Sennheiser e835, no need to buy anything else for what I do. In general you can EQ most mic recordings to sound how it needs to sound for the track and vocal.
As someone with similar vocals, who has tried thousands of dollars worth of mics, preamps, etc. It's super validating to hear mic 2 performed well for you guys. That's the one I've settled on to cut vocals & I've been so happy with it! Congrats on this milestone - this is a huge win!
I was shocked how clear my vocals with NOTHING were. I ran it through my actual analog vocal chain to and I swear to god I may never need to process it in the box hahaha
@@MakePopMusic I can definitely relate! (although not an 11k mic) I recently got a Universal Audio Bock 187 mic, a good pre-amp and an analog wa-2a and it feels like black magic! A bit of EQ and the vocals feel so dope already!
I loved the sound of #4 in the shootout & thought it was the best... after seeing what mic number 4 was it was the microphone I always use for my vocals so it's great to see it getting some love!
Great video. I've had my C800G since 2014/2015. Got it for around $8k. I also have a U87AI, Flea47, and Brauner Phantom AE. Next im going to get the ELA M 251T.
Super helpful video Austin, it was fun doing the blind test plus it removes any bias from our true feelings on how each mic actually sounds. Keep up the awesome work! Much respect! ✌😎 - Cole Mize
No mic should cost that much money. That said, I think the Sony was either 7 or 4.. possibly 8. 5 and 9 sounded the worst. The rest sounded really good, just not as saturated in the top end like i would expect from the Sony. Fun video!
Why? Because you can’t afford one? Is that like saying no car should cost $1 million? Is that like saying no Guitar should cost $50,000? Who are you to say what anything should cost… …you fucking idiot
The Sony C80, very close sound, same capsule materials, significanly cheaper. I use this mic and with a bit of EQ you are in the same playing field. I doubt the C800 is a waste of money as it probably holds its value but you need to be able to justify it.
I was comparing it on my vocals vs Telefunken ELAM 251 and despite ELAM was more smooth and less sibilant I still decided to use Sony because it was bringing me more forward and bright sound I was looking for.
I got this two years ago, I almost ended up with the ELA M, but this one always had the most publicity was always the highest praised within the industry whether by Justin Bieber, Dre, etc. I use it for Pop and it's still my fav
I had to buy mine for $21,000, because I would've had to wait over 2 years. I actually pre-ordered it at first, but cancelled months later. On the receipt from Reverb, the owner waited 2 and a half years just for it to ship, just to resell it brand new from Vintage I believe
Amazing mic! If by any chance, one day you'll be able to get a hold of Stam Audio's clone (the newer version) SA-800G then pls compare it with the original Sony. Some say it's the best clone.
On my ten year old TV (great for testing audio 😂) i still preferred the 4 on all ranges, the 7 sounded great with the low range too but 4 was the only real standout across the board. There were others that sounded pretty "bad" across the board too. Excited to see the results!
Get the Hazzelrig VLC & VNE.. stick a fork in it! I heard you giving shout outs.. definitely thank your wife! 🙏🏼 she sounds super cool like my wife! It is an investment nice work, brother! Respect
I liked 1 and 4, 4 was better than 1.. also liked 7.. I thought 4 was better with every test.. 1 and 7 didn't sound as good with later tests. When I watched a different youtube video of sony 800, i also commented that it sounded as if there is some built in compression on high end. thanks for sharing!
Glad you're happy with your purchase! I do not jive with the (IMO) extremely bright sound of the C800 at all, but I don't want to rain on your parade. :D
❤ Cool. I was the first GC Pro guy in the Bay Area. Great connect man. And wow, Miranda is such a gem 💎 My poor wife has to deal with both me AND my kid with gear stuff. 😂
Overall i though the Slate was the most under-performing, at least on your voice. Not sure how the other emulations are but honestly, I'd rather buy the best "real" mic within my budget, that meets my vocal needs. Thanks for sharing the shootout, great to hear the tonal differences between these mics AND between these ranges.
One additional thought... for the price of that one Sony mic, you could literally buy ALL the other microphones in the test, and still have change left for a 1073 and a decent compressor ;-) ouch!
It won’t be anything alike. It isn’t a tube mic, it uses a different capsule, all different electronics on the inside. It’s basically like comparing any other $1000 mic to a C800.
