For all the talk of not being a Safety Sally you're the only person on the internet I've ever seen unplug a power tool before putting their hand on the blade. No one has accidents intentionally and I think it's really good that you kept the practical, doesn't cost you nothing, safety steps in so that people can see what it looks like and how effortless it is.
I unplug all the time for a number of reasons. 1. My dad taught me to. And most of my big tools are very old with easily bumped power switches. 2. I work for a company that is fanatical about lock out/tag out. And 3. (most importantly) I used to work with a guy who lost his right arm mid-forearm because he didn't practice LO/TO.
John, you kept saying "grounded" when you went to step on your rubber mat. Actually you are "insulated" when you are standing on the mat. You never want to be grounded when you are dealing with electricity. That's probably why those 35 people met their maker.
Because of the high voltages involved, "being grounded" has even killed users who didn't touch anything while the gear was powered up. If one of the electric probes falls to the ground or shorts with the ground, it creates an underground voltage pulse that falls off quickly with distance. The difference in voltage between someone's left foot and right foot (assuming they're slightly different distances from the source) can be enough to produce a fatal current. Creepy, huh?
Lol... thanks... knew I wouldn't have to look far to find the comment I was about to make.... 😂 100% being grounded turns you into the ground, and electricity takes the path of least resistance
@CromemcoZ2 I love and hate working with electricity for this reason. This is why I decided not to be a lineman and stick with consumer electronics. Much less room for that type of error.
Being grounded as a kid down in Texas in 1950, I was drilling with an all metal hand drill when it shorted out because I was grounded barefoot on the ground. I could not release the trigger for about 5 seconds.
As someone who works with electricity and has made videos doing this with a microwave transformer, your terminology was way off. That doesn't really matter because the message of the video was still well recieved; if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.
This video clearly demonstrates the level of ignorance that generally surrounds electricity. That's what kills people. Fooling around with a high voltage source and a conductive fluid, what could possibly go wrong? Well quite a bit actually. But let's go outside on the damp ground just to be safe.
I chuckled a little every time he said he was making sure he was grounded as he stepped on an insulating material. Nothing he against him he is a woodworker, not an electrician.
This.. I agree with this! I am not an electrician, In fact my profession was in IT and while I did mostly networking and PC/Sever Hardware, I have a varied past starting college for Forestry and Wildlife Management before switching majors to Network Systems and Security after I saw how many people were in the classes and having a general understanding of the limited number of positions available in that field. I only state this for reference purposes of my background and professional knowledge. I believe that a lot a incidents/accidents are due to ignorance or general stupidity of the human population who do not put out effort to learn anything about or understand anything outside of the rather limited amount of things that they do or deal with on a daily basis. I also believe that as a society we have dumbed things down to a point where no one takes responsibility for themselves or their actions and require warning labels for things that at one time might have been considered common sense. I believe that society as circumvented the principles of Darwinism where problems actually removed themselves from the picture allowing those problems to multiple exponentially over the last couple of centuries. Now with that said, in my desire to learn and understand things better or at least confirm the things I believe I know and understand, the main reasoning for using DIY microwave transformers and the like is for increased power for the task giving you "bigger, flashier, extreme" results at a much faster rate, correct? This bring due to the manufactured systems lacking the power wattage/voltage needed for said results due to safety concerns and possible liabilities should someone not read or understand the safety warnings causing them to remove themselves from the rest of society?
The concept it's correct to warn people about tools that become a safety issue, but what i don't excuse it's giving bad information like the part he say condensing microwaves that it's a danger from the people that do it diy, also in the reviews that he have made from other tools on the past he have made tools looking more dangerous removing guards or using the the way it shouldn't be used,
@@battleminion a microwave oven transformer is incredibly hazardous. It is the failure to appreciate the danger which is what gets people too. People just don't understand electricity. People will run if they see a bolt of lightning. The juice in a MWO transformer can make you just as dead. It's just not as visible. But it's there.
You want the tool/device to be grounded, you want yourself to be insulated. If the tool isn't grounded, YOU become the grounding wire. Insulating yourself helps make sure ALL the electricity goes through the grounding and neutral wires, and doesn't branch off in go through you, too. An important thing to do us take off metal jewelry, it can act like a "lightning rod" and encourage it to branch to you. A tattoo or silicone wedding band is all around a better/safer option for any kind of work.
Fun video of things I'll never try. You are backwards on ground. You don't want to be grounded, you want to be insulated from ground because you don't want to be part of the path to ground. The rubber mat is insulating you from ground.
Maybe thats the reason why people die doing this. They think they should ground themselves instead of putting additional isolation between them and the ground.
@@JollyJokester I mean people do stupid stuff all the time because it's fun, myself included. I think John practiced what my friends and I refer to as "smart stupid" which is basically when you take reasonable safety precautions to do something dumb because it's fun. John the right steps, he just had the concept of ground backwards or at least his desired relationship with ground backwards. My guess is the people who died doing it practice stupid stupid, doing something dumb because it's fun, but without any safety precautions.
In the case of using a microwave transformer, the fact that you are grounded or not makes no difference. A microwave transformer is effectively an isolating transformer. The high voltage winding is not referenced to ground!
@@GrandadTinkerer Yeah, I was shooting for not being too nerdy, something I'm seldom good at :-)... I should have said you don't want to be part of the path from higher potential to lower potential. In the way John was talking about it, he clearly meant earth ground, but you are right. Any meaningful difference in potential you involve yourself in is bad news. I'll add ground is a pretty poorly understood concept, which is often used as a somewhat magical shorthand for lower potential. Grady over at Practical Engineering has as good a dive into grounds as I've seen called "Where Does Grounded Electricity Actually Go?" It's worth the watch
There's a youtuber named styropyro that builds super lasers and messes with huge homemade capacitor banks for fun. He seems incredibly knowledgeable on electricity and its dangers. Dude's nuts. He's also spoken about the homemade fractal woodburning devices that have killed people. He says you touch the wrong spot and you're a corpse before you hit the floor.
@HellfireDraco and styropryo is absolutely correct - "Hey babe, hit the switch while I hold the probes on this piece of wood." (soon to be widow throws switch) BZZZZZT Widow: "I guess I'm having Jim-Bob Fricassee tonight"!
All the top content people who regularly more or less play with high voltage are extremely aware of the safety risks and what they can and cannot do. Every single one of them also says microwaves are super mega dangerous n to never take em apart
14:30 For anyone wondering, the woman’s name is Anne Reardon. She’s an Australian content creator and owner of the channel How to Cook That. The warning video itself was actually taken down by UA-cam because it advocated harmful activity.
Just so no one misunderstands OP, her video wasn’t promoting anything, UA-cam just cited that as the reason for removal. She was actually actively and vehemently warning people about how dangerous it was and telling them NOT to try it because it was killing people. I found ironic that they struck her video where she warns people and brings attention to the issue of YT refusing to remove the fractal videos, but then continue to refuse to remove the actual fractal burning videos stating they don’t break guidelines.
@@nickyn1083Thank you for the clarification. I watched the video before YT took it down, and made sure to watch it again when she was allowed to repost it. The amount of people who decided against fractal woodburning after watching her video is insanely high, and thank goodness for that!
I LOVE HER, she's awesome and SUPER SMART. I just watched her make cotton candy kind of out of melted jolly ranchers. It was weird. She's weird. Great channel. Awesome accent.
It's my understanding that Dado stacks are banned in Europe because power tools must come to a stop in under 10 seconds, and the additional mass of the stack makes that harder on the motor.
They are not banned at all, it's just a myth. You can buy dado stacks, dado blades etc. They are used a little less over here because shapers are quite popular, and we usually use those if it's not in sheet goods.
Not exactly. Dados aren't illegal just aren't compatible with the security solutions. Most (table) saws have some kind of active braking solution which usually stops the blade within 2-3 seconds (btw. that's super useful). Because that brake happens quite instantly the momentum of the heavy dado stack could loosen the locking nut on the arbor. (I was managed to do once with a standard 254mm blade on a jobsite saw when I wasn't payed enough attention to pull properly the nut so it's definitely a thing. Larger, heavier blades even use those extra holes to lock the blade on the arbor preventing the possibility of spinning.
Its illegal to sell and for business with employees to use them if im correct, individuals can use them. If you can get ahold of a set that is. I actually bought a wobble blade from ebay and had it shipped to the netherlands. Works fine once you get it right. Just is a huge pain to set up because only way to get it accurate is by trial and error (width of dado and distance from the fence also), probably the reason it went extinct
Why the chainsaw disc is so dangerous is because it mimics the tip of a chainsaw bar….which is the part that causes chainsaws to kickback into you. Being circular, no matter which direction you use it from, you are courting a kickback. When a chainsaw kicks at least the length of the bar provides some inertia and the longer the bar the less it can get to your face. The chain disc has zero length and if it grabs the wood it will spin the tool right around on you. It will be sudden, a snatch too quick to react to. It might spin around onto your hand, or groin or into your clothing and run up into your neck, chewing you exactly how you’d expect the tip of a chainsaw to do. If the idea of a running chain saw being thrust into your neck sounds horrific…it is because it is, and using this chain disc is just asking for serious injury or death, no exaggeration!
So true. The tip of the bar is the danger zone- so it should be a great plan to ONLY use the tip of the bar in our product. Would love to see their liability insurance carrier's fine print.
I've used one of these and had it grab before, the electric motor inside my grinder wasn't strong enough to rip from my hands. Still I used it without knowing the safety risks and won't be trying that wheel again.
After Stumpy Nubs tried carving with that chainsaw disk he almost had stumpy nubs. It took him months to recover from that. He also did a very good video on what should be in a first aid kit and how it should be stored because of it, especially for us single-man shops.
when i heard its a chainsaw chain on a angel grinder, i noped away from that thing immediately. i do not trust a chain can stay on my angel grinder for long when i put sideway pressure on it while spinning at 7000+ RPM. All it takes is for the chain to expand in length a little bit due to heat expansion, then it wont be a tight fit to the housing disc anymore, putting sideway pressure in that scanario is just begging for it to cam out. nope, nope, dont like, fuck that, nope.
