it's mostly how the deck wins but more often through "deal X to every creature" (think burn down the house on a wide board) type effect where it creates a ton of extra damage to redistribute to face
I'm the Phylath deck at 27:30, you were trying to predict so many cards I don't have in my deck that I feel like I should run now that you pointed them all out haha. I definitely didn't expect the eerie ultimatum after the return to nature, you made me change how I use it, normally I get the salty scoop after I play it, now I'm saving it till It's a guaranteed win or loss.
The moment I saw the Toralf deck go off, I thought, "Oh. Oh that's clever." Never doubt the ability for the Magic community to carve out a wincon from forgotten cards.
I'm currently building it for commander and it revolves a lot on bigger red mass damage spells like chain reaction, blasphemous act, etc but I hadn't thought of the compounding effect with fiery emancipation to turn a shock or lightning bolt into lethal
@@nikoboivin try searching for double damage and red cards on scryfall, there should be 7 or 8 cards that you can use plus the fiery emancipation. The boardwipes are hard since toralf itself dies and then you don’t have his triggers, since Toralf isn’t there anymore to deal damage. Edit: Nevermind it works like you wanted, you just can’t profit further after the first “wave” of triggers.
@@archerjagv2993 oh no I’m well aware and already have a few of them in the deck (plus Torbran for good measure). Was giving fiery as an example and the most likely to be able to snowball into a deadly shock but yes, very valid point!
Love your historic Brawl Content! A deck I've been playing and been able to hide from hell Queue is Yarrok, getting all those Double etb triggers, fun time!
As much as i agree theres problems with arena, i wouldnt call it the developers fault, not only is it likely they have way less control on how they want things to run (usually due to administrative positions or higher ups making those choices) but WOTC is known for paying their workers less than industry standard for "having the honor to work with them".
Paying below standard is not just wotc, the whole game development sector is hugely underpaid compared to what programmers would get in literally any other company. Where people like their work, you can be sure to find some greedy company to get them to work for such bad conditions.
actually, matchmaking pairing mirrors probably IS one of the things the dev team worked on. I'd be very surprised if WOTC management made that call. Things beyond Devs control would be which cards get added, art, and monetization from the shop, rewards, etc.
I love having fun with shrines (I have so many cloned decks with slight-decently big differences), and one card I like running consistently in most of them is Zur, Eternal Schemer. So fun
AWESOME AMAZING SWEET VERY COOL MUST WATCH!!!!! Ty for more Historic Brawl video CGB please keep em coming this deck is insane I knew shrine have power but not this much insane interaction had no idea it could grab stuff from graveyard the synergy is very cool especially with saga I agree shrine should be queues with the strongest decks I enjoyed every second of it and 🎶 a hour + with CGB is a very cool day indeed 🎶 I stayed till the end even through commercial for more support and I can't wait to see what you do next and please never forget CGB you're cool 😎🤟🏽❤️
WOW didn't see that coming ty CGB I know you said you hate shrine especially when Blake was doing shrine but it can be hard to not want that values 😎🤟🏽❤️
If you look closely at CGB watching the toralf go off, you can pinpoint the exact moment his faith in mtg was restored after 69420 hours of slogging through boros to make content
Honestly, loved the rant. MTGA's devs and game design direction does not get enough discussion in the community at large. The sound bug really should have been fixed by now, and the poor matchmaking expiriance and abandonment of card animations really makes me sad. Wizards really has to be making bank on this game, would a little reinvesment and love put back into the game really cost that much? Anyways, huge fan CGB, keep up the good work!
The sound issue is super interesting. It doesn't actually stop anyone playing it, so it becomes easy to minimise. But if you actually stop to think for a moment how insane it is such a huge game has no sound it's madness
that toralf deck.... wow, under appreciated card, and he curved out perfectly. that was impressive, going to try to make that deck, doubt it works a lot of the time, but worth it for the few times it does.
It is interesting to see how other people build Go-Shintai but I also see so many people use tri-tap lands or the like which makes the deck run so slow. There is a simple elegance to land based ramp to get all your colors.
Hearing CGB say hexproof on sterling grove all video, saying to myself as a go-shintai commander player "it's shroud though" everytime and then it hit him... Feels bad man. I sympathize with you.
