Quincy DOGGED Monica Out! | Love & Basketball Breakdown Part 5
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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I agree
What you’re saying about Quincy
But remember from his perspective she was his safe haven when they were growing up as friends especially when he parents were arguing in the middle of the night. He knew she was there for him. So in college he was expecting the same. He is an only child and been selfish all his life.
He was acting out talking about “ I have meeting with this guy” trying to be like his dad but realizing perfect image of his father was tainted..
Monica almost because her mother with the Quincy situation not standing up for herself when Quincy was treating her poorly.
So many layers to this situation
*Became not because
Yes, there are so many layers to this situation. I don't understand why he couldn't just wait until the following night. She had already spent time with him and she would see him the following day. Like, what was she supposed to do? How was that so unforgivable? It's really just that he was hurt and didn't know how to cope.
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@@HeitCheri facts. He was being a Brat 😂. But he Deflee didn't have good examples in his parents when it came to emotional processing.. His Momma Suppressed stuff until she Juss exploded or fell apart.. and His Daddy was constantly front'N .. that boy needed therapy somn' serious 😭
Bruh yall making it seem like a 18/19 year old understands their emotions. He just been heart broken by his hero, that ish is brutal even for adults to cope with. I think saying he was being bratish may be a little much because would it be bratish for Monica if it was the other way around?
I don't like the 'let's be friends ' thing after a breakup. For me it's manipulative. I am all about finality.I can wish the Woman well,and love them from a distance. The 'oh that's my friend' game is a slippery slope..I can understand if two people co own a business,or have kids together..but besides that..nah .
I agree. But I also believe everyone isn't out to do that manipulation thing after a break up.
Some people are mature enough and truly want to see people grow and go on from them.
Friends. Yeahhhhh, I can't buy into the idea of Monica being a pick-me, as she was never male-centered. To the contrary, she was resentful to her mother for seemingly doing so.
I think Monica was still finding her sea legs and has never had any other focus other than "ball is life", so having to navigate so many different things, then Quincy turning around and snatch their nascent romance away from her was jarring. She didn't have enough time to think through his nonsense and say fck that. She just wanted to cling to what was familiar to her as she navigated these new experiences.
She was most definitely NOT a pick me IMO. 😊
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When Quincy got all cold on Monica when she had to leave for curfew, he reverted back to himself as a child getting beat at basketball by 'a girl' and pushing her down or when he dumped her when she didn't wanna ride on his bike.
When Q started dogging Monica with Carrie, I think since he decided to drop out of school, He started trying to hurt Monica to have a reason to break up so he could leave for the NBA as a single man so he had nobody to disappoint when he inevitably starts succumbing to the lifestyle of a pro athlete (sleeping around) like his dad disappointed his mom.
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I think in our youth, without a true practice in emotional intelligence, most of us probably were the Monica or Quincy.
If I was in Monica's shoes, I might have been devastated too at that age, trying to salvage everything.
With maturity now, I would immediately retreat from someone throwing unnecessary darts at me like that due to immaturity with handling adversity. If you are not conflict resolution based with healthy non-attacking verbiage...I'm out!!!
Thanks for another great video of insight👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you so much and I think your assessment is spot on. Emotional intelligence is something that needs development. These were young adults with not a lot of practice and life experience.
Friends! Monica wasn't really a pick-me. She was just a fool in love.
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First of all I had to SMASH that like button soon as I seen this in my feed.
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I think you could survive this type of heartbreak, it depends on the person. If I were in this situation, he would have to make the effort for reconciliation. The relationship seems one-sided. It seems like he was only there for her when he was on top. Now, the roles are reversed and he dumps her. I would sit my pretty behind down and enjoy living my life, and if he wants to get back together...fine, but it's his turn to make it up to her.
Not to spoil the ending, but I don't think he never did.
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Well, she ignored him when he tried to call her multiple and he gave up.
@@HeitCheri I totally forgot about that😱
@@angelsmith-ti4ih Yeah, I had forgotten about that too until watching for this breakdown. She totally shut him out after he dumped her and went pro.
@@HeitCheri I see that as her trying to cope with the breakup.
I still love the movie but I definitely have more complex feelings about it. Also when Q tells Monica she would never have to ask him to choose I interpret it as it wouldn't be a choice for him because she is more important, so there is no choice to make. She is the choice. Watching the movie then and now we mainly see things from Monica's point of view and it always felt like basketball was her life. I don't think the game was as important to Q.
I love this break-break-break-break down!
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I would definitely have to let him bake. He didnt just act selfishly, he went out his way to hurt her and completely switched up on her. And eventually Id realize he was going through stuff and that would give me a reason to forgive him. Idk what it would take for him to win me over to be with him again though, time and an apology definitely
I do not think anything Quincy did was out of charecter, it was actually on point and the extreme ends of his charecter. From the opening scene, we had been shown that Quincy does not take failure or hardship well, he is the kind of person to have his world fall apart and want everyone else's to burn along with him that is why I find it perplexing when people say they should have tried to really hard to preserve their relationship.
