We Wasted $32,000 on our Well! - Complete Water Well Drilling Cost Breakdown

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  • In this video, we give you the complete cost breakdown for drilling our well. We also compare rainwater catchment and shallow wells to a deep drilled well.
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  • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
    @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 роки тому +17

    🔥 *WATCH OUR OFF GRID CABIN BUILD FROM THE BEGINNING* ua-cam.com/video/MGfugfuzFJk/v-deo.html

    • @liongod1000
      @liongod1000 3 роки тому

      *_ Good Grief! Here in Cape Town South Africa (Which is an arid part of the country we are limited to 100litres / day per PERSON) so you guys need to trim by having 7-minute showers etc. We are 4 at home and our yearly consumption is 40kilo litres per year and we cope VERY well but the amount of water per year you said you would need is Rediculous. Cheers! _*

    • @hildebertocarreiro9232
      @hildebertocarreiro9232 2 роки тому

      big mistake

    • @hildebertocarreiro9232
      @hildebertocarreiro9232 Рік тому

      U can use tarps to catch rain 🌧 10 ×20 ...the rivers are running dry because people not catch rain
      ..

  • @bigunone
    @bigunone 3 роки тому +24

    Everyone is an expert on the Internet. I have worked as electrician for 23 years, own my own business and carry journeyman's licenses in three states and I still get people whose only expertise is watching old This old House episodes trying to tell me how to do it!

    • @shogunofsorrow787
      @shogunofsorrow787 2 роки тому +3

      Not knocking you in any means but the irony of your first sentence and the following paragraph has me dying

  • @greenhometony
    @greenhometony 3 роки тому +23

    As a mountain design build guy for last 30 out of 40 year career, I recommend a good well, that has been drilled deeper than that place where they hit good water production. The driller will tell you this but many people don't listen. We usually drilled another 100 ft. The bore hole is also storage which is a nice extra. The other key is to use a cistern of some type, the bigger the better but large concrete in the groumd or 1000 gallon plastic or whatever variation makes sense in your area and or ability to place one or more, usually in a utility are in the house. The well pump lasts longer with this setup and the use of a jet pump and pressure tank. Jet pumps are cheap and easy to replace, a pump in a 500 ft hole is expensive to pull and replace. There are down sides to having a cistern, jet pump, pressure tank..... noise, placement etc. You can also place a smaller cheaper deep well pump in a cistern with a pressure tank in the house, there is literally no noise this way. Your deep well pump can last 30 years or more if you are running it less because of the cistern, and the deep well pump is not used to charge the pressure tank. Also easier to make sure the deep well pump cannot run dry. One other thing that makes this better is to build a way to deliver water to your cistern(s) in the case that your well pump fails or can't run for some reason. It's also a way to start out if you can't afford a well right away. Sometimes people haul their own water as well as have it delivered. Did I cover all of that, lol... Just my two cents having built and lived in the hills for over 40 years.

  • @KeepingItDutch
    @KeepingItDutch 3 роки тому +42

    Lol people get crazy in the comments. Great video explaining things brother.

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 роки тому +4

      I love seeming keeping it Dutch in the comments! Makes me feel like I’m part of the cool club. Seriously, thanks man.

    • @KeepingItDutch
      @KeepingItDutch 3 роки тому +3

      @@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving 🤣🤗💪💪

    • @ericpl7227
      @ericpl7227 3 роки тому

      There are SO MANY "smart people" on youtube that really have NO IDEA what they are talking about!

  • @RedPoppyRanch
    @RedPoppyRanch 3 роки тому +18

    Don’t read the comments...

  • @artmartin1913
    @artmartin1913 3 роки тому +11

    I never comment on anybody's videos but I had to chime in on this one. I believe you absolutely made the right choice on putting in the well. You probably increased the value of your property by more than the cost of the well. You made the right decision without a doubt!

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for taking the time to comment and for your reassurance!

  • @rayworx
    @rayworx 3 роки тому +2

    Excuse me... am I missing something? Last thing I saw was a 500ft+ drill being drilled and you've still got MUD to drink? is that right? So my thinking is yes... it's money wasted. If you don't
    have drinkable water.... it's money wasted. Yes you have a well so you can get a bank loan and.... if you sell the house/property then there IS a well. But its MUD!! Am I wrong?

  • @LiveSimpleLiveFree
    @LiveSimpleLiveFree 3 роки тому +108

    Yup, as a contractor, I can say that many people don't realize that a well and septic together sometimes can cost as much as building the house itself! You did the right thing. I watched all of the ads on this video to help you pay for it! When we build a house for someone, we NEVER include the well in the contract, or we could loose our shirts. The contract usually includes a well up to 150 feet deep, and they pay any additional cost.

    • @ZUNAKU
      @ZUNAKU 3 роки тому +3

      Yaap, me too!

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +4

      Thanks guys! Really appreciate your comment and your support! 😃

    • @ModernMountainLiving
      @ModernMountainLiving 3 роки тому +2

      @@juliejohnson9531 as a builder I always have to think resale. I always advise to not build with out having water first for the very reason lending/ resale. I walked with my driller today at our place by Priest Lake and he doubled his estimate from a year ago. Luckily our target is only 120’. Be Blessed

    • @greenhometony
      @greenhometony 3 роки тому +2

      @Elias Boudinot yes if you can haul your own water. Or a combination of catchment shallow well and hauling. There are also water delivery companies. Well, with a cistern is still best over all, but you can start out with less cash outlay.

    • @greenhometony
      @greenhometony 3 роки тому +4

      The first two things to place on a mountain lot are the septic and well, then the house. The driveway comes naturally as you have to move equipment and building materials in.