Game recognizes game. In my defense, I have had The Shuffler name in game since Zendikar Rising after watching a few UA-camrs reference it as the plague of mtga. Everyone loves a villain and it was my gift to my opponents to be paired against The Shuffler.
Go-Shintai of Life's Origin is the first EDH I've built from the ground up, and it's a monster. Granted I play in a casual group, but I bust it out only in special occasions. I almost decked myself in multiple occasions, lol.
Really? Add all the shrines, lands, then a good stuff pile of ramp, draw, removal and enchantments payoff. It seems incredibly linear and easy to build
Okay, I have to stan for Solphim. I'd love to see a different list than one of the, what, 3.5 or so lists that are everywhere right now, if that's even possible.
I've been making strange shrine decks since before neon dynasty. You play the shrines but I grew up with the shrines, molded by them. It's fun to crush all the new players netdecking some shrines :]
Okay but on a serious note why aren’t you running the big enchantments to whip back? Like with Sythis and omniscience you can essentially play your whole deck like the deck imo should be build as an enchantress deck with all the shrines to feed the engine the only sad part is that we don’t have opalesence to turn all the dumb enchantments into creatures lol
1:02:27 you mentioned from glass door that the devs are paid under market rate. And game development is probably the shittiest area of IT to work in. It's not surprising the dev team aren't the most motivated and will also be not that qualified
I enjoyed the rants on WotC's "aspirant" level of matchmaking and terrible programming lol Sad to say that as soon as I saw Toralf, I knew how that game was going to end. It's a really neat one trick pony from what I've seen so far.
@@nottsfhj I'll play against it once a day, maybe even twice if I'm really feeling like a good boy. But beyond that, I think you have a stronger constitution than I do.
@@keithsdrawer no im absolutely sick of it. I maybe wouldn't mind if It wasn't every other match, but if I'm not playing a combo deck that basically doesn't care what the opponent does unless I'm actually dead, it's annoying to play
historic brawl is pretty much the only thing I play because I simply have no time (nor money) to craft standard decks, this deck is a nightmare match up against my green red Minsc and Boo deck, I need a perfect draw and it is still too slow
I been seeing this deck ALOT in historic brawl and it is so hard to play ageist but yours looks super hard to beat! so im going to copy it but I think I'll have more fun playing my Jetmir deck lol just today I beat a golos deck because they did nothing but ramp and I was like....ok don't mind me just going to make 8 tokens and then play jetmir and win the game
Is Sisay in Historic Brawl? I use Sisay for my shrine commander, cos he can tutor up all of the shrines, including Go-Shintai of Life's Bounty, and Sanctum of All
Yep, she is in his deck. Don’t play her as the commander in brawl unless you want to be in the hell queue. No clue why she hasn’t been rotated out of there.
Shrines are my favorite cedh deck. They combo off each other so well and win in a lot of different ways, definitely the most powerful non-infinite combo deck I’ve seen at this point.
Thank you for stepping outside the realm of only Standard content... huge fan keep it up!
Agreed
Hear here here! I forgot which one was the right one....
That Toralf combo kill was so wicked. Probably only rarely happens but it's such an endorphin rush when it does.
it's mostly how the deck wins but more often through "deal X to every creature" (think burn down the house on a wide board) type effect where it creates a ton of extra damage to redistribute to face
On paper you could run the land that taps for any colour and gives them a 1/1 spirit... c: start the chain off strong
I'm the Phylath deck at 27:30, you were trying to predict so many cards I don't have in my deck that I feel like I should run now that you pointed them all out haha. I definitely didn't expect the eerie ultimatum after the return to nature, you made me change how I use it, normally I get the salty scoop after I play it, now I'm saving it till It's a guaranteed win or loss.
Great match, congrats :D
@@RafaelAAMerlo I think I had all lands in my hand lol
The moment I saw the Toralf deck go off, I thought, "Oh. Oh that's clever."
Never doubt the ability for the Magic community to carve out a wincon from forgotten cards.
