Pink Floyd FEUD Just Turned Ugly (Gilmour Vs Waters)
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- It’s been going on for decades, but the feud between Roger Waters and David Gilmour hasn’t slowed down one bit; in fact, the war of words just reached a new brutal milestone, now that family has even joined the fray! What put Another Brick in the Wall between these Pink Floyd icons? How personal did things just become?
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This video jumps all over the place and skips some of the most important info.
I will agree with that tho
GILMOURE FKYN ROCKS EVERYBODY !!!! 🤘🏼💀🤘🏼
Waters is a shitty bass player lol. DAVID IS AMAZING !!!!
I was kinda pissed yesterday over everyone dogging me for being a David fan but at this point, ITS JUST PLAIN OLE FUN OR FUNNY!!
🤘🏼💀🤘🏼. 💗. 🤘🏼💀🤘🏼
You guys have a good one ?
It’s been real but not that real.
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Kidding 😃
@@Shannon-58 PILLOCK
Because it is crap.
@@melvynobrien6193
Thank you so much you are Correct
Israel is defending Middle Eastern abortion rights.
I still think they were one of the best bands in the world whatever issues they had between themselves.
Without Gilmours guitar and vocals it's just poetry. Nobody rocks out to poetry. Gilmour is what hooked me on Pink Floyd.
Without the poetry, it's just banal and predictable blues rock. Proof: Gilmour's solo/post-Waters career; nice-sounding, sure, but like being pelted to death with cotton balls.
@@MykeLewisMusicand then you have Waters' post Floyd career. A big resounding thud. The Final Cut showed the way prior to the Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking. Now he just rehashes his glory years.
Without Roger it's just Gilmour's corny pop songs with vacuous lyrics and sometimes a decent guitar solo (though his best are on the songs Roger had a creative hand in, strangely enough) Roger's personality / songs are what hooked me to Pink Floyd.
I'm am a lifelong musician - of no great ability - who is now seventy.
Back in the day I was an absolute believer and fan of Floyd from Meddle onwards and also appreciate a lot of what went before that pivotal album - when you're twenty, stoned and tripping even Ummagumma sounds amazing.
Dave Gilmour is without doubt a an incredible guitarist and excellent musician.
But........
He is not and never was a Songwriter of any note.
With the loss of Syd, Waters stepped up and became a truly great songwriter and without that, Floyd would almost certainly have remained little more than a very popular cult band.
The four of them TOGETHER made the magic that was Pink Floyd.
Over the years I have heard gatherings of very competent musicians do live performances which almost perfectly reproduce the Floyd tracks and albums.
But those four people together WROTE those songs and music and that is the very hard part.
The world is full of amazing musicians, especially guitarists but they pass by unnoticed except for some local reputation.
Without songs to perform to and about there is nothing to lift them to wider attention.
Waters always was an outspoken and somewhat abrasive character and I have no difficulty believeing that after the immense success of Dark Side and Wish he became so arrogantly overbearing that he became near impossible to work with.
At that point he had come to regard himself as the band leader and main creative force.
I do feel that he was fairly justified in that view.
Not only was he the writer of the lyrics and core melodies of the songs themselves but he was also the originator of a lot of their presentation ideas etc, The Wall being the most startling example. The random spoken bits on Dark Side are another example of his outside-the-box creativity.
As such, he WAS effectively the mainspring of the band. Unfortunately, he lacked the social manipulation skills to make that work and tried to simply enforce it on the basis of it's obvious truth.
The other guys and especially Gilmour were far from happy with that situation, especially when confronted with it in the stark way Waters no doubt presented it.
( ...... what do I know ...... I wasn't there. I formed my opinions from their own words in interview videos over the years )
I was utterly appalled at Water's treatment of Rick Wright and equally appalled that the other two allowed that to happen.
Asking Wright what he actually contributed and what was his value to the band was shameful and kicking him out was a big mistake..
They soon found out his value when they tried to use substitute keyboard players!
As with most keyboard players, he was largely in the backgound but he was the glue which stuck it all togther and made it work in the way that produced the magic.
At the very least he created "the atmosphere" within which all the rest could spakle.
I'm not surprised that Wright found little to point to and say "I did THIS" as counter argument.
But he was nonetheless essential IMO
(especially at the very beginning when no-one else had any substantial knowledge about music in the broader sense and he was a trained jazz musician who could guide them and solve musical problems.)
So they split.
It is very obvious that the majority of the Floyd catalogue i.e. the SONGS that Waters wrote are even now the mainstay that keeps the current Pink Floyd juggernaut rolling.
It is equally obvious that Waters on his own still writes great songs, but without the other guys contributions thay rarely reach their full potential.
These guys NEED each other to produce the actual Pink Floyd magic.
So what we have now is two Cabaret Bands, both performing the same back-catalogue of wonderful music and songs. They are entitled to ...... they did create it all.
But only occasionally can either alone produce new material which holds a candle to the combined chemisrty of their heyday.
It is sad.
I no longer listen to either Floyd or Waters to any great extent.