@@MakePopMusic quite possibly so but you used a bunch of non Sony mics in this vid that I prob never wouid have reached for. I think with your talents you could possibly make the C100 sound almost identical at a fraction of the price. My main mic is Telefunken U47 on nearly every song I release however, I did use the C100 and noticed it has a much tighter and forward sound which I can def hear from the C800. I have never sang through C800. The C100 needed way more De-essing though than the U47. But I think it would make for a great comparison if you could do a comparison video for us and try and make it work for the person who can not afford to own the C800. The top mics typically are the telefunken U47, telefunken ElA m251, Neumann U67, Sony c800, & shure SM7b. Beyond those, seems it’s hit or miss. But not everyone has your skills and clearly you can make average gear sound really great.
If you have an Apollo, please let me know your favorite unison preamp (or whatever preamp you have), because that sound is smooth. Sometimes the preamp really determines the overall sound
21:34 - This is the EXACT WHOLE POINT of the entire video. You'd want to buy and invest in the best of gears only if your ROI meets you back. Otherwise, unless if you're made of money doing music as a hobbyist, I suppose use what you have and make good music with it. Inspiration will come from seeing the seed you sow on hard work making it to the chart, not just having expensive tools laying around underutilised.
2 was the best but this is going thru the rme pre using a great pre is just as important as the mic i think you should do this same test thru a 73 or api style pre and see what mics come to life
I guessed mic 5 was the c800g, then downloaded the files and.... youtube audio compression is crazy, they sounded pretty similar in tone but I thought it was just you having different takes with a bit different tone, but listening to the raw audio, number 5 has that background noise and more kinda cheaper sound to it, still kinda similar, but when you have them side by side without yt compression the differences are huge.
Hahah this is so interesting! I just looked at the files and man…what I personally liked (mic 6) is the one that you disliked the most and said you would never use it 🤣 Also, my second choose was mic number 3, a 289$ mic. That mic was ranked place 6 from your perspective. The one I disliked the most was mic number 8 which you ranked second. So, my favorite mics in this scenario all costs under 350$! The ones I disliked the most were the second most expensive mic from the shootout! Our choices couldn’t be more polarized! I wonder how biased you were by yourself in this shootout. I don’t think that, as you said, the Sony has the most depth to it. Warner and fuller sounds always tend to have more depth to it than flat sounds, not always though, but I would make the claim that the Sony is not able to reproduce depth the way a U47 does! Interestingly, my favorite mic n this scenario is the one that The Weeknd and Michael Jackson used a lot. This makes sense because your voice sounds The Weeknd-ish. Maybe do a song with the SM7B! Very revealing results from the shootout!
The shootout and tests were all straight into the interface. I usually use a RND Newton or a Heritage HA81A. I didn’t compare this to a telefunken directly. But the 251 generally has a little more air above 12k and less punch around the high mids.
I know I'm a little late to the party, but do you think I should invest in getting the slate ML1 or just save up more money to buy a better option. I keep going back and forth in my head and don't know what I should do lol
Tbh I like the Neumann u87 Ai a lot better, for less than half the price aswell, you can get a used one for 2500-3000k usd and for rap vocals it’s just better imo, more popular 2 in most pro studios I would recommend you compare the 2, maybe for singing and rnb the Sony is better
@ can you make a video of comparison of different high end mics? I’m curious to see regardless if I disagree, maybe put in some different styles of vocals or instruments aswell
@@JuanNungaray they're not even comparable mics. In terms of specs, sound, usage, etc. I don't know why everyone thinks the U87 would ever be lined up with a C800. I can see a 251, Manley Ref, Lewitt 1040, Lauten Eden, etc. All those mics are bright and could be swapped for a C800 in instances. I would never swap a U87 for a C800 or vice versa.
you can never say that. it might be worth it for one person and be a horrible choice for someone else. your perfect mic can cost 60 dollars or 11k. you can just not generalise with sth that depends so heavily on a unique voice
@@delicateofficial7670You kinda can say that. The “actually worth it” means “is it sonically that much better than other mics” and that answer is clearly no. Especially after processing. That’s why Austin went into such detail about why he bought it, as it’s not just about the sound. It’s basically a statement piece. Something that says “look I’m a pro” to artists considering hiring you. It’s a Ferrari- overpriced as a car, but not as a symbol.
