QB Throwing Mechanics

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  • @paulwatson4436
    @paulwatson4436 8 років тому +4

    Amazing video! Taught a British newbie to the sport how to throw a tight spiral every time!

  • @BitterCupMedia
    @BitterCupMedia 8 років тому +2

    This was a great addition and confirmation to the things we are doing at Madison Park Academy as we are building first year Varsity QBs.

  • @MrKeepnit100
    @MrKeepnit100 3 роки тому

    So glad this video is still up definitely showing it to everyone I know

  • @craigmonk99
    @craigmonk99 11 років тому +2

    Extremely useful video that is very well put together. Thank-you coach!

  • @kushstrapn
    @kushstrapn 6 років тому +24

    I know he thought he was fye asf with that visor

  • @MrKeepnit100
    @MrKeepnit100 7 років тому +1

    I tried this before a flag football game, and lit it UP!!! 5 TDs and barely missed. Granted we were running the Run n Shoot offense modified (called it the A-Gun) but my mechanics and the plays had me on fire.....Al Bundy would be proud

  • @timothyclouatre8433
    @timothyclouatre8433 8 років тому

    My eight yo just got chosen to be QB. I know very little about the position or any football for that matter (wrestler) this is where i will start. Thanks for a well explained video

  • @renanlinard7
    @renanlinard7 8 років тому +2

    Great video, keep it up the good work! Thanks coach!!

  • @coedozarchuckie9672
    @coedozarchuckie9672 3 роки тому

    I appreciate you Sire

  • @johnengel5701
    @johnengel5701  11 років тому +3

    Actually...I know what you're talking about...I have a sophomore that this happens to. In his case, I'm convinced its his grip. He palms the ball because he has small hands. This also causes him to push the ball because his grip strength isn't sufficient. Shake his hand and see what his grip strength is and then check the grip to make sure he only has the second knuckle and below on the ball. For a fact, grip pressure and wrist snap at release creates rotation...focus on these things

  • @trentford6579
    @trentford6579 10 років тому +3

    Good training video; thanks for a job well done.

  • @ALLDAYAthletics
    @ALLDAYAthletics 8 років тому +3

    Great instruction, love the breakdown.

  • @elie1888
    @elie1888 3 роки тому +1

    Have a good day god love you

  • @beaversjoe
    @beaversjoe 10 років тому

    Coach that was a great tutorial video. By any chance do you have videos of QB mechanics for throwing on the run?

    • @johnengel5701
      @johnengel5701  10 років тому

      I do not...my next video will focus on this...we've got some good stuff I think.

    • @beaversjoe
      @beaversjoe 10 років тому

      1 John Engel Awesome! I have you subscribed and will be looking forward to seeing them. Also, I am a brand new offensive cordinator and QB coach this year, if you have any useful powerpoints or articles, would you mind sending them to me at coachbeavers05@gmail.com. Once again thank you very much.

  • @davebalcomb6110
    @davebalcomb6110 10 років тому +1

    Nice video coach. I teach my guys at Hamilton Ironmen pretty much the same thing, maybe not tucking the elbow so early but we're all a bit different right? Love how you mention bringing the back hip forward. I often tell them "you're like a corkscrew, make sure open to the target, bring that back leg/hip all the way forward." I also tell my QB's to point their front foot at the target, but I see you prefer it some what pointed in. How much do you think this affects accuracy? Looking forward to seeing you at some games this year, maybe even training camp. Say hi to Coach Aloisio for me.

  • @147eruco
    @147eruco 10 років тому +5

    hello coach! great video. but I have a doubt. when you throw the ball many quarterbacks do not come back foot backwards, some turn to the side (chad pennington did this) and others simply do not return the foot forward!
    I am a newbie I do not understand anything! but when Coach launched the ball and we put the back foot forward as their quarterbacks do not lose much strength does not launch?
    Could you tell me a quarterback that throws equally well?
    thanks and keep up the good work :)

    • @johnengel5701
      @johnengel5701  10 років тому +3

      There are always going to be exceptions. Bubba Watson keeps winning the Masters with the "worst swing" in golf. This video is an aid we can use to help the youngsters do what their body is asking of them.

