Zach Lowe Laid Off By ESPN in Yet Another Confusing ESPN Move | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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  • Опубліковано 14 лис 2024
  • The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Bryan Curtis to discuss the news of Zach Lowe being laid off by ESPN.
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  • @tonyjohn3855
    @tonyjohn3855 Місяць тому +1284

    Zach's problem is that he actually writes stuff that is not just targeted click-bait

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Місяць тому +15

      Problem is he not on show with click baiter to get views

    • @pjx607
      @pjx607 Місяць тому +31

      His articles are soooo good

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 Місяць тому

      ​@@pjx607As is his is Podcast.

    • @Cattle_Snacks
      @Cattle_Snacks Місяць тому +27

      “Problem” for ESPN. Not anything to actually be ashamed about. Lowe is one of the best for the NBA. I hope Bill brings Lowe home to The Ringer.

    • @Atribecalledsuccess
      @Atribecalledsuccess Місяць тому +6

      He might have the most boring podcast of all time

  • @kaceydillin7367
    @kaceydillin7367 Місяць тому +759

    Hate to hear it about Zach, but I am excited because Bill has to hire him for the Ringer!!

    • @KK-pm7ud
      @KK-pm7ud Місяць тому +84

      Zach is big enough to create his own thing if he wants to

    • @KevinSebastian
      @KevinSebastian Місяць тому +43

      I thought Jalen Rose would get hired by the Ringer, so can’t say for certain

    • @AaronMich90
      @AaronMich90 Місяць тому +20

      They can’t afford him

    • @blessembreaks
      @blessembreaks Місяць тому +10

      dont get your hopes up. Bill still hasnt hired Todd Mcshay yet

    • @isaacnewton3514
      @isaacnewton3514 Місяць тому +15

      @@KevinSebastianJalen is a good on air personality. The Ringer hire writers and podcasters and that’s what Zach is

  • @realtalkfbs
    @realtalkfbs Місяць тому +693

    The dumbing down of basketball continues. All hot take bullshit now.

    • @vlada
      @vlada Місяць тому +26

      Legler is still there. For now.

    • @razkable
      @razkable Місяць тому +5

      Zach doesn't have many real points he just kinda talks in a cirlce but he at least tries to present facts based on data and engage actual nba idea topics even if he has no real subtance point at the end instead of just hot takes so...

    • @Andre-q5e4m
      @Andre-q5e4m Місяць тому +2

      Zach Lowe breaks down basketball???? Since when

    • @abcsorensen
      @abcsorensen Місяць тому

      @@realtalkfbs More like the looting of American corporations by private equity continues.

    • @lilpenny1982
      @lilpenny1982 Місяць тому +4

      Zach Lowe ✅️ Monica McNutt ❌️

  • @JP-jd8wr
    @JP-jd8wr Місяць тому +232

    The crazy thing is Zach Lowe JUST got the 1st JJ Redick interview as the Lakers head coach and NOW the fire him. Talk about trash leadership at ESPN...

    • @michaelturley8222
      @michaelturley8222 Місяць тому +8

      There goal seems to be to appeal to people that think good NBA analysis is saying Kobe's better than LeBron cuz rangz

    • @ikechukwuobidike9440
      @ikechukwuobidike9440 Місяць тому

      @@michaelturley8222😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @calebsmith254
      @calebsmith254 Місяць тому +1

      Not really, the basketball fanbase in itself is trash. ESPN just adjusts to the community.

    • @Ahilliard44
      @Ahilliard44 Місяць тому

      Ye because they take there stats from social media platforms where the loudest people are often confused as the majority! I for one don’t watch espn unless specific anchors are on. Now that Zach is gone that’s just another reason not to watch. ESPN has been pretty terrible for quite some time when it comes to basketball coverage and it’s the main reason that these podcasts from ex and current players have picked up so much traction

    • @SergioMRebolledo
      @SergioMRebolledo Місяць тому

      That's why he was fired. They didn't like him going on JJ's podcast and then he had JJ before Espn could on his podcast....

  • @wmd8625
    @wmd8625 Місяць тому +315

    Bill, please, hire this man immediately!

    • @Thenobleone81
      @Thenobleone81 Місяць тому +2

      He will🎉🎉🎉

    • @michaelturley8222
      @michaelturley8222 Місяць тому +3

      @@Thenobleone81 I think so too. Bill loves Zach and knows he's probably the best analyst in the NBA media world, especially now that JJ is gone. ESPN is just sports for people that casually watch sports, or do nothing but watch sports and have a double digit IQ.

    • @scottsimpson8973
      @scottsimpson8973 Місяць тому

      24:18

    • @D.A.P_100
      @D.A.P_100 Місяць тому

      Zach Lowe made millions of dollars at ESPN...he'll have better career options than getting hired by a podcast. Brsides, he's a frequent guest of Bill's already, and I'm sure he does it for free.

    • @michaelturley8222
      @michaelturley8222 Місяць тому

      @@D.A.P_100 you’re way off. 1
      Russillo was arguably a bigger name than Lowe because he was SVP’s cohost, and he covered all sports, and he was on ESPN radio and TV more regularly than Lowe and they were able to pay him. 2. They sold for $200 million so they clearly are making big money and can afford big salaries. 3. Lowe was definitely not making millions, if you listen to his podcast regularly he’s definitely hinted over the years he is nowhere close to rich.

  • @exhibitioncontinues
    @exhibitioncontinues Місяць тому +450

    ESPN is continually dumbing down all it's commentary.... But none moreso than their NBA talk.... Watch a football show and they're talking cover 2 and route trees.... A basketball show is talking about tweets, fashion and who is next to go in free agency.... Zach was the best because he was talking ball.... The Screaming A Smiths have won🙄🙄🙄🙄

    • @Hibbs4Prez
      @Hibbs4Prez Місяць тому +14

      Been making the same comparisons for awhile.