In this day and age with technology and how much the audio world has evolved. This mic is not a must have. Too many great microphones out now. Dont get me wrong, this microphone is a great mic. If you have the money go for it. Just know you are buying the name and the reputation. It doesnt devalue. Its just not a “ must have” to make great records.
I was surprised by Mic 9. I think that something may be wrong with yours. I have the other flagship mic from the same company and it requires no top end boost. Thanks for sharing.
I've heard the AA and I don't like it at all. It doesn't sound anything like a Sony to me. The Golden Age clone is amazing and I've heard great things about the Stam clone too.
i would say the cm800t is just a darker cousin, but they got the same crispiness and clarity and transformer tone, i have both mics, ill try to do a shootout for yall
6 is my favorite mic! Love that warm sound. 3 is similar, not as fat and warm. 5 might be the Sony. 8 sounds horrible. It all depends on what you like and the context, and the vision of the song.
@@JuanNungaray idc about the brand, if the sound is right. And I do care about my money. I won't be that dumb and pay 10k because of a logo if the sound is almost the same.
@ I care about my money that’s why I invested in the real thing, now that it went up in value it’s a win for me and will keep going up, sadly you can’t say that about knockoffs they depreciate greatly in value, so who made the smarter move at the end of the day? Cheers!
Imo The sibilant problem is enginers Who just put expensive mics on artist Like if an artist could use a darker mic the just use a bright one bcs its expensive And then boost the High end with eq bcs everyone does that
That! AND most people try to mix a c800 or 251 like a u87 or something and it's just SO different. I think most people WAY overcook their C800 with eq. It doesn't need that much tbh.
Thank you so much for this video! Was just listening in my MM-500's to your recordings and tried just a tiny bit of compression + reverb and the Eden mic sounds the best in my opinion, at least on your voice. The Sony mic is such an amazing tool to have, so congrats on getting your hands on one! .........lil' question.........What analogue gear did you use to record the vocals for the piano song?
No analog gear! It was all straight into my RME UFXii mic in. My normal chain is the RND Newton or the Heritage HA81A into an AudioScape 76d and Opto Comp
I jumped straight into a shootout and bro, C800 is great, but $289 for LA220 is a real bargain. Is this the best budget mic on the market? In my opinion yes
The 220 and the JZ Blackhole 2 were show stealers at their price range! The only mics I actually hated were the SM7b and the AA 251. The rest were all solid. Eden and C800 were next level though.
@@MakePopMusic good to hear it, I'm not too fond of the sound of SM7b either. Even its lookalike from Universal Audio, the SD1 mic is way better and has a brighter and more pleasant sound. I'm in the SM7 hate club ngl🤣
Bit misleading to say that Justin Bieber or other artists used that mic because is has such a specific sound. Truth is, they used more OTHER mics than than the Sony, even more expensive ones like U47 or, more often, U87. Not because studios couldn’t afford the Sony, just because they preferred to use another mic. So, you could make the same statement about the U87 or U47 with most of the artists you mentioned. It would also be true. That said, there are some rappers who really only want to use this mic because it’s part of their signature sound. Drake, Travis Scott, Future, just to name a few. Personally, I don’t like the sound so much, although I own a transformerless C800 capsule mic.
imho, the best capture for the c800g is a warmer preamp, because you can really hear those highs get aggressive on a singer who's tone is prominent in the high mid to high end range. Belting into that mic it begins to get harsh. Again just my opinion. The 251 however, I feel is better than the c800. Another thing, for mics like these, don't waste time on the clones, because they will disappoint and make you feel like the real deals aren't worth it. Dope video Austin.
Winner of the shootout - Slate ML1. Throw a FabFilter MB at 230Hz -10db + 460Hz -2db (super narrow fast att/rel + infinity ratio), add expander band at 3200Hz (+2.5db). Add Slate Revival Thickness +13-18 and it beats the Sony all day long.
It’s so interesting how different peoples ears and taste are because I truly hated that one. No low end, it sounded cold and stale, and the sibilance was wild. It felt super one dimension compared to every other mic in the shootout to me personally.
