WHAT KILLED POP-PUNK? New Found Glory, Sum 41, The Story So Far
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2019
- What killed pop-punk? I look at the rise of pop-punk, the golden years of Blink 182, New Found Glory and Sum 41, and the mini-revival of the 2010s with The Story So Far, Real Friends, etc and ask the big question: what happened?
- 90s pop punk/skatepunk like Descendents, All, Screeching Weasel, The Vindictives, NOFX, and J Church
- How Green Day and The Offspring made pop punk mainstream
- Golden era bands like Fenix TX, Simple Plan, The Starting Line, Unwritten Law and Home Grown and labels like Drive Thru Records
- The rise of the Fueled By Ramen bands like Paramore and Fall Out Boy
- How New Found Glory inspired the 2010s bands like The Story So Far, Real Friends, and Knuckle Puck (and the related "soft grunge" bands like Citizen, Title Fight, and Basement)
- Did emo rap take it's place? Eg, Lil Aaron, Lil Peep, Wicca Phase Springs Eternal, Lil Lotus, etc
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What happened to ska punk?
What killed ska punk?
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1m15sec into the BMTH Amo review.
Rap sucks!!!
@16:50 you said part 6 and it says part 7. :D
It all died when they stopped making good Tony Hawk's Pro Skater games...
Geoff Brown yeah underground 2 was the last good one
@@hi1000ish big facts
thats kind of true xD
hah, those games nearly derailed Deftones. They spent more time in the studio playing Pro Skater than they did recording White Pony.
Damn, that's accuracy
Guess as Sum 41 predicted:
We all became casualties of society and fell in line.
no, I'm forever just another reject. SUM 41 FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny thing is, the 2019 Sum 41 album is excellent.
the funny thing is. we all became what we most despised because its called growing up. unfortunately if you dont fall in line, unless you are VEERY lucky, you will be living on the street. try turning 40 and refusing to work, turning up your nose to capitalism and refusing to "grow up". Yeah, youre living on the street. but that was the best part about being a punk as a kid. you didnt have any hopes or desires to be the way we end up being. as opposed to the kids (preppies) who looked up to the adults and the world and couldn't wait to become successful. they robbed themselves of their youth... and thats much much worse than "falling in line" when you become an adult.
South Central L.A. Are you ready to rock!
@@ug6074 Sum 41!!
I'm mostly a brutal death metal fan but I will never stop loving pop punk bands from the mtv era. I am still a HUGE Sum 41 fan and will never be ashamed of it
And you never should be ashamed of it
Oh yeah pop punk was so fun during the peak mtv era.
I too am a metal head whose a giant sum 41 fan.
Breaks my heart because Pop Punk is my absolute favorite thing in the world.
Who were ur favs?
facts
@Mason Watkins I just discovered it at 20 y/o and I absolutely love it
It’s coming back
@@MrDiMES123 not really. A few mainstream artists make one pop punkish album isn’t a genre revival.
You forgot this band or that band
What are you doing here? This place is for legends only 😉
Hello, you absolute legend. How in the blue hell could he forget THAT band?
What about those bands?
Hey look at this absolute legend
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Dear Pop Punk:
I miss you
I miss you
Where are you?
And I‘m so sorry
i cannot sleep
i cannot dream tonight
Blink 182 💕💕
pop punk killed rock.
Blink 182 sucked ass.
Johnny Boy under metal and rock’s boot, where it belongs
rock was cool untill pop punk and then pop punk ruined everything.
Honestly, (and I've thought ALOT about this lately), I feel like we love pop punk still because of the era it was a part of. 1995-2007 were some of the greatest times to be an American kid growing up a normal life. School, girls, sports, flip phones, etc. It was just good. The internet was there but didn't control us and social media was still in its infancy, therefore not really giving people a voice who did NOT need to have a voice lol There was a laid back, optimistic outlook on life that was pervasive all around. Everything changed starting in 2008. Media content (like movies, music, etc.) became driven by social agendas, social media and smart phones split us apart, and it's only gotten worse. This music reminds me of what it was like to be a kid in a golden age -- I miss it.
I always mark 2008 as the end of the 2000s and the start of a transitional time, and 2009 is just WEIRD in my memory. Such a strange year imo. But yeah, 2003-2007 were my personal prime years I’d say. 1997-99 were important to me too, but solely because of Titanic mania lol.
and fast furious exploded the tuner scene
Oh God, shut up! You just sound like another fuckin drama queen. It was no golden age. It was just when you were young and oblivious.
@@brittanybutlermusic you're stupid
@Le Femme Lolita has got a helluva point. it's less about the time and more about your age at the time. i could give you a paragraph like that about the mid to late '90s, because that's when i was old enough to have fun and young enough to lack responsibilities, but it didn't run all the way to 2007. by then i was paying off student loans on a retail paycheck and wondering when my life was going to take off.
