I had a jazz musician once tell me, "If you play something wrong, go back to it a couple of times and it'll sound like you did it on purpose." 😂 And he was so right!
That's actually exactly how you start learning to improvise! By having fun with songs you already know! (but yeah, the chords are, sadly, quite necessary)
@@chellierhapsody2197, chords have to be learned in a hierarchy. Beginning from major triads, then minor triads, before learning seventh chords. It takes a bit of memorization. And no, this is not the way to start learning to improvise. It is a misconception that so many people have about what exactly improvisation is.
@@chellierhapsody2197, Improvisation is basically instantaneous composition. Which means that people who are naturally good composers tend to be able to do it with less effort. For those who are not natural composers, you will have to learn the basic rules of composing melodies and harmonies in the style you looking to improvise in (Jazz, blues, rock, classical composer styles, pop etc). Once you learn these rules, then you take little melodic and harmonic ideas and work on being able play them until they become second nature to you. This is the part where most people give up. But it is the most crucial part. Once the rule based ideas are second nature, you will be able to compose new ideas based on already established rules and already memorised material on the spot. And then it will look like you were just having fun and the notes just put themselves together magically.
@@chellierhapsody2197 Here's a few things to have fun while you're learning the rules : take a song you already know, and play with it. Add a few notes here, change the tempo there, repeat a few notes, change a few other. The main basic rule is just to identify the key of the song, and only use the corresponding notes (on a piano, you can put sticky notes or something on the keys to make sure you don't mix them up). Of course there are exceptions, but that's a good beginning. And then you have fun with those notes. As you practice, you'll get farther and farther away from the original piece. Of course you'll have to learn the chords at some point, and the rules of the genre you want to be playing, but in the meantime, it's always important to have fun while learning.
I've always sucked at sight-reading, and was confused why it seemed to come so naturally to everyone else in my band classes. And although I don't play jazz, a couple years ago I started doing improv and it's worked out pretty well.
Honestly when I learned the trumpet I just learned the fingers on the scale and put them to my sheet music and I'm good, I play cello as well and learned trumpet on the way
Cellist here classically trained. 😂😅 Oof this is so accurate. Jazz loves to take notes and bend them thus you get "wrong note right time" 😅😂 and I still have no idea how to do Jazz. 😂
My teacher always says listening is the key! And learning what scales work over what chords/chord progressions are good too! The blues scale (1, b3, 4, #4, 5, b7 of the major scale) is very easily used over a blues progression. Mixolydian (flatten the 7th note of major) can be used over dominant chords. Dorian (flatten 3 and 7 of major) can be used over minor 7th chords. I've only been improvising in jazz for a little over a year, and I absolutely love it! My high school offers a jazz studies course, and it's really pushed me to listen, play, and love jazz! If you wanna find just a simple backing track of youtube and play around with it, you can try soloing over it! A good place to start might be C blues (I don't play string instruments, I play woodwind, so I'm not sure what key would be easiest for cello). If you want a realitively easy song to start off with, Blue Monk by Miles Davis is the first song I learned and soloed on. I realized after writing this whole explainion I got a little more detailed than was probably necessary. However, it's still useful if people want to try!
It's really not "wrong note at the right time" you're conceptualizing it wrong, as classical players learning Jazz are prone to doing (I was educated classically first).
Idk when i play jazz I think of playing "x figure" and "y context" and what is defined by wrong, may be an odd combintion of figure and context? like u can definitely playing some Emaj phrasing or voicing over a Bflat7 chord going to Aflat maj and it is not even that complex of a concept but there are music genres where I would just play a standard Bb7
As a trumpeter that improvises a lot I’m curious if you do play jazz? There’s always so much to learn and get better at though…Also I think your channel is great and I’m a huge fan.
