Can You Use A Gravel Bike As A Road Bike?
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- Hello, welcome back! So I've been asked this question a few times and have always wanted to try it out. Can you use a gravel bike as a road bike? I hope you enjoy the vlog and it answers some of the questions. Remember to Like, Comment and Subscribe.
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As long as you're not racing, the answer to most such questions is 'yes'.
so road bike as gravel bike? YES!
facts!
@AG Coarseman if I go offroad, I use Mountain Bikes
@AG Coarseman and if I go abroad, I use my passport
@AG Coarseman I tend to lean towards buying an Ibis HAkka MX? toughts on that?
Bought my proper bike, a Cannondale Topstone 5 Carbon, I am genuienly blown away by this bike, the range of 2 by, I absolutely love the road bike handle bars and the ability to shred in the dirt, bravo for the gravel bike movement.
This was my intention when I was getting my first gravel bike. To have one bike to fit all my rides. So I got myself Canyon Grail with 2by drivetrain and set of Fulcrum Racing DB5 wheels. I even opted for 11 - 28 cassette for roadwheels since I ride mostly flats. so having 2by gravel bike with more or less equal geometry to endurance bike of same brand with extra wheelset is totally equal having two bikes to me. Usually after heavy rainfalls I go for pure tarmac spin, though having 28mm tires still gives me an option to take shortcut via unpaved road or path. Narrow road tires fitted to bike with 42mm tire clearance look a bit awkward, but hey.. you dont have bike for looking at it. Grail on roadwheels feels great, nimble responsive and most importantly to me, comfy.
I second this. I bought the Di2 Grail and an extra set of wheels and I am ready to go. I do have other bikes as well S-Works SL3 Tarmac, Giant OCR aluminium frame with 10 speed Ultegra for commuting, Giant TCR Advanced T-Mobile, the pink and black team bike, and a 1982 Raleigh Corsa with Dura-Ace 7800 and down tube shifters and ridiculously expensive tubular wheels but the Grail has become my go to bike
Merida Silex 400 2018, 48/32 Chainring; Merida Comp SL Gravel wheelset rolling on Maxxis Razzo 35mm, Shimano 11-34 cassette and 105 chain; DT-Swiss 470db rolling on WTB Exposure Tubeless 36mm sleeks, Shimano 11-28 Cassette and Ultegra chain. Bike setup is sweet for all my riding abilities and needs. Didn't break the bank either.
@@samuelkmaina That does sound like a great bang for buck combo. Well thought-out. But tyre widths are wide on your road tyre? And you could go wider for your off road tyre? But that just shows how versatile your setup is. I was going to get a gravel bike but was shocked at how great my commuter felt when I just put on some 40mm schwalbe G Ones on it and went tubeless for lower pressure. New gravel bike. Done.
@@liamconnor99 I love comfort hence the wide road tyres. I initially had 26mm Specialised Turbos, they are fast in places but a very hard ride. Gravel biking is about adventure not suffering. Interestingly my average speed hasn't suffered. I guess the difference is more noticeable on much higher speeds.
@@philipjackson8584 I use the wheels that came with the bike on the road, and had a 32 spoke wheel set built with ultegra disk hubs, DT Swiss R500 rims and double butted spokes for gravel. I'm a Clydesdale so 32 spoke is better for gravel for me.
If you have one bike then the gravel bike with road wheels will be your fastest bike👍This is exactly what we have done and it's amazing how the bikes transform into something more responsive with the road wheels on...
So true! I love it! All I need is to be able to get my gravel tyres on my road bike 😂
everything is about the wheels. Geometry and frame material is not really a significant factor
Most bikes are way more versatile than people think.
Exactly Take a cx or hybrid bike. Either are just as fast as any road bike out there just by changing the tires to lighter tires and the front chainring. that's what I call versatility !!
T Mayberry agreed
It's mind games played by marketing departments. More money for the bike company's to convince people they need more and newer bikes.
this guy gets it...
i've been using a cx bike with big fat marathon supremes for everything, gravel, some cross country, road, commute, for years.