@@MakePopMusic Well, I'm going for "finished sound" that would sit in a pop track. I feel like C800, if pushed would bring some of the abrasiveness in the high end out. Slate, after those adjustments I describe, doesn't need any more high end boost. One thing that I feel the ML-1 does lack is the the weight in the voice crackle. I think maybe some low band saturation would help there.
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What's your favorite mic?!
yes 😁
Mic 5 sounded great
Sennheiser e835, no need to buy anything else for what I do. In general you can EQ most mic recordings to sound how it needs to sound for the track and vocal.
Elam 251
3,5,&9 were my faves. Now I need to go look at see which ones those were.
As someone with similar vocals, who has tried thousands of dollars worth of mics, preamps, etc. It's super validating to hear mic 2 performed well for you guys. That's the one I've settled on to cut vocals & I've been so happy with it! Congrats on this milestone - this is a huge win!
Your videos come out an hour before I finish working - always ending my week on a perfect note! Thanks man
holy, the vocals at 9:00 without the plugins already sound so good!
I was shocked how clear my vocals with NOTHING were. I ran it through my actual analog vocal chain to and I swear to god I may never need to process it in the box hahaha
@@MakePopMusic I can definitely relate! (although not an 11k mic) I recently got a Universal Audio Bock 187 mic, a good pre-amp and an analog wa-2a and it feels like black magic! A bit of EQ and the vocals feel so dope already!
The Sony C800G... just what the doctor ordered. Awesome vid, Austin. Always love your content.
I loved this mic shoot out! Very eye opening and helpful to hear the differences and not knowing what they were at the time.. Thank you!
this is an amazing milestone i am very happy for your success
Your partnership with Miranda continues to inspire.
I loved the sound of #4 in the shootout & thought it was the best... after seeing what mic number 4 was it was the microphone I always use for my vocals so it's great to see it getting some love!
the video we’ve all been waiting for
Great video. I've had my C800G since 2014/2015. Got it for around $8k. I also have a U87AI, Flea47, and Brauner Phantom AE. Next im going to get the ELA M 251T.
Super helpful video Austin, it was fun doing the blind test plus it removes any bias from our true feelings on how each mic actually sounds. Keep up the awesome work! Much respect! ✌😎 - Cole Mize
I really liked mic 7 I’m impressed with the reveal, thanks for doing this
Thank you for the content, brother. It's always a pleasure to see the upload notification.
Mic sounds amazing! Crystal clear, bright but not harsh and still full. One day I want one😏
Thank you for you honest opinion!! Learned a lot from this channel! ❤
Can’t get enough of your videos! ❤
No mic should cost that much money. That said, I think the Sony was either 7 or 4.. possibly 8. 5 and 9 sounded the worst. The rest sounded really good, just not as saturated in the top end like i would expect from the Sony. Fun video!
Why? Because you can’t afford one? Is that like saying no car should cost $1 million? Is that like saying no Guitar should cost $50,000? Who are you to say what anything should cost… …you fucking idiot
Best C800G review. I have the Stam audio clone and it certainly gets the job done.
Was shocked to find that my favorite out of the group was the Lauten LA-320. That thing sounds incredible.
It's so insane especially for the price
13:49 I'm happy you included the Slate emulation in your shootout!
Love this video! I’m so glad you love the mic. It is such a sick piece to add to the collection!
Great comparison and super interesting results. Thanks Austin!
Just loving your content
My blind rankings were almost identical to yours and Mirandas. I own a JZ BH2 and i love it
Sounds like the Sony the the Eden were the favs of Miranda, I'm guessing.
The Sony C80, very close sound, same capsule materials, significanly cheaper. I use this mic and with a bit of EQ you are in the same playing field. I doubt the C800 is a waste of money as it probably holds its value but you need to be able to justify it.
im buying this mic next i see no one speak about it much but i think its probably a really good mic in its price range
The C80 is one of my favorites!
C80 was trash! I used it for a few hours and sold it the next day !