Maybe it’s just because I was in the thick of it, but the Emo Takeover was MASSIVE and “older” bands like Green Day successfully crossed over into it (aesthetically, for sure) with American Idiot and were bigger than ever! I think GD is a good measure of how pop-punk actually *did* remain super relevant until 2007-ish. They were coasting on American Idiot from 04-07 and once that wore off, so did pop-punk in general. Everything started changing in 2008. The flagship Emo Takeover bands like Fall Out Boy and Panic! released their “experimental” albums that year and it was all over after that lol.
Facts.
Green Day def made it through. I would say sum 41 and blink 182 somehow survived but not like Green Day
Actually you are so true abt everything
Panic isnt emo though its post hardcore.
@@TheBroLounge how in the world is panic posthardcore
And now were just old dudes and gals wearing blink 182 shirts and pretending to be edgy with a 9 to 5 job
Yep
I relate to this so much it hurts
With my blink 182 tattoo... way to relatable 😩😩😩
Nori CanadianEh fuck ya.. I’ll still get fucked up and make bad decisions lol
No one's edgy anymore, they're all too woke.
I’m 37. This is all I still listen to in my cargo shorts.
with your sketchers too lol ,, chillen next to your bbq with a beer
High five.
I'm sorry.
Word. I'm about to turn 35, and you can still occasionally see me out in the street in front of my house, wearing some black cargo pants, and doing stunts with either my skateboard or RC car. Some things never change...
Oh man when I saw the beginning of this vid it got a little worried, when I saw the exact Dickies and Hurley shirt I still own and wear.
Simple Plan still speaks to this 32 year old "just a kid"
I still blast Simple Plan's songs in our gym's loud speakers and teenagers and early 20's kids love it. They bop their heads and stomp their feet on it while working out. Pop punk will always appeal to young people because it sounds young.
Simple plan is the worst stupid band ever...fucking grow up!
Falou tudo magrao
Tik Tok.hahaha
@@tiago.rasskazchic They're not bad. You just don't like them
Oh how I wish I grew up in the early 2000’s, being an edgy teenage skater boi, listening to these awesome bands! like, i love this style of music!!
you can listen to that music and watch those movies and voila you're there
It's was great
I was a teen in the 2000s it was the best time of my life and music was great.
We never said boi
You can still do that! ❤
I feel like pop punk will always pull at people’s heart strings. Especially those who grew up with it around the 2000’s. Those were some awesome times though.
Anna Bel I’m 29 and I agree
I think it can be revived with the retrowave movement like pop with synthesizers and a lot of bass like 80's are today, but it will take some time.
I agree. During that time, I was way more into Nu-Metal, but I listened to pop punk too, specially Blink 182. A couple of years later, thanks to the internet, I got a hold of some Good Charlotte, Offspring, Green day and Sum41 songs and I really loved them. Great soundtrack for the teenage years
Im 13 in 2019 favorite music
for real though, it was fun music.
What killed Pop-Punk? It's simple really, the same thing that kills everything: Time.
Yup. But let's be thankful that pop punk had the run it did, from about 1994-2009. It had a much longer time in the sun than many genres/subgenres did.
Well, and the people who made pop punk are all AT LEAST middle aged now. Young people like music made by other young people and the sound tends to change along with that.
@@yellowpinkgreengreen That's not unique to pop-punk/emo-pop, that's also pretty common with rock music in general. Rock as a whole seems to now be perceived as the music of dads, grandpas, annoying hipsters, and old washed up has-beens.
@@Interestingenough4 Every generation is like that though. For example, you don't see teenagers listening to doowop because that's grandpa music. It's definitely not just a punk problem.
@@yellowpinkgreengreen Precisely.
I refuse to be too cool to admit Good Charlotte was my childhood. Admittedly they don't end up in my speakers today as much as blink, green day, and mcr but still...
Pop punk is arguably one of the most influential rock genres in the history of rock. Even to this day, Twentyone Pilots, Panic at the Disco, Billie Eillish, Fever 333, a lot of the metalcore bands, etc., still base their music in the mid to late 90’s pop punk ethos.
Yeah 21 pilots (and sadly MGK) remind of 2000s pop-punk even though they dont sound like one.
Accurate
I loved pop punk that why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
1. Myspace died
2. No more Tony Hawk games
3. Avril married that Sum 41 vocalist
Didn't they broke up????
@@TheNeromethod then she married that Nickelback dude
@@Manamius and they also broke up
MTV had a lot of pop punk cultural icons that also disappeared like Rob Dierdeck, Bam, Jackass. Those died with skateboarding culture.
@@Manamius wtf
Pop punk is a timeless genre to me. I never get tired of it. THE STARTING LINE IS ONE OF MY ALL GOATS. As a 23 year blink fan, I will never stop listening to pop punk
Blink doesnt like you for 23 years of fun
Ywss I don't think it died at all I go to shows Ll the time and buyerch still literallye and all my friends still fuq with pop punk...right now sadboi rap is popular but there's always something that's the most popular at the moment but doesn't mean. It's dead.
good on ya! here's me trying to revive the beloved genre: ua-cam.com/video/VU8sHhojhas/v-deo.html
The lead singer of The Starting Line has a couple of other projects that are also great. Vacationer and Person L are both almost equal to The Starting Line.