@@MykeLewisMusic I am sorry but I respectfully disagree. There are countless memorable and great songs that the lyrics are simple or even completely meaningless but it is the music that burns into your brain. Think about almost any Rolling Stones or Deep Purple song. I know you know them in your head right now but the lyrics are certainly not poetry. What about YES? Does anyone have any clue what Jon Anderson was saying in most songs? Alternatively, since the day "The Final Cut" came out [yes, I am that old] I have struggled to listen to it in its' entirety. It seems like is 36 hours long per side. [Not arguing with you or your opinion I am just voicing how I hear the music for discussion sake only. There is no right or wrong in music.].
Pink Floyd was at their best when they ALLcontributed to the music!
I agree, but Roger was always the principal songwriter after the departure of Syd Barrett.
@@chicklets4ever51 yes, but since The Final Cut, it's just rinse and repeat with Waters. Just rename his solo albums The Wall 2 through 5, with his 6th and last one, Dark Side of the Moon Redux, being another regurgitation.
@@ms8596 Roger's solo albums, especially "Amused to Death," far outstrip anything Dave's fake Floyd put out. (And the critics agree.) Hell, Roger's "What God Wants" suite blows Dave's whole post-Roger catalogue straight out of the water. Roger's re-hash of DSOTM was probably unfortunate, but I never much liked that disk anyway. More importantly, however, Roger has remained true to his vision, whereas Dave has proved himself to be a sellout and an Establishment hack.
@@chicklets4ever51 amused to death is just a redux of The Final Cut, Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, etc, etc, etc. He even sampled sound effects from prior albums. It easily could have been a third record fitting into The Wall. Rinse and Repeat. I have not seen one critic extolling the virtues of any of his solo albums. Where'd you find this great review? Some backwater college newspaper?
@@ms8596 All the main reviewers (Rolling Stone, Village Voice, etc.) preferred Roger's albums to Dave's fake Floyd, with some caveats. Just do a little research instead of relying on your rank partisanship. (I don't even like most Floyd production after "Meddle," but I can't stand ignorant internet bots like yourself continually dumping on Roger, who was the main force of the band from the moment Syd was gone, and the only one with any principles.) And if you think Amused is a redux of the Final Cut, etc., you haven't got ears. As for recycling sound effects, that may be so, but those were at least Roger's own sound effects, whereas Dave recycled them and pretended they were his own and even had the gall to call one of his fake Floyd performances "Pulse," recycling a Roger theme that dates way back to the early Floyd, the pulsing bass of "Eugene," etc. Case closed.
Rick wright was the glue, he never seems to be appreciated and he and nick mason were generally pushed into the background by two massive egos.
Really!!
Not sure Gilmour has a "massive ego", he's just not letting Waters roll over him. Admirable.
@@joeysplats3209 Gilmour is a passive aggressive bitch.
I always wished we got more solo work from Richard. He was a very talented song writer.
Yes two massive egos who produced massive music! One needs to recognize that without ego not much gets accomplished/ Don't hate on David Gilmore for his ego. SOMEONE in the band had to stand up to Waters because if not he would have ran roughshod over the others. The problem with Waters is his attitude which was developed due to his immaturity, selfishness and lack of intelligence. Of course he was a driving force in the band. Which was recognized not disputed. I believe that any doubt about that was in Waters own mind and therefor he had to keep asserting his value and dominance in the band. His fundaMENTAL problem was his (if not failure but intentional refusal) to recognize that ALL members of a band are important and that they should ALL be equally paid and recognized. I also believe that Roger Waters will be remembered as someone who can't get along with his bandmates and destroyed a large part of himself in the process. When I hear the name Roger Waters the only thing that comes to mind is MR. ATTITUDE. When I hear the name David Gilmore what comes to mind is an absolutely dynamic musician and creative and driving force of Pink Floyd whos cohesiveness kept the band together and without him would have disbanded long ago. Every Pink Floyd fan owes a debt of gratitude to David Gilmore!
Waters: "I was in the right"
Mason: "Yes, absolutely in the right"
Gilmour: "I certainly was in the right"
Wright: "Yeah, I was definitely in the right, that geezer was cruisin' for a bruisin'"
Barrett: "I don't know, I was really drunk at the time"
😂
incorrect, Barrett said "I don't know I was looking for coleslaw at the time""
Which one’s Pink?
the one with all the ca$h
Barrett
Anderson
The one smoking a cigar.
Have a cigar...we're gonna go far!
Beatles, Pink Floyd, Queen... A lot of legendary bands suffered the same disputes due to ego.
Ignore the controversy and just enjoy the music. We will never see the likes of them again.
i dont think Queen, although the movie kinda suggests it, more for movie interests.
@@samskarebyaha Even Mercury and May weren't the best mates, but evidently the dislike was not that strong.
Giusto quella musica è inarrivabile.
There really wasn't anything that strange in the band, many others were far worse. This just keeps going because Waters and Gilmour keep going back and forth. Just can't help themselves. They both can be equally stupid in this although most garbage media like to paint Gilmour as some sort of victim. Even Nick Mason has said that he was upset with how Gilmour lied about how Roger hurt Mason's confidence. Mason said it was complete bs and he didn't like it, but since he wanted to keep playing in Floyd with Gilmour he had to just go along with it. Gilmour lies far too much in his promotion of his Floyd to be looked at as any kind of victim. Only Gilmour shills could disagree.