@@vontreherumaiBH lol
@ 🧢!!! The C80 is not a C800G but nowhere near trash! I’ve used it on a few projects
I was comparing it on my vocals vs Telefunken ELAM 251 and despite ELAM was more smooth and less sibilant I still decided to use Sony because it was bringing me more forward and bright sound I was looking for.
that forward punch really is unmatched
I got this two years ago, I almost ended up with the ELA M, but this one always had the most publicity was always the highest praised within the industry whether by Justin Bieber, Dre, etc. I use it for Pop and it's still my fav
Some people like the ELA more, but the Sony and ELA always come extremely close
I had to buy mine for $21,000, because I would've had to wait over 2 years. I actually pre-ordered it at first, but cancelled months later. On the receipt from Reverb, the owner waited 2 and a half years just for it to ship, just to resell it brand new from Vintage I believe
Amazing mic! If by any chance, one day you'll be able to get a hold of Stam Audio's clone (the newer version) SA-800G then pls compare it with the original Sony. Some say it's the best clone.
Great sound terrible company and I hope they see this worst company I ever dealt with
On my ten year old TV (great for testing audio 😂) i still preferred the 4 on all ranges, the 7 sounded great with the low range too but 4 was the only real standout across the board. There were others that sounded pretty "bad" across the board too. Excited to see the results!
Hahahaha it's wild how EVERY source and EVERY person so far has said 4 on top, 7 right after
I fully agree that Mic 4 was overall the best. Thanks for this!
love the new "old" hair
Get the Hazzelrig VLC & VNE.. stick a fork in it! I heard you giving shout outs.. definitely thank your wife! 🙏🏼 she sounds super cool like my wife! It is an investment nice work, brother! Respect
Working on it!! The Hazelrigg stuff is my favorite hardware I’ve ever used. It’s so good
One microphone that is often overlooked on UA-cam is the Manley reference cardiod, which is just so good.
I know a ton of people who love it but that mic has never done it for me personally.
too harsh and sterile. no bueno....especially for the money.
I liked 1 and 4, 4 was better than 1.. also liked 7.. I thought 4 was better with every test.. 1 and 7 didn't sound as good with later tests. When I watched a different youtube video of sony 800, i also commented that it sounded as if there is some built in compression on high end. thanks for sharing!
Glad you're happy with your purchase! I do not jive with the (IMO) extremely bright sound of the C800 at all, but I don't want to rain on your parade. :D
I get it, but I don’t find it extremely bright tbh. It’s bright but it’s even and controlled to me personally.
I really like the sound of the one of the earlier versions that didnt have the heatsink
That’s crazy. I liked 4,5, and 7
Good preamp with a SM7B and good EQ Compression for the best vocals
❤ Cool. I was the first GC Pro guy in the Bay Area. Great connect man. And wow, Miranda is such a gem 💎 My poor wife has to deal with both me AND my kid with gear stuff. 😂
Overall i though the Slate was the most under-performing, at least on your voice. Not sure how the other emulations are but honestly, I'd rather buy the best "real" mic within my budget, that meets my vocal needs. Thanks for sharing the shootout, great to hear the tonal differences between these mics AND between these ranges.
I 100% agree.
One additional thought... for the price of that one Sony mic, you could literally buy ALL the other microphones in the test, and still have change left for a 1073 and a decent compressor ;-) ouch!
Our GCPRO crew in nashville is THE BEST hands down
Thank you for the video. Interesting stuff!
Nice video🙂. I have the neumann u87ai . And the avalon vt737sp. And ad2022.
Great work man thanks for doing this
woo this is an amazing mic
Can you get the Sony C100 and compare and see how much different they are with your golden ears and eq talents?
It won’t be anything alike. It isn’t a tube mic, it uses a different capsule, all different electronics on the inside.
It’s basically like comparing any other $1000 mic to a C800.
@@MakePopMusic quite possibly so but you used a bunch of non Sony mics in this vid that I prob never wouid have reached for. I think with your talents you could possibly make the C100 sound almost identical at a fraction of the price. My main mic is Telefunken U47 on nearly every song I release however, I did use the C100 and noticed it has a much tighter and forward sound which I can def hear from the C800. I have never sang through C800. The C100 needed way more De-essing though than the U47. But I think it would make for a great comparison if you could do a comparison video for us and try and make it work for the person who can not afford to own the C800. The top mics typically are the telefunken U47, telefunken ElA m251, Neumann U67, Sony c800, & shure SM7b. Beyond those, seems it’s hit or miss. But not everyone has your skills and clearly you can make average gear sound really great.