@@HotStrange Thanks man, I love TSL. I'll check these out!
"I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too."
My 7 favorite pop punk bands are Sum 41, Blink 182, New Found Glory, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, The Offspring, & Neck Deep.
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk cause my views on youtube are insane
Some of us are divorcing the girl that just to work at Jamba Juice
Too real
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Felipe Puerta 😂😂😂
yo this is wayyyyyy to real right here
Pop-Punk revival will be big in the 2030s
Saint Bukowski time traveler?
oh god lets not
April 2031
Saint Bukowski 2020s
Yeah when the Pop-Punk kids all have their own kids
I'm 21 and pop-punk will always be in my heart. Green Day fan over here.
Ame Carranza98 same
Same here
dude, wtf! I just found your channel and I'm probably not going to sleep for the next few days marathoning all of your videos.
Thanks man!
Still friggin obsessed at nearly 28. I don’t wanna grow up lol
Please don't, this world doesn't need you tricking someone into helping you reproduce
@@DerekMattson dude went from zero to Edge Lord real quick. I'm impressed.
You and me both
I'm 30 and same lol
I think all of us around that age feel the same way.
"Real" punk rock may be "better", but Sum 41 and the Offspring had tons of great stuff and people still love 'em :)
New Sum 41 songs are great
The turning point was when they released “Does this look infected?” Because their sound matured a ton and started showing a lot of their influences from 80s hard rock and heavy metal.
jo hn That album and Chuck help the redefine their style and right now I’ve been loving what they are doing
don't put offspring in that category. they were pretty commercial, but have been around for a long time. and did make decent music
Karen Sanders go eat a tide pod
"Lil X is the MCR of this generation, Lil Y is the FOB of this generation": as a sixteen-year-old, I can confirm that this kind of artists are indeed quite influential, but there's still a lot of us out there for whom MCR and FOB are the MCR and FOB of our generation
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
Aesthetic aside, good Charlotte is actually one hell of a band. They are so good live. Tight, completely on time and synced up (would’ve be surprised if they play to a click these days) and vocals sound like their records. Spot on.
Chronicles Of Life And Death fucking rules. "Mountain" is a borderline metal song.
saw them on the warped tour rewind cruise. Very solid even to this day
What was wrong with their Aesthetic?
@@IceBreakBottle nothing that’s just a reason a lot of people hate on them. Some people see what a band looks like or their general vibe (merch designs, album covers etc) and write them off. It’s bogus but i made reference to the context of the video and how they’re actually a very good band, even though some people won’t give their tunes the time of day
they're also responsible for avenged sevenfold being in the mainstream W
I miss 2005 😢 blink, fall out boy, good charlotte, new found glory...Halo 2 on the OG Xbox live on a tiny CRT TV, getting CCS catalogs in the mail, only thing I had to worry about was school.....
You had me at CRTs and CCS!
The Punk Rock MBA dude those were the days!! I still regularly try to make it out to pop punk shows as much as I can I'm excited to see where the genre goes from here.
Good charlotte released an album last year (2018) heres one of my faveourite songs from it ua-cam.com/video/fZWxelCdAnk/v-deo.html enjoy😀
facttss my guyy those were the days, how I fucking miss them.
Shheeeet man. Good year for me. Senior year, dated girl who is now my wife. Freakin Halo man. Good times.
I think its good that punk rock and rock is not all that mainstream, we can maybe go back to the time when you found your new favorite band at local shows.
Punks not dead, its just back at square one...your backyard shows at dive bars and just strait up local shows. SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SCENE
Unfortunately this gen is producing laziness and a beat scene. ( Baltimore anyways ) but I do agree with you in theory
And 2020 killed the live show and soon there will be no venues left...
Hmm that'd be cool
We actually had a small venue behind my high school where we would do hardcore shows. $10 to get in and it was a free for all. Met so many great bands in person and got to play with my band on that stage once. Nothing better than the local scene.
@@j.c.k9922 lol dude producing actually worthwhile beats(Mac Miller swimming or circles are both perfect albums) is infinitely harder than producing a simple 2 verse 2 chorus 1 bridge and solo music. I've been playing melodeath and black metal which are arguably much harder than rock and shit is child's play compared to making complex beats.
Also, listen to Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly like dude boomer mindset
Loving the fact that you covered bands like Title Fight, Citizen and Tigers Jaw etc.. they were a huge part of my high school experience and still some of my favorite music today.. Awesome vid man!
Literally all the overlooked bands were some of my favorites, thank you for shouting out Homegrown, Fenix TX, Rufio, The Starting Line, etc!
Wow this is so accurate, I was born in 85, and as a black kid in middle and high school I caught so much shit for enjoying pop punk and later on emocore sounds. Bands like Brand New, Taproot, and Dashboard Confessional defined my senior year of high school.
You just made me laugh. We used to say punk and hardcore died in 1985. I'm not mocking you at all. I just feel real fucking old right now.
Yeah, black culture definitely hates blacks that “act white.”