  • @michaelpizza942
    @michaelpizza942 3 роки тому +21

    I’ve seen wells like this over the years . A few things to consider doing. Before giving up on it.
    My back ground was water conditioning mainly well water. I’ve retired since but had 33 years experience. I’ve probably tested over 50k water samples and made recommendations.
    First of all the well needs to be pumped off for several days non stop once you get power to it. It needs to develop it self and pull in all the silt. I’ve seen wells run like this then clear up, but when the shut off the well pump and restart it goes dirty again.
    Need to slow down the draw rate or gpm it’s drawing. Either by putting a ball valve on the well pump line or right on your welll hydrant. Flow it to around a gallon per minute . Let it run like that for a while see the water clears up. If it does you could then pump it into a settling tank like you have already.
    I’ve seen wells that pump sub micron particles , colloidal clay (milk is colloidal particles if you would run it threw a 20 micro filter it will come out looking like milk cannot filter it) the water look like milk.
    They do make filters it’s a Ultra Filtration . But I use this as your last resort.
    Pump that well off let it develop and clean out the vanes feeding it . Hopefully you get some clarity . If you would like to talk just let me know . Just hoping to give you free advice to get you better water. People don’t realize that a well driller cannot guarantee what comes out of the ground. However you local well driller knows the aquifers better then most. Also like you did contacting your neighbors helps to know what they have.

    • @greenhometony
      @greenhometony 3 роки тому +2

      It also is dependent on where the pump is set in the well. I have seen a well that had pink water from the soft granite. Sometimes pulling the pump up 5 or 10 feet can work, or like you said pumping into a cistern through a sediment collecting filter. And then filtering again.....

    • @RSole9999
      @RSole9999 3 роки тому

      Vanes: blades on a fan or windmill. Veins: vessels to return blood to the heart or cracks in subterranean rock.

  • @Justaguy0420
    @Justaguy0420 3 роки тому +17

    Dude. I really like the way you handled this issue. No anger, no pretentious rebuttal. Class act man! “Well” done! Hahahahah

    • @goldencedi5016
      @goldencedi5016 3 роки тому +2

      I totally agree. This video was super tactful, clear, and a courtesy because you definitely didn't owe anyone an explanation. It speaks to the respect you have for your viewers! Cheers my dude!

    • @smallvulture2781
      @smallvulture2781 3 роки тому

      best thing is the actually researched it and learned who knows it might come in handy some day

  • @celsopdacunha000
    @celsopdacunha000 3 роки тому +22

    I think they meant: Take care of your own business and don't bug us.

    • @cupcakemcgee3175
      @cupcakemcgee3175 3 роки тому +1

      Haha That’s what I got from it but in a nice way. Gotta love them internet trolls that know everything.

    • @red-can-help
      @red-can-help 3 роки тому

      Yeah and if you make a comment they don't appreciate they will erase it to keep there channel nice and clean.

  • @kellyburdette6108
    @kellyburdette6108 3 роки тому +20

    Don't you just love people telling you what to do?

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +4

      It's really ok. Honestly, it's good to hear other people's ideas and opinions. 😃

    • @mikeunum
      @mikeunum 3 роки тому

      Kelly why you are here then?

  • @davidbonde2148
    @davidbonde2148 3 роки тому +10

    I think you are spot on with this video - I am building an off grid cabin in Montana. My wife said I will go anywhere with you but when I turn on the faucet I want water and I want to be able to flush the toilet. (as you know not the easiest requests when off grid) so we drilled a well early on, for us it was worth whatever it cost and if it took a lot of the budget we were willing to live with that and make changes to the cabin design to save money. Our neighbor has a very nice rain catching system, after we drilled our well they drilled one - as you said many options out there none are right or wrong.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +2

      😂 I like your wife! She and I can be friends!

  • @vansage2691
    @vansage2691 3 роки тому +27

    You did the correct improvement with the well!!! A Deep well was a solid investment and will improve your property value!! Proven systems such as deep wells can’t be beat by these other systems IMO

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for commenting today!

    • @SawmillerSmith
      @SawmillerSmith 3 роки тому +2

      I've had many deep wells drilled. They all had lots of Minerals. Once hit salt water, another time hit iron water were the water ran out red.

    • @noyopacific
      @noyopacific 3 роки тому +2

      Deep wells are great where there is good quality water in a water-bearing geologic formation. Drilled wells are not the best choice for every situation.

    • @speedbuggy16v
      @speedbuggy16v 3 роки тому +1

      This, I think it was the right choice if you are ever going to sell. It is an investment in the property, albeit a painful one.

    • @gqp3215
      @gqp3215 3 роки тому

      Not if you only have a quart a minute

  • @PaullaWells
    @PaullaWells 3 роки тому +111

    This is a classy way of addressing the comments and concerns of your viewers. Well done!

    • @timsmith1125
      @timsmith1125 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed. Great job explaining the numbers and reasons behind the decisions made.

    • @w3bb0y
      @w3bb0y 3 роки тому +3

      Glad you didn't call your viewers skid-marks like another channel aha

    • @Eristhenes
      @Eristhenes 3 роки тому

      Yes, well done.

    • @jkirk0750
      @jkirk0750 Рік тому

      I just saw where you replaced your well motor motor. I blew ours up. Would you be interested in selling the old one?

  • @BlueCollarDIY
    @BlueCollarDIY 3 роки тому +26

    What many of these "Facebook" and "UA-cam experts" on rainwater collecting do not understand about a well is that it will add value to your property. A rainwater collection system, not so much.

