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You earned a new subscriber! Straight to the point and very clear. I'm well knowledgeable with computer hardware. But display hardware is not as strong a subject base for me and this really helped! Keep making content like this and you will sky rocket!
@@CataclysmComputers Yea me too, thanks for answering clearly and quickly .... But what if I have a 4k monitor that I am using in 1440p and I use DRS/DL to render at some super high resolution that is like 4 times 1440p and THEN play at that 5120x2880 resolution on the 4k monitor --- will that offset the issues you are bringing up?
Wow, even though English isn't my best foreign language, I understood it the first time. Slowly spoken and well explained and no b.s. background noise/music. Many thanks, you helped me a lot...
Back in late summer 2020, I got an Asus VP28UQG 4k monitor paired with a Geforce RTX 2070. My plan with this setup was to watch movies in 4k; and game in 2k at 60 hz. Early on, 2k didn't look the best with the way the display scaled in Windows, but during the 4th quarter of 2021, Nvidia released drivers that improved scaling. With GPU Scaling on present Nvidia drivers, 1440p now looks quite good on this monitor.
@Central Based Agency In Nvidia Control Panel, go to Display -> Adjust desktop size and position. Go to section 2. In the Scaling tab, go to "Perform scaling on". Selection "GPU" in the pulldown list. Make sure scaling mode is set on Aspect ratio.
That's exactly what I'm planning to do. I'm gonna get a 4K monitor for movies but also want to play games at 1080p. Good to know the downscale in nvdia driver is improved now
Great content. I have to say, just set up my new 4k monitor. My current pc can't run much at 4k, but that will change with my new build. However, the picture quality scaled down to 2k is noticeably better than when it is scaled down to 1080p
A lot of things happened in the gpu world especially for nvidia with down- and upscaling in 2023. Although everything he says is entirely correct, Dlss 3.5 (And other driver updates) changes the game for this exact scaling problem. Note: i’m an amd fan myself, but i’ve to give credit where credit is due
@lauritsgodtliebsen What can I use to play my Xbox X at 4k 120 fps and also be able to use it more my laptop on 2k 120+ FPS? Can I just buy a 4k monitor and set it? I also heard there's a way to set up the Xbox for 1440p 120 FPS but that's a whole other sht show.
Weird things is we can run 720p on 1080p on most TV or monitor (supported by default). If we divide the results of 1920x1080 with 1280x720 will give us 2.25 too. I know 720p on 1080p will looks blurry.
@@CataclysmComputers So true, back then in HD era, why they made 720p as a standard HD broadcast res, since there was almost no TV / Monitor has 720p native res? CMIIW. It's a bit odd to me. Should be 768p as standard, IMO. Even "HD READY' TVs back then have native res of 768p.
@@carlosnobrega8308 It's almost half of the total pixels of 1080p but yeah, it is the multiplier per axis what matters when it comes to scaling. In that case 768p is 0.71x of 1080p not half.
Ha this is just what I needed to see. I've got this weird issue where when I set cod to 1440p on my 4k monitor it LOOKS like a massive frame drop while still reading at high frames on the counter. This could explain it!
It looks pretty bad. On 1080p you have less pixels and you can see that picture is not that sharp but if you run a game on 4K monitor using 1080p resolution, you will not see pixels, you will just get blurry image, much much worse than playing 1080p game on 1080p monitor. If it's hard to understand, just set any game to 900p or 720p on your 1080p and see how it looks. It's similar.
If you have AMD graphics. Don't worry and just buy a 4k monitor. Then go to AMD drivers and turn on FSR there. Both 1440p and 1080p will look good and you will still get FPS almost like on a 2K/1080 monitor. Very simple
FINALLY I understand why 2k resolution looks off on my 4k monitor.. So it's essentially being scaled down to 2.25k, instead of a true 2k. Welp.. live and learn! lol.. Thanks for the very helpful video!! :)
Would a 5160 x 1440 for ultrawide monitor be similar to 4K ? Would you prefer a 3840x2160 or can the ultrawide be just as crispy especially that it is OLED display ?
I just bought a 4K monitor because I got a 4090! Love my 1440p monitor! Can’t let it go so gonna use that at the side for UA-cam and discord and so on. The bottleneck on a cpu for the 4090 is too much in 1440p so you pretty much have to go 4K with the 4090. Gonna try it 1440p sometimes on my 4K monitor but if it looks bad I’ll stick to 4K
@@CataclysmComputers yeah it does look bad, luckily I have two monitors connected my native 2k and 4K so could just switch between the two if I wanted :)
Great video. Straight on point. Clear explanation. I have a question: isn't everything much smaller at 4k much and how do you reconcile this? Do you change the Scaling and layout in Windows OS?
Oh wowwww, you explained that perfectly, never in my life I would think that someone would give me an answer for this, in fact a clear answer as well, thank you you solved it for me
Well this is an amazing explanation. Thank you. I’ve been using an LG C2 42” since oled for productivity (just a work laptop), gaming on a Series X and PS5, and watching 4K movies. I want to build a PC after “window shopping” the hobby for 5-6 years now. am Just referencing the last few seconds of your video: if i want a lightweight build for casual older games (lightly modded Skyrim, small indie games, etc)…i could just aim for a 1080p type build and use it on my 4K LG without worrying too much?
Thank you man I had never though of this. actually right now I'm using a 49" TV as PC monitor (after my 1440p monitor died). my TV can support 1080p at 120hz refresh rate but only 60hz for 2160p. what I expected to see was working on 120hz or 100hz at 1440p but then I realized that it only give me 60hz and maybe what you said is the reason. now I'm using it at 4k/60hz and run my games in windowed mod with 1440p resolution.
I'm hoping that my 4080 super, with nvidia's upscaling, will display my 1080P movies on a 1440p monitor and look reasonably well. Gaming won't be a problem - they will look badass i'm sure.
Very nice video. This might be an obvious question but what about the other way around. Like if you bought a 1440p monitor and tried to play games on 4k. Would it even display 4k or would it just stay the exact same?