@@acrazydurian the good thing is that once the chain is loose, it starts reducing energy immediately and is less dangerous.. it’s just that in between time while it is part way attached that the danger level is astronomical.
I've been doing fractal burning for the better part of 5 years now... although I refer to it by it's technical name; a Lichtenburg figure. Yes, it's dangerous... yes, people have been killed doing it... and EVERY single case that I've investigated has been for the same reason; handheld probes... very much like the one you featured here. My rig, which is 100% homemade with transformers salvaged from old microwaves, puts out over 4,000V at 60mA, and is completely no-touch... and I researched it for several months in every aspect before I even attempted it the first time. I have VERY strict safety protocols when I'm working and I've demonstrated the process to countless guests in my shop without any issues. Excellent video and I agree with you 100% in one category; safety. :) Respect what the tool is capable of and it can't hurt you.
Just for fun and safer for the ones who are scared you can the unit from a stun gun and some.18650 batteries it does the same thing on a smaller scale and altho i havent been shocked my it yet id imagine ya wont die cuz ths lack of power
I have a similar rig that's much more redneck than yours but they key is the no touch aspect. I won't even plug it in without already having the screws and wires set and I hold onto the power plug with both hands until I'm done and unplug it. Anything less is too damgerous and I agree with the video here. Absolutely would never recommend it to anyone for fear that they kill themselves by being any less safe
@@JohnMaleckiUnscrewed... I was arc-flash certified for a number of years doing I.T. ... and I've seen what high voltage can do to a human body. I take ZERO chances. 😉
Just something to keep in mind regarding the fractal woodburning: Two of the people that died attempting this were trained electricians. You can be wearing insulating gloves and have them melted onto your hands. Just don't do it, a lightning pattern on wood is not worth your life.
Even professionals get into a pattern of bad habits. Only they know if they followed every safety step and clearly did not. Disconnect the power source before touching it even if it is by switch, again it was “negligible”
Wtf does him being an electrician have to do with anything? They just work with manufactured hardware that operates under very specific circumstances. They don’t know anything about high voltage electronics or industrial design.
@@Christopher_Gibbons Wait, do electricians in the US not learn how a transformer works and that it won't trip the MCB if you were to get electrotuted by a device that uses one, since there's no change of resistance on the side of the transformer that's connected to the power supply?
@@beardiemom No. in the US household electricians and high voltage electricians have radically different educational requirements. Regular electricians never work with high voltage transformers, and they have no idea how to safely handle 10kv.
@@Christopher_Gibbons As someone from outside the US, I am disturbed but not surprised that electricians don't have to learn the basics of how electronic devices function.
In 1979 my dad and I went in together and bought a new Craftsman tables saw, radial arm saw, and lathe. These are all still in my shop. We also got some accessories, one of which was this exact Craftsman wobble dado. Over the years I have built probably a dozen different cabinets and bookshelves as well as other projects using the wobble dado. I still have it in my shop. I used it mostly on the radial arm saw to rabbet half-laps for face frames. I've also used it to cut dadoes for inserting the metal strips for adjustable shelves on bookcases using the table saw. The scariest part of it is when using the radial arm saw is the guard won't fit. You have to use it without any guard at all, so you have this spinning wheel of death very near hands and face. The other disadvantage of the wobble dado, it doesn't cut a square bottom dado. The wider the groove, the less square it is. Another funny thing...years ago I bought a set of stackable angles washers that let you turn a regular saw blade into a wobble dado! Also scary and won't cut square bottom dados. A few years ago I did finally spring for an actual stacking dado. Much nicer!
The 10" Craftsman radial arm saw I had, Sears did sell a special blade guard for the wobble Dado. I used it for a few years until I could afford to buy the Freud stacked set. The non-flat bottom Dado it cut was the main reason I replaced it... the Dado, blade guard and the radial arm saw haven't seen action in decades. I guess we were lucky, using that Dado, in addition to the radial arm saw "death trap" 😉
As someone who has used the adjustable dado blade from craftsman since I was in my 20's......I'm 62 now, the only problem with the adjustable dado is it takes trial and error to get the width of the dado just right. Once you get the width right, it cuts just fine and is no more dangerous to use than any other blade. I will admit that I prefer a dado stack. Just follow one simple rule to avoid injuring yourself while working with tools.......Don't be a dumbass.
I also had an adjustable dado years ago before I could afford a stack set. I never felt like it was unsafe. The major drawback is that it doesn't make a flat-bottomed dado. Because the blade oscillates, the center of the dado is deeper than the edges. That makes it really difficult to assemble a project since the glue migrates to the deeper part. It really sucks.
I have one that i bought over the counter in the UK, (so much for banned), its a scary thing to use because its very grabby, the speed is much lower than standard grinder speed, fortunately(?)my grinder has a speed control so i tried it, its 100 percent use the deathgrip handle and guard !If you are careful its great for carving, but the danger is if you get deeper into the wood it can catch its own channel and twist violently,same as a chainsaw kicks back but faster.If you are into carving a real chainsaw or a small carving chainsaw will do the job more predictably.
Don't blame the tool, blame the operator. when I was 15, I put a ten- or twelve-inch table saw rip blade on a nine-inch Milwaukee angle grinder without any type of blade guard foolishly thinking that I could cut a large timber much faster than using a hand saw. You think a chainsaw disc on a four-inch grinder is dangerous, you ain't seen nothing yet! I'm 66 and still have everything that I originally came with and everything works. Lucky for me when I pulled the trigger and spun it up to operating speed and started the cut, the blade grabbed and ripped the grinder from me and that was that. A fantastic learning experience with a lucky outcome that taught me to think about how things are going to act befor doing something stupid.
I remember playing with a fractal burner my dad made 30 years ago. No safety or precautions at all. I remember holding the tool almost drawing with it. Looking back probably not so smart. Thanks Dad.
I'm soooo glad you brought up James Hamilton from Stumpy Nubs. That’s honestly the first thing I thought of the second you mentioned that disc. I personally only use my grinder for metal and masonry and have no plans to try power carving with it, but if I did, I would run as fast as I could away from that disc
. Gf was watching the video with me. And goes “someone’s flying low”. My grandpa always said what can’t get up can’t get out. Great channel. Have a good sir.
I reckon you should have linked the Ann Reardon video explaining how and why it's dangerous, it includes how safety gear was ineffective and how electricians have been victims. Because "it looks dumb" is only going to convince people who value your opinion on aesthetics
The problem with some dado stacks is that due to the weight they will keep on turning for longer than desired. They're not really banned in Europe though, it's more that table saw manufacturers can't sell their saws with them installed or state that they're compatible with them if they don't add heftier brakes on them, which is expensive. You can and has always been allowed to buy them yourself both from any decent store in Europe or import it from e.g. the US.
Licensed Journeyman Electrician here, who's also an avid woodworker; fractal can be done safely, but unless you're basically a clone of me (being a sparky and a woodworker), you probably won't do it safely or even know how. Do NOT do this shit. This is more dangerous that what Stuntmen do, because the risk of death is so much higher. Just don't fuck with it. It isn't worth it.
on the fractal burning, i have seen something similar done on epoxy but for that ppl shoot one large arc through the epoxy to get the lightning effect but that needs way more power since u shoot the lightning bolt through the epoxy the way that works is u have positive and negative points on the work piece "negative being the ground" and then u build a large charge that u pass on the work piece by tapping on the positive point on the work piece and the bolt jumps on the negative point. its neat but hella dangerous
Honestly, your videos are incredible. I'm not into woodworking, or carpentry, for that matter, but I came across one of these videos and was absolutely entertained and watched to completion. Thank You.
There seems to be a myth about dado stacks beeing banned in germany - they are not. As long as your table saw is build to support the use of dado stacks. More specific if the shaft is long enough to let you use the dado stacks and still has enough thread fasten to the nut. If the manufacturer of your table saw say. that a saw doesn't support a dado, than you will use them on your own risk. If something happens, it will be your fault. If something happens during work hours at your job, than you might get in trouble with the insurance, for missusing your table saw. So it is a liability thing and not the fact, that germany think dado's are dangerous.
I have used Craftsman wobble dado blades since 1981(l still have two) and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with them. They work perfectly fine and are not unsafe in absolutely ANY way. Until my best friend and I combined our wood shops about ten tears ago, I never even HAD a dado stack, I used the Wobble for every dado project I ever did. I found it hilarious that the host seemed to struggle with how it works. I figured it out when I was 13, and I'm quite sure there are young wood workers under that age that could figure it out.
the number of activated Saw Stop cartridges you have is kind of concerning. I hope that they went off due to the blade hitting something in the wood, and not hitting you or your guys. . . :-) Also, I do know a guy who does the fractal burning; I do think that in some cases it looks interesting, but i'm not going to do it. I freely admit that I do have a tendency to get complacent with my tools, and I've been lucky enough to not get hurt yet. That one however, yeah no. I don't play with electricity.
Sawstops are made for people like them. They have no proper security and methodology when woodworking. At least it makes for fun UA-cam content though.
The modified microwave units are capacitors, which can hold a charge after they are turned off. Even if you do things right, it's there, waiting for you to complete a circuit.
You should have used that wobble dado blade on the Shopsmith. Too bad you got rid of a great tool. Scott even made a special trip to teach you how to use it.
