@@olstar18 Yeah, my gym required cleaning equipment after use even before the pandemic. During the pandemic they've just been "just make double sure" and got a slightly different cleaner.
I do not agree. Over doing generally always have negative side effect. I would think this was not good for a lot of peoples psychology. If one has OCD or bacterial angst or just anxiety in general. Then seeing the government act like a madman and having people in spacesuits disinfecting the streets and subway is hardly good for anyone. This is dictator actions because most politicians and experts knew already then that this was ineffective and is mostly for show. I find people condoning this kind of actions very very scary.
@@palody_en-ja I was hoping they would spend more time on the tracks too. The delays are ridiculous sometimes and I hate it when there are no express services on the weekends sometimes.
@@realryder2626 it’s hard to tell what the effect will be. Less exposure to different germs will probably lower our immune system, but the lowered spread of disease might also prevent viruses from mutating so quickly as well as keeping down the danger for most of the population. Hard to tell, I’m not a disease scientist or a doctor so I won’t make any strong statements about it
@@frickinfrick8488 you do realise the drastic increase in disinfectant usage will act a selection pressure making bacteria and viruses alike evolve to become more resistant to them leading to more infections in the long run... This is how MRSA came into existence...
@@RBsRealmnot quite re: MRSA. I’d suggest you read an article titled The genesis of MRSA: resistance emerged years before the introduction of methicillin in the clinic
@@RBsRealm as a biomedical research assistant: this is not true at all, you are referring to antibiotics. Bacteria and viruses will always die/denature in the presence of disinfectants such as alcohols
People are nasty though. Please, at least wash your hands. I see so many people in public places that come out of the restroom stall after 💩 and walk right out without washing their hands. Also, I’ve seen people at the gym pick their nose or cough on their hands and go back to touching everything.
Honestly, as one of those front line workers that had to clean stuff, I think the main problem with all the cleaning was they were not training workers how to do it properly. All my training was spray the handles of the cart with this mysterious liquid and wipe it off. I was essentially never told what it was (wasn't labeled), was not always given gloves to handle it, and was given those cheap paper towels that don't absorb anything to wipe it off. People would often take a cart from me right after I cleaned it and stick their baby in there when it was still damp. I didn't work for small stores either, this happened at target and walmart. As a side note you would be shocked at the amount of times during this pandemic I saw a co worker take off their mask, sneeze in their hands, and continue stocking the shelves.
Wow. I’m assuming you’re in North America (I could be wrong about that but I’m sure it’s a similar situation in Europe and Asia anyway). I’m in the US and it’s illegal to have employees handle chemicals that either are or could become hazardous if you handle them wrong without providing them with adequate training and the chemical safety data sheet, which tells you what the chemical is, how to handle it, what to do if it gets on your skin/in your eyes or lungs, etc. Unlabeled containers are also a huge OSHA no-no. That’s both super yikes and also really unsurprising
@@glennso47 probably not battery acid, since that stuff does visible damage, it's probably just water because many large retailers like to be cheap and not spend a lot of money
@@sir9integra9jr Yep. That was in some of our required training too. I knew that it was very non OSHA compliant but the whole store was (at least in Target's case, didn't stay at Walmart long enough to find out). This was early on in the pandemic when everything was out of stock too so I feel like whatever it was was either not effective or safe either way.
I can only speak for Brazil. H1n1 created a culture of hand sanitization and cleaning that lasted from the first case until the MOMENT people started believing corona is a Chinese conspiracy
I bought a bidet nozzle that attaches to either the toilet's water line or a nearby faucet about three months before the covid lockdown. When people were scrambling for toilet paper I was washing up with warm water.
If you haven't been to a restaurant lately, have you noticed the sanitation scores have gone up? That's a good thing. Restaurants and retail businesses should be cleaning regularly, but in the past they haven't. Even if sanitizing surfaces doesn't prevent Covid-19, it's making those places actually clean for a change. It's going to reduce the number of infections from other things.
Precisely. The whole world could do with better hygiene habits. Although with regards to covid and other airborne viruses, good ventilation and mask usage is of upmost importance
Agreed. However I do believe corporations need to look into ways to properly disinfect without the use of harsh chemicals and then teach the employees how to properly use these cleaning agents. If used incorrectly some of the stronger disinfectants can cause serious harm as well.
@@Carolinagirl1028 I think there's going to be a choice with cleaning agents. You'll either have something that's harsh for us, kills germs, and isn't horrible for the environment, or easy on us, won't kill germs, but environmentally neutral. That's generally how cleansers and disinfectants work.
Nothing makes sense besides the vaccines. All the NPIs are just useless do something panic approaches with limited to no data saying they work (no that study in Bangladesh doesn't prove "masks work")
Yeah, and some surfaces like door handles are touched by dozens of people every hour and I'm not exactly keen on letting some stranger I cant even see, of possible questionable origins, decide about my safety. It's a small temporary inconvenience, if I was safe despite it, so be it, not much of value was lost, but on the off chance I ignored it and got really sick and suffered severe consequences I would probably spit myself in the face for the rest of my life, even if I would not be able to determine if taking the extra step would save me from it. Not worth it.
My brother's school uses watered down bleach to disinfect desks. It aggravated his asthma and once he sat in a still wet chair and bleached the butt of his pants literally the day after he bought them
Bleach also aggravates my allergies and allergic rhinitis. I learned that bleach also absorbs into skin and our body through contact and can be inhaled so it's really harmful. There was even news here in our country of a person who was sprayed bleach for decontamination( i think the mixture has high concentration) and died. I use hydrogen peroxide instead if needed.
I’ve gotten terrible rashes from some of the disinfectant products they forced you to put on your skin when entering a shop . After that I refused to do that.. People looked at me like I just killed their dog..
@@GFKCEG I have been covering my face and staying the hell away from someone visibly ill for years. You can’t tell me there’s no difference between being in the space where a person can cough/sneeze onto you or away enough from them.
@@GFKCEG Masks do work, mainly by helping prevent aerosols from hanging in the air. Social distancing is less useful, but was useful initially when it was more difficult to get ahold of masks. However, for COVID, all the disinfection was pointless.
@@Liusila You dont understand how face masks work nor how far bacteria/viruses travel throught air. I didnt tell "there's no difference", also learn to read. Check the facts and stop covering your face in fear. Dont let fear control you.
In January last year (2020), I learned about the outbreak in China and sitting in the gym in the Netherlands paid close attention on how many people touch their face. People touched their face often, some people regularly as part of quirk. Now, nobody is touching their face, some people run their forearm over their forehead or pull / rub their ears.
People want to feel in control. It’s funny how many people said “wash hands/disinfect surfaces “ or put up plastic barriers, but didn’t believe in mask wearing. Since the beginning, I focused on #1. air quality, 2. mask wearing, and 3. Social distancing. We didn’t have a single case in my barbershop this entire pandemic.
The government didn't say embark on a daily mission to eradicate every germ from your home. I think what they meant was keep your environment clean in general and focus on high risk areas daily. I am fairly sure huffing dettol was not suggested.
@@aprilporter7908 the video isn't about overdoing cleaning, it goes against disinfecting surfaces in general and only mention overdoing it in passing. Really poorly written
@@GFKCEG That is very much untrue. It's caused by an over active immune response and that isn't something that only non healthy folks have. Hard core top of the line athletes have been killed by it
@@GFKCEG So just because something is non-lethal then that automatically makes it not very dangerous? Death is not the only thing that matters here, some people are left with permanent holes in their lungs or other damage after the virus. And it's potentially lethal on healthy people anyway. For some the immune system reacts so strongly that it becomes more dangerous than the virus itself. There would have been a lot more deaths if we let the virus spread unhindered and the hospitals couldn't keep.
Disinfecting surfaces lead to false security where people think they're safe while they should still focus on not touching face, limiting social gathering, and continuing to wear masks.
They also said that masks leading to false sense of security. Recently CDC said that chance of getting covid via surfaces are 1 in 10 million (I thought people that are that dumb to lick door knobs are much more common). The problem in attempts to generalize everything for people who have no brains at all.
@@vladimirseven777 Exactly. It's great that they're getting studies to fundament their arguments but they're not a free pass to generalize everything. They need to comprehend the limited range of applicability
@GFK CEG It does work. I always got sick every winter (sometimes worse than others) but since the start of the pandemic I've been perfectly fine. The only change was wearing a mask and very strict social distancing. I don't even disinfect more than normal pre pandemic cleaning. People (and animals) carry a lot of bugs.
@@moteroargentino7944 your personal life doensnt add here. In general flue and influenza sickness practically dissapeared, even their respective death rates. In some places even diabethis dead rate was cut, while we know covid kills diabethics. So what?
It might not help much with covid, but it really helps a lot with educating people to be hygienic, and grocery stores regularly clean their conveyor belts and shopping carts which were extremely unsanitary before covid.
Keeping in mind cleaning and desinfecting are different things. Only clean surfaces can be desinfected as a desinfectant will not penetrate the dirt to kill any microbes under the dirt layer.
Even if disinfectant doesn't reduce the spread of Covid-19 it is still good to do to reduce the spread of other viruses. This is more of argument about changing the way we clean things.