Yeah, I kinda wish the mosh pit was more ethnic.
@@sloppynyuszi same, I feel sad cause even if I do find someone who has the same music taste as me in real life. They will probably be White and there will always be that cultural divide type of thing
I'm 34 and never stopped listening to Sum41, Green Day and even Blink 182 among others. Maiden and Priest were the gods that we praised.
Cause we like having fun at other peoples expense
aside from greenday, no grown man should be listening to that crap. 90s epitaph records was the best time for REAL punk music. not these little bitches who paint their nails black and think they're punk rocker.
Green Day isn’t punk at all just a bunch of sellouts.
I lived for Sum 41
The pop punk genre will always have a huge space in my heart and my memories. The days of skateboarding with my friends after school, feeling the surge of energy that ran through me when the newest New Found Glory or Red Jumpsuit Apparatus song came on. I don't really think it died, personally I think if enough fans want it.....it will come back.
All, Descendants. Two of my first bands, and ones I saw. Going back further, Ramones, Stiff Little Fingers, The Clash. So good. From the era you’re describing, so many: Face to Face, No Use For A Name, Propaghandi, Tilt, Rancid, Green Day, Blink 182, Lagwagon, MxPx, Bad Religion, Pennywise, The Offspring,.....then Ska-punk like Less Than Jake, Reel Big Fish, Goldfinger, The Mr. T Experience. Mighty Mighty Bosstones. So many good memories!!
I still jam Blink 182 all the time. Hot damn did I ever love that era!
Same
I'm in a weird space with Blink, I am currently listening to Angels & Airwaves more than them. But i'm still jamming to Sum 41. It was a really good era.
I cannot stand the new blink 182 without tom deLonge. its an embarrassment. I like AVA better anyways..
Josh Herbert I don’t really mind the new Blink to be honest, but it’s definitely not magical like the older stuff was
I just went to blink show in Las vegas traveled from ny mainly for that show
Pop punk was one of those genres that were widely enjoyed by a large audience. It has a special place in the hearts of anyone who went to middle school, high school, or college at some point during the 90s/00s. :D
So true. Nu metal and pop punk was the shit back then - sad to see that those styles now have almost completely died out. Those were my youth.
@@torstenscholz6243I entered middle school in 2008. I feel lucky to have caught even just the very tail end of it, the "Gives You Hell" or "21 Guns" era. hahaha
@@devonasprer5308yeah same here I was 13 in 2005 and I remember getting blinks greatest hits album. New found glory’s 2004 album was the first for me and early 2000s I was listening to all the punk music in all of the tony hawk games. My older brother introduced me to 90s punk. It was an amazing time
Thanks for mentioning Mest! They’ve been underrated since the beginning
Ridiculously relatable and nostalgic. A great explanation of the what happened from 1994 onward. Really great video!
I loved pop punk that why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
I’m 37 and still relate to Homegrown lyrics. 😬
Same! You're not alone!
@@letterfella I see what you did there.
I do too, but I'm 33.
Dude they were amazing, I dint really understand why they didnt catch on to more fame
I’m 34 and was listening to the starting line today!
As an old dude who wouldn't have survived the disco hell of the late 70's if I hadn't discovered the Ramones, Sex Pistols and New York Dolls, I couldn't have been happier with the rise of pop punk in the late 90s. I taught my son how to play guitar during that time, and it was one of the coolest times of my life being able to play fun, fast music with him; learning and playing songs by MxPx, the Ataris and many more while sharing the punk tunes I grew up on. Great video - I still listen to a lot of these bands.
Love that attitude!
TOTALLY!: check out my amateur pop-punk tune: ua-cam.com/video/VU8sHhojhas/v-deo.html
I loved pop punk that why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
I'm happy for two things:
a. discovering your channel
b. the fact that you mentioned Fenix Tx! Definitely an underrated band with great songs.
Keep up the great work!
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
So glad I found your channel. Totally validated my music experience over the last 2+ decades
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
Can't believe you forgot this band....AND THAT BAND
And that other one!!! That i actually did mention
normie lmao jk
Oh no, you even forgot that band my older brothers friend played with that's only well known in my city that one had a slight hit on Alternative radio in like 2002 that nobody remembers
cant wait till this new trend of mainstream music dies, excited for whatever comes next.
I mean if you think about it "Mainstream" will always be a trend by default.
Lo-fi mumble rap is starting to become mainstream. The sad boy music, its horrifying
A Rock agreed.
Benjamin Wadley that’s what I said
The Lawnmower Ix. 091 bro let’s be honest maybe if actual effort was being put into modern rock, punk, and metal then what you call “emo rap” wouldn’t have to step in. I fucking love punk rock but I’ve seen maybe three total good new bands pop up in the last decade and don’t even get me started on the state of metal.
