I had a jazz musician once tell me, "If you play something wrong, go back to it a couple of times and it'll sound like you did it on purpose." 😂 And he was so right!
That's actually exactly how you start learning to improvise! By having fun with songs you already know! (but yeah, the chords are, sadly, quite necessary)
@@chellierhapsody2197, chords have to be learned in a hierarchy. Beginning from major triads, then minor triads, before learning seventh chords. It takes a bit of memorization. And no, this is not the way to start learning to improvise. It is a misconception that so many people have about what exactly improvisation is.
@@chellierhapsody2197, Improvisation is basically instantaneous composition. Which means that people who are naturally good composers tend to be able to do it with less effort. For those who are not natural composers, you will have to learn the basic rules of composing melodies and harmonies in the style you looking to improvise in (Jazz, blues, rock, classical composer styles, pop etc). Once you learn these rules, then you take little melodic and harmonic ideas and work on being able play them until they become second nature to you. This is the part where most people give up. But it is the most crucial part. Once the rule based ideas are second nature, you will be able to compose new ideas based on already established rules and already memorised material on the spot. And then it will look like you were just having fun and the notes just put themselves together magically.
@@chellierhapsody2197 Here's a few things to have fun while you're learning the rules : take a song you already know, and play with it. Add a few notes here, change the tempo there, repeat a few notes, change a few other. The main basic rule is just to identify the key of the song, and only use the corresponding notes (on a piano, you can put sticky notes or something on the keys to make sure you don't mix them up). Of course there are exceptions, but that's a good beginning. And then you have fun with those notes. As you practice, you'll get farther and farther away from the original piece. Of course you'll have to learn the chords at some point, and the rules of the genre you want to be playing, but in the meantime, it's always important to have fun while learning.
I've always sucked at sight-reading, and was confused why it seemed to come so naturally to everyone else in my band classes. And although I don't play jazz, a couple years ago I started doing improv and it's worked out pretty well.
Honestly when I learned the trumpet I just learned the fingers on the scale and put them to my sheet music and I'm good, I play cello as well and learned trumpet on the way
Cellist here classically trained. 😂😅 Oof this is so accurate. Jazz loves to take notes and bend them thus you get "wrong note right time" 😅😂 and I still have no idea how to do Jazz. 😂
My teacher always says listening is the key! And learning what scales work over what chords/chord progressions are good too! The blues scale (1, b3, 4, #4, 5, b7 of the major scale) is very easily used over a blues progression. Mixolydian (flatten the 7th note of major) can be used over dominant chords. Dorian (flatten 3 and 7 of major) can be used over minor 7th chords. I've only been improvising in jazz for a little over a year, and I absolutely love it! My high school offers a jazz studies course, and it's really pushed me to listen, play, and love jazz! If you wanna find just a simple backing track of youtube and play around with it, you can try soloing over it! A good place to start might be C blues (I don't play string instruments, I play woodwind, so I'm not sure what key would be easiest for cello). If you want a realitively easy song to start off with, Blue Monk by Miles Davis is the first song I learned and soloed on. I realized after writing this whole explainion I got a little more detailed than was probably necessary. However, it's still useful if people want to try!
It's really not "wrong note at the right time" you're conceptualizing it wrong, as classical players learning Jazz are prone to doing (I was educated classically first).
Idk when i play jazz I think of playing "x figure" and "y context" and what is defined by wrong, may be an odd combintion of figure and context? like u can definitely playing some Emaj phrasing or voicing over a Bflat7 chord going to Aflat maj and it is not even that complex of a concept but there are music genres where I would just play a standard Bb7
As a trumpeter that improvises a lot I’m curious if you do play jazz? There’s always so much to learn and get better at though…Also I think your channel is great and I’m a huge fan.
As a classical musician, jazz musicians are so awe-inspiring. I attempting jazz lab at my university for a semester, and I cheated through my two solos by writing something down. The other fantastic musicians I played with would close their eyes and play complex rhythms, easily change with the funky chords, reference well known jazz standards. My brain is still working on playing music that is already on the page, so I can't even understand how they get to the level of making shit up on the fly
Meanwhile I'm in the opposite situation, wondering how people can just look at a paper and play what's on it. When I was in school band classes I would have to spend entire class periods just writing notes under every single note in a piece of sheet music to make it easier for me to learn the piece. But I don't have much issue just making stuff up.
