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Great demos like this are seldom seen nowadays but it is a must for hobbyist to know this old method. You can build a decent airgun following the procedure - many thanks "face off". Back in the 80's, we did it in a much harder way, using pin locks slightly off-center as we lack the taps for the thread. We have to find exact fits for the solid round bars, pipes, etc. and use files/sandpaper to form the parts. We use hand drills and bits as well. For major joints, we use brass brazing and minor joining using lead for the rest. We sure lack equipment back in the day. Thanks to this video, ready-made hardware parts made life easier. But I warn the DIY people in making this exact plan when handling high air pressure, especially above 2000 psi. Be sure you know and understand the allowable maximum pressure (pressure rating) of your metal fittings, parts and joints. Some well known brands of pcp air rifles exploded below its warranty. Be sure you know what you are doing before you are confident to reach 3500 psi.
Nice comment "Smartbro Canopy"
Thanks for the compliments. Videos like this are valuable, yet people should always be alert on other facts to be on the safe side.
@John Nelson he screwed each end through the tub into the brass . It will hold it.
@John Nelson ua-cam.com/video/SGMTEOcCyZw/v-deo.html please watch
@John Nelson ua-cam.com/video/1U7TRDFjnFM/v-deo.html and this one's cool
S=(π•D to power of 2)/4 ~ 3•9/4 = 6.75 cm2
3500 psi~200bar
Bar= kg/cm2
200bar=200kg/cm2
200•6.75=1350 kg
That's over a ton of force that is pushing those endcaps off. If it will fly off it will kill someone.
I don't think that those screws can whistand 350kg of shear force. It's really dangerous.
In the video, clearly the guy did not pump 200 bar, but the 80 bar balloon will definitely hold
He guy doesn't know what he's doing
Very dangerous!
@@Delluxe825 Thin stanless pipe and min screw can not supprt 80*7=560KG .80 Bar is very dangerrous , 20Ba maybe safe
yeah...... they should be welded on....
and the end caps should be heated after they are inserted into the tank before welding to ensure very good tank strength.. but goo design and concept just please mention in your discription the highest psi that this would be safe to use at. LOVE IT!!
Warning for viewers: it’s a bomb 3 times over.
1) 1mm wall thickness is far to little.
2) the end caps receive a huge load which is bound to shear off the pins securing them.
3) the threading was done wrong. Look up the required drill diameters, use them, and also use a drill press or lathe for good alignment, better roundness and cilindricity.
buat lah video mu macam mana yang betul, jangan pandai bercakap saja.
i think if we glue them and weld it will fix all those problems
@@Electricity_Never_Dies glue and weld? Glue doesn’t survive the heat of welding.
Thanks a lot for this information.
AWSOME!!! this is exactly what i needed to make a custom airtank in school!!
Oh my gosh are you serious? Youd be creating a bomb. Maybe you CAN take that into a school(?).
I don't think a 1mm wall is safe at 3500 psi. You might want to verify you're getting at least a 3 to 1 safety factor compared to burst pressure.
It is absolutely not safe. I fear that "face off" has not posted on his channel for a year because he had a face-off accident. This design is risky even for 350 psi.
Very unsafe. I've build one myself with 3mm pipe and still feeling nerveous everytime filling air on it, on 2500psi.
The thickness of 1MM is indeed very dangerous for high pressure, so this type of air chamber is only suitable for low pressure.
This guy makes a good tapped thread with an adjustable wrench when I break them all while using the proper handle and drill oil... Good show! 😊
Gorgeous ! Thank you.
Yeah, I don't see this holding a lot of pressure, best use hydrolic tubing and threading the ends. Always overshoot the pressure rating by using tubing that is rated much much higher.
Nice to see craftsmanship like this done with the proper tools. Excellent video and great teaching tool.
Video 🔥🔥 Create a series explaining every aspect of gun making and number it accordingly so that we can easily go through each step easily.
Da bayone..
@@faceoff2 ente comment kooduthal nannayi poyo sir??