That kutzall disk is the same one that I dropped on my foot at 11000 rpm! I was wearing my safety sandals, but there was still many stitches, a full month on crutches and almost lost a toe. Wear your safety gear folks, even at home. 😂
The worst part of the wobble saw blade is it does not leave a flat bottom. Other then that they are no better or worse a stacked dado set. I never liked them though. Keep in mind a lot of the older home table saws used buy non pros didnt have the power for the (more expensive) stacked dado sets. In that time span (late 60s and into the mid 70s) I just used a 1hp router with stright bits.
I have used a wobble dado many times and they are really no worse than a stack dado but they don’t cut a flat bottom and that chainsaw carving blade gives me the Willie’s ! 3:52
One of the first major woodworking tools I bought was a 10 inch Radial arm saw from Sears some 35 years ago and I loved it. This is the tool I use the exact same Wobble Dado blade on that you were demonstrating. It is easy to adjust to the exact width that you want, and by making multiple passes when it's set at the widest cut of 3/4 of an inch you can make grooves as wide and deep as you want. The only thing I have found when I use it is to push the blade into the wood, because if you try to draw it across the wood and it bits, it has a tendency to tear across the wood.I like the radial saw because you can see where the blade is cutting as apposed to a table saw where the blade is hidden by the wood. My cousin Is a cabinet maker in Holland and he told me that he has never seen a Radial saw before. I have noticed in all the wood working shows that I have watched on UA-cam, I've never seen anyone use a radial arm saw. Why is that?
I got a pucker when he was touching the fractal burner without the gloves, I don't know if they are absent in the fractal setup but microwaves often have high power capacitors as part of the power circuitry that is being DIY rigged and the internet kits are often just doing that DIY for you so there is still a risk of getting a nasty shock when it is not actively operating.
I used a wobble dato for years before I got the stack dato set. I never had an issue with it but the big problem was that the bottom of the dato was rounded because of the offset. I have put my old wobble to rest and will stick with the stack.
I was going to say exactly this. The rounding isn't nearly as bad on more narrow cuts, but it's still quite noticeable. If I just need a super quick dado that doesn't have to be super accurate, I'll give a spin. Otherwise, use the stack.
Quickly becoming one of my favourite channels. Recommending it to all of my friends/family. I have done woodworking for 10 years now. Still lots to learn!
I bought one of those chainsaw wheels for a project, then I saw Stumpy Nubs video, I have never used it; when it comes to the project I got it for, I'll use my actual chainsaw or a power carving disc.
I don't think dado stacks are actually banned in europe, they're just not common because saws need to be able to brake and stop fast. So manufacturers don't bother making longer arbors. Also, small shapers (sometimes integrated into a single sliding table saw/shaper/thicknesser/etc) are a lot more common in Europe than they are in NA, that's what people traditionally use. Which kind of shows that the issue with dado stacks is not really safety (because a shaper is pretty damn good at removing stuff that isn't wood), just different habits/traditions. Definitely agree about fractal burning, it looks cheesy as fuck and the fact that someone would risk their life for this shit boggles the mind.
European style sliding table saws (so not like the sawstop bolt-on attachment) are also somewhat incompatible with dado stacks, because there isn't much space between a normal saw blade and the sliding table. So you couldn't fit very wide stacks.
They aren't banned or illegal in the UK. They are not allowed in commercial shops due to Health & Safety Executive (HSE) rules that cover the fact that the crown guard needs to be removed (nothing to do with riving knife as the video guy states, you don't need a riving knife when cutting a dado or rebate). But, these rules only cover commercial users, it's neither banned nor illegal for a domestic/hobby/non-commercial user to use a dado blade IF they can find a saw that will take one due to the short arbor situ you cover above. However, several manufacturers now produce overhead crown guards that satisfy the HSE rules and are becoming more common. I have one in my own small business shop (still covered by HSE rules) that I bought from a UK company, the saw, dado stack and the OH crown guard are all supplied by the same company and are good to use.
So I have done Fractal burning myself with the same kit you bought. It's much slower than some other peoples because it's lower voltage. The ones that go really fast are absolutely dangerous. Like you I bought a dead mans switch and I back away when doing this. I have gotten shocked through the gloves a couple of times but I have gotten a decent burn out of it on one of my projects. I think it's just a mater of taste for if you like the burn effect or not.
If you're getting shocked through your gloves you need to check them for pin holes and replace them if they have any. Also standing on a rubber mat and making sure you're not grounded will also reduce the risk of shock
@@NOLENATION96 I'll double check my gloves. I am pretty sure what was happening is that since my hands weren't placed correctly and I kept grabbing metal bits and that was causing me to get shocked. However, if I do it now I set it and back away. I don't want to get hurt. I also do it on the lawn for some better grounding than a shop floor or driveway. Don't know if that is any better than actually getting a rubber mat though.
@WhiteWolfman426 if you have rubber electrical gloves you should be safe from shock even if touching the metal directly unless of course your set up is putting out more voltage than what your gloves are rated for. As for doing it on the lawn thats worse in terms of safety for you. The idea behind putting a rubber mat under your feet is so that you're not grounded. If you're not grounded you won't be shocked because you have no reference to ground think of it like how birds can land on electrical power lines but not get shocked because they're not grounded.
@WhiteWolfman426 actually what you're referring to that increases the burn rate would be the amperage. You can hit a human with 100kv with 500 milliamps and never do any damage of consequence with a quick zap from a spark plug wire, take that same 100kv and 50 amp rapid zap and it's likely to mortally wound or be fatal to the individual that catches the millisecond arc.
@@WhiteWolfman426 you should have leather electrician gloves underneath the rubber ones pretty sure. Also blow your gloves up like a balloon if its doesn't inflate you have a puncture and need the get new rubbers rated electrician gloves
I really wish content creators would stop perpetuating the idea that dado stacks are illegal in Europe. It's just not true, and it's an easy thing to debunk. And understanding the details of why they're rare in the EU is a really good way to understand the dangers of dado stacks so you can use them safely.
This video annoys me SOOO much. It's full of a bunch of misinformation. The wobble dado: It's putting a lot of forces on your table saw that they're just not built for. It's a whole lot of mass off center with high momentum. Sure, the idea seems convenient. It's less messing around with lots of parts. But it's a whole lot of mass that's being used in a relatively uncontrolled way. Okay, comments about the power carver are fair... The fractal stuff... Hoo boy! You state in the video that you and your team did hours of research... and you keep talking about how dangerous it is BUT you immediately undermine that with misinformation! Like you respect it so much you're not going to talk about it any sort of an accurate or helpful way. The rubber mat for example: It doesn't make you more grounded. More grounded would be standing there barefooted with nothing between you and the earth. The point is to make it more difficult for your body to become part of the circuit. i.e. NOT GROUNDED. So if someone is watching that and they take your words seriously, they'll know that to become more grounded they should be essentially planted in the ground - which is a whole lot less safe. You plant so much of your dissuasion in the aesthetic of the technique when tastes are subjective. If people didn't like the result, they wouldn't be trying to make it. It's just a terribly argument to make when the argument you should be making is "It's freakin' unsafe. To get better results, it gets less and less safe". You keep throwing out terms, which again, you said had been researched, without regard to what they actually mean. Compressing frequencies etc. when you can't even be bothered to learn about the relationship between wattage, current and voltage and what any of it means. Putting this information out there in this way, where you're blatantly not giving the dangerous subject matter the respect it deserves, is irresponsible at best. You can do better.
You are not "using microwaves." You are using a transformer to get a higher voltage. YES, grounding is your enemy when playing with high voltage. On the other hand, mocking battery cables OR any low dielectric (low insulation) cables is a worthy endeavor. You want as much rubber between you and 10 volts or better as you can get.
I mean the fractal burning hatred is silly. Only idiots will harm themselves if they have no idea what they are doing, but it's perfectly safe if done correct in a safe environment.
There is a significant difference between an idiot and someone who is ignorant? More than one electrician has been killed or injured when he was ignorant of a problem on a job site. Something as simple as a nail driven into a wall can set the stage for a dangerous or lethal problem.
Hey John! The algorithm brought this video on my TV last night (have not subscribed the unscrewed channel yet). Here is a perspective from a European point of view from a 60 Year old guy doing DiY for about 50 years that might bust some myths around Europe and safety: 1. the wobble stack. I grew up with German DiY machines of the 60ies. There was a famous "Bosch Combi" set, which could practically be turned into everything, powered by a power drill. The table saw came with wobble disks that let you cut dados up to 16mm. My dad and I used it frequently but the results were mediocre since no carbide tipped sawblades were available those days. Eventually a real table saw moved in and put an end to this technique. It hasn't been officially banned in general, but you were not allowed to use wobble stacks in professional workshops. In the mean, they might fall in general under the European Machine Guideline, which bans machines from being sold, that do not have state of the art safety standards (I guess this is similar to the discussions in the U.S. about Saw Stop Technology in table saws). However privately you are still allowed to use wobble stacks if you have them. I do not shed a single tear... The same legal situation is BTW around dado stacks over here. The ban was for professional use. And since no jobsite table saw had an arbor long enough to accept a dado stack, there was no way to use it privately (except for the DeWalt 7492, but you had to import the stack from the U.S. since no one bothered to sell them here). I was itrigued by the dado stack, when I was in the states around 1992, absorbing practically every episode of This Old House and New Yankee Workshop (thanks Norm!). I always wanted to have one and now since the real safety concerns here in Europe were ruled out, I will get one - together with a DeWalt. The concern was, that if the stack is assembled to loosely, the chippers might shift position and the carbide tips, standing proud of the blade, might be sheared off and fly around in the shop. The newly approved stack rsolves this by locking spacers, that hold the parts of the stack in position. 2. The Chainsaw Blade for woodcarving: Unfortunately there is no legal ban on this "thing" (I refuse to call it tool), due to one loophole in the EU-Machines Directive. It is - as the name says - only for machines and not for tools. This means an angle grinder sold equipped with sich a thing is banned as a machine, the thing alone is not. Sad but true. Professionals are not allowed to use them, because we have a local German authority that sets guidelines for Professional Workshop Safety. But I have found such suicide-equipment even in the Home Depot equivalent here in Germany. For me a clear entry ticket to the annual Darwin Award Finals 😉. 3. Fractal Burning - John you gotta be kidding me! Never heard of this nonsense. Thanks for showing this, even though I am seriously concerned, that the curiosity of your European viewers will help to spill this over to us here. When I was young, I rebuilt old radios to valve amplifiers for my guitar (still not sure how I managed to survive childhood). One thing was clear from day one. There is high voltage inside and the principle rule was called "left hand in your pocket" rule - so you were never able to touch one pole with your right and the other with your left hand (which sends the current right through your heart). To set it in perspective: a microwave transformer delivers around 2000V at approx. 1A. An electrical chair is operated at about the same values. Even though these devices are banned in Europe (the chairs, not the microvawe), this shoud keep everyone from doing such stupid things. Even if you get hold of proper electrical insulation gloves (which are around 60$), they are rated only up to 1000V. BTW you do not need to bother with insulation to the ground. The electricity comes from a transformer! This means no pole is bonded to ground potential. But don't jump for joy - this also means, that no RCD will trip, when you electrocute yourself. In this case you are IMHO not even elegible for the Darwin Award, because you are simply dumb and showed no respect for electricity 🤣😂🤣. And John, I agree with you. These burnmarks look disgusting on a fine piece of hardwood. Even MDF is too precious for this. Cheers and greetings from over the pond! Andreas
You're using the lichtenburg machine, or fractal burner wrong. Like the technique or not, don't discredit it by not testing properly.i enjoy watching your videos but you should do a little more research.