Two old grandpas arguing, Roger only knows how to complain,
Roger does complain, but Gilmour lies and whines constantly. Too many ignore that because they see how talkative and political Roger is. Even Mason has talked about Gilmour being full of shit on many occasions. To this day, Gilmour is still working hard to get the respect he feels he deserves even though he gets plenty. You can tell he feels he's living his life in Roger's shadow and it clearly bothers him tremendously.
David and Roger;”two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl”.
The sun is the same in relative way , but your older .
I don’t agree with either one I believe it is so sad the feuded just denies the world of their excellent music. I love the fact that he donates so much of his money to charities like building homes for the homeless & feeding the homeless. He has done so much to help others I believe that he deserves to make the same amount. It’s a band which means each members donate their time & talent to make the amazing sound of their music. They need each other to make their final sound of music. No one better than the other! Writing is just as important singing, and playing. You can have the ability to write something but if you have a horrible voice no one wants to hear it. Just like if you can’t play an instrument no one going to want to listen. Writing, singing and playing together is what makes up a band & their final sound. You all need each other to have a great product of music. In other words they all need each other.
Spoken just like someone who hasn't the slightest idea wtf he's talking about.
@@JamesThompson-zk1ht You took the words out or my mouth!
9:10 - DG did NOT
leave PF😂
That's why I love "Rush" ... No drama...
Absolutely! Pink Floyd Is Great But RUSH Is Greater! Peart Was The BEST Rock Lyricist & Drummer Of The 20th Century. Thank You. (Like #670)
Agree about Rush!!
Well, there was some this century.. there was quite a rift between Lee & Peart over tour lengths and even whether to continue the band or not
@@jeffsimon9594 Rush who!?!
@@thewatcher5271 Peart's lyrics are often profound
And if they were good men they'd understand the spaces between friends
Couldn’t have said it better.💗
In later years and still today. It's about the money 💵 and nothing else 💰 !!..
@@alancrisp1582
So very true. Money does cause ppl to act in strange ways.
'If'. They could see their future. Lol
And if I go insane
Please don't put your wires
In my brain
Waters shouldnt have any pudding 😂😂
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
Waters needs to grow up
Waters is a jerk!
@@robert.m4676 Maybe so, but he is a principled jerk who (as even Gilmour has admitted) is correct more often than not. Climate change is a non-issue (sad that Gilmour got suckered into that position), but the abuse of Palestine is very real, and Waters has sacrificed a lot by being perhaps the most outspoken supporter of Palestinians and their fundamental human rights.
@@dalexfilms Please provide scientific evidence that climate change is a non-issue.
On the turning away.
THE best!!
Absolutely proves that money doesn't buy civility or maturity or respect. I have no sympathy for either one of them. Insanely rich men acting like they are 14 years old.
Waters still has a mental age of 12
Apart for Gilmour, the PF guys never needed any money. They met in an architectural college. Guys who make music like that are obviously no sellouts.
It's for posterity's sake and to that effect, I just wish they'll come into their right minds in their living years.
Someone's taken a bigger slice of Rog's pie
Yeah communism yet you don’t see him giving one red cent to any cause except his own!
Anyone else sick of Waters BS after 40 YEARS. 🙄
Yea me, I’m definitely so fkyn sick of it. Waters needs to shut up or get out of the way !!! I always thought Gilmore was the leader of Pink Floyd. Ok, I’m just gonna say it. Waters acts like a asshole !!!!
I'm more sick that Gilmour got to retain the Pink Floyd name and then he and Mason proceeded to put out one crappy album[AMLOR] and then they, with Wright back in the group, put out one half-decent album [TDB] and another crappy album of outtakes and leftovers from the half-decent album, after Wright died [TER] in the remaining decades that PF were "alive" (not counting live albums). Gilmour and Co. diminished the PF legacy.
@genxskeptic5816
Yea I am very sick of waters bullshit. You can’t tell these ppl anything tho. Waters was the bass player, that’s it.
Gilmore (phone is correcting spelling) little trolls are after me. Anyway david Gilmore was lead guitarist /singer and wrote most of their songs if. It all. So yea I am sick of waters big time. Thank you for your comment.
@@cronejawford978 I got it. We all have our individual tastes in music, but I went to the AMLOR concert when they came to Dallas and bought one of those ridiculous band jerseys that was so popular back then. I thought the show was outstanding.
No he takes a stance against IDF thugs and coward and their genocide. Without him the band would sound bland like Gilmours boring Floyd albums without Waters.
Gilmour is still recording and producing great music and will tour the USA this year. Gilmour has given away more cash to charities then what Waters net worth is.
Mi è piaciuto anche il brano per l'Ucraina. ❤
Gilmours music with his wife's horrendous lyrics is just ruined.
Don't you ball washers ever get tired? Pathetic.
I always liked Roger Watters until just a while ago. Another Jester in the wall. Polotics among entertainers. Activism from entitled singers is not the top of my priorities
Your priorities should be to shut your uninformed mouth.
At the least his activism is sensible unlike 99% of Hollywood baboons
Apathy is the root of problems. Good for Rodger for speaking up.
Obviously you never listened to any pink Floyd lyrics from 1970 onwards
But his right on his politics. One of very few celebreties who I respect on that point.
The thing about in fighting in popular bands is, it drives the myth and cements the legend. Pink Floyd has done very well out of it.
In this game, if a band goes cold, then it's goodnight.......but always being in the news has meant no one forgets Pink Floyd.