Exactly. I work at a grocery store & customers always want you to wipe everything down & sanitize your hands. Nobody cared before covid-19, so clearly their concern isn't other viruses. I have no problem doing these things for customers, i just find it funny how everybody cares now but it doesn't even help
Did you watch the video? The problem is not only viruses but bacteria too, because it can and will adapt to anything we throw at it. Not to mention intoxication due to abuse of cleaning chemicals. It's good to desinfect but no more than we used to before the pandemic.
@@moteroargentino7944 that's literally what I'm saying.. people forgot about all viruses & bacteria except covid. There's no reason to clean surfaces more than we did beforehand. It's doing more harm than good. These life forms can and will adapt. Edit: Viruses are not "alive", but still mutate over time. We can see this already with covid variants across the world
I would really appreciate it if you would turn on the captions setting on your videos. Deaf & Hard of Hearing folks and many others like me find it difficult to follow a video without them. Thanks in advance :)
Wow, thanks! You just made me realised that this feature was not automatically on for all videos. I thought that even though the publisher of the video may not have provided subtitles, UA-cam still provided speach to text captions automatically. Have a great day!
@@djinn130 they actually changed that recently I think. I remember hearing about an outcry when UA-cam removed the auto generated captions and making them default
What kind of bullshit is this? If you need subtitles, turn them on yourself! You still can see right? Subtitles by default are NOT needed by 99% of the viewers! You don't enable a feature by default if most people don't need it!! Oversensitive woke bullshit -.-
I read a study on covid that wasn't about this. It was about asymptomatic people but the study went into other things that felt like it deserved it's own study. One of which was that it didn't appear to transmit through surfaces much at all. I read the actual study too. Not the whole thing though. The majority of what I read was about how difficult it was to find someone infected with covid who was truly asymptomatic. Most who think they were asymptomatic still had mild symptoms they were unaware of.
That Covid primarily spreads through the air doesn´t mean you won´t get infected from a surface. Disinfecting random surfaces at home and such is nonsense of course. However disinfecting public places still made quite a bit of sense (and makes sense in general).
You missed one of the largest costs of all this hygiene theatre: it increased resistance to effective measures like mask-wearing. People felt they were being asked to do too much and rebelled by refusing to comply, or felt that if they were doing all the cleaning, they could skip the mask.
Even bigger cost of the hygiene theater and mask shaming was that attention to what was circulating in the air of enclosed spaces was totally disregarded or ignored. I am especially speaking to mask wearers and people who want to enforce mask mandates. Clean the air, otherwise the air in enclosed spaces is IDLH. Immediately Dangerous to Life and Health.
it was ALL THEATRE. based on lies people would drop dead in the street fueled by lies from the CCCP. I never changed my cleaning habits as they were enough already, locked myself in or wore a mask, if shops dont like it i take my CASH elsewhere! weak ass lefties gasp thinking i lucky to be alive. lol. just like the other 42 years of my life, i am and well. lets use antibacterial products on a virus. i bet you take antibiotics for EVERYTHING! im not slamming it. if you think a mask helps go for it. its like stopping a sandstorm with a chain link fence. all alcohol does is sterilize the skin biome away. i have bacteria on my skin that fights crap like that off. so did you. and yes, i told the doc to put his fake vaccine where the sun doesn't shine. i look forward to the enquiries.
@@namibianamibia1138 No flu deaths when everyone is wearing masks and distancing? Weird. I think the government controls influenza, and they need to stop covid cause it's a different government that controls the rona virus. They want this to stop this as much as you and you're playing into china's hand you traitor
Except we did know better. We knew very early on that most people under the age of 65 had a 0.1% mortality rate, we knew the harm these chemicals could inflict on the entire population, the government knowingly relaxed FDA regulations and imported hand sanitizer/cleaning products previously banned from the USA due to the shortage, we had endless decades of medical papers and references on the risk of over sanitization and damage to our immune system. We risked the safety of billions to save thousands. We did know, but let fear over take what knowledge we already had.
I'm just sad this kind of information isn't in other languages. I'd love to be able to tell my mother that her obsessive cleaning disorder isn't necessary.
I think it was still worth it to be careful. It also probably helped manage other potential illnesses like the flu and cold. I personally really liked being in a cleaner space.
I've been cleaning stuff at the market since the very start. We only use water with bleach in it with some bootleg paper towels and I can't tell you how many times wind blew that stuff in my face and eyes in combination with it constantly irritating the skin on my hands as well as ruining 2 shirts and 2 pairs of pants. It sucks to find out that much of that was pretty much for nothing at this point.
Don't be sorry about it. I did it even before the pandemic, only using 70% ethyl alcohol instead since it is irritates far less (dries the skin though if not careful, but nothing more). My mom has been doing it all her life, and she's 60. I don't know anyone with less respiratory infections than her. It's just nicer to put clean items in the fridge and cabinets, without the dust from supermarket shelves, grime, residue from spilled products. Less risk from cross contamination when cooking and so on.
It's sensationalism. There's nothing "so wrong", what's "so wrong" is not wearing your masks, not washing your hands, not practicing social distancing. For most people, cleaning surfaces at worst made them waste their time. Cheddar presents no studies for this resitant bacteria threat they propose.
They said that because if we panic bought masks right away none of the doctors and caregivers of sick people would have any and that would be bad. It was a calculated risk, they were looking out for the people around the infected at the time
@@theworstdadjoke6518 We don't need masks because of this : swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/ We do need masks because big pharma needs a scared world population to sell "vaccins".
@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 2019 feels so much longer ago than it really is. I feel like due to the negligence of people there is going to be a new super strain that develops that cause us to go back into lockdown due to not enough people ether having access to the vaccine or people that do not getting vacinated
I remember scientists and teachers telling me back in the 90s if we kill and destroy even just 30% of the bacterium in the world all life would die. We live in an ecosystem designed on balance and that balance can fluctuate just fine but once you decimate a system it starts to fall apart. And decimation starts at what is considered 10% or more. Also government agencies and laboratories that play with this stuff is just asking for trouble. Doctors and scientists will never be able to control all living organisms.
The Atlantic covered this last year. This was common knowledge for a while. Check out their piece 'The Scourge of Hygiene Theatre,' which was even followed up by a Part 2 article.
Right-that article cites Emanuel Goldman (interviewed in this video) who wrote about the “exaggerated risk of transmission of COVID-19 by fomites” in _The Lancet_ and called the risk of that transmission “negligible.” I think it would have been better if this Cheddar video had connected the various dots.
@@jeff__w Very true. I also really am not a fan of Cheddar's often times subpar sound mixing. The music that they use for their videos often clashes with the narration and voiceovers, making it a real challenge to hear what is being said.
@@FGH9G I simply won't fly because I don't want to be sexually assaulted by a government agency that doesn't even stop terrorism before getting on a plane.
We did it because we didn't know how it spread in the early days. Simple as that. Cleaning surfaces was a reasonable response. Still cleaning surfaces beyond what is necessary for standard hygiene a year later is a little odd. However, some of the increased cleaning standards in certain public spaces should probably be kept anyways.
All you need to rid surfaces from SARS-CoV-2 (and lots of other pathogens) is 20 seconds of exposure to concentrated neutral soap diluted in water. But after 14 months, most things and systems were not adapted to allow this simple cleaning method. Finding a place to simply wash your hands is still often a challenge. Of course I support better air cleaning methods and social distancing. Everything counts, and cleaning surfaces does count a little bit - but not enough to justify using anything other than soap and isopropyl alcohol.
I got COVID without leaving my house! My wife received a food delivery from a friend (while I was on the roof), she was wearing gloves and came in the house and started disinfecting everything to put it in the fridge. Within 3mins I came into the house before she could clean the doorknob. For a second I thought to go wash my hands right away but I had a meeting on Zoom. Two days later my friend was really sick, two days later I started with all of her symptoms and her whole family also got Covid at the same time. A couple of days later I lost my sense of smell and taste and had to admit that I had COVID too and started taking the Zpack I had. I got better in about a week. But it's been a month and I'm still tired. My friend and I are fully vaccinated. I believe Covid OCD is bad... but now I know getting COVID is worst. There must be a balance, at least until they can prove that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get Covid without physical contact with a person.
The worst part of this obsessive cleaning is that it absorbed the majority of public health policy information and public's attention. It was 80% focused on cleaning stuff and washing hands, giving people a sense of false security. The actual modes of transmission became secondary and often poorly managed.
I've been saying this for almost a year now. For example when my gym opened with limited capacity (10 people) we had to carry around a spray bottle and wipe down everything we touched. Seemed like overkill, especially when you consider we had to sanitize our hands when we walked in, wear masks the whole time, the gym was huge, and the equipment was all separated from each other. My worry was it was doing more harm than good, by increasing the likelihood of germs resisting the cleaner. My suspicion was these policies where conjured up by business people with little scientific background. I think there was a pressure for smaller businesses to implement as many precautions as possible in the name of "safety" to justify being open.
I'm saddened I had to scroll down so far to see this. The moment I saw that majestic mop I knew *someone* had to have mentioned it in the comments. F for the poor mink that gave his life to cover this man's bald spot. :D
The increased cleaning of public spaces has been wonderful if not effective for it's intended purpose. I think a lot of positive outcomes from covid measures like reduced bacterial infections, respiratory illnesses etc. will be obscured by the shift in resources to covid.