I started playing the Piano two years ago, had to stop after a year. This year I was able to start again in school, and we have a band there. I thought: ,,Hm, what do I have to lose?" So I signed up for it. First lesson, the teacher told me to improvise and I sat there, looking at the Piano, trying to figure out what I was supposed to do 😂
As a pianist, I love spicing up everything in my repertoire (not much bc I'm 16 and havent been playing for long haha) by adding swing to it to give it a jazzy feel.
@@rmt3589 Jazz is a beautiful form of music so it's cool to see someone else interested! I think some of the key elements to jazz would be the swing and you improvise with the timing of the songs. So rather than singing on the tempo, you may sort of delay it, or play it too soon. Of course you still want it to sound nice and not all over the place. Hope I helped a bit!
this is exactly what learning to play the drums is like. not the same instrument i know but the point still stands. the idea is just play anything as long as you play it at the right time and make it back to 1, you’re doing great.
Playing wrong notes at the right time is only half the battle because they can still be wrong notes. It's the choices the player makes after the wrong notes that transforms them into a great idea or digs the clam even deeper. Miles was a grand master at this.
what she played is actually a jazz version of rondo alla turca arranged by Fazil Say. just wanted to point that out - and give credit to this him also.
This is actually almost exactly what it was like when I tried to take jazz piano. The teacher was an older man who had had a lot of success as a jazz pianist and had played with some big names. I was so excited. He put a lead sheet in front of me, acted confused when I asked him to help explain it to me, and then asked me to improvise. When I said I didn't know how to improvise, he said "the rules are that any note can go to any other note, and any chord can go to any other chord". WOW HELPFUL. I felt so frustrated and stupid I didn't continue.
Literally me in jazz rn. Mainly surviving off of the stuff I learned in jazz camp last year, despite having 5yrs of experience, somehow, and all the music theory I have learned over the years! It's so much fun! 😅😅😅
Literally me when my piano teacher tried to get me to try jazz. I was so confused and was asking every week to go back to the classical pieces. Its such an incredible artform
The chord is, for anyone wondering, the notes E(G tripple flat) A(C tripple flat) C(D doubble flat) and D(F tripple flat) Although I'm pretty sure that dominant chords have to include the major third wich is contradicting with the fact that it is also a sus4 chord. Correct me if I'm wrong 🤓☝️
I think I'm actually a jazz musician 4fun, sometimes I love to press random keys and see what'll happen, I'm making absolute masterpieces that way by just improvising
My fantastic teacher, Scott Cossu, taught me (and continues to teach me) how to play jazz, improvise, and just enjoy the piano with or without written music.
Classical pianists trying to learn jazz is one of my favourite things. They play all the right notes but it sounds so weird when they can't swing. Idk why but I love it. More often than not, they get used to it fairly quickly though. If they embrace their jazz demons that is :D
Improvisation in any medium only works if there is some kind of framework by which you (and hopefully your audience) can understand whatever it is that you’re making up. Otherwise it’s random chaos, not directed by an entity. Unless you see Rand ok chaos as being directed by an entity. But that’s theology. Different topic.
"there are no wrong notes if you play them at the right time" THERE ARE NO WORDS MORE TRUE. This took me two years with my jazz professor to even begin to understand this concept as a classically trained musician 😂 i love playing jazz music, but wow does it use a while other side of your brain
My first exposure to “real” jazz was thelonious monk and everything I heard from him seemed so incredibly weird and I just assumed that’s what it meant to be a jazz musician. I later learned that thelonious monk WAS incredibly weird even among jazz musicians and people actually study him and his play style extensively when learning jazz.
Haha, zufälligerweise übe ich zurzeit den türkischen marsch von Mozart XD. ich spiele hauptsächliche klassik und Romantik (bevorzugterweise Robert Schumann). Aber jazzen und eigene lieder komponieren. Dafür benötige ich noch das richtige gehör und die richtige harmonielehre. Ich denke das buch "Funtionelle harmonielehre" ist dabei ganz hilfreich.
I studied jazz in Uni and I find it hilarious when people use terms like “dominant” or mention extensions and it feels like reading one of those English translations of Chinese signs.
