I promise I had this exact breakthrough a few months ago! Went from 400 to 450 consistently! I find that rotating with the hips first (to get into a solid power pocket, with the disc lined up to the *edge* of the left side of my chest rather than the center), followed by pushing the elbow straight toward the target and then letting the elbow hinge open has been a game changer. To make it repeatable Injust think “hips; elbow; swing” before I throw. Great explanation!
Welcome Back Danny, I've watched all of your videos so far. Been playing now for 5 years, but am still learning from your "beginner" tips. Thank you for doing these, you are a great teacher.
Thanks Danny for helping me two years ago to throw further. It was because of your videos (and a few others) that I was able to break bad habits early on and blow past my goal of throwing 400'!
This is very important content Danny. About time some of the big names started talking about some of these obvious mechanics the pros clearly understand but haven’t been able to articulate.
Great video! I wanna bring up something i think a lot of beginners don't learn from ANY form videos right now on YT. No form video talks about the importance of hip placement. Pushing back the butt is always skipped when talking about bent knees and leaning forward. But it's THE MOST important part of that entire setup. It creates concistancy and power. I had to figure this out myself as most disc throwers are self taught and don't really think about their form unless they work with teaching others. It's the entire power pocket for your lower body.
Danny, you are my favorite. So happy to have your videos going again. The most informational but really easy to understand as well. DD is lucky to have you. Thank you for your work!
Damn, the good old trusty Danny. I wanted to try out a guide made by a Finnish disc golfer for 40€. It's all quality and high end teaching which I understood more than 10 important tips for my understanding, but from this I instantly understood how to throw with power. All props to that Finnish counterpart, I think its pretty worth it BUT this stuff right here is FREE! Unbelievable stuff here for the growth of the sport man. Keep it up!
Hey Danny. I just want to say this video gave me a better understanding of the intended motion. I threw the farthest I’ve ever thrown and I be been playing for a year now. I know what to work on now. Thanks so much brother!
So glad you’re back in full effect, Danny. You’re content delivery is on point and super informative. Keep up the good work and much continued success!
Danny, great video explaining this concept and technique...I realized something like this a few years ago except I visualized it more of the throw and arm being like a "trebuchet"...a trebuchet is the OTHER kind of catapult. Instead of work wooden sticks bolted together I put three softballs in a cloth like shopping bag, had my beginner friend hold the loops of the bag with three fingers, the weight of the 3 softballs of course hanging down below and then slowly rocking the weighed bag back and forth like a pendulum, then integrating starting to "snap" the weight as it reached the bottom, popping it back up the other side, then as the weight came back downwards, snapping it again very gently, back up the other way....your mind and body could really begin to "locate" where the weight was in the movement of the arc...then...close your eyes and like Luke Skywalker, using the force and and that darkened visor, just envisioning it and doing it with his eyes closed....now we KNOW where the weight is without seeing it..much closet to a real "rhbh" or even "Lhbh" throw.... 2nd Part...now do the SAME thing with a disc driver, except just use 1 or 2 fingers under the edge of the rim to let it hang, and again letting it kind of rock back and forth..can't really "snap" it at the bottom as we did the bag BUT..Luke feeling the weight of the bag with the softballs we discussed how their is a REAL WEIGHT at the BOTTOM of the disc and if you close your eyes again and do the exercise your mind begins to locate and feel it and you can gently/slowly do this without the disc fallingnof your finger(s),. We are under the "delusion" that the disc is "evenly weighted"!! But ironically it is NOT..when your "throwing" the disc, where ever you are holding the disc the weight or heavy part is directly OPPOSITE from where you are holding it!!! THIS is how you POP the weight around getting your wooden stick/kinematic chain/loose arm/trebuchet effect!!!! BOOM!!
Killer video man! Way to take something so simple, but relate it with something so technical and make it very understandable! Just added a follower here! Keep up the great videos!
When I started playing disc golf, the only advice me and my friends could get about throwing better was: "It's like starting a lawnmower!" Your videos are so great, and I pick up tips from them all the time, even as somebody who has been hurling plastic for 20 years.
Thanks for a great video! The slow motion clips from above were really good at illustrating the flow of the disc from reach back to release and gave me some ideas for improvements that I need to try next time I'm playing.