Aaye nee paranjathu correct anu
Got your hpa hand pump! Great
Finally😊
Nice concept and end result.... but if this pipe is OD=32mm T=1mm (0.039") Its bursting pressure is only 1872psi (working pressure 1248psi)
So.. if you really but into thiskind pipe 3500psi, its miracle if its not blowing up very deathly!
Im working in this field, so Im NOT telling you bllsht :D
how you calculate. teach me
if your pipe not seamless 32mm OD ang 1mm T how mouch psi?
My thoughts exactly, plus the ends are only held by tiny screws as opposed to being threaded. 3500psi is way too much. Best case scenario is, the ends would shoot out onto your face. Worst case scenario, the pipe blows up along the seams (if it is not seamless), straight onto your face, hands and body.
MrAntza teach me plez..
@@amirazahari9366 Look up hoop stress and Barlows formula. Most folks building pcp's use a MINIMUM safety factor of 3x the maximum working pressure. I use and encourage you to use yield strength for all calculations rather than tensile strength.
Really dangerous!
You saved my time
Thank you
The basic "inspiration" and visualization of the parts is great. And for engineering, the "concept" or you might say the "idea" is half the battle...thinking of WHAT you need to build But the actual construction methods here leave some areas for improvement, it's little things that us folks who literally grew up using tools would see: notice that holes were drilled without a drill press...it is humanly impossible, if drilling into a tube or a rod-type piece or material, to get a perfectly plumb hole drilling by hand. You can get CLOSE, but not as plumb as a drill-press. Next: when tapping threads, backing the tap out, using a wrench causes the tap to 'wobble' on it's travel, and so ruins the perfectly circular hole into which the threads were cut...the hole becomes elongated, and the threads therefore become a little shorter (peak to trough) on one side than the other. ...if you're making a tank which is supposed to hold 3500lbs of air, could be a BIG problem.
There were many little things like this, but not worth going into detail, since this gentleman won't change his style. But anyone thinking to copy this item, try to employ better machining and fabricating techniques, for safety.
Согласен. Для подобных вещей есть более мелкие резьбы, но в данном случае даже пропаривание не поможет 👆
according to @MrAntza
1 year ago
Nice concept and end result.... but if this pipe is OD=32mm T=1mm (0.039") Its bursting pressure is only 1872psi (working pressure 1248psi)
So.. if you really but into thiskind pipe 3500psi, its miracle if its not blowing up very deathly!
I think the end caps will actually fail before the pipe does, from my own calculations the pipe will begin to fail around 1900psi but will actually rupture at closer to 3900psi, by that point the pipe has swelled up. Long before that happens the end caps will have shot out like bullets and turned this guys head into mush.
I can't find where he specifies what type and size of bolts he used but they sure as hell don't look thick enough to withstand anything close to 3500psi, if i had to guess i'd say they will eventually fail from fatigue at some point in which case it could be 1000psi or 2500psi, its a gamble when it will actually fail but judging by the fact that he hasn't uploaded in a year I'm not exactly hopeful.
I like your enthusiasm and creativity with only hand tools but wouldn't encourage people to copy this and fill to 3500psi because the hospitals are busy dealing with the virus, I don't think they have the time to put you back together at the moment.
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Awesome👍👍👍
this is tutorial how to making a pressure bomb....
inspiring stuff, Thank You for Posting. May i know more of quick coupler construction, is it home made or bought out
Great idea how did you make the grooves for the o-rings? I'm looking forward to the rest.
I'm a little bit worried about your safety
I am late to the game on this video and don't want to add to the pile-on about the safety issues. The demo and methods of what you can do without an expensive bunch of equipment is always to be commended, and I admire that. Making do with what you have is a lost art, so kudos to face off for his creativity.