As for Syd........that's another story. 😎☯️🌱
I do wonder sometimes if Roger and David do this on purpose to stay in the spotlight. There has been talk of other famous people doing the same thing over the years to stay in the press.
Favorite is Comfortablly Numb. The internal dynamics and ructions between band members is not something that keeps me awake at night. It's the music and their song lyrics that have been with me showing the sign posts on the road that matters most. Another enjoyable and informative show, Nick. Many thanks.
Comfortably Numb tops my list of favorites too. Hey You and Wish You Were Here are not far behind.
@@billschlafly4107 Comfortably Numb, closely followed by Echoes for me.
Wasn't enjoyable though as clearly this Nick moron was just acting as a Gilmour shill. Never mind how inaccurate it was.
Its always sad when one band member thinks the sun only shines out their A$$. Pink Floyd is a band, not a group of independent players. Roger Waters needs to grow up before it is too late.
Question 🙋 why would he or the rest of the group care ?. Because they are all worth millions 💰 of dollars 💵 !!..
make you realize why Sid left. he wasnt welcome in Roger's "plans" after he leaves the bands style becomes much more pop rock than experimental... I mean yeah all of it is nice, but none of it is Crazy/downright psychoactive like Piper at the Gates of Dawn was
@@liveBasschannel Friend, everyone knows that it was the lsd kicking his schizophrenia into overdrive that lead up to Floyd's leader & visionary being fired. Actually, just never picked up for practice again after too many times just standing on stage in a wordless haze leaving the rest of the band scrambling to somehow finish the set. But the period between Piper & Dark Side of the Moon was spent trying to find & develope their own style without Syd. Gilmour 100% helped carry them & without which, Floyd would've been done, no doubt. But it was Waters who brought them global fame when he almost single handedly wrote Dark Side. He writes on guitar, bass, im sure can doodle around on a keyboard & drums, & writes lyrics, which without, no matter if Gilmour the GOAT guitarist, hardly anyone would know who they are today. Now I also can't imagine being in a democratically ran band for years that came together as brothers to triumph over the tragedy of losing one of our own to drugs & schizophrenia only to have a member write our biggest albums, consequently try & take over & dictate the formula we're expected to use from now on. I'd be gone too, no matter how successful. So i see both sides. Without Gilmour Floyd never would've survived losing Syd. But without Waters writing Dark Side of the Moon, the #2 album of all time, & last I checked still on billboard charts some 50 odd years later they never would've hit the big league & be just another cool band some liked back in day for 5 minutes.
@@satyadasgumbyji8956 A very good analysis, thanks.
You nailed it dude!@@satyadasgumbyji8956
I'm 70. I was a huge fan of the band throughout the late 60's til late 70's. For me, the band was done and over with "Animals". What a perfect album to bookend to an extremely successful 10 year run! I didn't care for Roger's "The Wall" album or the movie, and any of the post Animals albums.
Waters now at 80+ years old should just enjoy what's left of his life, for Chrissakes! Pink Floyd has finished....................years ago.🏁
I have to agree about the movie The Wall, it's depressing. I really don't like to watch it
Agreed. Animals was where Roger really found his angsty teen voice, so "edgy," and needlessly bitter, and I have a lot of difficulty with that album as well. Ultimately, I feel it's a bit trite, honestly. It's a dog eat dog world, people are sheep, etc, etc. For me, DSotM was their crescendo, where all members contributed together, and it served as a grand summary of all that had gone before.
You shuffle in the gloom of the sick room, and talk to yourself til you die. At least we've got the music. Give it a rest, lads. tavi.
They call it riding the gravy train.
If this is supposed to be about Waters versus Gilmore why do you keep showing Pink Floyd pictures with Syd Barrett and no Gilmore?
That is the point when I stopped watching
Because it's a bullshit video? So many bs vids on YT.
Old band members all over are always feuding. I'm waiting for them to start poking each other in the eyes with BenGay on their fingers. 😳😵
Ha ha lol ….. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It always ends up being about the money 💵 honey, and egos aside. Still is just about the 💰 MONEY !!..
Artists are narcissistic and have schizo personality
I'd pay good money to see Waters and Gilmour on stage spitting at each other for 90 minutes
@@jamesblair1211 🤣😁 Well, a fool and his money 💵 are soon parted !...
I love Pink Floyd, favorite song - Eclipse, but honestly, I just love their stuff. Great music.
Maybe They're Just Two Lost Souls Swimming In A Fish Bowl, Year After Year!! I Admit To Enjoying Their Music For Over 50 Years But I Could Not Care Less About Their Personalities, Politics Or Petty Grievances. If You Have OVER 100 Million Dollars, What Do You Have To Complain About!?! Thank You. (Like #670)
Bro that cool and right on.
well said!!
Why You Typing Like This???
@@mikespearwood3914 Just Another Sad Ol' Man . . .
The feud between Roger Waters and David Gilmour is a fascinating yet tragic saga in the history of rock music. It's incredible how their creative tensions gave birth to masterpieces like "The Wall" and "Dark Side of the Moon," but it's also sad to see how personal and bitter their disputes have become over the years.
Great band first time I heard their music, sadly it has to end. If only differences could be settle peacefully. Life is short, you never know when your expiry is up.
Well I hoped that they would have ended the feud and made more music period and Pink Floyd is definitely one of the 5 best bands of all times, Just like Rush is another one
Rush. 🤮
We can now see clearly which is the bleeding heart and which is the artist.