The Giant Revolt 2 is the Swiss Army knife of bikes!
I’ve been thinking about this as a replacement idea for my road bike. Great to see you trying it! Lots of great thoughts/comments from others too 👍🏼👍🏼
I just bought a Specialized Diverge. It’s my first gravel bike. I can’t wait to pick it up tomorrow!
I hav head one for about a year (E5 Comp) and I imagine you are have a hoot as well. LOVE mine...all gravel, all day every day...BUT...mine came with Pathfinder 38's, and thinking of swapping out for 32's or 28's...the trails here are fairly hard packed and fast rolling, so no issues there...I keep them up around 60 psi as well..but when I take it on the road, it is a bit of a chore to get up to speed and maintain. Ya..I know..38's? duh. Any recommendations or experience?
What is the smallest gravel tire people have used for both?...and I'm talking well packed gravel and dirt, not squirmy sand and loose stuff.
Greetings from the future, I got one too! Its been a great bike so far, Im happy as a clam on it 😁
Always a pleasure Dave! I used to run really skinny slicks on my mountain bike for commuting. That worked well! It isn't a road bike but it was quick enough and fun.
I used to ride an mtb with slicks back in the messenger days.
we used to, back in the day , had only 1 bike. It had to do it all, no choice. Love the vids Dave
Great video Dave. 2 wheel sets with each having a different cassette based on what you were up to would be ideal wouldnt it. Like you say its never going to be quite as fast but for the vast majority of us that is never going to be a problem and whatever gets you out and about having fun on the bike regardless of terrain/weather has got to be worth it. Great channel mate, loving the vids 👍👌
Great video Dave, I've got a Holdsworth Mystique gravel bike and absolutely love it, have 2 wheelsets and have no issue keeping up with my mates on my aero wheelset, they're just so versatile...to think I've gone from riding on the road to then riding blue/red runs at a trail centre just by changing a wheelset just shows you what they're capable of, keep up the great work 👌🏻
Love these videos, Dave's a solid presenter
It reminds me when I once went on a hardcore trail on a club's steel road bike with shifters on the frame and slick narrow road tires. Obviously my coach wasn't happy when my mate told him about that. The bike was fine
i love my road bike, but i also love my cross bike and it has done miles on and off road. it will never be as quick as my road bike but i normally run limus or grifo tyres in winter and something smoother in summer, it still zipps along with the option of jumping on a trail at random points. best riding ever .
Great video! I basically did the same thing: Since my road bike lives on the turbo in autumn/winter, I got myself a set of 50mm deep carbon wheels with 28mm road tyres for my gravel bike to still be able to ride outside as well (also didn't want to do such an upgrade to my 10 year old rim brake road bike). I noticed that I'm faster now with my gravel bike compared to the shallow wheel setup on my road bike! Gear ratios are also not the biggest problem since the gravel bike has a 2x11 GRX800, so compared to a 50-11as biggest gear, it's 48-11, which is noticeable but in most circumstances it's absolutely fine!
Thank you, sounds like a speedy set up. I wish I had a 48t chain ring on this at times!
Nice one Dave, really informative.
Thanks for not getting into the gritty details of the data. Frankly, this answered my question about road vs gravel without that. Great video.
Glad I could help!
I own a Cervelo Aspero. It is equipped with SRAM Force 1x. I ride a 46 chainring. I basically ride an 11-24 cassette with HED Jet-55s and Conti GP5000TLs on the road and 11-36 with HED Ardennes and Gravel King SK 32s on gravel. I've ridden this frame 4,500 miles - only about 500 off road. I have no trouble riding with A groups averaging 22mph and riding Strava segments over 35mph. I also lead tours at slower speed and ride some gravel. The Aspero is definitely a true all-road bicycle.