I seriously came into music with Pop-Punk and I will forever love Simple Plan for that. I loved your video. I'm going to watch all your other videos tonight
First off, I love your content. Unbiased and true to the music. My only requiem to the later years of pop punk that you didn’t touch on, at least in this video, I plan to watch many more… Was the New Jersey/ New York involvement in melodic hardcore!! Bands like Kid Dynamite, Paint It Black, Lifetime, basically all bands with Dan Yemen, was such a huge influence for my love of what I consider pop punk! Not to mention bands like Daggermouth, Shook Ones, Good Clean Fun.. These guys defined a genre to me… I’d love to hear your take on Daggermouth, and or Set Your Goals! Again, I love your content, and will be watching MUCH more! Thank you!!
Thanks for watching!
it sounds like what you're saying is the pop-punkers pop punked the pop punk out of pop punk
Fuck.
@@CyferPerez777 punk*
Nice!
When we drank surge, played n64, and watched the rock vs stone cold.
good times!
And TRL every day during summer break
AUSTIN 3:16 😂
This is such a good video bro, I missed these days. I still listen to Rufio starting line homegrown Mest unwritten law. So nostalgic for me 🤙🏽
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk cause my views on youtube are insane
As a teenager td, I’m kinda sad I didn’t get to experience the pop punk era. All it takes is one hyper successful album to bring back the genre tho
WHAT KILLED POP-PUNK? "They didn't create more teenmovies so there was no need anymore for this typ of music
Ha, I guess that was its purpose.
True kkkk
Unwritten law was way underrated. 1999-2005 was right in my formative years. What a great video!
Austin Shappi agreed. I’m not sure if blink would’ve even existed without UL.
Austin Shappi You know what’s funny. I love unwritten law, but never thought of them as pop-punk. But I guess they were closer to bands like blink-182 than NOFX, Lagwagon, or No Use For A Name(some of the bands I usually lumped them in with).
They got unfairly played off as corny, for some reason. Still dont understand
Yes they definitely were
loved allroy saves back in the day, going to give it a spin later today, thanks for the remind!
I been looking for a channel like this forever ... nice!
I’m gonna say part of why the second pop of pop punk didn’t blow up is because we live in an era where culture isn’t homogenized. Back in the 90s, you didn’t have Spotify or the internet to stream music. If you were a band, you NEEDED a label to get your music out there. Either that or hustle mad hard touring on your own selling physicals in every down. Everyone knew the same music because everyone listened to the radio and everyone got their music from stores like FYE or local record stores.
Now, in the 2010s, stores like FYE don’t exist because nobody has to rely on them to find new music. Nobody listens to the radio they listen to what is on Spotify or what they can stream. Now normies will play what Spotify tells them which is what’s popular for the most part, but people who are in the “alternative” have a world of bands putting out their own music that’s equally as accessible as Any top artist these days are, and there’s so many bands and artists doing that, where do you even begin? Music has become so personal. Labels aren’t really necessary anymore with the internet, I think if we had the same conditions as the 90s (aka no internet) we would’ve had some label invest in newer pop punk bands
ALSO piggybacking on homogenized culture, in the 90s and early 2000s you had things like bands being featured in movies and tv shows that spread their popularity, but now with the internet and streaming culture, kids don’t go home and watch MTV or Nickelodeon and come back talking about the new episode they saw. Now they stream what’s on Netflix or whatever other platform. You can choose to watch whatever so shows aren’t a thing everyone watches unless they’re the big ones. And with everyone obsessed with reboots, we aren’t really getting original shows that EVERYBODY and their mother watches, we just have a bunch of semi-successful shows and movies that a good amount of people see
Wow sorry for the paragraphs haha
Ska Tune Network there absolutely was the internet in the 90s along with stream services like limewire and Napster.
MP3 than Napster started in 99 though and than limewire but I think limewire was 00s
But I’m just messing with you and know what you mean
I loved those times. Those times was a much better time
Lilly And Dans Beard Product Reviews yeah hahaha I meant the internet as we know it at least. Or internet culture. I remember the struggle of Napster and limewire to find music
Ska Tune Network lmao I remember how it took literally what seemed like days to download something and that was if someone didn’t call your house phone and kick you off your dial up internet lmao
Scrolling down the page to get it to refresh faster hahaha
AOL chat lmao
Man kids just don’t know the struggle haha
Ska Tune Network for the record my fav band (it’s a three way tie) is sublime.
I know some don’t consider it true ska
It isn't dead. It's very well alive inside. 🤘
In our hearts :')
@@siegpasta that's right!
@@shawnkurtisTV 🤘🤘🤘
@Stop speeding try listen to Neck Deep. They are good band..
Stop speeding Teenage Bottlerocket, The Bombpops, Masked Intruder, Off With Their Heads, The Loved Ones.
Pop punk was my first musical true love, thanks to my older brothers showing me the way. I still listen to it to this day (in my 30s) cause it gives me a sense of wholesomeness and nostalgia of the days of being a pre-teen listening to it, and reminds me of simpler times just screwing around with my friends and having fun
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
Oh man ! Thise were the days haha, I haven't thought about Rufio in about 10 years, so thank you for the reminder
"generation grew up and switched over to hardcore and indy rock" nailed it man
Soundcloud rappers couldn't figure out power chords on guitar, so they sample songs from bands that only used power chords, and mumble rap over it. These are dark times we live in...