    • @holstorrsceadus1990
      @holstorrsceadus1990 Місяць тому +40

      Skip and SAS ruined ESPN for me.

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Місяць тому +7

      Legler took his spot

    • @j.s3300
      @j.s3300 Місяць тому +7

      Their NFL stuff is crap too…just less crap

    • @Atribecalledsuccess
      @Atribecalledsuccess Місяць тому

      They’re number #1 in the country

  • @yoki_isthename9456
    @yoki_isthename9456 Місяць тому +189

    The fact that ESPN is laying off Zach Lowe but keeping Kendrick Perkins is all you need to know.
    They're not about too content, they're targetting the "shock value" audience.

    • @JJ_5289
      @JJ_5289 Місяць тому +2

      Thats what espn is now. Theyre trying to cut back but they dont keep the people who are way more qualified. Perkins obviously played but has so little experience doing tv/journalism. At least zach lowe has enough of a following now that he will probably do fine on his own. Simmons getting fired by espn did not hurt him much.

    • @luxuryseaviewvillas6744
      @luxuryseaviewvillas6744 Місяць тому +7

      and DEI. They're about DEI.

    • @JustMeELC
      @JustMeELC Місяць тому

      Their targeting the low iq audience who just want bs, arguments, & nonsense sigh

    • @danielschomburg2140
      @danielschomburg2140 Місяць тому +3

      @@JJ_5289 literally cannot listen to Perkins. Guy is a complete clown and has said some pretty despicable things that should have had him fired in the past.

    • @dimitrijetucovic1307
      @dimitrijetucovic1307 Місяць тому

      ​@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744 Disney company after all

  • @TannerLikesStuff
    @TannerLikesStuff Місяць тому +98

    I’m in my 20s and the ESPN direction is just not for me. I’d much rather listen to or read Lowe than see the hot take machine. Truly a misfire by ESPN letting a talent like him go.

    • @Dustomatic
      @Dustomatic Місяць тому

      Shocking that a guy named tanner doesn’t like any flavor in his sports lol

    • @TannerLikesStuff
      @TannerLikesStuff Місяць тому +3

      @@Dustomatic not sure what you mean by this lol. I just don’t love watching content made explicitly to be broken into 30 second viral clips instead of getting into the meat of a topic. solely a format/preference thing

  • @Raaandy
    @Raaandy Місяць тому +183

    "Kendrick, say really dumb stuff really loudly and we'll pay you."
    Kendrick: "EZ"

    • @Larry_Sycamore
      @Larry_Sycamore Місяць тому +15

      Kendrick Perkins can barely formulate sentences.

    • @shahherwan93
      @shahherwan93 Місяць тому +4

      I think many casuals overlooked this. He is mentioned in half the comment section in every video. It's insane.

    • @LukaLegend77
      @LukaLegend77 Місяць тому

      what is espn thinking? are they trying to crumble faster firing all the good employees?

    • @jakeMontejo3272
      @jakeMontejo3272 Місяць тому

      He’s trash. My dog’s tail is smarter than Perkins. You loose brain cells Listening to him talk

    • @MateMagyar88
      @MateMagyar88 Місяць тому +2

      Perk is barely in studio and does the show in the bathroom of his house! 🤦‍♂️😂

  • @michaelcore9715
    @michaelcore9715 Місяць тому +108

    Please bring the Lowe podcast to the ringer he was of the few remaining real analysts and actually knew hoops on espn

  • @WindyCityJay
    @WindyCityJay Місяць тому +226

    “Kendrick Perkins over me!!”

  • @ryanearley8748
    @ryanearley8748 Місяць тому +140

    Zach doesn’t talk betting and ESPN is deeply integrated with the gambling industry now.

    • @X379
      @X379 Місяць тому +10

      Preach

    • @NoName-l2o2c
      @NoName-l2o2c Місяць тому +13

      Agree. He has said it on his podcast once and then began talking gambling garbage. Same w hoop collective.

    • @joshwhalen17
      @joshwhalen17 Місяць тому +1

      Again for the folks in the back.

    • @Fedrick-o2p
      @Fedrick-o2p Місяць тому +3

      Boom truth. Zach isn't a betting shill

    • @Fedrick-o2p
      @Fedrick-o2p Місяць тому +6

      Most people in this inflation can't even afford to do this betting nonsense that ruins people's lives. Respect to Zach for not pretending to be about it. The hoop collective is mostly betting free thank you.

  • @paddyspub7225
    @paddyspub7225 Місяць тому +109

    wtf, zach lowe is their best journalist hands down

    • @KK-pm7ud
      @KK-pm7ud Місяць тому

      ESPN doesn't want journalists. They want robots like Malika Andrews.

    • @Joeschmoe8930
      @Joeschmoe8930 Місяць тому +16

      Espn doesn’t care about journalism.

    • @agentallstar7
      @agentallstar7 Місяць тому +1

      @@Joeschmoe8930exactly, Espn is awful

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Місяць тому +1

      Legler took his spot, like shams took woj

    • @tahderich
      @tahderich Місяць тому +2

      And they clearly enjoy SAS, SHanno,Malika, Chiney and Perk making a circus then the real guys trying to teach what to look fot in basketball games.

  • @skillz0122
    @skillz0122 Місяць тому +126

    Epsn is owned by Disney and right now they are great at giving us stuff we don't want.

    • @dandyman7819
      @dandyman7819 Місяць тому +4

      Not to mention having a hiring bias SPECIFICALLY against white men.
      Last I checked, Zach Lowe looks a bit too pale for Disney...