@@chandanipatel9938 Hey! Check out this video I made of the RTX 3070 Ti with only an AMD Ryzen 5 5600X hitting 220+ FPS in COD Vanguard in 1440p, and 180ish FPS in 4K: ua-cam.com/video/NuAnMJmlg8U/v-deo.html I would get a 1440p 165Hz monitor for your PC 😄
Super helpful, thanks! To clarify, if I buy a 4k monitor and run 1080p it’ll work just fine? I want to buy a 4k monitor for programming but I want a 1080p for gaming. Also, if display through windows at 4k but through a game at 1080p would that work the same?
you are right but i have a 27 inch 4k monitor what i do is when i game on it i first change the resolution of my screen to 1440p and then i game on 1440p resolution and since its an 27 inch monitor 1440p doesnt look bad on it
It depends on the games, but you'd be able to sit around 150 FPS in COD Warzone in 4K with high(ish) graphics settings, I would prefer 1440p personally for the higher FPS 😁 Do you already have an RX 6800?
well if the answers to division was 1 4 9 instead of 1 2.25 and 4, we can run all resolutions on the monitor with more resolution which could be possible with any monitors with resolution higher than 4k
I use my 4k 60hz native tv to game on with my rog ally i cap the fps to 60 and make the output 1080 and it works wonderfully now wanna go for a newer native 120hz screen so i can use my mini itx build on it for some high refreshrate 4k gaming
This is pretty useful, I recently got a RX 6800 Sapphire Nitro paired with a 13600K running DDR5, next thing I'm going to buy is the monitor and I'm indecisive between a Gigabyte M27Q-X 1440P 240 HZ or a M28U 4K 144hz, mainly because of the image clarity of the 4K resolution but I'm not sure if my gpu can keep single player games at higher than 60 fps. Would you recommend downscalling some games like Cyberpunk (as an example) to 1080P with AMD FSR or just get the 1440P monitor, both monitors are at the same price range and I don't really play competitive FPS like CSGO or Valorant, mostly League of Legends and Fortnite and single player titles. Thanks in advance.
there are really not that many games on the market that you cant play 60fps 4k without upscaling with a 6800. And all the newer games will have the new upscaling methods that makes lower res not that bad. You could play CP2077 easy on 1440 with that (without raytracing of course), or just use FSR on the 4k.
I want a bigger monitor, lik 32-40 inches, but i don't want to see pixels, but i will not game much on 4k ever, maybe some games, Factorio seems fun, but shooters etc, not so much. 1440p is fine, i just want a higher refresh rate then. But yeah, going 1440p on 4K, i am expecting it to get less clean and blurry, and i don't want that at all. All in i would even rather go for mid 30 inches 1440p with high refresh rate than a bigger 4K with slower refresh rate that will not run 1440p as nice, and 4k resolution will be far too heavy for the games i will do or mostly on the hardware i will run it on, since i am not going to buy a ridiculous setup, i just want a big screen. 1080p is out of the question since that means visible pixels eveywhere. So most likely i'll go mid 30 inches 1440p but at least 144Hz or slightly higher refresh rate. Will probably cost a LOT less too.
Hey mate! So what you're going to find is that 32" is the max you'll find for the mainstream 16:9 resolution monitors 34" is a 21:9, so vertically it'll actually be shorter than a 32", but it will be much wider For what you want to do, just get a 32" 1440p 165Hz monitor and you're all good. 4K is great but expect to spend more than double what a decent 1440p monitor costs, and at 32" I personally don't care much about the extra clarity of 4K
@@CataclysmComputers and you’d have to spend more for certain games to run well, or run lower res and have a slight blurring. So yeah, looks like “32 16:9 it will be, eventually. On 27” now, so not too bad I guess.
That clearly explains it, thanks! I have a question about my laptop with 2880 x 1800 native resolution. I get 'playable' (competitive) experience if I set the games (in-setting) to run at 1080p (16:9) Have you encountered changing the laptop's *active signal mode*? I cannot override said settings even if I set my *display resolution* to 1920x1080 -- it stays at 2880 x 1800. Will I get even better gaming experience if my native resolution will be changed to 16:9 1920x1080? If so, how do I change 'active signal mode'? I could not find any guide on how to change it. Native resolution seems to be changed accordingly, however that one won't. Thank you.
Change to 1920x1200 because that's 16:10, like your native resolution 😁 Sounds like you're on a MacBook anyway, in which case you need third party apps to change your actual resolution Play in fullscreen and choose 1920x1200 and you'll get better FPS than 2880x1800
@@CataclysmComputers Insightful! I guess I should just leave my native resolution to 2880 x 1800 because even if I change it to 1920 x 1200 -- active signal mode stays 2880 x 1800. I will now play games by setting their resolution to 1920 x 1200. Do you have any tips for OBS Video Settings? Not sure how to rescale this
Does this apply for consoles too? I am runnin' a series s with a 4k hdr samsung tv. Often, I find hat the pictures are only enjoyable when I sit atleast 8 feet away from the screen. Should I got get a 1080p gaming monitor for my series S or should I change my console picture settings to 1080p even if it is still hooked to a 4k TV.
Are we talking about setting Windows to 1440 on a 4K monitor? Back in 2017 I tried to upgrade from a 24” 1080p to a 27” 4K. I played Witcher 3 and the 1080p looked HORRIBLE. It was blurry with terrible black levels. I changed the in-game settings to 4K and it looked amazing but the fps was like 20. I changed the game to 1440p and it looked almost as good as the 4K with a much better fps. I ended up returning the 4k monitor for a 1440p with gsync, but I miss the smoothness that 4K pixel density, even with the game set to 1440p. Windows and my GPU were all set to 4K, I only changed the resolution in the game.
I have a RTX 3070 and currently have a 1080p144 24” monitor. I play story mode games like GTA V, RDR2, Hitman, so I prefer quality over FPS. I wanted to get a 4K144 28” for my birthday but I am really afraid of wanting to play a game on 1440 or 1080 and have problems. 😢
But as he say in his video, you will get worse 1440p performance on a 4k monitor than a 2k monitor，so I suggest you get a 1440p144hz 27”monitor，you will get the best experience if you don't want to upgrade your graphic card.
Shouldnt it in theory be possible to render games at exactly half the resolution of 4k ? I know there are no monitors with that resolution, but for setting a resolution in game it shouldn‘t matter, right ?
Or buy the Neo g7 32 inch , and have native 4k , use the ultrawide game mode for ultrawide 1440p and create a custom resolution in nvidia control panel for 1080p . All on one monitor :)
Very nice video, but I was wondering, there are a lot of different resolutions the games can perform on, is there a resolution that has exacly 2 times less pixels than 4k?