I honestly wouldn't say it's ineffective. High touch surfaces like in a public place still have changed. But they quickly retracted the cardboard bit for instance.
so you disinfect a surfsce with bleach. then touch that surface. then touch your face. did you miss the part of the video where the harsh chemicals in disinfectants resulted in a sharp increase in poison control emergencies?
@@kickwriteteach2313 I believe the poison control bit is referring to mixing of disinfectants, which causes noxious fumes. If you're using one type of disinfectant on your hands, you're probably fine on this front. The part about the potential for becoming obsessive compulsive however, that definitely applies!
Years ago in college I attended a talk that our professor suggested we go to. It was boring. So I took out a piece of paper and wrote, "Attendence sheet" (misspelled on purpose). And I passed it around the lecture hall. Everyone started signing it. People who didn't have a pen had to ask people around them for a pen. It noisily got passed up and down through all the aisles. People got up and walked to the next aisle across the room to make sure it got signed. At the end someone stood up and asked if everyone signed the "Attendance sheet". People who didn't sign it went up and formed a line to sign it. I walked up and tried to tell the people signing it that I started passing it around as a joke. I pointed out that "Attendance" is spelled wrong. It didn't matter. Nobody believed me. Everyone just kept signing it and everyone wanted to make sure they didn't leave unless their name was on that sheet. I don't know what ever happened to that sheet. I mean, who did they decide to give it to after it was all signed? The moral here: Once people get something in their head, especially if they are convinced that it's "the right / virtuous thing to do", it's almost impossible for them to stop even after facing overwhelming evidence that they're doing it for absolutely no reason.
This makes me feel a little safer about going to the the park but when I get back from outside should I continue to disinfect my phone and cleaning my hands
@@uignireddngfiurdsgfiurdse I get what you mean when I go grocery shopping I use hand sanitizer 2-3 times incase I touch my face and also when I get home I disinfect objects that were in my pocket that I commonly touched during shopping such as my phone and wallet
@@palody_en-ja even before the pandemic I always washed my hands and maybe once every 2 weeks I would disinfect my phone but the pandemic just made me do cleaning more often
@@uignireddngfiurdsgfiurdse It depends from what you mean by "touching face". If something like "Lindsey Graham’s ‘Finger In The Boogie Jar’" then I think you should disinfect more than your hands.
Disinfecting surfaces is not a wrong practice; it's reducing potential viral transmission just like wearing masks. The problem is that some people are not disinfecting surfaces correctly or do it with wrong products. Please do not mix the concepts and spread wrong information.
At the beggining of the pandemic in my country I was super relaxed working in retail as I saw hordes of mad people coming in rushing as soon as the shop opened up to buy desinfectant, bleach, other hygiene products and also toilet paper, bottled water and cereal boxes. People stocked up in basic hygiene needs, stuff like canned food that would last months and other basic stuff, back then masks werent mandatory, we knew it was transmissible through coughing and sneezing, but we werent aware how it worked, so facial masks were something suggested but we had no stock, however everyone wore gloves, not a single person was without them. The cleaning frenzy started and masks were mandatory 2 months here after the quarentine in march, we wore masks till now in closed off spaces and even back in october it was made mandatory to wear outside walking on the street too. This is the main reason I put on soo much weight, i have a daytime job but it doesnt burn me any calories, so I just either go to work or stay at home, because 8 hours wearing a mask is more than enough for me. The whole gloves and desinfectant thing never made much sense to me, it's like trying to clean a surface that someone else 5 minutes later is just gonna splatter a bucket of wet paint all over it again. masks make sense you're protecting yourself and others gloves can be infected if u touch ur nose and then use the same glove to touch any surface, and vice versa, an infected surface can pass the virus to ur glove as u touch a nose. we arent sure how long the virus lasts in surfaces but its pointless to go crazy about cleaning, it pays off more if u just protect yourself. Gosh i just want this to be over. People are already saying we need a third vaccine shot, a nasal spray for covid and animals are also getting covid vaccines, this is just getting out of hand.
I learned about this two years before the rona hit when I was working in a health care setting. We really need to take a cue from the permaculture world when dealing with the "microbiome".
Its airborne, in the air ventilators like a gas, and no one can stop it from infecting whole apartment high rises and apartment complexes through the vents and AC.
It has in Norway, sort of. It was in the news here recently: Numbers of deaths is lower now than before the pandemic. Social distancing is of course one reason. But they think one reason is better sanitation/hygiene. I hope it lasts.
Masks, social distancing (silly name, perfectly sensible practice) and lockdowns absolutely Tanked cold and flu rates in the places where they occurred during cold and flu seasons. Admittedly, the lockdowns were the big one there, but the other stuff helped a lot too.
No one got the flu for the first time here in the Netherlands, and I barely heard people sneezing and coughing from a cold last winter. And I both travel with public transit daily, and work on location, so you notice the difference fast.
The number of cases found for disease is public info, you can look that up. At least, in the US you can. Flu numbers are DRASTICALLY down. My school age kiddos usually get several colds a year, this year we only had two. Preventing covid spread prevents the spread of lots of other stuff, too.
lol wait for the 2022 cheddar video on masks. Do you know where and from what your mask was made? Studies on real-life use of mask/storage vs controlled laboratory studies? I'm interested to see how many of these points they are addressed on the "science" sold about disinfecting will them come out about masks.
I feel that just because it’s being said that cleaning didn’t help during the pandemic doesn’t mean things shouldn’t still be getting cleaned, especially in public places. People, companies, etc. should have been doing this regardless of pandemic or not.
Mac Donald’s self order touch screen. FAIL didn’t instruct the person to wipe their germs off the touch screen after printing receipt . 🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠 We were all taught during covid to wipe surfaces .
I wish every grocery store chain would watch this video. I'm a professional instacart shopper and I still see most stores continue to wipe down the carts before they let another shopper use them. It's so unnecessary.
It's like sweeping sand in a desert. It's pointless and you're just getting it all over the place. You're breath and in the environment is full of microbes. When you disinfect your just replacing one set of germs for another.
except many stores were actively telling people they could not wear gloves into stores/on transportation. So even if someone wears gloves during the cleaning, that surface is still coated in chemicals (sometimes not even dry by the following spray) for the public to touch and become exposed to. Nevermind your groceries and food items being exposed
@@TJ-bu9zk True. Some chemicals may go through the packing. On a similar note; I remember the first time I got eggs straight from the farm, I didn’t know anything but I just washed them with dish soap thinking that they may need a wash because they came straight from the chicken coup. I learned that actually there is a membrane around the egg that protects it and I just washed it off and there are also pores in the egg shell and I likely got chemicals inside the egg. Oops!
It's looking like low dose hydroxychloroquine (+zinc) is safer and more effective than those new experimental vaccines. And ivermectin also appears safer and more effective than those new experimental vaccines. Remember to keep your vitamin D levels high and don't be deficient in other vitamins and minerals.
I started working from home when it all hit the fan in the States but I never deep cleaned much at all. Stories of it going through air vents in apartment buildings in Hong Kong in January cemented that it was airborne. It's people, it's always been other people. Limit your contacts and you limit the virus. But it's hard for people to come to terms with the fact that it was really THAT SIMPLE. I got it in December due to....a family gathering that had to happen :/ Dealt with "COVID toes", bad inflammation of my toes and finger tips from Christmas until I got the vaccine in March. The US did what we needed early on, shelter but we reopened without mask mandates and here we are.
They actually told us when they made those lab results that it was based on a lab environment. So that’s not true. I remember that. I surely am hopeful that restaurants will continue disinfectanting surfaces in the future. As well as public transport.
If you were doing it to prevent catching covid: yes! If you were trying to wash of pesticides, it depends on the pesticide whether that's helpful at all 🙃
@@Snowshowslow leave your fruits and veges in a bowl with water and a tbl. of white vinegar for 10 mins. and that will kill off the external pesticides. Nothing you can do about the ones that have been absorbed. I also soak organically grown food.
"Follow the science" "We are following CDC guidelines" "Trust the science" "The science can never be wrong". I wonder if Cheddar will make a segment in 6-12 months about the errors of these 'do-no-wrong' shots.
And they ruined the video by saying that masks and social distancing do help. Like they are still being brainwashed after all the statistics showing all this bullshit makes no difference. Like North Dakota VS South Dakota. People are still in denial 😑
Science isn't about "never being wrong." Science embraces the idea of updating prior beliefs in light of new evidence, which is exactly what this video describes. We were told to sanitize common surfaces because it made sense at the time, with the knowledge we had. Now there is new evidence suggesting the benefit isn't as good as we once thought, and this evidence is strong enough that the CDC website has been updated to reflect that. Should the sanitation frenzy have happened? Perhaps not, at least not to the degree it did. But I'd rather the CDC be willing to change their recommendations rather than dig their heels in and exercise excessive authoritarianism.
I didn’t get addicted to cleaning more than usual but hand sanitzer. Especially as a cashiere. I once started the day without one and felt relief when I was able to grab one.