    • @SalKhayer
      @SalKhayer Місяць тому

      Disney writers hated the fact that a white male was being heralded by the masses, and now they want to replace him with a DEI-checklist approved individual that can appeal to a demographic that doesn't care. I wish they understood the demographic for basketball talk is "basketball fans", not some obscure racial or gender-denominated demographic.

    • @jeremymuir4332
      @jeremymuir4332 Місяць тому +4

      It's Disney's reason for being right now.

    • @iam_nell
      @iam_nell Місяць тому

      @@dandyman7819the same white men who are the big bosses and make the big money.

    • @trendel13
      @trendel13 Місяць тому +10

      Disney's strategy has to be based around rage bate. They are so bad that it has to be deliberate.

  • @Molson-xg9hs
    @Molson-xg9hs Місяць тому +26

    ESPN is giving up on intelligent sports coverage…if Bill doesn’t hire Zach, at least give him one of those weekly pod spots. ESPN doesn’t care about quality

  • @burekevan
    @burekevan Місяць тому +37

    i honestly can't believe PTI even lasted this long - every time i see them i cherish it because i know they're not long for EPSN anymore

    • @ZJ-ne9kn
      @ZJ-ne9kn Місяць тому +1

      Pti and around the horn i have watched forever, i stand by Espn more than most, but it hit hard when they said that the horn is done. Next year its too bad all the talent they lost last couple years..

    • @mrslabbulkhead
      @mrslabbulkhead Місяць тому

      I honestly believe the second Tony or Michael retire, ESPN is not gonna replace them with someone else on the show, they are instead going to cancel the show immediately. After doing that, they are either move who doesn't retire onto a different show, or they are going to tell them "You are also retiring from ESPN, whether you like it or not". I hate it, man.

  • @alexsamain812
    @alexsamain812 Місяць тому +75

    espn fired zach to talk more about bronny

    • @DaMeaun
      @DaMeaun Місяць тому +1

      he was laid off not fired

    • @alexsamain812
      @alexsamain812 Місяць тому +5

      @@DaMeaun same thing, no?

    • @DrPhill96
      @DrPhill96 Місяць тому

      @@alexsamain812- No.

  • @senorchivo90
    @senorchivo90 Місяць тому +37

    ESPN tried to shoehorn Stephen A Smith and hot takes into live MMA coverage and neither MMA fans nor fighters were having it. He basically disappeared immediately. There's a model for technical, knowledgeable coverage of sports along with sports entertainment. This is not it.

    • @TS-ce5st
      @TS-ce5st Місяць тому +6

      I completely forgot about that. He was shamed into never doing MMA content again.

    • @43bobbyg
      @43bobbyg Місяць тому +1

      I can’t stand listening to Stephan A S spouting offf

    • @TarikM
      @TarikM Місяць тому

      He was right about McGregor and Cowboy Cerrone tho unlike Dr UFC Rogan

    • @Toni-to8je
      @Toni-to8je Місяць тому

      😂
      majority of the basketball audience loves the sas and Perk's loud manner.
      It's not hard to understand why...

    • @chasingfelix3609
      @chasingfelix3609 29 днів тому

      @@Toni-to8jewhy?

  • @TheRealUcanUwill
    @TheRealUcanUwill Місяць тому +58

    ESPN is just clown show for caricature idiot characters, like SAS. Lowe being part of their portfolio never made any sense to begin with. Zach will be fine, I am excited to know he will land on something more watchable (anything is more watchable than ESPN USA)

    • @oneshot2g
      @oneshot2g Місяць тому +1

      Both make sense. One balances the others.

    • @cranekraken24
      @cranekraken24 Місяць тому +2

      Amen brotha!

  • @johnnydeboio3340
    @johnnydeboio3340 Місяць тому +87

    Zach is a legend, can't wait to see him working for the ringer in the future!

    • @ricosolomon
      @ricosolomon Місяць тому +3

      he was okay.... not outstanding. Will be missed and quickly replaced.
      "a Legend ?" nowhere near that level

    • @sardonicus76
      @sardonicus76 Місяць тому

      @@ricosolomon Replaced by who? Another Kendrick Perkins or Monica McNutt clone? Doesn’t BSPN already have enough angry former athletes to push the narrative?

    • @KIDKorRupt24
      @KIDKorRupt24 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@ricosolomonif you are interested in basketball without all the bells and whistles. Just pure basketball talk. Zach is a legend. But as your comment shows. Most people aren't into that. They want two dudes yelling about how some player need to get it done. 😂

    • @ChristianSchröder-g4p
      @ChristianSchröder-g4p Місяць тому

      ​@@ricosolomonzach lowe has been my source of NBA deep dives for about 15 years now. Just thoughtful articles and knowledge with the right amount of Humor by one of the Most Genuine down to earth, can laugh about my self dudes you can find.

    • @w00deey12
      @w00deey12 Місяць тому +1

      @@KIDKorRupt24a white guy who never played …. Nvm

  • @sashaman14
    @sashaman14 Місяць тому +33

    One thing to note: Bill mentions that he is curious why ESPN is outsourcing everything. My guess is that they're trying to keep "fixed costs" (economics term) low. Companies that are about to be bought/sold typically do that. My $0.02, Disney is molding ESPN into a sellable product

    • @LukaLegend77
      @LukaLegend77 Місяць тому +2

      that at least makes some sense because if not i dont understand their actions last 10yrs

    • @roycedot
      @roycedot Місяць тому +3

      He didnt mention "he is curious why ESPN is outsourcing everything". He said they are outsourcing a lot of stuff. They pay Pat McAfee $17m / year, SAS $12m

    • @sashaman14
      @sashaman14 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@roycedot he literally asks "why aren't you producing your own shows"

  • @OptimisticBullsFan
    @OptimisticBullsFan Місяць тому +17

    As you guys were discussing this, I think you touched on the new direction. They have more games and they are in the gambling space now. They are willingly cutting writing and analysis talent because their focus is on driving bets and eyes on their games.