    • @ModernMountainLiving
      @ModernMountainLiving 3 роки тому +3

      I love getting comments from those that have never built in a cold climate. Rainwater collection has extra issues when the gutters rip off the house from the weight of the ice. Yes you can have heat tape, but is that what a solar system is for?

    • @fisherus
      @fisherus 3 роки тому +2

      @@ModernMountainLiving Not to mention how many chemicals, toxins and pollutants are mixed in your rainwater that need expensive filtration equipment and if you are in cold climates, it's hard to pump solid ice through your pipes.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +3

      😂 It is helpful to hear other people's opinions and experiences though!

    • @BlueCollarDIY
      @BlueCollarDIY 3 роки тому +1

      @@ModernMountainLiving Exactly!

    • @greenhometony
      @greenhometony 3 роки тому

      @@juliejohnson9531 catchment is doable if it's set up right. It can be supplemental and or great for gardening etc. It does come down to surface you collect it from and proper collection and filtration depending on use. And yes i am ome of those scruffy old (mountain) builders who learned to be less hardheaded about different ideas.

  • @jimc.1998
    @jimc.1998 3 роки тому +10

    Your response to the rain/shallow wells was extremely mature, considerate and well thought out! I sincerely wish your family much success. Jim in Virginia

  • @ernestleo6284
    @ernestleo6284 3 роки тому +12

    If you can afford the expense digging the well is worth the cost. Living off the grid is not free you may not have monthly utility bills but you have many other expenses. Digging a well, solar panels for electricity, saw mill for milling logs into lumber, lots of tools and many more items. Good luck you have a really nice home.

    • @speedbuggy16v
      @speedbuggy16v 3 роки тому

      This, alternative living is great, but it is hardly without cost.

  • @michaeld53
    @michaeld53 3 роки тому +2

    why believe the comments.? those with the least knowledge about wells, squak the most bs noise. I say choose your own path after doing your homework.

  • @murffyslaw001
    @murffyslaw001 3 роки тому +9

    Let's put this into perspective, folks. In the small town I live in, the average monthly city water bill is about $120/month, averaged over 12 months. $33k well cost will pay for itself in 25-28 years. With no usage restrictions! So, added property value, unrestricted water usage, and peace of mind: priceless.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +2

      I like the way you explained this!

    • @runningwild1055
      @runningwild1055 3 роки тому +1

      In Florida we even have restrictions on the use of well water.

    • @davej7458
      @davej7458 3 роки тому +1

      Another variable is how much water the well can produce and how much Homestead use do you have in addition to your family use. Animals, gardens and young trees can use quite a bit of water the payback time for that well might be reduced quite a bit.

  • @paulpek6616
    @paulpek6616 3 роки тому +6

    I beleve you made the right call. when you use shalow well,rain, or surface water you have to filter out bird droping from the roof. geradea from surface water incuding shalow wells. I helped a friend with his sitern and there were 4 mice in it. yum

  • @alexwilson7555
    @alexwilson7555 3 роки тому +9

    Great videos. Sorry to hear there are so many haters regarding the well. Here's a POTENTIAL SOLUTION to your well issue... create a slow sand filter using 4 large tote bins and use the well to refill your main water reserves. It's not ideal as the filtration process does take time. But I'm sure you can scale it up. I've done experiments in my classroom using just a bottle, but larger scale sand filters are very very effective. The 4 bin system allows you to maintain the bin that collects the glacial flour while having less maintenance on the other bins. Slow sand filters have been used in Africa to create potable water in some of the most polluted water sources. Anyways, look into it.

  • @samiam7125
    @samiam7125 3 роки тому +6

    I work at at water district 1100 ft wells said and done with a vertical turbine is about a million dollars with 1500 gals a minute . your well is a good deal metal casing and all good job

  • @butchpark6589
    @butchpark6589 3 роки тому +6

    You Sir DID NOT WASTE ANYTHING ON YOUR WELL !
    DO WHATS BEST FOR YOU! AND WHAT WHATEVER MAKES YOUR FAMILY HAPPY.....
    I SAY YOU DID A GOOD JOB!
    BUTCH ,ASHLAND, OHIO

  • @ronguin7062
    @ronguin7062 3 роки тому +12

    See? you guys are way more thoughtful and eloquent than I am. Personally I would have posted a comment on their comment that read something like " That's because you're an idiot who has NO clue what you're talking about." But you just softly explained to them they are idiots in a way that makes them happy to be one. Outstanding.

    • @dper1112
      @dper1112 3 роки тому +1

      Of course there are some trolls, and then there are some people who write without thinking, but there are other people who write without watching much of the series. If you don't know the details of the Johnson family's setup and needs, you could easily mention a water source that works fine but not in this situation.

  • @theodorecharles635
    @theodorecharles635 3 роки тому +6

    When we bought our acreage the real estate agent was really clear about the fact that it had no water. There was an existing well, but all it produced was black stinking water that you couldn't even use for the toilet. There was no point trying to drill another well as there was no history of good water in the area. You could spend a lot of money, but with no guarantee that you were ever going to get potable water. We had a good rainwater collecting setup that was able to supply the animals and the garden, but for everything else we had to haul it in. After three years of doing that we saved up enough cash to get hooked up to the county water system, at a cost of $20,000. It only gives us 2gpm but it was a life changer. We would easily get that money back if we went to sell the place.

  • @larryag99
    @larryag99 3 роки тому +2

    Lot of comments saying it will add to your property value. No doubt whatsoever about that... but will it add 33k ? Doubtful, but it needed to be done.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      I can appreciate your comment. It definitely makes it more appealing. 😃

  • @williambates6811
    @williambates6811 3 роки тому +7

    How about an update on water quality? Has the water quality improved with time?