If you have an Apollo, please let me know your favorite unison preamp (or whatever preamp you have), because that sound is smooth. Sometimes the preamp really determines the overall sound
I don't use Apollo but I'd say 1073 unison would be best
@@MakePopMusic Well, I do like the UAD Neve 1084, so I guess I'm on the right track (no pun intended) haha
yes it is worth it.
21:34 - This is the EXACT WHOLE POINT of the entire video. You'd want to buy and invest in the best of gears only if your ROI meets you back. Otherwise, unless if you're made of money doing music as a hobbyist, I suppose use what you have and make good music with it. Inspiration will come from seeing the seed you sow on hard work making it to the chart, not just having expensive tools laying around underutilised.
Wow, mic 6 makes you sound like The Weeknd! That is so awesome!
2 was the best but this is going thru the rme pre using a great pre is just as important as the mic i think you should do this same test thru a 73 or api style pre and see what mics come to life
I bought the WarmAudio WA8000 as a sony c800g clone. It would be cool to see the differences between these two
I second this
my favorite mic is 4, then second place is 5, im pretty sure 4 is the sony c800g, i hear something super clear and open about the voice, lets see
"hi guys! :)" - miranda @ 5:20
Thank you!
I guessed mic 5 was the c800g, then downloaded the files and.... youtube audio compression is crazy, they sounded pretty similar in tone but I thought it was just you having different takes with a bit different tone, but listening to the raw audio, number 5 has that background noise and more kinda cheaper sound to it, still kinda similar, but when you have them side by side without yt compression the differences are huge.
Hahah this is so interesting! I just looked at the files and man…what I personally liked (mic 6) is the one that you disliked the most and said you would never use it 🤣
Also, my second choose was mic number 3, a 289$ mic. That mic was ranked place 6 from your perspective.
The one I disliked the most was mic number 8 which you ranked second.
So, my favorite mics in this scenario all costs under 350$!
The ones I disliked the most were the second most expensive mic from the shootout!
Our choices couldn’t be more polarized!
I wonder how biased you were by yourself in this shootout. I don’t think that, as you said, the Sony has the most depth to it. Warner and fuller sounds always tend to have more depth to it than flat sounds, not always though, but I would make the claim that the Sony is not able to reproduce depth the way a U47 does!
Interestingly, my favorite mic n this scenario is the one that The Weeknd and Michael Jackson used a lot. This makes sense because your voice sounds The Weeknd-ish.
Maybe do a song with the SM7B!
Very revealing results from the shootout!
Sound great 👍
What's it going into ???? How did the telefunken compare?? What pre amps do you have ?
The shootout and tests were all straight into the interface.
I usually use a RND Newton or a Heritage HA81A.
I didn’t compare this to a telefunken directly. But the 251 generally has a little more air above 12k and less punch around the high mids.
hey do you think you can make a video on how your room is treated to record
Got a studio tour coming in the next couple months!
I know I'm a little late to the party, but do you think I should invest in getting the slate ML1 or just save up more money to buy a better option. I keep going back and forth in my head and don't know what I should do lol
Slate mic isn't bad and at 299 it's a steal
I have an Eden and I can say on this shootout it sounded like one of the worst. Which mic voicing did you have it set to? 7 sounded the best to me!
Really? It was by farrrrr my second favorite.
It’s on forward, which I always use.
Your ears are messed up lol, that mic sounded great at least on this example it did.
Tbh I like the Neumann u87 Ai a lot better, for less than half the price aswell, you can get a used one for 2500-3000k usd and for rap vocals it’s just better imo, more popular 2 in most pro studios I would recommend you compare the 2, maybe for singing and rnb the Sony is better
I don’t really like the u87 at all honestly. I love the 149, and 67 though. 87 is so boring and flat to me on 80% of sources I’ve used it in
@ can you make a video of comparison of different high end mics? I’m curious to see regardless if I disagree, maybe put in some different styles of vocals or instruments aswell
The hate is real, just because you can’t afford it 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️ I own both and the Sony kills the U87
@@JuanNungaray they're not even comparable mics. In terms of specs, sound, usage, etc. I don't know why everyone thinks the U87 would ever be lined up with a C800. I can see a 251, Manley Ref, Lewitt 1040, Lauten Eden, etc. All those mics are bright and could be swapped for a C800 in instances. I would never swap a U87 for a C800 or vice versa.