Love your accent. So strong. Love it. From Essex myself. Great video 👍🏼
I certainly use my Gravel Bike as a road bike. I have two sets of wheels and cranksets. My Gravel set up is a 48/32 crankset and 11-34 Cassette with 45 mm wide WTB Riddler tires. And then my Road set up is a 50/34 crankset with a 11-30 cassette with 30 mm Continental Grand Prix 5000 tires. I find I can keep up with most roadies with this set up and I still get to explore light gravel with my road set up so it’s always a win win 👌🏼🤪
thanks, you solidfy what I experienced... I took my gravel on a group ride near Austin, TX a few years back, and even though I had road tires on my gravel bike, it just felt substantially hard, due to the "rolling hills effect" as you mentioned. Austin is up and down back to back, rolling hills... so weight does matter. Aero always matters, and optimization equals specificity. But for non racers... it will work just fine.
I've so been waiting for this. Great video mate 👍. I think this is the real world option for 90% of people who don't race but love riding their bike.
Glad you enjoyed it. I agree, it’s probably the best set up the the majority of people that want one bike to do it all.
Just got a KHS steel gravel. Love it. I can’t ride in the old racing position anymore so the geo is nice. Relaxed. I had this question in my head from day 1. Thanks for the great video. I think I’ll pick up a sep set of wheels now. Awesome!
Same reason to me, stop biking for a few years. My body can't ride in a race position anymore. Needed something more relax to ride.
I still thinking should I get Trek Checkpoint carbon or Linskey Titanium, I will check KHS out. thanks for an info
Thank you!
I have a Cinelli Tutto Plus, i use it as Gravel, Bikepacking bike, Road, and fixed gear during the winter :D
Im kind of new to all this road bike stuff as i am the proud owner of an old ralleigh since 3 months now that im working on and modernising a bit under the hood so to say. What is the advantage of having fixed gear during the winter? :)
@@renehaitjema7841 i'm not an expert but for me it's just less maintenance !
@@rdslmi ahhhh okay! Totally understandable, less things that could break ofcourse. Thanks for the reply !
@@renehaitjema7841 less things ghat could break and less things to clean for my lazy ass hehe
@@renehaitjema7841 Mechanically, a fixed gear is more efficient as far as power losses go. You get more out of what you put in and the inertia of the spinning wheel is a real bonus on climbs. That doesn't have much to do with winter.
Besides the simplicity, reliability and very little maintenance in the slopiest months, pedaling always is a great workout and it keeps you warmer due to never coasting. You get a better workout in a shorter period of time. Fixed gears and pedaling always naturally teaches you to pedal properly in circles, instead of simply pushing the pedals. You'd soon realize you have lots more muscles in your legs to put more power to the wheels. Professional road riders used to train fixed often in winter to keep their legs supple. Google the French term 'souplesse'. It refers to a smoothness and expertise in pedaling. Pedaling always builds endurance and stamina. Pedaling always in hilly terrain will train you to pedal at all different cadences and develop muscles you never knew you had.
A single speed will encourage you to pick better lines through obstacles, maintain your momentum better and you are much more aware of what you do on the bike. A lack of gearS forces the rider to concentrate and make a better effort.
A fixed gear allows you to control your speed with your feet and avoid braking too much. In low traction situations such as dirt, sand rain, snow and mud, even ice, a fixed gear gives you a much better sense of traction.
I just love bikes, and this channel
I pretty much solved the problem by changing my 12 speed 10/50 SRAM cassette to a 9/46 E*thirteen cassette (42T chainring) - you sacrifice very little in the climb but gain 10% on the top end - that may not seem like much but it's actually very significant when riding downhill or with a good tailwind.
Nice1 Dave 👍, Dig the shades man, match your hubs 😀
I would agree. With a carbon frame, a double chainring and a set of carbon wheels there really isn't much difference other than the road bike frame is probably more aero. I think you are right about the limitations of the single ring set up for descending. The only problem I've found with the additional set of road wheels is brake disc rub on the road set so tend to just stick to the gravel wheels.
Great content, would love a Headlands as a winter bike on the road and on (smooth) gravel, anything too gnarly and I'm in a cold sweat!
I’m going to change tires today just to give my road bike a break..... great video👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hey David, hello from Brazil.
Great video man!
Thank you! Hello!
That’s really interesting Dave. Might do the same myself 😀
You have to ask yourself as general Joe Public, if you’re not racing, how much difference does a minute here or there make?