  • @ryanmcgowan3061
    @ryanmcgowan3061 3 роки тому +2

    The $32,000 was definitely not wasted. It went into the home. It's equity. You just moved money from liquid assets and put it into a tangible asset. The same would not be true for rainwater or a shallow well. There are a lot of people with lots of opinions and no experience on UA-cam in making things work in the real world. Rainwater collection is not feasible for potable water. It's only useful as gray water, and in most cases can be harvested passively just by routing impervious area drainage into rain gardens instead of letting it flow off site, costing $0.

  • @martinnoboa4354
    @martinnoboa4354 3 роки тому +9

    Hei you guys did the right thing! We've done the same, here in Norway, was expensive, but it totally worth it. But I would like to see a video on the filter, as your water seems to be full of minerals too! For us that was another 4 thousand dollars + the lab analysis + installation ,

  • @JohnPaul-ts8dq
    @JohnPaul-ts8dq 3 роки тому +6

    It’s your property and home, you did the right thing by drilling the well. It’s your money. 👍👍

  • @rhett7337
    @rhett7337 3 роки тому +9

    With the well, it is possible to have a large garden, a small pasture and maintain a green space around the house for fire protection.

  • @timhale501
    @timhale501 3 роки тому +2

    Where we live in southern Idaho near the Snake River we only had to drill 50 ft and our sand screen was $ 5,ooo. I have hit surface water as shallow as 3 ft when digging with my backhoe. when neighbors are irrigating near by fields. we know ahead of time what the aproximat depth will be. Around here a lot of old houses use "sand Point" A pointed end on a pipe with a screen that you pound into the ground. same problem tryin to sell a house with out a certified well

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      That's really amazing that you were able to dig so shallow!

  • @RiggerBrew
    @RiggerBrew 3 роки тому +9

    Excellent breakdown... I can say, that in order for me to use my VA Home Loan, it required the Well with an EPA water test, utility Power and Septic inspection.

  • @daveenyart
    @daveenyart 3 роки тому +7

    Drilling the well was the best option. Good for resale.

  • @jimdavenport4484
    @jimdavenport4484 3 роки тому +8

    A lot of people just don’t understand that off grid basically means off the power grid. When ever you can do something in life fist class go for it. Love watching your videos and watching you improve your property with every project.

  • @raymondfolsom5859
    @raymondfolsom5859 3 роки тому +9

    I think most of us that watch your channel like to see how things are going in YOUR dream building world. Its encouraging to see people (families) fulfilling their dreams and being creative doing it. People are different (thank God) and so will their preferences.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +3

      Right? There are so many different ways to build and live. I'm excited that we have the choice to choose ourselves.

  • @juliussigurorsson3509
    @juliussigurorsson3509 3 роки тому +25

    Making the homestead eligible for mortgage.... best investment EVER! Change it from overgrown cabin in the woods to sturdy homestead and farm. Well done!

  • @desmondleroux3444
    @desmondleroux3444 3 роки тому +5

    Coming from a dry country like South Africa, I can tell you, all I see is water all around him, rain water tanks, will be enough, if he nee more roof surface for more water, just create more, we use sheets of roofing around the property with separate tanks, each roofing on poles, with a tank under the the roof, to protect from evaporation

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 роки тому

      Sure it can be enough. Humans only need about a gallon a day. But that is not how we want to live. If other do that is great for them. I hope they love it.

    • @mike4181
      @mike4181 3 роки тому

      Just a small dam on a down the hill string of water, with a good filter and a 24v solar pump. Cheap and Simple, and it collects waaay more water all year than a roof....-

  • @secretlake5528
    @secretlake5528 3 роки тому +6

    Trust me you did the right thing for full-time living on the property
    No thin the trees for fire prevention

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +2

      Right! Sometimes I wish we were robots and could work non stop. Seems like there is so much to do!

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 3 роки тому

      @@juliejohnson9531 that's what people are for, and used to be, one's own grown children.

  • @jerrygilliam7349
    @jerrygilliam7349 3 роки тому +7

    I deeply appreciate your thoughtful reply to your commenters. Very informative. We went through similar thought processes regarding our property developement. We have an ample supply of water without a well but finding a lender who will accept the use of surface water, and persuading the county to issue an occupancy permit for a new home utilizing surface water is virtually impossible, even if we added a cost prohibitive filtration system. And, developing a shared well for our adjacent parcel is such a regulatory headache, I'll be drilling 2 wells. If you live somewhere where you can get away with not drilling a well, I'm all for it. But we're not in such a place. Keep the great vids comin!

  • @SamuelLarsonAdventures
    @SamuelLarsonAdventures 3 роки тому +5

    1. You don’t catch rain water in the north 2. Shallow well requires a spring or specific water table. Most places can’t get away with a shallow well. Silly yt commenters 😆

    • @th0r615
      @th0r615 3 роки тому

      What’s the reasoning for #1?

    • @jawtooth963
      @jawtooth963 3 роки тому

      Springs and wells are 2 different things. Shallow wells don't meet current codes. Most states require at least 25 feet of solid casing on a well before you have water intake such as a screen. Springs are very difficult to get safe water sample results unless you have a disinfection device such as a chlorinator. Why do you say "You don't catch rain water in the north"? We use cisterns in Ohio without any problems other than routine maintenance. One more thing, obviously wells require a "specific water table". Silly yt commenters. SMH

  • @ACO-Amy
    @ACO-Amy 3 роки тому +7

    Always people telling others what's best for them. lol
    You did the right thing!