So everyone else with little common sense. Dont feel proud about it, feel shame if you dont understand the obvious; at least everyone understands how fish on a tank work, there's not even intelligence behind.
Ventilation, filtration, masks when indoors, and preventing crowding are the keys to preventing covid transmission, and by extension, most respiratory viruses.
Scientist: Find out how long a virus could survive on surface Reporter: No no no, it doesn't work that way. I rather believe in Scientist than a reporter.
We have known masks prevent transmission of viruses for over 100 years. The debate since then has been which viruses transmit by aerosols, and which by droplets. Most of the studies done recently show respiratory viruses transmit mostly by aerosols, which makes masks a requirement to slow/prevent the spread. www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00869-2/fulltext
In one of the disinfectant spray, it indicates the spray (solution) has to stay damp on the surface for 6 minutes to be effective. Just spray & wipe will not disinfect the surface, only superficial grimes.
Really disliked this video. I think it's even a bit sensationalist. It downplays the fact that you can touch a surface then touch your mouth. I mean, unless you literally only touch your mouth immediately after washing your hands (without closing the faucet with them), you'd have touched some number of surfaces. Then the point against cleaning is more against overdoing it then actually cleaning itself. Obviously if you obsess over it then that's bad, doesn't say anything about the act itself though. Also the issue with mixing products has always existed, it's nothing new to our current situation. Finally there's the "big issue" they use as the main argument, breeding resistant bacteria. They should've brought studies here as well, talking about how impactful it really is. Wasn't one of your points the anxiety that over-cleaning generates? Then why introduce a new anxiety over resistant bacteria without anything to back it up? Overall, very poorly thought out video. It's even worse considering it positions itself as an informative source that can speak with authority on anxiety and other issues.
Another thing I just thought about: that 1 in 10 million or whatever figure - are we supposed to absorb that in a vacuum? Tell us the odds of getting it over the air, also! Of getting it from talking with someone in close proximity, or being in a closed space, so we can compare. We can't understand a figure like that in a vacuum, it's misleading and unscientific. We should aways be presented such data relative to other relevant figures.
I'd like to see the discussion around the research and the current cleaning doctrines affect on the statistics. Because they are testing transmission rates, when everyone is wiping down surfaces, and hands all the time. Ie. Is the low statistics a result of the cleaning?
in tech quarantine had been common in European countries, but in primarily English speaking countries it was not used as much (I speak a stupid amount of different languages)
@@slipknottin They put it in there but glossed over it instead aiming for sensationalist reporting. If someone sneezes on a surface and after contact with it you touch your mouth, you could get it. In a public place like a grocery store it's possible to contact those surfaces. Yes not good to do it to everything but high touch points are an exception. They gloss over that. They talk about poison control with no context. They talk about resistant bugs with little context. It's incredibly misleading.
@@Zippyser you “could” get it, but it’s very unlikely. To the point where the CDC is now admitting that cleaning high touchpoint surfaces is mostly just for show. Focus on things that actually make a difference. Masks, ventilation, filtration, and avoiding crowds indoors. Washing hands is essential as well, if only because of all the other things you can pick up from surfaces, bacteria is common.
Let's be honest. Even if it wasn't necessary for Covid, NYC subway cars and stations definitely needed the cleaning.
So did the gyms!
@@Liusila Depends on the gymn. Some already have good cleaning practices an encourage a culture of cleaning a machine when you are finished using it.
@@olstar18 Yeah, my gym required cleaning equipment after use even before the pandemic. During the pandemic they've just been "just make double sure" and got a slightly different cleaner.
But what you're forgetting all those germs prevented the bad germs from spreading. It's like how killing all bacteria is bad for viral infections.
I do not agree. Over doing generally always have negative side effect. I would think this was not good for a lot of peoples psychology. If one has OCD or bacterial angst or just anxiety in general. Then seeing the government act like a madman and having people in spacesuits disinfecting the streets and subway is hardly good for anyone. This is dictator actions because most politicians and experts knew already then that this was ineffective and is mostly for show. I find people condoning this kind of actions very very scary.
It did get NY to clean subways though. Long needed.
I hope they cleaned the tracks while at it, they were filthy when I last lived there! The rats loved it though
Ofc
They only clean subway cars and platforms. Still plenty of rats and homeless in tunnels
@@palody_en-ja I was hoping they would spend more time on the tracks too. The delays are ridiculous sometimes and I hate it when there are no express services on the weekends sometimes.
RIGHT
I still enjoy that the busses and trains are a bit cleaner tbh, even without viruses those handles get nasty
Yeh but if things keep up, goodbye humans immune system
@@realryder2626 it’s hard to tell what the effect will be. Less exposure to different germs will probably lower our immune system, but the lowered spread of disease might also prevent viruses from mutating so quickly as well as keeping down the danger for most of the population. Hard to tell, I’m not a disease scientist or a doctor so I won’t make any strong statements about it
@@frickinfrick8488 you do realise the drastic increase in disinfectant usage will act a selection pressure making bacteria and viruses alike evolve to become more resistant to them leading to more infections in the long run...
This is how MRSA came into existence...
@@RBsRealmnot quite re: MRSA. I’d suggest you read an article titled The genesis of MRSA: resistance emerged years before the introduction of methicillin in the clinic
@@RBsRealm as a biomedical research assistant: this is not true at all, you are referring to antibiotics. Bacteria and viruses will always die/denature in the presence of disinfectants such as alcohols
Let’s not stop anyone from cleaning anything especially public places.
I prefer to use shopping carts directly from the parking lot. That way I get the germs and strengthen my immune system.
What with toxic cleaners everywhere!
And welcome the antibiotics resistance... We need those bacterias and nasty shit to improve our immunity
Thank you! I’m a nurse and we stay cleaning before and after use! This video is foolish. There is no harm in cleaning !!!!
dkarw that’s not how antibiotic resistance is caused!!!! Educate yourself!
People are nasty though. Please, at least wash your hands. I see so many people in public places that come out of the restroom stall after 💩 and walk right out without washing their hands. Also, I’ve seen people at the gym pick their nose or cough on their hands and go back to touching everything.
Completely agreed! Things like door handles and public transport should still be disinfected even after COVID-19.
I have seen people working in kitchens picking their nose or scratching their butts. Eewww. Makes you just want to go out to eat, don’t it?
definitely wash your hands right after you are through your gym session - preferably right there
...and after watching this video, they are going to go right back to doing it again...
I only open a restroom door with my sleeve, on the way in and out.
Honestly, as one of those front line workers that had to clean stuff, I think the main problem with all the cleaning was they were not training workers how to do it properly. All my training was spray the handles of the cart with this mysterious liquid and wipe it off. I was essentially never told what it was (wasn't labeled), was not always given gloves to handle it, and was given those cheap paper towels that don't absorb anything to wipe it off. People would often take a cart from me right after I cleaned it and stick their baby in there when it was still damp. I didn't work for small stores either, this happened at target and walmart.
As a side note you would be shocked at the amount of times during this pandemic I saw a co worker take off their mask, sneeze in their hands, and continue stocking the shelves.
Mysterious liquid like water? It could have been battery acid or who knows what! 😱
Hell I always avoided using carts right after they were sprayed. Whatever they used at walmart would feel sticky for a few minutes until it dried.
Wow. I’m assuming you’re in North America (I could be wrong about that but I’m sure it’s a similar situation in Europe and Asia anyway). I’m in the US and it’s illegal to have employees handle chemicals that either are or could become hazardous if you handle them wrong without providing them with adequate training and the chemical safety data sheet, which tells you what the chemical is, how to handle it, what to do if it gets on your skin/in your eyes or lungs, etc. Unlabeled containers are also a huge OSHA no-no. That’s both super yikes and also really unsurprising
@@glennso47 probably not battery acid, since that stuff does visible damage, it's probably just water because many large retailers like to be cheap and not spend a lot of money
@@sir9integra9jr Yep. That was in some of our required training too. I knew that it was very non OSHA compliant but the whole store was (at least in Target's case, didn't stay at Walmart long enough to find out). This was early on in the pandemic when everything was out of stock too so I feel like whatever it was was either not effective or safe either way.
I really wish that this would have the lasting effect of making everyone wash their hands still
True
Or moving from toilet paper to bidet
I can only speak for Brazil. H1n1 created a culture of hand sanitization and cleaning that lasted from the first case until the MOMENT people started believing corona is a Chinese conspiracy
They are done washing their hands in Charlotte NC. Hepatitis A outbreak going around now. smh
I bought a bidet nozzle that attaches to either the toilet's water line or a nearby faucet about three months before the covid lockdown. When people were scrambling for toilet paper I was washing up with warm water.
If you haven't been to a restaurant lately, have you noticed the sanitation scores have gone up? That's a good thing. Restaurants and retail businesses should be cleaning regularly, but in the past they haven't. Even if sanitizing surfaces doesn't prevent Covid-19, it's making those places actually clean for a change. It's going to reduce the number of infections from other things.
It's kind of like how covid masking brought flu cases to near zero. A lot of good habits could come from covid if were smart(more pedestrian streets!)