Kudos for talking about Cynic in your videos! Cheers.
Power chords are one of the easiest things on guitar. I'm pretty sure anyone who plays for a week or two can play them.
guitarplayer203 That wasn’t their point. Regardless of one’s tastes in music, it is simply a fact that contributing to the world of SoundCloud Rap et al takes notably less effort and ‘DIY ethic’ than the likes of Pop-Punk or Hardcore, if not any style that requires acoustic instruments, for that matter.
Yeah it's some pretty rubbish music imo. There is a legit study though that proved music is getting objectively worse the more it evolves into newer genres.
@Tre West x stole stole some from adtr the song sad melody sounds similar to one of adtr old song.
I seriously had to stop and get a pen and paper, you just gave me so much more new music. The golden years were my time in punk. Then I found metal...but with everything you have played in this video, I have to listen to more.
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk cause my views on youtube are insane
I'm 36, and I choose music that I love not because it was popular or hype at the time. There are many bands from some genres I like over time and then I suddenly stopping my hobbies to listening, searching and even playing music because I finally graduate from college and busy at work and have family, but this video has just brought back memories about the old times.
I still listen to No use for a name until now and I really love this Belvedere frontman Steve Rawles's side project called This Is A Standoff in recent years.
I think rock music will never burn out. It‘s just too authentic. Picking up a guitar, writing a song about how you feel, showing that song to a drummer or a bassist. Getting creative together and giving your creativity and personality into THAT song. And it gets even more authentic from there.
Pop-punk is where I feel at home. That is all that matters 💛
Remind me of my youth time, when the world is still kind lol
Hahaha I'm 32 and still listening to alot of these bands daily. Especially the likes of The Offspring, Sum 41 and Blink
NFG went to my highschool in 04/05 The whole band signed the random shirt I was wearing, best show I will always remember.
Its funny how at the time I loved NOFX, Lagwagon, No Use For a Name, etc. But hated Green Day and Sum 41. Its like Fat Mike hypnotised us all into believing anything popular must be bad. I still dont necessarily like those bands, but I can definitely see how they share the same DNA with some of my favorites.
Exactly
Leo Harper everyone I knew with this mindset back in the day is now in Antifa, working part time at Starbucks with a useless PhD in Lesbian Dance Theory.
@@dasenase Well Im an engineer working for DoD. So I guess I bucked the trend.
in 95' i was at a punk/skin bbq and watched two "hardcore punks" argue about a germs symbol painted on a jacket and talk about hair gel. I later asked if anyone was going to see Rancid next week, and they acted like I was the lamest square on earth. I clearly remember the show and pit being amazing and not giving one shit about how popular they had become.
if you cant hear/see a difference between Lagwagon and Sum 41...
A complete, comprehensive video with some outstanding analysis. Finn never disappoints, man.
Nate The Mate you never disappoint either Nate!
You never disappoint me
Oh btw you forgot to mention Grayscale's actual first album 'Leaving' in your video on them, Just putting that out there.
Zechariah Angel love you mate
You'll be the next Jarrod Allonge.
Look at you chronicling my childhood and teen years lol. Feeling so nostalgic!
trying to start a poppunk band in the late 00s was so difficult when all your friends wanted to play metal/metalcore
Another great one man. As a twist for a future episode, instead of "what killed..." would be interesting to get a "what will kill..." - You've gone deep enough on so many genres and their fall from grace, it would be interesting to develop a video on your hypothesis on what will kill a genre that is peaking right now (rap as an example [it won't die obviously, but it'll make way for something else]). 10/10 again finny!
That's a sick idea
I like where your head is at man!
Rap definitely not. But I can see trap peaking.
Being born in 94 I definitely was spoiled with pop punk golden age and also metalcore on the rise. Love both genres
90 here. 03-08 was some of the greatest times of my life and all my memories had these tracks in the background.
Ty Bradshaw 90 as well, god I miss good music. Now it’s about fucking bitches and taking drugs....
Born in 95 and yeah, I listened to all the metalcore, pop punk (especially easycore) and post hardcore. I still listen to it for nostalgia and makes me super happy.
You can remember the golden age while being an infant?
@[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] Haha blows my mind that kids born in the mid 90s think they experienced pop punk and the like, they were literally babies shitting in their dipers
MxPx Life in General literally changed life. (When they changed from more skate-punk to pop-punk)
Two specific thanks
1) love the shoutout for Transit
2) the NFG Hardcore Sidequest - I feel like their Influence doesn’t get enough love, because you’re super correct. I was all about the slightly heavier/moshier music that was coming out in the early 2010s
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk cause my views on youtube are insane
The early 2000s was great. I remember listening to Sum 41's song Fat Lip 😂😂
Hearing it on American Pie for the first time and thinking "HOLY FUCK I NEED THE NAME OF THE SONG AND THE BAND".