Even if there would, it would not help you, because the point of this is basically that 1 GPU output pixel is shown by using 4 pixels on 4K screen. If you would have resolution that had 2 times less pixels than 4K it would still mean it would have to split the pixels so in this regard video maybe could be more specific - it does not matter if after doing the dividing you get even number, what really matters is that the answer has to be 4. If it is then there is no pixel splitting, if no - bad news and picture will be blurry. And the next level of going lower to a resolution that would not split pixels would be 960x540 - 518 400 pixels - now 16 (so 4x4) times less pixels on screen than 4K.
Hey man thanks for that. So if I buy a 4k monitor and downscale it to 1080p and play games like that, will the FPS be equivalent to a native 1080p monitor?
Yep - it'll be rendering at 1080p, so it'll use the same amount of performance as a 1080p monitor. Just be aware that most monitors run slower when they're not at their native resolution; a 4K monitor running 1080p will be slower than a native 1080p monitor.
Interesting explanations. So increasing a game's resolution to 1440p on a 1080p screen would be like zooming in on a 1440p monitor about 1.8 times. So it would appear a bit blurrier than on an actual 1440p monitor? Is this correct? B'cos I do that on my laptop with Vita3k. I'm not sure if I observe any changes btw 1080p & 1440p resolutions.
I’m getting a 4090/7950x3D for gaming and work, I want to get a 4k monitor for work and movies and streaming sports and single player games but would like the option to convert down to 1080p only when I want to play a multiplayer game competitively and get high frames or if a new game releases and doesn’t run at a high enough FPS for my liking, is that a good idea? Will there still be the same latency after converting? Also do you have a recommendation for the type of monitor I’m looking for? Great at 4k display, low latency, highly competitive, great visuals, 240hz
If you have a 4090 you can just game in 4K 🙂 The 4090 can get higher FPS than 4K monitors can even display, so you'll be fine, that's the simple answer 😄 The Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 is the only 4K 240Hz monitor right now; but my advice is to just get a 4K 144Hz / 165Hz monitor and you're done 😄
Came across your channel. Buying a ps5 . Was gonna get a lgc2 but some dude is telling me to get a 1440p monitor, he said it will look better because the game rendering res will downscall .
The main reason is companies dont want to make it possible. Why sell you one monitor that can play at any resolution when they can sell you 3 monitors. Thats the real reason this doesnt exist.
This was a great video but I have a question. I have a 4k 60hz monitor and want to enable 4k but there is no option for anything other than 1920x1080. I'm not sure if it has to do with my graphics card which is an Nvidia GT 610 or my version of windows which is windows 10 home, or if it's my processor which is a AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor - 3.50 GHz with a 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor. I want to be able to run 4k on a gaming pc I will soon buy that has an i7 12700f and a RTX 3070. Could you perhaps tell me if it's my monitor or something else? Thank you.
GT 610 can't do 4k，because it's too old to do so. You just need a new graphics card like the one you mentioned or even some cheaper cards like 960or970 can do 4k
@@ailin0603 yeah, found that out after I posted the comment. I don’t know if my 3070 came overclocked or what, it was pushing 700 fps on rocket league 4k and everything maxed
Some games don't need 150+ FPS, The Witcher 3 is still cool at 60-80 FPS at high settings for example 😄 If you run Unreal 5 games at native 4K with 60 - 90 FPS that's cool, plus new graphics cards will be able to handle Unreal 5 at high FPS anyway, just as new cards were released to handle UE4 at high resolution 😄
some new 4k gaming monitors actually give you the options to switch to 2k or FHD per OSD. it obviously also shrinks the screen. so on a 32 inch it can simulate a 27 or 24 inch display with different resolutions. works only great on oled though as the black borders can be a bit distracting.
Im just gonna get 32 or 34 inch 4k monitory for non competative games/ movies, and my 280hz 1440p for competative games , and just the smoothness in general, even with the new 4k 240hz monitors downscaling is not the best ?
@Cataclysm Computers please I really need your help on this subject, I have a 4k laptop and I want to use a 2k external monitor and I tried it but the quality was bad, (my laptop is an oled gigabyte aero 15 xD can't disable optimus) 'please how can I get a native image quality knowing that this laptop has a mini display port ? will this make the image worse or i'll get a native 2k from a laptop ?
i stream at 1080p i leave my prisim live studio witch i use for multi streaming i no longer use obs studio because prisim live also puts the chats boxes together . but i game on 1440p on my main monitors . is that ok too ? i set up my prisim live studio too 1080p the requirements for twitch and youtube on twitch if i do 1440p no one can see it
I have a 4k monitor that I got for my ps5 since it HDMI 2.1, I am upgrading my PC and getting a 3060. Which Ill be gaming in 1080p. Will that be okay to play 1080p resolution on a 4k monitor?
Hey man I’m looking to maybe get the msi gp66 3070ti. Would like to play over watch halo and story games like Witcher 3 , star field when released etc. the msi do this with a 4K monitor like the lg gn950 for example? Or would it be best to just get 1440 p? I think on a review I seen it can get to 120hz on a 4K monitor?
Hey James, no, don't get a 4K 120Hz monitor for any laptop - unfortunately the 3070 Ti laptop version is nothing like the desktop version, it won't be similar. 3070 Ti laptops are fine on 2K though, just avoid 4K, it's the quickest way of making your new laptop feel old 😄
@@CataclysmComputers hey I just seen this for some reason. Thanks for getting back to me. Why do you think content creators who review laptops are saying you can use the laptops to output on a 4K display like a PlayStation 5 or series x? Wouldn’t a 3070ti be able to keep up with a PlayStation 5? I thought it would? I need a new laptop for my music and was thinking to get all in one but maybe better to just get a MacBook Air and a ps5 n tv/monitor? I dunno
@@jamesforte5379 sorry for the late reply but laptops have lower power versions of graphics cards. So a laptop 3070ti has Been made smaller and less power so that it could work within a laptop
Just a bit confused cause....most of my games should work well at 1440p,but in some heavy games like Assassin creed valhala or rdr2,my gpu might not be able to hanlde at 1440p so....in that case.... 💔🤣
Thanks for this bro, im choosing between 2k and 4k for gaming, mostly single player games that have nice graphics and some occasional competitive battle Royale games, but I don't know if I better wait and make money for the high resolution 4k or go with the 2k in a short period of time asap, at the end I will end up going with the two, 2k for competitive and 4k for single player classic games... the thing is that I don't know which one I should buy first 😭
@@CataclysmComputers Im on consoles for now 😅, exactly an xbox series X, so I want to take full advantage of the 4k resolution of the series X, but I have to wait to buy a good, decent 4k monitor for it, suddenly I want to do the translation to PC, maybe in a year or two (it is really expensive) and grab a 2060-3060 graphic card... I don't know if I should start now playing in a 2k monitor or wait and go first with the 4k, guess Im gonna have to do it that way, but what you think?