Waters resented the audience. On one occasion playing the wall he coaxed an over zealous fan to the stage and spit in his face. Contrast that to Gilmore's philanthropy
It was on the 77 Animals tour
Gilmour.
Lol, he didn't coax him, and did Waters's philanthropy not count?
That was the Animals Tour
@@MykeLewisMusic Actually, Waters DID coax him (because the "fan" was being an idiot / acting like a fool) after wanting people to shut up and listen to the softer portions of the concert (and this miscreant not heeding the request) - Waters had had enough. It provided Waters (after self-examination at what he had done) with the concept of The Wall. The rest is history.
How many times does Rodge got to say deeply before he gets to insulting?
❤ them with all my heart, eventhou they don't love each other..... ! That's life !
The oysters are good
Here a random one. I couldn’t sleep last night so I started playing See-Saw in my head, I guess it worked.
They are all such excellent musicians and what they created is timeless and truly unique in spite of everything else. I will say this: I like Roger Waters's politics and I am happy that there is one who is not afraid to actually say the things he does, including in his music and including way back in Pink Floyd; it is far too rare, both in music (and the arts, as far as that is concerned) and in day to day life. Saw him a few years ago and he hasn't softened.
Nice to hear you speak up as most of the time it is (hardcore Gilmour fans I assume) people just attacking him about politics but never saying what they disagree with. They just blanketly say they hate all the politics. They really just sound like Gilmour shills to me, just like this youtube channel.
Stop fighting, it's ridiculous. Be GRATEFUL!!!
❤❤❤
The argument they’re referring to was well over a year ago. This is total ai-generated clickbait.
I think Gilmours wife should shut up and stay out of it. She’s just helping prolong a ridiculous feud.
Wives are going to support a husband , that is what they do if their are worth their salt.
It's clear !!!
I get the feeling she's one of those wives that would say "Why do you need so many guitars David? I mean you can only play one at a time" 😂🤣
Yet, no one really cares about the, 'feud'. All anyone should care about is the great music they produced together from 'round 1968 til 1980. (After, 'The Wall', don't try to convince me that anything they did was worth a crap, because it wasn't.) And time will tell, and agree with me.
She has also either written or assisted in writing some later PK releases as well on Gilmore's work. She has plenty of standing. Roger Waters is a virtuoso but a total dick who's ego can't handle another virtuoso in the band I see no gap at all without him and ego drama.
I am now at age 63 and was able to see Pink Floyd 5 times. Their chemistry was angular but provided immense and riveting music. I will always consider their shows the greatest shows I ever saw of any band. I do not focus on the relationships, but the body of work. Analogous was the album title, The Delicate Sound of Thunder. Love it All. Thank You Guys.
Echoes, Dogs & Marooned are my favorite Floyd songs of all time. Number one band of all time. I love Waters contributions but we could all do without that ridiculous ego. The feud is unfortunate, but the average lifespan of a band is 5 years as it is. I am forever grateful for PF, RIP RW. Looking forward to seeing DG in L.A. this October for what very well may be his final tour. He's 78. Long live PF!
I absolutely LOVE Pink Floyd, and have seen them together and Waters by himself and Pink Floyd post Waters, and I've walked out of the Waters concert and will NEVER pay to see him again. I got sick and tired of Waters politics. I pay good money do listen to music, not his personal politics.
YES PINK FLOYED IS IN TOP 5 BAND OF ALL TIMES
David was gorgeous back then. Leonardo DiCaprio was going to play him in a bio movie but it was never made
No kiddin? That would of been cool. A Floyd movie like the Queen, EJ, and Elivis style would be AMAZING.
Why oh why at this age?
They're trying to top george takei in being old and bitter. lol
Why not?
@@soundacresstudio time to make up. Life is too short to waste time and energy being bitter, eh?
@@SofiiGolding Gilmour does whatever Polly tells him to do, She despises Roger,,,therefore Gilmour will never make the first move to any reconciliation
This video is rife with errors
It's tough to summarize 50+ years into a 10 minute video. So errors are inevitable. Please name your top 3 or 4 errors.
It’s total clickbait.
It pretends this argument started this week. Uh, no!
That was well over a year ago. This is AI-generated clickbait.
RW👎👎👎🤮👎👎👎
@@timstamps5281 It literally opened by saying it's been going for years
The errors are one thing; I couldn't stand the mistakes in voice inflection. Sounds like the narrator just mastered the English language.
Oh it JUST turned ugly, did it?
"When pigs fly"
I love the music of the group.. Their feud is none of my business.
Favorite PINK FLOYD song "Apples and Oranges," and "Arnold Layne." I think I am pro Gilmour.
@jamesgorski7551 - Those are Syd Barrett songs. Dave Gilmour wasn't in the band when they were recorded.
@@warmswarm I know. I am a fan of lesser known (obscure) songs that only die hard fans know.
@@jamesgorski7551 - If you are pro Gilmour why do your favourite Pink Floyd songs not involve him? That doesn't make sense.
@@warmswarm Good question, I guess that's my nature; that said, I also like "point me at the sky."