  • @billwilson1916
    @billwilson1916 3 роки тому +5

    I agree with y'all, it was the right decision for you, just as it will be the right decision for my property in Alaska that I'll start developing later this summer! My buddy Jim is going to try to do rainwater collection on his part of the property. I wish him the best...

  • @tonyacosta3918
    @tonyacosta3918 2 роки тому +1

    This couple..ha, something else. Collect rain 💧 water how. ? When they're so rounded by snow..!!
    Plus the guy is making number's up in the " AIR " about how much 🌧 rain comes down.
    When in " REALETY" we never know what " NATURE WILL DO."
    I think this guy has IT all twisted 🤔..!!
    😄 haha good luck. Collecting the rain..I can almost see him running around with a bucket 🪣 trying to catch the water..
    😄 🤣 haha

  • @jamespayne8781
    @jamespayne8781 3 роки тому +6

    You can still do the rain water collection. If the well fails to live up to your needs collected water can fill in the needs.

    • @noyopacific
      @noyopacific 3 роки тому

      How much experience have you had collecting rain water James?

    • @jamespayne8781
      @jamespayne8781 3 роки тому +4

      @@noyopacific some. Currently I have a couple 100 gal tubs under the downspout of my shop building. At one point I used a 1500 gallon tank but that has been repurposed. However I designed the roof from the beginning to funnel all the water to two points of the roof for collecting. There are gutters at those two locations. There’s a one inch high roof edge called gravel guard that prevents water from flowing off the roof anywhere else. If I collect water from every roof available it will produce 1100 gallons per one inch of rain. However I’ve yet to install the prerequisite plumbing to carry the water to a storage tank. Here in the desert we get perhaps six inches of rain a year. To collect it all would require a sizable cistern. Maybe some day.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      good idea to have another water source!

  • @ralphthomas5448
    @ralphthomas5448 3 роки тому +1

    wow they sure burned you folks no rock drilling max cost $22.00 per ft sorry folks

  • @thefrasers2073
    @thefrasers2073 3 роки тому +4

    Our well is 330' and real hard water. 4 neighbours have shallow wells, all plagued with bacteria from runoff and in arid times they truck in water, pour it in their well and use it until it seeps away. Good choice Marty!

    • @KrustyKlown
      @KrustyKlown 3 роки тому +1

      LOL... you could sell water to your 4 neighbors and pay for your well.

  • @k2000b
    @k2000b Рік тому +1

    wow what a rip.. I paid 30.00 per foot 4in casing pipe @ 250ft + 850.00 sand screen was just under 9K here in Summerfield, FL but on the other hand you could be in high rollers area too .. my water line starts at 27ft reason was to get a little bit better water

  • @tonandmarc
    @tonandmarc 3 роки тому +7

    you do a good job of explaining things. you guys a true teachers best part is you did not take offence at the comments or at least you did not act like it like the other youtubers do.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! We work really hard to make our videos both entertaining and helpful. Really appreciate your comment today! 😃

  • @falcon02012
    @falcon02012 3 роки тому +1

    500 feet well should cost no more than $12000 . My father-in-law paid last year for 600' well $13000

  • @azactor
    @azactor 3 роки тому +5

    Geez, I thought my water was expensive in my Arizona, tract-home neighborhood. Even if I were to spend $50/mo. (which I don't), it would take me living here for over 56 years to reach your $34k.

    • @at347est
      @at347est 3 роки тому

      That wasn't the point. Being able to sell was the point , and could very well get the $32k back ,

  • @tomekbudzioch1063
    @tomekbudzioch1063 3 роки тому +1

    Hi guys, I just get in to your chanel and haven;t read all the comments. I had same problem with my well. I spent much more money than I expected (like 3 times more) and at the end the water the water turned out to be unfit for drinking. I had to buy specialy designed system to make it drinkable (adapted exactly to the pollutants we have in our water) - it was the only solution. It cost about 1200 $ in Poland - which is quite a lot of money here. This system makes very good water and maintenance cost about 15 a month. If you already spent so much money for drilling the well such system seems be the good solution for you to. BTW: I love your place and way how you treat your life there! Good luck guys!

  • @RosaStringWorks
    @RosaStringWorks 3 роки тому +9

    Everyone is an expert. Pay no attention to the armchair experts.

  • @misurefiney1
    @misurefiney1 Рік тому +1

    Rain water will have chemicals in it from Chemtrails. Well water in naturally filtered.

  • @redbud815
    @redbud815 3 роки тому +5

    Nobody in their right mind, if was able to pick from having their own well for safe or reliable water source vs praying to the weather Gods that it will be a great rain catching year (not that that even matters when the math was already done and shows rain catchment would barely cover 50% of the yearly water needs), would say no to a well.

  • @darrellcaruk8880
    @darrellcaruk8880 3 роки тому +5

    the questions are.
    How much research did you do before you decided to drill your well. I noticed on the well drilling link your drillers had to ask neighbours how deep, 3 or 4 days after they started drilling ?
    How many estimates did you get for drilling ?
    What is the quality of your water from that well ?
    How far are you from a town/city to get water delivered for a simple cistern ?

    • @darrellcaruk8880
      @darrellcaruk8880 3 роки тому +2

      I noticed you tried a above ground holding tank. that will be good for warmer conditions. Can you not install a underground holding Tank with a pump and a pressure tank.

    • @darrellcaruk8880
      @darrellcaruk8880 3 роки тому +4

      Im curious how good the water is out of the deep well. watched the video on it after you installed the pump, left it at pumping brown water. is it still pumping brown water and you filtering it. ??????????????????????
      I admire all the work you guys are putting into your home.