I initially wanted to buy a 27” 2k monitor for my ps5 and use with a intel nuc 11 enthusiast which runs a 2060 card. Should get ok performance at 1440p with adequate frames (60 I’m hoping). But more demanding tithes I figured scaling back to 1080 to get a jump in frames might be ok. I’m a little concerned how this will look if I do. Will DLSS assist? Can’t make up my mind which way to go. Or maybe just stick to buying a 1080 but I guess it’s defeating the purpose of having a ps5 to a degree.
So i can buy 4k big monitor to watch movies in 4k and play games in full hd and this will be fine , but when i try to play games in 2k games will be crap correct?
Yep! But if you're gaming it just won't run very well in 4K at all, the minimum graphics card for 60+ FPS in most games at 4K would be an Nvidia RTX 2060 Super / RTX 3060, below that you're going to struggle on some AAA games. If you want to play Valorant, CSGO, Minecraft etc then the RTX 3060 will actually get you well over 100 FPS easy, but something like Read Dead 2 in 4K just isn't running at even 60 FPS on those graphics cards. In short, it completely depends what you're using the PC for, if it's just browsing then most computers, even with integrated graphics, will run 4K on UA-cam etc completely fine - it's when you're gaming that you need to consider a better graphics card 😄
I want to buy 16inch qhd laptop , so if i want to watch or play 1080 content on it , it does look bad? In 16 inch screen is it noticable or not? Would you rather to buy fhd or qhd laptop?
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Loved the example with the clear calculation. I instantly knew what is going on when you showed 4K devided by 1080P equals 4. Thank you.
never thought someone could actually answer my question this clearly :O Ty sir subbed instantly
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Same here !!! Thank you bro !!!
I did the exact same thing
You earned a new subscriber! Straight to the point and very clear. I'm well knowledgeable with computer hardware. But display hardware is not as strong a subject base for me and this really helped! Keep making content like this and you will sky rocket!
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@@CataclysmComputers Yea me too, thanks for answering clearly and quickly .... But what if I have a 4k monitor that I am using in 1440p and I use DRS/DL to render at some super high resolution that is like 4 times 1440p and THEN play at that 5120x2880 resolution on the 4k monitor --- will that offset the issues you are bringing up?
Good thing is that most Games today come with FSR or/and DLSS and let you render a 1440p and just upscale to 4k without big performance loss.
Wow, even though English isn't my best foreign language, I understood it the first time. Slowly spoken and well explained and no b.s. background noise/music. Many thanks, you helped me a lot...
Back in late summer 2020, I got an Asus VP28UQG 4k monitor paired with a Geforce RTX 2070. My plan with this setup was to watch movies in 4k; and game in 2k at 60 hz. Early on, 2k didn't look the best with the way the display scaled in Windows, but during the 4th quarter of 2021, Nvidia released drivers that improved scaling. With GPU Scaling on present Nvidia drivers, 1440p now looks quite good on this monitor.
@Central Based Agency In Nvidia Control Panel, go to Display -> Adjust desktop size and position. Go to section 2. In the Scaling tab, go to "Perform scaling on". Selection "GPU" in the pulldown list. Make sure scaling mode is set on Aspect ratio.
@@robbycoker84 tried it for 2k to 1080p , still looks blurry
That's exactly what I'm planning to do. I'm gonna get a 4K monitor for movies but also want to play games at 1080p. Good to know the downscale in nvdia driver is improved now
My laptop at 2k 165hrtz actually looks graphically better than games on 4k 60 fps.
Great content. I have to say, just set up my new 4k monitor. My current pc can't run much at 4k, but that will change with my new build. However, the picture quality scaled down to 2k is noticeably better than when it is scaled down to 1080p
A lot of things happened in the gpu world especially for nvidia with down- and upscaling in 2023.
Although everything he says is entirely correct, Dlss 3.5
(And other driver updates) changes the game for this exact scaling problem.
Note: i’m an amd fan myself, but i’ve to give credit where credit is due
@lauritsgodtliebsen
What can I use to play my Xbox X at 4k 120 fps and also be able to use it more my laptop on 2k 120+ FPS? Can I just buy a 4k monitor and set it? I also heard there's a way to set up the Xbox for 1440p 120 FPS but that's a whole other sht show.
Weird things is we can run 720p on 1080p on most TV or monitor (supported by default). If we divide the results of 1920x1080 with 1280x720 will give us 2.25 too. I know 720p on 1080p will looks blurry.
In the PC world 720p was never a thing really - we used 1366x768 instead, which is exactly half the pixels of 1080p 😄
@@CataclysmComputers So true, back then in HD era, why they made 720p as a standard HD broadcast res, since there was almost no TV / Monitor has 720p native res? CMIIW. It's a bit odd to me. Should be 768p as standard, IMO. Even "HD READY' TVs back then have native res of 768p.
@@WCGwkf Not always - most games have just the most popular options; 1920x1080, 2560x1440 or 3840x2160
@@CataclysmComputers Half of 1080p would be... 540p?
@@carlosnobrega8308 It's almost half of the total pixels of 1080p but yeah, it is the multiplier per axis what matters when it comes to scaling. In that case 768p is 0.71x of 1080p not half.
Ha this is just what I needed to see. I've got this weird issue where when I set cod to 1440p on my 4k monitor it LOOKS like a massive frame drop while still reading at high frames on the counter. This could explain it!
In the context of use as a computer monitor, What does 1080p look like on a 4k tv versus 1080p on a 1080p tv?