@Macro Aggressor: The Titty Baby Killer I'm too much I'm sorry😂😂😂
@Macro Aggressor: The Titty Baby Killer Yeah. Im totally aware.😂
This video is a very accurate analysis of this change in mainstream music. I’ll never understand how the early 2000’s emo Music is made fun of by kids, yet juice wrld has the same whiny vocals and even cringier emo lyrics but kids love him cause he uses a trap beat instead of guitars and drums. To me there’s not really much of a difference besides that to these seemingly different music genres.
Do not insult emo music like that
Cranky biker not meant to be an insult and personally I think the older emo is superior, but I don’t think anyone can deny the similarities between songs like I miss you by Blink and Lucid Dreams by Juice Wrld.
John Kuchler their ears dont work. Their brains dont process and understand. Deaf dumb blind n born to follow. Fuck this new generation
@@TrTriTrippin lol fuckin cry more dude
My thoughts exactly.
im learning to play drums in my 30s and my go to songs are pop punk. i get excited to play the songs because it really tests your ability and you learn alot about drum styles. to me this genre didnt really die but probably taking a hiatus and is waiting to be discovered.
Dude love your channel reminds me of my childhood growing up in the suburbs outside of Baltimore city.
I’d sneak out of my parents house, change clothes, lie saying I was going to a friends house, have my friends pick me up, we would get lost in Baltimore trying to get to a venue we haven’t been to yet.
Loved mest, homegrown and others from this era. Went to see Allister with buddies ended up taking Fall Out Boy to a shoe store.
Then having to grow up there in Maryland as Good Charlotte and All Tome Low gain traction....
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
as far as the transition from pop punk to emo, one major driving factor was the fact pop punk bands grew up as well. Blink 182's self titled was arguably a major influence on the growth of emo bands; Sum-41's Chuck and later on Underclass Hero complimented this transition too.
The All-American Rejects could serve as an example of this transition too, being associated with both emo and pop punk.
AAR's more pop rock/power pop though
I guess so. Pop-punk is all about fun and teenage reckless abandon. Once those bands grew up, they didn't relate to the genre anymore I guess. Pop-punk always reminds me of skaters, jackass show, and fun mtv music videos. Whereas emo and other genres of rock music is more relatable to a larger audience.
The simple days....when Fall Out Boy was actually good. and every teenage crush was Haley Williams. and oh man the hardcore/emo phase....Underoath?? silversteinn? Taking back sunday?? Such simple times
Its like when I was a teenager I had wished that I got to grow up in the 60s or 70s or even 80s...Now were all grown up and we have our own little piece of history to remember :) Soon kids will be saying ''maaan i wish i could have grown up in the late 90s/early 2000s...''
Hell yeah. Silverstein is still around! Shane Told is the shit, anything that dude does is gold. I can't name you one song or album that isn't fire.
I’ll never pass up a Silverstein/Underoath concert when they come around even now. I’ll miss the way shows used to be but meeting people who still jam to their music is awesome.
@@HollowOath14 I feel you. Bayside concerts are great too. It's great when you know by the time you leave you'll have a bunch of new friends.
Wdym? I still have a crush on Hayley Williams. She gets better and better as the years go on my man.
You made some great name drops Allister, Homegrown, Rufio, Fennix TX and The Starting Line are great examples of pop punk that didn't get the recognition they deserve.
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
Great to hear Fenix TX, Mest & the Starting Line get some shout outs!
Like i dont think people understand how big this genere was. It wasn't uncommon for black kids like me to have these songs in the mix with outkast 3 6 mafia and pastor troy. Tony hawk pro skater and MTV really did a good job marketing these bands. And you could see all of them on warped tour for cheap was the best part.
Best times ever honestly! I grew up in the hood but all my friends who only liked hip hop even knew the words to All Downhill From Here by New Found Glory haha pop punk was HUUUGE in the 2000s!
hahaha hell yeah, Pastor Troy
Same, a lot of my peers would sing Sum-41 randomly in class
@@eh2396 my feelings. Are we the "normals?" then the normals were the ones that made the golden age of punk, go to a NFG or TBS show and its freaking beautiful to see the mix of people. like nothing else. thats why they were cool because they were inclusive
Sum 41 has been my favorite band for 13 years now... never changed- not even in my hip hop phase. So glad they're back
Now they’re metal and show talents, silencing critics
They suck. They're a kids band. Why don't you grow up, you dork?
Le Femme Lolita how about you go listen to Chuck, and their latest album Order in decline before speaking, stupid
@@lefemmelolita4522 toxic
Le Femme Lolita oh dude you’re so cool. Stop shitting on people for enjoying things. Grow up you degenerate
I was born in 2001, definitely too late to enjoy the glory days of pop punk, however it's one of the genres I love the most. Despite being surrounded by modern rap (I don't even know how to label it anymore), I just can't get into that genre, it doesn't have nearly the same vibe to me even though its target audience is apparently the same as that of pop punk 15-20 years ago.
same
same, but i have to say- we DID grow up with this music. pop punk/rock/alt/etc were still in their prime until probably 2010, i'd say. sure, we were young, but we still had those bands and lets face it, kids are always a couple years behind what's popular so we heard those 90's and early 2000's songs that the older kids had gotten over already.