As a woodworker and artist that uses epoxy as well as fractal burning... Also I should add in my degrees in computer science and electrical engineering... Fractal burning can be extremely dangerous and should not be done by most DIYers... But with proper design and safety precautions it can be done effectively as well as safely. and also can make some beautiful art. FYI I am guessing the device you got from Amazon is very underpowered.
This is hilarious~!! I remember first seeing the wobble dado cutter years ago when they came out and thought "what a janky idea~!! Someone's gonna get maimed, killed, or worse~!!" LOLOL Thanks for this one, John~!
Never even heard of the fractal burning, (seems I didn't miss much) but when I was working in scene shops in the 80's the wobble style dado blades were still in use. Never had a problem using them as long as you did a series of shallow cuts instead of trying to clear the material in one pass. I also remember seeing the Lancelot ads in higher end woodworking magazine. Even though our jobs sometimes required carving wood and foam, none of us would even consider putting our hands that close to a chainsaw blade on an angle grinder.
Most electricians use the Lancelot carver for cutting holes in dimensional lumber, we use them to cut box holes and conduit passages, there was even a company a few years ago selling a 7 inch version. Good tools but you got to use your head. Just like the wobble, I have a radial arm saw with a wobble on it that never leaves, great tool, use it every other day or so.
Tools that are “banned” in Europe … or the UK if you’re me… are banned from a commercial point of view. You can buy and use them privately but the government would prefer you didn’t. But we still do because LOLZ
The wobble blade is not meant to be used in a table saw, it is for a spindle moulder (shaper). Used one for years with no problems as it is always shielded by guide fences and a power-feed roller
The Lancelot disc is perfectly fine. I use them daily carving Wood Sculptures. If you have issues using it go to Home Depot walk up to the pro desk and tell them you need a set of man wrists
Had an elderly family friend that was a former doctor use one of those chainsaw cutters all the time in a palm grip setup to make bowls and other rounded wood pieces.
I have and use the chainsaw blade on the grinder… it works and can do cool stuff, but I bought it at HARBOR FREIGHT! IT is the only tool I have that scares me… I always have the image of it whipping around and 10,000 rpms of dis-embowlment! Geeeeze… ok, I haven’t used it for a few years… the microwave transformer has nothing to do with microwaves. It’s just a cheap transformer you can make the tool on the cheap from parts at the dump. It’s low voltage, but it’s serious current. It’s just ELECTRICITY! no microwaves!! Haha! Great video!
“Sorry if your kids are watching” - literally just watched this and the drill battle w/ my 4 y/o. You silly, entertaining, potty mouthed bastard 😂. Great content - keep it up!!
I haven't had as much fun watching videos as I did this time. I strongly agree that many unusual tools people have come up with are extremely dangerous to use, and the fractal wood burning is one of the worst. One I've come across is a weighed cable in place of the line on a weed Wacker, and even worse, a table saw blade on the same .😮I personally wouldn't try either one, but I've seen both advertised in various places.
John, you have now, in detail, explained 3 things that I have zero desire to ever to try. Great reenforcement!! However, I am old enough that I do remember that my father had a wobble dado from Sears. I threw it away decades ago.
I remember something similar to fractal burning, but it involved glass and cracking it with a current to create a similar pattern It also happens in like, a fraction of a second.
Fractal burning only looks cool because it is letting you see electricity moving through a solid. It obviously isn't worth dying for but it is very neat if you have extensive previous experience with high voltage electronics.
I remember using the wobble dato cutter in highschool, my shop teaher hated them cause the sound and vibration of them would like put students in a daze, I remember when he got a dato stack for the shop, never seen a man more happy to be incharge of 30 teenagers in a woodshop
Ladies and gentleman, the kit he has, I personally own. It works fantastically, and I get orders for fractal burnt pieces regularly. One of my top 3 requests on orders so his opinion aside, a lot of people like it. The one we have is from a neon sign. And instead of painting the entire board with water, ur only supposed to just paint the water brush width up to, I do about 6 to 7 inches. Takes a lot less time when u direct the current where to go with the water. If u want to do it, buy the kit. It's not expensive, and it's a lot of fun
I own that dado blade by craftsman, bought it in the late 90's. Works great, especially on smaller saws! Is difficult to set the size exactly, but with a little time you can get good cuts. Just used mine last December to make new kitchen drawers and shaker cabinet doors and drawer fronts. I will accept a new stack set if you got one laying around, lol.
I remember using a wobble-head dado head when in high school during wood classes. They worked great but we almost never used them without the instructor checking the setup.
On fractal burning: it's not just that it can stop your heart, it's that it can flash-boil whatever part(s) of you that end up touching it, so if you DO survive, you will almost certainly not do so unaltered
For all the talk of not being a Safety Sally you're the only person on the internet I've ever seen unplug a power tool before putting their hand on the blade. No one has accidents intentionally and I think it's really good that you kept the practical, doesn't cost you nothing, safety steps in so that people can see what it looks like and how effortless it is.
I came damn close to an injury once by not unplugging, I learned my lesson the easy way with out injury and unplug everytime now
I unplug shit before working with the motor or blade.
If I'm cutting steel for 12 hrs I'm not unplugging my metabo every time I wear out a disk. I just stay the fuck away from the activation lever.
I unplug all the time for a number of reasons. 1. My dad taught me to. And most of my big tools are very old with easily bumped power switches. 2. I work for a company that is fanatical about lock out/tag out. And 3. (most importantly) I used to work with a guy who lost his right arm mid-forearm because he didn't practice LO/TO.
always unplug, not even a question. once you learn how easy an accident can happen. not to mention the quality of items made.
John, you kept saying "grounded" when you went to step on your rubber mat. Actually you are "insulated" when you are standing on the mat. You never want to be grounded when you are dealing with electricity. That's probably why those 35 people met their maker.
Because of the high voltages involved, "being grounded" has even killed users who didn't touch anything while the gear was powered up. If one of the electric probes falls to the ground or shorts with the ground, it creates an underground voltage pulse that falls off quickly with distance. The difference in voltage between someone's left foot and right foot (assuming they're slightly different distances from the source) can be enough to produce a fatal current. Creepy, huh?
Lol... thanks... knew I wouldn't have to look far to find the comment I was about to make.... 😂 100% being grounded turns you into the ground, and electricity takes the path of least resistance
Absolutely correct. So many people just think "Grounded means safe!" and.. No. Grounded means you're the path that the electricity wants to take.
@CromemcoZ2 I love and hate working with electricity for this reason. This is why I decided not to be a lineman and stick with consumer electronics. Much less room for that type of error.
Being grounded as a kid down in Texas in 1950, I was drilling with an all metal hand drill when it shorted out because I was grounded barefoot on the ground. I could not release the trigger for about 5 seconds.
As someone who works with electricity and has made videos doing this with a microwave transformer, your terminology was way off. That doesn't really matter because the message of the video was still well recieved; if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.
This video clearly demonstrates the level of ignorance that generally surrounds electricity. That's what kills people. Fooling around with a high voltage source and a conductive fluid, what could possibly go wrong? Well quite a bit actually. But let's go outside on the damp ground just to be safe.
I chuckled a little every time he said he was making sure he was grounded as he stepped on an insulating material. Nothing he against him he is a woodworker, not an electrician.
This.. I agree with this!
I am not an electrician, In fact my profession was in IT and while I did mostly networking and PC/Sever Hardware, I have a varied past starting college for Forestry and Wildlife Management before switching majors to Network Systems and Security after I saw how many people were in the classes and having a general understanding of the limited number of positions available in that field. I only state this for reference purposes of my background and professional knowledge.
I believe that a lot a incidents/accidents are due to ignorance or general stupidity of the human population who do not put out effort to learn anything about or understand anything outside of the rather limited amount of things that they do or deal with on a daily basis. I also believe that as a society we have dumbed things down to a point where no one takes responsibility for themselves or their actions and require warning labels for things that at one time might have been considered common sense. I believe that society as circumvented the principles of Darwinism where problems actually removed themselves from the picture allowing those problems to multiple exponentially over the last couple of centuries.