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Dog shit like what I experienced as stated in the video
It looks pretty bad.
On 1080p you have less pixels and you can see that picture is not that sharp but if you run a game on 4K monitor using 1080p resolution, you will not see pixels, you will just get blurry image, much much worse than playing 1080p game on 1080p monitor.
If it's hard to understand, just set any game to 900p or 720p on your 1080p and see how it looks. It's similar.
At last, a clear run down on scaling. Every other video is "click this button". Well done, SUBBED!
I appreciate it!
Doesn't matter what the numbers say, run 1080p on 4k and run 1440p on 4k and the 1440p looks better, sorry it just does.
Great vid!! Clear vid resolution. Straight to the point and clearly explained.
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If you have AMD graphics. Don't worry and just buy a 4k monitor. Then go to AMD drivers and turn on FSR there. Both 1440p and 1080p will look good and you will still get FPS almost like on a 2K/1080 monitor.
Very simple
You can use FSR on GTX / RTX GPU too, love AMD ♡
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Nah this was clutch, much appreciated my guy you got a sub.
Glad it helped Brandon!
Clear and concise, thank you very much.
FINALLY I understand why 2k resolution looks off on my 4k monitor.. So it's essentially being scaled down to 2.25k, instead of a true 2k. Welp.. live and learn! lol.. Thanks for the very helpful video!! :)
How much inch your monitor have?
can custom resolution help with that? So that its exactly 2x less?
Would a 5160 x 1440 for ultrawide monitor be similar to 4K ?
Would you prefer a 3840x2160 or can the ultrawide be just as crispy especially that it is OLED display ?
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No problem which 1440p monitor would you recommend? (Not curved)
@@JG6ix The LG 32GN600-B is cheap in Australia, 1440p, 165Hz, flat panel, 32" - I'd just get that personally
I just bought a 4K monitor because I got a 4090! Love my 1440p monitor! Can’t let it go so gonna use that at the side for UA-cam and discord and so on. The bottleneck on a cpu for the 4090 is too much in 1440p so you pretty much have to go 4K with the 4090. Gonna try it 1440p sometimes on my 4K monitor but if it looks bad I’ll stick to 4K
You have a 4090, you can just play everything in 4K, no point playing in 1440p on that - it'll just look terrible 😁
@@CataclysmComputers yeah it does look bad, luckily I have two monitors connected my native 2k and 4K so could just switch between the two if I wanted :)
lol, you could simply lock it at a max framerate to not throttle your cpu
@@crashtestdummy87 The only helps if heat is the problem 🙂
Bro, is gaming 1440p on 4k monitor really that bad? Like is there a big difference between native 2k and downscaled 2k from 4k?
Great video. Straight on point. Clear explanation.
I have a question: isn't everything much smaller at 4k much and how do you reconcile this? Do you change the Scaling and layout in Windows OS?
Oh wowwww, you explained that perfectly, never in my life I would think that someone would give me an answer for this, in fact a clear answer as well, thank you you solved it for me
Glad I could help! 😁
Another tip to run 1080p on 2k monitor without ruined the experience is to set it at window screen 😊
Thanks man!!! So basically 1080p upscaled to 4k would look better than 1440p upscaled to 4k..pls correct me if I'm wrong.
downscale he says
Well this is an amazing explanation. Thank you. I’ve been using an LG C2 42” since oled for productivity (just a work laptop), gaming on a Series X and PS5, and watching 4K movies.
I want to build a PC after “window shopping” the hobby for 5-6 years now. am Just referencing the last few seconds of your video: if i want a lightweight build for casual older games (lightly modded Skyrim, small indie games, etc)…i could just aim for a 1080p type build and use it on my 4K LG without worrying too much?
When it comes with 4K gaming monitor, it makes 1440p graphics a slightly clean and they have some system that supports 4K like PS5.
Nicely explained, thanks man.
makes sense, well explained! thanks for the video.
Thank you man I had never though of this. actually right now I'm using a 49" TV as PC monitor (after my 1440p monitor died). my TV can support 1080p at 120hz refresh rate but only 60hz for 2160p. what I expected to see was working on 120hz or 100hz at 1440p but then I realized that it only give me 60hz and maybe what you said is the reason. now I'm using it at 4k/60hz and run my games in windowed mod with 1440p resolution.
I know this old vid but thanks for this, after lot googling only answer ever got was might effect quality, but no explanation why!
Thanks for this
Oh wow had no idea. Thanks! Now subscribed 😊
Very crisp and on point. Thank you
I'm hoping that my 4080 super, with nvidia's upscaling, will display my 1080P movies on a 1440p monitor and look reasonably well. Gaming won't be a problem - they will look badass i'm sure.
To play 1080p on 4K you can use RSR, FSR, DLSS, XeSS, TSR upscalers
Very nice video. This might be an obvious question but what about the other way around. Like if you bought a 1440p monitor and tried to play games on 4k. Would it even display 4k or would it just stay the exact same?
1440p monitor refers to the maximum resolution it can display, there's not enough pixels on a 1440p monitor to display 4K 😁
@@CataclysmComputers sir I have i7 12700 K 3070 ti..... Which monitor should I get......... please reply sir.... love from India 🥀🥀🥀💐💐
@@chandanipatel9938 Hey! Check out this video I made of the RTX 3070 Ti with only an AMD Ryzen 5 5600X hitting 220+ FPS in COD Vanguard in 1440p, and 180ish FPS in 4K:
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I would get a 1440p 165Hz monitor for your PC 😄
@@CataclysmComputers thanks for your great reply...... love you thank you 💐💐💐
Super helpful, thanks! To clarify, if I buy a 4k monitor and run 1080p it’ll work just fine? I want to buy a 4k monitor for programming but I want a 1080p for gaming. Also, if display through windows at 4k but through a game at 1080p would that work the same?
If the game is fullscreen the game will be 1080p 😁
you are right but i have a 27 inch 4k monitor what i do is when i game on it i first change the resolution of my screen to 1440p and then i game on 1440p resolution and since its an 27 inch monitor 1440p doesnt look bad on it
And oh yeah, If set 4K to 1440p in Display Resolution settings after right click in PC wallpaper background, it will fix the blurry thing.
Amazing...Only Video Regarding the Topic...
hi!! great video, What do you think is the RX 6800 enough for 4k?
