You can still do these missions! You have to pick up the mission from Petra to start it. You may have to reload the zone to be able to begin the mission, but it’s still playable
@@simonediamante7556it essentially means you have the powers of the gods of the universe. Ie our ghosts reviving us we have paracausal power over death due to the traveler
@@simonediamante7556 Paracausality is a category used to refer to abilities, events or entities which seem to violate causality (i.e. the principle that all effects must have a preceding cause). It is also commonly referred to as "magic". Basically it means things that can do other things without without needing a cause (creating fire without burning fuel).
well the ussue is that it isnt vex tech that is causing the time loop, its liturally rivan's heart that is causing it through Rivan's ability to manipulate reality with her ontological and paracausle power. vex tech isnt going to work either because prior to the timeloop time never existed in the dreaming city the way it exists outside as it was an attempted recreation of the distributary's dimensional conditions. Rivan created it i think its likely only Rivan or another Ahamkara can end it. mechanically the 3 week cycle was originally so the shattered throne dungeon would be on a monthly cycle as well as the missions that are nolonger there
@@eotwkdpit is simple. It’s based on whatever the writers wants to do. Full stop. The fact that we are “wishing” to enter the traveler is so goofy not satisfying
I get where you're coming from but it both is and isn't simple. Lore wise we only got Saint out with Vex tech because it was the Vex themselves that trapped Saint. Vex are even more trash than my Crucible K.D. when it comes to paracausality. You should know this. Now what IS fucked is how the writers got themselves stuck in this whole loop shit and now they say 'oh you can't ever undo it' but hey look we shoot a Taken Tech Witch and she pops out fine right? It's inconsistent shit I hate. Now if we WERE to break the Curse, then you're right in that it is simple. But you chose the wrong method. Instead of machines that can't even calculate Guardians... you get a Wish Dragon to break another Wish Dragon's deal. Or at the very least you make a new bargain that happens to lead the old one to a new outcome. There's that. But then as well there's going into the Traveller since that shit apparently rewrites the fucking universe, eh? Point it: wrong method, but right mindset. And the writers are fucking stupid.
Your half right it was a combination of wish magic, and vex calculations that created the curse so we would need a combination of vex tech and wish magic to undo it
5:53 or so. For the record, you can do the weekly missions. Just go to Petra and they should be one of the weekly bounties often at the top of her vendor screen.
It seems everyone forgets that when Savathick was encased in her cocoon there was a room off to the right. Mara had what appeared too be an egg in there...
I wonder if Mara will find away to make the final wish let us follow the witness and break the curse, maybe riven making the final/15th wish is what would break the curse or complete it this freeing the city For Riven idk if she’ll twist this wish cause she wants her kin to be free and if the witness wins that’s bad news for her so riven being straight with the wish can make sense.
Do you think Petra had something to do with scattering Rivens eggs? She been kinda quiet and the game makes you juggle between trusting Mara or Riven. I could be way off, just a thought
I believe another factor like their the Hive God siblings, Agent of the Darkness/Witness, The Nine or whatever entity or whatever in general that is out there tbh
I have a theory of how this season will end. There's a good chance that mara will use the wish to save the dreaming city given how much effort is going into discovering a way to make a connection between the traveler and the veil similar to how the witness did it. if this theory is right, mara would alter the wish last minute to destroy the curse in the dreaming city. with no other option we would get a message from osiris saying that hes found a way to establish a link using our ghosts and finally get us into the traveler. With the rising tension between mara and riven this season i see this as a possible outcome. Also a wish to just let us into the traveler seems like too easy of an excuse to get us into the traveler, and would leave all the research that osiris has been doing to be nothing but a fun easter egg.
IIRC the extra missions after the end of this seasons story are called “wishes”. I could see it being a weekly quest to free the various characters stuck in the loop. There may not be enough power to end the curse outright, but may be enough to pull individuals or groups out of it.
Amrita was always a character that I have felt so sorry for. Doomed to repeat the same action each 3 weeks, being tortured for eternity. Even the help that she receives will some day forget about her while she suffers on. I know we guardians are supposed to help each week, but how many of us actually do. Man, Petra really is just the best
2:02 Kalli, Sedia, and Shuro Chi were Taken in the Battle of Saturn, years before the Curse. The reason they could be untaken was because Illyn, one of the Techeuns that remained in the City during the battle, later accidentally wished that Kalli et al. could be back and Riven granted it. "That is when she makes the fatal mistake. She thinks of the time before Saturn. She thinks of Shuro Chi and Uldren and Mara. She… wants that time back. She wants. In the nonspace around them, great jaws snap shut. 'RIVEN!' brave Portia screams." That's from the Illyn entry of the book The Awoken of the Reef. Riven then killed all the other Techeuns as the price for said wish. We still needed to go through some raid rigmarole for some reason but that wouldn't have worked at all if not for Riven's paracausal finagling.
fun fact, broken corsair is suppose to be playable but is very much still broken. Good luck trying to get it to work and hope you reach there the right week.