Young Blood, check out Americana by Offspring, And Out Come the Wolves by Rancid, and Third Eye Blind's self-titled debut if you haven't yet...definitely brings some context to the incredible music that follows
I was born 2001 and I grew up to hear this stuff. There was Simple Plan and Sum 41 etc. One of my favorite games as a kid in 2007, the Surf's Up game on ps2, introduced me to more pop punk.
@@garyrichmond7404 the offspring is my favorite band ever dude.
Still listening to Mest, Unwritten Law, and Rufio today at 37 years young 😁🤘
And absolutely progressed to Indie afterward while still holding onto favorite Punk bands from earlier days.
My childhood was literally blasting Sum 41, and Blink 182 while grinding in Runescape.
MEWTWO!!! Me too*
Same but blasting Offspring while grinding in Tibia
The quality of your work with these videos is absolutely fantastic! Would love to see a What Killed Ska Video
Yes brother
YES YES YES
Ska killed ska
Or better yet, how was Ska ever a thing :)
But ska isn't dead..... JK it's dead rip please do a video
I remember when good Charlotte was coming up.. and there was some awards show, I think arsenio hall hosted? but he announced good charlotte and said "and now we introduce 'good Charlotte', who is basically a knock off of blink 182. take it away guys" and I did a spit take with my beer.. it was the funniest thing I ever heard..
Omg yes it was Chris rock 😂😂 at the vmas and he said they were a rip off of greenday
Ahhhh it was an awesome time to go around 😢😢... loved that music being the mainstream... it puts me nostalgic also
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk cause my views on youtube are insane
I'm 27 and i'm still relate to Homegrown lyrics and other similar band. I think there is no age limit, the power of music also consists of this.
VanHeert92 your not alone ... see what I did there
@@riccardolucchesi4101 woah brochacho! who peed in your fish tank this morning??
@@riccardolucchesi4101 Probably yes, but it's better than being an asshole like you who accuses people without explaining reason
@@riccardolucchesi4101 Dal nome dovresti essere italiano, lo sono anch'io. Attendo con ansia una tua spiegazione, son proprio curioso di leggere quante più cazzate possibili riesci ad inventare per giustificare tale fesseria.
This is one of the best channels on UA-cam covering music. Keep up the great work.
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
Hey Finn, love your videos. This one was great and definitely brought on the nostalgia. Just wanted to ask what your thought are on Capstan. Pretty big on them now and wanted to know if they’re a band you follow at all
Man, Home Grown's Kings of Pop was an incredible album. And Allister. So glad they got a shout out. Motion City and Allister are two of my favorite bands of all time.
That really was a great album! Drive Thru Records was killing it back then. Great bands
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
Sadboy rap is the new pop-punk. Kinda makes sence.
Sense*
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] funny how we address new gens music like ho w our parents addresses ours
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] woah there, i just address how your comment sounds like how my mom would often say about the songs i listen to, no matter what genre it is unless i play something that is from her generation. i dont want a mindless word of war withyou because of some music im not interested in the first place. my advise to you listen to something that you like and stay away from videos like this it makes you passivd aggressive
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] funny how minds process things you read, i write my comments without any agenda and you interpreted it like im attacking you in any way shape or form. lol as ive said i aint gonna engage in a word of war with you, ill just enjoy my day. im not gonna try to be poetic or anything either coz that will change nothing, if you have issues with the music scene then keep it to your self weve got so much more problems than music. listen to what you like regardless of what people think of it
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] i couldve easily engage with you within this topic but i decided id rather not, not because im not knowledgable enough to share my opinion in this subject matter, i opted out for the somple reason that my comment is just as harmless as a newborn kitten that you very well manage to blow out of proportion. i wont engage you in any fancy talk about whats right or wrong. i dont even get why would you waste your time preaching to me things you stand for, for just a simple comment lol.
I honestly believe that pop punk isn’t dead yet. A lot of modern punk bands that you mentioned (i.e. TSSF, Knuckle Puck, Neck Deep, State Champs, Real Friends, With Confidence, Waterparks) came out with really good albums in 2018 that didn’t seem to stray too far from their original sound. I’ve seen more people at my high school wearing pop punk band merch and I definitely think that a lot of modern rap songs are reminiscent of old emo, punk bands.
Aqrol State Champs and With Confidence released some great music in 2018. With Confidence released a fully-plugged version of Without Me that is really good too. I’d check out Sleep On It, their album Overexposed is super good and they’re working on a new album now.
Stop speeding you’re just mad that you sit alone at lunch
Stop speeding eat a snickers
I just discovered waterparks. So good
Most of those bands are shit now, only band with a good album was TSSF. I use to be a die hard fan of knuckle puck and real friends now their music has changed and is more pop thank punk and not in a good way. Specially when going to shows they are not the same specially with all these clingy fan girls around
I totally agree I think not only will inspire new waves of bands and rappers but a collaboration or merge of the two genres