Jazz people love their fancy chord names. All they are: the classical music triads with passing notes ....... passing by. "The blues" is just the classical music minor scale, but you wail away on the two flatted tones until you feel the pain of being alive.
Yah, jazz is like freestyling. It's not as random as it first seems if you follow the same artists and their influences. You'll recognize segments and techniques repeated here, a flourish notes there because the action made the proformance look better visually, and regularly falling back into familiar key strokes from muscle memory while they think and feel for what's next in their story.
I had a jazz musician once tell me, "If you play something wrong, go back to it a couple of times and it'll sound like you did it on purpose." 😂 And he was so right!
That sounds so smart tbh, love that 😭
Same is true for improv theatre.
Repetition legitimizes #bass #thelick #neely
Repetition legitimizes
repetition legitimizes
That's actually exactly how you start learning to improvise! By having fun with songs you already know!
(but yeah, the chords are, sadly, quite necessary)
What's the easiest way to learn them? Chords have been soooo intimidating to me in the past. Teach me like I'm 5
@@chellierhapsody2197, chords have to be learned in a hierarchy. Beginning from major triads, then minor triads, before learning seventh chords.
It takes a bit of memorization.
And no, this is not the way to start learning to improvise. It is a misconception that so many people have about what exactly improvisation is.
@pjbpiano wait! How do i learn to improvise?!! I have a small amount of piano background and I am going to buy my own keyboard soon =)
@@chellierhapsody2197, Improvisation is basically instantaneous composition. Which means that people who are naturally good composers tend to be able to do it with less effort.
For those who are not natural composers, you will have to learn the basic rules of composing melodies and harmonies in the style you looking to improvise in (Jazz, blues, rock, classical composer styles, pop etc). Once you learn these rules, then you take little melodic and harmonic ideas and work on being able play them until they become second nature to you. This is the part where most people give up. But it is the most crucial part.
Once the rule based ideas are second nature, you will be able to compose new ideas based on already established rules and already memorised material on the spot. And then it will look like you were just having fun and the notes just put themselves together magically.
@@chellierhapsody2197 Here's a few things to have fun while you're learning the rules : take a song you already know, and play with it. Add a few notes here, change the tempo there, repeat a few notes, change a few other. The main basic rule is just to identify the key of the song, and only use the corresponding notes (on a piano, you can put sticky notes or something on the keys to make sure you don't mix them up). Of course there are exceptions, but that's a good beginning. And then you have fun with those notes. As you practice, you'll get farther and farther away from the original piece.
Of course you'll have to learn the chords at some point, and the rules of the genre you want to be playing, but in the meantime, it's always important to have fun while learning.
"laughs in jazz" 😂
5k likes and no replies? lemme fix that.
Was looking for this comment lol
"😂😂⛷️😂🎉😢😂🚬🚓🤑🤡🥁🥁🥁🔥❤️🔓🎶🤣👺😂😂😂" - The second motif went a little overboard, but it's getting there. Thanks
When you realize you’re not bad at sight reading, you’re just *really good at jazz* 😎
Wow I didn't realise I know so many jazz musicians
@@koruyesliketheplant7939 😂😅
Facts 😂
Thank you lol
I've always sucked at sight-reading, and was confused why it seemed to come so naturally to everyone else in my band classes. And although I don't play jazz, a couple years ago I started doing improv and it's worked out pretty well.
As a cellist that is learning the trumpet, the daily offering to the jazz gods really facinates me
You’ll never know why this comment has 66 likes
Honestly when I learned the trumpet I just learned the fingers on the scale and put them to my sheet music and I'm good, I play cello as well and learned trumpet on the way
I play the trumpet at a high school band, and the rest of my section is literally insane
We spend our time trying to sacrifice the homophobic one
God bless, Merry Christmas!
I'm not learning my Spanish Duolingo!
"We don't have mistakes, just happy accidents"
Sona from League of Legends says that if I'm not mistaken
@@cherrybubble2968 Nope, it's Bob Ross, you uncultured swine
No offense bro jk
@@cherrybubble2968 wasn't it Bob Ross who said that?
@@dhshsh5878 probably he also does
@@cherrybubble2968 close: "A wrong note is just...a happy little accident."