Now with that said, in my desire to learn and understand things better or at least confirm the things I believe I know and understand, the main reasoning for using DIY microwave transformers and the like is for increased power for the task giving you "bigger, flashier, extreme" results at a much faster rate, correct? This bring due to the manufactured systems lacking the power wattage/voltage needed for said results due to safety concerns and possible liabilities should someone not read or understand the safety warnings causing them to remove themselves from the rest of society?
The concept it's correct to warn people about tools that become a safety issue, but what i don't excuse it's giving bad information like the part he say condensing microwaves that it's a danger from the people that do it diy, also in the reviews that he have made from other tools on the past he have made tools looking more dangerous removing guards or using the the way it shouldn't be used,
@@battleminion a microwave oven transformer is incredibly hazardous. It is the failure to appreciate the danger which is what gets people too. People just don't understand electricity. People will run if they see a bolt of lightning. The juice in a MWO transformer can make you just as dead. It's just not as visible. But it's there.
You want the tool/device to be grounded, you want yourself to be insulated. If the tool isn't grounded, YOU become the grounding wire. Insulating yourself helps make sure ALL the electricity goes through the grounding and neutral wires, and doesn't branch off in go through you, too.
An important thing to do us take off metal jewelry, it can act like a "lightning rod" and encourage it to branch to you. A tattoo or silicone wedding band is all around a better/safer option for any kind of work.
Fun video of things I'll never try. You are backwards on ground. You don't want to be grounded, you want to be insulated from ground because you don't want to be part of the path to ground. The rubber mat is insulating you from ground.
Maybe thats the reason why people die doing this. They think they should ground themselves instead of putting additional isolation between them and the ground.
@@JollyJokester I mean people do stupid stuff all the time because it's fun, myself included. I think John practiced what my friends and I refer to as "smart stupid" which is basically when you take reasonable safety precautions to do something dumb because it's fun. John the right steps, he just had the concept of ground backwards or at least his desired relationship with ground backwards. My guess is the people who died doing it practice stupid stupid, doing something dumb because it's fun, but without any safety precautions.
Came here to say this.
In the case of using a microwave transformer, the fact that you are grounded or not makes no difference. A microwave transformer is effectively an isolating transformer. The high voltage winding is not referenced to ground!
@@GrandadTinkerer Yeah, I was shooting for not being too nerdy, something I'm seldom good at :-)... I should have said you don't want to be part of the path from higher potential to lower potential. In the way John was talking about it, he clearly meant earth ground, but you are right. Any meaningful difference in potential you involve yourself in is bad news. I'll add ground is a pretty poorly understood concept, which is often used as a somewhat magical shorthand for lower potential. Grady over at Practical Engineering has as good a dive into grounds as I've seen called "Where Does Grounded Electricity Actually Go?" It's worth the watch
There's a youtuber named styropyro that builds super lasers and messes with huge homemade capacitor banks for fun. He seems incredibly knowledgeable on electricity and its dangers. Dude's nuts. He's also spoken about the homemade fractal woodburning devices that have killed people. He says you touch the wrong spot and you're a corpse before you hit the floor.
@HellfireDraco and styropryo is absolutely correct - "Hey babe, hit the switch while I hold the probes on this piece of wood." (soon to be widow throws switch) BZZZZZT Widow: "I guess I'm having Jim-Bob Fricassee tonight"!
Love Styro's stuff! He's insane! 😂
All the top content people who regularly more or less play with high voltage are extremely aware of the safety risks and what they can and cannot do. Every single one of them also says microwaves are super mega dangerous n to never take em apart
Drake is definitely a mad scientist but he takes safety very seriously, as everyone really should.
It's worse when you touch the wrong spot and manage to live.
“Me and the team researched this for a couple of hours”
Cut to clip of John “you were supposed to research this shit!”
14:30 For anyone wondering, the woman’s name is Anne Reardon. She’s an Australian content creator and owner of the channel How to Cook That. The warning video itself was actually taken down by UA-cam because it advocated harmful activity.
Just so no one misunderstands OP, her video wasn’t promoting anything, UA-cam just cited that as the reason for removal. She was actually actively and vehemently warning people about how dangerous it was and telling them NOT to try it because it was killing people.
I found ironic that they struck her video where she warns people and brings attention to the issue of YT refusing to remove the fractal videos, but then continue to refuse to remove the actual fractal burning videos stating they don’t break guidelines.
@@nickyn1083Thank you for the clarification. I watched the video before YT took it down, and made sure to watch it again when she was allowed to repost it. The amount of people who decided against fractal woodburning after watching her video is insanely high, and thank goodness for that!
YT finally reinstated the video, but yeah, its insane they removed it but left all the really dangerous ones up.
She's known to copy other people's videos / idea. Copied Megalag's own investigation video on colour blind glasses with no credit.
I LOVE HER, she's awesome and SUPER SMART. I just watched her make cotton candy kind of out of melted jolly ranchers. It was weird. She's weird. Great channel. Awesome accent.
It's my understanding that Dado stacks are banned in Europe because power tools must come to a stop in under 10 seconds, and the additional mass of the stack makes that harder on the motor.
That is my understanding as well.
They are not banned at all, it's just a myth. You can buy dado stacks, dado blades etc. They are used a little less over here because shapers are quite popular, and we usually use those if it's not in sheet goods.
Not exactly. Dados aren't illegal just aren't compatible with the security solutions. Most (table) saws have some kind of active braking solution which usually stops the blade within 2-3 seconds (btw. that's super useful). Because that brake happens quite instantly the momentum of the heavy dado stack could loosen the locking nut on the arbor. (I was managed to do once with a standard 254mm blade on a jobsite saw when I wasn't payed enough attention to pull properly the nut so it's definitely a thing.
Larger, heavier blades even use those extra holes to lock the blade on the arbor preventing the possibility of spinning.
@@johannes.f.r.you are so right use mine as and when I have to from Oxford England
Its illegal to sell and for business with employees to use them if im correct, individuals can use them. If you can get ahold of a set that is. I actually bought a wobble blade from ebay and had it shipped to the netherlands. Works fine once you get it right. Just is a huge pain to set up because only way to get it accurate is by trial and error (width of dado and distance from the fence also), probably the reason it went extinct
For someone who allegedly researched for hours about fractal burning, you got every electrical term wrong lol
He's from Pittsburgh what do you expect?
I came here to read comments about that hahahah
Why the chainsaw disc is so dangerous is because it mimics the tip of a chainsaw bar….which is the part that causes chainsaws to kickback into you. Being circular, no matter which direction you use it from, you are courting a kickback. When a chainsaw kicks at least the length of the bar provides some inertia and the longer the bar the less it can get to your face. The chain disc has zero length and if it grabs the wood it will spin the tool right around on you. It will be sudden, a snatch too quick to react to. It might spin around onto your hand, or groin or into your clothing and run up into your neck, chewing you exactly how you’d expect the tip of a chainsaw to do. If the idea of a running chain saw being thrust into your neck sounds horrific…it is because it is, and using this chain disc is just asking for serious injury or death, no exaggeration!
OK, I just p--ped my pants.
So true. The tip of the bar is the danger zone- so it should be a great plan to ONLY use the tip of the bar in our product. Would love to see their liability insurance carrier's fine print.
I've used one of these and had it grab before, the electric motor inside my grinder wasn't strong enough to rip from my hands. Still I used it without knowing the safety risks and won't be trying that wheel again.
After Stumpy Nubs tried carving with that chainsaw disk he almost had stumpy nubs. It took him months to recover from that. He also did a very good video on what should be in a first aid kit and how it should be stored because of it, especially for us single-man shops.
this is the comment I came here for
when i heard its a chainsaw chain on a angel grinder, i noped away from that thing immediately. i do not trust a chain can stay on my angel grinder for long when i put sideway pressure on it while spinning at 7000+ RPM. All it takes is for the chain to expand in length a little bit due to heat expansion, then it wont be a tight fit to the housing disc anymore, putting sideway pressure in that scanario is just begging for it to cam out. nope, nope, dont like, fuck that, nope.
@@acrazydurian the good thing is that once the chain is loose, it starts reducing energy immediately and is less dangerous.. it’s just that in between time while it is part way attached that the danger level is astronomical.
Stumpy Nubs was an idiot. When he kicked it on he was holding it with one hand not paying attention. That was his own fault not the tools
I've been doing fractal burning for the better part of 5 years now... although I refer to it by it's technical name; a Lichtenburg figure. Yes, it's dangerous... yes, people have been killed doing it... and EVERY single case that I've investigated has been for the same reason; handheld probes... very much like the one you featured here. My rig, which is 100% homemade with transformers salvaged from old microwaves, puts out over 4,000V at 60mA, and is completely no-touch... and I researched it for several months in every aspect before I even attempted it the first time. I have VERY strict safety protocols when I'm working and I've demonstrated the process to countless guests in my shop without any issues. Excellent video and I agree with you 100% in one category; safety. :) Respect what the tool is capable of and it can't hurt you.
Scott, thank you for not being a prick. Also, congrats on having huge balls, because i know many men who wouldnt dare do what you do hahaah
Just for fun and safer for the ones who are scared you can the unit from a stun gun and some.18650 batteries it does the same thing on a smaller scale and altho i havent been shocked my it yet id imagine ya wont die cuz ths lack of power
I have a similar rig that's much more redneck than yours but they key is the no touch aspect. I won't even plug it in without already having the screws and wires set and I hold onto the power plug with both hands until I'm done and unplug it. Anything less is too damgerous and I agree with the video here. Absolutely would never recommend it to anyone for fear that they kill themselves by being any less safe
@@JohnMaleckiUnscrewed... I was arc-flash certified for a number of years doing I.T. ... and I've seen what high voltage can do to a human body. I take ZERO chances. 😉
If someone died doing that they were doing it wrong
Just something to keep in mind regarding the fractal woodburning: Two of the people that died attempting this were trained electricians. You can be wearing insulating gloves and have them melted onto your hands. Just don't do it, a lightning pattern on wood is not worth your life.