Loved it when Dave Bowie sang Arnold lane with Gilmour .ua-cam.com/video/LmvtsBPz6Io/v-deo.htmlsi=qMZ94evHbc7c5jsl
QUICK SYNOPSIS: Roger Waters is wacky as hell
You poor IGNORANT little dude 😆
He is a bit wacky, but one hell of a songwriter.
Agree 100%!
Songwriters and producers are paid royalties, and musicians are paid for their time. It's basically a business owner and employee relationship.
They make bands like this anymore. I was lucky to have grown up with them..
C L I C K B A I T!!
A herd of powerful, amazing cats. Ever try to herd cats?
I believe that Roger Waters is now clinically insane
I agree.
love the music.
Tracks from Gilmour's self-titled album ended up on The Wall? Google me this - which ones?
I think they're talking about Comfortably Numb, which David wrote the music for when he was writing for the album. It never appeared on the album, of course, but then this video is rife with inaccuracies!
he means david wrote comfortably numb and run like hell. Maybe he wrote them for his album and used them on the wall instead.
@@alisonanthony1228 Indeed, Gilmour wrote the music for Comfortably Numb, and the lyrics belonged to Waters. The song is pretty bland on its own not much to it, but the music and guitar playing are brilliant.
@@rtflone sorry but the lyrics (which are brilliant) cannot be separated from the music. are you deaf? in fact, its the lyrics that carry the song
@@rtflone
There is no pain, you are receding
A distant ship, smoke on the horizon
You are only coming through in waves
Your lips move, but I can't hear what you're saying
When I was a child, I had a fever
My hands felt just like two balloons
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain, you would not understand
This is not how I am
Everyone knows that Waters has mental issues.
How many people would attend a Waters concert, stay for the entire concert and enjoy it? Not many.
Now ask the same question for Gilmour.
There's your answer.
One of the best concerts I went to was Roger's Kaos tour.
I've been to a few floyd concerts also.
@@smeghead7698 I just saw a clip recently of Waters without Gilmour and he was talking too much political crap and people were leaving quick.
Gilmour do do that he just plays and sings like no one else.
I’ve seen Roger’s DSOTM and the Wall concerts. The best concerts I’ve ever seen by a mile.
@@vijayallaham5793Best shows, not the best concerts. Waters puts on a great show, Gilmour puts on a great concert.
YOU'RE ANOTHER PILLOCK
We love Pink Floyd and there solos Albums /Cds too
Rock bands always have something to nag about. Sometimes it gets out of hand. This is where a good manager is needed to sort things out and more money makes for (at times) more trouble. Being famous isn't the be-all and end-all.
I loved Pink Floyd Music. My music professor saw me wearing my Pink Floyd shirt. He said to me how can you listen to that crap when I introduced you into the classic music. I told him if you really listen to Pink Floyd music it’s an amazing opera of it’s time. Pink Floyd’s has more than four notes Melody being played over and over again. It’s way more than that it was classic music of their time frame. Beethoven and Bach were classics music of their time frame. I hate Beethoven 5th Symphony the reason is my ex-stepfather was bipolar & he played over & over again when he was in his manic phase. Besides being bipolar he was psychotic. He wouldn’t take his medication so it was a roller coaster ride living with him & not a good kind. That why I went to live with my Dad. He went into the mental hospital & wouldn’t take his medicine their either he was paranoid that it make him sterile. They ended up giving him shots of his medication. A wise nurse told my Mom he would never change & she divorced him.
A bit long winded, but your point isn’t missed. Unfortunately, like many classical works, the music is palatable, but not danceable.
It’s not relatable. It’s just TOO structured and not enough of a fun way to go.
Most simply don’t wish to think about their music. They want to be able to dance. This is where Floyd runs into trouble.
Well structured, deep meaning, & strong messages = not appreciably rewarded results. They’re fortunate to get their accolades as it is.
Ah, well. “C’est la vie!” 👍
Are you saying your Dad went into the mental hospital or your ex-stepfather went into the hospital?
The structure of Money is "theme and variations." Can't think of another rock band that wrote like that
9:38 - WHICH tracks from Gilmour's first solo album end up on the wall?! -this Vid is SO nuts😅
I can’t think of any?
The solo section chord progression from "Comfortably Numb" was written by Gilmour during his writing sessions for a solo album. He didn't see anything to do with it, so Ezrin and Waters turned it into something decent, and then Gilmour added that solo that turned it into something better (which is actually 6 solos comped).
Also "Run Like Hell", Gilmour wrote the opening bit that sort of drives the song.
It was an unfinished piece of music he came up with in the studio after finishing the album.
It became Comfortably Numb.
Check out the demo.
It's just Gilmour on guitar.
He suggested it for the Wall and Waters liked it and added his bit to it. A classic example of why they're better together. But that's never gonna happen again.
@@MykeLewisMusic I don't doubt you but is there any other mentions of this anywhere, please?
I'm sure someone as talented as David found to easy enough in the helping of the writing of these PF songs BUT only after the release/recording of his solo album otherwise he would've just kept them for that album, surely?!
Like Zeppelin & Rush & TOOL, it's impossible to pick 1 song of theirs as my favorite, but with a gun pointed at me, I'd pick "Time".
It's hard for me to understand how a band who have made so much outstanding music and lyrics can keep this ridiculous childish fight between them for decades. It's absurd.