  • @benjones5610
    @benjones5610 10 років тому +1

    Hi coach I have had issues with accuracy as a QB but rm power has never been an issue. I generally overthrow too much on deep balls and I generally make a wrong step when finishing through the throw and also keep throwing the ball way too low on short routes. Any Tips on how to improve total accuracy for somebody who has a low completion rate

  • @zachsalters52
    @zachsalters52 9 років тому

    You're actually supposed to point your left elbow (right handed qbs) at your target. And your qbs are throwing the ball a little side armed, they need to bring the ball up higher. They will get a much better release

  • @dr.z1657
    @dr.z1657 5 років тому +1

    Just break the wrist, and walk away. Bow to your SENSEI!!!

  • @notloccoltonTM
    @notloccoltonTM 10 років тому +2

    Hey coach thanks for the video it's helping a lot! I'm a wide out but I've always wanted to play QB and my teammates and old coaches have also wanted me to because of my leadership skills and skill with the ball but my only big problem right now is arm strength do you know any good workouts I can do to help get my arm stronger?

    • @notloccoltonTM
      @notloccoltonTM 10 років тому

      Thats exactly how it was for me.. but I've been working at it every day and now I'm having problems over throwing slower receivers.... when there like 30 to 50 yard throws

    • @notloccoltonTM
      @notloccoltonTM 10 років тому

      Im a sophmore too! We practice at least 3 days a week..

    • @josemaldonado1805
      @josemaldonado1805 9 років тому

      Age Of Frost the way you get to throw better is the formation of your legs and how you throw the ball it all the power comes from the hips and you have to release the ball or your head that's all you need I went from a wide receiver to a qb and I can throw really far and practice on your highs and lows and bullets and work out your upper body and core so yeah you'll get there

  • @omarhopkins4785
    @omarhopkins4785 6 років тому

    Great info very helpful

  • @Kevin-op7fc
    @Kevin-op7fc 8 років тому

    great video

  • @carlosrenteria7400
    @carlosrenteria7400 8 років тому

    great video!!

  • @lesterchester7019
    @lesterchester7019 10 років тому

    do you guys have a weight room at guelph?

  • @gustavlp
    @gustavlp 8 років тому +1

    Well, *HOW* do I make sure that my index finger is the last finger to leave the ball? I can't find a single explanation on UA-cam covering HOW exactly you achieve those small details in the throwing motion. They just say that "you should do that". The more I feel like I'm doing every single thing right, the worse it goes.
    I truly have a perfect grip, I'm standing sideways with my left shoulder pointing towards my target, I make sure that my right elbow goes higher than my right shoulder as a I take it back, I then pull my left elbow down - tightly to my left hip, and I aim for a high release, trying to have my index finger be the last to leave the ball. But all this just results in an extremely floppy and wobbly flight, sometimes flipping over completely like a dead fish.
    I'm also making sure that I don't grip it too tightly, as I've read that too much grip pressure can be the culprit sometimes. Additionally, I "flip my wrist" as I release the ball, finishing with my palm facing outward and my thumb pointing down beside my left hip. How the **** does this not work? I've even video taped myself throwing, and then compared the footage to professional QB's like Drew Brees and Tom Brady. I cannot see much of a difference at all, except for the ball flying away like a wounded bird.
    Can someone please help me? I've tried for weeks now and it's getting worse, even though I'm doing EVERYTHING the coaches on UA-cam are saying. There just has to be something wrong as the ball leaves my hand, causing the erratic flight. Everything else in my throwing motion is as close to perfect as it possibly can be, I can guarantee that.

    • @BigOldW
      @BigOldW 8 років тому +1

      it may because you are trying to focus on it so much the feeling is right, I believe throwing is 60% mechanical, and 40% mental. This is because you have to be feeling good about the throw and sure that its going to perfect, because if the throw feels unnatural then something is wrong.