It depends on the games, but you'd be able to sit around 150 FPS in COD Warzone in 4K with high(ish) graphics settings, I would prefer 1440p personally for the higher FPS 😁
Do you already have an RX 6800?
@@CataclysmComputers yes , i have an Rx 6800 and 4k 28" monitor
well if the answers to division was 1 4 9 instead of 1 2.25 and 4, we can run all resolutions on the monitor with more resolution which could be possible with any monitors with resolution higher than 4k
What?! i thought scaling quality is counting on pixel per axis, instead of total pixel?
I use my 4k 60hz native tv to game on with my rog ally i cap the fps to 60 and make the output 1080 and it works wonderfully now wanna go for a newer native 120hz screen so i can use my mini itx build on it for some high refreshrate 4k gaming
Very cool. My question is why aren't 2k monitors actually half of what 4k I. Probably the same reason 4k isn't 4 thousand pixels across
Because 1440p its not 2k, people say it is but its not
great vid straight to the point and understandable. good job
This is pretty useful, I recently got a RX 6800 Sapphire Nitro paired with a 13600K running DDR5, next thing I'm going to buy is the monitor and I'm indecisive between a Gigabyte M27Q-X 1440P 240 HZ or a M28U 4K 144hz, mainly because of the image clarity of the 4K resolution but I'm not sure if my gpu can keep single player games at higher than 60 fps.
Would you recommend downscalling some games like Cyberpunk (as an example) to 1080P with AMD FSR or just get the 1440P monitor, both monitors are at the same price range and I don't really play competitive FPS like CSGO or Valorant, mostly League of Legends and Fortnite and single player titles.
Thanks in advance.
there are really not that many games on the market that you cant play 60fps 4k without upscaling with a 6800. And all the newer games will have the new upscaling methods that makes lower res not that bad. You could play CP2077 easy on 1440 with that (without raytracing of course), or just use FSR on the 4k.
downscaling is not gonna help performance. You will get the same fps as playing a 4k game, but the image will be downscaled to 1080p.
I want a bigger monitor, lik 32-40 inches, but i don't want to see pixels, but i will not game much on 4k ever, maybe some games, Factorio seems fun, but shooters etc, not so much.
1440p is fine, i just want a higher refresh rate then.
But yeah, going 1440p on 4K, i am expecting it to get less clean and blurry, and i don't want that at all.
All in i would even rather go for mid 30 inches 1440p with high refresh rate than a bigger 4K with slower refresh rate that will not run 1440p as nice, and 4k resolution will be far too heavy for the games i will do or mostly on the hardware i will run it on, since i am not going to buy a ridiculous setup, i just want a big screen. 1080p is out of the question since that means visible pixels eveywhere.
So most likely i'll go mid 30 inches 1440p but at least 144Hz or slightly higher refresh rate.
Will probably cost a LOT less too.
Hey mate! So what you're going to find is that 32" is the max you'll find for the mainstream 16:9 resolution monitors
34" is a 21:9, so vertically it'll actually be shorter than a 32", but it will be much wider
For what you want to do, just get a 32" 1440p 165Hz monitor and you're all good.
4K is great but expect to spend more than double what a decent 1440p monitor costs, and at 32" I personally don't care much about the extra clarity of 4K
@@CataclysmComputers and you’d have to spend more for certain games to run well, or run lower res and have a slight blurring. So yeah, looks like “32 16:9 it will be, eventually. On 27” now, so not too bad I guess.
@@gabiballetje Exactly, I'm using 32" 1440p 144Hz myself, still happy with it !
That clearly explains it, thanks!
I have a question about my laptop with 2880 x 1800 native resolution.
I get 'playable' (competitive) experience if I set the games (in-setting) to run at 1080p (16:9)
Have you encountered changing the laptop's *active signal mode*?
I cannot override said settings even if I set my *display resolution* to 1920x1080 -- it stays at 2880 x 1800.
Will I get even better gaming experience if my native resolution will be changed to 16:9 1920x1080? If so, how do I change 'active signal mode'? I could not find any guide on how to change it. Native resolution seems to be changed accordingly, however that one won't.
Thank you.
Change to 1920x1200 because that's 16:10, like your native resolution 😁
Sounds like you're on a MacBook anyway, in which case you need third party apps to change your actual resolution
Play in fullscreen and choose 1920x1200 and you'll get better FPS than 2880x1800
@@CataclysmComputers Insightful!
I guess I should just leave my native resolution to 2880 x 1800 because even if I change it to 1920 x 1200 -- active signal mode stays 2880 x 1800.
I will now play games by setting their resolution to 1920 x 1200.
Do you have any tips for OBS Video Settings? Not sure how to rescale this
1440p is still the sweetspot for pc gaming i think.
Does this apply for consoles too? I am runnin' a series s with a 4k hdr samsung tv. Often, I find hat the pictures are only enjoyable when I sit atleast 8 feet away from the screen.
Should I got get a 1080p gaming monitor for my series S or should I change my console picture settings to 1080p even if it is still hooked to a 4k TV.
Are we talking about setting Windows to 1440 on a 4K monitor? Back in 2017 I tried to upgrade from a 24” 1080p to a 27” 4K. I played Witcher 3 and the 1080p looked HORRIBLE. It was blurry with terrible black levels. I changed the in-game settings to 4K and it looked amazing but the fps was like 20. I changed the game to 1440p and it looked almost as good as the 4K with a much better fps. I ended up returning the 4k monitor for a 1440p with gsync, but I miss the smoothness that 4K pixel density, even with the game set to 1440p. Windows and my GPU were all set to 4K, I only changed the resolution in the game.
I have a RTX 3070 and currently have a 1080p144 24” monitor. I play story mode games like GTA V, RDR2, Hitman, so I prefer quality over FPS.
I wanted to get a 4K144 28” for my birthday but I am really afraid of wanting to play a game on 1440 or 1080 and have problems. 😢
I wouldn't personally play in 4K with an RTX 3070 - RDR2 will run slow on that graphics card at 4K, but get 1440p instead and you'll be very happy 😁
But as he say in his video, you will get worse 1440p performance on a 4k monitor than a 2k monitor，so I suggest you get a 1440p144hz 27”monitor，you will get the best experience if you don't want to upgrade your graphic card.
thanks, helpful with my decision
No problem! Glad it helps 😁
best answer on the question i'm searcing!