Well said. Definitely made me smile when dude went off
I'm currently building it for commander and it revolves a lot on bigger red mass damage spells like chain reaction, blasphemous act, etc but I hadn't thought of the compounding effect with fiery emancipation to turn a shock or lightning bolt into lethal
ahahaha! I'm laughing SO HARD at a show turning into 98 dmg to face, that is an insane combo :D :D
@@nikoboivin try searching for double damage and red cards on scryfall, there should be 7 or 8 cards that you can use plus the fiery emancipation. The boardwipes are hard since toralf itself dies and then you don’t have his triggers, since Toralf isn’t there anymore to deal damage.
Edit: Nevermind it works like you wanted, you just can’t profit further after the first “wave” of triggers.
@@archerjagv2993 oh no I’m well aware and already have a few of them in the deck (plus Torbran for good measure). Was giving fiery as an example and the most likely to be able to snowball into a deadly shock but yes, very valid point!
That fiery emancipation toralf shock wincon was beautiful
The moment he let that enchantment stay on the field I knew he was gonna get burned out instantly.
Yeah... When I saw he play Go-Shintai and attack I thought he'd either get burned to the face or hasted/trampled over. Red decks go brrrr
I remember when that card came out and everybody was saying it was bad, clunky, winmore...and I felt insane, like we weren't reading the same card.
I was waiting to hear "the shuffler is fine" in patreon thanks.
Love the historic Brawl content. Only reason why I play arena.
We need a CGB Toralf brawl deck now
That lethal shock was incredible lol
Love your historic Brawl Content! A deck I've been playing and been able to hide from hell Queue is Yarrok, getting all those Double etb triggers, fun time!
Hell queue when you are not a hell queue deck is really sad
As much as i agree theres problems with arena, i wouldnt call it the developers fault, not only is it likely they have way less control on how they want things to run (usually due to administrative positions or higher ups making those choices) but WOTC is known for paying their workers less than industry standard for "having the honor to work with them".
Paying below standard is not just wotc, the whole game development sector is hugely underpaid compared to what programmers would get in literally any other company. Where people like their work, you can be sure to find some greedy company to get them to work for such bad conditions.
actually, matchmaking pairing mirrors probably IS one of the things the dev team worked on. I'd be very surprised if WOTC management made that call. Things beyond Devs control would be which cards get added, art, and monetization from the shop, rewards, etc.
I keep facing shrines in brawl. It was so cathartic to see mono red beat shrines.
Love it. Thank you (and LVD) for getting me into this excellent format
Love this content! I have a Go-Shintai EDH deck and it's so much fun to pilot.
That Toralf deck is so fun!!! I hope you can try that deck too
I love having fun with shrines (I have so many cloned decks with slight-decently big differences), and one card I like running consistently in most of them is Zur, Eternal Schemer. So fun
AWESOME AMAZING SWEET VERY COOL MUST WATCH!!!!! Ty for more Historic Brawl video CGB please keep em coming this deck is insane I knew shrine have power but not this much insane interaction had no idea it could grab stuff from graveyard the synergy is very cool especially with saga I agree shrine should be queues with the strongest decks I enjoyed every second of it and 🎶 a hour + with CGB is a very cool day indeed 🎶 I stayed till the end even through commercial for more support and I can't wait to see what you do next and please never forget CGB you're cool 😎🤟🏽❤️
LOVED THE RANTY SEGMENTS! We definitely need a better direction of design and a more staffed team for Arena...
WOW didn't see that coming ty CGB I know you said you hate shrine especially when Blake was doing shrine but it can be hard to not want that values 😎🤟🏽❤️
If you look closely at CGB watching the toralf go off, you can pinpoint the exact moment his faith in mtg was restored after 69420 hours of slogging through boros to make content
Wow I never realized that Toralf's ability snowballed like that with just a simple shock with Fiery Emancipation on board. Haha good to know 😅
Honestly, loved the rant. MTGA's devs and game design direction does not get enough discussion in the community at large. The sound bug really should have been fixed by now, and the poor matchmaking expiriance and abandonment of card animations really makes me sad. Wizards really has to be making bank on this game, would a little reinvesment and love put back into the game really cost that much?
Anyways, huge fan CGB, keep up the good work!
They know their audience. Which is why they know how low the standards are. Record profits don't come from nowhere.