Great review👍🏼 I’m definitely an advocate for switching tyres for the terrain. What matters most to me is enjoyment, and if you get a PR, that’s an added bonus😊
My passion is riding a MTB, however many of of friends ride road/ bike paths and I use the pavement for basic fitness training. My non-MTB is a trek sport FX5, a gravel drivetrain, 40mm tires, flat bars, carbon frame. I don’t ride road for anything more than the casual go anywhere with anyone. I’m very happy with the performance of my fx5, but truthfully I’ve riden every bike I’ve ever owned on mixed surfaces it’s only now in the world of hyper-knowledge cyber precise specific this and that where one thinks that something dedicated is the only way to enjoy a simple ride on a bike!
really helpful video. Im an ex racer coming back after long illness. going to get a new back to bikepack, road and just enjoy it but my old head does want a bit of speed. so i think you’ve helped me to decide on my brian rourke gravel bike with two sets of wheels. its about fun and just getting out and about. going to go 2x with the Sram etap axs
Sounds like you’ll have a rad set up 👍🏼
@@DaveNoakes I hope so, gone with a 700cc 28mm set up for road and then 650b 47mm for the gravel. What do you think?
Cheers Dave. Very informative and useful.
Thank you
I just bought a Salsa Warbird with the new grx groupset. I changed the tires out to a 40mm tubless fast rolling tire and the thing is a lot faster than I thought. Not as fast as my older Caad10 on 25mm tires, but I'm not a pro and enjoy the plush ride of wider tires.
Thanks for the interesting experiment Dave. Always something new to learn.
Ironically your discussion about road bikes in a previous video intrigued me. It motivated me to get a used steel racing bike and I love it.
Still use the Headlands for adventure cycling though.
Hope you’re enjoying the road bike. Even though I like this set up I still prefer a road bike for road.
@@DaveNoakes like it or not, you're gaining disciples!
I do a lot of road to commute so I swap my 47c WTB venture with scwhalbe g one speed tires and it already made a huge different, yet i can still crush some light gravel. im happy with it!
Congrats on 10k!
Thank you!!
I have a steel frame cyclocross bike and invested in a 2nd wheel set for my road rides. It's all I've ever needed and wanted.
So true!
I’m just building up a Giant TCX with this set up in mind. I’m going for 2x10 gearing because I don’t like wide range cassettes, they have too big of a step between gears. Got 46/30 chainrings and going to run 12-30 cassettes. I’ve actually gone one further and got a set of 650b wheels with really wide knobbly tyres for when it’s really muddy.
Great video. Exactly the question I wanted answered.
Looking to replace my 10 year old Litespeed m1 and looking at Endurance bikes versus the Ribble GCR. The geometry of the GCR seems to mesh with my bike fit/anatomy better than some other endurance bikes.
Curious what the wheelbase (or the whole geometry) of your gravel ride is?
If similar to the GCR then this video pretty much answers my questions and is pushing me toward the GCR.
nice little vlog dave - swapping wheelsets on gravel bikes to suit conditions/ride is a good idea but perhaps just putting up with the compromise is OK too if your not out for PRs and just want to have fun :) although 650b'trail and 700C road would be a nice choice.......
Thanks, I agree. I’m going to switch to 650 for off road soon I think.
Am waiting for stock on planet x holdsworth mystique force 1.. am so excited .. thanks for the honest opinion idol Dave👍🏻
Before I bought a road bike, I put 30 road tyres on my gravel bike. It was surprisingly fun and comfortable!
I like your channel btw. It feels grounded and relatable, and enjoyable too of course :)
Why wouldn’t you? I bought a gravel bike to ride on roads because the roads are crap and it absorbs the imperfections better than my skinny tire road bike. Plus I can comfortably follow where my heart desires down whatever path or route I find. Ride on! 👍🏼
100%
What size chainring you got on there?
