Older 2016 721 owner here. The 212cc engine is a beast. Love it. Dad got a 821qze last fall. The machine did GREAT! It scared the snow away! Didn't see a flake 🤣 Maybe this year.
I just bought mine my old toro had 141 cc this one is 212 about 5 more hp doesn't sound like alot for a car but in a small engine it is i have had toro snow blowers for a long time never fail just run them out of gas at the end of the season and they run great the next season this model does need more care when the season is over my old one was 2 cycle not going to miss mixing gas anymore
i bought a 721 QZS 2/2/2015 - first snow this year in lorain ohio it would not throw - i worked my ass off with it - push / pull i thought the wires were gonna pop out of my pace maker - so i called the dealer they picked it up & $240 later they replaced paddles & scrapper - waiting for the next snow - MERRY CHRISTMAS
Assuming you have no obstructions (e.g. gravel, dog toys, etc) or lawn ornaments that can get caught in the blade, the machine will be able to move the snow because of the motor _pulling_ it forward. However, I haven't cleared snow off my lawn (only driveway) before so I can't advise/recommend it.
Just a question: You have a piece of tape on the machine that says Premium fuel only. The owners manual only calls for regular (87 octane with up to 10% ethanol) or better. Does your machine run poorly with 87 octane or did you just decide that you would never use regular because you think that premium will make it perform much better?
Thanks for watching. The sales rep said use Premium to get the best performance and it'll extend the life of the machine itself. 87 octane he said is not as clean as premium and that tends to leave build up in the engine. This could mean your engine/blower will see a decline in performance as you use it more and more and you end up spending $$$ on having a SME mechanic clean the engine out which could have avoided.
@@dvampofo Quote from the FTC and a million other sources about this: the Federal Trade Commission, notes: “In most cases, using a higher-octane gasoline than your owner’s manual recommends offers absolutely no benefit. It won’t make your engine perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner.” The detergent additives in your gasoline are far more important than the octane level, as they help clean your engine and optimize performance. Each retailer offers a different blend of additives, used across all grades. For example, you can find Chevron’s Techron in both their regular and premium gas.
@@dvampofo he's probably referring to the fact that premium often has no ethanol where was regular gas will. Ethanol can often gum up the carb if left to sit, resulting in difficulty or inability to start. This is often remedied by keeping smaller amounts of fresh fuel available and making sure you run the machine dry of fuel in the carb before storing at the end of season. Otherwise, there really isn't any need for premium fuel, you're just wasting money.
the 821 and I imagine the 721 as well, being 4 strokes ain't got half the power and throwing ability of the old 2 strokes. thanks California and the EPA. I got the 821 and am not impressed. got an old ccr3650 rescued from a friend's garage and am trying to bring it back
I have a question years ago this type of snow blower used oil in the gas but this is a 4 cycle engine I think …. Is it more powerful then 2 cycle engine ?
This snowblower is pretty powerful since I just cut throw 15+ inches of snow today (Jan 17, 2022) with it, but cant give you a definitive answer comparing the 2 types of cycle engine.
@@dvampofo Thank you so much I am going to get one … we had so much snow in Cleveland area today and needed a snow blower .. I will try finding this one
Heavy snow for me was about 50 cm-70cm. I found that it _kinda_ did. See, if the snow is _too high_ and too hard *_and_* thick, the blower _will_ choke and stop until you pull it backward. My recommendation is that you remove the snow once it stops snowing. Thanks for watching
an owner should get non ethanol for all his small engines and run em dry at the end of the season. undo the carburetor bowl too and drain that. maybe take out the spark plug, give the cylinder a shot of lubricant and pull the starter chord a few times to distribute the oil on the cylinder wall
I just experienced it seizing up during our recent very heavy snow, 20" in Iowa. (2024). Naturally it froze straight forward position! Am looking for a solution. Would have given anything to just have the old manual control back again.
It looks like this Toro was purchased at Alpine in Scarborough Ontario. You don't want to use the cheaper gas in Canada as they contain additivities that can harm some of the parts. For example rubber. I've had an older model for about 10 years and it starts every time.
Have one and can’t believe they would have the exhaust blowing directly on the left bar part of the handle and auger cable, coating on cable is already melting off
@@dvampofo I’m curious to see a long-term review to see how it affects that area of the handle and cable other than that it seems like a very solid blower
@@michaelholly88 Yes, I do see the 821 exhaust is set higher than the 721. The 721 shoots right on the left side of the handle with the auger cable. Just awful. I heard changing the oil is a pain on these new machines because of the OHV engine cover is in the way although you probably haven't had to do that yet?
What other questions or features do you want to know about the Toro 721QZE snowblower? Comment below.
My neighbor has one when he starts it the machine blows gasoline
out of the carburetor
How do you turn it off?
Older 2016 721 owner here. The 212cc engine is a beast. Love it.
Dad got a 821qze last fall. The machine did GREAT! It scared the snow away! Didn't see a flake 🤣 Maybe this year.
Agreed. Thanks for watching!
I just bought mine my old toro had 141 cc this one is 212 about 5 more hp doesn't sound like alot for a car but in a small engine it is i have had toro snow blowers for a long time never fail just run them out of gas at the end of the season and they run great the next season this model does need more care when the season is over my old one was 2 cycle not going to miss mixing gas anymore
Thanks for watching and sharing!
i bought a 721 QZS 2/2/2015 - first snow this year in lorain ohio it would not throw - i worked my ass off with it - push / pull i thought the wires were gonna pop out of my pace maker - so i called the dealer they picked it up & $240 later they replaced paddles & scrapper - waiting for the next snow - MERRY CHRISTMAS
Thanks for watching and sharing this info
I just got one and I can’t wait to move snow blower
it's really good. The sales rep said that Toro engine quality has caught up to Honda but its more affordable compared to Honda. Thanks for watching
I just got mine last week. We will see how it does. No snow yet.