It’s worth it. Most people just can’t afford it.
Wake up mum- Austin dropped a new Video!
Is This $11,000 Microphone Actually Worth It? No.
you can never say that. it might be worth it for one person and be a horrible choice for someone else. your perfect mic can cost 60 dollars or 11k. you can just not generalise with sth that depends so heavily on a unique voice
@@delicateofficial7670You kinda can say that. The “actually worth it” means “is it sonically that much better than other mics” and that answer is clearly no. Especially after processing.
That’s why Austin went into such detail about why he bought it, as it’s not just about the sound. It’s basically a statement piece. Something that says “look I’m a pro” to artists considering hiring you. It’s a Ferrari- overpriced as a car, but not as a symbol.
Its actually $15K
don't hate because you can't afford it. lmfao
I guess you can justify it as a business expense and a Tax write-off 😂, rather than paying it to the government.
In this day and age with technology and how much the audio world has evolved. This mic is not a must have. Too many great microphones out now. Dont get me wrong, this microphone is a great mic. If you have the money go for it. Just know you are buying the name and the reputation. It doesnt devalue. Its just not a “ must have” to make great records.
Exactly my thoughts
I was surprised by Mic 9. I think that something may be wrong with yours. I have the other flagship mic from the same company and it requires no top end boost. Thanks for sharing.
Maybe I’ll reach out because I remember liking the mic and when I tried it on the shootout it was disgusting
Totally unrelated but what watch is that? It’s sick!
Tag Heuer Carrera Calibre 5!
Was in the market to get a Tudor Black Bay but then I had to go and spend $11k on a mic lol
If you have a chance take a test for the: Advanced Audio cm800t ✌🏻😉
I've heard the AA and I don't like it at all. It doesn't sound anything like a Sony to me. The Golden Age clone is amazing and I've heard great things about the Stam clone too.
@ oh okay. Thank you for your feedback. Much fun with the original. ✨🎶🙂✌🏻
@@MakePopMusicThe Golden age was so so amazing Sony stopped them for selling in the US
i would say the cm800t is just a darker cousin, but they got the same crispiness and clarity and transformer tone, i have both mics, ill try to do a shootout for yall
@ Awesome! Please let me know if you have the video online.
6 is my favorite mic! Love that warm sound.
3 is similar, not as fat and warm.
5 might be the Sony.
8 sounds horrible.
It all depends on what you like and the context, and the vision of the song.
Where can I see the mic identities? Who won?
Sorry nvm I downloaded the file.
I actually liked mic 5 the most.. slightly more than 4.. and after seeing the key I'm surprised.
Please please please brent iii type song soon 🙏🙏🙏
Yikes! 💰Good on you man! It’s pretty
the GA8000 or the Stan Audio are absolutely enough. The differences are absolutely not worth the price difference of 10k.
Who wants to see a crappy knock off sitting in their studio, at least not me lol.
@@JuanNungaray idc about the brand, if the sound is right. And I do care about my money. I won't be that dumb and pay 10k because of a logo if the sound is almost the same.
@ I care about my money that’s why I invested in the real thing, now that it went up in value it’s a win for me and will keep going up, sadly you can’t say that about knockoffs they depreciate greatly in value, so who made the smarter move at the end of the day? Cheers!
Imo
The sibilant problem is enginers Who just put expensive mics on artist
Like if an artist could use a darker mic the just use a bright one bcs its expensive
And then boost the High end with eq bcs everyone does that
That! AND most people try to mix a c800 or 251 like a u87 or something and it's just SO different. I think most people WAY overcook their C800 with eq. It doesn't need that much tbh.
he said it went straight into the RME.. but i can hear the external pre amp..
No you can’t. Cause there isn’t an external preamp being used. lol
@@MakePopMusic sure...
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Probably not the best mic, but recently, I've been really loving the SC-1 from universal audio 😅
LAUTEN AUDIO EDEN OR SONY C800?
@@berdeauxlaveau6515 epic. Exactly what i commented. Too many great microphones nowadays.
@ I really would love a shootout of both mics.