    • @BigOldW
      @BigOldW 8 років тому +3

      Also I've learned to think thumb down, it helps generate that spin a lot, if you go thumb down your index finger should spiral the football

    • @rogerdowdell3328
      @rogerdowdell3328 6 років тому

      If you open you hand and quickly rotate it while lagging your hand the snap on the end will force your index finger to be the last finger on the ball

    • @СЛЦ3200
      @СЛЦ3200 6 років тому

      You just have to spin it. Thats the mentality, dont think about the index finger. Just make sure that the fingertips come off the ball last and just think about spinning it with feel

    • @jeffhodge7333
      @jeffhodge7333 5 років тому +3

      You pronate your wrist at release.

  • @aimhigh1961
    @aimhigh1961 9 років тому +28

    Lots of misinformation in this video. Most of what is said is NOT bio-mechanically correct and there is a clear lack of knowledge of how the body naturally syncs up to throw a ball. These kids are being taught to prematurely externally rotate their throwing arm during the hand break which is really bad. Not only is it bio-mechanically incorrect, it will almost certainly cause shoulder injury in the future. Sorry for being so blunt, but human anatomy and bio-mechanics are based on proven science, and this video does not follow either. I do agree with getting sideways to the target, and I agree with the pronation of the forearm after ball release; although my experience has been that pronation is a no teach if the early movements in the throwing motion are taught correctly.

  • @BLAKKMAJIKK14
    @BLAKKMAJIKK14 10 років тому +2

    Jaz has to much motion in his throwing motion. He has a hitch right before his arm comes over the top.

  • @KidMusicc
    @KidMusicc 10 років тому

    im confused on what im doing wronge wondering if you can help me. im a highschool quarterback and dont have that much throwing power. also when i throw deep ball like a fly rout the front end of the ball seems to till upward instead sorta fall

    • @teaching1138
      @teaching1138 10 років тому

      Very common issues. Firstly, don't worry about the power right now. That will come with training and strength. Focus on the fundamentals of the throwing motion to make sure you are maximizing the strength you DO have. For the front tip of the ball on the long throws, I would be willing to bet that this is a hand strength issue. 1. Make sure you are gripping the ball with nothing above he second knuckle on each finger touching the ball. 2. Snap the wrist (counter clockwise for right handed thrower) when you release so that your thumb faces down into your opposite hip. This is called "pronating" the wrist...you want it to be a snap when you release the ball.
      A drill you can do for this is stand 30 yards from the goal post and try to drop the ball over the top of the crossbar as close to the bar as you can.

    • @johnengel5701
      @johnengel5701  10 років тому

      Very common issues. Firstly, don't worry about the power right now. That will come with training and strength. Focus on the fundamentals of the throwing motion to make sure you are maximizing the strength you DO have. For the front tip of the ball on the long throws, I would be willing to bet that this is a hand strength issue. 1. Make sure you are gripping the ball with nothing above he second knuckle on each finger touching the ball. 2. Snap the wrist (counter clockwise for right handed thrower) when you release so that your thumb faces down into your opposite hip. This is called "pronating" the wrist...you want it to be a snap when you release the ball.
      A drill you can do for this is stand 30 yards from the goal post and try to drop the ball over the top of the crossbar as close to the bar as you can.

    • @KidMusicc
      @KidMusicc 10 років тому

      Will do! Thanks

  • @bendiet
    @bendiet 10 років тому +5

    The left elbow tuck is simply wrong...

    • @jonlange8504
      @jonlange8504 10 років тому +1

      Keith - you are kind of right - the elbow needs to tuck, but it needs to be part of the throwing motion to help generate power and leverage with the throwing arm. Take a look at Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, etc....They have great mechanics! The way this guy is teaching it is wrong. Even MLB pitchers are taught to use their front elbow to help generate velocity....