  • @Adrenaline4P
    @Adrenaline4P Місяць тому +27

    He is right though, Bill got suspended for way less stuff than people are getting away with today lol

  • @juwaneverett3456
    @juwaneverett3456 Місяць тому +48

    Bill just hire Zach and make the ringer the biggest media monster in basketball

    • @BabylonGateLA
      @BabylonGateLA Місяць тому +3

      Biggest media monster 😂😂😂😂😂 The Ringer $ucks lil bud. They couldn’t afford KOC, you think they can afford Zach?! 😂😂😂

    • @k_hack9441
      @k_hack9441 Місяць тому +3

      @@BabylonGateLAKOC wasn’t anything special

    • @BabylonGateLA
      @BabylonGateLA Місяць тому

      @@k_hack9441 And they couldn’t keep him 🤣🤣 The Ringer is for hipsters who thinks they are the smartest person in the room 🤣🤣

    • @caylinjohnson6453
      @caylinjohnson6453 Місяць тому

      @@k_hack9441but he was a Tarheel and Bills sidekick and protégé if they couldn’t keep him no way could they afford Lowe

  • @bobbybeez858
    @bobbybeez858 Місяць тому +32

    ESPN is basically for only watching games now. I consumed very little ESPN content after they got rid of all the people I liked.

    • @Deerjason
      @Deerjason Місяць тому +2

      Luckily a lot of people are moving to independent content creation on UA-cam where they have full control

    • @bobbybeez858
      @bobbybeez858 Місяць тому +1

      @@Deerjason Zach’s platform will be very large for sure

  • @jr.3308
    @jr.3308 Місяць тому +37

    Give Zach Lowe one dollar more than Russillo and call it a day. But fr tho, imagine Lowe joining the Bill and Russillo Sunday pods. 95-96 Bulls vibes.

    • @aron4117
      @aron4117 Місяць тому

      Nah Rusty Buckets crew would sweep these honkeys

    • @Schafferyan
      @Schafferyan Місяць тому

      Cringe

    • @jr.3308
      @jr.3308 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@Schafferyanok ryan schaffer

    • @Schafferyan
      @Schafferyan Місяць тому

      @@jr.3308 no seriously say what you said out loud and try not to cringe

  • @anon-ju9bg
    @anon-ju9bg Місяць тому +29

    Bryan Curtis looks like he stole Woj and Lowe from ESPN and morphed into a composite of them

  • @andysmith1669
    @andysmith1669 Місяць тому +71

    Keeping Stephen A over Zach is like selecting me over Lebron for a run at the YMCA.

    • @JP-jd8wr
      @JP-jd8wr Місяць тому +14

      No it's not. It's not even a good comparison. There was room for both since they do different things.

    • @BabylonGateLA
      @BabylonGateLA Місяць тому +4

      Stephen brings in the numbers and views tho. Maybe you can compare it to keeping Richard Jefferson or Kendrick Perkins lil man 😂😂

    • @user-kt4cg2fn7l
      @user-kt4cg2fn7l Місяць тому +1

      I believe in you!

    • @BabylonGateLA
      @BabylonGateLA Місяць тому

      @@user-kt4cg2fn7l I mean he even got cheerleaders 🤣🤣🤣

    • @LukaLegend77
      @LukaLegend77 Місяць тому +3

      van gundy n mark jackson was a bigger loss imo

  • @NoellaScott
    @NoellaScott Місяць тому +12

    I'm in my 30s and I'm nostalgic for the previous eras. Pretty sure people in their 20s do, too.

  • @capbruhcorn
    @capbruhcorn Місяць тому +19

    ESPN used to be neutral and unbiased. Now it’s full of yes men and hype men. All sauce and very little substance.

  • @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC
    @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC Місяць тому +11

    ESPN sure did wait until that exclusive JJ Reddick interview hit before they fired him. Cold work.

  • @71SanClare
    @71SanClare Місяць тому +37

    ESPN now fully subordinate to Klutch Sports. What a joke.

  • @andyh4518
    @andyh4518 Місяць тому +10

    Back in the olden days I remember when Stephen A. and JA Adande were the two big NBA guys at ESPN. ESPN obviously went all in on Stephen A., so it's pretty clear they went for clickbait and hot takes a long time ago.

  • @zenlee1109
    @zenlee1109 Місяць тому +2

    You nailed it. The soul is gone. That's a big machine , using basketball and the masses.
    Thank God for real journalism, real discussion of substance, integrity and humanity

  • @TejanoMano
    @TejanoMano Місяць тому +10

    You may not “just turn on ESPN” any more in the day, but at work it’s just as good if not better to “just throw on” a 2 hour Lowe Post episode.

  • @deadprecedents1
    @deadprecedents1 Місяць тому +6

    ESPN is basically MTV now. All MTV is now nothing but episodes of “Ridiculousness” . All ESPN is, is Pat MacAfee and Screaming Ass Smith. That’s it.

  • @NKNOE
    @NKNOE Місяць тому +10

    Zach is a serious journalist not a hot take guy. That means no place for him at ESPN! But I'm sure the Podfather will make him an offer he can't refuse!

  • @tonyperkis420
    @tonyperkis420 Місяць тому +18

    Espn is going down the shitter. Have been for awhile.

    • @Chalk89
      @Chalk89 Місяць тому +1

      In terms of quality, yes, but they'll get their views because in reality, what else is there?

  • @hustlecrowe9440
    @hustlecrowe9440 Місяць тому +26

    Not surprised, over the last 20 years ESPN has gone from actual journalism to yelling idiots like Colin Cowherd, Skip Bayless, Steven A, McAfee, etc. Their next transition is to just be a gambling site.