I'm finding the single bike setup is working well for me... I always used to love my road bike, but since getting a gravel bike I often found myself tempted by little trails or interesting looking back roads and farm roads. I've now got two sets of wheels - and both with 38mm tyres - one set of knobbles and one set of slicks. The slicks for road rides... roll plenty quick enough to not feel sluggish but still got the cushion for a bit of off road if something tempts me. I also sometimes lower my stem by 10 or 15mm for lengthy road rides, to get a touch more aero.
Would be cool if you could do that same route again with the 9 tooth small cog
hey dave, great video again. you mentioned in the last few minutes having a gravel bike wiith an extra set of wheels is a good compromise.. you also said if you swapped chainring out you sacrifice gearing, but what about having a 2x front cog, perhaps running GRX, on a gravel bike, with a set of road wheels, would this solve all the issues? Is having 1x for gravel more beneficial than having a 2x that could be perfect for both road and gravel (but comes wiith extra weightt, maintenance, and less of a clean look)... Genuinely curious, love road riding, love off road, cant afford both.... Seems like my perfect option would be a road biased gravel frame with GRX 2x or even 105, and a sett of 650B for gravel, and some 56mm deep clinchers for the road. all in one bikes are supposed to be all you need, but its impossible when you love really gravely gravel bikes and really roady road bikes.. thanks again for the video
I was thinking the same thing can I use road tires on my gravel bike? Glad I found your channel 😊
This answers my questions & fuels my desire of my next bike. But, must be able to add a pannier/trunk bag rack since I also will use it for going to the store. I have now a few wheel sets, different tires & gear ratios, for my road & commuter bikes. Takes me less time going to work than using a car (traffic) & stay healthier at 66. Some NYC streets are no smoother than a gravel trail. Couldn't care about clubs. In 2, model RR & bike clubs. Was also in a car club,. My personal experience is the ego maniacs &/or frustrated husbands (have no say in the house) join so they may rule over mere mortals! Seems like they never left high school.
Growing up we only had one. You learnt to do what you can on it and what you couldn’t you did by walking with it. Now, I have 4, one for each surface.
Hi dave - thanks for this useful vid. I grew up in moreton so know the doccombe climb well :-) Considering this option as well at the moment (a gravel bike with some separate lighter road wheels to run on it) partly as the hills around east devon are killer but also because of it being almost impossible to get road bike stock at the moment. The Orbea terra - at least in one option - comes with a double chainset which gives you a slighter better top end i think..........11 months later would you still stick with your view on this?
How is the comfort on gravel bikes with road wheels thanks Dave great 👍 videos as always
Proper cycle science, Right on!
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
This is so Awesome!! I literally just bought a Gravel Bike about 2 weeks ago and I just put some 32mm Road tires on it!! I’m in LOVE!!! It’s definitely faster!!
I did the same thing, put 32mm road tires on my gravel bike, and it rides remarkably well on roads. It's basically an endurance road bike with decent fender mounts. It's not as fast as a true road bike, but it's fast enough if you're not racing, and totally fun to ride. Plus, if you want to ride on dirt, just swap out the wheels and you're good to go!
@@sventice Exactly!!!! Enjoy your new wheels 🚲 I’m definitely happy with what I have. I’m not racing, just riding the roads with friends. !!
👍I use 35 mm tyres. Schwalbe all round
I ride a Trek Checkpoint with a set of 700cc wheels and 35 (will go bigger once worn out) tyres for gravel/commute and a set of 700cc wheels with 28 slicks for club runs and all road. Both cassettes are 11/36 and running 50/43 up front.
Nice video and interesting topic! If you don't mind me asking, what is your camera setup? Looks really good😅
Thank you, I use a GoPro 7 black with a windslayer when talking to the camera and all the riding footage is a GoPro 8 👍🏼
Love it that it still has dry mud on it 😎
Ich ride a Cube Cross Race C62 SL CX bike (1×).
I think for most people it is the perfect compromise. The geometry is closer to a road bike than a gravel bike would be. But so think most people don't ride their gravel bikes in XC terrain / on single trails anyway, so they don't need the smaller head tube angle or being able to fit 650B 2.1".
I have a 700x40mm Schwalbe G-One bite wheelset and one Speedsafe (Chinese carbon) 45mm deep road wheelset with 25mm GP 5000s. Gravel wheelset has a 11-40, while the road wheels have 11-36.