That's something in the dreaming city that has to do with getting to the witness bc this is all apart of savthuns plans aswell bc she made a wish with her and that means the curse has a purpose
During the witch queen campaign Mara ask savathun how to revise the curse and she says she can’t bc she doesn’t remember how to revise it and her worm knows how to
Remember: the Witch Queen is trickster god. A god of lies. There is the possibility that the info in Savathun's scrolls is a lie and that there is a way to broken the curse know only by Savathun herself.
Maybe i'm wrong, but the wish wall work only with riven since it was "linked" with the dreaming city, but it's only a theory..if that is true, ahamkara are too powerful and they can "alter" wishes do it cant be possible
@@Spahkiin a way yeah, I imagine she gave Petra a degree of paracausal power and that has allowed her to come and go without the curse impacting her in that way
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The original answer to this is long but it's for the same reason Petra isn't trapped even though she was also in the dreaming city the entire time the curse was going on. Paracausal forces defy logic. The curse and the guardian both are Paracausal and by result they both have things that make no sense in their interaction with each other and it would seem our influence had also extended to Petra being able to move freely as well since she also had a hand in the process of freeing techiuns which had a lot to do with Paracausal forces as well.
You can still do these missions! You have to pick up the mission from Petra to start it. You may have to reload the zone to be able to begin the mission, but it’s still playable
Guardians, being paracausal due to the Light, are outside the scope of Riven's Curse, thus we can dip in and out of it at will.
@@MRICECOLDCOLEI assume it’s like a Tuesday reset and she’s doomed to be a part of that…
“It’s also just a game” lmao 🤣
@@MRICECOLDCOLEPetra is paracausal too. She was trained as a Techeun. It’s why the Techeun’s can also leave at will too.
Where i can found the definition of paracausal? Google didn't help
@@simonediamante7556it essentially means you have the powers of the gods of the universe. Ie our ghosts reviving us we have paracausal power over death due to the traveler
@@simonediamante7556 Paracausality is a category used to refer to abilities, events or entities which seem to violate causality (i.e. the principle that all effects must have a preceding cause). It is also commonly referred to as "magic".
Basically it means things that can do other things without without needing a cause (creating fire without burning fuel).
To stop the loop, we must use vex instuments. The same thing we did for saint-14. Get them before the curse hits. Save them before the curse.
Magic is not simple… that curse is a moment in time that can be entered. Besides to try such a thing might…let the curse seep out.
well the ussue is that it isnt vex tech that is causing the time loop, its liturally rivan's heart that is causing it through Rivan's ability to manipulate reality with her ontological and paracausle power. vex tech isnt going to work either because prior to the timeloop time never existed in the dreaming city the way it exists outside as it was an attempted recreation of the distributary's dimensional conditions. Rivan created it i think its likely only Rivan or another Ahamkara can end it. mechanically the 3 week cycle was originally so the shattered throne dungeon would be on a monthly cycle as well as the missions that are nolonger there
@@eotwkdpit is simple. It’s based on whatever the writers wants to do. Full stop. The fact that we are “wishing” to enter the traveler is so goofy not satisfying
I get where you're coming from but it both is and isn't simple.
Lore wise we only got Saint out with Vex tech because it was the Vex themselves that trapped Saint. Vex are even more trash than my Crucible K.D. when it comes to paracausality. You should know this.
Now what IS fucked is how the writers got themselves stuck in this whole loop shit and now they say 'oh you can't ever undo it' but hey look we shoot a Taken Tech Witch and she pops out fine right?
It's inconsistent shit I hate.
Now if we WERE to break the Curse, then you're right in that it is simple. But you chose the wrong method. Instead of machines that can't even calculate Guardians... you get a Wish Dragon to break another Wish Dragon's deal. Or at the very least you make a new bargain that happens to lead the old one to a new outcome.
There's that. But then as well there's going into the Traveller since that shit apparently rewrites the fucking universe, eh?
Point it: wrong method, but right mindset. And the writers are fucking stupid.
Your half right it was a combination of wish magic, and vex calculations that created the curse so we would need a combination of vex tech and wish magic to undo it
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5:53 or so. For the record, you can do the weekly missions. Just go to Petra and they should be one of the weekly bounties often at the top of her vendor screen.
It seems everyone forgets that when Savathick was encased in her cocoon there was a room off to the right. Mara had what appeared too be an egg in there...
I wonder if Mara will find away to make the final wish let us follow the witness and break the curse, maybe riven making the final/15th wish is what would break the curse or complete it this freeing the city
For Riven idk if she’ll twist this wish cause she wants her kin to be free and if the witness wins that’s bad news for her so riven being straight with the wish can make sense.
Do you think Petra had something to do with scattering Rivens eggs? She been kinda quiet and the game makes you juggle between trusting Mara or Riven. I could be way off, just a thought
She hasn’t had any agency since Mara came back. It would be interesting if she grew tired of mara’s ego and secrets.