    • @casparbenjaminseymour
      @casparbenjaminseymour Місяць тому +2

      I agree but Cowherd aint so bad

    • @VRKyurem
      @VRKyurem Місяць тому +4

      Cowherd hasn’t worked for espn for 10 years

    • @Obiamajoyisrmd
      @Obiamajoyisrmd Місяць тому +1

      Sounds like you’re not really paying attention. Colin hasn’t worked for espn for a while. And he’s not a yeller

    • @jonosay854
      @jonosay854 Місяць тому

      💯🎯

  • @PennhouseWord
    @PennhouseWord Місяць тому +10

    Laying Zach off is actually crazy. ESPN quality taking another hit

  • @johnbrowntheprophet
    @johnbrowntheprophet Місяць тому +5

    ESPN is too focused on trying to capitalize on every trend rather than having a core business with a clear business model. 🤷🏻‍♂️🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @ExtremeDailyDrivers
    @ExtremeDailyDrivers Місяць тому +70

    If you don't pick the Lakers to win the NBA Finals every year, then you're fired.

    • @BabylonGateLA
      @BabylonGateLA Місяць тому +2

      LETS GO LAKERS 💛💜

    • @pleasedonttemptme5963
      @pleasedonttemptme5963 Місяць тому +2

      Stop reaching, haters are pressed my God

    • @siba2379
      @siba2379 Місяць тому +3

      Tim Bontemps is still employed. You haters are annoying, always contradicting yourselves, Never wanna hear about the Lakers but you always bring them up.

    • @BabylonGateLA
      @BabylonGateLA Місяць тому +4

      @@siba2379 They have the Lakers in their throat 24/7 but always complaining with the Lakers get so much attention 🤣🤣🤣

    • @pleasedonttemptme5963
      @pleasedonttemptme5963 Місяць тому +2

      @@siba2379 Haters so pressed bro. Just annoying LeHater trolls

  • @NBA_Breakdown
    @NBA_Breakdown Місяць тому +8

    ESPN has become buzz feed for sports. Few real writers and journalists

  • @mauriciokrebs2913
    @mauriciokrebs2913 Місяць тому +10

    everything in ESPN coverage is so hyperbolic. Every week is armageddom, for good or bad. I miss good, balanced and fearless coverage.

  • @MikeBeltMikeBelt
    @MikeBeltMikeBelt Місяць тому +6

    ESPN has been awful for a long time now. The best thing that I did was unsub from their YT and not recommend any of their channels that pop up in my feed. Once they went all-in on this absurd troll hard take/Skip method, I bailed and did not look back.

  • @StoriesbyDAF
    @StoriesbyDAF Місяць тому +5

    Stephen A's impending contract is killing ESPN talent.

  • @vladtheimpaler7375
    @vladtheimpaler7375 Місяць тому +8

    The fact that Dan Orlovsky is spewing absolute garbage hot takes and getting headline posts on ESPNs UA-cam page but they don’t have time for Zach Lowe says a lot about where that network is.

  • @NoellaScott
    @NoellaScott Місяць тому +10

    I could never have imagined ESPN getting this far into tabloid BS after what we all loved in the 90s and 00s. Insaneeeee.

    • @ericpirillo7363
      @ericpirillo7363 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah we were conditioned a certain way by the same company we now bash because they dumbed down. Growing up we had to catch up they didn’t dumb everything down to cater to us.

    • @NoellaScott
      @NoellaScott Місяць тому +1

      @@ericpirillo7363 Being challenged is a good thing

    • @ericpirillo7363
      @ericpirillo7363 Місяць тому +1

      Yes Sir and it made us more knowledgeable about the game and the history of it.

  • @drewbreezy5854
    @drewbreezy5854 Місяць тому +28

    Really? I thought Zach was doing decent. I will say this, I cannot think of a worse broadcast than that Stephen A, Wilboun, Bob Meyers. That shit is awful.

    • @pleasedonttemptme5963
      @pleasedonttemptme5963 Місяць тому

      Bob Myers is an incredible basketball mind, don’t know what you’re talking about there he’s great.
      The rest, sure

    • @roycedot
      @roycedot Місяць тому +3

      Stephen A provides absolutely 0 insight into anything

    • @schuylerkrizay6192
      @schuylerkrizay6192 Місяць тому +3

      @@pleasedonttemptme5963 oh man bob myers has been fuking awful whatre you saying!?! im a warriors fan too

    • @pleasedonttemptme5963
      @pleasedonttemptme5963 Місяць тому

      @@schuylerkrizay6192 Hah you’re a Warriors fan (Terrible). But, no. He is very insightful and displays a clear understanding of the NBA, I’ve watched him speak many times.
      I don’t think ESPN is going to keep him either, he’s much too good for them & should be a GM right now

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd Місяць тому +4

      Bob Myers has been the worst addition in some time

  • @lacyvalenti9523
    @lacyvalenti9523 Місяць тому +8

    The NBA Finals were awful this last year without the main broadcast team. And this is just more of the same: getting rid of iconic media personalities. And it's ridiculous.

    • @paulpsycho78
      @paulpsycho78 Місяць тому

      Doris Burke is unlistenable

    • @redman6790
      @redman6790 Місяць тому

      Could barely listen without the iconic JVG and MJ duo colour commentary

  • @iTuber012
    @iTuber012 Місяць тому +5

    Honestly there needs to be a balance between stat lords and eye test lords in nba coverage. Right now it's all hot takes

  • @JoeD-gy7cx
    @JoeD-gy7cx Місяць тому

    Welcome to the Lowe Post !!!! Damn, loved his podcast. Lot of substance. Gonna miss it 😢

  • @vintagemonte
    @vintagemonte Місяць тому +9

    Bruh wtf…. ESPN needs to get their shit together

  • @MrOctober44
    @MrOctober44 Місяць тому +70

    Gotta keep Perkins and his moronic hot takes.