Even professionals get into a pattern of bad habits. Only they know if they followed every safety step and clearly did not. Disconnect the power source before touching it even if it is by switch, again it was “negligible”
Wtf does him being an electrician have to do with anything? They just work with manufactured hardware that operates under very specific circumstances. They don’t know anything about high voltage electronics or industrial design.
@@Christopher_Gibbons Wait, do electricians in the US not learn how a transformer works and that it won't trip the MCB if you were to get electrotuted by a device that uses one, since there's no change of resistance on the side of the transformer that's connected to the power supply?
@@beardiemom No. in the US household electricians and high voltage electricians have radically different educational requirements. Regular electricians never work with high voltage transformers, and they have no idea how to safely handle 10kv.
@@Christopher_Gibbons As someone from outside the US, I am disturbed but not surprised that electricians don't have to learn the basics of how electronic devices function.
In 1979 my dad and I went in together and bought a new Craftsman tables saw, radial arm saw, and lathe. These are all still in my shop. We also got some accessories, one of which was this exact Craftsman wobble dado. Over the years I have built probably a dozen different cabinets and bookshelves as well as other projects using the wobble dado. I still have it in my shop. I used it mostly on the radial arm saw to rabbet half-laps for face frames. I've also used it to cut dadoes for inserting the metal strips for adjustable shelves on bookcases using the table saw. The scariest part of it is when using the radial arm saw is the guard won't fit. You have to use it without any guard at all, so you have this spinning wheel of death very near hands and face. The other disadvantage of the wobble dado, it doesn't cut a square bottom dado. The wider the groove, the less square it is. Another funny thing...years ago I bought a set of stackable angles washers that let you turn a regular saw blade into a wobble dado! Also scary and won't cut square bottom dados. A few years ago I did finally spring for an actual stacking dado. Much nicer!
I also used a Craftsman wobble for years with no issues. I finally changed to a stacked dado for the exact disadvantages as you listed.
The 10" Craftsman radial arm saw I had, Sears did sell a special blade guard for the wobble Dado. I used it for a few years until I could afford to buy the Freud stacked set. The non-flat bottom Dado it cut was the main reason I replaced it... the Dado, blade guard and the radial arm saw haven't seen action in decades. I guess we were lucky, using that Dado, in addition to the radial arm saw "death trap" 😉
John; ' This is so dangerous, no one should try this! Let's give it a shot."
You selling hotdogs John?
Fly was down half of the video 😂
Well, when he said: "I can't measure 5 inches - that looks about 5, right? " - Now you know why.
@lockechrisj It was incase he lost his fingers. He could still have a p**s 😱
Why you looking? 🤔
@lockechrisj It was incase he lost his fingers. He could still have a p**s 😱
As someone who has used the adjustable dado blade from craftsman since I was in my 20's......I'm 62 now, the only problem with the adjustable dado is it takes trial and error to get the width of the dado just right. Once you get the width right, it cuts just fine and is no more dangerous to use than any other blade. I will admit that I prefer a dado stack. Just follow one simple rule to avoid injuring yourself while working with tools.......Don't be a dumbass.
I also had an adjustable dado years ago before I could afford a stack set. I never felt like it was unsafe. The major drawback is that it doesn't make a flat-bottomed dado. Because the blade oscillates, the center of the dado is deeper than the edges. That makes it really difficult to assemble a project since the glue migrates to the deeper part. It really sucks.
and, "always remember to wear these, safety glasses". norm abrams
That chainsaw disk says "1400 Max RPM" on it. Angle grinders spin at 10,000+ RPM... Scary!
@@Gecko88exactly! I mean, they really meant 14,000 right? It’ll be fine! 😅
I have a couple of them and have never had any issues using them. As with any tool, common sense goes a looooong way.
I have one that i bought over the counter in the UK, (so much for banned), its a scary thing to use because its very grabby, the speed is much lower than standard grinder speed, fortunately(?)my grinder has a speed control so i tried it, its 100 percent use the deathgrip handle and guard !If you are careful its great for carving, but the danger is if you get deeper into the wood it can catch its own channel and twist violently,same as a chainsaw kicks back but faster.If you are into carving a real chainsaw or a small carving chainsaw will do the job more predictably.
@@MrDeepwoodticklesslower speeds are actually going to promote more "grabbing"!
@@MicroRotors Exactly - only becomes dangerous when you add stupid.
You have grounded and insulated backwards. The rubber mat insulates you from being grounded. The More You Know.
which is exactly why people are dying
Don't blame the tool, blame the operator. when I was 15, I put a ten- or twelve-inch table saw rip blade on a nine-inch Milwaukee angle grinder without any type of blade guard foolishly thinking that I could cut a large timber much faster than using a hand saw. You think a chainsaw disc on a four-inch grinder is dangerous, you ain't seen nothing yet! I'm 66 and still have everything that I originally came with and everything works. Lucky for me when I pulled the trigger and spun it up to operating speed and started the cut, the blade grabbed and ripped the grinder from me and that was that. A fantastic learning experience with a lucky outcome that taught me to think about how things are going to act befor doing something stupid.
I remember playing with a fractal burner my dad made 30 years ago. No safety or precautions at all. I remember holding the tool almost drawing with it. Looking back probably not so smart. Thanks Dad.
I love the fractal burn patterns. Looks like lightning. But that's just me.
Or trees!
It's looks really good if you clean it up and fill it in with epoxy afterwards
I like it too
Better than river tables.
@@steelsunpi Was going to say, river or fractal, same childish esthetic.
About a year ago my grandpa passed away, while going through his woodworking tools I found one of those wobble dado blades.
I'm soooo glad you brought up James Hamilton from Stumpy Nubs. That’s honestly the first thing I thought of the second you mentioned that disc. I personally only use my grinder for metal and masonry and have no plans to try power carving with it, but if I did, I would run as fast as I could away from that disc
3:06 your fly is down, and questionable saw blades. What can go wrong.. or did it?!?!😂
. Gf was watching the video with me. And goes “someone’s flying low”. My grandpa always said what can’t get up can’t get out. Great channel. Have a good sir.
I reckon you should have linked the Ann Reardon video explaining how and why it's dangerous, it includes how safety gear was ineffective and how electricians have been victims.
Because "it looks dumb" is only going to convince people who value your opinion on aesthetics
The problem with some dado stacks is that due to the weight they will keep on turning for longer than desired. They're not really banned in Europe though, it's more that table saw manufacturers can't sell their saws with them installed or state that they're compatible with them if they don't add heftier brakes on them, which is expensive.
You can and has always been allowed to buy them yourself both from any decent store in Europe or import it from e.g. the US.
Dude I’m calling it. This channel is gonna be huge. I definitely predict a mill subscribers by 2025
Licensed Journeyman Electrician here, who's also an avid woodworker; fractal can be done safely, but unless you're basically a clone of me (being a sparky and a woodworker), you probably won't do it safely or even know how. Do NOT do this shit. This is more dangerous that what Stuntmen do, because the risk of death is so much higher. Just don't fuck with it. It isn't worth it.
How about a wobble dado blade on your radial arm saw? I have a friend with this set-up. I encourage him on the regular to get rid of the whole mess.
Your friend must not value his life lol
Wobble (drunk) saw on a radial arm saw is great for trenching just need to watch the grab
nothing wrong in that saw just a pain lining up for your cut
on the fractal burning, i have seen something similar done on epoxy but for that ppl shoot one large arc through the epoxy to get the lightning effect but that needs way more power since u shoot the lightning bolt through the epoxy
the way that works is u have positive and negative points on the work piece "negative being the ground" and then u build a large charge that u pass on the work piece by tapping on the positive point on the work piece and the bolt jumps on the negative point. its neat but hella dangerous
This whole video reminds me of weather people standing out in hurricanes telling us don't go out in the hurricane.
Like the one where he's really fighting the wind and two guys casually walk by him in the background?
Honestly, your videos are incredible. I'm not into woodworking, or carpentry, for that matter, but I came across one of these videos and was absolutely entertained and watched to completion. Thank You.
There seems to be a myth about dado stacks beeing banned in germany - they are not. As long as your table saw is build to support the use of dado stacks. More specific if the shaft is long enough to let you use the dado stacks and still has enough thread fasten to the nut. If the manufacturer of your table saw say. that a saw doesn't support a dado, than you will use them on your own risk. If something happens, it will be your fault. If something happens during work hours at your job, than you might get in trouble with the insurance, for missusing your table saw. So it is a liability thing and not the fact, that germany think dado's are dangerous.
I have used Craftsman wobble dado blades since 1981(l still have two) and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with them. They work perfectly fine and are not unsafe in absolutely ANY way. Until my best friend and I combined our wood shops about ten tears ago, I never even HAD a dado stack, I used the Wobble for every dado project I ever did. I found it hilarious that the host seemed to struggle with how it works. I figured it out when I was 13, and I'm quite sure there are young wood workers under that age that could figure it out.
the number of activated Saw Stop cartridges you have is kind of concerning. I hope that they went off due to the blade hitting something in the wood, and not hitting you or your guys. . . :-) Also, I do know a guy who does the fractal burning; I do think that in some cases it looks interesting, but i'm not going to do it. I freely admit that I do have a tendency to get complacent with my tools, and I've been lucky enough to not get hurt yet. That one however, yeah no. I don't play with electricity.
Sawstops are made for people like them. They have no proper security and methodology when woodworking. At least it makes for fun UA-cam content though.
They are easy to activate. You can activate it with a green piece of lumber.
Some laminate will trigger it
The modified microwave units are capacitors, which can hold a charge after they are turned off. Even if you do things right, it's there, waiting for you to complete a circuit.
@@damondiehl5637, only some are.