I believe another factor like their the Hive God siblings, Agent of the Darkness/Witness, The Nine or whatever entity or whatever in general that is out there tbh
I have a theory of how this season will end. There's a good chance that mara will use the wish to save the dreaming city given how much effort is going into discovering a way to make a connection between the traveler and the veil similar to how the witness did it. if this theory is right, mara would alter the wish last minute to destroy the curse in the dreaming city. with no other option we would get a message from osiris saying that hes found a way to establish a link using our ghosts and finally get us into the traveler. With the rising tension between mara and riven this season i see this as a possible outcome. Also a wish to just let us into the traveler seems like too easy of an excuse to get us into the traveler, and would leave all the research that osiris has been doing to be nothing but a fun easter egg.
If your character is a awoken the NPC will call you cousin some time.
I've heard about that petra does the same thing
IIRC the extra missions after the end of this seasons story are called “wishes”. I could see it being a weekly quest to free the various characters stuck in the loop. There may not be enough power to end the curse outright, but may be enough to pull individuals or groups out of it.
I think Osiris will figure out the veil and riven will end the curse
Amrita was always a character that I have felt so sorry for. Doomed to repeat the same action each 3 weeks, being tortured for eternity. Even the help that she receives will some day forget about her while she suffers on. I know we guardians are supposed to help each week, but how many of us actually do.
Man, Petra really is just the best
Ik I feel the same way she needs a hug atleast 😕 poor woman I try to help on my characters
@@johngancarcik5682 doing the best we can...
@@SlimeyZockt yep sometimes that's all it takes
Petra repeatedly going to the same people every few weeks and treating them in the same way for years is heartbreaking and amazing.
Maybe Osiris’ quest for another way through the portal will be fruitful and we can use the wish to end the curse?
Ye, those weekly missions are still in game. Been doing them almost every week since forsaken... I guess even guardians aren't imune to curses... 😅
They are still fun
2:02 Kalli, Sedia, and Shuro Chi were Taken in the Battle of Saturn, years before the Curse. The reason they could be untaken was because Illyn, one of the Techeuns that remained in the City during the battle, later accidentally wished that Kalli et al. could be back and Riven granted it.
"That is when she makes the fatal mistake. She thinks of the time before Saturn. She thinks of Shuro Chi and Uldren and Mara. She… wants that time back.
She wants.
In the nonspace around them, great jaws snap shut.
'RIVEN!' brave Portia screams."
That's from the Illyn entry of the book The Awoken of the Reef. Riven then killed all the other Techeuns as the price for said wish. We still needed to go through some raid rigmarole for some reason but that wouldn't have worked at all if not for Riven's paracausal finagling.
fun fact, broken corsair is suppose to be playable but is very much still broken. Good luck trying to get it to work and hope you reach there the right week.
Get the quest from Petra. Reload the area. Enjoy the mission.
3 missions are still playable they rotate weekly along with Petra
That's something in the dreaming city that has to do with getting to the witness bc this is all apart of savthuns plans aswell bc she made a wish with her and that means the curse has a purpose
Riven will make a wish to break the curse in exchange for the safe keeping of her eggs!
During the witch queen campaign Mara ask savathun how to revise the curse and she says she can’t bc she doesn’t remember how to revise it and her worm knows how to
Remember: the Witch Queen is trickster god. A god of lies. There is the possibility that the info in Savathun's scrolls is a lie and that there is a way to broken the curse know only by Savathun herself.
i'm curious as to why petra doesn't seem to be affected by the loop, hell she just left the dreaming city during season of the lost
I feel so sorry for her :(
The corsairs beacons stll drop so tou can still do them
Sorry guys, one question off topic: the egg that we have found in the last season, was one of the egg of riven?
Eris supposed it was but we have no confirmation.
Interesting
Couldn't we reverse it with the power of Riven's children when they get powerful enough (if we use the wish wall?)
Maybe i'm wrong, but the wish wall work only with riven since it was "linked" with the dreaming city, but it's only a theory..if that is true, ahamkara are too powerful and they can "alter" wishes do it cant be possible
If they are trapped, how is Petra able to get out of the city? As she is seen in the helm
Only those privileged enough to lick Mara's toes can escape the curse
@@Spahkiin a way yeah, I imagine she gave Petra a degree of paracausal power and that has allowed her to come and go without the curse impacting her in that way
@@nathanflinchum1153 another man of culture I see.
I'm willing to guess being a queens wrath grants some perks and benefits maybe allowing her to escape or something she learned on her own
@@johngancarcik5682 perks like access to Mara's used shoes
Cool
How come the gaurdain isnt trapped in the loop
We're built different
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The original answer to this is long but it's for the same reason Petra isn't trapped even though she was also in the dreaming city the entire time the curse was going on. Paracausal forces defy logic. The curse and the guardian both are Paracausal and by result they both have things that make no sense in their interaction with each other and it would seem our influence had also extended to Petra being able to move freely as well since she also had a hand in the process of freeing techiuns which had a lot to do with Paracausal forces as well.
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Whenever you need an answer to the guardians. Paracausal power is usually the answer
despite being filled with determination, it seems that Amrita is gonna have a bad time. 😈
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