    • @KK-pm7ud
      @KK-pm7ud Місяць тому +5

      He pays ESPN to work there.

    • @drewbreezy5854
      @drewbreezy5854 Місяць тому +8

      Him and RJ are just, let's bounce back and forth and see who can say the dumbest shit possible.

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 Місяць тому +6

      Time for them to hire Gilbert Arenas.

    • @sardonicus76
      @sardonicus76 Місяць тому

      Don’t forget Monica McNutt and her constant whining about, “Muh equity! Muh entitlements! Muh Caitlin Clark is bad for the W!”.
      If that’s the future of ESPN, they might want to start lowering the lifeboats, now.

    • @edkiely2712
      @edkiely2712 Місяць тому

      Not to mention the dimwit Ryan Clark who couldn't spell NFL if I spotted him the "N" and the "F."

  • @MinisterManDan
    @MinisterManDan Місяць тому +8

    They want big time stars who have built big followings on UA-cam augmented by cheap ex players who will say humiliating stupid stuff. They don’t want good content

  • @tahderich
    @tahderich Місяць тому +6

    This makes Woj's departure a LOT less confusing. Woj beat the to the cut and anyone making 7 figures is targeted.

  • @kidcudi908
    @kidcudi908 Місяць тому +4

    I stopped watching espn for a couple years now, best decision I’ve ever made

  • @AGHathaway
    @AGHathaway Місяць тому +7

    There is a HUGE opportunity for a new national sports syndicate. Someone is about to make a lot of money over the next 10-20 years. The door is open.

    • @misinfluence
      @misinfluence Місяць тому

      The average consumer wants hot takes
      The minority of people who want unbiased knowledgeable sports information is too small to get a lot of money from them, which sucks

  • @robertvillarreal3038
    @robertvillarreal3038 Місяць тому +7

    Seriously, who the hell watches Greenie. Mad Dog, Stephen A. or any of the other ESPN swill in the morning? I don't even watch the NBA pregame on ESPN. With TNT, you keep watching after the game is over. With ESPN, as soon as the game ends, the channel changes.
    '

    • @VeePn-v1w
      @VeePn-v1w Місяць тому

      Dont mind Greenie, but the others my god do they need to disappear. Along with all their none male counterparts. Nobody wants to hear these ladies talk ball!

  • @emperor_23897
    @emperor_23897 21 день тому +1

    ESPN wants to capitalize on the whole "Personalities and entertainment" gimmick that Inside the NBA will leave behind once that show ends.

  • @futurefox635
    @futurefox635 Місяць тому +4

    They are mad at Zach for correctly voting for Tatum for Finals MVP

  • @BloodSasuke101
    @BloodSasuke101 Місяць тому +5

    Ringer would be great but I'd also l😮ove to see Zach Lowe lead the Old Man and the Three

  • @ManualsRBetter
    @ManualsRBetter Місяць тому +26

    The people they have hired all across ESPN are horrible. Younger, cheaper, less qualified people have been hired. Capitalism at its finest.

    • @spol
      @spol Місяць тому +2

      I’m surprised so many people care about espn content. There are so many other places for sports content. Get an athletic sub or just listen to podcasts. Capitalism at its finest is choice.

    • @BabylonGateLA
      @BabylonGateLA Місяць тому

      @@spolThose sites don’t got Stephen A Smith and Shannon Sharpe tho 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

    • @cranekraken24
      @cranekraken24 Місяць тому

      That's not even close to what capitalism is? If that were the case the market would react and ESPN would be crushing it on every level. They are not and have in fact been in decline for years. That's why Disney had a chance to purchase ESPN. The decline will continue.
      I'm guessing you're a clueless college kid.

    • @JJ_5289
      @JJ_5289 Місяць тому

      Well they did that but then they also went all in with someone like pat mcafee. They are all over the place

  • @dotunokewole4627
    @dotunokewole4627 Місяць тому +2

    Every year I patiently wait for the 5on5 article on EPSN when the playoff arrive. I started to notice they were no more 5on5 articles anymore broke my Heart to pieces.. no more creative stories anymore

  • @abcsorensen
    @abcsorensen Місяць тому +12

    American corporate culture is the same now as it was with the Robber Barons. They feel soulless because Disney Entertainment's largest shareholders are Vanguard, State Street, and BlackRock. Private equity ruins everything because it legally requires corporations to focus solely on profits.

    • @shahherwan93
      @shahherwan93 Місяць тому +1

      That seems like a stretch. They don't have any say in how it's run. Firing Zach Lowe doesn't change the course.

    • @abcsorensen
      @abcsorensen Місяць тому

      @shahherwan93 Tell me again how you don't understand corporate board structure. Then search "Vanguard, State Street and BlackRock are the largest investors at Disney, making them key votes to court as Wednesday's shareholder meeting nears." You should find information about their April 2024 meeting.

    • @abcsorensen
      @abcsorensen Місяць тому

      @ReedMiller-z6n When lazy investment bankers get involved, they do the only thing they know how to do: cut labor costs, buy back stock, and raid the retirement fund. You can't pay the suits multimillion dollar bonus without looting the treasure chest.

  • @michaelschmidt6548
    @michaelschmidt6548 Місяць тому +29

    Nobody will say it but ESPN and NBA are embracing ghetto/childish clickbait. That is all it is.

    • @VRKyurem
      @VRKyurem Місяць тому +5

      Not sure why you chose the word ghetto

    • @Theinsideoutsider
      @Theinsideoutsider Місяць тому +3

      Ghetto? Please explain and the folks that liked that comment feel free to chime in too

    • @Bobbleheads56
      @Bobbleheads56 Місяць тому +6

      Exactly lol no use for a sportswriter when your target audience can’t read

    • @paulpsycho78
      @paulpsycho78 Місяць тому

      ​@VRKyurem they are racist.