Precisely. The whole world could do with better hygiene habits. Although with regards to covid and other airborne viruses, good ventilation and mask usage is of upmost importance
Agreed. However I do believe corporations need to look into ways to properly disinfect without the use of harsh chemicals and then teach the employees how to properly use these cleaning agents. If used incorrectly some of the stronger disinfectants can cause serious harm as well.
@@Carolinagirl1028 I think there's going to be a choice with cleaning agents. You'll either have something that's harsh for us, kills germs, and isn't horrible for the environment, or easy on us, won't kill germs, but environmentally neutral. That's generally how cleansers and disinfectants work.
"Social distancing" never made sense to me. That's when you stop socializing/interacting with people. "Physical distancing" would've made more sense.
Next year: metaphysical distancing.
It's really, anti-social distancing. Excuse me while I twirl my mustache.
But our atoms never touch :(
Nothing makes sense besides the vaccines. All the NPIs are just useless do something panic approaches with limited to no data saying they work (no that study in Bangladesh doesn't prove "masks work")
Let’s be honest, it’s completely plausible. We touch our face and mouth CONSTANTLY without even realizing it
Yeah, and some surfaces like door handles are touched by dozens of people every hour and I'm not exactly keen on letting some stranger I cant even see, of possible questionable origins, decide about my safety. It's a small temporary inconvenience, if I was safe despite it, so be it, not much of value was lost, but on the off chance I ignored it and got really sick and suffered severe consequences I would probably spit myself in the face for the rest of my life, even if I would not be able to determine if taking the extra step would save me from it. Not worth it.
My brother's school uses watered down bleach to disinfect desks. It aggravated his asthma and once he sat in a still wet chair and bleached the butt of his pants literally the day after he bought them
Bleach also aggravates my allergies and allergic rhinitis. I learned that bleach also absorbs into skin and our body through contact and can be inhaled so it's really harmful. There was even news here in our country of a person who was sprayed bleach for decontamination( i think the mixture has high concentration) and died. I use hydrogen peroxide instead if needed.
I’ve gotten terrible rashes from some of the disinfectant products they forced you to put on your skin when entering a shop . After that I refused to do that..
People looked at me like I just killed their dog..
Bad Luck Brian
Bleach is the worst.
In my school we use watered alcohol, idk how it’s called, but i think it is something like 70% water and 30% alcohol or the other way around
My microbiology professor said this even before the pandemic
And many even talked about mask not doing anything else than making it harder to oxygen, or social distancing being useless. Yet, here we are.
@@GFKCEG I have been covering my face and staying the hell away from someone visibly ill for years. You can’t tell me there’s no difference between being in the space where a person can cough/sneeze onto you or away enough from them.
@@GFKCEG Masks do work, mainly by helping prevent aerosols from hanging in the air. Social distancing is less useful, but was useful initially when it was more difficult to get ahold of masks. However, for COVID, all the disinfection was pointless.
@@Liusila You dont understand how face masks work nor how far bacteria/viruses travel throught air.
I didnt tell "there's no difference", also learn to read. Check the facts and stop covering your face in fear. Dont let fear control you.
"good ole soap and water are still the best" (2008)
-my microbiology professor.
I became a nurse after graduation and still holds true.
In January last year (2020), I learned about the outbreak in China and sitting in the gym in the Netherlands paid close attention on how many people touch their face. People touched their face often, some people regularly as part of quirk. Now, nobody is touching their face, some people run their forearm over their forehead or pull / rub their ears.
It was such a difficult habit to break, but at this point I think we’ve mostly got it down.
people are so easily manipulated by means of fear.
@@jennys9043 not my coworker... He's touching his moustache every moment of the day.
People want to feel in control. It’s funny how many people said “wash hands/disinfect surfaces “ or put up plastic barriers, but didn’t believe in mask wearing. Since the beginning, I focused on #1. air quality, 2. mask wearing, and 3. Social distancing. We didn’t have a single case in my barbershop this entire pandemic.
This video should have come out last year
Did you watch the video?
it clearly stated that only a month ago did health organizations stop rec it
That's the thing about science, it constantly improves as specialists collect new data. Doing research takes time.
You need to watch and listen to this video so you don't make comments like that again
The government didn't say embark on a daily mission to eradicate every germ from your home. I think what they meant was keep your environment clean in general and focus on high risk areas daily. I am fairly sure huffing dettol was not suggested.
@@aprilporter7908 the video isn't about overdoing cleaning, it goes against disinfecting surfaces in general and only mention overdoing it in passing. Really poorly written
Its better to just assume everything is dirty and wash your hands, and keep your fingers out of your mouth and eyes. Its a good habit to have anyway.
No, your immune system gets stronger the more you expose it to bacteria and dirt.
@@GFKCEG To an extent, yes. But you can still avoid the nastiest stuff. I cashiered for a few years, you don't want to know how filthy money is.
@@LuthienNightwolf i do actually, yet covid is non lethal on healthy people.
@@GFKCEG That is very much untrue. It's caused by an over active immune response and that isn't something that only non healthy folks have. Hard core top of the line athletes have been killed by it
@@GFKCEG So just because something is non-lethal then that automatically makes it not very dangerous? Death is not the only thing that matters here, some people are left with permanent holes in their lungs or other damage after the virus.
And it's potentially lethal on healthy people anyway. For some the immune system reacts so strongly that it becomes more dangerous than the virus itself.
There would have been a lot more deaths if we let the virus spread unhindered and the hospitals couldn't keep.
Getting an ad for lysol spray before this video 😂, perfect
Idk, I've grown to like the taste of clorox on my food
Bill Gates also likes the taste of clorox on YOUR food.
Omg
You have to inject it to cure covid according to our orange leader
@@rurutuM no, according to how CNN deforms speech for its propagnada.
@@GFKCEG he own half the farm land in the US. So u eating food makes him money
Disinfecting surfaces lead to false security where people think they're safe while they should still focus on not touching face, limiting social gathering, and continuing to wear masks.
They also said that masks leading to false sense of security. Recently CDC said that chance of getting covid via surfaces are 1 in 10 million (I thought people that are that dumb to lick door knobs are much more common). The problem in attempts to generalize everything for people who have no brains at all.
@@vladimirseven777 Exactly. It's great that they're getting studies to fundament their arguments but they're not a free pass to generalize everything. They need to comprehend the limited range of applicability
But Mask and social distancing also DONT WORK. Those are also false security tokens.
@GFK CEG It does work. I always got sick every winter (sometimes worse than others) but since the start of the pandemic I've been perfectly fine. The only change was wearing a mask and very strict social distancing. I don't even disinfect more than normal pre pandemic cleaning. People (and animals) carry a lot of bugs.
@@moteroargentino7944 your personal life doensnt add here. In general flue and influenza sickness practically dissapeared, even their respective death rates. In some places even diabethis dead rate was cut, while we know covid kills diabethics. So what?
It might not help much with covid, but it really helps a lot with educating people to be hygienic, and grocery stores regularly clean their conveyor belts and shopping carts which were extremely unsanitary before covid.
Exactly. There has to be a happy medium between being a cleaning maniac and a clean person with good hygiene habits.
Keeping in mind cleaning and desinfecting are different things. Only clean surfaces can be desinfected as a desinfectant will not penetrate the dirt to kill any microbes under the dirt layer.
Just a reminder, don't forget to wash our hands
That too for 2 minutes atleast
@@DyslexicMitochondria Ayyy man I watch ur channeI. Love ur content
Nice virtue signaling, you earned +10 social credits
Even if disinfectant doesn't reduce the spread of Covid-19 it is still good to do to reduce the spread of other viruses.
This is more of argument about changing the way we clean things.
No because schools will make students drink bleach and use illegial hand sanitiser because it is cheaper.
@@insectbite1714 lol
Exactly. I work at a grocery store & customers always want you to wipe everything down & sanitize your hands. Nobody cared before covid-19, so clearly their concern isn't other viruses.
I have no problem doing these things for customers, i just find it funny how everybody cares now but it doesn't even help
Did you watch the video? The problem is not only viruses but bacteria too, because it can and will adapt to anything we throw at it. Not to mention intoxication due to abuse of cleaning chemicals. It's good to desinfect but no more than we used to before the pandemic.
@@moteroargentino7944 that's literally what I'm saying.. people forgot about all viruses & bacteria except covid. There's no reason to clean surfaces more than we did beforehand. It's doing more harm than good. These life forms can and will adapt.
Edit: Viruses are not "alive", but still mutate over time. We can see this already with covid variants across the world
I would really appreciate it if you would turn on the captions setting on your videos. Deaf & Hard of Hearing folks and many others like me find it difficult to follow a video without them. Thanks in advance :)
Wow, thanks! You just made me realised that this feature was not automatically on for all videos. I thought that even though the publisher of the video may not have provided subtitles, UA-cam still provided speach to text captions automatically. Have a great day!
@@djinn130 they actually changed that recently I think. I remember hearing about an outcry when UA-cam removed the auto generated captions and making them default
Look for the "CC" on videos.
What kind of bullshit is this? If you need subtitles, turn them on yourself! You still can see right?
Subtitles by default are NOT needed by 99% of the viewers!
You don't enable a feature by default if most people don't need it!!