I own two chain rings, a 38 (gravel) and a 40 (road). It all runs with the same chain and a medium size cage.
Couldn't be more happy with the range of stuff I can ride with that.
Dave, I recommend sticking on an E13 TRS+ 11 speed cassette. Its 9 to 46 T give you a better ratio at either end of the spectrum.
That’s the cassette I run on my gravel wheels. My road ones are not xd driver so it didn’t fit
I often use my gravel bike, set up w 38 mm Gravelkings, on club rides without any problems. I do run 50/34 in the front which makes a difference, I guess compared to a single chainring...
Sounds good, if I wanted a full do it all bike I'd definitely go for 2x
Gravel bikes are an awesome bit of kit, I ride both a giant defy advanced pro and a giant revolt advanced 0 and honestly most of the rides I do I prefer the gravel bike, its more comfortable, more versatile and with the maxxis velocita's a fast rolling semi slick its quick on both road and gravel... plus your not tied to just road a fantastic go anywhere bike.
nice vid Dave! What wheelset are you running here? Cheers from a fellow essex bloke inToronto 👍
Do you film by yourself? I like your camera positioning, especially when you're riding
Yes it’s all self filmed. 👍🏼thank you
One thing you've not mentioned Dave is your preference for steady climbs or stuff that's pitchier and varies more in grade? And if that different from road vs gravel?
I use my gravel bike more now than my road bike Dave, I've actually got a pb on a climb with my gravel bike and the next day went on the same route and my road bike was slower... road bike has got 52-36 and 11-32 my gravel bike 30-46 and 11-34 my gravel bike is perfect for the hills in Lancashire and in North Wales to ... the road bike has 23mm tyres and gravel bike 47mm tyres tubeless 😉👍🤟 I'm now looking at selling my road bike and looking at upgrades for my Gravel bike 😉👍
I don’t blame you there, I think having one mega gravel bike is the best option!
I advocate for multiple sets of wheels and tires for gravel bikes. I mostly travel with my gravel bike for this reason. However, travelling by a plane is difficult. I wish a travel case company would design a bike travel case that can hold two wheel sets
Omg this is needed! I can squeeze 2 sets of wheels into a soft case but it’s too risky with damage…and my hard case won’t fit 2 sets of wheels
I recently got a set of road wheels with 32mm tyres and exact same cassette as the one on my gravel wheelset, but for some reason I didn’t feel faster or easier on the road. My gravel bike is 1by and my gravel wheelset has 40mm tubeless tyres, I think 1by is definitely a limiting factor in this case. But I’m wondering if I use 28mm tubeless tyres on the road wheels will make much of a difference?
Hi Dave video is so informative thinking of purchasing a gravel bike if you dont mind could you tell what model your riding really enjoyable.
Hiya, glad you enjoyed it. I’m riding the Marin Headlands.
good vid, I am just about to get a second set of wheels and then convert 1 set to pure road tyres. My only real issue is that only having 1 bike means maximum wear whereas a second bike shares it around. But as you state a decent second bike is big bucks.
Yes, having multiple bikes means they can share the wear - but in the long run, you then need to replace two sets of components instead of just one. So eventually, no cost advantage.
I slapped some 32C Conti gatorskins on my gravel bike and have been riding it on the road for the last 7 weeks. Have an 11-40 cassette, not much use for the 40 on the roads. Using Absolute Black chainrings.
Sounds rad!
Been thinking about doing this for ages currently riding a 3t exploro with 650b with 47mm for off-road but find myself riding more road at times looking at some options now for rims, gearing etc
I ran a 11-32 on my gravel bike with road wheels and GP5000 tyres. It was comfortable and still fast on the road.
Awesome.. I love my gravel bike more than my road bike & mountain bike ....
Same here!
I ride my gravel cannondale topstone 105 alloy with my friends who all have carbon aero road bikes. Always faster than them up climbs and long rides even though I have a weight, aero, and geometry disadvantage. I definitely have to put in more watts (as the frame is also much too big for me and I run gravel tires on it not road), but I still manage to be a fast rider. In essence, you can use a gravel bike with gravel tires as a road bike. It'll make you a stronger rider and for normal rides that don't race, a gravel bike is more than enough.