    • @Bobbleheads56
      @Bobbleheads56 Місяць тому

      @@paulpsycho78 dont call me racist saltine

  • @thecalmbro
    @thecalmbro Місяць тому +3

    The answer as to why is very simple.
    ESPN is about sensationalism and appealing to casual sports fans. It's about making clips, "viral moments", loud people saying ridiculous things.
    Zach Lowe is a measured, seasoned, intelligent, rational TRUE sports fan who loves the game and talks from the mind and the heart. In other words, he's too mature for ESPN.
    TL;DR: He's van gogh, ESPN is a network that demands finger paintings.

  • @jaylifted
    @jaylifted Місяць тому

    Somebody had to talk about it, thank you guys for keeping it real!

  • @willingexile3374
    @willingexile3374 Місяць тому +17

    I have a feeling Woj saw the writing on the wall and quit before he got sacked. Zach did not fit whatever vision ESPN has and it's also likely he doesn't have any patron behind the scenes. I hope he lands squarely on his feet and hit the ground running. He could set up his own company, he has enough credibility to do so. It would be nice if he moved to the Ringer, but I doubt it.

    • @HKim0072
      @HKim0072 Місяць тому +2

      NBC or Amazon will hire him. NBC can utilize him like Mike Florio. or Amazon can use him for TV spots and podcasts.

    • @coopercourtney6459
      @coopercourtney6459 Місяць тому +2

      Woj was a reporter and not a sportswriter, the difference being the connections with front offices and ability to keep your ears open for breaking news. Zach never broke any stories as far as I know

    • @HKim0072
      @HKim0072 Місяць тому

      @@coopercourtney6459 Zach broke a lot of stories. He shared bylines with Woj a lot.
      it just wasn't his focus.

    • @untexan
      @untexan Місяць тому +1

      Comparing Zach Lowe to Florio is like comparing Wagyu beef to dog food

  • @theveteran8546
    @theveteran8546 Місяць тому +1

    I listen to the Lowe Post weekly, great insight, great interaction with guests and entertaining. ESPN dropped the ball.

  • @joeb588
    @joeb588 Місяць тому +10

    Referring to Stephen A as the “high-end talent” is painful. I get that he must get the best ratings for them, but he’s also the guy that makes people like me immediately turn off the channel.

    • @brutalplanet7BoonesOverstock
      @brutalplanet7BoonesOverstock Місяць тому

      I don't hate SAS, but I also have almost no interest in him once Max Kellerman was cooked off 1st Take. There's so much truth in what you said. The dude above this comment referred to him as Screamin' A Smith. That's about right.

  • @0rionknight636
    @0rionknight636 Місяць тому +8

    Never fun getting laid off... but Grantland 2.0? Jalen and Jacoby vs bill and zach Dont get Fired all stars???

  • @17NateJohnson
    @17NateJohnson Місяць тому +8

    ESPN is no longer serious about sports.
    Once, they curated a love and delight for all kinds of sports. Now, all that exists is football, basketball and social justice - w a huge focus on a few teams and personalities. It lacks vision. By cultivating a love of sports, they give themselves a long term platform.

    • @T92ification
      @T92ification Місяць тому +1

      Spot on. I don’t care for hockey personally, but it’s never mentioned like it was before. Baseball is only talked about during the playoffs. Golf, tennis, everything is gone.

    • @17NateJohnson
      @17NateJohnson Місяць тому +2

      @@T92ification I learned to appreciate different sports and athletes through ESPN. Now, it’s nonstop Laker drama in the spring and QB tiers in the fall.

    • @cranekraken24
      @cranekraken24 Місяць тому

      Very well said.

  • @evanclp514
    @evanclp514 Місяць тому +1

    this video describes exactly my experience with ESPN. i used to just leave ESPN on all day and i would actively watch certain shows - Mike & Mike, PTI, First Take (a long time ago), and a few others. but over the past few years i've stopped watching cable and instead of finding ESPN content online, i've found other shows on UA-cam like First Things First, Bill's Podcast, Undisputed before it disbanded, and NBA on TNT. and like they mentioned specifically with NBA games, i don't enjoy watching the commentary of live NBA on ESPN and wanted to hear Chuck and Shaq instead. the only ESPN content i watch at all is ESPN FC and that's because of how little soccer coverage there is in the US.

  • @Steelcityboy21
    @Steelcityboy21 Місяць тому +13

    ESPN is trying to pull the super team with no depth model with Shannon, Stephen a, and McAfee and whoever else. There's still some good reporters over there but they are really leaning into the hot takes side rather than actually news and analysis

    • @SchulzEricT
      @SchulzEricT Місяць тому +2

      I mean... "super team" refers more to celebrity than actual talent, let's be very clear about that.

  • @mastersugar8311
    @mastersugar8311 Місяць тому +3

    No integration no ESPN radio app that everyone has..on the go ESPN still needs provider login? No Venu ..Zac was okay for hardcore fans but in a league full of personalities Zac was a regular guy...hey someone needs to fill that Vescey role on NBC

  • @Jiturra01
    @Jiturra01 Місяць тому +3

    UA-cam Algo finally figured out I never want to hear about/from SAS Perkins or LeBron ever again

  • @SinkMMA
    @SinkMMA Місяць тому +16

    Zach Lowe gets fired but people like Malika Andrews still have a job. They 100% deserve the decline in viewership

  • @bobbyw711
    @bobbyw711 Місяць тому +3

    ESPN is dead! I used to watch it everyday of my life 15 years ago. Haven’t watched that hot take bullshit since.