I’m actually sick of hearing about the feud between Gilmour and Waters. When I saw the reunion videos of The Wall performance with Gilmour and Mason rejoining Waters for a special one off performance, I thought the feud was finally over. Unfortunately, that was a short lived sentiment. And, sadly, even though I like Gilmour’s first 2 solo albums some of Waters’ solo material, I still feel the better music they wrote and performed was when they were together. Today, the one member I enjoy and support the most is Mason. I love his Saucerful of Secrets band, especially the live recording and the one off video with Waters singing Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun!
Mason rocks.
Mason is always cool to listen to and the only one that doesn't have an axe to grind. Waters and Gilmour both seem to have some kind of agenda and can often be full of shit.
I LOVEE Pink Floyd 💗💗💗💗
Roger is my Fave ❤🎶🎶
I think BOTH are Great musicians and good people!!!❤
So sad ..🥲😥
Yes it is very sad that these two can’t get along. Is it about money ? That’s usually what it’s about !! 😊
RW has turned into a dick. Fact.
Comfortably Numb still my all time favorite along with Another Brick in the Wall just great Music outside of whatever drama is going on. Peace Love and Tranquility from the DarkKnight ChessMasterKnight happy Sunday.
Trying to name a favorite Pink Floyd song is like trying to name a favorite book. There is too much meaningful selection to raise any one above the others. Sometimes what is preferential is just a result of what mood you are in.
AI voice. No thanks
Welcome to the MACHINE
Not to mention the AI video thumbnail. Polly looks like her eyes were removed and put back in upside down. And Roger almost looks like a human being.
🤯
R E A L L Y?!
wow... it sounds SO realistic😠
Say no more
Thanks
Are there any AI bots on the UA-cam tonight? Put ‘em up against the wall…
I admire Roger for his excellent lyrics, but he literally killed the band because of his ego
He lost his mind.
He also totally murdered "Great Gig in the Sky". ua-cam.com/video/MMWO8s6yGOA/v-deo.htmlsi=ApygjqMUQi88WJ1l
He copied "his lyrics" from Syds notebook where they had all been previously written.Rog was a copycat and a clone.The reason Syd left.is because he thought Rog sucked at song writing.Syd was right.
@@BobbyJardine-vs8yc Not sure if you know the history of the band, Syd Barret got sick due to his overdose of LSD and was not in the position to contribute
Are you saying that Roger copied all the lyrics from Syd for Dark Side of the moon, Wish you were, Animals, and The Wall ?
I am not sure what you wrote makes sense
Geez, I know, right?! They could have sold millions of records and filled stadiums if it wasn't for him.
I'll leave the criticism about the video's errors to others. But as a long-time Pink Floyd fan, this decades long feud between Roger and David is so sad. These men are so rich and successful, yet they choose to continue this feud. Embarrassing for all concerned.
It’s also pathetic because they are really old men now.
@john-evanbear8783 Absolutely. So much for gaining wisdom with age. They of all people should realize what is lost by such useless feuds. Here they wrote a classic song about the very subject of lost TIME (Roger wrote the words), and then all but ignore their own advice. Sad.
It's just sad to think of what else could have been released from Pink Floyd. They were a great group with some amazing work.
I see what you mean,but the amazing stuff that was released between 1967-79 is more than enough.An album every year except '74,'76 and '78.Two albums in '69,More and Ummagumma.They gave us plenty!
It was over, they were creatively spent. Most bands go a decade or a little more, but that's it. There is nothing created by any of them from mid 80s on that shows they had much left. The catalog should end at The Final Cut and I will not acknowledge the 2 Pink Fraud albums in any way. The music and lyrics for the 2 radio songs were written by guest songwriters and I didn't even like them. Not very good and sound like lame attempts by some band to try to sound a bit like Pink Floyd. It's actually embarrassing.
Wouldn't it of been great if The Wall was the last thing they put out?
Syd Barrett ❤
🤯🤪 The poor suffering creature was sadly insane !..
What a prick Waters is really, puts a damper on folk just enjoying the beautiful music, some people NEVER grow up!
Yeah, it's terrible the way he opposes genocide; he should be more like the Gilmours and support it
@@melvynobrien6193 You're just batshit crazy my man !
Imagine if one of the Rolling Stones openly hated Indian people. That would damage the Stones enormously and irrevocably! Hasn’t happened but that’s what you get with Waters and Pink Floyd’s legacy!
Same goes for Gilmour's crying and playing victim all the time. Mason has admitted that much of what Gilmour said is bullshit, but he went along with it just because he wanted to continue touring as Floyd.
This video is full of errors or half-truths. But what I find particularly annoying is the fact that is more of a "Waters is a piece o sh*t" narrative more than anything else. And if it is your opinion, that's fine, but the video is presented like a "neutral" narrative.
It's all very...... very Rock n Roll🤘😎🙏
To all those who diss Roger, you don’t know the guy so stop it and just appreciate the music because nothing can diminish from the magic of the Floyd’s music.
You reap what you sew buddy! If 310 million dollars cant cushion the blows of any criticism then too bad so sad. People, as they age, grow wiser, more mellow, more knowledgeable, more loving etc. Not Waters! Her's just gotten to be a bigger A hole!
Except for Waters Shilling for Biden and the Globalists that diminished Roger just a bit as a person. That being said ; They are still the best band.