A resounding yes from me Dave. It's not the ball it's the pitcher. Same with cycling. I bet unless it's a fixed gear you could race your gravel bike in a crit with proper tyres. The industry is designed to sell you a bike for every purpose but in actuality it's ridiculous especially with today's materials and technology. One bike multi-purpose.
Using a 2020 Jamis Renegade S3 with Schwalbe Marathon (greenguard) because the roads where i live are not clean; lots of debris, glass, nails. So far so good, but they do weigh quite a bit, but the puncture resistance is there.
I’ve heard good things about them!
Why hasn't this channel blown up yet? Dave doesn't sugar coat and fluff his statements up! Like a bridge to casual and racing cyclists...
Thank you 🙏🏼
Cheers Dave, so pair of roadwheels, cassette and a bigger chain and your sorted that'd be way cheaper than second bike.👍
I ran a Ribble CGR SL with some carbon road wheels and it was very comfortable and still fast.
@@cool_riding ...and a CGR Ti over here! THE 'one and only - forever bike' 👍👍 I currently have 700c 38mm G-Ones and am planning a second wheelset with 650b 47mm Senderos for the more agro-gravel/dirt days. I rode from Plymouth to London in three days on 700c 28mm Duranos. They were really good, and if I were greedy, I'd think about setting these up as a dedicated third wheelset 🤔
I use my road bike for cyclocross and it works well :)
Thank you
I have a giant revolt 3 and use daily for work and back and got 35mm wheels on. Works well for me.
sounds rad!
Roger I have the same bike. I love it in every way. Probably 10% slower than my old trek road bike but it flies on gravel
Best investment I’ve ever made
I use my Reebok traverse for everything. More sensible than gravel bikes. Great bike for 20 years old and 100 quid. No head down arse up for me lol
Having two wheelsets, one road one gravel, was my plan when I built up my gravelbike. I'm currently selling the road ones because I'm hardly ever using them 😅
Honestly I’d probably just use one set of wheels tyres and just pump them up a bit harder when riding road. I’m actually really lazy.
@@DaveNoakes that's what I'm doing now too. I'm not fast enough that wide slick tyres would slow me down on the road anyway
@@DaveNoakes What for tyres do you have?
@@DaveNoakes I did exactly the same mate, 4.5-5 Bar on road (40mm), 3-3.5 Bar when riding on gravel
@@danielbum912 they will slow you as wider tires are heavier
David I have the same bike and also am converting to GRX crank. Wolftooth makes a dedicated 46 ring for GRX and sunrace sells a side range cassette 46, 42, -10 for not loosing gear range on climbs (you’re still 1 to 1 46 to 46 vs 42 to 42).
I think this is how a 1x could get that nice range! Can’t wait to complete the upgrade. I got the parts but am one step behind you installing my wheels and grx crank (with stages power) now wanting to feel that out and the improvement over stock before changing crank ring & cassette.
Oh that’s exciting, it’s gonna be rad! I usually run a 40t up front and a 9-46 cassette, i really like the range, I’d possibly switch to a 42t front but I’m a fan a steep techy climbs so like the 40-46 👍🏼
@@DaveNoakes awesome.
And yeah I wanted the GRX crank for a while but couldn’t justify it. Yet stages power meters make a dedicated GrX for like $250 which is cheaper than most and so if I do grx I could get a power meeter cheap so it worked out!
Then right now one project I’m working on is how to get cheap high engagement gravel wheels. I picked up a $350 dt swiss spline 1800 wheelset with 24 mm internal width which is much better than the 21mm stock as I’m running 42mm pathfinder tires (highly recommend these btw hands down great grip, don’t wear out fast, and on road they have a like roadbike fastrolling center I’ve been keeping up with roadbikers and peaking 34mph flat kind of best of both worlds). Anyways the cheap dt swiss wheel comes with their cheap 370 hub and I’m looking to swap in the 240 or something else with the star ratchet system to do the 54 star ratchet upgrade.