I would say just go for a 4k monitor and use DLSS/FSR or RSR if your pc can't support a few games in 4k resolution
Shouldnt it in theory be possible to render games at exactly half the resolution of 4k ? I know there are no monitors with that resolution, but for setting a resolution in game it shouldn‘t matter, right ?
1440p it is. Thanks for the quick information bro. subbed 👍🏽
Any time! Glad it help 😄
Buying it for ur Xbox S?
Or buy the Neo g7 32 inch , and have native 4k , use the ultrawide game mode for ultrawide 1440p and create a custom resolution in nvidia control panel for 1080p . All on one monitor :)
if i have 4070 Ti and 17 12700 , i play story games and fps games , do you think the 4070 Ti enough for 4k ? or the 2K better ?
RTX 4070 Ti can do 4K easy 🙂
@Cataclysm Computers ohh but when i play fps games i need the 2K , can i play 2k on 4k monitor or its gonna look bad ? , thanks for replaying man ❤️
I am completelly mind blown that you can open the calculator app 3 times 😂. I never knew that lol
Haha just middle click it in the task bar!
I already knew that, but thanks for the interesting video
Finally my questions have been answered.
Clarity of Point made was in 8K!
Very nice video, but I was wondering, there are a lot of different resolutions the games can perform on, is there a resolution that has exacly 2 times less pixels than 4k?
Even if there would, it would not help you, because the point of this is basically that 1 GPU output pixel is shown by using 4 pixels on 4K screen. If you would have resolution that had 2 times less pixels than 4K it would still mean it would have to split the pixels so in this regard video maybe could be more specific - it does not matter if after doing the dividing you get even number, what really matters is that the answer has to be 4. If it is then there is no pixel splitting, if no - bad news and picture will be blurry. And the next level of going lower to a resolution that would not split pixels would be 960x540 - 518 400 pixels - now 16 (so 4x4) times less pixels on screen than 4K.
Hey man thanks for that. So if I buy a 4k monitor and downscale it to 1080p and play games like that, will the FPS be equivalent to a native 1080p monitor?
Yes FPS will be equivalent to native 1080p
Yep - it'll be rendering at 1080p, so it'll use the same amount of performance as a 1080p monitor. Just be aware that most monitors run slower when they're not at their native resolution; a 4K monitor running 1080p will be slower than a native 1080p monitor.
@@CataclysmComputers Confusing, how much slower? Slower in terms of output delay or FPS?
@@TalTheBest Not FPS - FPS is just tied to the rendering resolution - it'll be a slower response time, more like 3ms vs 1ms
No need for 4k monitor. Just buy 1080p one or if you have good graphics you can buy 2k one as well
Interesting explanations. So increasing a game's resolution to 1440p on a 1080p screen would be like zooming in on a 1440p monitor about 1.8 times. So it would appear a bit blurrier than on an actual 1440p monitor? Is this correct? B'cos I do that on my laptop with Vita3k. I'm not sure if I observe any changes btw 1080p & 1440p resolutions.
@@visualcycles Alright thanks
I’m getting a 4090/7950x3D for gaming and work, I want to get a 4k monitor for work and movies and streaming sports and single player games but would like the option to convert down to 1080p only when I want to play a multiplayer game competitively and get high frames or if a new game releases and doesn’t run at a high enough FPS for my liking, is that a good idea? Will there still be the same latency after converting?
Also do you have a recommendation for the type of monitor I’m looking for? Great at 4k display, low latency, highly competitive, great visuals, 240hz
If you have a 4090 you can just game in 4K 🙂
The 4090 can get higher FPS than 4K monitors can even display, so you'll be fine, that's the simple answer 😄
The Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 is the only 4K 240Hz monitor right now; but my advice is to just get a 4K 144Hz / 165Hz monitor and you're done 😄
At this point, i can't know what my actual viewing experience will be, i haven't bought a monitor yet - and i'm already feeling buyer's remorse :/
Came across your channel. Buying a ps5 . Was gonna get a lgc2 but some dude is telling me to get a 1440p monitor, he said it will look better because the game rendering res will downscall .
The main reason is companies dont want to make it possible. Why sell you one monitor that can play at any resolution when they can sell you 3 monitors. Thats the real reason this doesnt exist.
This was a great video but I have a question. I have a 4k 60hz monitor and want to enable 4k but there is no option for anything other than 1920x1080. I'm not sure if it has to do with my graphics card which is an Nvidia GT 610 or my version of windows which is windows 10 home, or if it's my processor which is a AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor - 3.50 GHz with a 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor. I want to be able to run 4k on a gaming pc I will soon buy that has an i7 12700f and a RTX 3070. Could you perhaps tell me if it's my monitor or something else? Thank you.
What's the exact model of the monitor?
@@CataclysmComputers it’s a Samsung - A700 Series 32" LED 4K UHD Monitor with HDR - Black it’s 60hz 4k
GT 610 can't do 4k，because it's too old to do so. You just need a new graphics card like the one you mentioned or even some cheaper cards like 960or970 can do 4k
@@ailin0603 yeah, found that out after I posted the comment. I don’t know if my 3070 came overclocked or what, it was pushing 700 fps on rocket league 4k and everything maxed
Just the power of money(3070 is strong enough to run 3A games at 4k60fps)
This is what I was looking for
disse is the way
What about DLSS 4K or FSR2.0. Native 4K is never going to possible for Unreal 5 engine games at high fps.
Some games don't need 150+ FPS, The Witcher 3 is still cool at 60-80 FPS at high settings for example 😄
If you run Unreal 5 games at native 4K with 60 - 90 FPS that's cool, plus new graphics cards will be able to handle Unreal 5 at high FPS anyway, just as new cards were released to handle UE4 at high resolution 😄
i played with 3070 rtx on resident evil village max settings on the Lg c2 42" and its very good !! very smooth like 60-90 fps at the most of times
but if i buy a 27inch 4k monitor and downscale to 2k, i would look the same as my 27 inch 2k screen right?
Glad I bought a 2k moniter
Nicely explained!
some new 4k gaming monitors actually give you the options to switch to 2k or FHD per OSD. it obviously also shrinks the screen. so on a 32 inch it can simulate a 27 or 24 inch display with different resolutions. works only great on oled though as the black borders can be a bit distracting.