The sound issue is super interesting. It doesn't actually stop anyone playing it, so it becomes easy to minimise. But if you actually stop to think for a moment how insane it is such a huge game has no sound it's madness
that toralf deck.... wow, under appreciated card, and he curved out perfectly. that was impressive, going to try to make that deck, doubt it works a lot of the time, but worth it for the few times it does.
This is one of the most fun decks I've played on arena, period.
It is interesting to see how other people build Go-Shintai but I also see so many people use tri-tap lands or the like which makes the deck run so slow. There is a simple elegance to land based ramp to get all your colors.
Bless you (around 19:40)
"Not the mirror!" I say this every time I fire up the client.
Thank you very much for your time and marvelous gameplay, master CovertGoBlue.
Hearing CGB say hexproof on sterling grove all video, saying to myself as a go-shintai commander player "it's shroud though" everytime and then it hit him... Feels bad man. I sympathize with you.
The shuffler is a troll, and trolling an art. Well done
Game recognizes game. In my defense, I have had The Shuffler name in game since Zendikar Rising after watching a few UA-camrs reference it as the plague of mtga. Everyone loves a villain and it was my gift to my opponents to be paired against The Shuffler.
Hallow haunting and sigil of the empty throne are also amazing in this deck
There are also quite a few enchantments that steal or shut down permanents (read: commanders) that I'm surprised didn't make his list for brawl.
That is sooo better to watch than Standard format.
Love this deck too
Not gonna lie the Toralf beating gave me a good laugh! Nice vid nice deck. You're cool
Go-Shintai of Life's Origin is the first EDH I've built from the ground up, and it's a monster. Granted I play in a casual group, but I bust it out only in special occasions. I almost decked myself in multiple occasions, lol.
Literally building my shrine deck now. All I need is to create some 3 color land cards. Pretty excited to play this deck
When he ignored Kami-ing the Fiery Emancipation I was screaming.
Good to see the best format on the Arena represented. B-)
Once again, I must say I love the brawl/commander games!
Toralf looked fun to play
Gotta love that Patron [Saint of Trolls] 😂😂😂
Been struggling to put a Go-shintai list together in paper. Definitely taking notes here!
Really?
Add all the shrines, lands, then a good stuff pile of ramp, draw, removal and enchantments payoff. It seems incredibly linear and easy to build
Loved to see the raging through the mirror matches
This was fun. If there are any good gates or sliver lists on arena I would love to see your take
The insta-scoop on the rebuke was golden.
That cyc rift scoop was dope
I love standard, but not for month with the same decks. That is why I totally love this Brawl content.
I’ve been tempted to try it irl. Been a lot of fun on arena like few decks are right now.
Okay, I have to stan for Solphim. I'd love to see a different list than one of the, what, 3.5 or so lists that are everywhere right now, if that's even possible.
Gotta say I enjoy the Historic Brawl content.
You could put Brash taunter; with Sanctum of Shattered Heights and a slightly developed board, it is usually gg in 1-2 turns.
I've been making strange shrine decks since before neon dynasty. You play the shrines but I grew up with the shrines, molded by them. It's fun to crush all the new players netdecking some shrines :]
I've come to love the post game wrap ups
Other than discard fodder for the hondens, is there a reason for playing 47 lands here?
Nice deck as usual. Do you try to make a Toralf God of Fury deck yourself? Looks amazing for me.
What changes if any should be made to consider this in paper? Is this a viable deck in paper?
Loved the deck, well decide to not play mirror games, it does get boring ,I myself hate when I run into mirror match on arena
Stayed until the end ✌️
Okay but on a serious note why aren’t you running the big enchantments to whip back? Like with Sythis and omniscience you can essentially play your whole deck like the deck imo should be build as an enchantress deck with all the shrines to feed the engine the only sad part is that we don’t have opalesence to turn all the dumb enchantments into creatures lol
I'd love for you try Explorer Simic Flash. Mainly because I have a hard time piloting it and could need some insight
What about Generous Visitor, would that card be good in this deck?
Blake is probably so happy watching you enjoy this ha
Condundrum: Shrines make me fall asleep. But CGB videos are fun to watch.