That woman has a life scar on her face because she dared to be better than Quincy when they were younger.
Now she has fought so hard to get where she was opposed to Quincy, who always had a clear shot, and he has failed to understand how much that means to Monica, too. I genuinely understand the need to insert the mindset to actually work and preserve relationships, but longevity should not be the reason in this case. If anything, they should go separate way, experience people and life outside of the bqsketball and the few things they know to feel complete, and hope they both grow from this experience. Quincy needs some self growth and Monica needs to meet other people and get some friends.
Quincy's life difficulty level was most definitely set on easy. While parents breaking up is a huge thing, he would have crumbled under the pressure of far less. He just didn't have the skill set to cope well with adversity. Rehab from his injury probably changed him significantly.
I went through something similar at this age and even though I cried for months we remained friends for awhile. At one point we talked about getting back together but I just couldn't trust him the same. I encouraged him to start seeing someone he was on the fence about and they've been married like 10 years or so now. Our friendship ended once I encouraged him to move on. I think if someone shows you they can be trusted again things can work out but if not its ok to just call that experience whatever it meant to you and move forward.
FRIENDS! I agree that Quincy dogged out Monica. It was learned behavior from his father. Him & Monica could have worked it out in the future as friends.
He acting like a little-🤣🤣🤣 Heit 😂😂😂
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OMG!!! I am watching Love and Basketball now, and I just had a crazy thought and immediately came to your channel. I think Omar Epp's movies are alternate realities of each other. He's Quincy in Love and Basketball and Juice. Tyra Banks plays his love interests in L&B and Higher Learning. He's a college athlete in L&B, Higher Learning and the Program and Sanaa just so happens to be the adult version of his high school girlfriend on the Wood!!!! Mind Blown. If there is any validity to this, I know you 2 are the best at explaining it. I Thank You for your videos and channel.
This is an interesting observation that we touched on in some recent discussions... I think it was when we were talking about Higher Learning maybe? The thing is, it can be a slippery slope when you try to connect characters in different movies simply because they are the same actor. This is such an interesting exercise in exploring the underlying themes that might tie them all together. The most important thing is evidence from the films themselves that might support this possibility. For instance, we have a video on our other channel @axiomamnesia exploring whether Fudge from Higher Learning could be Doughboy from Boyz N The Hood reimagined.
I love talking about these films and I'm so glad that you're thinking about them too! ❤️
It was unhealthy because he wanted her to be in the background of his foreground, despite her being equally talented in the same sport as him. Basically.
Quincy was trying to be like his daddy.
I’m Still Trying To Figure Out Where He Dog Her Out So Bad Did Q Throw Temper Tantrum And Act Like Jerk Yes Dog Her Out No
I was thinking the same thing, then we got into this discussion and I had to rethink my position. Let me know what you think. 😊
Not justifying how Q treated Monica, but it can be devastating when what you had on a pedastal falls... it's a death of sorts.
Yes, any time a core belief (in this case his belief in the false image of his father) is exposed to be untrue, that's devastating. Some people never get over it.
Friends 😁.
Love you 2 Guys & Pt.1-4. Str8 Dope 🔥🔥.
I Felt Bad For Q about his Dad's Dishonesty About his Infidelity With His Marriage.
Q Took His Every Word How A Man Should Conduct Himself and His Family Since A Child.
And Yes he Was Wrong For Linking Up With Monica Calhoun (Ebony From Player's Club) or (Mia From The Best Man).
Love Y'all Channel and Content Keep it Up.
P.S. Ms. Alfre Woodard Played Sanaa Lathan's Mother 3 Times Btw:
Love and Basketball 🏀
Something New
Tyler Perry's The Family That Prays Together
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Friends. I think a much less intimate friendly relationship would be possible down the line
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Monica learned some of that servility from her Mom.
And to trap for Zeke was marrying and starting a family w a Woman who seemed like she aint have any homemaker ability.What did Q's Mom do? When Zeke retired from the Clippers,did she get a job to help the family?That doesn't justify Zeke's cheating..but it is a trap when a spouse is just around not contributing.
would I be giving Q a second chance...no. Because he's gonna revert to his perception of his father every time. He's gonna act like a butt hole whenever something doesn't go his way. Nope. We can be friends and leave old stuff in the past.
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Qunicy was trash
He was gaslighting her and making excuses
He can get a second chance as a friend but im watching you if I was Monica
I've never been this early ❤
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Can’t be friends w somebody who disrespects me not the type of company I’d keep so he’d be cut off romantically and as a friend
Ooooo 8 mins after upload
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The Thumbnail is hilarious 😂
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Yall lowkey bugging. When Monica was not winning, she was a real sore loser. Y’all making it seem that when things didn’t go her way, she took the higher moral ground. Meanwhile she threw a temper tantrum in high school, showed her ass in college talking trash to the upper classmen and then went full force temper tantrum when Quincy and Tyra was about to get married. Popping up talmbout let’s play for your heart. And at that point she was a grown ass person not knowing how to handle her emotions.