PS. Waters was batshit crazy thinking He was "PinkFloyd" The Judge na bro Says here you are Roger Waters..pink Floyd is a created name of a musical Band not your name Pal..now beat it..court adjourned
@@BadManN_TheBushes What planet are you living on if you think Waters has been shilling for Biden and the globalists? They represent everything Waters has been rebelling against his whole life. Unlike Gilmour who supports Ukraine and his wife publicly calling Roger an antisemite because of his anti Zionist activism. Roger has integrity because he remains firm to his political beliefs no matter the cost to himself. Unlike most stars who pathetically remain silent on issues that may have a detrimental effect on their careers were they to take a public position that conflicts with the official narrative.
Who cares. Good musicians who did some great stuff 40 years ago. Move on.
All in all...
They were all..
...just bricks in da'wall. 🎉..
Just turned really where have you been the past 25 years
I wish they would stop arguing and just play music. 🤘🏼💀🤘🏼
It’s all their talent that makes Pink Floyd. They need to grow up and stop fighting! If they get back together then everyone should also be paid the same because they are 1 band and all the members make up the amazing sound of Pink Floyd. No one better than the other. However I do think it is great that one gives so much to charities. Maybe they can do a tour where a percentage goes to build homes & feed the homeless. They could have other great bands join their tour making large amount of money for families that our homeless. Just like farm aid and We are the World singers did in the 80’s to feed hungry children across the world
@@terrylkumpf3894
Very well said.
All great musicians as a band.. Wright's keyboard, Mason, on the drums, Gilmore's guitar was breathtaking..Waters a good bass player, but nothing at a level like the other.. David Gilmore's introduction to the lineup was the musical driving force that propelled albums like darkside, wish you were here, the wall. To be the incredible success they were..not down playing the other by any respect. But I seriously doubt that Rodger Waters would have been able to sustain the success without Gilmore and co.
Uh, this was over two years ago that 'family joined the fray'. This is hardly 'news'. If you are sick of Waters, why would you even BE hear?
My favorite Pink Floyd song:
Comfortably Numb
Wish You Were Here
Hey You
Money
Time
Us And Them
Vera
Young Lust
Welcome To The Machine
Goodbye Blue Sky
Is There Anybody Out There
Don't Leave Me Now
Have A Cigar
Run Like Hell
Dark Side Of The Moon
Another Brick In The Wall (all 3 of them)
Learning To Fly
The Trial
Publishing importance, from the most important, to the least: 1. Vocal Melody including syllable cadence 2. Lyrics 3. Musical hooks/riffs 4. Musical Arrangement
Taxation is theft, and liberalism is a mental illness
of course you never use roads, schools or any public services, right ? Liberalism is progress, conservatism is regression to white male privilege at the expense of every one else, Think I know where you are on that continuum.
It's funny, the songs that Waters wrote about mental illness, generally in brain damage and specifically about Barrett, in shine on. Were apparently written by a man without a mirror.
Roger Waters once said that Syd Barrett wasn't as important in the history of Pink Floyd.
P.F.'s uniqueness goes without mention. I happen to like Space Rock anyway, and they were fundamental to my development as a space musician, and I highly favored the earliest material anyway. Personalities in bands clash often enough. I've seen it in my own history, but life goes on and so does creativity. Thanks for the documentary, it's good and fair 🌛
Waters would have been nothing without Gilmour, Wright and Mason. Waters wrote some words but was mediocre bass player at best until Gilmour showed him how to play.
Wtf?!😅 Dave has to have his lapdog, uh, I mean, wife write lyrics, & abysmal ones at that😅! Fukn Delicate Sound Of Thunder WITHOUT Waters was an abomination. Division Bell had maybe 2, 3 decent tunes WRITTEN FOR "Pink Gilmour".😂
That shit would've never made it out the club circuit, & Dave without the geniuses he had front for him would be pushing brooms or parking cars today & you wouldn't even know the name, regardless of him being at the absolute top of Rock Guitar Legends Panteon.
SMGDMFH!😅
Waters was more than competent on bass and vocals. Waters was the prime mover in Pink Floyd. You're so obviously jealous of his success. Just stop with your petty grievances.
Absolute bollocks, when you compare the songs and lyrics of Waters with the bland Gilmour, talentless forgettable tripe without Waters and Gilmour knows it.
@detroitlady7201
Finally, someone that gets it, thank you for your comment
@@satyadasgumbyji8956
Wow !!!! Ok. How old are you anyway. Waters was only the bass player. David was lead guitarist/Singer and David wrote the songs.
DAVID CILMOURE ROCKS AND RULES AND IS PINK FLOYD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🤘🏼💀🤘🏼. 🎸. 🤘🏼💀🤘🏼
If The Big Four of the British Invasion are The Beatles The Rolling Stones The Who and The Kinks, Pink Floyd perfectly round out the top 5.
David Gilmour's Wife is Beautiful!
Wow!
I kind of hate to say it, but this was an interesting video. The net result is I went to follow Ms. Sampson: she don't seem to mind the smoke.
Roger , You are correct Sir ! WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR POLITICS, Shut up and play. We the People hold YOU responsible for the breakup. Get over your Fathers death, sooner or later we ALL die. YOU destroyed the best group EVER
Roger Waters and that Damn bloody Ego of he's.
Salt and pepper.i respect and thank them both and all.
This could have been an informative one minute video.