  • @Jukeboxster
    @Jukeboxster Місяць тому +1

    I never recall anyone in his uploads saying how much they appreciated Zach Lowe. Maybe you all should've shown this type of support when he still had a job.

  • @KnataGuy
    @KnataGuy Місяць тому +8

    Zach Low is the best NBA writer in America but he was only ‘fine’ on tv. The word ‘milquetoast’ comes to mind…

  • @Warrentertainment
    @Warrentertainment Місяць тому

    Can't wait to hear the first official Zach Lowe Ringer Podcast!
    Btw whatever happened to Jackie Macmullan's Ringer Pod? 🤔

  • @johncarlostorres160
    @johncarlostorres160 Місяць тому +56

    Bill Simmons doing a podcast with Woj about Zach Lowe's layoff from ESPN is crazy 😂

    • @minaguta4147
      @minaguta4147 Місяць тому +20

      That's not Woj

    • @chrisschell90
      @chrisschell90 Місяць тому +2

      you think that's Woj????

    • @jambo1349
      @jambo1349 Місяць тому

      @@minaguta4147you don’t say

    • @stackntax1308
      @stackntax1308 Місяць тому +13

      I mean he can be Woj in the Woj Biopic but nah 😭

    • @mikeg5397
      @mikeg5397 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 maybe they are long-lost cousins

  • @javianjohnson8746
    @javianjohnson8746 Місяць тому +1

    ESPN has turned into a hot-take machine. Clearly they don't want people that aren't going to just clickbait their way through the day or with integrity, but someone who'll draw up controversy, and thus, more views.

  • @aaronz.
    @aaronz. Місяць тому +3

    He’s the best, more passionate (yet not hyped) basketball journalist. This is supremely dumb.

  • @Jswann6
    @Jswann6 Місяць тому

    I saw this headline and literally screamed out “What!!? Somebody is trolling”

  • @mgez919
    @mgez919 Місяць тому +3

    We need a weekly, Simmons, Rassilo, Nicholes, Lowe TV show/podcast during the nba season, modeled after the old NBA today show.

  • @DavidBagga
    @DavidBagga Місяць тому +3

    Not sad about Zach Lowe because that means places like the ringer and the athletic are just gonna get better if he goes to one of them. He’s great to listen to so someone’s getting a gem. My money is him joining the ringer. Him and Simmons would be great together (used to be at Grant land too).
    Jeez ESPN is such a joke now 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Місяць тому +1

      If Zach goes to the Ringer, he instantly becomes part of the Big 3 with Bill and Ryen.

  • @wiIdcattm
    @wiIdcattm Місяць тому +3

    Even Knicks fan don't want the loudness SAS brings.

  • @mrfathed3129
    @mrfathed3129 Місяць тому +2

    I stopped watching ESPN a while ago. The problem is that all the NBA youtubers spend too much time reacting to the ESPN hottakes, so I still can't escape it.

  • @VinegarAndSaltedFries
    @VinegarAndSaltedFries Місяць тому +3

    He was def one of Woj’s guys. And they certainly pushed Woj out. This is a power struggle not a strategy.

  • @Tyrantula1
    @Tyrantula1 Місяць тому +1

    Bro, ESPN lost it’s soul almost 20 years ago now.

  • @desertedham37
    @desertedham37 Місяць тому +21

    ESPN is so cooked

    • @Atribecalledsuccess
      @Atribecalledsuccess Місяць тому +3

      Nobody ever went to espn to see what Zach said

    • @desertedham37
      @desertedham37 Місяць тому +1

      @@Atribecalledsuccess I must be nobody then

    • @sardonicus76
      @sardonicus76 Місяць тому +1

      They are beyond cooked. That pop-up timer popped a looooong time ago. The only reason I even bother to watch these days is for live events and most of the time, I mute all the BSPN commentary/play-by-play and listen to live feeds from people who actually know and care about sports.

    • @Atribecalledsuccess
      @Atribecalledsuccess Місяць тому +2

      @@desertedham37 correct

    • @Atribecalledsuccess
      @Atribecalledsuccess Місяць тому +2

      @@desertedham37 they’re losing sleep over your one view

  • @soysaucehairdye7869
    @soysaucehairdye7869 Місяць тому +2

    ESPN Plus is decent for the three Grand Slams and some Spanish and German soccer games, but that's about it currently. I didn't like how they got rid of their best announcing booth for NBA games and got rid of their only semi-enjoyable show in Jalen and Jacoby.

  • @cptsketch13
    @cptsketch13 Місяць тому +10

    They don't want educated opinions, they want loud opinionated people who do what they are told. Zach cares about basketball too much to do that's first take type media

    • @vlada
      @vlada Місяць тому

      And here comes Gil...

  • @jingqi9106
    @jingqi9106 Місяць тому +1

    It's hard to believe ESPN fired Zach Lowe and kept Kendrick Perkins. 💯

  • @javibelcebu
    @javibelcebu Місяць тому +4

    It might be hard, but i believe in Bill. He'll find a way to name the celtics/tatum in a espn personel convo

  • @ConnorGoodwin-o7d
    @ConnorGoodwin-o7d Місяць тому +1

    9:37 mark Bill is spot on. That’s exactly the direction ESPN is going towards with these layoffs and it’s a joke.

  • @blablablaa14
    @blablablaa14 Місяць тому +5

    You know how much I cared about listening to the Zach Lowe Podcast?? Now what am I going to listen to? Are we cutting the Hoop Collective soon? What is going on

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd Місяць тому +1

      Hoop Collective is my only remaining ESPN program and honestly it's starting to feel at times like it's run its course. Bontemps is insufferable and some of their gags are played out. Windy is getting really high on the horse.

  • @RavensNBA
    @RavensNBA Місяць тому

    Please Bill hire Zach to the Ringer. Your show’s together are the best thing ever!