As a classical musician, jazz musicians are so awe-inspiring. I attempting jazz lab at my university for a semester, and I cheated through my two solos by writing something down. The other fantastic musicians I played with would close their eyes and play complex rhythms, easily change with the funky chords, reference well known jazz standards. My brain is still working on playing music that is already on the page, so I can't even understand how they get to the level of making shit up on the fly
Meanwhile I'm in the opposite situation, wondering how people can just look at a paper and play what's on it. When I was in school band classes I would have to spend entire class periods just writing notes under every single note in a piece of sheet music to make it easier for me to learn the piece. But I don't have much issue just making stuff up.
I started playing the Piano two years ago, had to stop after a year. This year I was able to start again in school, and we have a band there. I thought: ,,Hm, what do I have to lose?" So I signed up for it. First lesson, the teacher told me to improvise and I sat there, looking at the Piano, trying to figure out what I was supposed to do 😂
As a pianist, I love spicing up everything in my repertoire (not much bc I'm 16 and havent been playing for long haha) by adding swing to it to give it a jazzy feel.
@@rmt3589 Jazz is a beautiful form of music so it's cool to see someone else interested! I think some of the key elements to jazz would be the swing and you improvise with the timing of the songs. So rather than singing on the tempo, you may sort of delay it, or play it too soon. Of course you still want it to sound nice and not all over the place. Hope I helped a bit!
what she played is actually a jazz version of rondo alla turca arranged by Fazil Say. just wanted to point that out - and give credit to this him also.
this is exactly what learning to play the drums is like. not the same instrument i know but the point still stands. the idea is just play anything as long as you play it at the right time and make it back to 1, you’re doing great.
Playing wrong notes at the right time is only half the battle because they can still be wrong notes. It's the choices the player makes after the wrong notes that transforms them into a great idea or digs the clam even deeper. Miles was a grand master at this.
This is actually almost exactly what it was like when I tried to take jazz piano. The teacher was an older man who had had a lot of success as a jazz pianist and had played with some big names. I was so excited. He put a lead sheet in front of me, acted confused when I asked him to help explain it to me, and then asked me to improvise. When I said I didn't know how to improvise, he said "the rules are that any note can go to any other note, and any chord can go to any other chord". WOW HELPFUL. I felt so frustrated and stupid I didn't continue.
Literally me in jazz rn. Mainly surviving off of the stuff I learned in jazz camp last year, despite having 5yrs of experience, somehow, and all the music theory I have learned over the years! It's so much fun! 😅😅😅
The chord is, for anyone wondering, the notes E(G tripple flat) A(C tripple flat) C(D doubble flat) and D(F tripple flat) Although I'm pretty sure that dominant chords have to include the major third wich is contradicting with the fact that it is also a sus4 chord. Correct me if I'm wrong 🤓☝️
Literally me when my piano teacher tried to get me to try jazz. I was so confused and was asking every week to go back to the classical pieces. Its such an incredible artform
I think I'm actually a jazz musician 4fun, sometimes I love to press random keys and see what'll happen, I'm making absolute masterpieces that way by just improvising
My fantastic teacher, Scott Cossu, taught me (and continues to teach me) how to play jazz, improvise, and just enjoy the piano with or without written music.
"there are no wrong notes if you play them at the right time" THERE ARE NO WORDS MORE TRUE. This took me two years with my jazz professor to even begin to understand this concept as a classically trained musician 😂 i love playing jazz music, but wow does it use a while other side of your brain
Improvisation in any medium only works if there is some kind of framework by which you (and hopefully your audience) can understand whatever it is that you’re making up. Otherwise it’s random chaos, not directed by an entity. Unless you see Rand ok chaos as being directed by an entity. But that’s theology. Different topic.
Classical pianists trying to learn jazz is one of my favourite things. They play all the right notes but it sounds so weird when they can't swing. Idk why but I love it. More often than not, they get used to it fairly quickly though. If they embrace their jazz demons that is :D
As a trumpet player and a former piano player, i can confirm this is what i felt like when i started trumpet Also we did this when we had a new person in trumpet😂 they cried because they were playing the wrong notes and the right time and the right notes at the wrong time😂😂😂😂
Jazz people love their fancy chord names. All they are: the classical music triads with passing notes ....... passing by. "The blues" is just the classical music minor scale, but you wail away on the two flatted tones until you feel the pain of being alive.