Ah yes...music gear more expensive than my car. Classic
Sorry bout ur car
Thank you so much for this video! Was just listening in my MM-500's to your recordings and tried just a tiny bit of compression + reverb and the Eden mic sounds the best in my opinion, at least on your voice. The Sony mic is such an amazing tool to have, so congrats on getting your hands on one! .........lil' question.........What analogue gear did you use to record the vocals for the piano song?
No analog gear! It was all straight into my RME UFXii mic in.
My normal chain is the RND Newton or the Heritage HA81A into an AudioScape 76d and Opto Comp
@@MakePopMusic which settings on the Eden mic did you use? Neutral?
Forward
I jumped straight into a shootout and bro, C800 is great, but $289 for LA220 is a real bargain. Is this the best budget mic on the market? In my opinion yes
The 220 and the JZ Blackhole 2 were show stealers at their price range!
The only mics I actually hated were the SM7b and the AA 251. The rest were all solid.
Eden and C800 were next level though.
@@MakePopMusic good to hear it, I'm not too fond of the sound of SM7b either. Even its lookalike from Universal Audio, the SD1 mic is way better and has a brighter and more pleasant sound. I'm in the SM7 hate club ngl🤣
I have a u87 and I’ve been trying to figure out its differences from the c800g for the longest
Basically everything. Different components, different capsules, different tones and characters. Apples and oranges.
Is this the mic that uses a water stabilizer system?
What an amazing mic ! Great investment better than having cash sitting in bank 😎
This person gets it 🙏🏻
Dang bro, that’s crazy $20,000 between your monitors and one microphone lol congrats though!
Oh Yeah 🎉
where do I see which mic was which?
Bit misleading to say that Justin Bieber or other artists used that mic because is has such a specific sound. Truth is, they used more OTHER mics than than the Sony, even more expensive ones like U47 or, more often, U87. Not because studios couldn’t afford the Sony, just because they preferred to use another mic.
So, you could make the same statement about the U87 or U47 with most of the artists you mentioned. It would also be true.
That said, there are some rappers who really only want to use this mic because it’s part of their signature sound. Drake, Travis Scott, Future, just to name a few.
Personally, I don’t like the sound so much, although I own a transformerless C800 capsule mic.
MIC 4
I saw you commenting on mike dean's insta-post haha!! Great choice very amazing microphone, enjoy recording :)
Mike is the goat
@@MakePopMusic Yessir, sure is
I downloaded the files and the answer key but there was no list as to which mics maybe I missed something s they were maybe i missed something
Nevermind I found it Duh
imho, the best capture for the c800g is a warmer preamp, because you can really hear those highs get aggressive on a singer who's tone is prominent in the high mid to high end range. Belting into that mic it begins to get harsh. Again just my opinion. The 251 however, I feel is better than the c800. Another thing, for mics like these, don't waste time on the clones, because they will disappoint and make you feel like the real deals aren't worth it. Dope video Austin.
You haven't heard the Stam one, sound amazing, nothing like Warm Audio.
Fax u need the cl1b with the c800. Thats what most studios combine it with anyway BUT still the very best possible mic or a 251
nah the 251 wont beat the Sony, tried them both on different sources, The Sony came home with me.
Winner of the shootout - Slate ML1. Throw a FabFilter MB at 230Hz -10db + 460Hz -2db (super narrow fast att/rel + infinity ratio), add expander band at 3200Hz (+2.5db). Add Slate Revival Thickness +13-18 and it beats the Sony all day long.
It’s so interesting how different peoples ears and taste are because I truly hated that one. No low end, it sounded cold and stale, and the sibilance was wild.
It felt super one dimension compared to every other mic in the shootout to me personally.
@@MakePopMusic Well, I'm going for "finished sound" that would sit in a pop track. I feel like C800, if pushed would bring some of the abrasiveness in the high end out. Slate, after those adjustments I describe, doesn't need any more high end boost. One thing that I feel the ML-1 does lack is the the weight in the voice crackle. I think maybe some low band saturation would help there.
Sorry, but how u get the black color bars on windows window? 😀
We just crop it in premiere pro
Mxl has mic comparable for $250!
Advanced Audio Microphones copies supposedly better sounding coz Dave knows his stuff!
C800 is unmatched unless u use the 251
I’ll get one of those eventually