  • @JeffRashcom
    @JeffRashcom 3 роки тому +3

    We can't believe the cost! Is that typical for your area? We are in North Carolina. We just got our well in December and it was only $6500 total. 165 feet deep, 1 hp pump, and 44 gallon tank. Even if we went 500 feet like you it would only have been $3000 more.

    • @gregggriffith4386
      @gregggriffith4386 3 роки тому

      I have a suspicion that the cost is a bit inflated due to a huge influx of people in that area. In SW Washington, the cost is around $35/ft. With pump and everything, I had one drilled for a customer for around $4000. Depth was around 75’. Cost of living in the west does tend to be higher than in the SE. Wages tend to track with cost of living.

    • @redbovine
      @redbovine 3 роки тому

      Yea. I live in NC. 10k for a well is normal for my area at 500 ft.

  • @LatchkeyKidX
    @LatchkeyKidX 3 роки тому +1

    If i could do it over, a well would have been the first thing we did. You guys easily recouped your investment in added property value.

  • @stormmountain2521
    @stormmountain2521 3 роки тому +4

    The only thing I worried about is weather the water cleared up. And that the well is not filling up with glacial till. Please let us know. We have been through this ourselves. It was not a good experience.

  • @MP-ef6mc
    @MP-ef6mc 3 роки тому +1

    Red poppy ranch finds the hardest way possible to do something then he takes the longest time possible to do it. So.... I don’t think you wasted $33k at all.

    • @et5222
      @et5222 3 роки тому

      RPR are the masters at making the simple look difficult; because making the simple seem easy doesn't get views : ) Example- ploughing 4" of snow with a good truck and snow plow is pretty easy, boring work. Doing that and having the truck break down is interesting. If you really want to see this in the exteme go to Life Uncontained house build.

  • @BigCountrySo-CaL619
    @BigCountrySo-CaL619 3 роки тому +5

    That’s how much wells cost, even out here in California, and we usually have to go deeper than 500, some people I know have gone 1200 feet to get water.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +2

      Yikes! 1200 feet is so deep!

    • @davidsine4390
      @davidsine4390 3 роки тому

      And the deeper the well, (static water level), the more it costs to pump. And California has some of the highest electric prices in the nation.

    • @BigCountrySo-CaL619
      @BigCountrySo-CaL619 3 роки тому

      @@davidsine4390 Some places up here in San Diego East mountain community, that’s how far some places have to go to get water.

  • @SawmillerSmith
    @SawmillerSmith 3 роки тому +4

    Lots of homes get mortgage with shallow wells. Might depend on where your at. My very first home in 1969 I sold, had a hand dug well .the house has been sold many times and it still has the hand dug well for water to the house. I've built new homes that I've sold that had nothing more than a spring that all I did was add a spring box to. I like the spring water better. It's cheaper than a drill well and doesn't have all the Minerals. The minerals can make drilled well water costly. For example hitting salt water in a drilled well.

    • @notsure7874
      @notsure7874 3 роки тому

      There are risks involed with a deep well, but done right - it's the most trouble / maintinence free way to go. A water softener isn't expensive, and if you don't go crazy like most americans using 100 gal / day / person - they're super easy to keep up with. I haven't added salt in almost 2 months now and it's still got some.

  • @jawtooth963
    @jawtooth963 3 роки тому +18

    I was an inspector for a health department for 20 years and I still have my license active. I found quite a few wrong things in your video. First, I did inspections for real estate loans everyday for rainwater catchment systems ( Cisterns ) in Ohio and as long as they are installed per code, maintained properly and the water test is safe, they can be approved for loans, at least in Ohio. Dug wells, no not a chance since all they are is surface water. That diagram that you had for the dug well would never pass our inspections for several reasons. The main reasons it wouldn't pass is because it is not deep enough and you have the gravel going all the way almost to the surface of the ground. That is basically surface water catchment which is full of bacteria and contaminants. In our state you have to have at least 25 feet of solid casing, grouted with a solid cap extended at least a foot above the ground. Your numbers on the average water use are high but I know that came from the EPA and they tend to exaggerate everything. I had to check peoples water use all the time and never came up with those type numbers. One thing to remember though, is that people on private water systems tend to be more conservative with their water and they don't fill swimming pools with them. You could also consider installing a hauled water storage tank although it is a pain having to pay for trucked in water at 2 thousand to 3 thousand gallons at a time depending on the size of tank on the truck. I just found your site today and I was curious as to what type of household sewage system you installed. I inspected those also.

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 3 роки тому

      all that snow... unless they have little rain in summer, seems they could do a large catchment system but they only seem to think it could be " on top of the roof" lol.

    • @johnallen2832
      @johnallen2832 3 роки тому

      There off grid just because of government people like you

    • @TheRPJ3
      @TheRPJ3 7 місяців тому +1

      A well constructed comment by a person that is legitimately educated in the subject is a rarity, and for that I thank you.

    • @jayb.8460
      @jayb.8460 6 місяців тому

      She is a woman so you know. Best just to ignore them till super is ready.😉

  • @knowledgethroughlearning1826
    @knowledgethroughlearning1826 3 роки тому +1

    Sorry know about this , I should not challenge latest technology of borewell drilling , Its only a suggestion still to find the underground water stream in your land , please find an Indian he will only tell you how ground water stream is identified by few blessed people , The person will come with two sticks makes a triangular hold formation and will search and identify suitable place to borewell ,this may be weird but till today in India it is practiced and succeeded , you may not believe one of my fried does it as a social work.
    All the best for future work good going.

  • @matthewanderson7766
    @matthewanderson7766 3 роки тому +5

    Drilling a well is way better that any other way you did a great thing

  • @FastEddy396
    @FastEddy396 2 роки тому +1

    You guys totally did the right thing. We are in central Virginia and you want a deep well.