Oversensitive woke bullshit -.-
I read a study on covid that wasn't about this. It was about asymptomatic people but the study went into other things that felt like it deserved it's own study. One of which was that it didn't appear to transmit through surfaces much at all. I read the actual study too. Not the whole thing though. The majority of what I read was about how difficult it was to find someone infected with covid who was truly asymptomatic. Most who think they were asymptomatic still had mild symptoms they were unaware of.
When somebody uninfected is told he or she is infected en is being asked about symtoms , they suddenly remember them. Same thing.
That Covid primarily spreads through the air doesn´t mean you won´t get infected from a surface. Disinfecting random surfaces at home and such is nonsense of course. However disinfecting public places still made quite a bit of sense (and makes sense in general).
You missed one of the largest costs of all this hygiene theatre: it increased resistance to effective measures like mask-wearing. People felt they were being asked to do too much and rebelled by refusing to comply, or felt that if they were doing all the cleaning, they could skip the mask.
Even bigger cost of the hygiene theater and mask shaming was that attention to what was circulating in the air of enclosed spaces was totally disregarded or ignored. I am especially speaking to mask wearers and people who want to enforce mask mandates. Clean the air, otherwise the air in enclosed spaces is IDLH. Immediately Dangerous to Life and Health.
it was ALL THEATRE. based on lies people would drop dead in the street fueled by lies from the CCCP. I never changed my cleaning habits as they were enough already, locked myself in or wore a mask, if shops dont like it i take my CASH elsewhere! weak ass lefties gasp thinking i lucky to be alive. lol. just like the other 42 years of my life, i am and well. lets use antibacterial products on a virus. i bet you take antibiotics for EVERYTHING! im not slamming it. if you think a mask helps go for it. its like stopping a sandstorm with a chain link fence. all alcohol does is sterilize the skin biome away. i have bacteria on my skin that fights crap like that off. so did you. and yes, i told the doc to put his fake vaccine where the sun doesn't shine. i look forward to the enquiries.
@@davidedgar7338 You’re proving his point. Lol😂
@Ben Angelobut no flu deaths this year? Is the death toll more than any other year...
@@namibianamibia1138 No flu deaths when everyone is wearing masks and distancing? Weird. I think the government controls influenza, and they need to stop covid cause it's a different government that controls the rona virus. They want this to stop this as much as you and you're playing into china's hand you traitor
Not to think of all these plastic containers being discarded.
All precautions were justified until we knew better.
This what people don't understand. You don't know what you're battling, so you have to try every known method until you see what sticks.
We are still required to wear masks outside in some places and disinfect our hands when entering some places despite the facts it’s useless
@@mats7492 Masks are not useless, lol. It's the only reason why China is clear from disease.
Thank you!!!
Except we did know better. We knew very early on that most people under the age of 65 had a 0.1% mortality rate, we knew the harm these chemicals could inflict on the entire population, the government knowingly relaxed FDA regulations and imported hand sanitizer/cleaning products previously banned from the USA due to the shortage, we had endless decades of medical papers and references on the risk of over sanitization and damage to our immune system. We risked the safety of billions to save thousands. We did know, but let fear over take what knowledge we already had.
As an essential worker it became increasingly apparent that it wasn’t surface to surface contact. Like someone would have to lick a desk. XD
Are you saying that I should stop licking desks?
@@friedchicken1 No, just disinfect your tongue afterwards.
@@farshimelt oh, thank God. Thanks man!
I'm just sad this kind of information isn't in other languages. I'd love to be able to tell my mother that her obsessive cleaning disorder isn't necessary.
I think it was still worth it to be careful. It also probably helped manage other potential illnesses like the flu and cold. I personally really liked being in a cleaner space.
I've been cleaning stuff at the market since the very start. We only use water with bleach in it with some bootleg paper towels and I can't tell you how many times wind blew that stuff in my face and eyes in combination with it constantly irritating the skin on my hands as well as ruining 2 shirts and 2 pairs of pants. It sucks to find out that much of that was pretty much for nothing at this point.
Don't be sorry about it. I did it even before the pandemic, only using 70% ethyl alcohol instead since it is irritates far less (dries the skin though if not careful, but nothing more). My mom has been doing it all her life, and she's 60. I don't know anyone with less respiratory infections than her. It's just nicer to put clean items in the fridge and cabinets, without the dust from supermarket shelves, grime, residue from spilled products. Less risk from cross contamination when cooking and so on.
“How did we get this so wrong?”
*looks at American education system*
That’s why
Don't worry, they are putting 5 G on schools to help.
@@insectbite1714 ok karen
@@insectbite1714 Ok conspiracy theorist.
It's sensationalism. There's nothing "so wrong", what's "so wrong" is not wearing your masks, not washing your hands, not practicing social distancing. For most people, cleaning surfaces at worst made them waste their time. Cheddar presents no studies for this resitant bacteria threat they propose.
It’s not “we” or “Americans” that got this wrong. It was health agencies throughout the world, including the WHO.
Remember when they told us we didn’t need masks
And we still don't need them.
American
@@fikridjojo What do you mean? What American?
They said that because if we panic bought masks right away none of the doctors and caregivers of sick people would have any and that would be bad. It was a calculated risk, they were looking out for the people around the infected at the time
@@theworstdadjoke6518 We don't need masks because of this : swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/ We do need masks because big pharma needs a scared world population to sell "vaccins".
Last time i was this early, covid-19 was called corona
...it is a coronavirus. Covid-19 is just the name of the variant that came out in 2019, but it’s still “corona.”
@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 2019 feels so much longer ago than it really is. I feel like due to the negligence of people there is going to be a new super strain that develops that cause us to go back into lockdown due to not enough people ether having access to the vaccine or people that do not getting vacinated
What about SARS-CoV-2?
Full name: SARS-CoV-2.
Nick name: Corona
Family name: Corona
Short name: Covid-19
Specific name: (I'm not a scientist)
I remember scientists and teachers telling me back in the 90s if we kill and destroy even just 30% of the bacterium in the world all life would die. We live in an ecosystem designed on balance and that balance can fluctuate just fine but once you decimate a system it starts to fall apart. And decimation starts at what is considered 10% or more. Also government agencies and laboratories that play with this stuff is just asking for trouble. Doctors and scientists will never be able to control all living organisms.
Random note: A human body contains more bacterial cells than human cells.
The Atlantic covered this last year. This was common knowledge for a while. Check out their piece 'The Scourge of Hygiene Theatre,' which was even followed up by a Part 2 article.
Most of America is security and hygiene theater. They have no idea what they are doing.
Right-that article cites Emanuel Goldman (interviewed in this video) who wrote about the “exaggerated risk of transmission of COVID-19 by fomites” in _The Lancet_ and called the risk of that transmission “negligible.” I think it would have been better if this Cheddar video had connected the various dots.
@@dickriggles942 Tell me about it. And don't even get me started with TSA/airport security. ugh
@@jeff__w Very true. I also really am not a fan of Cheddar's often times subpar sound mixing. The music that they use for their videos often clashes with the narration and voiceovers, making it a real challenge to hear what is being said.
@@FGH9G I simply won't fly because I don't want to be sexually assaulted by a government agency that doesn't even stop terrorism before getting on a plane.
We did it because we didn't know how it spread in the early days. Simple as that.
Cleaning surfaces was a reasonable response.
Still cleaning surfaces beyond what is necessary for standard hygiene a year later is a little odd. However, some of the increased cleaning standards in certain public spaces should probably be kept anyways.
This is serious because for people with OCD this prompt to clean is triggering.
The whole pandemic is triggering. They should seek help instead of seeking definitive answers from a 6 minute poorly thought out video
People with OCD are going to do it anyway. Excuse me while I straighten up the papers on my desk.
All you need to rid surfaces from SARS-CoV-2 (and lots of other pathogens) is 20 seconds of exposure to concentrated neutral soap diluted in water. But after 14 months, most things and systems were not adapted to allow this simple cleaning method. Finding a place to simply wash your hands is still often a challenge. Of course I support better air cleaning methods and social distancing. Everything counts, and cleaning surfaces does count a little bit - but not enough to justify using anything other than soap and isopropyl alcohol.
Worried about SARS-CoV-2 on floors? Stop licking the floor.
I got COVID without leaving my house! My wife received a food delivery from a friend (while I was on the roof), she was wearing gloves and came in the house and started disinfecting everything to put it in the fridge. Within 3mins I came into the house before she could clean the doorknob. For a second I thought to go wash my hands right away but I had a meeting on Zoom. Two days later my friend was really sick, two days later I started with all of her symptoms and her whole family also got Covid at the same time. A couple of days later I lost my sense of smell and taste and had to admit that I had COVID too and started taking the Zpack I had. I got better in about a week. But it's been a month and I'm still tired. My friend and I are fully vaccinated. I believe Covid OCD is bad... but now I know getting COVID is worst. There must be a balance, at least until they can prove that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get Covid without physical contact with a person.
Not to mention all the waste disinfecting everything produced. In Belgium shopping carts are disinfected with spray and paper towels. So much waste.
The worst part of this obsessive cleaning is that it absorbed the majority of public health policy information and public's attention. It was 80% focused on cleaning stuff and washing hands, giving people a sense of false security. The actual modes of transmission became secondary and often poorly managed.
