gone, and having to battle the engine giants - Mercedes and Ferrari. I have a feeling midway in the season it might bite back, when their engine finally starts to have troubles thats beyond RedBulls Intel and experience.
Engine rules are frozen now and will be completely frozen by September also, Honda are still helping them with the management of the engines for at least the next 2 years
Hence the HRC sponsorship on the RB and AT cars
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 But still, F1 is on cutting edge of Motorsports technology. And a highly competitve with giants such as Ferrari and Mercedes on the pitch who by the way have great hybrid technology both on and off the racing Motorsports. The Intelligence it requires is exhaustive. A full commitment from the engine manufacture would certainly make a lot of difference. Even with Hondas full commitment in the last 3 years , they were still just about enough to remain competitive. Now especially Mercedes finally having figured out a major part of their problem, its going to be tougher to remain competitive. Also should the engine fail or degrade miserably, Honda no longer have the obligation to commit.
Mate, most of Hondas staff are trasferred to RBPT. Its basically the same people + a bunch of people from Mercedes now...
Team can imply people who are not an engine or car manufacturer. If so theh win hands down
2014
Red Bull is the only team with a product anyone can buy and feel like they are helping a little bit.
Yeah helping yourself to ruin your health that is
@@rhombingdog7978 You wanna buy a fucking AMG?
@@karomonarch 90% of the population dreams of buying a Merc , Ferrari or McLaren . NO one dreams of buying a sugar drink that is filled with preservatives
@@rhombingdog7978 But no one has the money to, so they buy an energy drink for half a bloody Euro instead
Great Video but I do disagree. Even though they aren't my favourite Team in F1. Ferrari are the most successful not only by the numbers but as a business. There is no F1 without Ferrari. And they are the only team that can say that. Plus they also earn the most money every year regardless of how they do due to the ridiculous amount of money they receive each year from sponsorship, commercially and from brand revenue.
Would you like a red bull?
Although they have achieved a lot as a Franchise - currently Ferrari have that Title , but It wont be a surprise if Red bull could get this one day
The real reason red bull f1 advertisment works is, because many fans buy some Drinks as a ritual for the race
interesting video. I totally agree RBR is the most successful team. they are the best for so many years too
Pretty soon Red Bull will be champions in every single Motorsport in existence
If you truly said that I guess Ferrari racing in F1 is just an illusion all along then
Silentx Energy F1 Clearrr 😂
I really wish and hope Red Bull would reconsider keeping Perez for 2023
Well. Now he is at rb until 2024👍🏼
People will argue but definitely they do the job a lot more better than Lawrence Stroll.
imagine having all that doubt u still type 'could' in ur title
Yeah f1tv is amazing.
I'm a massive red bull fan and as much as I want to agree with you I cant. Saying their the best team because they won a race every year but Mercedes has won 8 constructors and 7 drivers championships just doesn't make sense. But are they successful? The way I like to look at it is percentage wise, because honestly Ferrari has been in the sport for 71 years (since the beginning) and Red bull has only been here for 17 years. You cant compare their totals in my opinion, but you can compare their percentage's. Ferrari has won 16 constructors and 15 drivers championships in 72 years. This gives a drivers win percentage of 21,13% and a constructors win percentage of 22.54%. Red Bull have won 5 drivers and 4 constructors championships in 16 years. This gives a percentage of 31.25% and 25%. With this logic Red bull is a better team on average. Also Mercedes have 15 total entries with 9 drivers and 8 constructors championships. This gives them the monstruous averages of 60% and 53.33% . That's insane!
You could argue that this isn't valid because maintaining high performance over 15 or 17 years is a lot easier than maintaining it over 71. And to this I say... yes, absolutely. This argument has flaws! By this measurement of performance Brawn GP would be the best team ever with a 100% average for both. However I think its interesting to show how insane both red bull and Mercedes have been to the modern era. And overall I just hope for close racing. I thing the one thing we can learn from Schumacher, Hamilton and Vettel's years is that its never fun if there's absolute dominance
Sorry for the rant... Just thought its interesting. And I know this video is more focused on the way red bull market and their influence on the sport in total. And yeah that's also very good. Hell they have a video of them changing tires in zero-G!!! Their marketing is insane!
RB also sends the flunked F1 drivers to other racing classes/ series too
Mercedes rejoind f1 after red bull and has 8 constructors championships and has arguably the greatest f1 driver of all time and has mores WDC wins
"...greatest f1 driver of all time...". Sit rep: he isn't!
@@paulo_f1 I mean he literally is
@@wibb53 Well, he isn't. Jim Clark was much better, Ayrton was much better!
@@paulo_f1 Unfortunately you can't quite compare drivers over different eras mate, but statistically, Sir Lewis is the best 🤷♂️
@@wibb53 Because he has had more races to gain that statistic advantage. Because he lives in a safer, more reliable F1 than the ones I mentioned
Me an intellectual: brawn 😏
the most successful business wise surely. just pure success is Ferrari no doubt on that
I’m not even a Mercedes fan and this is just wrong
They would need to get rid of Helmut Marko and Christian horner first.
RBR are as good as they are because of Mr. Newey. when he retires RBR will suffer
It is maybe 2022 best team but not best team not nearly close
Could be but far from it. It’ll take forever to dethrone ferrari as the best team in f1 both in stats and what they’ve brought to f1.
Aston Martin's marketing hasn't been that great has it💀🤣
Not the best , but they have it boxed because every other team is related to RBR
2015 could be considered a very poor ferrari-like season
I know Max hasn't been on point in q3 but Charles being 3 tenths faster in every quali, contradicts your point
1 lap Ferrari is much faster , but in rece pace redbull is faster if you look at tyre degradation etc. But after Barcelona update of Ferrari they are good at race pace too.
To be honest I think red bull ( Who have been in f1 for 28 years) is a great team but compared to Mercedes who have only been in f1 for 12 years mercedes could do some great things in 16 years (that is if they stay in f1)
They weren’t a team for 28 years though, they were either a driver sponsor or a title sponsor. They became a team in 2005, which is only 17 years
it's always a party at Redbull, Redbull had bad years 17,18
One word: Christian Horner
Saying Red Bull has been competitive every year since 2009 is just inaccurate. If you’re considering this year a “bad year” for Mercedes than surely 2015 was a bad year for Red Bull; in fact 2015 was downright atrocious if Mercedes’ performance this year can be considered poor. 7th and 8th in the drivers standings, only three podiums the whole year with an average finishing position around 8th place and scoring a quarter of the points the constructors champion scored. That season was on par with Ferrari’s disastrous 2020 season which was their worst in thirty years.
Red bull gives you winnsssss
I’m glad you admit your bias in this multiple times cuz yeah… wow