I am a classical cellist. I joined jazz with the intention of playing double bass. They let me play cello instead because the double bass wasnt ready. Confusion is a word that comes to mind.
I had a jazz musician once tell me, "If you play something wrong, go back to it a couple of times and it'll sound like you did it on purpose." 😂 And he was so right!
That sounds so smart tbh, love that 😭
Same is true for improv theatre.
Repetition legitimizes #bass #thelick #neely
Repetition legitimizes
repetition legitimizes
That's actually exactly how you start learning to improvise! By having fun with songs you already know!
(but yeah, the chords are, sadly, quite necessary)
What's the easiest way to learn them? Chords have been soooo intimidating to me in the past. Teach me like I'm 5
@@chellierhapsody2197, chords have to be learned in a hierarchy. Beginning from major triads, then minor triads, before learning seventh chords.
It takes a bit of memorization.
And no, this is not the way to start learning to improvise. It is a misconception that so many people have about what exactly improvisation is.
@pjbpiano wait! How do i learn to improvise?!! I have a small amount of piano background and I am going to buy my own keyboard soon =)
@@chellierhapsody2197, Improvisation is basically instantaneous composition. Which means that people who are naturally good composers tend to be able to do it with less effort.
For those who are not natural composers, you will have to learn the basic rules of composing melodies and harmonies in the style you looking to improvise in (Jazz, blues, rock, classical composer styles, pop etc). Once you learn these rules, then you take little melodic and harmonic ideas and work on being able play them until they become second nature to you. This is the part where most people give up. But it is the most crucial part.
Once the rule based ideas are second nature, you will be able to compose new ideas based on already established rules and already memorised material on the spot. And then it will look like you were just having fun and the notes just put themselves together magically.
@@chellierhapsody2197 Here's a few things to have fun while you're learning the rules : take a song you already know, and play with it. Add a few notes here, change the tempo there, repeat a few notes, change a few other. The main basic rule is just to identify the key of the song, and only use the corresponding notes (on a piano, you can put sticky notes or something on the keys to make sure you don't mix them up). Of course there are exceptions, but that's a good beginning. And then you have fun with those notes. As you practice, you'll get farther and farther away from the original piece.
Of course you'll have to learn the chords at some point, and the rules of the genre you want to be playing, but in the meantime, it's always important to have fun while learning.
"laughs in jazz" 😂
5k likes and no replies? lemme fix that.
Was looking for this comment lol
"😂😂⛷️😂🎉😢😂🚬🚓🤑🤡🥁🥁🥁🔥❤️🔓🎶🤣👺😂😂😂" - The second motif went a little overboard, but it's getting there. Thanks
When you realize you’re not bad at sight reading, you’re just *really good at jazz* 😎
Wow I didn't realise I know so many jazz musicians
@@koruyesliketheplant7939 😂😅
Facts 😂
Thank you lol
I've always sucked at sight-reading, and was confused why it seemed to come so naturally to everyone else in my band classes. And although I don't play jazz, a couple years ago I started doing improv and it's worked out pretty well.
As a cellist that is learning the trumpet, the daily offering to the jazz gods really facinates me
You’ll never know why this comment has 66 likes
Honestly when I learned the trumpet I just learned the fingers on the scale and put them to my sheet music and I'm good, I play cello as well and learned trumpet on the way
I play the trumpet at a high school band, and the rest of my section is literally insane
We spend our time trying to sacrifice the homophobic one
God bless, Merry Christmas!
I'm not learning my Spanish Duolingo!
"We don't have mistakes, just happy accidents"
Sona from League of Legends says that if I'm not mistaken
@@cherrybubble2968 Nope, it's Bob Ross, you uncultured swine
No offense bro jk
@@cherrybubble2968 wasn't it Bob Ross who said that?
@@dhshsh5878 probably he also does
@@cherrybubble2968 close: "A wrong note is just...a happy little accident."