Thanks for watching.
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Can this be used for snow clearing over the lawn/grass as I have dogs?
Assuming you have no obstructions (e.g. gravel, dog toys, etc) or lawn ornaments that can get caught in the blade, the machine will be able to move the snow because of the motor _pulling_ it forward.
However, I haven't cleared snow off my lawn (only driveway) before so I can't advise/recommend it.
Just a question: You have a piece of tape on the machine that says Premium fuel only. The owners manual only calls for regular (87 octane with up to 10% ethanol) or better. Does your machine run poorly with 87 octane or did you just decide that you would never use regular because you think that premium will make it perform much better?
Thanks for watching. The sales rep said use Premium to get the best performance and it'll extend the life of the machine itself.
87 octane he said is not as clean as premium and that tends to leave build up in the engine. This could mean your engine/blower will see a decline in performance as you use it more and more and you end up spending $$$ on having a SME mechanic clean the engine out which could have avoided.
@@dvampofo Quote from the FTC and a million other sources about this: the Federal Trade Commission, notes: “In most cases, using a higher-octane gasoline than your owner’s manual recommends offers absolutely no benefit. It won’t make your engine perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner.”
The detergent additives in your gasoline are far more important than the octane level, as they help clean your engine and optimize performance. Each retailer offers a different blend of additives, used across all grades. For example, you can find Chevron’s Techron in both their regular and premium gas.
@@dvampofo he's probably referring to the fact that premium often has no ethanol where was regular gas will. Ethanol can often gum up the carb if left to sit, resulting in difficulty or inability to start. This is often remedied by keeping smaller amounts of fresh fuel available and making sure you run the machine dry of fuel in the carb before storing at the end of season. Otherwise, there really isn't any need for premium fuel, you're just wasting money.
the 821 and I imagine the 721 as well, being 4 strokes ain't got half the power and throwing ability of the old 2 strokes. thanks California and the EPA. I got the 821 and am not impressed. got an old ccr3650 rescued from a friend's garage and am trying to bring it back
I have a question years ago this type of snow blower used oil in the gas but this is a 4 cycle engine I think …. Is it more powerful then 2 cycle engine ?
This snowblower is pretty powerful since I just cut throw 15+ inches of snow today (Jan 17, 2022) with it, but cant give you a definitive answer comparing the 2 types of cycle engine.
@@dvampofo Thank you so much I am going to get one … we had so much snow in Cleveland area today and needed a snow blower .. I will try finding this one
ca n it plow through the heavy snow at the apron?
Heavy snow for me was about 50 cm-70cm.
I found that it _kinda_ did. See, if the snow is _too high_ and too hard *_and_* thick, the blower _will_ choke and stop until you pull it backward.
My recommendation is that you remove the snow once it stops snowing.
Thanks for watching
but does it have a electric start, for when in get to 25 below
Yes, it has an electric start. Follow the instructions in the manual on how to do it.
an owner should get non ethanol for all his small engines and run em dry at the end of the season. undo the carburetor bowl too and drain that. maybe take out the spark plug, give the cylinder a shot of lubricant and pull the starter chord a few times to distribute the oil on the cylinder wall
Thanks for the insight Marcus.
Have you ever had an issue with the remote chute control seizing up with ice or anything?
No, I havent.
I just experienced it seizing up during our recent very heavy snow, 20" in Iowa. (2024). Naturally it froze straight forward position! Am looking for a solution. Would have given anything to just have the old manual control back again.
Is the setup for the electric start the same as the manual start? It's a bit confusing.
Yes. Plug the snowblower and follow Steps 1-3 and then 4A-4C
It looks like this Toro was purchased at Alpine in Scarborough Ontario. You don't want to use the cheaper gas in Canada as they contain additivities that can harm some of the parts. For example rubber. I've had an older model for about 10 years and it starts every time.
I only use premium gas in mine as you can see the green tape on it. Thanks for watching
Have one and can’t believe they would have the exhaust blowing directly on the left bar part of the handle and auger cable, coating on cable is already melting off
I'll look out for that on mine and let my subscribers know. Thanks for watching
@@dvampofo I’m curious to see a long-term review to see how it affects that area of the handle and cable other than that it seems like a very solid blower
Probably the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on one of these. That is an absolute horrible placement for the exhaust.
@@aliaskink I bought the 821qze with 252cc engine, exhaust is higher and clears the bale cable and left side tubing.can’t wait to use it this season
@@michaelholly88 Yes, I do see the 821 exhaust is set higher than the 721. The 721 shoots right on the left side of the handle with the auger cable. Just awful. I heard changing the oil is a pain on these new machines because of the OHV engine cover is in the way although you probably haven't had to do that yet?
What make engine is in this model? Tecumseh or Briggs and Stratton? Thanks!
Hi Keith, sorry for the late reply. The engine is Toros. They're no longer sourcing from other manufacturers
How good are those tires and is that snow blower easy on your back???
Tires are made from plastic instead of rubber, so it doesnt grip the icy ground too well. Yes, the snowblower is easy on my back.
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@@dvampofo Much appreciated...
Tires lock up during wet heavy snow removal. I wish toro would upgrade the tires on the one stage.
@@dhank0 Much appreciated...
I thought this was a review of Toro battery 60 v
The gang at Alpine are good people.
Agreed. Thanks for watching.
3years & still not enough snow to use it yet. If I sell it we'll get hit with a ton of snow.😂
Haha, blame climate change 😂! Thanks for watching!
It’s NOT self propelled…the rear wheels don’t move
The paddle pulls it forward.
@@ShieldArc200 in theory but does not