    • @johnengel5701
      @johnengel5701  10 років тому +2

      Jon Lange Fellas...I've been coaching a long time and the fact of the matter is, nobody knows it all. I would never...ever...say someone is right or wrong about anything. Bubba Watson just won the masters (for the second time) in the most technical game in the world with a swing no one would dare teach to anyone else. Make sure when you guys shoot your videos to send them over...hopefully there is something I can steal for my guys...Happy Easter!

    • @bendiet
      @bendiet 10 років тому +3

      First, I like/ use some of the drills you teach. Good stuff, and valuable. And, I agree that no one knows it all. Furthermore, most would also agree with me that Bernie Kosar had the worst throwing mechanics ever, yet had great results, as a passer. But I would NEVER teach his form to anyone! He too dropped his left arm against his side, looking much like what you're teaching. Give me your email address and I'll be glad to send my video to you... I played D1 QB back in the day, and while I had the double whammy of being too short AND too slow to go any further, Gil Brandt (Cowboys) once said I had a great throwing motion... I learned it from former Bills QB Joe Fergeson..... it is the basis for the motion I teach. High lead elbow rising from the rib cage and arcing horizontal to the hips as you rotate towards the target. It builds great velocity, arches the throwing arm into a high over-helmet flow, and helps clear away defenders hand from your throwing lane at the same time. Look at Andrew Luck, Drew Brees, or Warren Moon highlights and you will see the same motion. This is not personal coach... If a boy naturally threw with your motion, I wouldn't say a word... I was watching your drills... But you kept emphasizing the elbow tuck like it was universal form and crucial to the throwing success of the player. I highly disagree with that perspective. Still, you coach professionally and I don't... So there ya go. With All Due Respect- Keith

    • @jonlange8504
      @jonlange8504 10 років тому

      There is actually a purpose and use for the front arm/elbow - it is to help generate velocity. Tucking it away that early in the process is essentially trying to "get it out of the way"...and adds nothing to the throwing motion. This is all I am saying, watch any NFL/NCAA QB that is known for having good mechanics - they don't just hide that elbow - they use it! I apologize if I offended, or came across too negatively.

    • @jonlange8504
      @jonlange8504 10 років тому +1

      BTW - for clarification - I am NOT saying you shouldn't tuck the elbow - I completely agree with that - I just don't agree with "when" you are teaching it to happen. It needs to be done within the confines of the complete throwing motion. Not how the guys are demonstrating it. The way it looks on the video - it makes it look like there is a pause in the throwing motion...it should all flow together - giving the right arm more leverage with the throw.

  • @azianxmyke
    @azianxmyke 10 років тому +1

    Hey coach, you might not see this. But I'm a QB in training, I'm not into the high-school program yet. I'm in my senior years of middle school. I'm lacking on throwing power, and my accuracy is average. I'm horrible at deep passes it pretty good at short and medium. My footwork is pretty good (I'm a scrambler) but I want to throw more often. Any tips or exercises wether I should do?

    • @johnengel5701
      @johnengel5701  10 років тому

      Arm strength will come as you get older...just keep working on your technique until you grow into your body. As a youngster...work on your core strength...rather than work primary muscle groups work on functional power and strength. Plank work does this as do other excercises where you manage your own body weight rather than lift weights...chin ups...push ups...sit ups...etc. For accuracy notging beats the tire in the backyard. We do target practice using moving and stationary targets at multiple points throughout the week. Just make sure you are incorporating your footwork into whatever target practice you do.

    • @trentrw3755
      @trentrw3755 10 років тому

      I'm same man Im in eighth grade almost 14 years old my 40 time without pads is a 4'8 or 4'9 I love to run but I love throwing deep. I start at RB and CB but I play backup QB again I love throwing deep

    • @trentrw3755
      @trentrw3755 10 років тому

      Oh and if you're looking to improve your arm strength I would hit the gym Im going to start going to the YMCA to lift to improve my muscle.

    • @kaidensimpson6626
      @kaidensimpson6626 7 років тому

      SanFranBoi if you see this how did you do? I'm in the same position you were. I'm a wide receiver in eighth grade but the varsity coach wants me to play QB for him.