I've seen videos of people spraying the ground. Odd....
I've been saying this for almost a year now. For example when my gym opened with limited capacity (10 people) we had to carry around a spray bottle and wipe down everything we touched. Seemed like overkill, especially when you consider we had to sanitize our hands when we walked in, wear masks the whole time, the gym was huge, and the equipment was all separated from each other.
My worry was it was doing more harm than good, by increasing the likelihood of germs resisting the cleaner. My suspicion was these policies where conjured up by business people with little scientific background. I think there was a pressure for smaller businesses to implement as many precautions as possible in the name of "safety" to justify being open.
This scientist guy's wig is spectacular
Yeah, but the poor mop head that gave its life to be put on his head.
I'm saddened I had to scroll down so far to see this. The moment I saw that majestic mop I knew *someone* had to have mentioned it in the comments. F for the poor mink that gave his life to cover this man's bald spot. :D
The increased cleaning of public spaces has been wonderful if not effective for it's intended purpose. I think a lot of positive outcomes from covid measures like reduced bacterial infections, respiratory illnesses etc. will be obscured by the shift in resources to covid.
I honestly wouldn't say it's ineffective. High touch surfaces like in a public place still have changed. But they quickly retracted the cardboard bit for instance.
Let's not kid ourselves here. People touch their faces all the time. We don't even realise it. Better safe than sorry.
That's why you should wash your hands. It's easier and more effective than disinfecting every single surface that may or may not have the virus.
so you disinfect a surfsce with bleach. then touch that surface. then touch your face.
did you miss the part of the video where the harsh chemicals in disinfectants resulted in a sharp increase in poison control emergencies?
@@kickwriteteach2313 I believe the poison control bit is referring to mixing of disinfectants, which causes noxious fumes. If you're using one type of disinfectant on your hands, you're probably fine on this front. The part about the potential for becoming obsessive compulsive however, that definitely applies!
NO: “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
― Benjamin Franklin
Nah
Years ago in college I attended a talk that our professor suggested we go to. It was boring. So I took out a piece of paper and wrote, "Attendence sheet" (misspelled on purpose). And I passed it around the lecture hall. Everyone started signing it. People who didn't have a pen had to ask people around them for a pen. It noisily got passed up and down through all the aisles. People got up and walked to the next aisle across the room to make sure it got signed. At the end someone stood up and asked if everyone signed the "Attendance sheet". People who didn't sign it went up and formed a line to sign it. I walked up and tried to tell the people signing it that I started passing it around as a joke. I pointed out that "Attendance" is spelled wrong. It didn't matter. Nobody believed me. Everyone just kept signing it and everyone wanted to make sure they didn't leave unless their name was on that sheet. I don't know what ever happened to that sheet. I mean, who did they decide to give it to after it was all signed? The moral here: Once people get something in their head, especially if they are convinced that it's "the right / virtuous thing to do", it's almost impossible for them to stop even after facing overwhelming evidence that they're doing it for absolutely no reason.
Makes me think about all the times I went to music festivals / concerts and only came home with a hangover.
This makes me feel a little safer about going to the the park but when I get back from outside should I continue to disinfect my phone and cleaning my hands
Disinfecting hands is good. You never know when you might unknowingly touch you face. Better safe than sorry.
@@uignireddngfiurdsgfiurdse I get what you mean when I go grocery shopping I use hand sanitizer 2-3 times incase I touch my face and also when I get home I disinfect objects that were in my pocket that I commonly touched during shopping such as my phone and wallet
Wash your hands, wipe down the phone. I would have done this before the pandemic
@@palody_en-ja even before the pandemic I always washed my hands and maybe once every 2 weeks I would disinfect my phone but the pandemic just made me do cleaning more often
@@uignireddngfiurdsgfiurdse It depends from what you mean by "touching face". If something like "Lindsey Graham’s ‘Finger In The Boogie Jar’" then I think you should disinfect more than your hands.
I remember people not going into the ocean because they were afraid of the water. Like the fear of sharks. Instead they go for a safe drive🙄
People alone are pretty smart.. put them in herds and they become mindless idiots who become afraid of their own shadows..
Gold.
Disinfecting surfaces is not a wrong practice; it's reducing potential viral transmission just like wearing masks.
The problem is that some people are not disinfecting surfaces correctly or do it with wrong products.
Please do not mix the concepts and spread wrong information.
I spray shopping carts and baskets at my job, should I be worried for my breathing?
Maybe.
It’s a useless activity...virtue signaling
@@mats7492 The virtue signaling narrative had to appear.
Not if you wear a mask.
People were even disinfecting potato 🥔 chips bags ..... 🤷♂️
At the beggining of the pandemic in my country I was super relaxed working in retail as I saw hordes of mad people coming in rushing as soon as the shop opened up to buy desinfectant, bleach, other hygiene products and also toilet paper, bottled water and cereal boxes.
People stocked up in basic hygiene needs, stuff like canned food that would last months and other basic stuff, back then masks werent mandatory, we knew it was transmissible through coughing and sneezing, but we werent aware how it worked, so facial masks were something suggested but we had no stock, however everyone wore gloves, not a single person was without them.
The cleaning frenzy started and masks were mandatory 2 months here after the quarentine in march, we wore masks till now in closed off spaces and even back in october it was made mandatory to wear outside walking on the street too.
This is the main reason I put on soo much weight, i have a daytime job but it doesnt burn me any calories, so I just either go to work or stay at home, because 8 hours wearing a mask is more than enough for me.
The whole gloves and desinfectant thing never made much sense to me, it's like trying to clean a surface that someone else 5 minutes later is just gonna splatter a bucket of wet paint all over it again.
masks make sense you're protecting yourself and others
gloves can be infected if u touch ur nose and then use the same glove to touch any surface, and vice versa, an infected surface can pass the virus to ur glove as u touch a nose.
we arent sure how long the virus lasts in surfaces but its pointless to go crazy about cleaning, it pays off more if u just protect yourself.
Gosh i just want this to be over.
People are already saying we need a third vaccine shot, a nasal spray for covid and animals are also getting covid vaccines, this is just getting out of hand.
"Say you've never gotten severe and life-threatening COVID-19, without saying you've never gotten severe and life-threatening COVID-19."
I learned about this two years before the rona hit when I was working in a health care setting.
We really need to take a cue from the permaculture world when dealing with the "microbiome".
We should only be using non toxic cleaners for bacteria, and virus.
Washing with water and elbow grease are enough in most cases to keep things clean.
I mean, are you drinking the disinfects?? That's not how you are suppose to use them...
@@jeremyg7261 we should all just pickle ourselves in our own piss.
Its airborne, in the air ventilators like a gas, and no one can stop it from infecting whole apartment high rises and apartment complexes through the vents and AC.
I wonder if widespread cleaning and masking had any effect on other infectious diseases numbers throughout the last year (TB, hepatitis, flu etc).
It has in Norway, sort of. It was in the news here recently: Numbers of deaths is lower now than before the pandemic. Social distancing is of course one reason. But they think one reason is better sanitation/hygiene. I hope it lasts.
Masks, social distancing (silly name, perfectly sensible practice) and lockdowns absolutely Tanked cold and flu rates in the places where they occurred during cold and flu seasons. Admittedly, the lockdowns were the big one there, but the other stuff helped a lot too.
No one got the flu for the first time here in the Netherlands, and I barely heard people sneezing and coughing from a cold last winter. And I both travel with public transit daily, and work on location, so you notice the difference fast.
anecdote here, but I've hadn't the flu more than a year
The number of cases found for disease is public info, you can look that up. At least, in the US you can. Flu numbers are DRASTICALLY down. My school age kiddos usually get several colds a year, this year we only had two. Preventing covid spread prevents the spread of lots of other stuff, too.
I don’t think regularly cleaning surfaces is gonna magically give you OCD
Were still doing this in Canada. Iv been yelled at because I put my grocery items on the belt at the cash before it was given its half ass wipe down.
Same
They don't bother in the UK . the Q be too long. They want your money asap
Idiots are still doing it here too. I honestly don't understand it but hey I didn't fall for the hysteria
It is rather amusing that I got an advert for a surface disinfecting product when I clicked on this video.
I haven't changed one thing outside wearing a mask in the store.
lol wait for the 2022 cheddar video on masks. Do you know where and from what your mask was made? Studies on real-life use of mask/storage vs controlled laboratory studies? I'm interested to see how many of these points they are addressed on the "science" sold about disinfecting will them come out about masks.
I feel that just because it’s being said that cleaning didn’t help during the pandemic doesn’t mean things shouldn’t still be getting cleaned, especially in public places. People, companies, etc. should have been doing this regardless of pandemic or not.
Mac Donald’s self order touch screen.
FAIL didn’t instruct the person to wipe their germs off the touch screen after printing receipt . 🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠
We were all taught during covid to wipe surfaces .
Places with a lot of people like trains and hospitals. Yes.
But places with little interaction.
Clean things regardless. There are poop particles on everything in public. 🤷
Damn, so many people pooping in public these days. Maybe that's why they invented dump trucks.