Unlike what is stated, these do not produce microwaves. They put out the same frequency put into them (e.g., 60 hz).
You should have used that wobble dado blade on the Shopsmith. Too bad you got rid of a great tool. Scott even made a special trip to teach you how to use it.
That kutzall disk is the same one that I dropped on my foot at 11000 rpm! I was wearing my safety sandals, but there was still many stitches, a full month on crutches and almost lost a toe. Wear your safety gear folks, even at home. 😂
Finally a product that's truthful in its advertising. It really does kutz all. I bet it's not very effective on hardened steel though.
The worst part of the wobble saw blade is it does not leave a flat bottom. Other then that they are no better or worse a stacked dado set. I never liked them though. Keep in mind a lot of the older home table saws used buy non pros didnt have the power for the (more expensive) stacked dado sets. In that time span (late 60s and into the mid 70s) I just used a 1hp router with stright bits.
Dado stacks aren't banned. The issue is only in commercial settings and is you can't use them without a blade gaurd at least in the uk
I have used a wobble dado many times and they are really no worse than a stack dado but they don’t cut a flat bottom and that chainsaw carving blade gives me the Willie’s ! 3:52
One of the first major woodworking tools I bought was a 10 inch Radial arm saw from Sears some 35 years ago and I loved it. This is the tool I use the exact same Wobble Dado blade on that you were demonstrating. It is easy to adjust to the exact width that you want, and by making multiple passes when it's set at the widest cut of 3/4 of an inch you can make grooves as wide and deep as you want. The only thing I have found when I use it is to push the blade into the wood, because if you try to draw it across the wood and it bits, it has a tendency to tear across the wood.I like the radial saw because you can see where the blade is cutting as apposed to a table saw where the blade is hidden by the wood. My cousin Is a cabinet maker in Holland and he told me that he has never seen a Radial saw before. I have noticed in all the wood working shows that I have watched on UA-cam, I've never seen anyone use a radial arm saw. Why is that?
You're confusing grounded with insulated.
I got a pucker when he was touching the fractal burner without the gloves, I don't know if they are absent in the fractal setup but microwaves often have high power capacitors as part of the power circuitry that is being DIY rigged and the internet kits are often just doing that DIY for you so there is still a risk of getting a nasty shock when it is not actively operating.
You don’t use the capacitor in a microwave oven Lichtenberg device.
I used a wobble dato for years before I got the stack dato set. I never had an issue with it but the big problem was that the bottom of the dato was rounded because of the offset. I have put my old wobble to rest and will stick with the stack.
I been using the wobble dato for 22 years and still do.
I was going to say exactly this. The rounding isn't nearly as bad on more narrow cuts, but it's still quite noticeable. If I just need a super quick dado that doesn't have to be super accurate, I'll give a spin. Otherwise, use the stack.
Quickly becoming one of my favourite channels. Recommending it to all of my friends/family. I have done woodworking for 10 years now. Still lots to learn!
I bought one of those chainsaw wheels for a project, then I saw Stumpy Nubs video, I have never used it; when it comes to the project I got it for, I'll use my actual chainsaw or a power carving disc.
Fractal wood burning….
Yes, it’s super dangerous!
But you’re crazy John!
It looks FREAKIN AWESOME!!!
I don't think dado stacks are actually banned in europe, they're just not common because saws need to be able to brake and stop fast. So manufacturers don't bother making longer arbors. Also, small shapers (sometimes integrated into a single sliding table saw/shaper/thicknesser/etc) are a lot more common in Europe than they are in NA, that's what people traditionally use. Which kind of shows that the issue with dado stacks is not really safety (because a shaper is pretty damn good at removing stuff that isn't wood), just different habits/traditions.
Definitely agree about fractal burning, it looks cheesy as fuck and the fact that someone would risk their life for this shit boggles the mind.
They are banned and illegal here :)
European style sliding table saws (so not like the sawstop bolt-on attachment) are also somewhat incompatible with dado stacks, because there isn't much space between a normal saw blade and the sliding table. So you couldn't fit very wide stacks.
They aren't banned or illegal in the UK. They are not allowed in commercial shops due to Health & Safety Executive (HSE) rules that cover the fact that the crown guard needs to be removed (nothing to do with riving knife as the video guy states, you don't need a riving knife when cutting a dado or rebate). But, these rules only cover commercial users, it's neither banned nor illegal for a domestic/hobby/non-commercial user to use a dado blade IF they can find a saw that will take one due to the short arbor situ you cover above.
However, several manufacturers now produce overhead crown guards that satisfy the HSE rules and are becoming more common.
I have one in my own small business shop (still covered by HSE rules) that I bought from a UK company, the saw, dado stack and the OH crown guard are all supplied by the same company and are good to use.
"I thought you researched this"
"me and the team researched this for hours"
At 8:29 literally telling us to avoid dangling things while wearing a hoodie with dangling cords 😂
You are the king👑 of youtube
So I have done Fractal burning myself with the same kit you bought. It's much slower than some other peoples because it's lower voltage. The ones that go really fast are absolutely dangerous. Like you I bought a dead mans switch and I back away when doing this. I have gotten shocked through the gloves a couple of times but I have gotten a decent burn out of it on one of my projects. I think it's just a mater of taste for if you like the burn effect or not.
If you're getting shocked through your gloves you need to check them for pin holes and replace them if they have any. Also standing on a rubber mat and making sure you're not grounded will also reduce the risk of shock
@@NOLENATION96 I'll double check my gloves. I am pretty sure what was happening is that since my hands weren't placed correctly and I kept grabbing metal bits and that was causing me to get shocked. However, if I do it now I set it and back away. I don't want to get hurt.
I also do it on the lawn for some better grounding than a shop floor or driveway. Don't know if that is any better than actually getting a rubber mat though.
@WhiteWolfman426 if you have rubber electrical gloves you should be safe from shock even if touching the metal directly unless of course your set up is putting out more voltage than what your gloves are rated for. As for doing it on the lawn thats worse in terms of safety for you. The idea behind putting a rubber mat under your feet is so that you're not grounded. If you're not grounded you won't be shocked because you have no reference to ground think of it like how birds can land on electrical power lines but not get shocked because they're not grounded.
@WhiteWolfman426 actually what you're referring to that increases the burn rate would be the amperage. You can hit a human with 100kv with 500 milliamps and never do any damage of consequence with a quick zap from a spark plug wire, take that same 100kv and 50 amp rapid zap and it's likely to mortally wound or be fatal to the individual that catches the millisecond arc.
@@WhiteWolfman426 you should have leather electrician gloves underneath the rubber ones pretty sure. Also blow your gloves up like a balloon if its doesn't inflate you have a puncture and need the get new rubbers rated electrician gloves
Thank you, John, for the information in this video. This needs to be spread far & wide at how freaking dangerous fractal burning is.
I really wish content creators would stop perpetuating the idea that dado stacks are illegal in Europe. It's just not true, and it's an easy thing to debunk.
And understanding the details of why they're rare in the EU is a really good way to understand the dangers of dado stacks so you can use them safely.
I've got one in the UK. It came with "EU APPROVED" written on it.
This video annoys me SOOO much. It's full of a bunch of misinformation.
The wobble dado: It's putting a lot of forces on your table saw that they're just not built for. It's a whole lot of mass off center with high momentum. Sure, the idea seems convenient. It's less messing around with lots of parts. But it's a whole lot of mass that's being used in a relatively uncontrolled way.
Okay, comments about the power carver are fair...
The fractal stuff... Hoo boy!
You state in the video that you and your team did hours of research... and you keep talking about how dangerous it is BUT you immediately undermine that with misinformation! Like you respect it so much you're not going to talk about it any sort of an accurate or helpful way.
The rubber mat for example: It doesn't make you more grounded. More grounded would be standing there barefooted with nothing between you and the earth. The point is to make it more difficult for your body to become part of the circuit. i.e. NOT GROUNDED. So if someone is watching that and they take your words seriously, they'll know that to become more grounded they should be essentially planted in the ground - which is a whole lot less safe.
You plant so much of your dissuasion in the aesthetic of the technique when tastes are subjective. If people didn't like the result, they wouldn't be trying to make it. It's just a terribly argument to make when the argument you should be making is "It's freakin' unsafe. To get better results, it gets less and less safe".
You keep throwing out terms, which again, you said had been researched, without regard to what they actually mean. Compressing frequencies etc. when you can't even be bothered to learn about the relationship between wattage, current and voltage and what any of it means.
Putting this information out there in this way, where you're blatantly not giving the dangerous subject matter the respect it deserves, is irresponsible at best.
You can do better.
You are not "using microwaves." You are using a transformer to get a higher voltage.
YES, grounding is your enemy when playing with high voltage.
On the other hand, mocking battery cables OR any low dielectric (low insulation) cables is a worthy endeavor. You want as much rubber between you and 10 volts or better as you can get.
Skydiving without a chute is safer than the chainsaw angle grinder
I mean the fractal burning hatred is silly. Only idiots will harm themselves if they have no idea what they are doing, but it's perfectly safe if done correct in a safe environment.
There is a significant difference between an idiot and someone who is ignorant?
More than one electrician has been killed or injured when he was ignorant of a problem on a job site. Something as simple as a nail driven into a wall can set the stage for a dangerous or lethal problem.
Hey John! The algorithm brought this video on my TV last night (have not subscribed the unscrewed channel yet). Here is a perspective from a European point of view from a 60 Year old guy doing DiY for about 50 years that might bust some myths around Europe and safety:
1. the wobble stack. I grew up with German DiY machines of the 60ies. There was a famous "Bosch Combi" set, which could practically be turned into everything, powered by a power drill. The table saw came with wobble disks that let you cut dados up to 16mm. My dad and I used it frequently but the results were mediocre since no carbide tipped sawblades were available those days.