Danny, grateful for all your video explanations/tutorials. Learned a ton from them. I've improved on most of my mechanics but one thing I still can't manage for the life of me is the "power pocket". My arm just doesn't want to pull the disc that close to my chest. I think it's causing rounding. Any tips on how to train myself to pull the disc closer?
One of the worst things I've seen in our sport is the self-taught pros teaching people how to throw their way which they have been lucky enough to not have a catastrophic injury yet. As a formally trained thrower and coach, I love seeing your content. You're spot on in your mechanics breakdowns. I've shown your content to my former mentor and USA Olympic track and field throwing coach and he too agrees that your lessons and technique are the most effective and safest way to throw! Kudos!
Ive been playing DG for about 6 months now. I was muscling through standstill forehand throwing about 300 feet on average...after some form tweaks i can run up forehand about 350ish. My xstep backhand has gone from about 100ft to about 150 175. Mechannically speaking i know i can get another 100 feet at least. This video helped massively
@@Ddkghhgg I have a history of shoulder injuries which is why I was so forehand focused at the start. A lot less stressful than a BH. But its getting there
@@peerlessvillain letting your shoulder collapse (aka "rounding" as he does when he shows the example of what not to do) is what can give you big shoulder pain from throwing backhand. If your arm squeezes against the chest as it lags behind your shoulder is not going to be happy
Thanks Danny. That is by far the best explanation I've seen. I've for sure been muscling my throws for the past two years since I've gotten back into disc golf. I've been able to throw upwards of 370', but I know I'm capable of more if I get the mechanics down. I don't have the greatest arm speed. I'm for sure suffer from "slow-twitch" muscles, which is why I was a distant runner and not s sprinter in high school, but am still hopeful. At this point I'm trying to retool my throw, which is ultra-frustrating because in the meantime I am adding a lot of strokes to my rounds as I figure it all out. It's hard to swallow my pride and take those high scores against my buddies in pursuit of long-term gains, but I'm trying. What I'm actually struggling with the most is translating to my short game. It's my understanding that I'm to use the same mechanic for shorter drives and upshots, but just with less power. Is that a hard and fast rule or is there an argument for just "arming" my upshots as long as it doesn't creep its way back into my longer throw mechanics?
@@DannyLindahl The mechanics can/should be the same for both, mostly. If you remove the shoulder turn and only reach your arm out and in to create the motion. Watch McBeth upshots, Lizottes short aceruns ect... Shoulders goes from sideways to foreward, never back to give the same throw/release with less power.
Missed ya Danny! Great video! I was thinking of that wood thing awhile back..but never followed up! Awesome representation of our arms when we throw correctly!
Just had hernia repair and can’t get out there for several weeks. All I have are these videos and my mind to practice throwing. Hoping the mind practice will help my game.
Read about a Vietnam P.O.W. who kept his marbles during 3 years of torture and malnutrition by imagining he was playing a guitar. Apparently he was able to greatly improve his skills! Hope you heal up fully in short time!
Great video Danny! In the towel metaphor, does the hand propelling the towel correspond to the hips? If so, are we to understand that the throwing motion should be powered by the hips which bring along the kinematic chain of the arm?
I used to skate board. It took me a whole year to be able to learn how to do an ollie. Once it clicked, it clicked. I havent skateboarded for 10 years but can still ollie. Im guessing this is similar to that. Once it clicks, you’ll never forget.
I always visualized throwing backhand as a catapult throwing a huge boulder. Main weight is my body, the pole between the pole and rope that holds the boulder is my elbow, the rope is my wrist and the boulder is my disc
Not a bad idea! A trebuchet will always be the superior siege engine though. I think the part that hangs down to hold the payload is a good visual for the elbow. Also they're useful for throwing 90kg boulders over 300m!
I have read recently about the Swedish technique some and in pretty sure the power comes from shoulder rotation powered by your back. Right shoulder comes down and left shoulder pushing back the right comes Up and left forward with a straight arm tho its Still in power pocket it just comes to pocket earlier. Watch feldberg or Schultz slowmo
Danny, your super bright overhead lighting has shattered my confidence in your videos. It is time for you to take another break, watch multiple UA-cam videos on proper outdoor lighting techniques, and then make some videos to show us what you’ve learned. Just kidding. It’s great to see you doing videos again. I guess the incident at the factory didn’t cause any permanent damage(deciding on discs is tough). Keep up the good work, and keep having fun. One more thing: when you towel snapped your throw, your disc was a little nose down. A little bit more level, and you could probably add four or five inches on that toss.
are you now recommend the wide rail? . so its out -in-out loose and whippy? or back to --6:00- straight to power pocket -straight to 12:00? I dont think the wood model could do 6-12.