Uhhh... In this video, we're not talking about the entire film. We are specifically talking about what happened up until this point of the film.
@@HeitCheri ohhh my bad! My bad! I always looked at this movie as both of them being the bad guy in it but I got a little too emotional I guess. Imma carry on and wait for the next clip. Y’all are doing a great job
The season would be around March/April when Quincy declared for the draft because that's when the season is normally over after March madness because the draft is in June so that's the reason he was talking to agents
There are a lot of men college basketball players that have to play in the Europe League. It’s really a very small amount of guys that make it and gets drafted in the NBA.
I think thee writers were trynna show Quincy being reduced to his childhood state as a result of his Daddy Trauma shihh. Cuz he was Deflee controlling, Hypersensitive lik Asshole when he was a Kid 😂
Oh he was reduced to spiraling outta control for sure. 😆 Hey Queen! 😊
@@HeitCheri Haha ! Hellloooooooo!!!!! 🤗👑🤗
Man this movie is so triggering now!😂😂😂 like Monica should have left his ass long ago!😂😂
But they weren't "together" for most of the film. 😂
@@HeitCheri 😂😂😂 so true!🤣🤣 what tf was this shit supposed to give!?😂😂😂 loved the video! Happy I found you alls channel!
Welcome and we're glad you're here! ☺️
Friends!
Good job. I love it!!
Thank you!
q showed us EXACTLY who he was in that car ride and the dance im sorry lol (1) playing monica talking about spalding (2) took the girl who asked him SIMPLY cause she already ask a tactic to avoid any rejection (3) leaving said date on the dance floor to be in monica face TWICE (4) not correcting said date for talking ish (5) then toxically staring at monica knowing she is hella inexperienced...just trying to break her down smh Q wasnt the worst man and clearly needed some maturing but Q been Q the ENTIRE movie lol (I know yall sick of seeing me 🤣🤣🤣)
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The mom actually mentioned them dating in the movie. I think it was that scene where they fought in the kitchen. “You had sex with the boy” is what she said. Or something along those lines
In that scene she says she's not going to tell Monica to go and sleep with him in order to win him back.
@@HeitCheri so I think that implies one of the parents knew!!
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Friends!!
Isn’t Mugsy Bouges like 5’7”
He's about 5'3 and Spud Webb is about 5'6. Both are very short for the NBA.
So was carri not really his cousin? 😅🤣
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Im always early late today but better then never
You're here and that's all that matters!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Friends. Can we do Set it Off soon? I'd love to hear the takes on that
Did you see the fan theory video that we just dropped yesterday? We have a couple of vids on that movie, but not a full breakdown yet. A link to that video is in the community tab on this channel. 😊
@@HeitCheri Thank you!!! 🥺🤎 y'all are the realest channel. Can't wait to watch you grow to 1mil!
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I dont think his Dawg'N was unforgivable. But he never even really ask for Forgiveness fr.. he gave her a lil lukewarm apology & explanation . & it didnt seem like it was really for her. It seems more like it was moreso for him to Make An Excuse for the Hurt her knows He caused. He didnt truly take e accountability or act like he really gaf about Her experience of him & the breakdown of their Rship. & I think what bothers ppl is the way the writers went about putting them back together.. he didnt really have to work to get her back .. even juss the friendship.. and He didn't put forth much effort to either. Or to even really keep in touch.
He mentions that he tried to call her while she was overseas a few times.. But my dude why yeen write her no letters😂.. Thee Dawg'N phase set up a Journey, if you will, of Monica kinda chasing him and doin the most to get him back and she wasnt even wrong in. The first place.. He was.. and even when they had their One on One game at the end, he still felt a need to Son her as if she hadnt been thru enough 🤡😭..
Thats what Makes The Movie 'Love Story' shihh come off Toxic.. and what Makes ppl look at Quincy as a Toxic person.. cuz it's totally understandable why she had an attachment to him. They had Alot of history. But it don't seem like He Valued their bond or history in the same way.. It was often her putting up way more effort to keep the shihh afloat and resalvage it
Okay but here's the thing. He did try to contact her and presumably apologize. Monica ignored his multiple calls. That is mentioned when they hook back up in the hospital after his injury.
@@HeitCheri I peep that. And that's an attempt indeed.. I Juss don't feel he tried hard enough. Like of course she not answering, you been playing with her emotions & being cold AF with her for really No reason.. & I don't think he matched her Energy when it came to redeeming the bond., He Gave up Too Easy.. and I feel like him Being in thee wrong should've been extra fuel to Go harder.. write heartfelt letters, send her a gift w/ Remorseful & Loving Note attached.. Send her some pictures.. Somn.. it's like He was keen on applying pressure whenever he wanted to Hurt her and Make Her Feel Bad.. But not when it came to making things right with her and showing any real defining growth
I like hearing yall's perspectives in these type of movies
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