But with that said, and not knowing what specific stainless steel alloy and temper he is using, I am skeptical of the safety at 3,500 psi. All stainless steels are not equivalent and some of them are surprisingly weak compared to the more common carbon steels and to most alloy steels. If we assume that this is type 316 stainless, I calculate that the tube, and the end-bolting method are good for about 1,500 psi, with a safety margin of about 2.6 to 1 for the yield strength of the tube (for bursting), but only a safety factor of about 1.7 to 1 for the ends of the tube distorting in the areas of the 4 drilled holes.
I have done a lot of air tube tests to failure on my channel and there are many different failure modes, not just the tube blowing up. If you are lucky, an o-ring will leak or pop first, and some airgun designs are actually made with excessive o-ring clearances such that an o-ring will leak before a catastrophic failure occurs, if the tube is inadvertently filled above its safe maximum.
For this design to be safe at 3,500 psi, with a minimum safety factor of 2.3 to 1, I would suggest a 2mm wall thickness of the 316 stainless tube of 32mm O.D., and also using 6 screws instead of 4. That is based on calculations for 5 different failure modes, and backed up by destructive testing that I have performed to validate several of the generic failure modes. Please be safe, and if you are in doubt, don't do it until you are sure about the safety.
THIS…. o doubt anyone has attempted this bc we’d have a lot of dead hobbyists… this is incredibly dangerous… I’m not gonna go so far as say irresponsible bc there maybe a language and cultural difference that is preventing clear communication
Why the air is not coming out when you pump to fill the tank (pump intake fittings) if you use quick connector only,is there one way valve in that part?
I have used Quick Head Connection Check Valve One Way.Thats why air wouldnt come out.
Good job brother ... Nice to know you I'm from indonesia ... Thx
Mas di 0:57 bahan apa yang di pake?
Mas valve pemicunya apa namanya ya belinya dimana?
Very nice..👍👍👍
Thank you
What happened to the full auto pcp that you were making
Amazing👍
Nice sir
Sangat keren dan juga menginspirasi,sukses selalu kawan👍👍👍
you did a very good job using hand tools
Majority of Brass fittings are only rated for 125 working psi.... I’m sure this exploded and that’s why he doesn’t show his face.
Rename this video into: How to make a pipe bomb with compressed air.
Nice...Both caps receive the same pressure and force...why one wit four and the other with two screws???, thanks.
Good job
气室设计的不错。就两堵头应该设计个贯通的安全插销。高压的时候，你堵头上那两个小螺丝我看着太恐怖了。针阀那再加个简单的设计，实现简单的恒压。
打高压肯定会炸,1MM厚度,3颗细螺钉承受不了成吨的剪切力,至于它会那个地方先炸,我认为都有可能.
Oh Nice👍🏻👍🏻
thank you
If you want to know how pipe bombs are made, you found it.
@ Mustafa Alper. Exactly! The guy made an extremely dangerous pipe bombe and keeps it to his face while shooting. It could explode any moment since 1 mm wallthickness is insufficient and/or end cap can blow out.
great job & video, but what are these round aluminum blocks with the cutout for the o-rings? do they have a name & where can you get them?
I was trying to ask that question too!
Pneumatic IED, i saw one with flying shrapnel...
Ник хорошо перекликается с отсутствием защитного кожуха на болгарке..
Dangerous stuff if higher pressure.
is it a joker d-32mm pipe? what is the safe pressure for the tank?
If not done what are the ideas that can reach that 4000psi pressure
Nice
Thank you
When will you make a tutorial on the full auto gun?
Love your work and keep it up!!!!!!
Soon ..Thank you
Just wondering, what country do you live in???
@@RSAnimations thanks anyways 😂😂😂
@@faceoff2 brother can u please tell those parts names..
Ok ok verry good
Mantap....
You are awesome
I appreciate your vision and mission...it was awesome ..thanks
Legal vc foi único a fazer vídeo bom explicando tudo
Hi face off I like ur videos alot in the middle of a build of my own but was wondering if u have tried using an fire extinguisher for ur air valve I've seen a bunch of videos but there's a huge language barrier in all of them lol thanks
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Not sure end caps held in by 4 screws is safe, as well as a tube with 1mm thick wall.