This is great content and well explained. I currently average 325’ft - 360’ft but feel I now better understand the throwing mechanics because of this great descriptive video. I’m now going to go practice this and see if I get more distance.
Hey Ryan, dont forget about using this concept/throwing technique and using a disc you can turn over that will slooowwllly start to straighten out and then finish back straight"ish"...I find I got the best results starting off throwing it kind of high just left of center like a big sky anyhyzer shot and it swept across the sky from left to right and then came back at the end. FOLLOW THRU on your rotating shoulders, hips and bringing your leg all the way around is a MUST, there will be ALOT less wear and tear on your body. WARNING: Alot of people will develop a very bad pain in the upper forearm just below the elbow that tendinitis injury that sidelines so many disc golfers. That area of your arm needs to be worked on and rehabbed before and after throwing...do not overdue this throwing style right off the bat.
Just recently become quite obvious to me my greatest limitation is my reluctance to use the power grip. Playing in tight woods for so long, I have been able to get by with fan grips and modified fan grips but most of the time if I put full power behind the disc it ends up slipping out of my hand and not going anywhere. I can reach 300 with a modified fan grip but not much more. I recently forced myself to try a power grip and while I had absolutely no control over the disc it did seem like the potential was there. Not really relevant to the video but figured I’d share
keep at it, i had the exact same issue with my grip. i thought i had "snap" before, but now that ive trained the power grip for a couple of months it's a whole different game.
Hey Danny, nice to see you making content again.
I promise I had this exact breakthrough a few months ago! Went from 400 to 450 consistently! I find that rotating with the hips first (to get into a solid power pocket, with the disc lined up to the *edge* of the left side of my chest rather than the center), followed by pushing the elbow straight toward the target and then letting the elbow hinge open has been a game changer. To make it repeatable Injust think “hips; elbow; swing” before I throw. Great explanation!
Welcome Back Danny, I've watched all of your videos so far. Been playing now for 5 years, but am still learning from your "beginner" tips. Thank you for doing these, you are a great teacher.
Same here! Playing for 4 years, competitively for 1, and still learning. Rec til death 😂
Thanks for this video. Because of you, I can now snap a towel 450 feet!
😂
as a disc golfer and also game developer, the kinematic chain demonstration really resonates. well said.
Thanks Danny for helping me two years ago to throw further. It was because of your videos (and a few others) that I was able to break bad habits early on and blow past my goal of throwing 400'!
Dude, you've been gone so long! You also can always rehash old videos and explain them in a new or better way.
Glad to see you back. Hope you stay.
This is very important content Danny. About time some of the big names started talking about some of these obvious mechanics the pros clearly understand but haven’t been able to articulate.
Throwing downhill, tailwinds, hyperbole, and playing against children are some of my strategies...
I'd love to see a deadpan video by Danny on these.
"playing against kids" suddenly I'm getting Billy Madison vibes.
I love your style and humor
Great video brother!
Great video! I wanna bring up something i think a lot of beginners don't learn from ANY form videos right now on YT.
No form video talks about the importance of hip placement.
Pushing back the butt is always skipped when talking about bent knees and leaning forward. But it's THE MOST important part of that entire setup.
It creates concistancy and power. I had to figure this out myself as most disc throwers are self taught and don't really think about their form unless they work with teaching others.
It's the entire power pocket for your lower body.
Please keep making content Danny as I’ve ran out after watching all of your others lol.
Danny, you are my favorite. So happy to have your videos going again. The most informational but really easy to understand as well. DD is lucky to have you. Thank you for your work!
HE'S BACK!
I love how smooth you are explaining stuff, thanks for the video!
Damn, the good old trusty Danny. I wanted to try out a guide made by a Finnish disc golfer for 40€. It's all quality and high end teaching which I understood more than 10 important tips for my understanding, but from this I instantly understood how to throw with power. All props to that Finnish counterpart, I think its pretty worth it BUT this stuff right here is FREE!