Eventually a real table saw moved in and put an end to this technique. It hasn't been officially banned in general, but you were not allowed to use wobble stacks in professional workshops. In the mean, they might fall in general under the European Machine Guideline, which bans machines from being sold, that do not have state of the art safety standards (I guess this is similar to the discussions in the U.S. about Saw Stop Technology in table saws). However privately you are still allowed to use wobble stacks if you have them. I do not shed a single tear...
The same legal situation is BTW around dado stacks over here. The ban was for professional use. And since no jobsite table saw had an arbor long enough to accept a dado stack, there was no way to use it privately (except for the DeWalt 7492, but you had to import the stack from the U.S. since no one bothered to sell them here).
I was itrigued by the dado stack, when I was in the states around 1992, absorbing practically every episode of This Old House and New Yankee Workshop (thanks Norm!). I always wanted to have one and now since the real safety concerns here in Europe were ruled out, I will get one - together with a DeWalt. The concern was, that if the stack is assembled to loosely, the chippers might shift position and the carbide tips, standing proud of the blade, might be sheared off and fly around in the shop.
The newly approved stack rsolves this by locking spacers, that hold the parts of the stack in position.
2. The Chainsaw Blade for woodcarving: Unfortunately there is no legal ban on this "thing" (I refuse to call it tool), due to one loophole in the EU-Machines Directive. It is - as the name says - only for machines and not for tools. This means an angle grinder sold equipped with sich a thing is banned as a machine, the thing alone is not. Sad but true. Professionals are not allowed to use them, because we have a local German authority that sets guidelines for Professional Workshop Safety. But I have found such suicide-equipment even in the Home Depot equivalent here in Germany.
For me a clear entry ticket to the annual Darwin Award Finals 😉.
3. Fractal Burning - John you gotta be kidding me! Never heard of this nonsense. Thanks for showing this, even though I am seriously concerned, that the curiosity of your European viewers will help to spill this over to us here. When I was young, I rebuilt old radios to valve amplifiers for my guitar (still not sure how I managed to survive childhood). One thing was clear from day one. There is high voltage inside and the principle rule was called "left hand in your pocket" rule - so you were never able to touch one pole with your right and the other with your left hand (which sends the current right through your heart).
To set it in perspective: a microwave transformer delivers around 2000V at approx. 1A. An electrical chair is operated at about the same values. Even though these devices are banned in Europe (the chairs, not the microvawe), this shoud keep everyone from doing such stupid things. Even if you get hold of proper electrical insulation gloves (which are around 60$), they are rated only up to 1000V.
BTW you do not need to bother with insulation to the ground. The electricity comes from a transformer! This means no pole is bonded to ground potential. But don't jump for joy - this also means, that no RCD will trip, when you electrocute yourself. In this case you are IMHO not even elegible for the Darwin Award, because you are simply dumb and showed no respect for electricity 🤣😂🤣.
And John, I agree with you. These burnmarks look disgusting on a fine piece of hardwood. Even MDF is too precious for this.
Cheers and greetings from over the pond!
Andreas
You're using the lichtenburg machine, or fractal burner wrong. Like the technique or not, don't discredit it by not testing properly.i enjoy watching your videos but you should do a little more research.
Exactly!
I understand he's entitled to his opinion, but his opinion has clouded his willingness to use it properly
Safety isn't an opinion, whether or not he tested it wrong.
As a woodworker and artist that uses epoxy as well as fractal burning... Also I should add in my degrees in computer science and electrical engineering... Fractal burning can be extremely dangerous and should not be done by most DIYers... But with proper design and safety precautions it can be done effectively as well as safely. and also can make some beautiful art. FYI I am guessing the device you got from Amazon is very underpowered.
This is hilarious~!! I remember first seeing the wobble dado cutter years ago when they came out and thought "what a janky idea~!! Someone's gonna get maimed, killed, or worse~!!" LOLOL
Thanks for this one, John~!
Back in high school our wood shop class, late '80's,we used the wobble dado blade. It worked great and no one ever got hurt by it.
Those chainsaw chain heads, they are just one big kick zone. So dangerous! Well done raising awareness
Never even heard of the fractal burning, (seems I didn't miss much) but when I was working in scene shops in the 80's the wobble style dado blades were still in use. Never had a problem using them as long as you did a series of shallow cuts instead of trying to clear the material in one pass. I also remember seeing the Lancelot ads in higher end woodworking magazine. Even though our jobs sometimes required carving wood and foam, none of us would even consider putting our hands that close to a chainsaw blade on an angle grinder.
Most electricians use the Lancelot carver for cutting holes in dimensional lumber, we use them to cut box holes and conduit passages, there was even a company a few years ago selling a 7 inch version. Good tools but you got to use your head. Just like the wobble, I have a radial arm saw with a wobble on it that never leaves, great tool, use it every other day or so.
Tools that are “banned” in Europe … or the UK if you’re me… are banned from a commercial point of view.
You can buy and use them privately but the government would prefer you didn’t.
But we still do because LOLZ
I used one of those wobble dado blades for five years making cabinets and bookcases. Worked great for us, I didn't even know they were banned, haha.
When I first saw those chain saw grinder blade... I thought "that thing will kill you and it's going to hurt the whole time!"
That mugshot of Tim "the toolman" Taylor @ 0:08 from his cocaine bust cracked me up.
He's definitely a tool because he snitched to get out of prison time
Remember kids a microwave transformer and a potentiometer is a poor man’s buzz box
Every time i see the Ron Swanson picture I'm reminding that... "Do you exercise? Ron, "Yes, love-making and woodworking"
I thought it was a picture of Stalin at first.
The wobble blade is not meant to be used in a table saw, it is for a spindle moulder (shaper). Used one for years with no problems as it is always shielded by guide fences and a power-feed roller
"If you are considering doing this... DON'T" 🤣🤣
The Lancelot disc is perfectly fine. I use them daily carving Wood Sculptures. If you have issues using it go to Home Depot walk up to the pro desk and tell them you need a set of man wrists
FLY IS DOWN AT 3:28
"rubber mat so im more grounded"...that would make you LESS grounded xD
Had an elderly family friend that was a former doctor use one of those chainsaw cutters all the time in a palm grip setup to make bowls and other rounded wood pieces.
I have and use the chainsaw blade on the grinder… it works and can do cool stuff, but I bought it at HARBOR FREIGHT! IT is the only tool I have that scares me… I always have the image of it whipping around and 10,000 rpms of dis-embowlment! Geeeeze… ok, I haven’t used it for a few years… the microwave transformer has nothing to do with microwaves. It’s just a cheap transformer you can make the tool on the cheap from parts at the dump. It’s low voltage, but it’s serious current. It’s just ELECTRICITY! no microwaves!! Haha! Great video!
in my high school electrical class we made one of those wood burning microwave things
“Sorry if your kids are watching” - literally just watched this and the drill battle w/ my 4 y/o. You silly, entertaining, potty mouthed bastard 😂. Great content - keep it up!!
I haven't had as much fun watching videos as I did this time. I strongly agree that many unusual tools people have come up with are extremely dangerous to use, and the fractal wood burning is one of the worst.
One I've come across is a weighed cable in place of the line on a weed Wacker, and even worse, a table saw blade on the same .😮I personally wouldn't try either one, but I've seen both advertised in various places.
I remember using wobble dado blades in shop class at school. Lol glad to know we survived way back then.
"If your doing it, fk you" proceeds to do it...
Tools only really become dangerous when you get too comfortable with them. Always stay a tiny bit afraid and keep a healthy amount of respect.
Really enjoy your videos. Don’t enjoy the 10 minute ads.
I've used the wobble dado on my unisaw for 50 years without issue...I don't use it often but the results have always been satisfactory
John, you have now, in detail, explained 3 things that I have zero desire to ever to try. Great reenforcement!! However, I am old enough that I do remember that my father had a wobble dado from Sears. I threw it away decades ago.
I remember something similar to fractal burning, but it involved glass and cracking it with a current to create a similar pattern
It also happens in like, a fraction of a second.
Fractal burning only looks cool because it is letting you see electricity moving through a solid.
It obviously isn't worth dying for but it is very neat if you have extensive previous experience with high voltage electronics.
I remember using the wobble dato cutter in highschool, my shop teaher hated them cause the sound and vibration of them would like put students in a daze, I remember when he got a dato stack for the shop, never seen a man more happy to be incharge of 30 teenagers in a woodshop
Ladies and gentleman, the kit he has, I personally own. It works fantastically, and I get orders for fractal burnt pieces regularly. One of my top 3 requests on orders so his opinion aside, a lot of people like it. The one we have is from a neon sign. And instead of painting the entire board with water, ur only supposed to just paint the water brush width up to, I do about 6 to 7 inches. Takes a lot less time when u direct the current where to go with the water. If u want to do it, buy the kit. It's not expensive, and it's a lot of fun
I own that dado blade by craftsman, bought it in the late 90's. Works great, especially on smaller saws! Is difficult to set the size exactly, but with a little time you can get good cuts. Just used mine last December to make new kitchen drawers and shaker cabinet doors and drawer fronts. I will accept a new stack set if you got one laying around, lol.
I was gonna say, basically I’ll use any tool unless it involves putting a wood cutting blade on an ANGLE GRINDER!!! LMAO
Love these fun and uplifting positive videos to help me through the day. All the positivity of a rainbow unicorn
I remember using a wobble-head dado head when in high school during wood classes. They worked great but we almost never used them without the instructor checking the setup.
You have my anxiety at 100 watching this! 😂 I’m literally yelling at my screen, “DONT DO IT, JOHN!!!!”
On fractal burning: it's not just that it can stop your heart, it's that it can flash-boil whatever part(s) of you that end up touching it, so if you DO survive, you will almost certainly not do so unaltered
You had me until 9:37 when you appear to grab the blade of a plugged in death trap … 😂