I agree ithink better is weld also
its dangerous..can blow up for 3000psi
oh boi, pls be spring steel
@@warhero219 %##
I recommend just buying an aluminum paintball tank and using that. Pressure tested for much higher than what they are guaranteed for, and you can add a regulator much easier.
Not everyone can just buy stuff
@@gingerssuck Never said everyone could. I said it was a recommendation not necessary, and I gave reasons for the recommendation.
big fan bro
Thanks bro
Your the man bro👍
Thanks bro
Safety margin? Working pressure? I wouldn't gome within a football field of this pipe bomb!
Good video,but with that 1mm wall thickness tube and m4 screws not operable above 800psi....burst pressure around 1500psi
after very long time...
I add all your videos in a playlist called "Videos that will get removed by UA-cam" :) Great content man
Wow 1ml 3500psi
channel named after OP blew his ...
Face off !! Definitely you gonna get your face off after this!3500 psi seriously or you added extra zero mistakenly😐🙏😅👍other videos in this channel extremely good😍👍
Super
how the ragulator that release the air call?
Tnx for return form a long pride
Where do u buye the air valve from mate and whats it called
I made that valve.Please watch my homemade valve videos.
@@faceoff2 dear genius work
Unique and clear bavo friend
*Hello, my friend, good jobs, great idea.*
Thank u my friend.
Can you give me the name of the parts for this vid
Compressed gas is no joke! Do the math before playing with it. The load on each endcap (30mm) @ 3500 psi (241 bar) are 1700 kg or 3747 pounds !
How long will those screws take thed load ???
... just saying ...
The thicknes of the tube I´m not smart enough to calculate
It's dangerous
1 M4 screw can hold 482kg assuming is made of poor steel 400N/mm2
@@adriandumitrascu4292 Check your calculations. M4 thread does not have a 4mm load-bearing cross section due to the fact of being threaded. You calculate the cross section of the root diameter. And 400 N/mm2 sounds like the UTS not the YS. What a fastener will "hold" is not the UTS, that is already into plastic failure or "necking" (starting at they YS) which reduces the cross-section remaining. And are we talking tensile load or shear? Accounting for the stress concentrations of the threads? Shear strength can be approximated by 0.6 x tensile strength. So low grade steel M4's will likely fail at 120 kg each. Even the highest grade screws would fail before 3000 psi, so the safe working rating should be nowhere near 3000 psi.
@@Rakemaan 400N/mm is for class 4.6 and 4.8. and yes they fail at 1.3kN (aprox 130kgforce) of force according to EN1993-1-8 safety factor is 1.25
now just in case someone try this dangerous experiment it should take in account that you need a hydraulic pipe(not a junkyard or hardware store nonsenses) with a nominal pressure above what you are going to put in (for ex for this experiment you need a 35x4mm hydraulic pipe) and endcaps need to be secured at least with 4x M6 grade 8.8 screw at least 11mm away from edge. better pick a pipe according to catalog and calculate screws according to EN1993-1-8 code (better then nothing :D )
Sir ano tawag diyan sa bilog nilagyan Oring?
Your waiting for a disaster.to happen! Its like holding a bomb waiting to blow with shrapnels along with it.. trust me i know..
Soon he'll upload a video on how he was injured when that airtank exploded
Can you make a pressure regulator for 150psi?
Sir gun me jo lagaya hai use kiya Air bolte hai
Good 👍
What if im using galvanis pipe 2mm thicknes. Can it hold 3500 psi
Sir where can I buy that BSP thread I can't see it on online shop
Ok cảm ơn kênh nhé chia sẻ
Make a video for barrel and fit barrel washer.
Caution!! Your 1 mm pipe wall thickness is not sufficient!! Assuming a yield strength of 235 N/mm for SS 316 and a safety factor of 1,5 for seamless pipe you need 2 mm wallthickness!!
Your 1 mm thick airtank can blow Up in your face.
The end cap could blow Out too.
Thanks for the information.