For anyone interested, the jazz part of the song she played is by Fazıl Say named Alla Turka Jazz.
i heard than 15years ago in music class, never could remember the name, thank you !
Was going to write the same :)
THANK YOU SO MUCH
"There are no wrong notes, only wrong decisions."
Cellist here classically trained. 😂😅 Oof this is so accurate. Jazz loves to take notes and bend them thus you get "wrong note right time" 😅😂 and I still have no idea how to do Jazz. 😂
My teacher always says listening is the key! And learning what scales work over what chords/chord progressions are good too!
The blues scale (1, b3, 4, #4, 5, b7 of the major scale) is very easily used over a blues progression.
Mixolydian (flatten the 7th note of major) can be used over dominant chords.
Dorian (flatten 3 and 7 of major) can be used over minor 7th chords.
I've only been improvising in jazz for a little over a year, and I absolutely love it! My high school offers a jazz studies course, and it's really pushed me to listen, play, and love jazz! If you wanna find just a simple backing track of youtube and play around with it, you can try soloing over it! A good place to start might be C blues (I don't play string instruments, I play woodwind, so I'm not sure what key would be easiest for cello).
If you want a realitively easy song to start off with, Blue Monk by Miles Davis is the first song I learned and soloed on.
I realized after writing this whole explainion I got a little more detailed than was probably necessary. However, it's still useful if people want to try!
It's really not "wrong note at the right time" you're conceptualizing it wrong, as classical players learning Jazz are prone to doing (I was educated classically first).
Idk when i play jazz I think of playing "x figure" and "y context" and what is defined by wrong, may be an odd combintion of figure and context? like u can definitely playing some Emaj phrasing or voicing over a Bflat7 chord going to Aflat maj and it is not even that complex of a concept but there are music genres where I would just play a standard Bb7
As a trumpeter that improvises a lot I’m curious if you do play jazz? There’s always so much to learn and get better at though…Also I think your channel is great and I’m a huge fan.
By the way they finished that improv I would guess they do
and you think she's hot?
As a classical musician, jazz musicians are so awe-inspiring. I attempting jazz lab at my university for a semester, and I cheated through my two solos by writing something down. The other fantastic musicians I played with would close their eyes and play complex rhythms, easily change with the funky chords, reference well known jazz standards. My brain is still working on playing music that is already on the page, so I can't even understand how they get to the level of making shit up on the fly
Try with the Blues pentatonic scales and them target jazz from there, mixing with what you already know.
Meanwhile I'm in the opposite situation, wondering how people can just look at a paper and play what's on it. When I was in school band classes I would have to spend entire class periods just writing notes under every single note in a piece of sheet music to make it easier for me to learn the piece. But I don't have much issue just making stuff up.
Ah, the Daniel Thrasher homage with the sunglasses lmao.
I started playing the Piano two years ago, had to stop after a year. This year I was able to start again in school, and we have a band there. I thought: ,,Hm, what do I have to lose?" So I signed up for it. First lesson, the teacher told me to improvise and I sat there, looking at the Piano, trying to figure out what I was supposed to do 😂
This is some physics 💀
As a pianist, I love spicing up everything in my repertoire (not much bc I'm 16 and havent been playing for long haha) by adding swing to it to give it a jazzy feel.
This is priceless. Sheet music is blank page; why would I stop!? Priceless, brilliant.
I'm trying to understand Jazz, and this is helpful.
This isn't really an accrurate depiction or meant to be. This is a caricature, a skit.
@@xthatghomiex2939 Oh. Then, do you have a better suggestion?
@@rmt3589 Jazz is a beautiful form of music so it's cool to see someone else interested! I think some of the key elements to jazz would be the swing and you improvise with the timing of the songs. So rather than singing on the tempo, you may sort of delay it, or play it too soon. Of course you still want it to sound nice and not all over the place. Hope I helped a bit!
@@summertimesara2070 So, it's about the chaotic element inaccurate to the precise grid of the music sheet's timing?
What do you mean "the swing"?