Could you please name one monitor can do that?
@@nayefalharby178 hey sure, the ROG Swift OLED PG42UQ can shrink to 27' and 24' natively. obviously you loose screenspace physically
Im just gonna get 32 or 34 inch 4k monitory for non competative games/ movies, and my 280hz 1440p for competative games , and just the smoothness in general, even with the new 4k 240hz monitors downscaling is not the best ?
Ok, good, sweet. I can downscale to 1080p and keep a good result.
@Cataclysm Computers please I really need your help on this subject, I have a 4k laptop and I want to use a 2k external monitor and I tried it but the quality was bad, (my laptop is an oled gigabyte aero 15 xD can't disable optimus) 'please how can I get a native image quality knowing that this laptop has a mini display port ? will this make the image worse or i'll get a native 2k from a laptop ?
i stream at 1080p i leave my prisim live studio witch i use for multi streaming i no longer use obs studio because prisim live also puts the chats boxes together . but i game on 1440p on my main monitors . is that ok too ? i set up my prisim live studio too 1080p the requirements for twitch and youtube on twitch if i do 1440p no one can see it
the explanation was so clear and acceptable, thanks
Glad I could help!
I have a 4k monitor that I got for my ps5 since it HDMI 2.1, I am upgrading my PC and getting a 3060. Which Ill be gaming in 1080p. Will that be okay to play 1080p resolution on a 4k monitor?
Bros gaming MONITOR is literally a TV damn bro 😂
Is there a simple way (upscale device ?) to show HD ready (notebook) signal or Full HD (bluray) signal on a 4k monitor?
thx mate i wanted to buy a 4k monitor and downscale it to 1440p i stick to 1440p wait a few years when 4k is more affortable
Get a 4K screen, use AMD or Nvidia AI-Upscaling sourcery and be happy to still watch content in 4K rather than upscaled 1080p on a 1440p screen.
is a 1440p with 32 inch good for artists?
Fantastic explanation
Hey man I’m looking to maybe get the msi gp66 3070ti. Would like to play over watch halo and story games like Witcher 3 , star field when released etc. the msi do this with a 4K monitor like the lg gn950 for example? Or would it be best to just get 1440 p? I think on a review I seen it can get to 120hz on a 4K monitor?
Hey James, no, don't get a 4K 120Hz monitor for any laptop - unfortunately the 3070 Ti laptop version is nothing like the desktop version, it won't be similar. 3070 Ti laptops are fine on 2K though, just avoid 4K, it's the quickest way of making your new laptop feel old 😄
@@CataclysmComputers hey I just seen this for some reason. Thanks for getting back to me. Why do you think content creators who review laptops are saying you can use the laptops to output on a 4K display like a PlayStation 5 or series x? Wouldn’t a 3070ti be able to keep up with a PlayStation 5? I thought it would? I need a new laptop for my music and was thinking to get all in one but maybe better to just get a MacBook Air and a ps5 n tv/monitor? I dunno
@@jamesforte5379 sorry for the late reply but laptops have lower power versions of graphics cards. So a laptop 3070ti has Been made smaller and less power so that it could work within a laptop
@@21hoboman I see perhaps better to get a cheaper laptop for my music and console n 4K monitor/ tv.
hi bro.....honestly...downscaling to 1080p on my 1440p monitor too bad or not? not 4k to 1440p
It's not horrible but you're best to use a 1080p monitor, it just looks better - but you might just get used to it and live with it 😄
Just a bit confused cause....most of my games should work well at 1440p,but in some heavy games like Assassin creed valhala or rdr2,my gpu might not be able to hanlde at 1440p so....in that case.... 💔🤣
@@namarax0999 What GPU do you have?
Rtx 3060ti..
Is it ok to buy 1440p monitor with this gpu 😀
Thanks for this bro, im choosing between 2k and 4k for gaming, mostly single player games that have nice graphics and some occasional competitive battle Royale games, but I don't know if I better wait and make money for the high resolution 4k or go with the 2k in a short period of time asap, at the end I will end up going with the two, 2k for competitive and 4k for single player classic games... the thing is that I don't know which one I should buy first 😭
What graphics card have you got John?
@@CataclysmComputers Im on consoles for now 😅, exactly an xbox series X, so I want to take full advantage of the 4k resolution of the series X, but I have to wait to buy a good, decent 4k monitor for it, suddenly I want to do the translation to PC, maybe in a year or two (it is really expensive) and grab a 2060-3060 graphic card... I don't know if I should start now playing in a 2k monitor or wait and go first with the 4k, guess Im gonna have to do it that way, but what you think?
I initially wanted to buy a 27” 2k monitor for my ps5 and use with a intel nuc 11 enthusiast which runs a 2060 card. Should get ok performance at 1440p with adequate frames (60 I’m hoping). But more demanding tithes I figured scaling back to 1080 to get a jump in frames might be ok. I’m a little concerned how this will look if I do. Will DLSS assist?
Can’t make up my mind which way to go. Or maybe just stick to buying a 1080 but I guess it’s defeating the purpose of having a ps5 to a degree.
Ty this is very informative
So i can buy 4k big monitor to watch movies in 4k and play games in full hd and this will be fine , but when i try to play games in 2k games will be crap correct?
Hey bro, can a mid range/low end pc run a 4k display smoothly? And also how do you change the resolution of the screen
Yep! But if you're gaming it just won't run very well in 4K at all, the minimum graphics card for 60+ FPS in most games at 4K would be an Nvidia RTX 2060 Super / RTX 3060, below that you're going to struggle on some AAA games.
If you want to play Valorant, CSGO, Minecraft etc then the RTX 3060 will actually get you well over 100 FPS easy, but something like Read Dead 2 in 4K just isn't running at even 60 FPS on those graphics cards.
In short, it completely depends what you're using the PC for, if it's just browsing then most computers, even with integrated graphics, will run 4K on UA-cam etc completely fine - it's when you're gaming that you need to consider a better graphics card 😄
I want to buy 16inch qhd laptop , so if i want to watch or play 1080 content on it , it does look bad? In 16 inch screen is it noticable or not? Would you rather to buy fhd or qhd laptop?
It will still look fine, but preferably play in the native resolution
@@CataclysmComputers thanks bro