Unbelievable stuff here for the growth of the sport man. Keep it up!
I prefer Seabass22 and the "reciprocating dingle arm"
Glad to have you back Danny!
I like it, gives more explanation of the drill.
Hey Danny. I just want to say this video gave me a better understanding of the intended motion. I threw the farthest I’ve ever thrown and I be been playing for a year now. I know what to work on now. Thanks so much brother!
So glad you’re back in full effect, Danny. You’re content delivery is on point and super informative. Keep up the good work and much continued success!
Danny, great video explaining this concept and technique...I realized something like this a few years ago except I visualized it more of the throw and arm being like a "trebuchet"...a trebuchet is the OTHER kind of catapult. Instead of work wooden sticks bolted together I put three softballs in a cloth like shopping bag, had my beginner friend hold the loops of the bag with three fingers, the weight of the 3 softballs of course hanging down below and then slowly rocking the weighed bag back and forth like a pendulum, then integrating starting to "snap" the weight as it reached the bottom, popping it back up the other side, then as the weight came back downwards, snapping it again very gently, back up the other way....your mind and body could really begin to "locate" where the weight was in the movement of the arc...then...close your eyes and like Luke Skywalker, using the force and and that darkened visor, just envisioning it and doing it with his eyes closed....now we KNOW where the weight is without seeing it..much closet to a real "rhbh" or even "Lhbh" throw.... 2nd Part...now do the SAME thing with a disc driver, except just use 1 or 2 fingers under the edge of the rim to let it hang, and again letting it kind of rock back and forth..can't really "snap" it at the bottom as we did the bag BUT..Luke feeling the weight of the bag with the softballs we discussed how their is a REAL WEIGHT at the BOTTOM of the disc and if you close your eyes again and do the exercise your mind begins to locate and feel it and you can gently/slowly do this without the disc fallingnof your finger(s),. We are under the "delusion" that the disc is "evenly weighted"!! But ironically it is NOT..when your "throwing" the disc, where ever you are holding the disc the weight or heavy part is directly OPPOSITE from where you are holding it!!! THIS is how you POP the weight around getting your wooden stick/kinematic chain/loose arm/trebuchet effect!!!! BOOM!!
Dude or Dude not...
Good to see you back Danny!
Killer video man! Way to take something so simple, but relate it with something so technical and make it very understandable! Just added a follower here! Keep up the great videos!
Yay, more Danny videos!
Welcome back Danny. Glad you making new content, love your videos.
glad to see you posting videos again!
It's about time big flick. Iv missed ur tutorials. Now we need a side arm video on your form
Danny and the DD team you guys are making some great videos. Funny, informative and enjoyable. Keep it up.
Liked it 6 seconds in. Danny always is good content! I'm glad you're back.
When I started playing disc golf, the only advice me and my friends could get about throwing better was: "It's like starting a lawnmower!" Your videos are so great, and I pick up tips from them all the time, even as somebody who has been hurling plastic for 20 years.
Might be the best video I've seen on this so far.
The kinematic chain demonstration is superb. With such little energy that end piece is really whipping.
Was just thinking it had been a while since you dropped a video and here you are!
Best DiscGolf related content!
Thank you Danny for a great explanation. And nice to see you making some content again! Greetings from a one year old rookie Finnish disc golfer. :D
One of the best form vids I’ve seen. Thanks for the effort man 🤙🏼
Good stuff! Reciprocating Dingle Arm!
Yep, first thought when I saw it.
Danny back killing it
Danny is BACK!!!
Glad to see you back!
Watching this video literally just unlocked my backhand 🙏🏻 too long I wasn’t bending all my hinges. Thank you for the great demonstration 🤙🏻
Great video as always Danny.
Thanks for a great video! The slow motion clips from above were really good at illustrating the flow of the disc from reach back to release and gave me some ideas for improvements that I need to try next time I'm playing.
Love to see some disc golf content
“The release point is where it releases.” Brilliant
The bolt tightening leading to more friction just makes sense. It fits anatomically too, the muscles tensing would stiff off the joints!
thanks for all the great advice over the years Dan! this video was particularly very helpful
Nice job articulating the motion. This will help a lot of us if we just absorb/apply it.
This is a great visual .. nice job Danny!!
Excellent video. Thanks!