@@rmt3589 swing is a kind of rhythym
" you LoW lEvel PEaSant " I can't- 😂💀
🤣😂 like damn, not just a peasant but a low level peasant ☠️
what she played is actually a jazz version of rondo alla turca arranged by Fazil Say. just wanted to point that out - and give credit to this him also.
Literally amazing, first classical and now jazz. Please keep posting jazz videos 🔥❤
This was not Jazz
this is exactly what learning to play the drums is like. not the same instrument i know but the point still stands. the idea is just play anything as long as you play it at the right time and make it back to 1, you’re doing great.
Playing wrong notes at the right time is only half the battle because they can still be wrong notes. It's the choices the player makes after the wrong notes that transforms them into a great idea or digs the clam even deeper. Miles was a grand master at this.
Hello from the guitarist community, we play power chords using only the tonic and the 5th 👍
This is actually almost exactly what it was like when I tried to take jazz piano. The teacher was an older man who had had a lot of success as a jazz pianist and had played with some big names. I was so excited. He put a lead sheet in front of me, acted confused when I asked him to help explain it to me, and then asked me to improvise. When I said I didn't know how to improvise, he said "the rules are that any note can go to any other note, and any chord can go to any other chord". WOW HELPFUL. I felt so frustrated and stupid I didn't continue.
As a jazz musician i can confirm this is soooo accurate 💀
Thats the version Yuja Wang plays as an encore, right? I think she's added to it over the years though, it's insane!
Literally me in jazz rn.
Mainly surviving off of the stuff I learned in jazz camp last year, despite having 5yrs of experience, somehow, and all the music theory I have learned over the years! It's so much fun! 😅😅😅
lol the glasses at the end 😂
This how pianists feel when they’ve discovered a new cheat code
Sunglasses of Ultimate Jazz appear on her face.
"Why would I stop now, you peasant?!" She roared.
“If you ever have to ask what jazz is, you’ll never know.” -Louis Armstrong
"Okay.. But what if I play a wrong note?" That's called jazz.
The chord is, for anyone wondering, the notes E(G tripple flat) A(C tripple flat) C(D doubble flat) and D(F tripple flat)
Although I'm pretty sure that dominant chords have to include the major third wich is contradicting with the fact that it is also a sus4 chord. Correct me if I'm wrong 🤓☝️
Ngl that’s pretty much it: improvising
As someone who self-taught for 7 years and THEN took lessons, improvisation is gonna get you far.
as some old person in a really old video that my band teacher showed us said, "it's about the rhythm"
Cory Pesaturo and Nahre Sol have a really good example in 'Chopin + Jazz MASHUP?!!' and 'Is Chopin Jazz?!'
tried playing that chord and it sounds really cool actually
Remembering Jacques Loussier. ❤
Very Talented❤❤
Tell me why tf that “there are no wrong notes” reminded me of “there are no wrong answers when it comes to improv” from my acting camp!?
bc its the same skill. timing > content (notes, answers, lines, etc.)
Okay but that long chord name is just an inversion of Am(add11)
Delta = x squared + pi I can‘t 😂😂😂
Let’s make a cord for rush e 😊:
E minor overtune 4 hash triple Caseoh dominant mash lash kash stash with steak butter with sus6 alignment
Me playing Chopin and jazz for my concert this july
Literally me when my piano teacher tried to get me to try jazz. I was so confused and was asking every week to go back to the classical pieces. Its such an incredible artform
Best roasting of jazz 😂
Please do full version please 😭
*confused chopin look*
i felt that-
Rock n metal guitarist here blues trained. “If it’s heavy, sounds good and on time. We’re good” 💯🔥🤙🏽
This is exactly why I learned to both read sheet music and improvise. That way its easier to smooth over mistakes.
That's fuvking awesome. Unbelievably eye candy for ears.
Lmao i've been in the exact same situation
"It's easy look do that"
"I don't know the cords"
"It's easy"
Yuja Wang version of Turkish March, 16 May 2015 in Berlin. Absolutly love it ❤️😍😍
Your humor is top-notch.
