Question for you. With hitting the ground running right out of the gate on a new barrel, with the common knowledge of barrels speeding up around 150-200 rounds. With your load that's already shooting one hole, how long do you leave it there before you personally start to tweak the powder charge due to velocity change? if you have a new barrel with a new caliber, do you need to burn 150 shots before starting load dev?
looks awesome John, really can't get any better gear than that. Blacknight, Majesta, Flavio, RAD, Brux, EC Tuner, Dima stock, Neo X. Top of the line for sure. Hope you enjoy it.
John what's your opinion on the Hart RAD 2a system. I've been talking about Jason Avila about a stock and he mentioned it as an option. It seems cool but I don't know if it's worth the extra $. I'll be shooting 6.5 and 7 PRC with 1.250 straight 30" barrels. Would it be beneficial ?
The RAD helps reduce the felt recoil. They were made for shotguns originally. It makes shooting a lot more enjoyable, especially shooting multiple matches a day. A good question to ask when thinking about it is would you rather shoot a 22 all day long or a 338? In the end it’s all a personal preference, I personally use them because I have shoulder issues and I can shoot all day long and not feel like my shoulder is beingbeing ripped off of my body.
Beautiful looking rifle John! Looks like it will be a great shooter for you. Quick question for you, I noticed that the rifle doesn't torque on you as much when you fire it. Have you changed anything? Other than the obvious new action and barrel. Just wondering...
No not really but keep in mind there's a variety of charges and bullet weights you may see in any given video. So in a video where you may see more torque there could've been something about it causing a little more torque.
I've always had to shoot and move my gun to line up with the point of impact. Then move/adjust the scope to original point of aim. Are these scopes settings inversed?
no you bend the barrel with the push bolt on the side of the stock then use the climomentor on the scope, the climonmentor is a small titanium bolt on the scope to move 2 prisms inside the ocular
Good Barrel, Excellent Action. Good Smith. Just develop your load and your good to go. I've stopped break in barrels years ago. When my smith told me to stop wasting time and bullets on that process
You did indeed, along with the thrilling and such challenging aspects of F-Class. The only thing these guys do these days is pull a trigger. Can you imagine the stress? LOLOL
Fireforming brass (if really necessary for your chamber) is a separate issue. Also, a number of competitive cartridges shoot great while fire forming both in PRS or F Class but worst case some people just take an old barrel and run all their brass through it so they don't burn out a good barrel.
Eric Cortina doesn't break in his barrels. I never have for jeez 60 years hunting in Utah. 300 WM or 3006 has been the normal old school rifle. UA-cam nonsense if you ask me.
Also, your shooting discipline is very different from his. Most of the time i don't see hunter's trying to shoot under a quarter. With that being said I agree with you
Damn if i could shoot at nite I would never be home! Love that stock. Does the RAD do much good? Is the Black Knight worth the extra $. Does yours have the new fire control with the weight system?
He is shooting with Black Knight XD with Generation 1 fire control to establish baseline. Next is using same equipment but with Generation 2 (weight system and different weight springs)
i dont do anything to my barrels - f class john i dont change my oil - indy car driver why waste your time with any attempts of procuring longevity of barrel life when you get them supplied for free ? me being of the non inductable due to my not having any legendary elbows to rub or super cool icons to take me under a wing, want to do whatever i can to get the most out of a new barrel . including standing on my head shooting with my brown eye as per recommended procedure, which i have done ... more than once . yes . it works
Question for you. With hitting the ground running right out of the gate on a new barrel, with the common knowledge of barrels speeding up around 150-200 rounds. With your load that's already shooting one hole, how long do you leave it there before you personally start to tweak the powder charge due to velocity change? if you have a new barrel with a new caliber, do you need to burn 150 shots before starting load dev?
John you are a sage...a true gentleman and a scholar. Thanks for all of the content you create, I love to watch your stuff.
looks awesome John, really can't get any better gear than that. Blacknight, Majesta, Flavio, RAD, Brux, EC Tuner, Dima stock, Neo X. Top of the line for sure. Hope you enjoy it.
Thank you.
Great video. I brake my barrels in the same way.
I love that stock!. I'm thinking about getting a Cyrus for my 6.5 PRC binch gun.
His stock is a Dima
Have to put it in context... these high quality barrels are not same as the mass produced factory barrels on hunting rifles
Hi @FClassJohn - what do you do with your old stocks? - like ones that fit a Borden BRMXD?
Oh you got the new hotness in there. Black Knight feel good? Wha power are you zeroing at?
Feels great, and it's only going to get better. I zero at 80x
@ Nice! Those BK for sale yet or are they still only with the Wrecking Crew?
Hi John, Thank you for another informative video. It's nice seeing how a pro does things. :^)
Thanks for watching!
Hi John, what calibre and projectile weight were you using?
You need to shoot Hazzbro's hammer time!❤❤❤
Thanks for the ride along!
You bet!
John,
Ya might try bore sighting first.