Danny, grateful for all your video explanations/tutorials. Learned a ton from them. I've improved on most of my mechanics but one thing I still can't manage for the life of me is the "power pocket". My arm just doesn't want to pull the disc that close to my chest. I think it's causing rounding. Any tips on how to train myself to pull the disc closer?
One of the worst things I've seen in our sport is the self-taught pros teaching people how to throw their way which they have been lucky enough to not have a catastrophic injury yet. As a formally trained thrower and coach, I love seeing your content. You're spot on in your mechanics breakdowns. I've shown your content to my former mentor and USA Olympic track and field throwing coach and he too agrees that your lessons and technique are the most effective and safest way to throw! Kudos!
It's more important to slow down and be smooth, this demo really hammered home that concept for me. Can't way to try that out, thank you!
Yayy danny is back
Snapping the disc after the towel was hilarious.
Yeah Danny. Anything you teach is good content to watch. What about breaking down slow motion replays of all the pro players??
Great Danny. I think you can get even more out of this teaching gadget. It did help me understand a little better.
Ive been playing DG for about 6 months now. I was muscling through standstill forehand throwing about 300 feet on average...after some form tweaks i can run up forehand about 350ish. My xstep backhand has gone from about 100ft to about 150 175. Mechannically speaking i know i can get another 100 feet at least.
This video helped massively
@@Ddkghhgg I have a history of shoulder injuries which is why I was so forehand focused at the start. A lot less stressful than a BH. But its getting there
@@peerlessvillain letting your shoulder collapse (aka "rounding" as he does when he shows the example of what not to do) is what can give you big shoulder pain from throwing backhand. If your arm squeezes against the chest as it lags behind your shoulder is not going to be happy
Thanks Danny. That is by far the best explanation I've seen. I've for sure been muscling my throws for the past two years since I've gotten back into disc golf. I've been able to throw upwards of 370', but I know I'm capable of more if I get the mechanics down. I don't have the greatest arm speed. I'm for sure suffer from "slow-twitch" muscles, which is why I was a distant runner and not s sprinter in high school, but am still hopeful.
At this point I'm trying to retool my throw, which is ultra-frustrating because in the meantime I am adding a lot of strokes to my rounds as I figure it all out. It's hard to swallow my pride and take those high scores against my buddies in pursuit of long-term gains, but I'm trying.
What I'm actually struggling with the most is translating to my short game. It's my understanding that I'm to use the same mechanic for shorter drives and upshots, but just with less power. Is that a hard and fast rule or is there an argument for just "arming" my upshots as long as it doesn't creep its way back into my longer throw mechanics?
Next week's video should help with upshots! Also shortening your reachback can help maintain the same form just with less power.
@@DannyLindahl The mechanics can/should be the same for both, mostly. If you remove the shoulder turn and only reach your arm out and in to create the motion. Watch McBeth upshots, Lizottes short aceruns ect... Shoulders goes from sideways to foreward, never back to give the same throw/release with less power.
James Conrad was distance runner. All shots are basically the same mechanics putting to driving, just varying amount of backswing and grip pressure.
Stunning information for a novice like myself!!!
I love Dannys authentcy can't get enough
Missed you, Danny!
Yay! Welcome back
Your videos are always a big help! Do you give personal lessons?
Missed ya Danny! Great video! I was thinking of that wood thing awhile back..but never followed up! Awesome representation of our arms when we throw correctly!
Love you Danny, thanks for the great content!!!
Good job, and thank you.
Just had hernia repair and can’t get out there for several weeks. All I have are these videos and my mind to practice throwing.
Hoping the mind practice will help my game.
Read about a Vietnam P.O.W. who kept his marbles during 3 years of torture and malnutrition by imagining he was playing a guitar. Apparently he was able to greatly improve his skills!
Hope you heal up fully in short time!
2:46 omg I'm dying laughing 😂🤣🤣 Welcome back brother! You were missed!
🤔
Nice vid. Great tips.
Great video Danny!! Heading out to the field soon to put it into practice!👍
Great work! :) thank you!
Thanks, gonna have to work on straightening my arm on the reachback.
Great video. Locking nuts
Great video Danny! In the towel metaphor, does the hand propelling the towel correspond to the hips? If so, are we to understand that the throwing motion should be powered by the hips which bring along the kinematic chain of the arm?