  • @AnAlaskaHomestead
    @AnAlaskaHomestead 3 роки тому +3

    Getting 90 inches a year and being it’s just my wife and I, rain catchment was our best option. Also the fact that we live on a remote island with no public services getting a standard load is very difficult.
    It really boils down to what’s best for you area and what meets your needs.

  • @johnnorris9874
    @johnnorris9874 3 роки тому +1

    yep, we bought a few acres in the rockies, and we made the decision after camping their our first year that before we do anything structurally for a shelter/house, we need a driveway, a well, and a septic. One, down, 2 to go. We have a nice tent though for short stays. Thank God for the driveway, cuz the walk up and down to that site over the course of a weekend will wear this flatlander out. Love yer vids Man!

  • @williamgreen6889
    @williamgreen6889 3 роки тому +4

    Again, When we had our well drilled, the plumber told us to run our water for a week. The well driller also pumped quit a bit of clean water down the well, to create a pocket down there. Running the water pump for a week cleared up our dingy water. It worked for us. We now have beautiful clean great tasting water. Its worth a try.

  • @DeanJohnson67
    @DeanJohnson67 3 роки тому +5

    wow the cost per foot seems high since you guys dropped the pump and did the "hookup part" ...... here we charged $15-25$ per foot if it was a drill and casing only job based mostly on casing size! ....but I'm sure it's inline with the avg costs there! But ya it can be quite the expense!

    • @astrong1984
      @astrong1984 3 роки тому +1

      Also keep in mind, I think they needed up going to like 650 ft then backing out. I think that was included in their price per foot.

    • @DeanJohnson67
      @DeanJohnson67 3 роки тому

      @@astrong1984 ya! having had to do that a few times myself it all adds up!

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому

      Possibly just different because of our area. 😃

    • @DeanJohnson67
      @DeanJohnson67 3 роки тому

      @@juliejohnson9531 ya I'm sure it's geographic's based !

  • @calpi1
    @calpi1 3 роки тому +7

    Plus, when you started the well you didn't know how deep you would have to go and the related cost.. it would have been a much easier calculation if you found water at 200'. Great job on you home.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      That is so true! We didn't know what was going to happen.

    • @bayareaartist999
      @bayareaartist999 3 роки тому +3

      they had the data from a neighbors well that showed that they needed to drill about 600 feet to hit the water they wanted. Am I the only one who has watched the other videos? I would assume that there was a fixed basic cost and then the per foot was added on top of that.

  • @jckhammer
    @jckhammer 2 роки тому +1

    Classic example of typical you tube superstars who are fairly quick to slap the keyboard keys and mash out the advice without even thinking past their nose . My farm property had a shallow well and some summers with low rainfall I was running into issues to ration or haul water to pour into it. I said no more and drilled a deep well and never looked back. Classy way of addressing this . Kudos.

  • @frankthorpe3160
    @frankthorpe3160 3 роки тому +4

    It's only a waist if it isn't being used.

    • @Arnd2it
      @Arnd2it 3 роки тому +1

      @Frank Thorpe Sit-ups will reduce your waist and are not a waste of time.

  • @jeffreyburke2253
    @jeffreyburke2253 3 роки тому +2

    No you did not waste your funds👍👍

  • @sreekumarUSA
    @sreekumarUSA 3 роки тому +3

    021321/0521h PST. Thank you and good day to you all. Sir, I am extremely sure that you are quite intelligent and clever and would have consulted many many companies and gathered all info towards drilling for potable water.
    Please don’t be bothered about what people talk........ People always talk..... that’s how it is....cheers, best wishes stay safe and Bless you and the family. 73s...

  • @kiasmine
    @kiasmine 3 роки тому +1

    Your water pump....what brand and model is it? That’s a great price and I’m looking for one. Thx

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      We bought it at North 40. Maybe Martin remembers the brand.

  • @larrymoore6640
    @larrymoore6640 3 роки тому +4

    Sounds like you looked into all your options including talking with your neighbors before drilling the well. No body knows for sure about how deep a good water source would be. You did what you thought was the best option, never second guess yourself.

  • @davep1445
    @davep1445 3 роки тому +1

    I don't want this to seem condescending , but anyone saying you should have dug a shallow well, or rainwater collecting is showing thier ignorance of the situation. What does a person do in the June/July/August months when there is no rain? RPR dug a shallow well next to a creek, I'd hope he was able to hit water. NOT hapenning here in N. Idaho, and I don't remember seeing a creek on the Martin Homestead. Just because someone somewhere was able to do it, doesn't mean someone could have the same results 500 feet away. You guy's did good, my well is 600 feet deep, drilled by the same Co.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому

      Yes, we are all in different situations. So true!

  • @jrodjeremyflanigan7935
    @jrodjeremyflanigan7935 3 роки тому +4

    We have a existing well. It’s a nice source for constant never ending water supply!! You guys did right!

    • @mhwp3286
      @mhwp3286 3 роки тому

      It ends. My well gets low in low rain seasons. People have to stop thinking it's a never ending party.

  • @HazardWolfCorp
    @HazardWolfCorp Рік тому +1

    oof, that company shafted yall, many well drillers ive had run ins with charge less than 20 dollars a foot drilled and have pretty low fixed costs, an average well that deep should be less than 15 grand

    • @TicklerDude
      @TicklerDude Рік тому +1

      I have property in Colorado. I was quoted $65K for a well, and they don't guarantee water on the first drilling. Each additional drilling would cost an additional $10K

  • @MrPabco
    @MrPabco 3 роки тому +3

    There will always be "naysayers" (especially on the internet). You guys did your homework and did the right thing. Not that those options were "bad", but, like everything, they have there place, benefits and limitations. Guiding principal - "Always think about resale..." Your place looks great. Enjoy.