Amazing groups!
I would like to.
Buy one of your old actions
John what's your opinion on the Hart RAD 2a system. I've been talking about Jason Avila about a stock and he mentioned it as an option. It seems cool but I don't know if it's worth the extra $. I'll be shooting 6.5 and 7 PRC with 1.250 straight 30" barrels. Would it be beneficial ?
The RAD helps reduce the felt recoil. They were made for shotguns originally. It makes shooting a lot more enjoyable, especially shooting multiple matches a day. A good question to ask when thinking about it is would you rather shoot a 22 all day long or a 338? In the end it’s all a personal preference, I personally use them because I have shoulder issues and I can shoot all day long and not feel like my shoulder is beingbeing ripped off of my body.
What is the Benchrest you are using?
You mean the front rest? I showed it at the beginning of the video. It's a Neo X
Beautiful looking rifle John! Looks like it will be a great shooter for you. Quick question for you, I noticed that the rifle doesn't torque on you as much when you fire it. Have you changed anything? Other than the obvious new action and barrel. Just wondering...
No not really but keep in mind there's a variety of charges and bullet weights you may see in any given video. So in a video where you may see more torque there could've been something about it causing a little more torque.
@FClassJohn Sounds good John, thank you for the response.
Was the rifle stock bedded for the new action?..
@@diamon4u no but it’s the same footprint as the BRMXD. Even so I’ll eventually skim coat the new actions.
I've always had to shoot and move my gun to line up with the point of impact. Then move/adjust the scope to original point of aim. Are these scopes settings inversed?
no you bend the barrel with the push bolt on the side of the stock then use the climomentor on the scope, the climonmentor is a small titanium bolt on the scope to move 2 prisms inside the ocular
Is that 7prcw? Real nice scope! Fit Fiouu!
Yep it's a 7prcw
Getting some of the Cyclone Bomb up that-a-way? Looks cold n wet....
Luckily we got the outside of it. I heard the heavier part hit further up in Washington.
What was this facility before it was a shooting range?
No idea. It’s been a range since around 1960 so I’m guessing it was just land although there are some areas that used to be gravel pits too.
Well, it is winter !
What !!! Where is the cleaning regimen after each shot for the first 100 rounds as you 'break in' the new barrel. :)
😂
What’s the chrono?
It's the AndiScan A3 amzn.to/3ZqEsSf
Did I just watch a 14 min video to find out you don't break in your barrel?
He said it within the first minute…haha.
Good Barrel, Excellent Action. Good Smith. Just develop your load and your good to go. I've stopped break in barrels years ago. When my smith told me to stop wasting time and bullets on that process
You did indeed, along with the thrilling and such challenging aspects of F-Class. The only thing these guys do these days is pull a trigger. Can you imagine the stress? LOLOL
I skipped through. Never saw a barrel break in. Didn’t want to go back and listen to it all to see what you did.
But did he clean it before he sent the first bullet?
Exactly John! Barrel break in rituals are stupid and a waste of time. They obviously have no clue about metallurgical tolerances. SMH
Which chronograph is that?
It's the AndiScan A3
Have you abandoned the Garmin chrono for the AndiScan at this point?
What's the name of the range facility? Looks like a very impressive setup with the concrete baffle/barrier!
TCGC in Sherwood, OR
What about fire form brass ? New action , barrel…
Fireforming brass (if really necessary for your chamber) is a separate issue. Also, a number of competitive cartridges shoot great while fire forming both in PRS or F Class but worst case some people just take an old barrel and run all their brass through it so they don't burn out a good barrel.
Glad I didn’t need to watch all 15 minutes to find out you don’t break in barrels.
Hilarious
Eric Cortina doesn't break in his barrels.
I never have for jeez 60 years hunting in Utah.
300 WM or 3006 has been the normal old school rifle.
UA-cam nonsense if you ask me.
Also, your shooting discipline is very different from his. Most of the time i don't see hunter's trying to shoot under a quarter.
With that being said I agree with you
@Erik7prc i wish I could.
Why did I watch it? This guy uses equipment that I cannot afford and shoots group that I am unable to shoot. Why am I doing this to myself.
I empathise with your anguish; no wait, I feel seen😵💫
Damn if i could shoot at nite I would never be home! Love that stock. Does the RAD do much good? Is the Black Knight worth the extra $. Does yours have the new fire control with the weight system?
He is shooting with Black Knight XD with Generation 1 fire control to establish baseline. Next is using same equipment but with Generation 2 (weight system and different weight springs)
i dont do anything to my barrels - f class john
i dont change my oil - indy car driver
why waste your time with any attempts of procuring longevity of barrel life when you get them supplied for free ? me being of the non inductable due to my not having any legendary elbows to rub or super cool icons to take me under a wing, want to do whatever i can to get the most out of a new barrel . including standing on my head shooting with my brown eye as per recommended procedure, which i have done ... more than once . yes . it works
I also watch less of a channel when the click bait starts.