For anyone interested, the jazz part of the song she played is by Fazıl Say named Alla Turka Jazz.
i heard than 15years ago in music class, never could remember the name, thank you !
Was going to write the same :)
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Cellist here classically trained. 😂😅 Oof this is so accurate. Jazz loves to take notes and bend them thus you get "wrong note right time" 😅😂 and I still have no idea how to do Jazz. 😂
My teacher always says listening is the key! And learning what scales work over what chords/chord progressions are good too!
The blues scale (1, b3, 4, #4, 5, b7 of the major scale) is very easily used over a blues progression.
Mixolydian (flatten the 7th note of major) can be used over dominant chords.
Dorian (flatten 3 and 7 of major) can be used over minor 7th chords.
I've only been improvising in jazz for a little over a year, and I absolutely love it! My high school offers a jazz studies course, and it's really pushed me to listen, play, and love jazz! If you wanna find just a simple backing track of youtube and play around with it, you can try soloing over it! A good place to start might be C blues (I don't play string instruments, I play woodwind, so I'm not sure what key would be easiest for cello).
If you want a realitively easy song to start off with, Blue Monk by Miles Davis is the first song I learned and soloed on.
I realized after writing this whole explainion I got a little more detailed than was probably necessary. However, it's still useful if people want to try!
It's really not "wrong note at the right time" you're conceptualizing it wrong, as classical players learning Jazz are prone to doing (I was educated classically first).
Idk when i play jazz I think of playing "x figure" and "y context" and what is defined by wrong, may be an odd combintion of figure and context? like u can definitely playing some Emaj phrasing or voicing over a Bflat7 chord going to Aflat maj and it is not even that complex of a concept but there are music genres where I would just play a standard Bb7
"There are no wrong notes, only wrong decisions."
As a trumpeter that improvises a lot I’m curious if you do play jazz? There’s always so much to learn and get better at though…Also I think your channel is great and I’m a huge fan.
By the way they finished that improv I would guess they do
and you think she's hot?
As a classical musician, jazz musicians are so awe-inspiring. I attempting jazz lab at my university for a semester, and I cheated through my two solos by writing something down. The other fantastic musicians I played with would close their eyes and play complex rhythms, easily change with the funky chords, reference well known jazz standards. My brain is still working on playing music that is already on the page, so I can't even understand how they get to the level of making shit up on the fly
Try with the Blues pentatonic scales and them target jazz from there, mixing with what you already know.
Meanwhile I'm in the opposite situation, wondering how people can just look at a paper and play what's on it. When I was in school band classes I would have to spend entire class periods just writing notes under every single note in a piece of sheet music to make it easier for me to learn the piece. But I don't have much issue just making stuff up.
Ah, the Daniel Thrasher homage with the sunglasses lmao.
This is some physics 💀
I started playing the Piano two years ago, had to stop after a year. This year I was able to start again in school, and we have a band there. I thought: ,,Hm, what do I have to lose?" So I signed up for it. First lesson, the teacher told me to improvise and I sat there, looking at the Piano, trying to figure out what I was supposed to do 😂
As a pianist, I love spicing up everything in my repertoire (not much bc I'm 16 and havent been playing for long haha) by adding swing to it to give it a jazzy feel.
This is priceless. Sheet music is blank page; why would I stop!? Priceless, brilliant.
Literally amazing, first classical and now jazz. Please keep posting jazz videos 🔥❤
This was not Jazz
I'm trying to understand Jazz, and this is helpful.
This isn't really an accrurate depiction or meant to be. This is a caricature, a skit.
@@xthatghomiex2939 Oh. Then, do you have a better suggestion?
@@rmt3589 Jazz is a beautiful form of music so it's cool to see someone else interested! I think some of the key elements to jazz would be the swing and you improvise with the timing of the songs. So rather than singing on the tempo, you may sort of delay it, or play it too soon. Of course you still want it to sound nice and not all over the place. Hope I helped a bit!
@@summertimesara2070 So, it's about the chaotic element inaccurate to the precise grid of the music sheet's timing?
What do you mean "the swing"?
@@rmt3589 swing is a kind of rhythym
this is exactly what learning to play the drums is like. not the same instrument i know but the point still stands. the idea is just play anything as long as you play it at the right time and make it back to 1, you’re doing great.