32 mm OD x 2 mm wall thickness is only rated for 2300 psi. The thinnest wall thickness at the 32 mm OD would be safe to use is 4 mm which would have working pressure of approx 3900 psi
www.swagelok.com/downloads/webcatalogs/EN/MS-01-107.PDF
It's not just the wall thickness to consider it's the retainers. They will shear at much lower than the claimed pressure.
Bro Am from Nepal. I watch your video a lot. I have made 3 air gun before. Your idea are good. I know how hard to get an idea sir ji. Now I am making another air gun which will hold as much pressure as DIY and scarp metals can do it. Can we share idia in Facebook or other platform. I recently got an idia for a high psi air tank but not really sure. I am planing to use motorbike shock outer chamber for the pipe. It has really good thickness.comments are open for every one. Hoi good are those pipe . They have serious thickness. And we can get it easily from motorbike repair shop. Help me.
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is you really fill 3000psi in that pipe or less?
talking about exploding.I have purchased a brand new fire powder cylinder.1 kilo.I know they take a lot of preasure.but not taking any chances.firstly.will give it a resin coating inside.thenI will lay up about 5 layers of fiberglass over the tank.and finsh it with a coat of gel.and polish it up realy smooth.So with the tank and about 3/8 thick solid fiberglass.I think it should do.will test it out a few times in my mates tyre cage for lorrys.Heres hoping.this will be my.first project.thanks to guys on here.even trying out something different by replaceing the spring systm with an ellecric air valve that can be timed for how long or short an interval of air release.at the age of 68.hope I havent left it to late.lol.👍🤬
Tube seamleas or welded
He pumped a few times, the pressure is 5 bar, max.
pwede ba gawing airtank ang 11/4 na stainless tube
Wow, I'd never have the balls to build a 3k pressure vessel. It's silly seeing as I play with 40 or 50k pressure reloading and shooting but I guess I just feel more comfortable. Haha
Are you serious 3500psi cilinder that,,,?try use manometer ,,i'm not believe it because you use only 1 oring seal for 1 tube,,that's not strong may be for 3500psi,,
But, ,you very creative ,,because,,i think it long time ago,,but ,i not have lathe machine,,I don't thinking waterpipe shocket can be modified,,,thank you very much,,,!you already opened my idea..succes for you always.
I just wanna ask what kind of hammer pen is this? or what is the name
3500 psi seems risky for that contraption
It's a pipe bomb...!!
good jobb,,
Thank you.
Dudo que con esos 16 bombasos lo hayas llenado a 3500 psi además como vas a mover tal cantidad de presion
1.No tiene regulador
2.los sellos que utilizas se pegan a cierta precion
3.el martillo que utilizas no es tan potente
Is it very safe ? Have one of them exploded or one of the end caps blown off i realy want to make one but idk if its dangerous
It's extremely dangerous. It will blow your head off
WARNING...! This is UNSAFE for 1mm stainless steel with OD 32mm to handle 3500 psi. It's working pressure is only 2000 psi with safety factor 1.3. It's thickness supposed to be 2 mm at least. And it must be seamless pipe.
Salam bos... Apa aman klau tabung guna screw tanpa drat... 🙏
Really Top.👍👌
Plz mack a vedio on how to make the pcp valb with full detals i have trabul with that
Wait for Next video.
Your accent is really strong good sir..it even reflected on your writing
Bir dolumla kac atis yapiliyor
Дрыснет, если не сама труба, то мега герметичное соединение на о ринге.
Скорее, болты срежутся.
не зря же он face off - наверное лицо в лоскуты после попытки накачать до рабочего давления.
Не дай Божа,зато пуля пробьёт броню.
@@Massaraksh7 Что то он напутал с цифрами 3500psi = 238 атмосфер (это бред ) 20 атмосфер и то под вопросом там)))
@@user-yo3cu1yi2e Почему? Для пневматики 200-300 атмосфер - это стандарт.
Sir any video about the set up for the pins the one you attached for the tank