I did it last year and now I am trying to convince my mom to desist from it.
A study in Finland showed children that played in the dirt grew up healthier than those that played inside.
I wish every grocery store chain would watch this video. I'm a professional instacart shopper and I still see most stores continue to wipe down the carts before they let another shopper use them. It's so unnecessary.
Honestly I’m glad they’re doing that regardless of COVID. People are nasty and don’t wash their hands
@@vacuumblink2300 it's a placebo or maybe homeopathy.
The Economist field not doing so hot?
It helps on high touch areas but is less effective on other areas.
It's like sweeping sand in a desert. It's pointless and you're just getting it all over the place.
You're breath and in the environment is full of microbes. When you disinfect your just replacing one set of germs for another.
Just wash your hands, wear a mask and gloves.
@@theFLCLguy I always wear a mask and gloves when I rob 7/11s.
I didn’t Purell to hell. It was destroying my hands. Like abrasions.
If it’s so bad for your health then you can wear proper PPE when disinfecting like a mask and gloves which the CDC always has recommended. 🙄
except many stores were actively telling people they could not wear gloves into stores/on transportation. So even if someone wears gloves during the cleaning, that surface is still coated in chemicals (sometimes not even dry by the following spray) for the public to touch and become exposed to. Nevermind your groceries and food items being exposed
@@TJ-bu9zk True. Some chemicals may go through the packing. On a similar note; I remember the first time I got eggs straight from the farm, I didn’t know anything but I just washed them with dish soap thinking that they may need a wash because they came straight from the chicken coup. I learned that actually there is a membrane around the egg that protects it and I just washed it off and there are also pores in the egg shell and I likely got chemicals inside the egg. Oops!
It's looking like low dose hydroxychloroquine (+zinc) is safer and more effective than those new experimental vaccines. And ivermectin also appears safer and more effective than those new experimental vaccines. Remember to keep your vitamin D levels high and don't be deficient in other vitamins and minerals.
I started working from home when it all hit the fan in the States but I never deep cleaned much at all.
Stories of it going through air vents in apartment buildings in Hong Kong in January cemented that it was airborne.
It's people, it's always been other people. Limit your contacts and you limit the virus.
But it's hard for people to come to terms with the fact that it was really THAT SIMPLE.
I got it in December due to....a family gathering that had to happen :/
Dealt with "COVID toes", bad inflammation of my toes and finger tips from Christmas until I got the vaccine in March.
The US did what we needed early on, shelter but we reopened without mask mandates and here we are.
Cast e o = Castillo, tort e ah = tortilla :)
If she is Filipina, she would pronounce it as in the video. Like "Castio".
@@NinjaXryho very interesting :)
They actually told us when they made those lab results that it was based on a lab environment. So that’s not true. I remember that.
I surely am hopeful that restaurants will continue disinfectanting surfaces in the future. As well as public transport.
Yes but thats like saying the size 4 font at the bottom of the advertisement says "results not typical" so you can't feel deceived.
Omg does this mean I can stop washing my groceries 😂
Lmfao I’m thinking the same thing
If you were doing it to prevent catching covid: yes! If you were trying to wash of pesticides, it depends on the pesticide whether that's helpful at all 🙃
@@Snowshowslow leave your fruits and veges in a bowl with water and a tbl. of white vinegar for 10 mins. and that will kill off the external pesticides. Nothing you can do about the ones that have been absorbed. I also soak organically grown food.
Snowshowslow idc about pesticides
@@andramanda1331 Then yes, haha :D
I feel like its unnecessary to clean the streets but the airports and train stations needed it.
"Follow the science" "We are following CDC guidelines" "Trust the science" "The science can never be wrong". I wonder if Cheddar will make a segment in 6-12 months about the errors of these 'do-no-wrong' shots.
And they ruined the video by saying that masks and social distancing do help. Like they are still being brainwashed after all the statistics showing all this bullshit makes no difference. Like North Dakota VS South Dakota.
People are still in denial 😑
Science isn't about "never being wrong." Science embraces the idea of updating prior beliefs in light of new evidence, which is exactly what this video describes.
We were told to sanitize common surfaces because it made sense at the time, with the knowledge we had. Now there is new evidence suggesting the benefit isn't as good as we once thought, and this evidence is strong enough that the CDC website has been updated to reflect that.
Should the sanitation frenzy have happened? Perhaps not, at least not to the degree it did. But I'd rather the CDC be willing to change their recommendations rather than dig their heels in and exercise excessive authoritarianism.
I didn’t get addicted to cleaning more than usual but hand sanitzer. Especially as a cashiere. I once started the day without one and felt relief when I was able to grab one.
I've always thought ventilation is the key to a clean environment
So everyone else with little common sense. Dont feel proud about it, feel shame if you dont understand the obvious; at least everyone understands how fish on a tank work, there's not even intelligence behind.
Ventilation, filtration, masks when indoors, and preventing crowding are the keys to preventing covid transmission, and by extension, most respiratory viruses.
Scientist: Find out how long a virus could survive on surface
Reporter: No no no, it doesn't work that way.
I rather believe in Scientist than a reporter.
"The government" is there just one these days? Also I love how you claim words like "quarantine" have been added to our vocabulary. Lolz.
Lmao. Maybe to our vernacular but certainly not vocabulary. Jornos these days...
Is this video saying public transport doesn't normally get cleaned in the USA?
Waiting on science to do 180 and admit that masks are too make more harm than good.
We have known masks prevent transmission of viruses for over 100 years. The debate since then has been which viruses transmit by aerosols, and which by droplets. Most of the studies done recently show respiratory viruses transmit mostly by aerosols, which makes masks a requirement to slow/prevent the spread.
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00869-2/fulltext
In one of the disinfectant spray, it indicates the spray (solution) has to stay damp on the surface for 6 minutes to be effective. Just spray & wipe will not disinfect the surface, only superficial grimes.
Really disliked this video. I think it's even a bit sensationalist. It downplays the fact that you can touch a surface then touch your mouth. I mean, unless you literally only touch your mouth immediately after washing your hands (without closing the faucet with them), you'd have touched some number of surfaces.
Then the point against cleaning is more against overdoing it then actually cleaning itself. Obviously if you obsess over it then that's bad, doesn't say anything about the act itself though. Also the issue with mixing products has always existed, it's nothing new to our current situation.
Finally there's the "big issue" they use as the main argument, breeding resistant bacteria. They should've brought studies here as well, talking about how impactful it really is. Wasn't one of your points the anxiety that over-cleaning generates? Then why introduce a new anxiety over resistant bacteria without anything to back it up?
Overall, very poorly thought out video. It's even worse considering it positions itself as an informative source that can speak with authority on anxiety and other issues.
Another thing I just thought about: that 1 in 10 million or whatever figure - are we supposed to absorb that in a vacuum? Tell us the odds of getting it over the air, also! Of getting it from talking with someone in close proximity, or being in a closed space, so we can compare.
We can't understand a figure like that in a vacuum, it's misleading and unscientific. We should aways be presented such data relative to other relevant figures.
Thank you is a very misleading video and needs to be taken down and redone.
I thought as much. I didn’t catch Covid randomly. I caught it from sleeping in the same bed as my infected wife 😄
Thank you for sharing some common sense!
If you can make a video about the vaccine so that we can share with friends and family it would be great!
I'd like to see the discussion around the research and the current cleaning doctrines affect on the statistics. Because they are testing transmission rates, when everyone is wiping down surfaces, and hands all the time.
Ie. Is the low statistics a result of the cleaning?
I rock vinegar for day to day and disinfectant once a month on hard surfaces
Do you rock it long enough to put it to sleep?
Reminds me of the experts telling us last year that mask don't work against covid but then we ended up having to wear masks
One is stuck playing the impassioned protagonist in one’s Subjective Narrative of Self 🎈
Why yes 👏
bacteria will gone
virus? virus say hello
"asymptomatic" and "quarantine" are new (or previously very uncommon) words????????????????
But I've know them for several years?
I think they're saying that they've only been used often by the public within the past year
in tech quarantine had been common in European countries, but in primarily English speaking countries it was not used as much (I speak a stupid amount of different languages)
@@gavinthecrafter they weren't before?
Everyone hasn't
@@yosefvargasx woah
Everyone became a Sheldon Cooper right after Covid.
This video has so much flawed logic.
Like what?
@@slipknottin It's packed to the gils with misinformation.
@@Zippyser like what?
@@slipknottin They put it in there but glossed over it instead aiming for sensationalist reporting. If someone sneezes on a surface and after contact with it you touch your mouth, you could get it. In a public place like a grocery store it's possible to contact those surfaces. Yes not good to do it to everything but high touch points are an exception. They gloss over that.
They talk about poison control with no context. They talk about resistant bugs with little context. It's incredibly misleading.
@@Zippyser you “could” get it, but it’s very unlikely. To the point where the CDC is now admitting that cleaning high touchpoint surfaces is mostly just for show. Focus on things that actually make a difference. Masks, ventilation, filtration, and avoiding crowds indoors. Washing hands is essential as well, if only because of all the other things you can pick up from surfaces, bacteria is common.
Recent studies have shown that the coronavirus can live for days on New York City public transportation surfaces