I’m a trumpet who kinda recently started jazz. It’s so different, but it’s a lot of fun when you start getting the hang of it
The piece is called " Turkish march " or " Rondo Alla Turca " for anyone interested
😆😅😂🤣... the pillow....
It’s like singing. If you let your instrument be your voice, it will carry you~!
These lines are so hilarious along with the things in the **
Anyways WHY DID THAT SOUND SO GOOD, AT THE END???
Because It is the Fazil Say's jazz improvisation of the Turkish March :)
I'm a saxophonist...LET ME DO MY JAAAAAAZZZ
u got it!! its so addictive xD
"Oscar Peterson face palming" 😂😂
I think I'm actually a jazz musician 4fun, sometimes I love to press random keys and see what'll happen, I'm making absolute masterpieces that way by just improvising
"boogie" haha xD
As a . . . wise(?😅) faun once said: Jazz is chaos 😂😂😂
My fantastic teacher, Scott Cossu, taught me (and continues to teach me) how to play jazz, improvise, and just enjoy the piano with or without written music.
That pillow was pure gold😂
"there are no wrong notes if you play them at the right time" THERE ARE NO WORDS MORE TRUE. This took me two years with my jazz professor to even begin to understand this concept as a classically trained musician 😂 i love playing jazz music, but wow does it use a while other side of your brain
It's like the time when someone played rickroll as a classical
Improvisation in any medium only works if there is some kind of framework by which you (and hopefully your audience) can understand whatever it is that you’re making up. Otherwise it’s random chaos, not directed by an entity.
Unless you see Rand ok chaos as being directed by an entity. But that’s theology. Different topic.
Improvisation doesn’t mean random. I know it’s just for giggles but the creator should have done better than reinforce wrong stereotypes.
Its crazy how fun improvising is
This is absolutely amazing.
The chords are actually very specific and if you voice them wrong any piano player will hear it instantly lol
in Jazz band in high school, I was told, "If you play a wrong note, you had better play it again"
°gets summoned by jazz demons° LOL
Love this videos!!!❤❤❤❤😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
Proceeds to shred dont "blame me" monk style like a maniac
Classical pianists trying to learn jazz is one of my favourite things. They play all the right notes but it sounds so weird when they can't swing. Idk why but I love it.
More often than not, they get used to it fairly quickly though. If they embrace their jazz demons that is :D
It's a jaaaazzzz baby!!!!🎺🎺🎺😎😎😎
Oscar face palming is funny af
This is bringing back so many memories from music school.
"confused Chopin look" 😂
❤this is mesmerising
some people can only play with notes, and can not play intuitively or by ear at all. This amazes me
I felt that…….give me sheet music with actual notes and I shall playing everything you give. But tell me to improvise or jazz it up and I am lost
"thats jazz baby" avg enjoyer
As a trumpet player and a former piano player, i can confirm this is what i felt like when i started trumpet
Also we did this when we had a new person in trumpet😂 they cried because they were playing the wrong notes and the right time and the right notes at the wrong time😂😂😂😂
the wrong notes at the wrong time can make all the difference in the world
Great fun! Well done!
Now I want to hear the rest of that jam for real!
Your videos are always so fun to watch.
I love the ✨ *SUS* ✨ variant of that chord as well.
Oh, Fazil Say's version of Mozart's Turkish March. Great.
lol, the rapid transformation from an apologetic deer-in-headlights to gangsta. great acting.
Jazz people love their fancy chord names. All they are: the classical music triads with passing notes ....... passing by. "The blues" is just the classical music minor scale, but you wail away on the two flatted tones until you feel the pain of being alive.
I recently got into jazz on drum set and it’s genuinely so much fun!
That's so real, to the drum its same : hit what you want but at the right timing
Guitar jazz chords are criminal
I am a classical cellist. I joined jazz with the intention of playing double bass. They let me play cello instead because the double bass wasnt ready. Confusion is a word that comes to mind.
Me and my guitar when we try to play jazz
This is my biggest problem as a pianist myself
Jazz is elite