What’s the max tire clearance on your frame and what size road tires where you running?
I have a cannondale topstone 5 gravel bike 2021, can you recommend a good road wheel set for my sportive. Isle of Man is a very hilly place 🙏🏻
Running my gravel bike with Conti 5000s (32mm) on the road feels pretty much as fast as my road bike...I miss some top end when descending, but i'm not as brave as I used to be, so not too much of a problem ;-)
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(y) 50/34 on the front and then as many wheels as you want tyre setsups and 11-28,32,34,36 as suits :-D
Have you considered or tried 28mm?
I have a Giant Revolt with 2 sets of wheels (gravel and road) and it works perfectly for both scenarios.
I have aswell a giant revolt. What road wheels and tyres do you use ? thx
@@Junesouffa DT Swiss E1800 with WTB Exposure 30c. Can just swap them straight out, don’t need to adjust brakes or derailleur. The guy at the bike shop told me the sheen it came with are rebranded DT Swiss which is why they swap so easily.
Thanks for the info.
Cool comparison vid! May I please ask what Bell model helmet are you wearing?
Thanks. It’s the Bell Zephyr 👍🏼
@@DaveNoakes Thank you. It’s not easily available in the U.S.☹️
Easy to use and install.
Sure is
Gravel bike with a double chainset and you're good to go.
Ride your heavier gravel tyres on road rides with your pals and you'll be getting a better workout than they are.
Then destroy them with road tyres on. Bwaa Haa Haa!
Exactly
That is what I do haha. I still destroy them on the gravel tires too!
Been using my pinnacle arkose D2 gravel bike as a road bike just different tyres and it's made me quicker. I think a road bike would make me even quicker but happy with the arkose
awesome!
Love those glasses!
What brand?
Sungod Vulcans
Today I was overtaken by a lighter, younger and stronger man on a racebike. He got 20 meters instantly. I tried to close the gap and did hold 20-30-20-30 meters for ca 3 km, and then an uphill came, and he disappeared. There vere several factors in his advantage. Fitness, bikeweight, tyres and gear ratio did matter. I was for more than a kilometer at my cadence limit with heaviest 40-11 gear. The weight of innertube, suspensionfork , larger tyres, aluminiumwheels and dropperpost gives this gravelbike 3 kg extra. I am considering a set-up that is more road-fast, and that is uprgrading from 1x11 to 2x 11 gear and swopping tyres from 44mm with tube to 37 mm tubeless. I guess this would have closed that 20 meter gap, but he would got away up the hill anyway. Maybe this upgrade is a bad idea. I dont need to go faster and ther will be a penalty for smaller tyres on the gravelroad. And it is nice to avoid front-gear.
Which wheel set are you using though?
I would be interested to see the same test done with a 2by gravel bicycle. Do you think would mitigate those limitations on a descent? How different do you think it would actually be?
I think a 2x would be ideal, I love 1x but I just don’t find the gearing as suitable for all round use. That said, if I had my 9-46 cassette on it would be much better.
I do exactly that with my jari, I've got a 46/30 up front and a 11/28 on my road wheels (11/32 on the gravel set). And the 46-11 is roughly equivalent to a 50-12, so it doesn't limit me outside of real descents.
@@LeDore38 48/32 for me 11-28 road set, 11-34 gravel set.
I actually feel lucky cause i have a road bike that can take up to 38c tyres. I use 32c now cause i mostly ride on tarmac. But i might put bigger tyres at summer to explore a bit further.
Gravel bikes are great to be honest. If you can only own one bike and have beautiful areas where you live that are off road. Is a wise choice. You can go both fast and free. Not as fast as a dedicated aero road bike. But surely as fast as an endurance road one.
Gravel is not only about speed, unless one is racing.
Hi mate just got a gravel bike a Merlin gx02 with the gx812 rear mech and single chain ring it’s a 42 t .will it be ok for the hills or should I train on my double ring road bike not got the Merlin for a lot of off road more of a plush road ride cheers Dave