" you LoW lEvel PEaSant " I can't- 😂💀
🤣😂 like damn, not just a peasant but a low level peasant ☠️
Playing wrong notes at the right time is only half the battle because they can still be wrong notes. It's the choices the player makes after the wrong notes that transforms them into a great idea or digs the clam even deeper. Miles was a grand master at this.
Hello from the guitarist community, we play power chords using only the tonic and the 5th 👍
what she played is actually a jazz version of rondo alla turca arranged by Fazil Say. just wanted to point that out - and give credit to this him also.
This is actually almost exactly what it was like when I tried to take jazz piano. The teacher was an older man who had had a lot of success as a jazz pianist and had played with some big names. I was so excited. He put a lead sheet in front of me, acted confused when I asked him to help explain it to me, and then asked me to improvise. When I said I didn't know how to improvise, he said "the rules are that any note can go to any other note, and any chord can go to any other chord". WOW HELPFUL. I felt so frustrated and stupid I didn't continue.
As a jazz musician i can confirm this is soooo accurate 💀
Literally me in jazz rn.
Mainly surviving off of the stuff I learned in jazz camp last year, despite having 5yrs of experience, somehow, and all the music theory I have learned over the years! It's so much fun! 😅😅😅
Thats the version Yuja Wang plays as an encore, right? I think she's added to it over the years though, it's insane!
as some old person in a really old video that my band teacher showed us said, "it's about the rhythm"
Cory Pesaturo and Nahre Sol have a really good example in 'Chopin + Jazz MASHUP?!!' and 'Is Chopin Jazz?!'
lol the glasses at the end 😂
This how pianists feel when they’ve discovered a new cheat code
u got it!! its so addictive xD
Yuja Wang version of Turkish March, 16 May 2015 in Berlin. Absolutly love it ❤️😍😍
Literally me when my piano teacher tried to get me to try jazz. I was so confused and was asking every week to go back to the classical pieces. Its such an incredible artform
This is bringing back so many memories from music school.
tried playing that chord and it sounds really cool actually
Tell me why tf that “there are no wrong notes” reminded me of “there are no wrong answers when it comes to improv” from my acting camp!?
bc its the same skill. timing > content (notes, answers, lines, etc.)
Very Talented❤❤
Please do full version please 😭
The chord is, for anyone wondering, the notes E(G tripple flat) A(C tripple flat) C(D doubble flat) and D(F tripple flat)
Although I'm pretty sure that dominant chords have to include the major third wich is contradicting with the fact that it is also a sus4 chord. Correct me if I'm wrong 🤓☝️
That's fuvking awesome. Unbelievably eye candy for ears.
Me playing Chopin and jazz for my concert this july
I’m a trumpet who kinda recently started jazz. It’s so different, but it’s a lot of fun when you start getting the hang of it
The piece is called " Turkish march " or " Rondo Alla Turca " for anyone interested
Your humor is top-notch.
Love this videos!!!❤❤❤❤😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
This is exactly why I learned to both read sheet music and improvise. That way its easier to smooth over mistakes.
Its crazy how fun improvising is
I think I'm actually a jazz musician 4fun, sometimes I love to press random keys and see what'll happen, I'm making absolute masterpieces that way by just improvising
Your videos are always so fun to watch.
This is absolutely amazing.
Lmao i've been in the exact same situation
"It's easy look do that"
"I don't know the cords"
"It's easy"
Rock n metal guitarist here blues trained. “If it’s heavy, sounds good and on time. We’re good” 💯🔥🤙🏽
Remembering Jacques Loussier. ❤
Ngl that’s pretty much it: improvising
As someone who self-taught for 7 years and THEN took lessons, improvisation is gonna get you far.
These lines are so hilarious along with the things in the **
Anyways WHY DID THAT SOUND SO GOOD, AT THE END???
Because It is the Fazil Say's jazz improvisation of the Turkish March :)
Best roasting of jazz 😂
Sunglasses of Ultimate Jazz appear on her face.
"Why would I stop now, you peasant?!" She roared.
Okay but that long chord name is just an inversion of Am(add11)
*confused chopin look*
i felt that-
I recently got into jazz on drum set and it’s genuinely so much fun!