  • @John-Adams-Can
    @John-Adams-Can 3 роки тому +1

    It more matters about your over-all budget and future plans. Personally I would put that $33K into something that pays me each day but we have 10,000 lakes around here to draw from including a large pond on the back of our property. For your area, like you said it may be "well" worth it.

  • @stevecharles7967
    @stevecharles7967 3 роки тому +3

    Interesting video. Here in Australia, the majority of people in rural areas collect rain water. A bore is way too expensive for many. Our annual rainfall is similar to yours and this keeps 3 tanks equaling 41,000 imperial gallons full for most of the year. In fact, I could fill them twice over. Although there are only two of us living here, that is enough water to keep us going for 3 years or more if there were a drought, but that is unlikely to happen here. We have a lot of water in stock, but it is there in case of bush fire. i have fitted the house and outbuildings with sprinklers and there are multiple fire hoses. It is a pity your regulations prevent the use of rainwater tanks.

  • @bobbysilver272
    @bobbysilver272 3 роки тому +1

    If you are going to live in the middle of no where, you can't expect to use the same amount of water as if you lived in a suburban location.

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 роки тому

      Yes you can. You can use even more if you have a good source of water. Think of large farms on wells irrigating their crops.

  • @markwilliams4525
    @markwilliams4525 3 роки тому +4

    At 32,000 dollars for a 6" steel cased well that they went that deep on and then had to pull some of the casing back out, I can't figure out how they're paying for that dr drilling rig! That dr drilling rig needs to be on some money making jobs!

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      I don't think that they particularly enjoyed digging our deep well. I hope they had easier jobs after ours. Great company with great attitudes!

    • @markwilliams4525
      @markwilliams4525 3 роки тому +1

      @@juliejohnson9531 thanks for the reply! I'm with you there! It seems like they definitely had their stuff together. I do well drilling down in Florida and definitely wouldn't mind having that particular style well rig. By the way I like how you and your husband tackle a lot of the jobs yourselves, most people won't attempt it! Keep up the good work.

    • @Xenoraffz
      @Xenoraffz 3 роки тому

      Why The casing all The way? No bedrock?

    • @vaalrus
      @vaalrus 3 роки тому

      Heh. House a mile away from mine had an oil field rig “Stop by on the way home as a favour to pop in a water well”… they were snickering at me and my skid-steer powered auger when they rolled in and figured they’d be packing up at the end of the day.
      5 days and 430 feet later, after 3 bits they had a well. Meanwhile, as I was drilling piles, I had drilled the same liner footage, but at 8” wide in two days.

  • @jeflarremore7170
    @jeflarremore7170 3 роки тому +1

    That's interesting. I would want t do the rain catchment as a backup plan or use it to supplement your well in case repairs were needed. Can't hurt. It could be used for flushing toilets.

  • @Buckswoodshop
    @Buckswoodshop 3 роки тому +4

    The well was the right thing to do. We have a well and county water.

  • @BrucesShop
    @BrucesShop 3 роки тому

    Well $33,666 dollars is not even the price of a new truck. Good for you folks. To have the modern amenities, I would rather drive a well used vehicle and live the life of a modern person. If you want to you could grab a sack of salt and an axe and head into the hills with a golden retriever and that would work OK for 1 person (probably not) but for a family in 2021 you are doing the right thing.
    Bruce

  • @thankswillie
    @thankswillie 3 роки тому +3

    do you state what the well is producing,and the depth of the water

  • @SG-uh6sw
    @SG-uh6sw 3 роки тому +1

    As long as your well is keeping you guys with water alll year round could NEVER be a waste of money

  • @peterwubs5663
    @peterwubs5663 3 роки тому +3

    If you have 2 very dry Summers.... Bye bye water catching system
    Well - spent 😎

  • @Off-Grid
    @Off-Grid 3 роки тому +1

    Sorry guys, that really sucks.

  • @ebnhahn1993
    @ebnhahn1993 3 роки тому +3

    I guess I am lucky!. We struck water at 83 feet and overall cost of my Well was $4995.00

    • @jawtooth963
      @jawtooth963 3 роки тому +1

      That is typical for southern Ohio

    • @mattlane2282
      @mattlane2282 3 роки тому

      They hit water at like 95 feet....

  • @andrewslagle1974
    @andrewslagle1974 3 роки тому +1

    You did not waste your money you need a drilled well .By drilling a proper well you have added value to your home ,you will get it back when you sell .The well is piece of mind .our small farm in ny state has 2 drilled wells one for house and one for barn and an old hand dug well we use for irrigation . A reliable source of water is a must .

  • @robertsherrick4081
    @robertsherrick4081 3 роки тому +3

    Wow thats deep!. We average about 100-200ft here on the Kenai in Alaska. I've seen 2500ft wells in New Mexico!

  • @LambeMlonyoh
    @LambeMlonyoh 3 роки тому +1

    Bikin sumur pak

  • @FelonyVideos
    @FelonyVideos 3 роки тому +3

    Your videos alerted me to this issue. Many thanks! I want my children to be able to get top dollar for my homestead, so making sure I have a solid well is now a priority.

  • @DrHarryT
    @DrHarryT 3 роки тому +1

    What really sucks is that you had to go down 500+ feet, mine is 77 feet.

  • @wallaceloper637
    @wallaceloper637 3 роки тому +4

    I can only think of one thing Fire Season that is all

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, we definitely have our work cut out for us! So much to do!