I've never analyzed this like D is doing. Man I can't wait to get to the field. Everybody in the office thinks I have a tick or something....
Nice video. When you get a chance, would you be willing to demystify the rest of disc golf? Keep up the good work.
Thank you for making this great video
Never ever ever seen this kid play anywhere but on a commercial. Next
Great video, use a nylock or hex jam nut on your wood contraption to keep them from loosening.
Good call. I had two nuts on there I was going to screw together so they'd stay together, but I only had one wrench so I just left it.
Love hearing about the biodynamics!!
I used to skate board. It took me a whole year to be able to learn how to do an ollie. Once it clicked, it clicked. I havent skateboarded for 10 years but can still ollie. Im guessing this is similar to that. Once it clicks, you’ll never forget.
Look up "The Backwards Bicycle" by smarter everyday, fascinating.
Missed u big D!
I always visualized throwing backhand as a catapult throwing a huge boulder. Main weight is my body, the pole between the pole and rope that holds the boulder is my elbow, the rope is my wrist and the boulder is my disc
Not a bad idea! A trebuchet will always be the superior siege engine though. I think the part that hangs down to hold the payload is a good visual for the elbow. Also they're useful for throwing 90kg boulders over 300m!
Hey Danny, How does the second point (not bending your arm enough) apply to swedish technique which doesn't rely as much on the arms bending. Thanks!
I have read recently about the Swedish technique some and in pretty sure the power comes from shoulder rotation powered by your back. Right shoulder comes down and left shoulder pushing back the right comes Up and left forward with a straight arm tho its Still in power pocket it just comes to pocket earlier. Watch feldberg or Schultz slowmo
Danny, your super bright overhead lighting has shattered my confidence in your videos. It is time for you to take another break, watch multiple UA-cam videos on proper outdoor lighting techniques, and then make some videos to show us what you’ve learned. Just kidding. It’s great to see you doing videos again. I guess the incident at the factory didn’t cause any permanent damage(deciding on discs is tough). Keep up the good work, and keep having fun.
One more thing: when you towel snapped your throw, your disc was a little nose down. A little bit more level, and you could probably add four or five inches on that toss.
Liked for use of power tools in a disc golf video 😎
One big key is getting your hips more involved . Getting hip rotation and it’s timing down and not turning your front foot too soon when releasing
Thx, danny
Dude… I really like this video.
are you now recommend the wide rail? . so its out -in-out loose and whippy? or back to --6:00- straight to power pocket -straight to 12:00? I dont think the wood model could do 6-12.
try moving the disc in a U-shape where you imagine the bottom of the U is facing your chest and the U being parallel to the ground.
This is great content and well explained. I currently average 325’ft - 360’ft but feel I now better understand the throwing mechanics because of this great descriptive video.
I’m now going to go practice this and see if I get more distance.
Hey Ryan, dont forget about using this concept/throwing technique and using a disc you can turn over that will slooowwllly start to straighten out and then finish back straight"ish"...I find I got the best results starting off throwing it kind of high just left of center like a big sky anyhyzer shot and it swept across the sky from left to right and then came back at the end. FOLLOW THRU on your rotating shoulders, hips and bringing your leg all the way around is a MUST, there will be ALOT less wear and tear on your body. WARNING: Alot of people will develop a very bad pain in the upper forearm just below the elbow that tendinitis injury that sidelines so many disc golfers. That area of your arm needs to be worked on and rehabbed before and after throwing...do not overdue this throwing style right off the bat.
The kid's back!
God I love Danny so much
So good
That knife in your back pocket has a sweet clip! What knife is it?????
“Far is smooth. Smooth is far. “ - Simon Lizotte
god this helped me so much
Damn good video. Subscribed.
Just recently become quite obvious to me my greatest limitation is my reluctance to use the power grip. Playing in tight woods for so long, I have been able to get by with fan grips and modified fan grips but most of the time if I put full power behind the disc it ends up slipping out of my hand and not going anywhere. I can reach 300 with a modified fan grip but not much more. I recently forced myself to try a power grip and while I had absolutely no control over the disc it did seem like the potential was there. Not really relevant to the video but figured I’d share
keep at it, i had the exact same issue with my grip. i thought i had "snap" before, but now that ive trained the power grip for a couple of months it's a whole different game.