  • @keenannandor6283
    @keenannandor6283 10 років тому

    hey coach i live in kitchener not too fsr from there btw, anyway im a wide reciver right nowin grsde 9 looking to become a grade 10 QB i am decent with accracy could get better but i need to get better at distance throwing do you have any tips on throwing distance/

    • @johnengel5701
      @johnengel5701  10 років тому

      Just continue to work on core strength and your grip strength. As you get older and your body gets stronger, you will be able to generate all the force you need but your hand strength will need to be strong enough to control the "end of the whip". Just keep your fundamentals right so that when you grow into your body everything will come together.

  • @spencervince200
    @spencervince200 9 років тому

    My coaches tell me that you don't want to tuck your left elbow in because then it also throws off the verticals axis of your shoulders. If your shoulders are making a line point down then the ball will be thrown low. Same way the other way around. Plus it'll make you have a different release and also throw off your rotation. I had the problem of tucking my shoulder because I just thought that's how you threw and I was way more inaccurate. I'm only a freshman QB in South Tahoe, Ca for the Vikings but I immediately stopped watching the video once he said tuck your elbow so I didn't get any bad habits from this.

  • @mcelroynat
    @mcelroynat 10 років тому +1

    ua-cam.com/video/ngel-VlrgAk/v-deo.html
    When I throw the football I spread my non-throwing elbow away from my body and when rotating my torso I bring my elbow down. Because I don't have great arm strength I do this to create more torque and create more velocity on my deeper throws. When watching tape of Drew Brees he does the same thing. I've not had a problem with hand strength even though I have smaller hands for a quarterback. As long as I transfer my weight to my front foot and follow through the throw I've had success throwing the football.

    • @johnengel5701
      @johnengel5701  10 років тому +3

      Well done! Just something to think about....the arm strength is not what creates the torque or velocity. That is generated from your lower body. Arm strength is defined by how well your arm manages and harnesses the torque and velocity that your lower body creates. Tucking the left arm helps with that. On another note, Drew Brees is a dandy...he was amazing the other night vs. the Packers!

  • @alexmora_gm1721
    @alexmora_gm1721 9 років тому

    Good video it was funtionall

  • @losmegacrackhermanos7921
    @losmegacrackhermanos7921 8 років тому

    cool

  • @marrrio8261
    @marrrio8261 9 років тому

    what is jazz's facemask called ??

  • @kiddsuko1375
    @kiddsuko1375 6 років тому

    Umm why is the ball aimed down and his feet are close together

  • @caydenlentini1053
    @caydenlentini1053 10 років тому

    ya

  • @jekayow
    @jekayow 8 років тому

    Joe Montana said that this mechanics are wrong, specially the left arm, check his video

    • @eToroBoT
      @eToroBoT 8 років тому

      +FrostinFire GX really?

  • @MrTalkinsmack
    @MrTalkinsmack 8 років тому +1

    If u just tell them to relax their upper body and throw with their feet you won't have to coach any upper body mechanics

  • @Terminator-mv7dy
    @Terminator-mv7dy 7 років тому

    Hi

  • @jaredwiggins9157
    @jaredwiggins9157 7 років тому

    “Both of them are right handed thank god” ummm thanks bud.... any lefty qbs out there

  • @tnguyen2182
    @tnguyen2182 7 років тому +1

    1:25 4:40 8:50

  • @meshastatam6469
    @meshastatam6469 8 років тому +1

    I noticed one QB is more on the balls of his feet. Does that matter?

    • @sgxwar8704
      @sgxwar8704 8 років тому

      Mesha Statam no cos he isnt running it rn

  • @raman6116
    @raman6116 2 роки тому

    I rather to see Brett Favre teaches than these so called QB throwing guru.

  • @Hepta.Asteras
    @Hepta.Asteras 7 років тому

    I did not know Matt Damon taught throwing mechanics....