My fantastic teacher, Scott Cossu, taught me (and continues to teach me) how to play jazz, improvise, and just enjoy the piano with or without written music.
Now I want to hear the rest of that jam for real!
"Okay.. But what if I play a wrong note?" That's called jazz.
It’s like singing. If you let your instrument be your voice, it will carry you~!
😆😅😂🤣... the pillow....
Classical pianists trying to learn jazz is one of my favourite things. They play all the right notes but it sounds so weird when they can't swing. Idk why but I love it.
More often than not, they get used to it fairly quickly though. If they embrace their jazz demons that is :D
“If you ever have to ask what jazz is, you’ll never know.” -Louis Armstrong
I felt that…….give me sheet music with actual notes and I shall playing everything you give. But tell me to improvise or jazz it up and I am lost
That pillow was pure gold😂
Improvisation in any medium only works if there is some kind of framework by which you (and hopefully your audience) can understand whatever it is that you’re making up. Otherwise it’s random chaos, not directed by an entity.
Unless you see Rand ok chaos as being directed by an entity. But that’s theology. Different topic.
Improvisation doesn’t mean random. I know it’s just for giggles but the creator should have done better than reinforce wrong stereotypes.
Delta = x squared + pi I can‘t 😂😂😂
"there are no wrong notes if you play them at the right time" THERE ARE NO WORDS MORE TRUE. This took me two years with my jazz professor to even begin to understand this concept as a classically trained musician 😂 i love playing jazz music, but wow does it use a while other side of your brain
some people can only play with notes, and can not play intuitively or by ear at all. This amazes me
Proceeds to shred dont "blame me" monk style like a maniac
Oh, Fazil Say's version of Mozart's Turkish March. Great.
It's like the time when someone played rickroll as a classical
Let’s make a cord for rush e 😊:
E minor overtune 4 hash triple Caseoh dominant mash lash kash stash with steak butter with sus6 alignment
I'm a saxophonist...LET ME DO MY JAAAAAAZZZ
❤this is mesmerising
For who don't know this is the
'rondo alla turca jazz fazil say' version
Funny skit! And you look so pretty ❤❤❤❤
You earned my sub
My first exposure to “real” jazz was thelonious monk and everything I heard from him seemed so incredibly weird and I just assumed that’s what it meant to be a jazz musician. I later learned that thelonious monk WAS incredibly weird even among jazz musicians and people actually study him and his play style extensively when learning jazz.
"Oscar Peterson face palming" 😂😂
Oscar face palming is funny af
UA-cam only recommend you to us recently, what a bummer, please make new content! I love it!
"boogie" haha xD
It's a jaaaazzzz baby!!!!🎺🎺🎺😎😎😎
That piano piece at the and is Fazil Say's "Alla Turca Jazz".
°gets summoned by jazz demons° LOL
"thats jazz baby" avg enjoyer
That's so real, to the drum its same : hit what you want but at the right timing
"confused Chopin look" 😂
Haha, zufälligerweise übe ich zurzeit den türkischen marsch von Mozart XD. ich spiele hauptsächliche klassik und Romantik (bevorzugterweise Robert Schumann). Aber jazzen und eigene lieder komponieren. Dafür benötige ich noch das richtige gehör und die richtige harmonielehre. Ich denke das buch "Funtionelle harmonielehre" ist dabei ganz hilfreich.
lol, the rapid transformation from an apologetic deer-in-headlights to gangsta. great acting.
I actually love this jazz version of Elise
Yeah go girl 😎🙌
I studied jazz in Uni and I find it hilarious when people use terms like “dominant” or mention extensions and it feels like reading one of those English translations of Chinese signs.
I remember one time I had to play a Steve with a sharp Geronimo with half Ruth’s it was crazy
Jazz people love their fancy chord names. All they are: the classical music triads with passing notes ....... passing by. "The blues" is just the classical music minor scale, but you wail away on the two flatted tones until you feel the pain of being alive.
Yah, jazz is like freestyling. It's not as random as it first seems if you follow the same artists and their influences. You'll recognize segments and techniques repeated here, a flourish notes there because the action made the proformance look better visually, and regularly falling back into familiar key strokes from muscle memory while they think and feel for what's next in their story.