Solution: Watch CGB while falling asleep.
I'm sure that mono red player was proud to bamboozle the one. I'm proud of him
Thanks for the Brawl Content!
1:02:27 you mentioned from glass door that the devs are paid under market rate. And game development is probably the shittiest area of IT to work in. It's not surprising the dev team aren't the most motivated and will also be not that qualified
Love seeing you play historic, even though some plays were just sooo greedy 😂 good content though!!
Get hammered! That was epic
I enjoyed the rants on WotC's "aspirant" level of matchmaking and terrible programming lol
Sad to say that as soon as I saw Toralf, I knew how that game was going to end. It's a really neat one trick pony from what I've seen so far.
@5:07 Shuffler is fine :D
I know it’s not always great but flood of tears is also a very good board wipe!
Cool deck! And nice video :D
Man I was trying to play Toad Sage and was always queued into a Go-Shintai it was a nightmare couldn't play the game.
Appreciate the shout out.
That Toralf deck was epic.
Now you need a toralf deck that was wild
I'll definitely be glad when this commander gets moved to the hell queue. I ain't proud of it, but I've started auto-scooping to this insanity.
Depending on the deck you're playing i think it's fair.
@@nottsfhj I'll play against it once a day, maybe even twice if I'm really feeling like a good boy. But beyond that, I think you have a stronger constitution than I do.
@@keithsdrawer no im absolutely sick of it. I maybe wouldn't mind if It wasn't every other match, but if I'm not playing a combo deck that basically doesn't care what the opponent does unless I'm actually dead, it's annoying to play
If I ever watch a CGB video where he doesn't lose to value greed... well, I don't think I ever have.
the synergy if shrines is busted and so satisfying to watch
So is the shuffler fine now?
I love facing shrines when I'm running farewell 😌
Odds are I would never draw (has happened a couple times before), so I usually just scoop if it isn't in my opener lol
historic brawl is pretty much the only thing I play because I simply have no time (nor money) to craft standard decks, this deck is a nightmare match up against my green red Minsc and Boo deck, I need a perfect draw and it is still too slow
Hey cgb would Ren and 7 do good in this shrine deck?
Someone just wanted to hear you call them "Fine" everyday!
I been seeing this deck ALOT in historic brawl and it is so hard to play ageist but yours looks super hard to beat! so im going to copy it but I think I'll have more fun playing my Jetmir deck lol just today I beat a golos deck because they did nothing but ramp and I was like....ok don't mind me just going to make 8 tokens and then play jetmir and win the game
I'm hoping it simmers down when more new commanders released. I hate playing vs it.
Oof, that back to nature can hurt a bit.
Is not sure what Historic Brawl deck to see next but to be honest I want to see them all lol 😎🤟🏽❤️
It's a step down from hell queue, along with 4 mana bolas, t3f, yawgmoth etc.
Wait... Is a shapeshifter also a shrine...?
This deck is why I run Massacre Girl in Brawl ⚔️⚔️⚔️
I love dropping back to nature on shrine decks..
Salt against the mirrors was funny
I don't see Shark Typhoon! It seems like it would be a fun card here.
Can you do a necroduality deck?
Hope you'd try the toralf deck next CGB
This deck slaps harder than a leather belt
I played 4 shrine decks in a row in historic so the queue is also fine :/ cool video tho!
10:00 you wouldn't have had that play even with the watery grave. You didn't have enough red and white lands.
Someone should join his Patreon as "The Matchmaker"
Is Sisay in Historic Brawl? I use Sisay for my shrine commander, cos he can tutor up all of the shrines, including Go-Shintai of Life's Bounty, and Sanctum of All
Yep, she is in his deck. Don’t play her as the commander in brawl unless you want to be in the hell queue. No clue why she hasn’t been rotated out of there.
@@bugsySA not Captain Sisay. You cant play WUBRG cards like Sanctum of all etc with her. I meant Sisay, Weatherlight Captain
@@lindleya oh that’s right, totally forgot that they made another Sisay. I don’t play edh.
Shrines are my favorite cedh deck. They combo off each other so well and win in a lot of different ways, definitely the most powerful non-infinite combo deck I’ve seen at this point.